1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: This. He is Talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: dot com and the official Dallas Cowboys as Joys No 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Your hosts Mickey's Fagnola, Brian broad Ess, Taylor Stern, and 4 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. Hello, everyone, and welcome into today's edition of 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys, finally at our normal time of eleven thirty 6 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: am Central Time, coming to you live from the SWBC 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: Mortgage Studio, of course, joined by Mickey, Rob, Brian myself. 8 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: We are going to finally really dive into this Rams game. 9 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: But before we do that, I have to know, how 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: are you guys doing? Fantastic? Mickey's wearing some Rams colors 11 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: over there? Is that a fantastic? Yeah? O? Our brothers 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: at one of five three gold do you see this? 13 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: They're wearing blue and green on the other side, Ramsey, 14 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: and and you're wearing the gold Rams over there. And 15 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: what do you got on white? I'm just neutral black 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: and white here the visiting white, visiting white. So, if 17 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: you guys are listening, sorry, but if you watch on 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: connected radio or our app, yeah you see that, because 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: I should all download our connected TV devices. You are 20 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: kind of ramtastic, aren't you? Ramtastic? Yeah, well I just 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: needed a little blue. But I've got that tie to 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: wear today for TV. That's the Michael Irvin approach, you know. 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: He wears on the NFL game day, the opposing opponent Colors. 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: And yesterday we cleared some things up here in the 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: training table. We're lucky to have Michael Irvin around sometimes. 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: And he was he was walking with Mickey and I said, hey, Michael, 27 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: Mickey gave me a hard time today because I said that. 28 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: You know, the other day Todd Griley was giving you 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: a hard time about whooping up on the Cowboys, and 30 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: it goes he was seriously joking. It's like when you say, like, hey, 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: that shirt doesn't look that good. Yeah, just kidding, Yeah, 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: are kidding, just kidding. There's always a little truth in 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: every joke, you know. Is yeah, there's a lot of 34 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: truth in every joke. Well, that's that's pointant. That's a 35 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: that's another quote for Mickey. That will write that down 36 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: in the book of quotes. All right, So Shaun Lee 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: didn't do anything yesterday. Of course, it was just basically 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: a walk through practice and air quotes. He didn't do anything, 39 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: and a lot of people are starting to worry of course, 40 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: with the short week, and if he will be able 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: to play this week, what do you guys think. I 42 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: think they should be worried. I bet he doesn't do 43 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: anything today, yep, and he may not do anything tomorrow, 44 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: and then about ten o'clock on Sunday they'll check and 45 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: see if he can do a lot on Sunday. I 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: just think that they're going to let him rest as 47 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: much as he can. And I think he's the one 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: player who probably can get away with playing a game 49 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: without practicing a whole heck of a lot. So I 50 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: just don't expect him to do much this week. Very 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: similar scheme to what the Redskins have done over the years, 52 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, and Shaun Lee's faced the Sean McVay Redskin attack, 53 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: you know the last couple of seasons. Kind of understand that, hey, 54 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna be about a lot of play action passes, 55 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of big players in the game, 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: and you gotta be ready for all that. So you know, 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm from the approach that usually when guys don't 58 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: practice Friday, they don't play. Yeah, that's you know, you've 59 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: seen me. Mickey likes to make fun of not make fun. 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: He always you're out and I I'm one of those 61 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: guys that you know, but we've we've seen. I mean, 62 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins was a game time guy one time against 63 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: the Colts. But hey, Piot didn't really do much. I 64 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: had to do anything. Well, he he worked out on 65 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: his own out. Yeah, and I just it's one of 66 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: those things with Sean Lee. And you know with the 67 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: hamstring you're going to you're gonna win the battle or 68 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: you want to win the war. You know that that's 69 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta buye week coming up and stuff 70 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: like that. So I mean, you know, do you get 71 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: him ready for Green Bay? Do you feel like and that, Okay, 72 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna win. Well I shouldn't say not win. 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna lose the hamstring battle here, but is it 74 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: gonna help you maybe win that war against Green Bay? 75 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: I've been dealing with those hamstrings. Were you there when 76 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: he talked about it yesterday? It's a little off the 77 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: locker room. I heard secondhand. It wasn't off the record. 78 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: It was off to the side. Yeah, Well, so what 79 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: he said what he said, it wasn't he said it 80 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 1: wasn't as bad as some of the other ones he had, 81 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: but he said, I'll just test it and we'll see. 82 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: So well to Brian's pretty vague about just where he 83 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: was at Brian's point whenever, and they've had some injury 84 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: hamstring issues with guys already this camp. They always say, 85 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: you don't want to turn into a six week injury. 86 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: He is too important to what they do, absolutely, so 87 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: I think if they need to err on the side 88 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: of caution, they will. The interesting thing to Meeta is 89 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: you look at this roster and if Hitchens isn't ready 90 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: to go, which Garrett said as well, if he does 91 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: anything today, he'll be very limited. You got four healthy 92 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: linebackers on your roster right now, so what do you 93 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: do if you don't have either one of them? And 94 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: you know, you've got a fullback who used to play linebackers, 95 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: so there's some things they can do, but you're awfully 96 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: thin at that position. I talked to Anthony Hitchins in 97 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: the locker room yesterday, was off to the side and 98 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: Anthony but on the record, yeah, he's a great guy. 99 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: I really enjoy him and he's very just trying to 100 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: be accurate, that's all. Hey appreciate it. Ramsey anyway, So 101 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins, great guy, he's talking. You know, he's excited 102 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: to get back to practice this week. You know, he 103 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: said that he feels like he will be able to 104 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: do stuff this week, get out there, get more comfortable. 105 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: He obviously didn't know if he was going to be 106 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: able to play. That's really not his decision, right, but 107 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: he was anxious to get out to practice. I mean, 108 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: he looks good. He's been working out every day here, 109 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: even when they've been on the road. You know, he 110 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: said he's just hungry to get back there because he 111 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: was so happy with what was going on in the 112 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: preseason's outstanding, great camp. Yeah, so he's ready to get back. 113 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: The linebacker situation might be really good. We get to 114 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: this Screen Bay game next week. Yeah yeah, wait a 115 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: little longer and it might turn out. Now, this is 116 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: some you have to think about as well. They play 117 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: a lot of Mickey's Dime stuff. You know that that 118 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: Deacon front they play, and you only need two linebackers 119 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: to play that. So if all of a sudden and 120 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: I asked to Cooper cup question today, you know they're 121 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of eleven personnel for the for 122 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: the rams. That's how they attack you. And so it 123 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: might mean let's kay, let's play three down lineman, two 124 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: linebackers and then the rest, you know, defensive backs. You 125 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: feel good about those young guys. Now you got a 126 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: couple of those cats nicked up a little bit, but 127 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: that might be their way of getting around things where 128 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: they can go where they don't have to have but 129 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: four linebackers to dress. The cool thing about this discussion, 130 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: and like you said, you play those subpackas at least 131 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: in base and maybe in some subwork. We're not talking 132 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: about Jalen Smith as like a liability snaps Wise's pencil 133 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: and him in for however many snaps you need me 134 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: to play well. The liability question became asked to Jason 135 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: Garrett today was Justin Durant. Does Justin Durant play enough? 136 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: And he played thirties. I think you looked thirty two 137 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: snaps the other day. That's okay, that's what you're going 138 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: to need Justin Durant to do. So, Yeah, I don't 139 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: Should you be worried about Sean Lee, Yes, absolutely, because 140 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: of what he brings every week to the defense. Other 141 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 1: ways they can work around it. Yes, there are ways 142 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: they can work around it, but you know, we'll see 143 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: how they have to go to that route. Yeah. On 144 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: the more positive note, Jordan lewis pretty much ready to 145 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: go now. A lot of people were worried about his 146 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: hamstring and he wasn't even on the practice report yesterday, 147 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: so it's good to see that, especially with those secondary woes. 148 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: I think that Orlando Scandrick, you know, a couple of 149 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: people were worried when he went out of the game, 150 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: but really that was just yeah thinks, So you know, 151 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: I do feel better about that. Obviously. Cheetos still dealing 152 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: with the hamstring, and Nolan Carroll, you know, still limited 153 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: with the concussion, but they're getting back to a little 154 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: bit of where they wore. I think we find out 155 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: more today. Yeah, because yesterday was a walkthrough. Yeah, good point, 156 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: and you could walk through Hitchens can walk through che 157 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: could walk through, you could walk through it. Luis probably 158 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: could do the whole thing. Very similar what coach was 159 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: describing as an ox stard practice. And I know fans 160 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: that have gone out to ox start and watch practice 161 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: don't get an opportunity to watch the morning practice. So 162 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot of Baseball Caps and shorts 163 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: and T shirts and stuff like that, and you're kind 164 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: of moving around and not not really trying to knock 165 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: balls down, you know, not trying to run your route 166 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: with full speed or anything coming off the line, but 167 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: you know, it was it's moving around, and I think 168 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: there was some positive things with it. Sound like that 169 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: Carroll was limited. It sounded like that you talked about 170 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: it Tay with Hitchens and a Woozier and Mickey's right, 171 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: you're going to know a lot more today of how 172 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna probably go forward here with their practice. Can 173 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: I ask a question real quick and and it's it's 174 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: it pertaining to Nolan Carroll. If Nolan Carroll, does Nolan 175 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: Carroll get his starting spot back from what you've seen 176 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: guys with so far with Jordan Lewis and though with 177 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: with Anthony Brown, you've got a solid starter in Scandrick. 178 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: Is this one of those things where you know Nolan 179 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Carroll is gonna probably be put to the side because 180 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: of better play. I would be awfully hesitant the way 181 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis is playing to all of a sudden cut 182 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: down his snaps, because it seems like so far, the 183 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: more he plays, the better he gets. So yeah, I 184 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: mean I think and this is something you push four 185 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: all camp. Like. The frustrating part with these guys, these 186 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: young guys being hurt was that there wasn't that competition 187 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: that you expected to see, right, So yeah, I think 188 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: guys can continue playing into more snaps. That's what we 189 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: expect from these rookies is to eventually play. And we've 190 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: seeing it was Xavier Woods as well. And I up 191 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: the Annie on the question, go ahead, do you expect 192 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: him to keep his fifty three man spot? That's that's 193 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: and you know what, I appreciate that's going to be 194 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: a question next No, I appreciate you bringing that up. 195 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: I really do. That's a big picture thought right there 196 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: for next week. Wow, Well if you but him or 197 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: Ben Wickery, David David Irving. Yeah, he's he's trying to 198 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: get a defensive tackle on the on the roster that 199 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: could help you, you know with some of that Deacon stuff. 200 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: Put him at nose, let him go, I mean, or 201 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: find it, you know, or I know you got Collins 202 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: in there, but you know, maybe they don't have to 203 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: play as much Deacon and maybe a day more. Nickel. 204 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: When did they sign him ben Wickery was right before 205 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: the season started. They picked him in the final cuts. 206 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: So he and Carroll in the same boat of if 207 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: they wanted to take their guaranteed bass salary right got cut, 208 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: they would get it right. I was thinking he came later. Yeah, 209 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: the thing wouldn't save you any money. Yeah, I'll say this. 210 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: You look around the roster. There's not an easy cut there, 211 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: you know. There there's every guy's either a young guy 212 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: you like, or there's they might have to find a 213 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: linebacker too. If we're thinking, I mean we we talked 214 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: about kind of hinted that things maybe better next week. Yeah, 215 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: but I admire you for saying that, because that's a 216 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: bigger picture thought right there, you know, has no discussion. Yeah, 217 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: as Nolan Carroll done enough. And that's the thing is, 218 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: you know he got hurt unfortunately, bad game okay against 219 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: the Giants, bad game against Denver. Didn't get a chance 220 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: to play this week. You know, he might be healthy 221 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: enough that something. Coaches like those crutches, like the crutch 222 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: and ben Wickery, he was active, but he really didn't 223 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: get but a couple of snaps didn't do it, didn't 224 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: get any They played special teams. Yeah, so because yeah, 225 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: who is who would you rather have? That their their 226 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: choice is going to be who would you rather have 227 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: Ben Wickery or would you rather have Nolan Carroll? And 228 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: obviously with Nolan Carroll being the starter, you know that 229 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: you're thinking, well, you know, that's that's easy. That's easy 230 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: to do. So I don't know, I think it's a 231 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a really when you're looking big picture, 232 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: you think about you know, Garrett likes to talk about 233 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: we think about today, but like the personnel, guys kind 234 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: of think of, Okay, what's going to happen in the future, 235 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: you know. By the way, the Rams now they had 236 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: a regular practice yesterday they did and they had a 237 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: lot out of a bunch of guys. Connor Barwin they're 238 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: starting outside linebackers, but he didn't practice. LaMarcus Joiner had 239 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: a hamstring. Their starting safety, he didn't practice. John Sullivan 240 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: the center with a yep, that's key right there. In practice, 241 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: um Andrew Whitworth took a rest day as well, resting 242 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: Cavan Austin out with a concussion. Yeah, you're getting healthier 243 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: in the secondary though, Webster they're starting corners back to practice. 244 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: He missed the last two games. Yeah, right, and that's 245 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: that's when we were talking about that Robie Coleman. It's 246 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: two names, a hyphenated name, Roman Robie Coleman. He's number 247 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: twenty three. He's been their starter. This team has given 248 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: up a lot of big plays in the secondary. I 249 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: mean they've given up a lot For a team that 250 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: has as good a pass rush as they have, they 251 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: give up some big, big, big play. Well, let's get 252 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: to there. And they actually have less Oh okay, that's 253 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: what I was going to get to. They actually have 254 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: less sacks right now than the Cowboy. Yeah, that's ubsaying 255 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: they do. Yeah, ten to eleven. Okay, So I don't 256 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: start start with you, Mick. We are going to place 257 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: and tell me more, tell you more. What do you 258 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: want me to tell you more about? I got a 259 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: lot to say today, do you. I don't know more 260 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: about the Rams defense if I know enough about Michael Rockers. 261 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: But that's my guy. The nose tackles six five, three 262 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: hundred pounds, was the fourteenth pick in the twenty twelve 263 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: draft out of LSU, by the way, and he's a 264 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: load in the middle. And so everybody wants to talk 265 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: about Donald and the linebackers Quinn um, but this guy 266 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: you got to be able to neutralize him otherwise he 267 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: will mess up your offense. Right now, he's got sixteen tackles, 268 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: thirteen of them are solos. It's got four tackles for 269 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: a loss. And I've ran into a new stat stuffs 270 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: not just stuff, stuff stuff. He've stuffed three runs. I 271 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: guess was without five years about right, so watch out 272 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: for him. Stuffs. I appreciate, Mickey, Travis, Travis Frederick. You 273 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: could have his hands fair and match all line up 274 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: on him. Now. I assume they go to a four 275 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: man line when they go to their their nickel. But 276 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: again then he's in gaps and now you've got a 277 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: problem there you go, this guy. Appreciate that, Mickey, because 278 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: today in matchups, if you go on Dallas Cowboys dot com, 279 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: Michael Brockers and Travis Frederick check it out two hundred 280 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: and fifty words of how and why. So that's you know, 281 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: he's absolutely right. People focus on really on Quinn and 282 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: Donald rightfully so, but Michael Brockers can wreckt your running 283 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: game with that. With his size, he is unusually big 284 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: nose tackle, I mean tall with length and you know 285 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: He's probably better built to play as a defensive tackle, 286 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: which the Rams were very good defense as a four 287 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: three front. But I really, uh, he's going to be 288 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: a handful for Frederick to have to deal with, you know, 289 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: when they have to try and snatch him to get 290 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: that running game going so they can get the ball 291 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: in behind him. Now bull have done it. Yeah right, 292 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: they're they're twenty ninth against the run right now. Right, 293 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: But he's he is a factor. He's a guy Carlott's 294 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: hide pretty easily last week. Yeah, and I mean, granted 295 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: that's a divisional game, but yeah, Brockers is for real. 296 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: He's a guy that Cowboys might have drafted in twenty 297 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: twelve if they hadn't trade up form Claiborne. That's a 298 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: guy they were really look let him or Fletcher Cox. 299 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah too, so many different matter of fact, the Rams, 300 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: Sorry Tay, the Rams. I'm just walking all over you today. 301 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: The Rams drafted him in Dallas's spot, So that just 302 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: tells you, you know what they you know they could 303 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: have got Yeah, sure, yep, and longtime guy, All right, Rob, 304 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: who's your guy? Well, Brian, you stole mine on the 305 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: email chain this morning, so I went with an obvious guy, 306 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: but a guy that is so key to what they 307 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: do defensively. The key is Aaron Donald absolutely left defensive end. 308 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: He's he's moving to a slightly. It's technically he's a 309 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: different position in the three four defense for Wade, but 310 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: he's really so far he's doing the same things. He's 311 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: playing the three technique one gap system. He's shaded over 312 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: the guard and he's get up the field and trying 313 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: to rush the passer. And he's one of the best 314 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: interior linemen in the league, maybe the best at doing it. 315 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: He's got twenty nine sacks in his first three plus 316 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: seasons in the league, taking a few picks before Zack Martin, 317 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: by the way in twenty fourteen, three Pro Bowls, All 318 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: Pro the last two years. Question is is he rounded 319 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: into shape? You know, he missed Week one, he's been 320 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: holding out for a new deal. Played the last two 321 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: games went in a span of four days, and ESPN 322 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: reported he got one hundred and fifteen snaps in those 323 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: two games, So he's getting a lot of work despite 324 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: the fact that he wasn't with the team the entire summer. 325 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: An interesting story. He worked out all off season with 326 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: the same guy that trained him on away from high 327 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: school and then in college, a guy who's a family friend. 328 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: So you know, not your typical pro training in the office, 329 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: and but it's gotten him ready for the season. He 330 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: still looks good. He got a sack last week and 331 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: you wrote about this yesterday. He almost got a pick 332 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers two. Yeah, you know this. 333 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: This is one of those guys to me that Rob 334 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: gave it really good nail of what this player is 335 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: and he's absolutely right. Wade plays that scheme when you 336 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: play three four. He doesn't play a two gaps scheme 337 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: table what we were talking about. When you extend and 338 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: look and look, he is a gap player and go 339 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: and I have a feeling that we're gonna see Wade 340 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: put him over Chaz Green in this game. Yeah, and 341 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: see if Chads Green can handle him one on one. 342 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: That's gonna be. He plays both sides, but you watch 343 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: him playing that three on the outside shoulder of Chaz Green, 344 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: and he is a very disruptive player. Another one of 345 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: those guys like Brockers, that once they get up the field, 346 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: they cause the ball and the block and the blockers 347 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: to have to go sideways and the ball goes back 348 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 1: instead of going towards the line of scrimmage, it goes 349 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: away from the line of scrimmage, and you know he 350 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: can he can cause a lot of problems that way. 351 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: Here's how good Aaron Donald is. When he was at 352 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, even I could tell that guy was special. Yeah, 353 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: it was. He was the best player we saw that year. 354 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: And he's only like six feet tall. He's Leroy Glover. 355 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: He's le Roy Glover to me, he's a He's that 356 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: similar type of a sick And I wanted to ask 357 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: Garrett this question today and Christie Scales kind of got 358 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: into the Aaron Donald question. I wanted to ask him 359 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: because Zack Martin when they evaluated Zack Martin in that draft, 360 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: Zack Martin, like Mickey said, we were at the Senior 361 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: Bowl watching those reps every day, and Zach Martin was 362 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: the only guy that can block him. He's the only guy. 363 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: And it's all of a sudden you're thinking, Wow, we 364 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: really love Aaron Donald. But here's this guard tackle from 365 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Yeah, yeah, we're thinking this looking at this 366 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: tackle of Notre Dame playing guard and he's blocking him 367 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: every single snap. So you're sitting there thinking, Wow, that's 368 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: pretty special right there. But yeah, Aaron Donald, he reminds 369 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: me so much of what le Roy Glover was when 370 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: he played for the Cowboys, that disruptive kind of a player. Hey, well, 371 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: we're going to get to the last two. 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Hey, we've already gotten through two guys of 434 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: our tell me more for the Rams defense, if guys 435 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: you should look out for. But let's get to Brian's guy. 436 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: Who is your guy that we should know more about? 437 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: Mark Barron, the inside linebacker. And we go back to 438 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: that draft with you we talked about with Fletcher Cox 439 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: and Brockers and Clayborn. Mark Barron was selected by the 440 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers right after the Cowboys pick. There was 441 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: a safety at Alabama and really never ever played well 442 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: enough at safety to you know, all of a sudden, 443 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: now there's a position switch and you know he's he's 444 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: put on weight. He's still a little bit of a 445 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: liability in the run. And now if the ball's going 446 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: sideways and he has to go chase that, Mark Baron 447 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: can do that. Mark Baron is one of those guys 448 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: that you know, he's got a little he's got some 449 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: quickness to him, he's got that ability to run. But 450 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: his take on and you've seen offensive lineman when they 451 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: get into him, and I'll be really interested to see 452 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: in this football game because if he's not able to avoid, 453 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: that's where I would take this football. I would run 454 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: it right at Mark Baron. And you know, Alec Ogletree 455 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: is a good linebacker for them as well. He was 456 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: out of Georgia that was taken the year before, and 457 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that to me, I mean, 458 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: I like I like Ogletree. But Baron is the liability. 459 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: And so let's see how he plays in this game. 460 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: The past coverage stuff underneath not a problem. But let's 461 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: see him t having to take on Chaz Green. Let's 462 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: see him having to deal with Travis Frederick. Let's see 463 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: him having to deal with Zach Martin and see if 464 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: he can get off those blocks, because if he can't, 465 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: that's that's your soft spot where you need to run 466 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: the football absolutely. All right, Well, I like what you 467 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: said about him. Look out for Mark Baron and look 468 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: out look out for him in a way that maybe 469 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: take advantage of him. Let's let's pressure it that. Yeah, 470 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: Redskins game, when Redskins put up two hundred and thirty 471 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: yards rushing, was that those inside because out that Tree 472 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: is a he's a converted outside. He's an outside linebacker. Two. 473 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: When you make these switches to schemes sometimes, yeah, I 474 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: mean it's not a perfect fit for every guy. So 475 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: is that kind of the weak spot? Yeah, I the 476 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: liability their defensive line, like you guys have talked about 477 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: with the two players you mentioned, that's that's the strength. 478 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: That's the strength of their group. But you get past 479 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: that first level. In the second level, Ocal Tree can 480 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: make plays, Baron can make plays, but it has to 481 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: be a lateral play. The plays that go at them, 482 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: they tend to have their their problems. So that's that's 483 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: why I wanted to point that out. Giving up one 484 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty nine yards of rushing a game, Like 485 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go say it right now that I said 486 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: the opposite when the cowboy he's played the Broncos, and 487 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: I said, if the Broncos run for one hundred and 488 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: forty yards, Cowboys are getting beat. If the Cowboys run 489 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: for one hundred and forty yards, they win this game. 490 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: This game, Z Gilly. It's the only running back out there. 491 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go with a guy. We've talked 492 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: a lot about the Redskins familiarity with this team. Obviously, 493 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: Sean mcvagh coming from over there, Joe Barry, all those guys. 494 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: But somebody from the Eagles came over to the Rams 495 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: this past offseason and his name's Connor Barwin. Yeah, Connor 496 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: Barwin has played the Cowboys eight times and had a 497 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: lot of success when he goes up against them. He's 498 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: had five sacks and thirty tackles. When he goes up 499 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: against them, he would kind of, you know, get that 500 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: DeLine going if it wasn't Fletcher Cox and everything. Obviously, 501 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: Mickey told you a little bit earlier he had a 502 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: rest date or yesterday because he is an older guy. 503 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: But that familiarity, you know, sometimes breeds that competition. We 504 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: saw Von Miller get hyped and those guys get hyped 505 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: on that. But I just want to tell you guys. 506 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: Connor Barwin is over there. If you guys have heard 507 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: his name, what you have if you've been listening to 508 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: this podcast. So yeah, I'll tell you what. That's good. 509 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: That's good, and that's going to get Lyle Collins. They're 510 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: on that right side. So yeah, good matchup over there. 511 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: Another one of those guys that has quickness, length, all 512 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: the things you described him perfectly, Tay, and you know 513 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: he's a guy you definitely have to account for in 514 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: the running game. He doesn't always play with a strong edge. 515 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: He always doesn't set the edge. But when he gets 516 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: in if it turns into a passing game, watch out 517 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: because he can't attack that corner. No rest for the 518 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: wicket over there for Loye Collins. Now keep rolling. Hey, 519 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: I like what Mickey said about one hundred and thirty 520 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: nine yards rushing, and you know, if the Cowboys do 521 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: get that in this game, they will they will come 522 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: away with a win. So Zegiellett had a bounce back 523 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: game on Monday night. We've just talked about how strong 524 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: this d line is and how these guys can stop 525 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 1: the run and block them. Hey, look away from Brockers. 526 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: That was a lot of blocking and right there. But 527 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: how can a Zigellett continue on pace and hopefully get 528 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: back to the norm of of getting those hundred yard 529 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: games in this game against this strong D line. Well, 530 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: against the D line they've got the cable. Mickey's right though, 531 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: they even up yards, But you know, you gotta still 532 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: you gotta be alert of what's going on over there. 533 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: I think with Elliot though, and I keep asking this, 534 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, and keep wondering this, it's about making those 535 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: guys miss. They can't account for every single guy that 536 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: the Rams or any defense is going to put in 537 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: the box. They just can't do it. And so you know, 538 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: if the Rams are committed, they've got to figure out that, Okay, 539 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: do you want to do you want to give up 540 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: the run to maybe hold up your your secondary Against 541 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: the past, we've seen what Dak Prescott's been able to 542 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: do throwing the football on the move. You know, that's 543 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: that's something that that's been very very especially like the 544 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: Arizona game, that was something We're starting to see those 545 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: plays going down the field. The Rams got to figure 546 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: it out, are we going to commit somebody down and 547 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: we're going to try You know that we talked about 548 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: Baron and him being a little bit of liabilly. Do 549 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: they bring a safety down, do they allow the big plays? 550 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's it's about a little bit 551 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: about Ezekiel Elliott. You know he got a little taste 552 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: of some success last week. Again, get back to making 553 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: those guys miss you know again, they can't account for everybody. 554 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: I keep saying that they can't account for everybody. Here's 555 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: how you account for everybody. First play a game. They 556 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: better go four wide, play action and throw the ball 557 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: forty yards down the field and see if they can 558 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: stop it. Well, you know what makes start loosing it? 559 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: It up? Yeah, to make people back off. Yeah, because 560 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: you can't keep banging your head against the wall. The 561 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: wall's gonna win, right, So they've got to get away 562 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: from handing Zeke the ball on first down to start 563 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: the game. I want to see play action and just 564 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: wing it and I don't care if it's incomplete or not. 565 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: Just plant the seed that we ain't messing around here. 566 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: Well they plant in the scene with Bryce Butler. I 567 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: was just gonna say, Bryce Butler showed him that they 568 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: could do that this week. But also, you notice, guys, 569 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: you didn't name anybody in their secondary when we did 570 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: to tell me more game. And that makes me very 571 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: excited because for the first three weeks there have been 572 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: some big playmakers for the Apoure offences, especially in the secondary, 573 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: and Dez Bryant has had a lot of hard matchups. 574 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: This is the first week that I feel more comfortable, 575 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: especially with him going up against a guy like Truemain Johnson. 576 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: Obviously he's a good guy. You know they put the 577 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: franchise tag on him. But will it be to Dez 578 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: Bryant your first play. I don't care who it's too. 579 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: I just want the ball going down the field to 580 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: set the tone. And I don't want to wait to 581 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: the third quarter to find Bryce Butler down the field 582 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: right off the bat, and I don't care if it's incomplete, 583 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: I don't care. Yeah, just wing it down the field 584 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: and give them something to think about because they they've 585 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: got to loosen up the front. And if you can't 586 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: run through it, then you got to pass over it, 587 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: and you might as well start there. And sometimes you 588 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: got to use the pass to open up the run. 589 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: Go ask Troy Aikman. It happened a lot use the pass. 590 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: It helped the Arizona game. Yeah, dack him off and 591 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: then start handing them. You know they talked about wearing 592 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: him down. Well, okay, maybe they wore him down late 593 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: in the game, but that what they also did is 594 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field and all of a 595 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: sudden Arizones going, oh yeah, maybe we better to vote 596 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: somebody else to be back there and cover those deep passes. 597 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: So Yo, Renny, go after them, Yo, Renny. I like that. 598 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: You didn't you guys don't know who are you? TV 599 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: show was called Rin Tin Tin Ben Tin Tintin. Good one, Mick, 600 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: But can they capitalize on this poor secondary? Not poor secondary, 601 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: but just a week give it? Big play? Yeah? But 602 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: big play? Yeah? I mean you block, you blocked the 603 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: front and you know you don't you keep the pressure 604 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: off them. Yeah, absolutely they can. They've got the ability. 605 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: Mickey's right, they could throw the ball down the field. 606 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: I just don't know if it's in Dallas's DNA, Mickey, 607 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: I just I just don't know if it's in scotland 608 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: Ahan's DNA. Want to they want to run the ball. 609 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: They want to run the ball. And I love what 610 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: you're saying, Mickey, I really do, But I don't want 611 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: to keep running into the wall. Yeah, what about more 612 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: screens and quick outs? Well, you know, anything to you know, 613 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: anything to kind of back them out of there. Yeah, 614 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: but that they I just I just don't see Lenahan 615 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: going that route, Tay, I really don't. I think he's 616 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: I think he's like saying, Okay, we're gonna try and 617 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: run this football, especially on first down. You know, you 618 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: could play with numbers however you want, but this is 619 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: one of those things. One of these times Dallas's offense 620 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: is still seventh in the league when it comes to 621 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, forty six percent of the time they get 622 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: four plus yards on first down. I know it doesn't 623 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: seem like that, but you know, if you look at there, 624 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: if you look at their numbers, that's what it tells 625 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: you that the problem is, Brian, is when they run 626 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: the ball on first down, they're averaging like three three 627 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: and a half yards. Yeah, well yeah, put them in 628 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: second and long. Well, this is this is rushing. This 629 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: is just I'm just saying, Macky, this is just rushing 630 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: for four plus yards on first down. It doesn't seem 631 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: You're right, it seems like they're banging their head against 632 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: the wall. I totally agree with you on that, But 633 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: is it any different than it was last year? I mean, 634 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: this team ran the ball on first down last year 635 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,959 Speaker 1: and ran it effectively. Let me see you this though, 636 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't think they're devoting ten guys in the box here. 637 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean they've had trouble the last two games on 638 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: the road. How many guys you think are in the 639 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: box when they line up to two tight ends, Mickey, 640 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: they're going eight? Can I can I give you? Can 641 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: I give you a little stat here, Mickey, I think 642 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: this is gonna make you smile. They've run against eight 643 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: two thousand, two seventeen play selection on first and ten Ready, 644 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: they've had seventy of them thirty five runs, thirty five passes. 645 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: That puts them eighteenth in the league. They're fifty fifty 646 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: the team that runs the ball more than they pass 647 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: on first down, as Indianapolis Colts at seventy two. The 648 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys are at thirty five runs thirty five passes. They've 649 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: averaged three point nine one on first down runs, like 650 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: Mickey said, and they've averaged six point eight six on 651 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: pass attempts in first down. Okay, so we've got conflicting 652 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: stats because I looked up the first down stuff on 653 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: NFL Jesus and they had thirty six runs averaging three 654 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: point two eight yards and forty four passes averaging six 655 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: point three nine. Yeah. This is from this is from 656 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: stats Inc. This is what the team. This was from 657 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. So anyway, three three point two eight it's 658 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: a lot different than four. Yeah. That means there's a 659 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: lot of less than threes in there to get you 660 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: to three point two eight. So he's gonna fight for 661 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: balance when you're not. When you're not getting something on 662 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: first down, you're struggling because then it's second and long. 663 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: And even even if they're averaging six and a half 664 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: yards passing on first down, that's that's dumping the ball underneath. 665 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: I know you're saying to take a shot, but you're 666 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: also risking an incompletion and being in second and ten 667 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: and then I just want to plant the See. I 668 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: know what you're saying, but I didn't say the whole time. 669 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: I said, okay, first play, right. But you know the 670 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: Denver game, they tried a little. They dip their toes 671 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: trying to run the ball, didn't work, got away from it. 672 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: Then they got behind. Well the first then you have 673 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: no rhythm going in your running. What happened the first 674 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: three plays against Arizona. I have to go back and 675 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: look at it, you know, off the top of my 676 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: head it was. It was a pint out, it was 677 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: incompletion and the a three yard passed to Witton. Yeah, 678 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: they just need to get some traction early. They need 679 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: to get it. You know, this team led the league 680 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: in five minute drives last year and we're I think 681 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: right up there in terms of ten play drives. And 682 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: that's their offense and they've just gotten out of they 683 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: haven't been able to getting sync early in games. That's 684 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 1: because they and then their other problem is they can't 685 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: convert on third down. There. Last year they converted forty 686 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: two percent of their third downs. This year they're at 687 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: thirty four. Yeah, well the last two weeks they've been 688 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: down seven nothing before they knew it too. Yep, you 689 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: know that's been a problem. Absolutely, they have had some 690 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: slow starts that way. Defensively, they just haven't you know, 691 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: they haven't got anybody off the field. You well, win 692 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: the coin toss, Win the coin toss. I like what 693 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: Mickey saying though about, you know, giving him some different 694 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: reads and something that the Cardinals saw last week, and 695 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: that a couple of Cowboys fans have been rooting for 696 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: maybe a couple more than that. But Dak Presscott had 697 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: a rush touchdown, and he's had seven in his career. 698 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: Four have come in primetime games. And when he does that, 699 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: when he has a rush touchdown, the Cowboys are six 700 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: and oh very good. Yeah, oh no, this is a 701 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: noon start. This is a start. So you know, hey, 702 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: maybe what I see though, is that his legs will 703 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: be fresh, You'll be ready to go. So you know, 704 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are now prepping with Dak learning to get 705 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: more comfortable with the run. Right. Maybe you know he 706 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: doesn't see the long pass, Mick, But what do you 707 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: feel about him running on first down? I never don't 708 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: want to start that. Well, I love it in the 709 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: red zone. I love the zone read stuff they do 710 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: there because it takes some of the pressure of Zeke 711 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: and and we saw it last year. They're really effective 712 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: doing it. I'm with Mickey, I don't I don't want 713 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: him being RG three and running around and really risking 714 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: his body when you think certain situations. Absolutely, when you 715 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: think of that, you just think of two plays. The 716 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: tackle he got pretzeled Denver and the dive into the 717 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: end zone when he almost landed on his head. Yeah, 718 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: you don't want a heavy dose of that. You're gonna 719 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: lose your quarterback. Sure, look cool though, he boy, it 720 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: was great. Yeah, fi a lot of that. And Cam 721 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: Newton lilipped right over him, didn't he? Yeah. I mean, 722 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: but what I'm saying is that Dak is a good 723 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: rusher himself, and hey, hopefully if they get one hundred 724 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: and thirty nine yards plus, he's part of that. It's 725 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: certainly an element they have to account for. And and 726 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: this is is Brian point. I mean, this is a 727 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: run defense. This is it's funny. And we're gonna talk 728 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: with the Rams offense tomorrow. That's been the strongest part 729 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: of this that has been the best part of their team. 730 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: And Wade is an unbelievable defensive coordinator. But they haven't 731 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if they've quite figured it out yet. 732 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: So what have they done wrong? I mean, they gave 733 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: up thirty nine points to San Francisco. Yeah, it was 734 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: a twenty seven to Washington. That what's been wrong? It's 735 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: been the big place they are. They're one of the 736 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: worst in the secondary when it comes to giving up 737 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: big plays. They they their offense is one of the 738 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: best when it comes to big places, especially on first down. 739 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: But when they get when they get in, when they 740 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: get in like long yardage situations, or they can't handle it, yeah, 741 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: they give up place. They're one of the worst tackling 742 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,479 Speaker 1: teams after catch in the league. Actually there their thirty 743 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: second in the league. Run after catch. They give up 744 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: more yards than anybody else in the league. That's that's 745 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: troubling right there. You throw a ball to somebody, all 746 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: of a sudden's a seven yard game turns into a 747 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: thirty seven yard game. Yeah, that's that's that's that's bad 748 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: defense right there, big time. Now, a guy that has 749 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: been active for the past two weeks, Noah Brown, we 750 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: saw a little bit of last week. What can he 751 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: really do in this game at all? How can Noah 752 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: Brown contribute to the Cowboys offense this week? I think 753 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: they like to use Noah Brown in their running situations. 754 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: The crack toss, we saw the ball go on the outside. 755 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: They liked the big body coming inside. It's a bigger 756 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: body than what you normally see with Terrence Williams. Now, 757 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: what they've got to do is they throw him a 758 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: ball the other day, which is good. Get him in 759 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 1: a route you know they're gonna they were gonna try 760 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: and throw the ball to Terrence Williams underneath, and that 761 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: the linebackers drove on him and it allowed it allowed 762 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: Noah to go over the top. They had two level 763 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: read and so Dakt was able to hit him. You've 764 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: got to find ways to throw the ball to him 765 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: if you can, because you don't want it to be 766 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: one of those tendencies where all of a sudden, Noah 767 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: Brown's coming in the game and you're running crack toss, 768 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: crack toss, crack toss. Devin Street was here. When Street 769 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: came into the game, you knew they were running. Yeah, 770 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: same thing with Dwayne Harris. Yeah exactly. I mean big, 771 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: but sometimes coaches are very cavalier and they say, you 772 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: know what, We'll put him in there and we're gonna 773 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 1: run the ball and we don't care with Noah though 774 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: he is a big body guy. He can get the edge, 775 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, but make sure, like they did the other day, 776 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: throw him a pass. That was a huge play in 777 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: the game. It was a huge play in the game. 778 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: Set up the touchdown, but yeah, absolutely helps. Definitely. 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Visit Cowboys 813 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: Travel dot com to look your travel package today. This 814 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: is talking Cowboys once again. We know all about that 815 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: Papa John's pizza. The reason it tastes so great those 816 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: ingredients freshhold, never frozen pepperoni orkin b U s d 817 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: A approve and with pizza ingredients like that, you can't 818 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: miss on your piece. You have a senior moment there, Yes, 819 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I was ahead of remembering it. I 820 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: have the same problem with players. Your liner right there? 821 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 1: Oh like reading, he's got the want you to start 822 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: memorizing all eight of those. I'll nestle and I may 823 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: come up with my pouch soon. So before the break, 824 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: we heard that Mickey did vote in today's poll. So 825 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: I'm anxious to see if he got right with the 826 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: face or if I remembered who I voted for exactly. Well, 827 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: tell us, Mick, which RAMS player are you most concerned 828 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: with in this matchup? Aaron Donald, Jared Off, Todd Gurley 829 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: or Robert Quinn another pass rusher for the Rams. I 830 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: believe I voted for Todd Gurley. M hmmm. Anybody got 831 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: to vote, I would say Todd Gurley, Odd Gurley, I've 832 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: voted for Golf. Wow, nobody's got Donald. The fans forty 833 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: nine percent say Aaron Donald and Donald the biggest concern, 834 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 1: followed by Gurley Golf at nine percent. Yeah, oh nine percent, 835 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn only four percent. Wow. I think because Robert 836 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: Quinn will be going against Tyrant Smith. That's a pretty 837 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: favorable matchup for you right there. It's interesting to me 838 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: with about with golf and what they've able with McVay 839 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: has been able to do with him. You gotta get 840 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: him off off sequence though he's inside the thirty yard line. 841 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: He's been incredible. He hasn't missed inside. They get it. 842 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: They convert a lot of third downs inside the thirty. 843 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: They they finish a lot of drives. Yeah, that's why 844 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: they That's why they score. Their scoring has been so 845 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: good is because the fact that golf has taken advantage 846 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: of the receivers they got Watkins, Woods, Cooper Cup. These 847 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: guys make plays for him and Gurley they throw the 848 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: ball to him in the flat and he makes a play. 849 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 1: You know, you got to find a way to disrupt 850 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: him a little bit. I'm worried about him, especially if 851 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: they if they get into a situation like we had 852 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: early in the game against Arizona where free access and 853 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: routes and no real rush and here we go just 854 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: kind of players you go. Jared Goff has one hundred 855 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: and forty three quarterback rating when thrown into type windows 856 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: one yard or tighter open for him. So, hey, you're 857 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: right what you're saying. Yeah, they's made some place. Would 858 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: you vote for I didn't vote Mack. I just make 859 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: the poll vote. You don't vote for your own pole 860 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: master master you ever vote? You never do sometimes that's 861 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: what I mean, bias. I think that's a fair you know, 862 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: I want to just want to see very fair. I've 863 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: vot it forgot with nine percent. That's terrible. Hey can 864 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: you vote? I may say it's a pretty good poll. 865 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: It's a pretty good poll because this team has a 866 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: lot of talent the ball. You think you got a 867 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: key on this guy. They may have to get girly 868 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: conscious they're in trouble. Yeah, okay, well we're not in 869 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: trouble because we have a color on the line. Nebbi 870 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: is on the line, nebe what's your question? Uh uh 871 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: uh hi, everyone listen. I know the Rams have a 872 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 1: high powered um offense, so so so quite honestly, uh 873 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: uh uh uh uh uh. In order to beat the Rams, uhh, 874 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: we have to uh uh uh uh. We have to 875 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: make our big plays in the passing game. Uh I 876 00:43:55,120 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: could I convert on third down? Make sure that we 877 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: get off the field on third down and limit the 878 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: number a big place we give up, take care of 879 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: Thanks for being patient with me, and have a great 880 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: weekend and a great week bye. Thanks to Herrifemian nab 881 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: Where you've been, Yeah, I bet he's been listening. Can't 882 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: get through Yeah, hey, Nebbi knows. Okay, Yeah, there's a 883 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 1: recipe for Victor here. Yeah, he's He's right, though, you 884 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: gotta get out. You can't take advantage of the rams. 885 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: They're big place, get take advantage of their defense like that, 886 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: but in limit limit what they do. And we just 887 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: talked about golf and Woods and Watkins and and Gurley. 888 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: He's absolutely right. You can not let those guys get 889 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 1: rolling in this football game. Well, I like what Nebbie 890 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: said about converting on third down. We know we just 891 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: talked about that a little bit of struggle at exhaust. 892 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: But it's just it's so unlike this Cowboys offense and 893 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: with all the parts there. I think people are getting frustrated. 894 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: Why that is, They're they're in way more. I need 895 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: to go look at it. But they've got to be 896 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: in more way more third and ten third and long 897 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: than they were last year. For sure. It comes down 898 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: we've talked about it down do that better. They'll be 899 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: in much more run or pass. But winning on first 900 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: down there, that's what you need to find. Went went 901 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: on first down? Run or pass? They've been in too 902 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: many third and six or longer. Yeah, and they're not 903 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: converting very many of those. Absolutely not. Hey, I know 904 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 1: we talk about staffs and we haven't really got to 905 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 1: the NFC's because right now the Cowboys are pretty much 906 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: up at the top with the Eagles. But you know, yeah, 907 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: Washington one, Yeah, yeah, Yeah, everybody's at the top. Everyone's 908 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: Giants exactly all has currently with statistically showing the Giants 909 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: have the worst rushing offense and the worst rushing defense 910 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 1: in all of football. That's surprising. A lot of pressure 911 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: put on Eli manning this. Yeah, I mean that's surprising 912 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: about the run defense. That really it is because you 913 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 1: look at that d line that they put what two 914 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: hundred million in it's it's that's true. It's they've spent 915 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: a lot of money on that. Uh. Money can't buy 916 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: you happiness. Yeah, but they didn't know. I'd like to 917 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: try though a helicopter. Just give me a shot and 918 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: make you give me that. I'll be fine. Yeah, that's 919 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: it's not it's it's not surprising that their offenses struggled. Yeah, 920 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: and they're one of the they're one of those teams 921 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: when you look at and you talk about teams that 922 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 1: have the ability to convert inside the thirty yard line 923 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 1: to get into the red zone. Giants don't have a 924 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: Giants don't have a conversion yet inside the thirty yard line. 925 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: They're over four and converting, you know, and they just 926 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: they don't And it's it's been it's a problem they 927 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: don't score. You know. Then ultimately it's a you know, 928 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: they're they're losing games. I mean, they got beat on 929 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 1: a sixty one yard field goal the other day, but 930 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: but they had when your season is not going, but 931 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,399 Speaker 1: they had to score twenty four points in the fourth 932 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: quarter just to get back in the game. Well, we 933 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: talked about it before week one. I mean, they didn't 934 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: really address their offensive lines. They didn't help your running game. 935 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 1: You got a thirty six year old quarter back who's 936 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: under pressure. It's not a good don't run. Yeah, even 937 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,879 Speaker 1: gonna have all the weapons in the world, Yeah, field 938 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: girls aren't gonna win games. They've been kind of their 939 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: enemy because Matt Prater made that one that looked like 940 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: it was just not going in at all. And then 941 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: Elliott gets the sixty one yarder and did you guys 942 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: see that Carson Wentz was miked up during the game 943 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,399 Speaker 1: and they were filming him during this, you know, while 944 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: Elliott was going out there lining up and he goes 945 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: he makes this, I'm giving him my game check. I'm 946 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: giving him my game check. Did you see that? I 947 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: heard about it? Yeah. And then so what happened? Did 948 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: charity run up very closely? Yes, charity giving it the chair. 949 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: That's cool charity, I mean, even though I'm sure Elliot 950 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 1: would have been happy to be ninety seven thousand dollars 951 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 1: plus more. Thinking if I'm a rookie kicker, I gotta 952 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 1: I gotta take that. There's my money right there, Mickey, 953 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: Mike chairit. Yeah, no, they're gonna that's what I heard. 954 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: They're gonna do his choice of charity. It's yeah, hey, 955 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: I like that, yeah hey. And then Deshaun Watson, obviously 956 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: quarterback who almost was able to beat the Patriots last week, 957 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: is giving his game check to three employees of Energy 958 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: Stage m who were greatly affected by Hurricane Harvey. And 959 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: they had a very nice video. Obviously, Texas we came 960 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: together strong for that. So check out that video because 961 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: that was a nice thing for the rookie quarterback. So 962 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,919 Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of really good guys 963 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: in this league. There are there are a lot of 964 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: guys that have come from nothing and appreciate the fact 965 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 1: that they there are where they are right now, and 966 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 1: they're willing to share. If you remember Deshaun Watson, his 967 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: family got a house from work Done. You remember the 968 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: running back. I don't know, Tay, it might be a 969 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,919 Speaker 1: little maybe, Yeah, Yeah, work Done with the Florida State 970 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: and started a program building homes for single moms and 971 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: he was one of the first that was able to 972 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: get or he got a home from work Done. So 973 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: he benefited from an NFL player stepping forward. Yeah, so 974 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,879 Speaker 1: a lot of really guys with big hearts in this league. 975 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: Work Done was like doing that on a once a 976 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: year once a year. Yeah, he was building a home 977 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 1: for a single mom. It isn't he You know, I 978 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 1: think we'd talk a lot about this game, and this 979 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: game is very important, but I think it's nice sometimes 980 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: when we have this opportunity to talk about and highlight 981 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 1: these great guys. You know, there are different guys around 982 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: the league who are continually trying to do better. So absolutely, 983 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: but that was neat to see Deshaun Watson yesterday. Very cool. 984 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 1: I knew that in a little bit earlier. I know, 985 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: we were talking about Todd Gurley and we'll really get 986 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 1: into the Rams offense tomorrow, but Todd Gurley is the 987 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: only player in the NFL to lead his team and 988 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: carry his touchdowns and reception. So if you shut him down, 989 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 1: he's just a great flat Yeah, we'll talk about him tomorrow, 990 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: but man, he's one of those guys. It's probably benefit 991 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback has benefited the most, Yeah, from the coaching 992 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 1: change and then the fact that the Rams went out 993 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: and helped him with some better talent around him. Offensive 994 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: line talent, receiver talent. You know. That's that's that's a 995 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: big commitment. And the quarterback talent there too. So how 996 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: we've been talking to dumped the ball to him that much. 997 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 1: He's a leading scorer in the NFL. Flat pass, Mickey, 998 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 1: get ready for it, up the field, flat and up. Yeah, 999 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: we'll really get into but how you guys are talking today. 1000 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: It kind of gives me some optimism because two weeks ago, 1001 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: we're sitting here getting ready for the Broncos game, and 1002 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: we're talking about how insane this Broncos defenses and how 1003 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: they're just so powerful. No one has the personnel like 1004 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: them in the league. And you know, the Cowboys, their 1005 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: offense was still struggling a little bit, but the Cowboys 1006 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 1: defense was doing better and everything, and it was kind 1007 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: of a mismatch game and it ended up being a 1008 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: lopsided score at the end of the game. But on 1009 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: the other side of this, it sounds like this game 1010 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 1: could be more in the favor of the Cowboys having 1011 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: a strong defense, but a strong offense, an offense that 1012 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: can attack their weak defense. Right now, Yeah, and I 1013 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: think being at home too will help the crowd and 1014 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,439 Speaker 1: the silent count and all that stuff, and especially Denver, 1015 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: but Arizona too. It creates problems for your communication offensively, 1016 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,879 Speaker 1: I think being at home should be able to help. 1017 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 1: And you pointed out, you know, they haven't been perfect defensively. 1018 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 1: They do have a good defensive front though, and it 1019 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: is going to be imperative to block those guys up front. 1020 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: I like what you said about home field home field 1021 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: advantage was something that a lot of people questioned at 1022 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: the beginning of last season. Obviously, after the Week one 1023 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: lost to the Giants, they went on to win all 1024 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: of their home games. Has it greatly improved? Well, A 1025 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 1: noon game on Sunday against the Rams give them that 1026 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: edge this week? I think so. I think. I think 1027 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,240 Speaker 1: it's a big people will still be sleeping. They'll be sleeping, 1028 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 1: not us. Mickey will be there at seven thirty am. 1029 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: Rather play there at Denver? Oh No, I'd rather play 1030 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: at home. Okay, I'm just saying, don't think that. I 1031 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I'm talking about offense too much 1032 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: of noon games at home here that the fans aren't 1033 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: real fired up for. Yeah, I you know, I I 1034 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: There's been a time, you know, before even Dak and 1035 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: Zeeke came where it was a struggle at home. I mean, 1036 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett had to ask answer a lot of questions about, 1037 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, why are you playing so well on the 1038 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: road and not playing well at home? And you know, 1039 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 1: last year kind of turned things around. If you look. 1040 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, when the crowd, you know, 1041 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: he always says though this too, and it just came 1042 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 1: in my head. You gotta give them reason to cheer. Yet, 1043 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 1: you gotta give them reason to get into the football game. 1044 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: And you know, if they have a start like they 1045 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 1: did against Arizona that that I'm from Dallas, I'll admit this. 1046 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: We're a front running team. We're a front running crowd, 1047 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, and so you know, if things are going well, 1048 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: we tend to kind of go with it and be 1049 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 1: part of it. If not, then we struggle with that. 1050 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: And I just feel like they need to get off 1051 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: to a really good start. That's captain obvious. I'm sorry 1052 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: about that, but but they really do need to get 1053 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: it off to it, especially with the noon game. You know, 1054 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: get off to a good start, get the crowd into it. 1055 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: You know, the last time I remember the Rams playing here, 1056 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: they weren't very good, and you know, uh Sam Bradford 1057 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: was playing quarterback and a back went for two hundred 1058 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: and fifty yards or something like that, and you know, 1059 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean it was a great win for the Cowboys. 1060 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: Brian moment, Oh no, that was in That was the 1061 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 1: the game. It was played. That game was played in 1062 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 1: Saint Louis. The Proud Brian god Bryan was born in St. Louis. Yeah, 1063 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: but Proud Brian at home against the Rams was the 1064 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,399 Speaker 1: the Marco Murray game and they just they mauled Sam 1065 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: Bradford that game, and they need that similar type of 1066 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: They need to get going on a role again like 1067 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 1: they did last year. Hey, I like hearing that. I 1068 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: like hearing that. Well, Dak be able to maul this 1069 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: defense though. I just want to see Dad have another 1070 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: consecutive good game. Yeah, it's to me, it's it's about 1071 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 1: the balance. It's about and I appreciate what Mickey said 1072 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: about throwing the football. I think he's right about that. 1073 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: I think you have to take advantage of the situations 1074 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 1: that are played to you. The Rams, you know, they've 1075 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 1: got the front. I mean, they're capable of making play. 1076 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: Have they made plays defensively? Know, all it takes is 1077 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 1: one game. You know, we saw what happened to Cowboys 1078 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 1: against Denver. They got mauled in that game where they 1079 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,439 Speaker 1: do to Arizona. They mauled Arizona once they settled down 1080 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,359 Speaker 1: and started, you know, playing the assignments and they got 1081 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,919 Speaker 1: pressure and things started clicking for him a little bit better. 1082 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: So all it takes is one time. You don't want 1083 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 1: to poke the bear with a stick too much. But yeah, 1084 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 1: take advantage of what you're gonna and that means Dak, 1085 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: if it means having to read option outside throws, be consistent. 1086 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: Don't put him in a lot of situations where he's 1087 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: the one having to make every single play that that's 1088 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: not fair to him. This their quarterbacks Golf, Jarrett Golf 1089 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 1: has has thrived with guys around him making plays. We 1090 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 1: thought coming into the season, Dak Prescott was not going 1091 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: to have a sophomore slump because of the players around him. 1092 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: Those guys need to make some placeful They need to 1093 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 1: pick up their game. Yeah, Wide receivers need to run 1094 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 1: better routes and catch the ball. Yeah, they got They 1095 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: got a couple of guys that made plays the other day, 1096 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: you know they had They had a couple of When 1097 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: you look at what Bryce Butler was able to do 1098 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: and Williams is able to do that, that goes to 1099 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: Mickey's point. That just shows you right there, when they 1100 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: do have receivers that make plays, they're capable of having 1101 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 1: success on offense and the run game. When they won 1102 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 1: thirteen games last year, he averaged thirty attempts a game. 1103 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 1: And that's when you think about he plays is in 1104 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: a football game that's fifty fifty and they need to 1105 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,240 Speaker 1: get back to that. Fifty attempts in Denver was crazy. 1106 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: Eighteen is an anomaly too. You never get forty four 1107 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: plays in a football game. So they need to win 1108 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 1: and win. Yeah, I mean, that's that's what's incredible. They 1109 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,279 Speaker 1: need to get back to that balance. Just don't fall 1110 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 1: behind by twenty five points. Yeah, talked about Cole Beasley getting, 1111 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, more protection than he's ever seen a lot 1112 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 1: in this Arizona game. How can he take advantage of 1113 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 1: the defense for the Rams to kind of have the 1114 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: production we've seen from him with Dak. Yeah, he thinks 1115 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,839 Speaker 1: about winning on the outside, but if des can win 1116 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,919 Speaker 1: on the outside, that kind of clogs saying a little 1117 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 1: things a little bit in the middle for him. I 1118 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: mean that that and the running game. To me, if 1119 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,760 Speaker 1: Dez can take care take care of his opportunities outside, 1120 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: that would that would really help things. Yeah. They He's 1121 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: come ups against some really some very good slot players 1122 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 1: and even last week Arizona put a safety inside on 1123 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 1: third down. Teams have understood that Cole Beasley might not 1124 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 1: beat you on first and set down where Cole Beasley 1125 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: can kill you is on third down, especially third and six, 1126 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 1: third and five, whatever, he can kill you on those 1127 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,240 Speaker 1: pivot routes and stuff like that. So people have figured 1128 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: out that, hey, don't let him have the ability to 1129 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: change directions on you don't let him if you put 1130 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 1: a guy inside and a guy outside, you're gonna take 1131 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 1: away his ability to play to his strength, which is 1132 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: his lateral quickness. So yeah, he's gonna you know, he's 1133 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 1: now gonna find a way to Okay, I know I'm 1134 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: getting some double coverage down on third down. You know, 1135 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 1: I've gotta be a little bit smarter what I need 1136 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: to do, how I need to escape, you know, And 1137 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have to be a little bit smarter saying okay, well, 1138 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: let's find somebody else here, Let's find you. If guys 1139 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 1: like Williams start making plays and Butler starts making Witten, 1140 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, is going to make a play throwing the 1141 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 1: ball to Ezekiel Elliot outside on the screen and him 1142 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: making a play that all of a sudden now will 1143 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,879 Speaker 1: spread things out and now will no longer allow people 1144 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 1: to double team Cole Beasley. Yes, exactly. Now we have 1145 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,359 Speaker 1: going to get into the Cowboys defense versus the Rams 1146 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 1: offense became is. Yesterday we told you that DeMarcus Lawrence 1147 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,800 Speaker 1: one NFC Defensive Player of the week. Well now he 1148 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: has one NFC Defensive Player of the month of course, 1149 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 1: with six point five sacks, he is leading the league. 1150 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: But on the other side of that, we just told 1151 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: you Todd Gurley's doing great. So now we're gonna get 1152 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: into it tomorrow. But you've got Todd Gurley the NFC 1153 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the month and now you've go righting 1154 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 1: up against DeMarcus Lawrence. So it'll be a great show 1155 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: and you guys should join us tomorrow at eleven thirty am. 1156 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: We'll be right back here in the SWBC Morgage studio. 1157 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 1: So for Mickey, Rob Bryan, I'm Taylor and we'll see tomorrow. 1158 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1159 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.