1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast is in a podcast marriage 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: made too Lights. Welcome back to another distorally Around the 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: NFL podcast presented by New Era. My name is Dan 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Ranzas joined in the room filled with heroes Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up? Boys? Hey? Dan, 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: what's up? We're in a marriage with who with the other? 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: This is a marriage, Let's face it. It's built to 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: last seven hundred plus episodes deep five years now, and 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: it is. We had a conversation our friend Uh, a 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: colleague downstairs, James co Uh of the NFL Fantasy Realm, 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: is leaving the company after several years, and we're gonna 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: miss him and invest luck in the future, and it did. 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Mark and I were talking to to Co and Uh. 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: Mark and I've been here since two thousand ten, I think, 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: you guys since what two thousand twelve? I was, yeah, 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: right at the beginning of two we are. And this 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: comes on the same day that one of the most important, 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: well important maybe it's not the word, but one of 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: the most visible newspapers where I grew up, the New 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: York Daily News, just slashed their sports department from thirty 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: five employees down to eight or something insane like that, 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: and cut loose a lot of like gifted beat writers 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: and stuff. And we are very lucky to have the 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: this amount of time that we've had together. Let it 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: be known when I arrived here before Dan, let's start 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: right there by a couple of weeks he got me. 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: And when Dan arrived he had no idea how the 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: computer systems worked. And I had to spend an afternoon 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: sitting down. You don't understand this is how our content 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: management system works. And without me, Dan, I think your 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: career would have gotten off to a rough start. The 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: lockout happened soon after, and they cleaned out a lot 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: of people. You probably would have been one of the people. 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: They said, this guy is just not getting the Tantonology 35 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: computer right. What are these speaking. We did have a 36 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: few editors that had had issues with Yes, technology act, 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Was a gentleman. We're definitely thinking 38 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: of the same person did not know how the internet worked. 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: But he's no longer with us. We're still we're happy 40 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: to be all together as we really. Yeah, he died 41 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: of natural causes. He's dead now, but he was a 42 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: good man. Uh No, he's alive. I think, um, but 43 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: couldn't be sure. But this is the Monday show. Um, 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: really the first show. Markets back to grinding. You're off 45 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: the beaches now, because off the beach here we are. 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: Now let's see the Bears. Good job by the Bears 47 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: are reported on the sixteenth, the Ravens, no joking around, 48 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: they reported on the eleventh. Uh. And now we have 49 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, the Dolphins, the Saints, the Bears, the oh 50 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: I see you, Detroit Lions July nine, good job by you, 51 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: and um and then today Cardinals, Colts, Chiefs, Pats, Giants, Titans, 52 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: all reporting and then everyone else will by the end 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: of the week. So we are now. I mean we've 54 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: flipped the page of the calendar swipped over. It is 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: the two thousand eighteen season, so it's a twenty eight 56 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: weeks season. That's how I like to look at it now. 57 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 1: Twenty week one just started. This is like what we 58 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: so enjoy it. I don't know if it's just because 59 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: we've done this so many times that it doesn't feel 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: like the start or end anything. And I don't mean 61 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: to downplay it. It's just that it's like we were 62 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: doing a lot of work last week. We were doing 63 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: a lot of work the week before, and it will 64 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: continue on until you know it does next does feel 65 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: like a difference. I think we all enjoyed this offseason. 66 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: I mean West has been was named off season champions, 67 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: been a little cocky since, to be honest, kind of 68 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: throwing him right around like, Hey, I'm I'm the champion, 69 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: not you guys. When he's posting Instagram photos in his 70 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: new backyard of a wine and cheese party. Hold, I mean, 71 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: this guy is feeling himself a little bit. Show I 72 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: didn't post anything, he didn't. And now this morning I 73 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: dropped off my family at the airport there I shipped 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: them away for the rest of the season, and uh 75 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: now it does feel like that is the start of something. 76 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: And and now a brief aside, Dear God, please please 77 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: let the Browns be better this year, because I don't 78 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: think Mark will survived this season if you're not better 79 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: with the Browns. So make the Browns okay. I think 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: you're secretly wishing that that's just about the Jets, but 81 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: this is you. We need you to get through this. 82 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: We we are rooting for. I guess my bigger concern 83 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: internally is like that I feel exceedingly detached from the Browns, 84 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: So I would like to we don't believe it. Don't 85 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: you say that every August? I just do. I don't 86 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: know if your entire personality shifts as a Brown season 87 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: descends into chaos. It's more one like people are down 88 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: in the news from that. That's never going to change, 89 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: I know, well unless they got better, if nothing else, 90 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: for the sake of the Sunday Night podcast listeners, the 91 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: sky sports hits we do on Sunday, I want you 92 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: to have some smiles. Well, it would just be different. 93 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: How about it just would be different than anything we've 94 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: experienced here. I think we should play the track of 95 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: all the time you've said you've detached from the Browns 96 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: and the Pits. Well, let's a tortured, unhealthy relationship. Uh. 97 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: We had teased on Friday. What did we tease, lindsay, 98 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: rebirth of a new season. We figured out that's what 99 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: the cooling was about. And also it did get on 100 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: our radar because a lot of listeners reached out that 101 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: this is our five year anniversary of the podcast. So 102 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: how about that rebirth for that too? Baby? All right? Anyway, 103 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: the big effing announcement shadow league figure said, hold off 104 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: on that until the end of the week. So the 105 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: the big announcement will come probably on Friday's show. So 106 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: don't get married. It's an extended tease. Yes, just make 107 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: you uh so a lot to get to today and 108 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: updates speaking in the Cleveland Browns on one of their 109 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: top playmakers and his availability for training camp. Really sad news. 110 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: Uh a former head coach passes away and uh in uh. 111 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: Later on in the show, we will talk about with 112 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: training camp really rolling into form now um a piece 113 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: written by Greg that we will talk about notable bros 114 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: on the roster bubble and training camp. Greg's wording in 115 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: that headline as well, not my wording. It's not accurate. 116 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: It's not accurate. What are you gonna do, by the way, 117 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: with the house to yourself? What is that supposed to be? Uh? 118 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: We got that Jimmy g music to spend a lot 119 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: at um, you know, taco places around the West Side. 120 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if the past is any indication, there's gonna 121 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: be some fence climbing and some windows broken into and 122 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: Greg's break into the house. It's just good to have 123 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: that house to yourself though. Yeah, but now everyone knows 124 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: So aren't you kind of like the way when you 125 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: were younger, You like people find out parents gone, and 126 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: suddenly from everyone from your class, in this case, your 127 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: workplace piles over to the Rosenthal hanover. It's been a while. 128 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: I don't think you guys have been there in like 129 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: five years. I think it was like the birth of 130 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: your first jolb. I think it was a birthday party. 131 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: Early on, it was all right, let's uh do some 132 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: news football. It Trump's politics. That's true. That is true, 133 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: and it's all in the wording. Mark, you did a 134 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: nice job with that, Dan. The Cleveland Browns will start 135 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: training camp without Josh Gordon. Uh, the receiver reinstated by 136 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: the league last year, announced on Monday morning through social 137 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: media he will not report for camp on Wednesday, when 138 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: the rest of his teammates show up. UM, we don't 139 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: have a clear picture of the case behind it, but 140 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: Gordon said that he said that current treatment UH that 141 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: he is. Of course, Gordon has had his issues with 142 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: substance abuse, UH, and that's led to his past suspensions. UH. 143 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: That he is going into a treatment to kind of 144 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: get ahead of any future issues that he could have. 145 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: So this was his line to my Cleveland Browns an 146 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: NFL family, I am reaching out to you all personally 147 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: and letting you know that I am not only doing 148 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: great physically, but mentally as well. You will notice that 149 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: I will not be in Cleveland for the start of 150 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: training camp. Rest assured, this too is a part of 151 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: my overall overall health and treatment plan mark Um. It's 152 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: kind of being teased as something that won't be a 153 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: long term absence, but again, this is something to keep 154 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: an eye on because Gordon has had his problems. Yeah, 155 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: and NFL media insider Ian Rappaport noted right away when 156 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: they brought him on Inside Training Camp Live, which launched today, 157 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: that it's not a suspension, it's not a failed drug test, 158 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: and at this point there's no timeline for when he's 159 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: going to be back. That it's part of something that 160 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: his medical team came up. But think it's natural. Not 161 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: only is a Brown stamper anyone who's following Josh Gordon's 162 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: career that you're immediately wondering what is really going on here, 163 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: But based on what we know and like you'd find 164 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: out if it was a suspension or something that happened 165 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: that was really a problem for his development in a 166 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: different way than this. I think the best possible scenario 167 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: is that he's been in so much rehab that he's 168 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: gained some maturity in terms of knowing when he's going 169 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: to get into a tricky area and addressing it beforehand. 170 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: But most people probably feel like something went on behind 171 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: the scenes that we don't know about, but we'll know 172 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: about at some point. Yeah. The statement mentions the medical 173 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: director who was appointed jointly by the NFL and the 174 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: NFL p A. So whatever happened happened along with the 175 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: consultation from from that medical director. Whether it was Gordon 176 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: coming to him or the director gaining awareness of something 177 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: going on in Gordon's life, we gotta wait and just see. Right, 178 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: We're just speculating, but I think it it does serve 179 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: the overall point that the Browns have gotten this far. 180 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: I think kind of counting on him now for this year, 181 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: and so we'll see. We just don't know. Moving on 182 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: to some really sad news in the NFL. This fall 183 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: to me, goes in this hole. Okay, it's four games worth, 184 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: all right, goes in the hole, and I'm gonna put 185 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: the first piece of dirt on it. Okay, anybody else 186 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: that wants to put any dirt on it, you help yourself. 187 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: And if you don't feel like you need to do 188 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: anything like that, okay, I'm fine with that. But here's 189 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: your shovel, here's your tool, and those four games are 190 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: over and we're found ready to go to work. That, 191 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: of course, is the voice of Tony Sperrano, the former 192 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins head coach, former interim coach for the Raiders 193 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: when that famous SoundBite that's where that came from, and 194 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: current Minnesota Vikings offensive line coach. He died unexpectedly on Sunday, 195 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: just fifty six years old. Sperrano was entering his third 196 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: season as the Vikings offensive line coach under Mike zimmer Uh. 197 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: He had been in the NFL for over two decades. 198 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: Began his career back in ninety nine with the New 199 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: Browns franchise. That four year run with the Dolphins went 200 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: twenty nine and thirty two, but also became the first 201 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: head coach to ever lead a team that had gone 202 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: one in fifteen the year before to the playoffs UM 203 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: and still the only team since UM the Brady Belichick 204 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: regime took hold that's won that division other than the 205 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: Patriots the Dolphins in two thousand and eight. Um, so 206 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: there you go. Mike zimmer Um said, I love Tony's 207 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: uh Sperrano. He was a great teacher, a grinder of 208 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: a worker, and had a toughness and fighting spirit that 209 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: showed in our lineman. I think when he first came 210 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: into our lives, we constantly knew him as the guy 211 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: whose name was almost Tony Soprano, and then eventually he 212 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: got to be this guy who it seemed like everybody 213 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: appreciated him for being a really good position coach, offensive 214 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: line guy, tight ends running game like he bounced around 215 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: from all these teams. But he seemed to be beloved 216 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: figure and was really good at that aspect of the job. 217 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: And he and we had on this very podcast had 218 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: a lot of fun with the very the ball. That's 219 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: when he was the interim coach and he took over. 220 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: I think the Raiders had lost four in a row 221 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: to start the season, if I recall, and what he 222 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: did was, and this was documented by their social media, 223 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: was dig a hole, dropped the ball in and then 224 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: handed the shovel around, and then all the Raiders players 225 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: took his queue and then Uh sealed up the ball 226 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: underneath the practice field, and we had fun with at 227 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: the time because it was kind of like a funny, 228 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: like cliche, uh coach thing to do, but it was 229 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: also like Speranto and also his personality. He was a 230 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Connecticut guy. Um. His backstory how he had the reason 231 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: he wore the sunglasses is when he was a teenage 232 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: cook and a fast food restaurant. He had a grease 233 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: accident and they everyone had a lot of fun with 234 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: him having the shades on at all times. Uh. Speranto 235 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: was a personality. Uh. And it's really sad to hear 236 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: him him go like this and you just look at 237 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: the outpouring the tweets, the words from the people that 238 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: knew him that were like these. A lot of these 239 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: is even though he was a head coach and we 240 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: knew him from that a long time assistant, and these 241 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: guys sometimes flowed anonymously after their head coaching career on 242 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: these teams, but you're spending more time with your players 243 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: than the head coach often or anyone else in the building. 244 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: And everyone just came out saying this guy in his family, 245 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: his kids, his wife, they just adored him. And so 246 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: the person had a huge impact on the people he coached, 247 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: and it was so sudden. I mean, he was the 248 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: offensive line coach of the Vikings. You know, he had 249 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: a doctor's appointment reportedly last week and was feeling some 250 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: chest beins and so it really came out of nowhere 251 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: and shocked the Vikings. And you're right, Mark, Like, when 252 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: we think of NFL coaches, you think, well, was he 253 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: a success? Was he not? You think about like wins 254 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: and losses, and like listening to some of the people 255 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: like Jake Long had a really long, uh, really beautiful 256 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: tweet saying how how much Sperano had meant to him 257 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: and his family and was maybe you know, the most 258 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: important UH coach and kind of a father figure in 259 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: his life. And Donald Penn, who's now with the Raiders UH, 260 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: said very much the same thing. Reggie bus Chadpan and 261 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: all these people, and you think, like, that's that's success. 262 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Like just listening to everyone talk about how how important 263 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: he put his family and how clearly loyal. All the 264 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: players that that code that played under him were like 265 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: that success. He had an incredible success, and it's easy 266 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: to forget that he had that one season in two 267 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: thousand and eight when they did win the division. We're 268 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: watching Ronnie Brown and the Dolphins run that wildcat. That 269 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: was a sensation for months to thirteen. Still the worst 270 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: home loss of the Belichick era in New England. They 271 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: had no they had no answers. Ronny Brown I think 272 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: had nine touches and or and four touchdowns or three touchdowns. 273 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: It was complete, like coaching masterpiece. So Sperrano, even though 274 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: maybe it didn't end well in Miami, he always had that, 275 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: including that division title. Um. So rest in the peace, 276 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: Tony Sperrano. Let's move on to Andrew Luck and more 277 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: good news for the Colts. Quarterback. General manager Chris Ballard 278 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: announced Friday that the stars your favorite type of Well, 279 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: he said that, but then he also said that the 280 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: team's star quarterback was quote good to go for training camp. 281 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: That per Kevin Bowen of ten seventy to fan in Indianapolis, 282 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: Luck will practice without limitations and take the teams starting 283 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: snaps in camp, uh with the dose of built in 284 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: days off, and he will play in the preseason. Mark. 285 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: This is all exactly what a Colts fan wants to hear. Yeah, 286 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean this has been one of the more elongated 287 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: beguiling narratives for so long because they've gone back and 288 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: forth on what Luck would be able to do in 289 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: various O t A s and mini camps. And this if, 290 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: assuming there's no setback at all, is a definitive answer 291 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: that we're going to get Andrew Luck back at full 292 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: strength this season, and it completely changes what the cults are. 293 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: He's at the fever. Remember Jim Mersey said it, He's 294 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: got the hundred and seven degree fever for success, And 295 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: now here it is, and it's proof and it makes 296 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: me more excited to watch football in two thousand eight teams, 297 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: there aren't many players more fun to watch. Remember we 298 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: look that up. If you haven't a hundred and seven refever, 299 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: you need to seek medical attention to media, life is 300 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: in danger. You're dead, You're very close to it. It's 301 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: not it's it's boiling West. I don't know why you're laughing. 302 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: It's Mark. I don't find it funny at all. I 303 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: think you would. You would need to seek medical help 304 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. Little updates on some star players 305 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: that will be at camp this week or when they're 306 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: camps or team's report. Odell Beckham Jr. Another elongated narrative 307 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: Mark speaking of which uh he will be with the 308 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: team and report on time on Wednesday. Kimberly Jones reported 309 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: he wants to play football Comma, he wants to win 310 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: Hubba Hubba. Also David Johnson, he will be ready to go. Um. 311 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: Johnson coming back from that wrist injury last year that 312 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: basically cost him the entire season, but he is also 313 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: heading into the final year of his rookie deal. Uh. 314 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: They're trying to get a deal done, but that won't 315 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: stop Johnson from playing ball with his teammates. And also 316 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy, who of course is uh embroiled in UH 317 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: nothing that he's been connected to by the police, but 318 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: the stories about the alleged home invasion robbery involving his 319 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: ex girlfriend. Thought that maybe that would be something that 320 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: would complicate his season, and it's still might but for now, 321 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: he will report to the Bills on time on Wednesday, 322 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: So all three of those men will be with their teammates. 323 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: David Johnson and O'Dell Beckham fall into the same category 324 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald and Khalil Mack as guys looking for 325 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: contracts and you have to decide are you better serve 326 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: showing up and trusting that the deal might get done, 327 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: or holding out and trying to prompt the team into 328 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: making a move. And rap Sheet Today on Our Airwaves 329 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: said that out of all of them, Khalil Mack is 330 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: the one to watch, that this could get serious, that 331 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: there could be potential for him to hold out long 332 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: into training camp. So Khalil Mack looks like the one 333 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: that we're gonna want to watch. I'm happy that Dave, 334 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean David Johnson. It sounds like it's a matter 335 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: of time until he gets his deal and we don't 336 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: have to do this story. Yeah, and what I'm one 337 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: thing on Odell Beckham. I looked it up today. Twenty 338 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: one wide receivers will make more money than him this season. 339 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: And yet the Giants have taken a bit of a 340 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: different tone than than the Cardinals because Steve Kinds said 341 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: we want to make this work with David Johnson. The 342 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: Giants sound to be in no rush at all, and 343 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: I just don't know how like you've got to get 344 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: this thing done. I don't wonder if how much him 345 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: being a total weirdo factors into the Giant's hesitation. I 346 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: think the ownership spoken about that. I mean they feel 347 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: like there's more to see with Odell Beckham. I'm, you know, 348 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: being playful of my wording. But his personality, he's eccentric. 349 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: He he may be a guy that they're not totally 350 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: sure about investing that much money. And we'll see onto 351 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens nest. Oh my god, white, a white, a 352 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: horrible bird. They get their own sound and drop. I 353 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: don't you know these other teams out there should be 354 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: I know, I think that's why the Ravens fans are 355 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: so protective of this drop. That's horrible bird. That's a 356 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: little harsh. That's one of those wings flap. It's one 357 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: of the smartest animals in the Kingdom, you know what. 358 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: That's fair. I actually was thinking that Rose and the 359 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: Crow and the raven are different beasts. Well they're there 360 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: are a lot alike, and they're both extremely intelligent as 361 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: far as birds go. Yeah, a little overrated. That's like 362 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: being the tallest person out like a family dinner or 363 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: something like. You should YouTube it's like YouTube clips of 364 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: of a bird like fashioning and implement out of a 365 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: paper clip, just to pick something up like it works 366 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: out problems and incomes and you would like send the 367 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: ravens with messages in olden times. Well, I think that's 368 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: more of a fiction, science fiction thing, but I can 369 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: see it happening when you when are you going online 370 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: and looking up clips of birds? Yeah, I'll take you. 371 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: I'll take your words like it's a fascinating video. The bird, 372 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: the bird is incredibly those birds off. Please, They did 373 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: have a messenger pigeons back in the day, right, Who 374 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: is the tallest member of your family? And now that 375 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: you bring it up, I'm curious and like the history 376 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: of the family, I guess my dad. No, I mean, 377 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 1: I don't really know beyond there. What about like a grandparents, 378 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: small family, your brother, he's a couple in just talling 379 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: me maybe by me, and you married. Your wife is Japanese, 380 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: she's short, her family's short as well. I'm just as 381 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: tall as her parents. Yeah. So you're continuing, You're you're 382 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: advancing the trend. Yeah. Basically, when you're going all in, 383 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: you're just leaning into it. But yeah, when I when 384 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: when I see my son out there playing soccer, we're 385 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: out there, I'm like, you, poor sucker, Actually soccer, I guess. Yeah, 386 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: it's good to be basketball. I um, I have a friend, 387 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, my friend Smasher. Yes, um, he's a big 388 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: fan of the Belgian soccer team. It's where he's from. Said, 389 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: their number one guy, their top star. Terrible example guy, 390 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: terrible example to use soccer there, I should have said 391 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: tennis basketball, something like that, Bud web Broye. Al Right, 392 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: here we go onto the Ravens nest Joe Flacco. Oh, 393 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: he is supposed to be the starting quarterback and probably 394 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: will be for the Ravens. But don't forget about the 395 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: rook Lamar Jackson, who was really doing himself some favors 396 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: with a strong start to his training camp. Here's what 397 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Marty Morin wig more Hin wig more. I 398 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: know how to say it, but then when you look 399 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: at the spelling, it actually will trip you up. It's 400 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: a I think maybe the number one toughest spelled spelled 401 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: name in the game. Yeah, it's not a funderrated I've 402 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: never learned. I still cannot. You know, it did it 403 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: for me. Our former podcast producer, he reminded us on 404 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: Twitter when you when this came up, you just gotta 405 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: remember it's gap and then polo. But it sounds ridiculous, 406 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: but that's helped me. Remember, because you're always talking about 407 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: your Look at that gap over there in the corner. 408 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: Here's what Marty had to say about Lamar. He's done 409 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: an outstanding job to date. Uh. This from the Ravens 410 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: official website. He's way ahead of the curve. This guy 411 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: is a hard, hard worker and a tough minded guy. 412 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: And you know what, don't just sleep on it. Oh 413 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: so it's it's a wrap. This guy is gonna take 414 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: the job over because it's not necessarily the truth because 415 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: you know what else. Marty had this to say about 416 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. Oh my god, it looks like he's moving 417 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: and grooving better than he has in several years. Uh. 418 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: And he had the back injury last year and now 419 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: he's looking good. There's there's a lot of like Joe 420 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: Flacco is moving well, and Joe Flacco is motivated right now. 421 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: That's what really speaks to me. That's on the radar 422 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: a little bit. Why talking about that so much? Why 423 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: does he need the motivation so much? You Dan, you 424 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: are enjoying this like it's a Kicker bat I am 425 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: like this really whatever that button is that the Kicker 426 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: battles really pushed for you this particular quarterback battle is 427 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: it's two great narratives. It's the young kid that everyone 428 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: loves that could electrify the roster, and then the old dog. 429 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: Now I feel like you're way more interested in seeing 430 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: how Joe Flacco reacts to this. Yes, and and all 431 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: the motivation stories and all, and he's old super Bowl hero. 432 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: I think it's a really nice combination. It's kind of 433 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: like what happened in any given Sunday with Jamie Foxx's 434 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: character in Dennis Quait very much. So. I think, oh, 435 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: that's where it keeps reminding me that the Giants did 436 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: not go down this path. Yeah, just this could be 437 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: the Giants. It could And I don't think it's a 438 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: bad thing. Like I watched Flacco's press or the other day, 439 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: he was kind of having fun with it. I don't 440 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: know if it's a new Joe Flacco or what, but 441 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: he was kind of salt, He's a little sarcastic. He 442 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: was kind of poking fun, having fun with it. I 443 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: don't think it's much of a battle, uh one or 444 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: whoever our reporter is there today, I'm it's Scarafolo. Mike 445 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: says that said that Lamar Jackson's been lining up in 446 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: the slot a couple of times today that he's been 447 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: lining up as a wide receiver. I like that angle too. 448 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: It's like I like that angle too, but that that 449 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 1: means it's it's not a battle so mentioned that there 450 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: have been a couple of times where he has just 451 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: fried the defense. And I would love to know what 452 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: the what the player by the time you get to 453 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: end of this preseason, who the players want as their quarterback. 454 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: It says potential for a lot of lamar jack is 455 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: playing the slot, dropping third down passes when they take 456 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: their slot receiver off the field, and he would have 457 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: caught the past like this that you always hear about 458 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: this in the summer and that the quarterback messes up 459 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: and they're like, we were not going to do that again. 460 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: It's like, sorry, Willie sneed you gotta go to the bench. Um. 461 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: I like that. By the way, West, it was like, 462 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: why is damn like this so much? Like is it 463 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: like an interesting football story to He's like, no, it's 464 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: from some stupid movie. That's why he likes. That's how 465 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: you took my response. I mean, it's accurate. A lot 466 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: of a lot of your sports interest ties in your 467 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: pop culture interests as well. Yes, it's correct, moving on 468 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: and all right. I think it's more about the personalities, 469 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: like you are intrigued by the person. Uncomfortable where I am. 470 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: Listen right now, I could be in the lab if 471 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to. Yeah, I don't choose to be right now. 472 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm upstairs in the kitchen. But I could go down 473 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: to the lab if I needed to, So I can 474 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: go up and down the flights of stuff. Just be 475 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: happy you're still breathing. Unlike that guy who had to 476 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: learn the Internet, who knows where he is but nobody 477 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: knows hope to learn the Internet. I hope he's alive. Uh, 478 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel, remember that guy. Uh he's still in the CFL, 479 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: but he hasn't been playing at all. Uh. The Hamilton 480 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: Tiger Cats happened to have um the best quarterback in 481 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: the league right now? Starting are you guys? Where? What's 482 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: his name? I don't know who? What is it? I 483 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: forget his first Jeremiah Massoli something like that. Maybe it's 484 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: the guy that couldn't do the Internet. Maybe I have enough. 485 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: I have enough teams to track. I don't track CFL 486 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: on a day to day basis um. Anyway, the Tiger 487 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: Cats have a study quarterback. They ad Manziel wasting way 488 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: on the bench. It was probably a distraction. It is 489 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: probably a major media story in the CFL. So what 490 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: do they do. They ship them to the last place 491 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: squad in the CFL, the Montreal Alouettes. Uh, a move 492 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: that reunites Manzel with the head coach of the Alouettes. 493 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, there he is Mike Sherman, former Packers 494 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: offensive courts or head coach. And also h the man 495 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: who recruited Manziel to Texas A and M once upon 496 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: a time. Yeah, there you go. Although he didn't coach 497 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: on her he's a red shirt guy. Sherman's first year 498 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: and then I think Sherman got fired at A and M. 499 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: And then, uh, they probably still like spoke to each 500 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: other in the hallways. They're actually best friends, best friends, 501 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: there's a link. I have two sources. I don't have 502 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: a third, so I can't say that definitively that they're 503 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: best friends at college. But here's what the GM of 504 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: the outlets said about Manziel. We have acquired an exceptional 505 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: quarterback with undeniable talent, with his great mobility, his athletic 506 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: abilities and his instinct. We believe that we have a 507 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: positive impact on our offense and offense spelled with a 508 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: C at the ends. Who would who would have guessed 509 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: that on July we'd be talking about Manzel being traded 510 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: for two first round picks and two players still got 511 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: value just not here. I don't know who. I don't 512 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: know who? What the who is the CFL drafting? When 513 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: is their draft occur? Because they're not taking Sequon Barkley 514 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: away from the Giants, I don't know. What's a little 515 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: confusing with like how much I don't really know their 516 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: Their chart with the draft picks is clearly out of 517 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: whack compared to the NFL's. If Johnny Manzel's worth two 518 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: first round picks wanting a blockbuster deal up in the CFL, 519 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: where are the wasted draft pick on a guy or not? 520 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: In the CFL? Do you like if you get whispers 521 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: that somebody's interested in maybe possibly playing for Canada, you 522 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: could waste a draft pick on the German? Isn't the 523 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: guy I feel like to turn his career around? But 524 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: a Manzel? We haven't heard him speaking out in frustration, 525 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: Although how would We know he's in Canada, but this 526 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: means we get him. He'll be playing in days. Get 527 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: him in the lineup. Somebody who are not getting him 528 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: in the lineup. I don't know what they're doing, man, 529 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: I know why he didn't like for the Tiger Cats. 530 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: But now get him in the lineup. But the bad team. 531 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: Let's go Alouettes. UH. The NFL UH and the NFL 532 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: Players Association announced in a joint statement Thursday. This happened 533 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: right after our last podcast, that the league and team 534 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: policies regarding conduct during the playing of the national anthem 535 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: will not be issued or enforced for several weeks as 536 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: part of a stand still agreement between the two sides. 537 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: A source and forms of this situation told our own 538 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero that everything connected to league and club policies 539 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: on the anthem will remain on hold as discussions between 540 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: the two sides play out. In a statement, read a 541 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: little part of the statement from the union, the NFL 542 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: and NFL p A, through recent discussions have been working 543 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: on a resolution important word there to the anthem issue. UM. 544 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: So we'll see how this plays out. This was always 545 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: the thing Gregg that jumped out to me. When this 546 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: controversy went off last month, was how were these two entities, 547 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 1: the NFL and the p A not in lockstep when 548 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: the announcement was made. So maybe better late than never, uh, 549 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: to pull it back and try to get this right. 550 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: This development I think was embarrassing for the league to 551 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: have to do. But I'm just hopeful as a fan, 552 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you NFL and NFL p A come 553 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: up with a solution that that makes everyone happy, the players, 554 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: the owners, us, all of it. I think you can 555 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: do it. Well, here's the solution. Don't do anything. I 556 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: was gonna say, keep it on hold. No, don't do anything, 557 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: but you have to announce that you're not going to 558 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: do everything anything. It's obs first. I would do that. 559 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: I put it on hold, not say anything, not not 560 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: respond to the president's tweets, but he's already done one. 561 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: And just play football and just let it play and 562 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: let people exercise their rights. You know, it's the only 563 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: like they've gotten in their way over and over and 564 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: over with this. This was the first sensible kind of 565 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: move and the only way to move forward is to 566 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: not try to impose this team by team sort of 567 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: state by state law on this issue. But you're not 568 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: gonna make everyone happy no matter what you do. You're 569 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: not you do make us happy, you know, people, not everyone. 570 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: You do wonder if some of the owners who are 571 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: most vocal, seemingly and trying to make the story go 572 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: away a and trying to play Kate the president will 573 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: maybe feel differently now than they did in the spring. 574 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: You can only hope that's what's happening in the news. 575 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, so here we are. It is the 576 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: last week of July. Teams are reporting, players are reporting. 577 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: Uh and guess what, some of the players reporting to 578 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: camp aren't going to make it to them to camp 579 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: with their teams. And that was the subject of the 580 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: latest banger from Greg rosenthal Um titled, as I noted earlier, 581 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: Greg's title notable bros on roster bubble in training camp 582 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: and a lot of mylids out of this bit. I 583 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: don't know, just something that makes me laugh, the idea 584 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: of you typing bros and the headline, I don't know. 585 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, what's the difference between bros and guys? Well, 586 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: that's a that's a fair question. Not every guy is 587 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: a bro Hm, but every bro is a guy. I 588 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: mean in theory. Yeah, that's it is. It's gonna the 589 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: really unpacked that one. Um. Anyway, So Greg, you uh, 590 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: you laid out some I would say, prominent players of 591 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: all different sizes and shapes and ages. Uh. And you 592 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: started the list. Uh, it doesn't look like it's alphabetical. 593 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: So I'll start with the guy that you talked about first. 594 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: It's Donald Penn, who has been um offensive line with 595 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: the Raiders. And you think that is a guy right there, 596 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: look out and that that would probably be a man 597 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: that would attract the market. I think if he ended 598 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: up on the street, they'll only cut him. I believe 599 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: if he's not healthy. He's a big man, thirty five 600 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: years old coming off a major foot surgery. He's guaranteed 601 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: three million dollars or else he already might be cut, 602 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: so they'll see if he's healthy. And if he's healthy, 603 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: I think you have a chance to make the team. 604 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: But they drafted a left tackle and they're not moving 605 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: that left tackle, Colton Miller, to the right side at 606 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: all during training camp or practices or anything. Colton Miller's 607 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: playing the left side. And if he's just a better 608 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: player than than Penn, who was originally a buccaneer when 609 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: John Gruden was there way back in two thousand seven. 610 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: What an undrafted player Donald Pennis turned into? And it 611 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: would be very John Gruden on brand for a cutthroat. 612 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: Let's release the guy that used to be with me 613 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: in Tampa. I've got no no alignment to annual. I mean, 614 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: you think that Gruden would love a player that was 615 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: around a decade plus ago, but I think a lot 616 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: of them. I think he's a sneaky, cutthroat guy. Pen 617 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: also called up rude and furious when they drafted Colton 618 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: Miller called him up on the phone. Maybe Gruden said no, 619 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: no, no no, don't like that. No one calls me on 620 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: the phone. M West. I'm gonna lay out four quarterbacks 621 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: on Greg's list, Which one to you was the most 622 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: likely and the least likely to be cut? Brett Hunley 623 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: of the Packers, Robert Griffin the Third of the Raven, 624 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: Steady Bridgewater of the Jets, and Paxton Lynch of the Broncos. 625 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: I think Robert Griffin the Third and Brett Hunley are 626 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: in the same basket here because but very rarely do 627 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: teams keep three quarterbacks anymore, and the Packers went out 628 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: and got Deshaun Kaiser, who's another young quarterback to put 629 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: behind Aaron Rodgers. And they saw last year they couldn't 630 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: rely on Brett Hunley, so why carry a guy you 631 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: can't rely on? And then r G three they signed 632 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: him before they drafted Lamar Jackson, And again, I don't 633 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: see teams wanting to keep three quarterbacks, so I would 634 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: think r G three is probably in major danger of 635 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: getting cut. I think he has a good decent chance 636 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: to stay r G three until they seems to be 637 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: really sold on this idea that like him and Lamar 638 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: Jackson have somewhat similar skill sets and that that sounds 639 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: like a like a backup of the future. It sounds 640 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: great till you need a special teamer on game day. 641 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: What if he I'm I'd like to see an r 642 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: G three having a nice preseason and training camp and 643 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: just kind of be back in the mix, and that 644 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: he he shows them that he's an NFL quarterback and 645 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: that they would just want to keep him. I mean, 646 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: and if you're r G three, I would I would 647 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: assume the moment that they drafted Lamar Jackson, you're kind 648 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: of like crap, because that is never going to be 649 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: the place for him. Uh, He's never gonna get real time. 650 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: He would would be better off at this stage of 651 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: his career having a new home, but at this point 652 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: he was the NFL let so he doesn't have really 653 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: that type of power to be able to, like I 654 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: want to be somewhere else. He's just trying to re 655 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: establish him own. Last time we saw him, he was 656 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: far from impressive. The Ravens can cut him and resign 657 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: him at any point. Two running backs, Mark Sessler, that 658 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: you would think could help a team if they are 659 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: motivated or reach the potential that others or some at 660 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: some point believe they could have. Uh, Doug Martin, who 661 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: is currently of course with the Raiders uh due to 662 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: make one point three seven million, but they have a 663 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: lot of running backs on the roster in Oakland. And 664 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,479 Speaker 1: Amer Abdullah, who Greg believes will find a way most 665 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: likely to stay with the Lions. Your thoughts on those 666 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: two backs. I feel like we've heard that Gruden really 667 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: likes Doug Martin, so I don't know, but I guess 668 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: that depends on what version of Doug Martin do we 669 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: get between now and cut time. Because it's out and 670 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: even years right, whether an odd he's a passable running 671 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: but I think that ended last and we were buying 672 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: into that last year, and he had a lot of 673 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: preseason hype last year and it didn't work out. I mean, 674 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: the Lions for once have an intriguing backfield with depth 675 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: than different types of back so Abduela is going to 676 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: just have to find a way to be more impressive. 677 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like the rookie could lead them 678 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: and carries and we'll just have to see. Was it 679 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: your love of Frank Gore that saved him from being 680 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: on this list out of respect? I mean, because he 681 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: seems like the most likely running back to me to 682 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: not make the team. They've been talking him up so much, 683 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: and I look at that roster and he looks very 684 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: much like a guy who's going to make the roster 685 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: as a backup running back. What about I don't see 686 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: what's going to change, but well, the fact that he's 687 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: he hasn't been a good running back for a while. Solid, 688 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: he's better on better on tape than than he he 689 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: hasn't been a good running back for a while. He's 690 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: one of the major reasons why the Colt Tavan had 691 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: a rushing attack. Adrian Peterson has thoroughly outplayed him as 692 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: a runner. That's why he's Adrian Peterson rush for over 693 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: thirty arts twice in six games last year with the Cardinals. 694 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: Frank Gore didn't do it once in three years with 695 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: the Colts. It all makes sense, and he averaged three 696 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: point seven yards per carry the last two years. Happens 697 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: very good when it happens when agendas clash. And then 698 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,959 Speaker 1: he's thirty five years old. He's not like he's gonna 699 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: get better now. Like I'm not in the lab, but 700 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: I can hear this argument from the second floor of 701 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: the house. He's one of the smartest guys, so he's 702 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: not going on the field that much, but he's kind 703 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: of signing him. He stayed, He stayed around a little bit. 704 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: New listeners of the show. Wes has forever been a 705 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: big fan of Adrian Peterson, both in the past and 706 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: still believes in the present and the future. And Greg 707 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: basically Frank Gore even wrote a long form about the 708 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: Inconvenient truth is has long been a supporter of Gore 709 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: as one of them rated backs. And I wouldn't put 710 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: him on this list because there's there's been no indication 711 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: to think that he would get cut there just because 712 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: they seem the game films the indication. That's the like, 713 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: why why isn't they every other old guy you put 714 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: on this list but you don't put Frank. I'm a 715 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: little concerned just that that West is getting kickbacks from 716 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: a Juan Peterson at this way, it is conserned. Peterson 717 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: saw that in the off season Champion. He said, hey, man, 718 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: can you help me out? I know you've always all 719 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: these uh, wine and cheese parties aren't cheap. Go watch 720 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson play last year, then go watch Frank Gore. Right, 721 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: that's fine, but that has nothing to do with whether 722 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: Frank Gore is gonna get cut. He's gonna get cut 723 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: because he's just not very good. That like Andy's old, 724 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: so that's probably is not willing to be a backup though, Right, 725 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: that's the issue. It's like, that's like a as we 726 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: said a million times, he plays two downs and he 727 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be pulled off the field. That doesn't 728 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: fit into almost any team situation. I've never disagreed within right, 729 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: whereas Frank Gore in a pinch, it starts snowing. You 730 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: can just give him the ball forties several times. You 731 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: can just keep him on the field every down and 732 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: he's not going to complain. He'll play on Thursday, three 733 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 1: days later. Get twenty more heres and there's some value 734 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: in that. Yeah, if you ever have a blizzard, just 735 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: sign him because they'll be sitting out there. Uh, Greg, 736 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: any anybody else on this list or not on this 737 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: list that you you wanted put on. But then he said, oh, 738 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to get like you know, I got 739 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: killed last year with Carlos Hide. I don't want to 740 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: get killed again. Well, I I'm gonna throw out Malcolm 741 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: Mitchell because he's popped up in a report that's came 742 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: out as we were taping here a little breaking news. 743 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: This is not breaking news NFL network. Uh Tom Pella 744 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: Sero breaking some more news lately. I have been seeking 745 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: a potential trade partner for Malcolm Mitchell. Sources that bums 746 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: me out cheap in the whole brand of the breaking new. 747 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: But I think are they breaking that on our site. 748 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna check that right now. They're not even developing it, 749 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: So it's it's lucky it got a post. It got 750 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,479 Speaker 1: a post on the website that says to me that 751 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: he is in danger of not making a team, and 752 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: that's a bummer because they would not have won the 753 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl two years ago without on the as a rookie. 754 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 1: And on the topic of a f c ST wide receivers, 755 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: potentially on the bubble, you wrote about Jermaine Curse of 756 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: the Jets, who a team like the Jet that does 757 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: not have a lot of firepower. Curse is a very 758 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: capable wide receiver. And your wide receiver room has Trrell Prior, 759 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: a guys some upside but cannot stay healthy. And Robby Anderson, 760 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: who's a confirmed knucklehead. Let's be honest. Give me more bodies, 761 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 1: not less bodies. Do not part ways of Jermaine Curse. 762 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: He's probably this he They have four intriguing receivers, but 763 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: he's the safest bet of them. Trope, I would be 764 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: more less surprised to seats are all Prior get cut. 765 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: Do you think he's better? I don't think he's better. 766 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: But this is the guy coming in new class, coming 767 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: off a neck injury, and Curse has been solid that 768 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: that Patriots receiver position is intriguing. I think they like 769 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 1: like Cordrell Patterson is making that team, and they're pretty 770 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: deep there. Kenny Britt might might end up making it 771 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: over over Malcolm Mitchell. I thought maybe on this list 772 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: would be Josh Gordon changes this a little bit, but 773 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't this happened after you wrote it. Corey Coleman, 774 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: I feel like he's come up at He's come up 775 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: over and over in trade whispers, and I don't think 776 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: he's that could have been. I don't. I'm not sure 777 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: he's the hard ist, working player on the roster um. 778 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: I feel like you're going to frame Coleman for like 779 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: type of I would like him. I think it would 780 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: be would be great if he were good. I felt 781 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: the way about Kenny Britt. I don't feel the way 782 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: Kenny Britt, you know, got him in trouble too. It's 783 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: like this guy, come on, Corey Coleman. Enough for this 784 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: guy making a lot of money. That would be bad 785 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: if they are any because because no one of these 786 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: it says more likely to be traded than cuts. But 787 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: who would want him? He could have fit in. I 788 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: guess somebody could take a flyer take First of all, 789 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: like a lot of his issues, A lot of his 790 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: issues have been injury related. Almost all of it, but 791 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: heavily heard some bad Yeah, it's not right. This is 792 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: not Oh, this is Teddy Bridgewater behind the scenes, and 793 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: we just love this kid. It's not like allegedly threatening 794 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: a CoP's wife. Knucklehead behavior. Like my wide receiver, but 795 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: your wide receiver maybe not the best locker room guy. 796 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: You've heard some of that out there a little bit. 797 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: It's out there. I mean marks Mark AMC's a detached 798 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: Browns fan. But bring up Corey Coleman and that's out. 799 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: Get this guy off the team. No, I don't. I 800 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: want him to be good, but it's just like it's 801 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: an incredibly frustrating player, you know, till now. He he 802 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: was taken in the first round a year before Briscade Perriman, 803 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: who is definitely we're back in the back end, was 804 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: drafted before after after Yeah, sorry, he's been in the 805 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: league last and and I saw someone right this it's interesting. 806 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: Braside Pairman might be the biggest first round bust in 807 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: team history, which makes me think you've had a pretty 808 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: good drafting record, and that's true of the of the 809 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: Ravens in the first round. But he is no better 810 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: than number four on the depth chart going into the King. 811 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: He's done nothing in his career at all. He's gotten 812 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: injured a lot too. You still got a vanity r 813 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: R L on that, Frank Gore love for what was 814 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: it Gore? Yeah, sure, it's still sitting there. I would 815 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: say Matt Matt Elam for the Ravens didn't now too well, 816 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 1: that's that's a good call. Oh flag on the play. Sorry, 817 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: this page was not found. They yanked your Frank Frank alright, 818 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: So NFL dot Com slash Frank Gore to really get 819 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: a real deep dive on Greg's I don't know why, 820 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: and Mark, I mean West is just trying to get 821 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: get under my skin or something. I'm not I really 822 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: do think that he belongs on a list of players, 823 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: likely Tobe. He's coming from a real place West, but 824 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: he's enjoying also needly, I I have really I heard 825 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: from someone who looked into his tape. Thought he ran 826 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: a lot better in the league. Thought he ran a 827 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: lot better than the number showed last year. He's solid. 828 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: He's just a backup. He's a solid that can do 829 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. You heard from someone I 830 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: talked to someone in the league. Yeah, this is true, 831 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 1: true story. How many people did you have before you 832 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: got that people analysis. I disagree with this person you 833 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: talked to in the league. I watched the film too, 834 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: and West as a fellow lab rat, that's what we 835 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: call each other. Um, Adrian Peterson deserves a job in 836 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: this league. Yeah right, And I believe and I agree 837 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: he's he's hard to accommodate that rats and labor because 838 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 1: you're not going to sign him to be a backup 839 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: or a construmentary, complementary player. He has to be a 840 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: workhorse in order to be worth having on yours. His 841 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: destiny feels like when Chris Carson gets injured in training 842 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: camp and then they realize where shod Penny was maybe 843 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: not ready to be a first round draft picks, like hey, hey, 844 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, come be the Week one starter for the 845 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. That just fields right, We're days away from 846 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: devastating injury. I was gonna say, as much as you 847 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 1: don't want to say this, this is the nature of 848 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: the game. Two weeks from now, there will be one 849 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: to three running backs that will have blown the ra 850 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 1: c ls. Just don't I'm what do you want me 851 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: to suggests that you're absolutely maybe Whitaker did in the 852 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,720 Speaker 1: first day of O T as this happens. It sucks. 853 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 1: The ligament was not built for the sport, and yet 854 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: it goes on. I would not want to be greg 855 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 1: with all the Seahawks fans, all the twelves about to 856 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: getting his mentions for already writing offer shot Penny Um 857 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: throwing out an example. We will be again. This is 858 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: as training camp. All the teams report to training camp. 859 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: We have reported back to full time duty on the 860 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: podcast three times a week, so you'll hear from us 861 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: again on Wednesday, presented by New Era, and then once 862 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: more on Friday. We're back to three times a week, 863 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: calxciting and yes, the big f an announcement will come 864 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the week. Uh So hang tight 865 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: on that. Uh and I went next on Wednesday will 866 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: be our next video show as well, so uh we'll 867 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: keep an eye out for that at NFL dot com 868 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: slash Rosental. I think it's a t N video e 869 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: t N Live. There you go. All right, let's go this. 870 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 1: Dan had the signing off for a Quiet Storm, the Mailman, 871 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: the old boss, Lindsay fault On behind the glass. Oh 872 00:44:46,360 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: we are back. Let's fly down Wednesday,