WEBVTT - SMNTY Classics: Clue

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Annie.

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<v Speaker 2>And Samantha.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome to Stuff Never Told You, a production by

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. And we're back with another classic that is

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<v Speaker 1>a movie we did a while ago, Clue. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>this was on my mind was because I know Samantha

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<v Speaker 1>is making a horror, a tortured face. Tim Curry. We

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<v Speaker 1>lost Ollie Parton and Tim Curry back to back.

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<v Speaker 2>They were both 80, too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. He's been in so much stuff. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>queer icon because of Rocky Horror Picture Show. And this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't seen when we watched it, but it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a fun... it's like a Halloween vibe, but he just,

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<v Speaker 1>he was so great at embodying. He knew the assignment.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew exactly what the assignment was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was an actor through and through with a gift.

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<v Speaker 2>He could play an evil character. He could play a

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<v Speaker 2>demon character. He could play a musical character, but he played,

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<v Speaker 2>he also understood comedy. And this is in the era,

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<v Speaker 2>like he was with some of the like big hitters

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<v Speaker 2>in this movie. And he was, phenomenal in his comic

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<v Speaker 2>timing and this is one of those movies i grew

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<v Speaker 2>up loving it was one of my favorite movies as

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<v Speaker 2>a child and holds a dear place in my heart

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<v Speaker 2>and my heart hurts but i'm so glad we watched

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<v Speaker 2>this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah i am too i am too you know i

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it in here in this episode but i

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<v Speaker 1>got that ribbon at dragon con i didn't understand And

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<v Speaker 1>you immediately were like, this is Clue. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>watch Clue.

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<v Speaker 2>You must know what this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, and I've said before, jokingly, but the way

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<v Speaker 1>he says pizza in Home Alone 2, he should have

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<v Speaker 1>won an Oscar. The derision in his voice, in that

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<v Speaker 1>one word, it communicates so much.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true. It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. So... Very sad about this news, but please enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>this classic episode. Hey, this is Annie.

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<v Speaker 2>And Samantha.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome to Stuff I Never Told You, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome. And we are doing another classic for our

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<v Speaker 2>feminist movie. Not exactly feminist movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Movie.

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<v Speaker 2>That I will talk about with feminism. Is that how

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I would classify this, and so would a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the listicles that I have found, as a fall classic.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is why we kind of picked one. And

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<v Speaker 2>as we enter 60-degree weather in Georgia, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been wearing a cardigan. I see you're wearing a sweatshirt, Annie. Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that time of year. We decided we would pick

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<v Speaker 2>a fall movie, and we are doing the 1985, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>40-year-old movie, classic, Clue, which we referenced before.

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<v Speaker 1>We did, and you recently helped me solve a mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>of a ribbon I got at Dragon Con at this

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<v Speaker 1>quote I didn't recognize. And you were like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>that is from Clue.

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<v Speaker 2>I immediately knew what it was. And again, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not necessarily a feminist movie at its core.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, there are several things in there that would

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<v Speaker 2>be like, eh, that's really sexist. However, there are some

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<v Speaker 2>good bits to.

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<v Speaker 1>It, including.

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<v Speaker 2>The comedy genius from the likes of Madeline Kahn, who portrays,

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<v Speaker 2>in the iconic line you're talking about, this dark, foreboding widow, Mrs. White.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it's empowering, for sure. Even Miss Scarlet's character.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think that there may have been some queer

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<v Speaker 2>awakenings through this movie. Because there were moments that I

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<v Speaker 2>had some feelings. I was like, wait. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily qualify myself as queer because... But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, that's sexy. You know, like, I remember

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<v Speaker 2>those scenes as sexy, even though they're not really sexy,

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<v Speaker 2>because of Miss Scarlet, specifically, more than anybody else. All

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<v Speaker 2>of that to say, yes, I think her lines were

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<v Speaker 2>always delivered with quick, dry wit outside, again, of the flames,

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<v Speaker 2>the flames. But that was purposeful, comedic timing. And we

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<v Speaker 2>love it. Yes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you play Clue growing up?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes. That was one of my favorite games. I

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<v Speaker 2>played by myself, actually. Did you have a character?

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<v Speaker 1>I do sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Miss White. I was Miss White all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Miss White.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though in the game she's portrayed as the maid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's like the very kind of matronly, on the

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<v Speaker 1>box cover at least.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I went with Miss Peacock usually.

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<v Speaker 2>She was the matronly one to me. Mrs.

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<v Speaker 1>Peacock. I think I just liked her... Her outfit. It

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<v Speaker 1>was purely aesthetic.

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<v Speaker 2>I did find it funny that they referenced it in

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<v Speaker 2>the movie as colors for like coding rather than the

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<v Speaker 2>actual colors they wore, which happens in the game. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>moving on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to go ahead and jump right into

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<v Speaker 2>this because I want to talk about it. about things

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<v Speaker 2>things that i didn't catch on as a kid versus

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<v Speaker 2>today and the way that i yes it's more sexist

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<v Speaker 2>than some but not as bad as you would think

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<v Speaker 2>there is some little bit like anti-queer but not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>anti-queer just more confusing yeah it holds up pretty well

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<v Speaker 2>and i feel like it's kind of interesting how they

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<v Speaker 2>portray socialism anyway going on so This movie is based

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<v Speaker 2>off of the successful 1943 board game Clue, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a who, with what, and where murder mystery featuring the

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<v Speaker 2>characters of Colonel Mustard, Mr. Green, Mrs. Peacock, Ms. Scarlet, Ms. White,

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<v Speaker 2>and Professor Plum. Apparently, this was a game that was

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<v Speaker 2>by a British creator. But the movie decided they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do all those political views and so placed it

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<v Speaker 2>in New England in the 1950s. So this is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the differences here. This group is led by Butler Wadsworth,

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<v Speaker 2>played by the amazing Tim Curry, who was apparently a

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<v Speaker 2>third choice.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, to play that character. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The crew, they are all invited to a mansion under

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<v Speaker 2>mysterious circumstances, each receiving a letter with an alias, as

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<v Speaker 2>these names are not their real names, even though they

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<v Speaker 2>adapted them very quickly, by the way. They receive invitations

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<v Speaker 2>to a not-so-exciting dinner party. Yes. I will say, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like Knives Out was like an ode to that

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. This was very much like, you know, murder mystery

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<v Speaker 1>games you play and you like listen to the tape

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<v Speaker 1>yes yes now you figured this out yeah well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah i was gonna ask because i did i

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<v Speaker 2>buy you a star wars clue game or did i

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<v Speaker 2>see one and think i should buy that for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe you bought one somebody bought one for.

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<v Speaker 2>Me i think i bought it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes i have a lot of versions of glue do

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<v Speaker 1>you have you played it I have opened it up

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<v Speaker 1>and looked at it because I'm always really interested. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever played like Clue and another property, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because it'll be like, I don't know. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Han Solo and the Millennium Falcon with a blaster. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, Han Solo killed this person. Like it could

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>This doesn't match. Oh, BT-dubs. Did you know that Carrie

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<v Speaker 2>Fisher was initially supposed to play Miss Scarlet?

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>But she ended up going to rehab. Oh. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess good for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for her. But also, huh, that would have been

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting couple. Anyway, going back, y'all are everywhere already.

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<v Speaker 2>And as they come together, we meet the cook, the maid, Yvette,

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<v Speaker 2>and again, Wadsworth, the butler that buttles, so he says.

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<v Speaker 2>We find out they all are from D.C. and have

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<v Speaker 2>some type of secret. After a lovely dinner of monkey's brains,

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<v Speaker 2>which we later find out that's what it is, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's Mrs. Peacock's favorite, We have the arrival of the

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<v Speaker 2>main guest, Mr. Body. They are then ushered into the

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<v Speaker 2>parlor for some cognac and revelations. Turns out all of

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<v Speaker 2>them are being blackmailed for different things, and Mr. Body

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<v Speaker 2>is the one who's behind it all. What? Wadsworth advises

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<v Speaker 2>that the police have been called, and they should all

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<v Speaker 2>report Mr. Body, that he has all this evidence, and

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't report him, that he will just hand

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<v Speaker 2>over those evidence anyway. Hmm. But Mr. Body isn't having that. Oh, no.

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<v Speaker 2>After a short-lived attempt to flee the premises, he comes

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<v Speaker 2>back with gifts for the guests. A candlestick, a wrench,

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<v Speaker 2>a pipe, which, by the way, that would be a

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<v Speaker 2>really disappointing gift, a rope and a revolver. After handing

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<v Speaker 2>out these gifts, he gives an alternative to Wadsworth's plans,

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<v Speaker 2>kill Wadsworth, and everyone walks away. He turns off the light,

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<v Speaker 2>and we hear a gun go off and a scream.

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<v Speaker 2>Several screams, I think. When the lights are turned back on,

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<v Speaker 2>we see Mr. Body lying on the floor, who Professor

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<v Speaker 2>Plumb declares is dead. And by the way, he is

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<v Speaker 2>a psychiatrist, so he's supposed to be a doctor as well,

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<v Speaker 2>but no longer practicing, which is why he's being blackmailed. Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>The panic sets in and everyone is acting confused. Who

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<v Speaker 2>did this? As it turns out, the bullet actually missed Mr.

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<v Speaker 2>Body and was probably not the cause of death. confusion.

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<v Speaker 2>Wadsworth then reveals this was his plan, getting them all

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<v Speaker 2>together all along, and that his wife had been a

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<v Speaker 2>victim of Mr. Boddy's blackmail as well. She was a

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<v Speaker 2>socialist and had been forced to work for him for

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<v Speaker 2>free until she died by suicide. So with all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>they go on to try to figure out what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>How did he die? At one point, they think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there's poison in the cognac. which causes Yvette to scream,

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<v Speaker 2>who has been listening to the wiretap that's been in

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<v Speaker 2>that room and been recording from a different room, the billiard,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe. And so they all retrieve her from the

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<v Speaker 2>billiard room, and they come back together to the parlor

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<v Speaker 2>so they can discuss what is happening, finding that Mr.

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<v Speaker 2>Body's body is missing! Where's Mr. Body's body? After trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what might have happened, they soon discover

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<v Speaker 2>the cook's body in the refrigerator with a knife to

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<v Speaker 2>her back. They decided to lock away all those weapons

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<v Speaker 2>and throw away the key, but as they try, they

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<v Speaker 2>are met at the door with another guest, a motorist,

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<v Speaker 2>who they decide to lock into another room because, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they got things to do. Oh, and they rediscovered Mr.

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<v Speaker 2>Boddy's body with fresh wounds on his head, and they

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<v Speaker 2>are for sure now that he is dead. No, he

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<v Speaker 2>really is dead. His eyes are open and everything. So

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<v Speaker 2>they drag him back into the parlor along with the

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<v Speaker 2>cook's body. They decide they must go through the house

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<v Speaker 2>to see if there's any possible other guests hiding who

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<v Speaker 2>was killing everyone. So they pair off. The matchstick scene

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<v Speaker 2>sticks with me so clearly. I don't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the sound of them cutting the matches, but I

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<v Speaker 2>remember that scene very clearly. So with that, they all

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<v Speaker 2>pair off. They all go to search the homes assigned

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<v Speaker 2>to different floors or areas. Later, they discover the motorist

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<v Speaker 2>has been killed and they are again met at the

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<v Speaker 2>door with another visitor. But they've actually supposedly thrown away

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<v Speaker 2>the keys at this point. This time it's a cop.

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<v Speaker 2>who they let in, but then they decided to lock

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<v Speaker 2>in a room as well. Very suspicious. Very suspicious. Surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>He is also killed, but this is after he goes

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<v Speaker 2>around and does a whole look-see of the house and

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<v Speaker 2>answers a phone call. That turns out, like, J. Edgar

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<v Speaker 2>Hoover is trying to find somebody in that house, you know. But,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he dies later on. We then hear the

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<v Speaker 2>door again, and it's a singing telegram, and she's shot. Bang.

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<v Speaker 1>Immediately. Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember the, you know, you're singing Telegram. Like

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<v Speaker 2>that just that sits in my head forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And soon they all come back together and Wadsworth announces

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<v Speaker 2>that he knows what has happened. Who has done this?

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<v Speaker 2>Turns out all the guests outside of the main six

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<v Speaker 2>were informants of Mr. Body and had connections with the

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<v Speaker 2>main six and had been lured there for that very reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Several scenarios are shown in the movie, but the true

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<v Speaker 2>end is that everyone murdered everyone. And Wadsworth is actually Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Body.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and Mr. Green just kills Mr. Body because he

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<v Speaker 2>was actually the FBI informant, and he was the one

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<v Speaker 2>that was supposed to get that call from Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Hoover.

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<v Speaker 2>But, you know, Wadsworth was the one that took the call.

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<v Speaker 2>And he ends up killing Mr. Body. He goes home

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<v Speaker 2>to sleep with his wife because his secret was that

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<v Speaker 2>he was gay. But he wasn't gay. Yeah. End of story. So,

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<v Speaker 2>first and foremost, Annie, this was your first viewing. What

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<v Speaker 2>did you think of this movie? Did you figure out

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<v Speaker 2>the mystery?

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really interesting because... You know, when a movie

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<v Speaker 1>is so popular, like you get pieces of it, whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not you've seen it. Right. And so I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>we'll probably talk about this a little bit more later,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are tropes in the game. The butler's the killer. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all of those kind of, here's your sexy

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<v Speaker 1>femme fatale. So you did it. Like all of these

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<v Speaker 1>different tropes. So I didn't anticipate... the ending gag where

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<v Speaker 1>they have like three fake endings yeah so i was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely like i don't know what's true what's not what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on here but i did really enjoy it i

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<v Speaker 1>liked um it does have a very i was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about this today because um Only Murders in the Building

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<v Speaker 1>came back today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And they like the kind of that murder. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there kind of a thing as cozy murder mystery now?

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it has like, you know, it's raining outside. It's storming.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in this big mansion. The costumes are great. The

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<v Speaker 1>background is great.

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<v Speaker 2>The music is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It just is very visually appealing and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like it makes you want to, at least me, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'll curl up in this blanket, try to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out. Yeah, exactly. Try to figure out what this is.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I did not figure it out. I was

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious of pretty much everybody, but I will say Tim Curry.

0:15:26.990 --> 0:15:29.220
<v Speaker 1>I was suspicious of Tim Curry.

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<v Speaker 2>He's always suspicious in every show he's ever in. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just be real honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the ending was an ode to how the game

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<v Speaker 2>has different endings and scenarios. Again, how it could have

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<v Speaker 2>happened is the first scenario with Miss Scarlet killing everyone

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<v Speaker 2>with the assistance of a vet who had helped her

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<v Speaker 2>and was a former employee of hers. That's her connection.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we have, she also had a connection with

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<v Speaker 2>a cop who she paid off. And then we had

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<v Speaker 2>Wadsworth work for the FBI. How about this? Instead was

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<v Speaker 2>Peacock killing everyone, which was kind of like the most

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<v Speaker 2>random scenario I felt like, especially like how is she

0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.440
<v Speaker 2>going to choke somebody? Like she doesn't have the body strength. OK,

0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.900
<v Speaker 2>whatever you do you. And then here's what really happened

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<v Speaker 2>with everyone killing their connected person, except for Professor Plum,

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<v Speaker 2>who kills a body person. And Wadsworth killing the singing

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<v Speaker 2>telegram woman. They do have a connection, but don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a connection type of thing. So it was very interesting

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<v Speaker 2>in that. I know when it was originally released, different

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<v Speaker 2>theaters got different endings. They didn't get the all three.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched it on VHS. Goes, yes, baby. I'm that old.

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<v Speaker 2>We rented a VCR from Curtis Mathis with the movie

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<v Speaker 2>because we did not have a VCR. We were not

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<v Speaker 2>rich like that. And I got to watch that movie

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<v Speaker 2>and I loved it. This is an ode to slapsticks,

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<v Speaker 2>even though to me, 1980s, 1970s, lots of slapstick. And

0:16:55.220 --> 0:16:58.080
<v Speaker 2>that was kind of one of the best parts of comedy.

0:16:58.850 --> 0:17:00.990
<v Speaker 2>I miss some of that. I'm not going to lie,

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<v Speaker 2>but it made me laugh hysterically. The way that Mr.

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<v Speaker 2>Green just gets bobbled about.

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<v Speaker 1>Everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Like as a scenario as being Mr. Body, I love

0:17:10.710 --> 0:17:13.910
<v Speaker 2>those slapstick comedies. And this was one of those. And

0:17:13.950 --> 0:17:18.210
<v Speaker 2>it made me laugh every time, every time. And you

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<v Speaker 2>will hear me, like I told my partner, he was

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<v Speaker 2>watching it with me, part of it with me last

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<v Speaker 2>night in which they were like, you know, to make

0:17:25.210 --> 0:17:27.909
<v Speaker 2>a long story short and everybody's like too late. I

0:17:27.950 --> 0:17:31.930
<v Speaker 2>do that to him because of this movie. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>probably like, what? And he didn't understand where that came from,

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<v Speaker 2>but I still cannot help myself because every time I

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<v Speaker 2>hear someone say that, that's the line I think of next.

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<v Speaker 2>So there are so many things to that. This quip

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<v Speaker 2>is such a funny level of comedy, the wit, the humor,

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<v Speaker 2>the back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it as a kid. So all of that

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<v Speaker 2>to say this is kind of what it reminisces of.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also, again, like I said, Because we're not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily doing a lot of themes, because I think that

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<v Speaker 2>themes are fairly... It's not, like, because of its dark

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<v Speaker 2>humor element with a very over-the-top rhetoric, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's fairly obvious. You can tell me if you're wrong

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<v Speaker 2>and you have some themes that you want to talk about, Annie,

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<v Speaker 2>our listeners. But, like, one of the things I did

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<v Speaker 2>love about the movie is that women held their own

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<v Speaker 2>in this movie. They were more memorable characters than the

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<v Speaker 2>men to me outside of Tim Curry. Like, they... did

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<v Speaker 2>such an amazing job in their portrayal. I will say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>probably the least in the women is Mrs. Peacock. But, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Leslie Ann Warren's voice as Miss Scarlet. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember her line of saying, who are you? Perry Mason? Like,

0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:49.820
<v Speaker 2>that line, which, by the way, made me laugh because

0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Perry Mason wasn't existing in the 1950s, I

0:18:52.420 --> 0:18:58.890
<v Speaker 2>don't think. But, like, she was, like, that person. And obviously, again...

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite would be Miss White. So, like, for me,

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<v Speaker 2>Miss Scarlet is the femme fatale. But in the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>she's an unapologetic sex worker. Like, and a madam. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>she does what she does and knows everybody's secrets. It's like, eh.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my job, and I know what you did,

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<v Speaker 2>so you have no room to judge me, like type

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<v Speaker 2>of conversation. Here's a quote from CleoJournal.com. They write, quote, Ms. Scarlett,

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<v Speaker 2>who proudly outs herself as a Washington madam, seems to

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<v Speaker 2>have found one of the few direct routes to power

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<v Speaker 2>for a woman in the 1950s America, selling sex. Cheerfully

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<v Speaker 2>impervious to the evening's bourgeoisie code of conduct, she is

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<v Speaker 2>the only character who appears to be enjoying herself, delivering

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<v Speaker 2>a stream of maywest-like wisecracks throughout the evening. This is

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<v Speaker 2>an example. Professor Plum, I am a doctor, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't practice. Miss Scarlet, practice makes perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>most men could use a little practice don't you it's

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<v Speaker 2>a great line and he's been sexually harassing her the

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<v Speaker 2>entire time yeah like but she stands like she's so

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<v Speaker 2>used to it she's like and then we have miss

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<v Speaker 2>white the dark and mysterious widow who comes off as

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<v Speaker 2>unapologetic and ready with vengeance With another wonderful quote, she says, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>just the five husbands. Husbands should be like Kleenex, soft, strong,

0:20:15.700 --> 0:20:22.240
<v Speaker 2>and disposable. I'm like, yeah, okay. I enjoyed that. And

0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:26.350
<v Speaker 2>note here that the only ad-lib in this movie the

0:20:26.430 --> 0:20:30.210
<v Speaker 2>entire time was her line, which she says, Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>did it. I killed a vet. I hated her so much. It,

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<v Speaker 2>the flames, flames, flames on the side of my face.

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.429
<v Speaker 2>The breathing, breathing, breathing, heavy breathing, heavy breathing. And then

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<v Speaker 2>that's it. It's so wonderful. Her acting, that was one

0:20:49.300 --> 0:20:52.580
<v Speaker 2>of the most iconic. And then the cutaway to Colonel

0:20:52.619 --> 0:20:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Mustard going, what? It's comedic genius. Like, I don't know why,

0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:00.379
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's, like, one of the top five

0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:05.770
<v Speaker 2>comedic timings that I will remember. For all my users, like, genius.

0:21:07.130 --> 0:21:09.050
<v Speaker 2>Because they let her do it. And they realized how

0:21:09.109 --> 0:21:12.490
<v Speaker 2>amazing this was. But, like, those moments like that really, like,

0:21:14.810 --> 0:21:17.630
<v Speaker 2>things that I remember, again, going back to Miss Scarlet

0:21:17.710 --> 0:21:21.470
<v Speaker 2>being her, like, very, like, booby, but green dress, like,

0:21:21.990 --> 0:21:28.660
<v Speaker 2>iconic self, having her high-pitched laugh. Like, it just made

0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:32.199
<v Speaker 2>her character to me, even though she wasn't wearing a

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<v Speaker 2>Scarlet dress.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that threw me, too. That threw me, too. Because

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<v Speaker 1>in the game, if some of you listeners have somehow

0:21:40.890 --> 0:21:45.530
<v Speaker 1>never played this game, it's very color-coded and, like, Mrs.

0:21:45.810 --> 0:21:51.129
<v Speaker 1>Colonel Mustard is in yellow. Scarlet is in scarlet. Like, yeah,

0:21:51.170 --> 0:21:54.170
<v Speaker 1>they were, I think you're right in that the women

0:21:54.210 --> 0:21:59.070
<v Speaker 1>were much more memorable than the men. And they had better,

0:21:59.090 --> 0:22:04.129
<v Speaker 1>I thought they had better line deliveries. And just in general,

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<v Speaker 1>they had more presence. And it was interesting to me

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<v Speaker 1>because that, I mean, Clue, the game, is very much

0:22:12.170 --> 0:22:15.159
<v Speaker 1>playing to tropes. And this movie, like, heightened it it

0:22:15.180 --> 0:22:18.910
<v Speaker 1>was like oh you think here's your sexy french maid

0:22:19.250 --> 0:22:22.290
<v Speaker 1>and all of this but they were doing it very

0:22:22.350 --> 0:22:28.020
<v Speaker 1>comedically but while also saying like yeah miss scarlet is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to stand for your nonsense miss white might

0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.700
<v Speaker 1>kill you they i love how they gave like every

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>character a very this is what I love about a

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:41.620
<v Speaker 1>good mystery, a very plausible, like, I can see her

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. I can see it being her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. I mean, they definitely do a great job in

0:22:47.859 --> 0:22:52.640
<v Speaker 2>giving each character their own backstory without even having too

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<v Speaker 2>much of a backstory.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:22:55.180 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 2>At the beginning. You're seeing them as they're presented and

0:22:58.100 --> 0:22:59.699
<v Speaker 2>you're like, okay, you know who this is. You know

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<v Speaker 2>who this is. Yeah. And again, the men are not

0:23:02.100 --> 0:23:02.600
<v Speaker 2>as memorable.

0:23:03.340 --> 0:23:04.739
<v Speaker 1>No. They really aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought about how many games, board games that have

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<v Speaker 2>been turned into movies. Like we've seen many video games,

0:23:22.180 --> 0:23:24.950
<v Speaker 2>which sometimes they don't work. The number one was Last

0:23:25.010 --> 0:23:26.750
<v Speaker 2>of Us, if you needed to know. That was the best.

0:23:27.510 --> 0:23:29.590
<v Speaker 2>Clue is always in the top five. It's not number

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<v Speaker 2>one for the board game editions or renditions. And the

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<v Speaker 2>top five with that is Jumanji. Hello, Ouija. Which, by

0:23:36.580 --> 0:23:38.179
<v Speaker 2>the way, Jumanji is not a real game. So it's

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.020
<v Speaker 2>kind of like one of those things like based on

0:23:40.060 --> 0:23:41.680
<v Speaker 2>board game, but it's not a real game.

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:44.380
<v Speaker 1>It didn't exist before. But it came out after.

0:23:44.540 --> 0:23:48.270
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. That's what I'm saying. It wasn't the original game. Ouija,

0:23:48.570 --> 0:23:51.450
<v Speaker 2>it does have a lot of horror, obviously, behind that.

0:23:51.530 --> 0:23:53.490
<v Speaker 2>And then they said Dungeons &amp; Dragons, and I'm like,

0:23:53.530 --> 0:23:54.070
<v Speaker 2>is that.

0:23:53.850 --> 0:23:56.970
<v Speaker 1>Really a board game? Tabletop game, I would say.

0:23:56.990 --> 0:23:59.090
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but not a board game. But you know what?

0:23:59.210 --> 0:23:59.730
<v Speaker 1>I'll allow it.

0:23:59.810 --> 0:24:02.010
<v Speaker 2>I'll allow it. So it did bring that in, but

0:24:02.030 --> 0:24:04.330
<v Speaker 2>they did have one of the best adaptations to that.

0:24:05.470 --> 0:24:08.729
<v Speaker 2>And I think because maybe there's not a lot of games.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you turn life into a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's plenty of them that I'm like, I'm not sure...

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<v Speaker 1>What's the new one that Margot Robbie's going to be in?

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:21.139
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I just know Weathering Heights, but that's a book.

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.879
<v Speaker 1>No, it's a board game adaption. I can't remember what

0:24:26.980 --> 0:24:29.930
<v Speaker 1>it is. But I was like, huh. All right.

0:24:30.490 --> 0:24:31.109
<v Speaker 2>Someone tell them.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, sorry. Yeah, it's not sorry, but, you know, I

0:24:35.980 --> 0:24:37.340
<v Speaker 1>would be surprised.

0:24:37.500 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so it is interesting to see that. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also wondered about like the murder mystery concept, because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is kind of in tune with

0:24:46.310 --> 0:24:48.629
<v Speaker 2>all that. The whodunits and we got to figure it out.

0:24:48.670 --> 0:24:50.510
<v Speaker 2>We can't leave this house until we find the killer

0:24:50.530 --> 0:24:54.730
<v Speaker 2>type of conversation. And many attribute the murder mystery dinner

0:24:54.770 --> 0:24:58.340
<v Speaker 2>shows to be from the 1940s, 1950s. But then it

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:01.580
<v Speaker 2>evolved in the 80s, involving audience members. Have you ever

0:25:01.619 --> 0:25:02.020
<v Speaker 2>done one of.

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<v Speaker 1>Those, Amy? I played a game. I've never gone to

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<v Speaker 1>an event space and done it.

0:25:07.850 --> 0:25:09.189
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I haven't either. Yeah.

0:25:09.330 --> 0:25:10.889
<v Speaker 1>I have a friend who did, and it sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>it went disastrously. I don't think that reflects.

0:25:13.210 --> 0:25:17.330
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get control what the audience is going to do. Yeah.

0:25:17.810 --> 0:25:19.070
<v Speaker 2>Which seems kind of like.

0:25:20.130 --> 0:25:21.470
<v Speaker 1>It's a roll of the dice.

0:25:22.050 --> 0:25:24.730
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I know I've seen people do it at home

0:25:24.830 --> 0:25:26.790
<v Speaker 2>with their friends so they know them well enough and

0:25:26.830 --> 0:25:29.430
<v Speaker 2>give them character display, right? That's a thing. So you've

0:25:29.450 --> 0:25:29.950
<v Speaker 2>done that?

0:25:30.250 --> 0:25:34.510
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I have. I have one. it is like a,

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.379
<v Speaker 1>it's a masquerade that went wrong. And it's on a train,

0:25:38.420 --> 0:25:41.310
<v Speaker 1>of course, you know. Yeah.

0:25:41.350 --> 0:25:44.830
<v Speaker 2>On the train. Like, obviously, The Office has an infamous episode. Yeah.

0:25:45.430 --> 0:25:46.449
<v Speaker 1>I do declare.

0:25:46.470 --> 0:25:51.770
<v Speaker 2>I do declare. Yeah. I didn't do it. I do

0:25:51.810 --> 0:25:55.110
<v Speaker 2>not have that accent. Anyway, but I do think like

0:25:55.250 --> 0:25:57.710
<v Speaker 2>when we talk about like movies like Knives Out and

0:25:57.750 --> 0:26:00.870
<v Speaker 2>those types of movies, like it kind of is reminiscent

0:26:00.890 --> 0:26:04.110
<v Speaker 2>to Clue as well. The board game versus also like

0:26:04.190 --> 0:26:09.409
<v Speaker 2>these movies that have some iconic moments. Again, the one

0:26:09.490 --> 0:26:13.300
<v Speaker 2>thing that the Knives Out was more serious. And also

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:14.220
<v Speaker 2>they left the house.

0:26:16.180 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, but that is a thing about a

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.470
<v Speaker 1>lot of these murdered people. mystery stories is they usually

0:26:21.510 --> 0:26:25.629
<v Speaker 1>have one space where they're generally confined i would say

0:26:25.670 --> 0:26:28.189
<v Speaker 1>in knives out they were confined by the will so

0:26:28.250 --> 0:26:30.699
<v Speaker 1>even if they could leave the house the second one

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.980
<v Speaker 1>the second one they were confined on the island but

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 1>the murder happened outside of yes and then they come

0:26:37.380 --> 0:26:41.260
<v Speaker 1>back and then was there more murder Murder. There was

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 1>attempted murder.

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Murder. That's right.

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:46.119
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:26:46.140 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Right. And I really thought that was interesting. And we

0:26:47.530 --> 0:26:50.350
<v Speaker 2>could talk about murder mystery concepts in general because of that. Like,

0:26:50.450 --> 0:26:52.590
<v Speaker 2>also Shakespeare in the Tavern type of thing. Like, this

0:26:52.650 --> 0:26:55.770
<v Speaker 2>level of conversation. But that's, again. But, of course, we

0:26:55.810 --> 0:26:59.630
<v Speaker 2>couldn't go beyond this without the politics of Clue. Like,

0:26:59.670 --> 0:27:02.869
<v Speaker 2>they really wanted to have that Red Scare, the McCarthy

0:27:02.950 --> 0:27:07.290
<v Speaker 2>era type of conversation in here. And they actually portray...

0:27:07.710 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't tell. You can't tell what they're saying necessarily.

0:27:10.740 --> 0:27:12.420
<v Speaker 2>And this was done in the 80s once again. So

0:27:13.050 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 2>right outside of still Cold War times. level of what's

0:27:16.980 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 2>going down, you know? So it was interesting to see

0:27:20.300 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 2>when they talked about, like, she was a socialist. And

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:26.180
<v Speaker 2>then it came down to, you're a communist. She's like, no,

0:27:26.340 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm the purest form of capitalism, which is, I feel

0:27:29.540 --> 0:27:32.209
<v Speaker 2>like a conversation today of, like, the mixture. You're like, no,

0:27:32.270 --> 0:27:36.050
<v Speaker 2>we're leaning to communism, but you think that it's, like,

0:27:36.090 --> 0:27:39.310
<v Speaker 2>also our capitalist is turning into communism, and you're not

0:27:39.390 --> 0:27:41.830
<v Speaker 2>realizing what's happening, and you think communism is just socialism,

0:27:41.869 --> 0:27:49.030
<v Speaker 2>and that's not what's happening. We're having a dictatorship in communism. Back. Okay.

0:27:49.130 --> 0:27:50.820
<v Speaker 2>But all of that to say is they have that

0:27:50.859 --> 0:27:53.620
<v Speaker 2>conversation in here. I will say there are so many

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:57.980
<v Speaker 2>jokes in there that I did not understand as a 10, 12-year-old.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:02.100
<v Speaker 2>Was it like, red herring? What does that mean? I

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 2>had to look that up not too long ago, to

0:28:03.619 --> 0:28:04.060
<v Speaker 2>be honest.

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:10.479
<v Speaker 1>I knew about that because of another mystery book, and

0:28:10.500 --> 0:28:13.100
<v Speaker 1>it was a clue, and I was like, ah, red herring.

0:28:13.820 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 2>It's just a red herring but it was interesting to

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.740
<v Speaker 2>see them bring that as a part of that conversation

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 2>which you don't have obviously in the game there's no

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:28.170
<v Speaker 2>real reason yeah there's no back there's no plot to

0:28:28.230 --> 0:28:30.310
<v Speaker 2>it you just get murdered and you have to get like.

0:28:31.630 --> 0:28:34.490
<v Speaker 1>Right well and you know that would be an interesting

0:28:34.570 --> 0:28:36.580
<v Speaker 1>exercise me and my friends used to do this where

0:28:36.619 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>we would try to describe why they did it.

0:28:38.900 --> 0:28:41.940
<v Speaker 2>Or really you would go that far Yeah.

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Sometimes. Especially if you get, again, like, I have, like,

0:28:46.700 --> 0:28:48.940
<v Speaker 1>a What We Do in the Shadows one. You know.

0:28:49.700 --> 0:28:51.860
<v Speaker 1>You know these characters, so you can try to describe, like,

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:55.300
<v Speaker 1>why in the world would they have done this?

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:59.469
<v Speaker 2>Well, now I needed you to play Star Wars to

0:28:59.490 --> 0:29:00.390
<v Speaker 2>see the backstory.

0:29:00.410 --> 0:29:02.750
<v Speaker 1>Oh, my gosh. I would.

0:29:02.770 --> 0:29:05.650
<v Speaker 2>Because you're supposed to know... Who gets murdered in that one?

0:29:06.610 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if anyone gets murdered. So... Some of

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:11.500
<v Speaker 1>the newer ones do this thing where, like, in what

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:16.460
<v Speaker 1>we do in the shadows one, the cursed hat goes missing. Oh.

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.300
<v Speaker 1>I feel like in the Star Wars one, it was

0:29:19.340 --> 0:29:22.350
<v Speaker 1>something like that, too. It wasn't murder, but.

0:29:22.870 --> 0:29:23.370
<v Speaker 2>Oh, look.

0:29:23.550 --> 0:29:25.210
<v Speaker 1>Oh, now I've got a good excuse to.

0:29:25.250 --> 0:29:27.690
<v Speaker 2>You have to look it up for me. Yeah. Now

0:29:27.710 --> 0:29:29.490
<v Speaker 2>that I think about it, I remember I also had

0:29:29.530 --> 0:29:34.070
<v Speaker 2>a 3D clue and it was a museum. And I

0:29:34.110 --> 0:29:38.330
<v Speaker 2>think they were finding certain artwork. Yeah.

0:29:39.450 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. it's been a long time i have to say

0:29:43.300 --> 0:29:46.620
<v Speaker 1>you know i hate to bring it up but and

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.060
<v Speaker 1>i had the harry potter clue and that one it

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>was murder and i always thought that was kind of

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:53.180
<v Speaker 1>pretty dark for.

0:29:52.700 --> 0:29:56.900
<v Speaker 2>Uh wait was it like harry potter murdered somebody.

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>It was like a bunch of Death Eaters. But one

0:30:00.300 --> 0:30:03.510
<v Speaker 1>time I played it when Jenny got murdered. And I

0:30:03.530 --> 0:30:09.050
<v Speaker 1>was like, holy heck. This is really dark.

0:30:10.690 --> 0:30:11.430
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my stars.

0:30:11.450 --> 0:30:15.510
<v Speaker 1>Poor Jenny. So maybe they moved on. Maybe they're trying

0:30:15.530 --> 0:30:17.390
<v Speaker 1>to make ones now that are less about murder.

0:30:17.490 --> 0:30:20.290
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I would love to see what a

0:30:20.370 --> 0:30:22.230
<v Speaker 2>remake of this would look like today.

0:30:22.250 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>It would be interesting. Because again, it is... They're trying

0:30:28.510 --> 0:30:30.310
<v Speaker 1>to make you think like everybody could have done it.

0:30:30.610 --> 0:30:30.770
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:30:30.790 --> 0:30:32.950
<v Speaker 1>And at the time, you know, you have this like

0:30:33.250 --> 0:30:35.890
<v Speaker 1>the Red Scare and communism. You have this character who's

0:30:35.970 --> 0:30:38.790
<v Speaker 1>gay and is like, and then not gay. But they

0:30:38.810 --> 0:30:41.550
<v Speaker 1>were trying to be like, it's him. So it would

0:30:41.610 --> 0:30:42.230
<v Speaker 1>be interesting.

0:30:42.370 --> 0:30:43.710
<v Speaker 2>It was one of those funny moments where I was like,

0:30:43.730 --> 0:30:45.650
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not ashamed of that. But I don't want

0:30:45.670 --> 0:30:49.410
<v Speaker 2>to be fired, which could be still very much today.

0:30:50.070 --> 0:30:50.530
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:30:50.570 --> 0:30:53.750
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about that. Like, it would not be

0:30:53.790 --> 0:31:00.430
<v Speaker 2>that hard because communism is still a threat. Supposedly. Socialism

0:31:00.450 --> 0:31:01.230
<v Speaker 2>is a threat.

0:31:03.290 --> 0:31:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It would be interesting. I'm sure there's probably been

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.980
<v Speaker 1>talks about remaking it. Oh, there is, actually.

0:31:11.140 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 2>So I just pulled it up. So in 2024, there

0:31:14.220 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 2>was a conversation of Sony taking it. But it would

0:31:20.420 --> 0:31:21.810
<v Speaker 2>be not like the film.

0:31:24.110 --> 0:31:24.270
<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

0:31:25.770 --> 0:31:26.910
<v Speaker 2>It would be more like the game.

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Again.

0:31:27.700 --> 0:31:31.870
<v Speaker 2>And they've been trying, it says.

0:31:33.050 --> 0:31:36.530
<v Speaker 1>I could see it being like a four-episode Netflix series

0:31:36.590 --> 0:31:38.470
<v Speaker 1>or something. I don't know.

0:31:38.490 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>So apparently Ryan Reynolds and Jason Bateman tried to get

0:31:44.020 --> 0:31:50.620
<v Speaker 2>onto it with The Muppets. That's not what I was expecting.

0:31:50.660 --> 0:31:53.340
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I read that right. Okay, y'all

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 2>tell me because I'm like, wait, what? But yeah, it

0:31:57.580 --> 0:32:00.380
<v Speaker 2>would be interesting. So there was a conversation about how

0:32:01.060 --> 0:32:05.140
<v Speaker 2>when they had some interviews in between, like for anniversaries

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.100
<v Speaker 2>of Clue, Tim Curry had had a stroke and was

0:32:08.140 --> 0:32:10.100
<v Speaker 2>not able to participate, but was able to come back

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.660
<v Speaker 2>later to participate and talk about his memories of it,

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 2>which I was really glad was able to happen. Because

0:32:15.500 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>that would have made me sad. Because Tim Curry was

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>pretty iconic in this whole era. I feel like he

0:32:22.140 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 2>was 80s, 70s champion, to be honest. Between that, Rocky Horror,

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.140
<v Speaker 2>for me, Legend, and so much more.

0:32:31.590 --> 0:32:33.750
<v Speaker 1>He's pretty iconic in most of his roles.

0:32:34.150 --> 0:32:35.890
<v Speaker 2>Oh, and by the way, that's what it was. I

0:32:36.130 --> 0:32:42.580
<v Speaker 2>saw someone cross... Crossing Rocky Horror with Legend in their cosplay.

0:32:42.700 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>It was beautiful. It was like Tim Curry for both

0:32:45.980 --> 0:32:46.900
<v Speaker 2>of those as one.

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

0:32:48.660 --> 0:32:50.310
<v Speaker 2>It was an amazing one. I forgot about that until

0:32:50.370 --> 0:32:52.110
<v Speaker 2>just now because I was like, oh my God, I

0:32:52.130 --> 0:32:52.650
<v Speaker 2>get that.

0:32:53.010 --> 0:32:53.670
<v Speaker 1>I get that.

0:32:53.690 --> 0:32:57.070
<v Speaker 2>I don't think many people would because they don't remember Legend.

0:32:58.690 --> 0:33:02.690
<v Speaker 1>You'd be surprised. A Dragon Con, I don't know. A

0:33:02.730 --> 0:33:04.170
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, me and a whole group of

0:33:04.190 --> 0:33:06.220
<v Speaker 1>friends tried to just go as a bunch of different

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:09.620
<v Speaker 1>Tim Currys. Really? It didn't work out, but I still

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:10.660
<v Speaker 1>think that's a great idea.

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.940
<v Speaker 2>Somebody goes as a butler, somebody goes as... And then

0:33:14.220 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 2>he was a horrible character in Criminal Minds. Oh, no.

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:22.820
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'd want to go as the Muppet

0:33:22.860 --> 0:33:28.220
<v Speaker 1>Treasure Island one. It? Oh, gosh, you're right.

0:33:28.700 --> 0:33:29.740
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying.

0:33:29.780 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of options.

0:33:30.980 --> 0:33:33.980
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of options. But, okay. Yeah, so that

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:37.620
<v Speaker 2>was Clue. What would you grade this movie, Annie, this

0:33:37.660 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 2>cult classic that I love so much? Hmm.

0:33:43.740 --> 0:33:48.740
<v Speaker 1>How do I grade it? Like a home run with

0:33:48.770 --> 0:33:52.350
<v Speaker 1>the candlestick in the library? I don't know. It was fun.

0:33:52.370 --> 0:33:53.590
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed it.

0:33:56.860 --> 0:34:00.140
<v Speaker 2>You tried. You tried to add that all together. Yes,

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.490
<v Speaker 2>I hope you did. This is definitely one of those

0:34:02.570 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 2>that I don't watch often, but every time I watch it,

0:34:04.690 --> 0:34:09.570
<v Speaker 2>I just giggle each time. Each time. And I love this. So, yeah, listeners,

0:34:09.610 --> 0:34:11.589
<v Speaker 2>let us know what you think about this movie. Have

0:34:11.630 --> 0:34:13.969
<v Speaker 2>you loved this movie? Is this something that you think

0:34:14.030 --> 0:34:15.990
<v Speaker 2>is a cult classic? If you did, tell me why.

0:34:16.210 --> 0:34:17.570
<v Speaker 2>If you haven't, tell me why.

0:34:17.590 --> 0:34:22.910
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and hopefully, I mean, we're well outside the window

0:34:22.930 --> 0:34:26.950
<v Speaker 1>of spoilers, but if you haven't seen it, Go watch it.

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:28.970
<v Speaker 2>Should I spoil it? It's 40 years.

0:34:29.030 --> 0:34:31.010
<v Speaker 1>No, we're well outside the window.

0:34:31.090 --> 0:34:31.670
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:34:32.630 --> 0:34:34.989
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully, if somebody really wanted to watch it, they would

0:34:35.010 --> 0:34:35.430
<v Speaker 1>have stopped.

0:34:35.469 --> 0:34:36.250
<v Speaker 2>They would have not.

0:34:37.350 --> 0:34:40.110
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But I mean, even if you know the ending,

0:34:40.130 --> 0:34:41.969
<v Speaker 1>it kind of goes in a wild way.

0:34:42.350 --> 0:34:43.750
<v Speaker 2>It does. Yeah.

0:34:43.930 --> 0:34:45.130
<v Speaker 1>I think you'll still be surprised.

0:34:45.210 --> 0:34:45.650
<v Speaker 2>Go watch it.

0:34:45.710 --> 0:34:50.140
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