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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Noah.

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Speaker 3: They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer, Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 3: are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff

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Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. It is time for

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Speaker 3: our weekly listener mail segment. If you are tuning in

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Speaker 3: the evening this publishes, let us welcome you to March

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Speaker 3: twenty seventh, twenty twenty five. And what better way to

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Speaker 3: kick this off than to ask Old Tennessee his newest

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Speaker 3: interpretation of rude Vegas? What do we got time to

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Speaker 3: dig up the ruda vegas? Love it? Love it? Love it?

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Speaker 3: Favorite part of the week. I think for many of us,

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Speaker 3: perhaps in the crowd tonight, friends and neighbors, we have

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Speaker 3: several of you on air in our exploration. In this

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Speaker 3: evening's program, we're going to talk about astrology and the

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Speaker 3: government got a lot of feedback on that. We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk about we'll have some fun letters from home.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about bots and post offices. Before we do

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Speaker 3: any of that, I gotta tell you, guys, I want

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Speaker 3: to brag about a listener who reached out to us

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Speaker 3: and followed up on the idea of a street fighting

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Speaker 4: And like made a sort of prototype of it. Didn't

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Speaker 3: I did play it. I did play I did play

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Speaker 3: the game, and I've got to tell you guys, it's

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Speaker 3: a lot of fun. We're in early days of development,

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Speaker 3: so we we have to find out. You know, we've

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Speaker 3: to know that this is this is something very much

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Speaker 3: on the way. Big big thanks to Kyle who listened

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Speaker 3: to one of our recent recordings and said, hey, I'll

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm your Huckleberry. Also big thanks the person

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Speaker 3: who pointed out the truth of the Huckleberry quote and Tombstone.

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Speaker 3: They said, Kyle said, I've made a Mortal Kombat style

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Speaker 3: it's pretty fun. Hopefully we can follow up with Kyle

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Speaker 3: as the game continues to develop, but for now, maybe

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Speaker 3: we pause for a word from our sponsors and get

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Speaker 3: straight to some more bird stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we're back and we're Yeah, then you

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Speaker 4: nailed it. We're gonna kick off today's Listener Mail episode

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Speaker 4: with some bird talk, one of my favorite topics. Guys.

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Speaker 4: I play up the fact that I'm a little bit

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Speaker 4: idea of becoming a birder because you can observe them

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Speaker 3: You don't have to like get.

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Speaker 4: Right up the clothes and personal with them. But I

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Speaker 4: and there's apparently real good burden there, like in Prospect

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Speaker 4: a little mole skin, and some binox, and I think

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Speaker 2: Guys, come out my way. I got a okay for you.

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Speaker 4: I would love that, And I know you've got some

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Speaker 4: serious binox yourself, Matt, but hopefully maybe with a little luck.

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Speaker 4: If I'm hanging out in the middle Mississippi River region.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'll spot the piazza bird. Let's talk about you know,

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Speaker 4: we'll see, let's talk about the piazza bird. Gentlemen, easy rights,

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Speaker 4: I always love a good Cryptid episode, and I loved

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Speaker 4: the Piazza bird. If you never heard of it, it

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Speaker 4: must have already done it. Basically, ancient Native American paintings,

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Speaker 4: That's accurate. Easy Could it be to borrow a phrase

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Speaker 4: did an episode on the Piazza Bird. Thanks, easy, Well, easy, Well,

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Speaker 4: And in his journal, father Marquette described this pictograph that

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Speaker 4: Easy mentioned that green, red, and black are the three

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Speaker 4: And then they did a little sketch of what they saw.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think this is the perfect opportunity to hear

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So good news, Easy, is that the bluff paintings

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Speaker 3: And he essentially retells a legend, right, he retells an

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Speaker 4: and signifies in the language of the Illinis, the bird

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Speaker 5: Hey there, folks, this is Noble Grand Humbug Babybirds.

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Speaker 5: That serie episode And it couldn't help but remind me

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Speaker 5: This matters if it happened or not. Thanks guys, take care,

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Speaker 3: Perfect let's try to do let's try to do both.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he is' that's what he was listening to

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Speaker 3: Just two empty mirrors reflecting absence. I'm sorry I was

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Speaker 3: All right, Matt, I'll put it to you this way,

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Speaker 4: Ben is single handedly responsible for more promotions and customer

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Speaker 2: Of Thank you for doing the good work, Ben.

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Speaker 2: Uh, noble bird, if I.

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Speaker 3: May, if we may be so familiar, you.

435
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: Just take two from their grand baby. How I would

436
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: like to know specifically how much of the correspondence that

437
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 2: flows through your post office is some kind of paid

438
00:24:53,760 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 2: flyer or you know, just the junk mayor absolutely that

439
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: that companies pay a lot of money to you know,

440
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: both print package and then send out. But like how

441
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: much of the post office is now propped up by

442
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: just corporations trying to get the word out?

443
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 4: And my question too is like it must work on

444
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 4: somebody or else they wouldn't do it because it is expensive,

445
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: like you said, But I'm like, who are the people

446
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 4: that these random flyers that come in the mail like

447
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 4: work on so effectively? I don't understand.

448
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 3: You guys got to get into a persona hacking, you know,

449
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: demographic hacking. Make sure like leverage the I love where

450
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 3: we're going here, because we're also starting to argue that

451
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: something similar to dead Internet theory may apply to physical

452
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 3: mail in the USPS. Right, So if that's possible, then

453
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: it means it is likewise logically possible. And I don't

454
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 3: think there's anything ethically wrong with this to sort of

455
00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: position your postal address to receive very specific, you know,

456
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: flyers from from some regular company, like start getting start

457
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: getting those weird catalogs for fancy watches you're never going

458
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 3: to order, start getting those invitations to weird cruises or

459
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 3: you know, space exploration trips that you might never take.

460
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 3: And now, all of a sudden, the next time the

461
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 3: eye of state surveillance sore on focuses on you, it'll say,

462
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 3: not that guy. You know, he's clearly, clearly a one

463
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 3: percent despite living in this apartment.

464
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: Like shel persona roommates that that hang out with you

465
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: wherever you live at your address. So you've got stuff

466
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: coming in for Don Credible, that's his name, Credible, stand.

467
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: Up bull down right there you go, nob right bullying

468
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: with a G.

469
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 4: I love it.

470
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 2: I really like that idea.

471
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: See that last part's a little illegal. Oh oh really yeah,

472
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 3: it's like a little it's like a little it's a

473
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: little illegal. Oh man, But you.

474
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: Could associate a name with an address just on like

475
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: various online forums that doesn't where you don't need to

476
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: have an ID or anything, and then you could.

477
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 3: Be you could be mistaken, you know what I mean,

478
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 3: my bad.

479
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 2: I can have virtual roommates if I want to. It's

480
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 2: a merco Okay.

481
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 3: Dolly credible is real to me? Your honor? Yeah, I

482
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 3: do like the court case there, but it is a

483
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: yeah that that gets us to uh, you know, it

484
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 3: reminds me a little bit of oh, what was that

485
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 3: excellent Gravity's Rainbow? Do you guys remember that one?

486
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: It's one is notoriously hard to finish. People to finish it, say,

487
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 4: it's weird.

488
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: It's to get to the end of the rainbow is hard.

489
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: It's like infinite jest.

490
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 4: It's like one of those books that's just notoriously like

491
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: a little bit of a slog but supposedly quite rewarding.

492
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 4: If you there is that Thomas Pinshew.

493
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you're correct, Yes, whatever. Well, the reason we're

494
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 3: bringing up there is just because if we could be

495
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: so familiar grand hum hum baby. Uh, if we could

496
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: be so familiar that novel has this thing about a

497
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 3: secret conspiratorial postal service.

498
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 5: Uh.

499
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: And what you were saying there Matt inspires me to

500
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: return to that idea. There was if I could tell

501
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 3: a tale out of school that might be interesting to

502
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: our baby bird. Here. For a while, her friend Matt

503
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: lived near this amazing bookstore that had something very like

504
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: a pension secret post going on. In the basement of

505
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: this bookstore, there was a and you remember this, there

506
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: was a tiny corner that had all these zines and

507
00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 3: revolutionary propaganda and ways for people to communicate with each

508
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: other outside of social media. Increasingly, that's the thing, you know,

509
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: the big guys don't like, but I love seeing places

510
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: like that.

511
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, sh don't tell anyone, Ben.

512
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 3: Okay, it's just between us millions of people in the

513
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: n Essay.

514
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, do not look for the zines beneath the cat's

515
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: layer somewhere in Shambly. You'll find it and then you

516
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: can go have a nice hookah right next door.

517
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: Oh right, you love that place. Do also to this question, guys,

518
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: to the story that Grand Noble of the Baby Birds

519
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: is bringing up here, do we think it is possible,

520
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: to your earlier point, now that these companies engaging in

521
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: mass marketing via post, is it possible that they could

522
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: support the post office such that you don't need human

523
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: to human correspondence more.

524
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know it. It does feel like the

525
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 4: post office is less and less relevant given other options

526
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 4: that are more efficient. But at the end of the day,

527
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 4: you still I had to send a certified letter the

528
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: other day and you have to do that through the

529
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: post office. Does maybe UPS or FedEx have an equivalent

530
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 4: to certified mail or is that strictly in the domain

531
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 4: of the post Office? I guess so. I guess you

532
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 4: could say anything, get a tracking number, that's all it is.

533
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 4: So maybe the answer I just answered my own question,

534
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 4: But I just yeah, I do kind of wonder of

535
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: all the agencies that are like being stripped right now

536
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: and dismantled and stuff like. Well, then again, though it

537
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: is affordable, I guess then to sort of a right

538
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: to be able to send things through the mail, I

539
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 4: don't know.

540
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: I feel like it depends on the degree of certification,

541
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: because certified mail is the legal threshold is USBs?

542
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 4: Yes? Correct? And can I just say I am not

543
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: advocating for the dismantling of the postal service for any

544
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 4: postal workers out there. We appreciate your work, and it

545
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: just it feels like it's an organization that has dealt

546
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 4: with a lot of staffing shortages and equipment issues and

547
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 4: things like that. So I know it's not an easy job.

548
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 4: And I absolutely appreciate my mail carrier that comes and

549
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: drops off, you know, those trash items in addition to

550
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: some very important items. From time to time, I just

551
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: do wonder, like what is the long outlook for something

552
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: like the postal service?

553
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: And we do hope you put out a new album.

554
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 4: Soon, tru I don't think it's ever going to happen.

555
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 4: That was a one off.

556
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: No, it will happen. Okay, guys, I had this vision

557
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: as we're talking here. So when these companies send out

558
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 2: this piece of automated mail, generally they want you to

559
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: take action somewhere online, right, They want you to take

560
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: some kind of computerized action.

561
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: Some digital financial Yeah, well yeah, but digital work. Right.

562
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: So we're in when we connect it back to the

563
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: dead internet theory, a lot of those system are automated

564
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: already to get the mail printed and then to you.

565
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: Then there's theoretically, very soon all of these digital assistants

566
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: and all these you know, all of these things that

567
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: are being created for the consumer that will automate all

568
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: of that stuff that is that's coming, that is happening

569
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: right now, there will be this thing where it's just

570
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: robots sending you things physically through the mail that your

571
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: robots will read and either reject or take action on,

572
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: even if it's something important that you need to take

573
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: action on.

574
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, wasn't this like let's spin it out, let's give

575
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,239
Speaker 3: it through, dude. So I believe we talked about this

576
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: an evening years back. The possibility, the end spectrum horizon

577
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: possibility of this is a world in which, for one

578
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: reason or another, no physical humans exist. It is a

579
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: dead planet human wise. The systems that the humans built

580
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: are still playing with each other, and the agglomeration of

581
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: call and response between these different systems emulates human activity,

582
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: so that such that if aliens were to land right

583
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 3: or ancient astronauts were to return or whatever, they would

584
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: maybe figure out how to look at a server and say, well, yeah,

585
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: there are all these there are billions of people who

586
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: don't really exist, and guess what, they're super busy. They

587
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: hang out and send mail all the time. I guess

588
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: you just need to get a couple of physical robots

589
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: like hardware that could empty the mailbox. There at the

590
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: end of the world. Whoh oh.

591
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm just going to visualize that for a while.

592
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 3: Ray Bradberry has a great short story about a house

593
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: in that situation.

594
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: Speaking of Ray Bradberry, last night, I was looking for

595
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 4: something to watch and stumbled upon Ray Bradbury Theater, a

596
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: show up from the eighties that is very very eighties

597
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: or maybe his late seventies even, but I've never seen

598
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 4: Ray Bradberry as a human before. And he typing, and

599
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: he's surrounded by all this weird ephemera, and he's saying, ay,

600
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 4: I look around and I get a story idea from

601
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 4: the creepy doll in the corner or whatever. And it's

602
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 4: so goofy and kind of ham fisted. And I always

603
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 4: thought of him as a mythical creature, and it was

604
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 4: a little funny to see that he's just a dorky

605
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 4: old man, like every other great author. No, not every

606
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: but it's it was very interesting to see.

607
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 3: It's like seeing that guy do the frozen Peas commercial.

608
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 3: Who is that?

609
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 4: Remember we're talking about Orson Wells. Wells he did many

610
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 4: a weird commercial, dude, oh, when it was often quite drunk.

611
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 4: There's one he did for like a wine company. It's

612
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 4: I almost want to say that bit in a Shit's

613
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 4: Creek where Moira Rose is doing this wine ad and

614
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: she keeps drinking the wine and getting drunker and drunker.

615
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 4: I almost want to say, they got the idea for

616
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 4: that from this Orson Wells thing. Look it up. You

617
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 4: can see the outtakes. It is wild. He is Tanks.

618
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 3: He's a great director too.

619
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: Great director, great actor, poly math, genius, very incorrigible, weird

620
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 4: old dude. Have we talked abouts for Fake, his kind

621
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 4: of faux documentary about magic and art forgery.

622
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 3: Hmm, I have not.

623
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 4: You guys would both very much enjoy it, and then

624
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 4: folks in the audience I think would too. It's just

625
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 4: like it's this. It's about the line between you know,

626
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: reality and and uh, you know misdirection, I guess. And

627
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 4: he narrates it and parts of it are documentary, but

628
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 4: parts of it are fiction, and it's sort of about

629
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 4: blurring the line between the two, and art forgery is

630
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 4: a big part of it, and magic stage magic. It's

631
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 4: a really really weird and interesting film that he made

632
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 4: later in his life.

633
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: Wow, guys, I am thinking it's a sign that the

634
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: Freckles stop it, okay.

635
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: Images and what is it when they touch they're perfectly

636
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 4: when we kiss their PC.

637
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much, noble grand humbug baby

638
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 2: bird for calling us and letting us know what's going

639
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: on down to the postal office. We're gonna head out

640
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 2: for now, but you will be seeing us waving from

641
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: such great heights. We'll be right back after.

642
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: Come down now, sponsor, come down now, they'll say, well,

643
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 4: wagging their finger.

644
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: And we have returned with the final act of our

645
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: weekly listener mail segment. Guys, we got so much input

646
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 3: or response from from our conversation about astrology in the government,

647
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: our series that focused on some historical precedent in the

648
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: United States as well as some events more recently in

649
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: mean mar And you know, candidly, we want to approach

650
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: something like astrology with great care, right with great diplomacy,

651
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: because we do know it means quite a lot to

652
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: quite a few people, and there's another contingent of people

653
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: who find it somehow offensive. Right, So we hope that

654
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: we did. We hope that we did right by everybody

655
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: in the gang with giving you, you know, the facts

656
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: as they stand and the ways in which world powers

657
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: do use astrology in that discourse. As a result, we

658
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: had a lot of great correspondence with people who picked

659
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: up the torch that we passed and said, well, let

660
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: me think through you know, a possible, a possible way

661
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: to scientifically prove some grain of truth through astrology. We

662
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: alluded to some of our own theories about it. For

663
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: our fellow conspiracy realists who wrote to us, we shared

664
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 3: those theories. We're having spoiler some pretty fascinating conversations about

665
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: artificial intelligence quote unquote, and the idea of horoscopes that

666
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 3: we share. One piece of correspondence from a fellow listener

667
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: who reached out to us and just gave us, like

668
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: their perspective on not just astrology in the government, but

669
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Speaker 3: astrology in humanity. Before we do that, guys, horoscopes for AI,

670
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: are we onto something?

671
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

672
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 3: What do you mean? Okay, yeah, before we get to

673
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: Sam's letter. All right, So in that overly thorough thing,

674
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: I kept sending the idea here or our basis, our

675
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 3: thought experiment assumes that gravity is unknowable, right, and people

676
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: still don't understand two things, gravity and the development of

677
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: the human brain, especially in the gestative or fetal stages.

678
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: So is it therefore then possible that certain minuscule gravitational

679
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: effects from the position of heavenly bodies could somehow affect

680
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: the development of the human brain. And from there we

681
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: naturally spun the question out, gamed it out to ask

682
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: if that is the case, then could gravitational effects that

683
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: are ostensibly minuscule, could they have an effect on the

684
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Speaker 3: development of AI or non human minds? Fund at parties?

685
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 4: Okay, on undsteen the minute to unwrap that, Matt, seems

686
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: like you're quicker than the draw than me.

687
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: Well, so, the idea is that the gravitational effects could

688
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: affect the humans, who are then affecting the creation of

689
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: the artificial intelligence.

690
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't think about that. That's a good one.

691
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: I was thinking more directly the idea that if a

692
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 3: non organic mind reaches past a certain threshold of sophistication,

693
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: could its hardware be influenced by gravitational effects such that

694
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 3: it might affect the tendencies or the disposition matrix of

695
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: the mind.

696
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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm reading directly out of Ben Bollen's

697
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: theory on determining the possible scientific basis of astrology.

698
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Speaker 3: All right, well, then we could get a better title no, No,

699
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 3: we could get a better title.

700
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Speaker 2: It's like a scientific paper. I'm looking at it right now.

701
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: Holy mackerel.

702
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: We'll just speak through it, you know, horoscopes for AI.

703
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: I feel like that's interesting. But with this in mind,

704
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: I'm just as always eternally hungry for your thoughts. Guys.

705
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: Sam wrote to us. Uncle Sam sorry wrote to us

706
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: and said, hey, uncle Sam here, I wanted to share

707
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: a few thoughts with you regarding those episodes about astrology.

708
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: First thought about Reagan. In addition to the astrology, I

709
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: remember reading that Ronald also believed the world was going

710
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: to end, or at least that civilization was going to

711
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: collapse in the year two thousand, the year two thousand thousand,

712
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: and he based his policies on this belief. Do you

713
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 3: know if there's any merit to this? Have you guys

714
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: ever heard that?

715
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 4: No?

716
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 3: I haven't either. Was he one of the was he

717
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: maybe one of those folks who are you know, there's

718
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: a certain contingent of folks who are religiously driven to

719
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: hasten the apocalypse. We've talked about those guys in the past.

720
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: Well, maybe he was trying to stop it. That's why

721
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 2: he Yeah, you know, took down that wall.

722
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 3: Maybe he did, maybe he did stop it. Maybe I

723
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: don't know. I wonder if because he was definitely into

724
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 3: the whole American ideology of a city on the hill,

725
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: right and standing stalwart against the evils of the world,

726
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: and he definitely seemed to be a religious dude. But

727
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 3: I don't know how far it goes. Is like, would

728
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 3: you want to have a president who was vince the

729
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 3: world's going to end on a specific date? That's a

730
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: little culty.

731
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but okay, And again, no disparagement to anybody who's

732
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: sure there anybody's religious beliefs, but there's a certain doomsday

733
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 4: philosophy wrapped up in certain sects of Christianity, certain you know,

734
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 4: evangelical wings, and we've certainly had high level politicians and

735
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 4: you know, presidents that kind of go in for that

736
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Speaker 4: kind of stuff. I don't see how it's that much different.

737
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think that's an astute observation. We'd

738
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Speaker 3: love to hear your thoughts, Reaganites or anybody who met

739
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 3: Ronnie firsthand. I want to thank on air Noel again

740
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: for getting the etymology of the Gipper worse Kipper I

741
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 3: was not aware of at the time. We have another

742
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: thought from Uncle Sam, who says, my second thought is

743
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: regarding astrology. I want to make the argument that is

744
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: not completely hocus focus. To be clear, I'm not saying

745
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 3: daily horoscopes or accurate predictions or anything of the sort.

746
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: I'd like to take a step back and consider the

747
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: possibilities in a logical and I'm going to say it

748
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: scientifically based manner. And so with this, and we'll cut

749
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: a little bit for time with this, Uncle Sam, you

750
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: provide several links to some fascinating studies, one by the

751
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 3: National Center for Atmospheric Research, one by the good folks

752
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: at Columbia University. And the study from Colombia is interesting

753
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: because it finds correlations between the month a person is

754
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: born in and the health conditions they will later develop.

755
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: Well, Ben, we certainly know that there are forces at

756
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 4: work from celestial bodies that govern things like the tides,

757
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 4: and you know, we've even seen examples with women's you know,

758
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 4: menstrual cycles having to do with lunar cycles as well. Again,

759
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm sort of like being a little general,

760
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 4: but I would put forth, is it that much of

761
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 4: a stretch believe that there are forces exerting themselves on

762
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 4: us and on our fragile fetuses, you know, at certain

763
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 4: times of the year that could make changes. I don't know.

764
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: I think it's certainly a valid thing to consider.

765
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: Awesome, Yeah, yeah, because the thing I was talking about

766
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: is about the possibility of maybe gravitational effects on a

767
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: developing human brain. So it's worth looking into, is it not?

768
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: And Uncle Sam says the hypothesis is that humans have

769
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: been observing the world for thousands of years, the weather,

770
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: the atmosphere, the astronomical arrangements as a species, says Uncle Sam,

771
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: I would submit there exists a wealth of communal knowledge.

772
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: At some point in time, our ancestors started to log

773
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: data points or data your mileage is up to you,

774
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 3: and started to notice recurring patterns and then started to

775
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 3: predict certain aspects of life, like when was the best

776
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 3: time to plant crops, when was the best time to

777
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: harvest those crops. Over time, these points become common knowledge.

778
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 3: Folks start to notice patterns, they start to correlate patterns,

779
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: and these correlations go beyond their crops. Correlations like children

780
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: born in late spring typically grew up to be the

781
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: healthiest people born in late autumn. More likely to have

782
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: mental health problems, etc. And so, with all this in mind,

783
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 3: Uncle Sam says, is it so far fetched to suggest

784
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: that earlier humans found cycles and patterns to also have

785
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 3: a significant correlation with attributes and behaviors of their fellow

786
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: human beings. There's a lot more to it, but I

787
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: want to get us to I want to get us

788
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: to a point you make, your uncle Sam, you say

789
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 3: to Wit, I believe that at some point in the future,

790
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: a bunch of dedicated astrologists will load every data set

791
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: they can find from as far back as they can

792
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: find into an artificial intelligence program that compares astrology to

793
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: real world data sets and spits out a model that

794
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: has an accuracy rate above fifty, which would make it

795
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: scientifically significant and make it legit.

796
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: I'm I'm stuck in daily horoscopes and trying to I'm

797
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: clicking through them, trying to find things that correlate to

798
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: what you're saying so that I can have a call

799
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: out to our horoscope. But none of them are. They're

800
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: they're so varied on all these sites.

801
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: Keep them there all right? Well, sorry, Noda, what are

802
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: the okay? Well, as as a group of leos, as

803
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: a pride a lot. Yes, what do we got?

804
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I found out Chris Hemsworth is born

805
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: right around the same time that we are.

806
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: I don't know that checks out.

807
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: They're talking about retrograding venus and all kinds of stuff

808
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: that doesn't make sense. Guys, But hey, we may discover

809
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: a talent that we've been neglecting. It has a resurgence

810
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: and it's going to bring us more money, is what it.

811
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 3: Says, you know of the one of the things speaking

812
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 3: of fortune telling and stuff, one of the things that

813
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 3: I always do when I'm abroad, especially in uh well,

814
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: I'll just say it, like when when I end up

815
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 3: in Japan. There there are all these shrines where they

816
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: will give you a fortune for a very small amount

817
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 3: of money, and I've just stopped opening them. I carry

818
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: them around and if someone's having a like a bad day,

819
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: then I will give them a fortune.

820
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: And you should do the same thing with the magic cards.

821
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: I knew you were going to say it, but they're

822
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: for you.

823
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: Therefore, yeah, you as in.

824
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: Okay, it's for you, as in the people of bald Knob, Queenslant.

825
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 3: This is our segue, your little letter from home, cleanse

826
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 3: the palette have some fun in these our challenging times. Guys.

827
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: Black Shep or black Sheep black Shepey wrote to us

828
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 3: and said, greetings chaps, condolences on the collapse of your

829
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: once proud nation. Black Shep. Yeah, I know it's that

830
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: Australian humor for you. Black Shep is the name in

831
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: educating Americans about Australia is my game.

832
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 5: Uh.

833
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: Please find attached the list of places you should visit

834
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: when you come down Under. Please be sure to have

835
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: a live session in either Sydney or Melbourne, or pronounce

836
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 3: it correctly to convince your suits that you can make

837
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 3: a buck on the tour. Now, we just got this

838
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 3: crazy list of Australia's worst place names. Did you guys

839
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: see this?

840
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: Give it to us? I can't wait. I want to

841
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 4: hear it cold.

842
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: I saw this randomly somewhere else and I don't know.

843
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: This must be in the zeitgeist. This is a this

844
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: is a great list.

845
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: Let's just you know what, let's just round rob it now.

846
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 3: We're going to start at the top. We're going to

847
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: read these as quickly as possible. Maybe maybe we do

848
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: rounds of five.

849
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 4: Are these really real?

850
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: All right?

851
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 4: Well?

852
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 3: Holy Cow the first time, Australia's Worst Place.

853
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 4: These are real places. We're going to give you.

854
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: The We're going to give you the town names. Uh

855
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: not not the wider thing, just for time. Okay, I'll

856
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: kick this off. We'll do five at a time. Bald Knob,

857
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: big Dick, Boar, big knob, water Hole, Bonar Street, Boobs,

858
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 3: Flat Booby Island.

859
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 4: Boomer's Bottom, bottom hole, break Wind Reserve, bull Hill, bum

860
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 4: Bum bum Bum Creek. That's my favorite. I want to

861
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 4: live in Bumbum Creek.

862
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: I guess I'll say it.

863
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: I get sick. Yeah, I did six to push you

864
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: into this one.

865
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: Kids, close your ears, Burnt pussy, mine, Humman's knob, cockwash, Dancing,

866
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: Dick's Creek, dead Woman's Hole hole.

867
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Speaker 4: Dead Woman's hole.

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Speaker 3: And then of course there's the opper, Dirty Dick Creek,

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Speaker 3: double knob, finger Buttress, funny knob Creek and goat knobs.

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Speaker 4: We got great Dick Hill, Groper Grotto. That's the that's

871
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Speaker 4: in the play. Guy guys, guys, dirty hole, hopping, Dick's Creek,

872
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Speaker 4: Hooker Park, horny point horse, knob, horse cocks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, here you go in a loup intercourse

874
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Speaker 2: Island licking hole.

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Speaker 4: Incurse Island should be like a reality show.

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Speaker 3: I think it is.

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00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: I think that was a joke thing. I feel like

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00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 2: i've heard Intercourse Island before.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. You said licking hole.

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00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, licking hole. I want to say Nick Kroll is

881
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: involved with Intercourse Island.

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00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 4: And then it's you know what, it's probably one of

883
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 4: his sketches on croll Show. Maybe I make you.

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Speaker 2: Wrong, licking hole, as you said, lovely bottom Minger, Well,

885
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Speaker 2: ming Inger, Well that's Minger being naughty about it. Okay,

886
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Speaker 2: but don't forget mossy nipple bend.

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Speaker 4: How could I have? That's where I met my first love?

888
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 3: And where would you be without where? Look, let's just

889
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: let's just cut this. Because we promised we would get

890
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: some fun us names to you, black sheep. So we

891
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: do want to give a shout out to all the

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Speaker 3: good folks in Tittybong Tit, Wobble Lane, Soy Bottom Point,

893
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 3: Shaving Holes, Creek. No, these are all in Australia, and

894
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 3: of course Mount Buggery Stinkhole.

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Speaker 4: You didn't mention this. Can't forget stinkhole. We've also got

896
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: the butts and the nipples.

897
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: This is ridiculous.

898
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 4: He gave us. They forged this so that we'd say

899
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 4: naughty things on our PG thirteen podcast.

900
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: So fair is fair. With pro quo plarice, we're going

901
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 3: to give you and all of our Australian listeners some

902
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: fun names from US towns. Welcome to Satan's Kingdom Massachusetts.

903
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 3: There's also ding Dong, Texas, Handsome Eddie, New York. That

904
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 3: guy's a legend. And then why not North Carolina.

905
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to why not.

906
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 2: Shout out to my hometown, Coming.

907
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 3: George Georgia I was talking about covered earlier.

908
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 4: Coming is number one on ten tiny American towns with

909
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 4: unbelievably obscene names.

910
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: So there's toad Suck and Coming is also the home

911
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: of the kkking.

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00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 4: These are not nearly as cool though, got it, that's

913
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Speaker 4: true as the Australian ones. We've got Climax Michigan, Hooker, Oklahoma.

914
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,479
Speaker 4: We do have Intercourse, Pennsylvania. It's not an island though,

915
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Speaker 4: and Hornytown, North Carolina. Spread Eagle, Wisconsin is one of

916
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Speaker 4: my personal favorites.

917
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 3: I like Frankenstein, Missouri, and I hope they're really.

918
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Speaker 4: Leaning into that really quickly. I just found another site

919
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 4: that's got a bunch more briny breezes. These are all

920
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 4: in Florida, Bunker Donation, Fluffy Landing, some of these are

921
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: just silly need more Florida, Georgia. There's a place called

922
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 4: Ball's Ferry and Boneville, and of course Butts Coming Experiment, Faceville, Flippin'

923
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 4: gum Log, hard Up and Piles Marsh And that's it

924
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Speaker 4: for me, y'all.

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Speaker 3: And then of course, since we're strating on, we can't

926
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Speaker 3: leave slickpoo, Idaho and Hell Michigan off the map there,

927
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Speaker 3: so we'd love to hear your favorite town names. Also,

928
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Speaker 3: while we are wrapping up tonight's listener Male segment, I

929
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Speaker 3: have a question for Tennessee Pal Dylan. What is doof

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00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 3: doof music?

931
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 4: Doof doof music? Is four on the floor dance music

932
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 4: supposedly boots and Cats also known as boots and cats.

933
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: There we go, OK, very confusing, but yes, I do

934
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Speaker 2: enjoy doof doof music?

935
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Speaker 3: You heard it here first, folks. That's why that's why

936
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 3: we tune in for the breaking journalism of the day.

937
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: We want to hear from you, big big thanks, of course,

938
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:56,240
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939
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 3: Tell us what's on your mind. Give us thoughts for

940
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,359
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941
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: an upcoming episode of stuff they don't want you to know.

942
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 3: Find us on a telephone, drop us a line to

943
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 3: the void, or find us on the other lines, the

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Speaker 3: on lines that are on in the d Internet.

945
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Speaker 4: That's a right intercourse. No, that's the city. You can

946
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 4: find this at the handle Conspiracy Stuff where we exist

947
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 4: on Facebook with our Facebook group. Here's where it gets crazy.

948
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 4: Share some more dirty city names the world over. We

949
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 4: want to hear from you. There's a great community there

950
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: on that group on Facebook, so get in on the conversation.

951
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 4: You can also find us the Conspiracy Stuff on x FKA,

952
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 4: Twitter and on YouTube, or we have video content glor

953
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 4: for your pruising enjoyment. You can find this at the

954
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 4: handle Conspiracy Stuff Show however, on Instagram and or TikTok.

955
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:45,959
Speaker 4: But wait, there's more.

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00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: We have a phone number. It is one eight three

957
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 2: three std WYTK. When you call in, give yourself a

958
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: cool nickname and let us know if we can use

959
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: your name and message on the air. Tell us about

960
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 2: your hometown and whether or not it's got a weird name.

961
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 2: What's it known for? Is there anything weird going on

962
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: in the town?

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00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 3: Weird museum?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, coming Georgia. Also a home of

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Speaker 2: Flash of Crimson band from Forsyth Central not just the

966
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Speaker 2: KKK all right, Hey OKKK. If you got more to

967
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: say than could fit in a voicemail, why not instead

968
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Speaker 2: send us a good old fashioned email.

969
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: We are the entities that read every piece of correspondence

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00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 3: we receive. And hey, you can just hit us on

971
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: the email anytime. Whatever your preferred method of communication is.

972
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Speaker 3: We can all see if we can all respond. Would

973
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Speaker 3: love to hear your favorite doof doof music. We'd also

974
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Speaker 3: it's killing me. We'd also love to hear town names.

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Speaker 3: We'd love to hear your thoughts and horoscopes AI and

976
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 3: oh man, just the weirdest thought experiments you can come

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