1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison Lauren Zema coming to you from the home 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: office in Austin, Texas on this Christmas Week. 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Christmas Week, Christmas time is here? Are there not songs 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: from holiday movies that just stick in your head? 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: Are lines that do? 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Like? 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: There's probably I would say there is no genre of 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: movie rewatched more than holiday movies. I was reading the 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: other day about how valuable the like ip is on 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: holiday movies because people just watch them over and over 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: and over again. 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to think of a holiday or 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: something else as like a genre. 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 3: You quote ELF all the time, year round. You quote ELF. 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: It's one of the greatest movies period. It's it's one 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: of my favorite movies of all time, not like holiday movie, 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: just one of my favorite movies of all time. I 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: think it's genius. 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: I think, what is your favorite line from ELF? 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the one that gets me every time. 22 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 1: Is the coffee shop he walks in and yeah, you're 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: walking he's walking through New York for the first time, obviously, 24 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: and he sees if you've ever been to New York, 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, world's best pizza, world's best cup 26 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: of coffee. And he sees that and he jumps in 27 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: and he says, congratulations, everybody, you did it. It's just 28 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: in the looks. It's not as much Will Ferrell's delivery, 29 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: which is genius, but the looks of the employees and 30 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: everybody in there is just like so New York. 31 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: And that so. 32 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: Applies year round. 33 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: If someone does something, Chris goes, congratulations, you did people. 34 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Are like, you're an idiot. But I also like the 35 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: use of New York, like it was a really good, 36 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: real character and there was a very good New York. 37 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: Movie best uses of New York, well not best, but 38 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: up there Sex and the City and Elf the movie. 39 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: It really is they did it. I mean, it's a 40 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: solid legit New York. 41 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: I would like to speak to someone about this, the 42 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: chemical thing in our brain that instantly makes you remember 43 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: like a quote or a song lyric. It will pop 44 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: in your brain like I did it. I just got 45 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: my haircut. I just came back from a haircut and 46 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: the wonderful woman. And by the way, if you're in Austin, 47 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: I love Deep Roots Salon. Specifically, the Cedar Park location 48 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: is incredible. Shout out to Tara and Mallory. But she 49 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 2: was coloring my hair and she just said, you know, 50 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: yeah on my own, and in my brain I instantly 51 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: go lay miz and I go on my own and 52 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: I did it, and I'm like, oh, I said to her. 53 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: She and I this is the first time she colored 54 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: my hair and said, well we know each other. Well, 55 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: now you know that I can't not go to musicals. 56 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: What is that in your brain? 57 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: Mike Trico, the Great, I don't know. There's there are 58 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: certain songs and I was thinking about Mike Terrico, the sportscaster. 59 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: He said this week he's like I watch Home Alone 60 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: every year, and someone was giving him a hard time, like, 61 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: come on, you really don't. And I'm like, we watch 62 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: Home Alone. 63 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: Every d You and I, with no kids in sight, 64 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: decorated the tree together and watched Home Alone. 65 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: We watched elfin Home Alone as we decorated the tree 66 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: and we cooked dinner. 67 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 2: I love background movies. You've seen them so many times 68 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: that you don't have to be actively watching. You were cooking, 69 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: I was putting up the tree, and we were half watching, 70 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: half listening. 71 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: My question for you, what's the Home Alone song that 72 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: pops in your head when you think Home Alone, what 73 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: is the song, what's the scene? What's the song? Because 74 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: that's your favorite movie. 75 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: It's the When you hear the chorus of the kids, 76 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: it's it's kind of like when he's building up to 77 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: fight back against the you know, the Wet bandits, and 78 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: you hear the little kids. 79 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: Schoir, they go, they go, fall on your knees. I 80 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: can't hit that. That falsett I. 81 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Is fall on your knees, the same as Dobby is free. Wow. 82 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: If we're talking about movies, everybody. 83 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if marriage has changed Chris Harrison, but 84 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: I was taking a bath the other day, which I 85 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: could get into that whole thing. 86 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: Are you a bath person or not? 87 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: No? 88 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: I am not, and yet I try to make myself 89 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: do it sometimes because I think you but all I 90 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: do is get stressed out. 91 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: You appreciate that I'm. 92 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: Not a bath Frost, No, I appreciate that You're like, 93 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: you have this beautiful bathtub in this beautiful house, and 94 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: you're like, I'm going to be this person and you're not, Like, 95 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: but you've tried. 96 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: It's wasted on me. I feel bad, Like my sister 97 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: loves baths. Some you you either are a bath person 98 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: or or not. 99 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: But I like that you go in with the intention 100 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: of I'm going to have a real moment to myself 101 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: and this spa like moment. And guys, five minutes later, 102 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm getting text messages. I hear her in there and 103 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: it's not going well. She's she's a caged animal in 104 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: a bathtub. 105 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: It's so boring. 106 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: I'm sweaty. I'm like, am I cleaning? I'm just sweating 107 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: in here. I don't think here's a real question. 108 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: Huh. 109 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: Little kids aside, Like kids are different. If you're an 110 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: adult and you take a bath, are you clean afterwards? 111 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: No, you're just stewing in your own juice. 112 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: That's what I think. I'm like, I got to take 113 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 3: a shower. 114 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: There's no good. Yeah, you have to show I always 115 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: if I can't remember the last time I took a bath, 116 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: maybe when I was What. 117 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: Can you use our bathtub? Because then someone will be No, 118 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: I do not like baths. 119 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: Why not If I'm sore or sick and it's like 120 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: we have a hot tub, I'd rather go get the 121 00:04:59,240 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: hot tub. 122 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: Interesting, Well, yeah, you know what I agree with you? 123 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, okay, Well I'm in the bath and I 124 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: come out and I realize, well, I've been wasting my 125 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: time in the bath. You have been on your own 126 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: watching a Harry Potter. 127 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: Movie, which is why he just brought up Dobby Dolby 128 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: is Free. 129 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: I take Apparently it's the worst one. Your least favorite 130 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: Chamber of Secrets. 131 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: Chamber of Secrets is it's not my least favorite book, 132 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: but I do think it's maybe the worst movie. 133 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: Interesting, Okay, acting wise, the kids didn't know how to 134 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: act yet. 135 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: In the first movie, you forgive them. You're like, these 136 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: are young kids, they're acting for the first time. I 137 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: don't expect it to be that great. The third movie, 138 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, the acting is still. 139 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: Not that great. The story, some of the lines, some 140 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: of the shots, it's just not great. What did you 141 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: here's my question, what made you just actively on your 142 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: own when watching Harry Potter movie? 143 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: Marriage has changed me. The only reason I ever stop 144 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: at Harry Potter movies is because of you. 145 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 3: But what is the reason? 146 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: I just want to? And it's funny because I don't 147 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: sit and watch all of them, and I have still 148 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: not watched all of them, and then and it's kind 149 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: of fun. And I wonder if you're envious of me 150 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: because I was watching Chamber of Secrets for the first 151 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: time last night, what. 152 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: I would give to experience the reveals of the Harry 153 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: Potter series again. 154 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: I did not know who opened the Chamber of Secrets, 155 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: and I knew it wasn't Hagrid. He's too lovable, and 156 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: because I've seen him in other parts of the movies 157 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, nope, he's a lovable figure. The only 158 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: way he would have done it is stupidly on accident, 159 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: because he is a bumbling fool at times times and 160 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: well all the time. That's his character. And so I 161 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, maybe he did it on accident, but 162 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: I knew he was being set up. But yeah, it's 163 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: because of you that I've just I will watch these 164 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: and I will eventually watch them. 165 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: All that makes me feel so loved. 166 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: When that makes me feel so loved, and it makes 167 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: me wonder if I should be watching more. 168 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: Sports for you, okay, hot take. I have also not 169 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: watched the other ones, the New Zealand ones, because we 170 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: went to New Lord of the Rings. I have not 171 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: watched Lord of the Rings either. I've seen parts of 172 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: it were you. 173 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: The Lord of the Rings movies were so big. 174 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: I. 175 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: Know what we're doing. 176 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: They just don't appeal to me. I guess that that 177 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: type of sci fi does not appeal to me. I 178 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: was definitely in the Star Wars generation that came out 179 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: when I was seven or eight years old. That captured 180 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: my imagination. Never a Star Trek. 181 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: You think you didn't go? 182 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: Is that it? Or I have heard from people because 183 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: when the Lord of the Rings movies came out, you 184 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: had young kids, and I do feel like when you're 185 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: a parent and you have young kids, you're so busy 186 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: with that that you kind of miss out on like. 187 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: Cultural is that when those came out early two thousandar 188 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: two thousand, then I if it wasn't animated, I can 189 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: tell you about every animated movie from two thousand and 190 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: one through twenty ten, like all the Cars, and by 191 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: the way, it was an unbelievable Hall of Fame home 192 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: run set of animation at that time, like all the 193 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: great movies came out at. 194 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: That time time, Like I'm trying to think of one, 195 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: but I was all the. 196 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Cars, all the Nemos, all the toy stories. 197 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean well, toy stories started mid nineties 198 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: and then first toy stories like ninety four. 199 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, maybe Josh just got caught the tail into those. Yeah, 200 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: but we had a great run. Enchanted another one that 201 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: was good, we got weir got animated, half anime. 202 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: Half of it was it finding mema. I'll give you. 203 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: Cars, okay, but anyway, so we digress. 204 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: So thank you for watching the Harry Potter movies. It 205 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: makes me feel loved. 206 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: And also thank you for saying I don't have to 207 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: start watching sports. Can I make an argument for something. 208 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: I think movies are a more neutral thing than sports, 209 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: Like it's a more all encompassing, like there can be 210 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: sports moviessier to say on common ground, right, But so 211 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: I think a person should be more inclined, Like if 212 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: someone's like who you're dating says I love this movie, 213 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: I think you should be more inclined to give that 214 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: movie a shot than like a whole type of activity. 215 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 216 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: Oh no, I agree. I see where you're coming. And 217 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm just making the case for myself not watching sports movie. Okay, 218 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: there's a good chance I'm gonna like something about your movie. 219 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: I would watch a sports movie with you. I like 220 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: a lot of movies about sports. 221 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: Like if you say to me, you may not love 222 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: this movie, but Chris Pine's in it, or Stanley Tucci's 223 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: in it, I'm like, okay, I'm in. 224 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: You can find an entry. Yeah, exactly, Really sports, I 225 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: got nothing the touch. 226 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: And so Merry Christmas. Weeke to everybody. I hope everybody's 227 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: kind of heading home wherever you are, and the kids 228 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: are coming home. Lauren and I just tried to drive 229 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: from Fort Worth yesterday back home to Austin, and it's literally, 230 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: I think everybody in the world was on the road, 231 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: so truly everyone's heading home for the holidays. 232 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: And so it's by the way, you casually dropped in 233 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: that we went to New Zealand. 234 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 235 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: First of all, I don't want to go on about 236 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: it too long as we have so much to get to. 237 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 2: But beautiful country. I ran around quoting the Hobbit as 238 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: I guess you just have to gorgeous beaches, gorgeous mountains, 239 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 2: the kindest people. And the whole reason we went was 240 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: because these dear friends of ours. Actually the guy who 241 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: officiated our wedding and his wonderful wife who sang at 242 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: our welcome dinner. 243 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: She is from there and they have a home there 244 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 3: that they just finished. 245 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: But what this kind of got us talking about, like 246 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: we were there for a while, we went there for 247 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: a week, is what is a gauge of a friend 248 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: you can really travel with? Like I think it's so 249 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: important for couples to have couple friends. And we've talked 250 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: about this, but it's a whole different thing when you're 251 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: talking about going to dinner with another couple versus traveling. 252 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: And you have a great phrase for. 253 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: This boat people, yacht people, boat people. 254 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 3: Can you explain that it is? 255 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: If you are stuck on a boat, you're traveling, You're 256 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: not stuck with them. Who would you choose to go 257 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: on vacation with? And say you're on a yacht. You're 258 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: on a boat that has two rooms, four rooms, whatever, 259 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: so you were in pretty confined quarters. These are people 260 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: You're going to be on top of a lot on 261 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: this boat, going to have to eat, drink and sleep 262 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: with them. You will not sleep sleep with them, but 263 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You're going to see each 264 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: other close quarters, Yes, close quarters. 265 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: In a hotel, you can escape on a boat, you can, right. 266 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, Hey, we're gonna we're gonna walk 267 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: into town. We're gonna and you're like, oh my god, 268 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: I can't I can't get away from Bob and Marie 269 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: fast enough. Who are you know? You can't You're stuck. 270 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: You can't walk on water, you can't disappear. You're stuck 271 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: with these people who are your boat people? Because I 272 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 1: would contest there are people you would travel with that 273 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: still aren't boat people. 274 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: This is the best level, yes, of Like I mean, 275 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: is it the best level of friendship? 276 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: It's definitely just a certain level of friendship where it's 277 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: someone you can easily be around NonStop. 278 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: These are your I guess the kids would call it 279 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: your ride or die. 280 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: What are the parameters for this? What are the boxes 281 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: to check if to know if someone's your boat person? 282 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: After three days you don't want to murder them? 283 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: That's it. 284 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: It's three day tests. 285 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: You know, it's a three days you call it boat people, 286 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: or you could call it won't murder them people. 287 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's the three day fish test. You know, 288 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: you leave leaf fish out on the dock for three days. 289 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: At third day it's it's spoiled. 290 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: Really, you think they're the first two days. 291 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: So I'm just learning that that test of just not 292 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: wanting to do physical harm of like I can't be 293 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: with these people for one more minute that laugh or 294 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: that obnoxious whatever, or they drink too much or they 295 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: whatever it is, those annoying, annoying characteristics that you just 296 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: can't stand after three days, that's it. 297 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: I think the people generally have to be positive people, 298 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: Like that's a huge part. You can't have someone who's 299 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: a complainer or negative like you know every day, yeah, the. 300 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: Person that finds the you know, gray cloud in the 301 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: silver line. 302 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: Well, or even if it's their sense of humor, like 303 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: some people are really funny, but their sense of humors 304 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: kind of making fun of things that can get old. 305 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: I think you have to be around people who are 306 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: generally positive. I think critically they have to be up 307 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: for things like yeah, let's go to dinner, Yeah let's 308 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: try that hike. It can't be like, you know, I'm 309 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: just the stay at home person or they and they 310 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: have to go with the flow of the group. 311 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you got to match I think the energies 312 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: and ideas and activities like you got to match up 313 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: and whatever that is. If you're all we sit by 314 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: the pool all day, people great but if if one 315 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: group or one couple is we sit by the pool 316 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: and sip on my ties and just get sun, and 317 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: then the other group is we like to go spearfishing 318 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: and yeah, and surfing and hiking and they're very active, 319 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: that will not work. 320 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: You're right, you've defined the I mean it's like a relationship, 321 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: and just like a relationship, I think with friendship, traveling 322 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: together can be a real test of a friendship. 323 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: But the most difficult thing is it's easy to find. 324 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: It's easier to find that in a relationship because you're 325 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: finding it with one person. It is so hard to 326 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: find husband and wife, man and well or whatever, just 327 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: just the both of a couple. You're finding two humans 328 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 1: that you get along with. How often is it, you know, 329 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: we love her, but oh the or we love him, 330 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: but oh the w and so you got to match up. 331 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: It's more challenging to find boat people than it is 332 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 2: to find the life partner. Yeah, not only is it 333 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: a big week because of the holiday, but we're coming 334 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: off of some pretty big podcast episodes for you. 335 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a huge response. Thank you to everyone 336 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: who listened to the Jason Tarctic podcasts. We did two 337 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: episodes because it was just too good. We had to 338 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: break it up and to sit down with Jason. Was 339 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: received very well. Overall, it was received well. You know, 340 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: I did. I talked a little bit about this on 341 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: social media. I got a couple of messages, where's the tea, 342 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm not learning anything new. I dealt with that a 343 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: little bit of that's not what this was about. That's 344 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: not that wasn't my goal, and I will admit there's 345 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: a little hypocrisy for twenty years. That is what I did. 346 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: You know, I would go for some of that meat 347 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: because that was the show and that was the advice. 348 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: You know what, though you told me after the interview, 349 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: I did not listen to it. I was in the 350 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: other room, and I was just kind of because you 351 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: and Jason have a great relationship. I just wanted to 352 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: let you do it because I knew that you were 353 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: going to probably get into some stuff about Caitlin. But 354 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: after you guys recorded, you told me later who said, look, 355 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: before we went into it, I did think maybe we'll 356 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: really dig in and maybe we'll get some answers on things. 357 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,479 Speaker 2: But in the moment, and I think this is commendable 358 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: to you because you got both types of moments. For 359 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: years on the show, you got the emotional moment and 360 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: the revealing moments, sometimes both in one. But you made 361 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: the call in the moment with Jason to just say, 362 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: you know what, he's still so emotional and raw about this, 363 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: that this is not the time as both his friend 364 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: and someone interviewing him to dig deep like he's still 365 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: his emotions are still so at the serve this, that 366 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: this isn't the let's dive in and I want you 367 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: to spill all the team moments well. 368 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: And we set some parameters as we started, because he 369 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: was really concerned and respectful about Caitlin. He did not 370 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: want this to come off as start this whole he said. 371 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: She said thing, And I didn't either, because you know, 372 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: it's interesting when you're doing an interview. And again I 373 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: said this, it was a guy who broke up with someone, 374 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: but it's a guy who broke up with a friend 375 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: of ours, like I like Caitlyn, I respect her. This 376 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: wasn't about let's bury Caitlin and. 377 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: Who's right ahead of the wedding, we were both texting 378 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: both of them like, hey, how are you guys at? 379 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: Where are you guys at? We wanted both of them 380 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: to feel super comfortable at the way, and. 381 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: He did actually give me a lot of leeway to 382 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: go there, and I could have asked some of these 383 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: kind of pointed questions, and you're right in that it 384 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: didn't feel right now. We did dig deep in a 385 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: different direction. We just got so emotional and it got 386 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: so heavy and the show really became about loss and 387 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: about breakups. And I thought it was so much more 388 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: effective and really latable to all of you that this 389 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: wasn't the time for that. And we even said after 390 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: because it was exhausting, and we had a drink and 391 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: he's like, you know, maybe someday we revisit this and 392 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: when things aren't so fresh and you know that the 393 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: wounds have healed a little bit for both of them. 394 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: Well, they were together for I mean, we started dating 395 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: like at a similar time they did, so they'd been 396 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: together four years. 397 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: Five yeah, four or five years. I mean, I remember, 398 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 3: because I think I think I broke the news. 399 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: I remember I interviewed Jason like right when they'd kind 400 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: of first flirted, and I'm pretty sure I broke the 401 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: news at the time, like, oh no, they're really going 402 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 2: out together, right, So I remember that moment, and you know, again, 403 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 2: we love them both and want the best for both 404 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: of them, but it does seem like, like I want 405 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: to get into We actually have a couple of really 406 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: good questions from all of you that we pulled from 407 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 2: our DMS to ask because there are still follow up questions. 408 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: But my first question is, after that interview, do you 409 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: think there's any reconciliation to happen in the future between 410 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: the two of them? 411 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: I mean you romantically, oh, as I say, because the've 412 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: they've reconciled, which I really appreciated. And I will add 413 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: that Jason even talked to Caitlin post, you know, to 414 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: let her know this is coming out. But we were 415 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: very respectful and Caitlin, to my knowledge, has no problem 416 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: with anything that was said, which is wonderful. And it 417 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: also shows how much they've both grown and they can 418 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: be respectful and start talking. And I think our wedding 419 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: had a lot to do with that. We did joke 420 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: about that in the podcast. You know, there was that 421 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: moment you were sitting there too with me when they 422 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: were by our refrigerator in our kitchen and they were. 423 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: Both kind of you know, on the wedding weekend body. 424 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: Language was palpable at the party we had here the 425 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: night before our wedding, but it didn't go there. He 426 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: did admit that I don't see it going there. I 427 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: don't think they should. I think they have made a 428 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: clean break. And while I think sometimes we and I 429 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: say we as fans of them, want that to happen, 430 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: like it would just make us all feel good, I 431 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: don't know if that's what's best for them. I think 432 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: they are growing and going in different directions, and I 433 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: respect that for both of them. 434 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: Well, that's this leads into Christa's question. Christa says Chris 435 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: Jason didn't make it clear why he and Caitlyn decided 436 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: to break up. What happened, or I'll add, what do 437 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: you think happened? 438 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: I know some stuff that happened, you know, from both 439 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: of them, and it's not I'm not going to say 440 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: it was her fault, his fault. It does not matter. 441 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: And I guess that's my main takeaway from the podcast 442 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: was I don't care, and I don't want you to care. 443 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: And I know we all kind of have this insatiable 444 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: appetite for come on, man, give me the dirt, but 445 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: it just I it wasn't about that for me in 446 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: that interview, and I didn't want it to become about that. So, 447 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, none of our business. And I thought about 448 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: myself in my divorce or breakups I've had, and like, 449 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: we don't want to talk about that. I don't care 450 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: whose fault it is. I don't want that to come out. 451 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: I also think that when people have been together that long, 452 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 3: it's not just one thing, of. 453 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: Course, you know. 454 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: I mean, if somebody's in just a relationship a couple 455 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 2: of months and you could you break up, you could 456 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 2: write it off as you know, he was just too 457 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: full of himself, right, Or maybe you're dating six months 458 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: and you find out somebody cheated, Well, I thought I 459 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: knew him and he didn't he cheated, And I don't 460 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: even want to waste any more time. But years and 461 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: years in, it's about it's not that simple. It's about 462 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: more than just an easy answer. I think in every situation, 463 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: and there's rumors out there. You can go online and 464 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: go on the deep reddit web. 465 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: And reddit web, you can go go on drws. Yeah, 466 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: and there's plenty of rumors and in your windows. I'll 467 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: leave that to the tabloids. 468 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: Next up, Ashley says, Jason talked about his age and 469 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 2: how he wants to find his person and start a family. 470 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 3: Oh, it's for me, She says. 471 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: I have a question for Lauren. Before meeting Chris after 472 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: your divorce, did you panic about meeting someone? 473 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: Great question, Ashley. 474 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: Jason and I talked about this just like before and 475 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: after you guys went into record as well, because I 476 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 2: think we're about the same age. I just turned thirty six, 477 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: I think Jays thirty five, and he was telling me that, 478 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: you know, I know he told you that too, and 479 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: I said, like Jason, the answer, the quick answer is no, 480 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: I was not worried about it. Now. Granted, part of 481 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 2: that was probably that I'd been married and I'd just 482 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: gotten divorced, and I was sort of like, you know, 483 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 2: I was. I was ready to be out of this 484 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: situation I was in, So I was just feeling some 485 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: relief there. 486 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: Yet. 487 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you're at in your early mid 488 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: thirties and you have not been married yet, it's impossible 489 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: to not feel that. 490 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 3: There's that societal pressure. 491 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: You're scared you're losing time, you feel like, you know, 492 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: I should be having kids, and you feel all that. 493 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 2: But no, I wasn't, and I guess I would say 494 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: to everybody, really try to not be. I think losing 495 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: my dad taught me this. You just don't know what 496 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: life has planned for you. I mean, my dad died 497 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: in his early fifties, like pretty close to your age, 498 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: and there were a bunch of things he still wanted 499 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: to do, you know, but there are also a bunch 500 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 2: of things he did. And I've really taken that lesson 501 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 2: with me of like, I think you can find happiness 502 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: and sorrow at any age in life, and this, you know, 503 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: panic is really just a product of what we think 504 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 2: our cultural norms are. 505 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you had some advice for Jason. 506 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: Well well, and Jason did say He's like, you know, 507 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: we wasted some good years and we've lost some good years. 508 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, thirty to thirty four, you. 509 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: Know, you know you're looking at it going, dude, you're 510 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: still a baby. 511 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I have the benefit and experience of time, 512 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: so I can look back and realize thirty to thirty four, man, 513 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: I was still figuring things out, and so is he, 514 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: And so I get that obviously you don't know what 515 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: you don't know, and he hasn't lived those those extra years, 516 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: in that extra decade, and so, you know, I look 517 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: at myself and to your point you just made fantastically 518 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: Did I think I would meet the love of my 519 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: life at forty seven. No, I thought it would happen 520 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: a lot earlier. I thought I would have met the 521 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: love of my life and someone who you know. But 522 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: that's when it happened, and that's when I gave myself 523 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: the grace and allowed that to happen. And now I'm 524 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: the happiest I've ever been in my early fifties. And 525 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: so who's to say when it's supposed to happen, And 526 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: who's to say if it had worked out with Caitlin 527 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: and they did get married, that that would have been 528 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: the one. You don't know what life's going to throw 529 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: at you, so give yourself a little bit of a break. 530 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just talking to somebody the other day about, 531 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: you know, because like a lot of young people have 532 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: been through the pandemic right now, Like this was someone 533 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: who's in their twenties and they were like, well, my 534 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: twenties are supposed to be this really fun time, but 535 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: the pandemic screwed it up. And I get that my 536 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: twenties are supposed to be really fun. 537 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 3: My dad dud and the. 538 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: Recession happened and there were no jobs. But like, my 539 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: thirties have been amazing, you know. And I would also 540 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: hope that life only keeps getting better. I know life 541 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: will also continue to send hardships our way, but I've 542 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: just always approached it with like the outlook of it's 543 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: only going to get better from here. 544 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and look, when you take the knife out 545 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: of the wound, it's pretty raw. It's hard to have 546 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: perspective of what I'm grateful for. But you and I 547 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: have this already about our first marriages. There are things 548 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: we're both grateful for, and you can take that later. 549 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: And I think Jason will look back and be like, oh, 550 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: that relationship with Kitlyn wasn't wasted time. I'm grateful that 551 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: I learned this. I learned this about myself. Even if 552 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: it's only learning about yourself and you were with someone 553 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: who was bad, then you're still learning and now you're 554 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: growing and you are a better, bigger person. As you 555 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: head into the next relationship, Jason will know what he's 556 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: looking for more so so well, Caitlin. Next time they'll 557 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: be better prepared well. 558 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: That leads into Laurie's question. She says, Chris, what type 559 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: of partner do you think would be the right fit 560 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: for Jason. 561 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: Jason's a big he's a big lover man. He's a 562 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: big Buffalo lover. He's he's from Buffalo. He's from Buffalo. 563 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, like, he's a down home boy. Family means 564 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: everything to him. Loyalty, that that type of person that's 565 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: just going to really kind of dive in with him. 566 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: Jason is such a good dude. Can I say, like, so, 567 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: when you guys did the podcast, he stayed at our house. 568 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: Yes, not all guests get to sleep over. 569 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: We've never wait, we've never had someone from the show 570 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: no sleep. 571 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: Oh you're right, yeah, no one has. Yeah, he is 572 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: the first to fly to sleep over. Yeah, Firestones here. 573 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: No, oh, you know what they did at our house 574 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: in La Okay, Firestone, I know. 575 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: Well, people have spent the night at my house in 576 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: La before, but no one in Austin. Yeah, no one 577 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 1: in Austin. I told him he was the first one 578 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: I've interviewed here in Austin. And then obviously he stayed 579 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: and we went to dinner afterwards. 580 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: Well, it was great. 581 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 2: To get I had never had that, like one on 582 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 2: one hangout, just not interviewed time with him as much. Yeah, 583 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: and little things you can tell. I think they're a 584 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 2: little basic, tried and true tests of what kind of 585 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 2: person somebody is. Manners, helpfulness. Jason left his room. I'm 586 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: gonna give him a shout out. Jason Tartik left his 587 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: room spotless. He made the bet, he hung up his towel. 588 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: His room was spotless when he left. Not only did 589 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: he do that, he said, Hey, you guys are going 590 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: to the airport too. 591 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: Well, I have a car. Do you want to just 592 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 3: jump in with me? 593 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: Not only did he do that, getting him to the 594 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: airport three hours early for his flight and on time 595 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: for ours. 596 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 3: Yes, that's a sacrifice. 597 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: And I went to the gym, worked doubt, and then 598 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: we came back and we were leaving town going to 599 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: the airport, and I had to, you know, put out 600 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: the trash, and so I was breaking down boxes. So 601 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: Jason started breaking down boxes. He literally took. 602 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: Out our trash. 603 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: He broke down my many Amazon cardboard boxes that I'd 604 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: had from wedding stuff. 605 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: Jason just helped break down boxes at our house. So 606 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 3: he is he's just as good as he seems. 607 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: You know, he's good people, and he's going to do 608 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: just fine. He'll find somebody. It's it's weird. 609 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. 610 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: This might go into Hannah's question. 611 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 2: Oh, Hannah asks Chris, do you think Jason would be 612 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,239 Speaker 2: good on another reality dating show one? 613 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: I think he'd be fantastic on a reality dating show. 614 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: I would love to produce a show for Jason Tartick 615 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: to help him find love. I think that would be 616 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: a great show. And I think he'd be wonderful because 617 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 1: he's so sincere, he's so honest. You're going to get 618 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: such raw emotion from him. What you know, I'm a 619 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: big fan of people of what you see is what 620 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: you get. You know, Sean Lowe was that whether you 621 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: like him or not, it's like, what you see is 622 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: what you get. That that was him, and so I 623 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: think he would be wonderful. 624 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 3: And I think h championing for Jason to be the Bachelor. 625 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was me and Bennett one of the other 626 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: executive producers at the time, benn At Grabner also also 627 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: from Buffalo, So I think there was a Buffalo thing. 628 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: Some the other people just weren't having it, probably because 629 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: we did like him, and I forget who we went 630 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: with instead, care member. Oh gosh, Welton, Well we did 631 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: get the bench. It's all as a Jason. You couldn't 632 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: have made that jump. You're not that athletic. But no, 633 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: and answer to your question, yes, I think he would. 634 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: It would be too soon to do it right this minute, 635 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: but he would be really good. 636 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 3: All right. Just two more quick questions they kind of 637 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: go together, Brett says Chris. I have a question. Do 638 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 3: you think crying is a weak thing for men to do? 639 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: This is a quick answer. 640 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. Take it from a guy who bawled 641 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: like a baby at both of my weddings. I cry 642 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: all the time with my daughter, and yeah, no, it's 643 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: it is not only not a weak thing, it's necessary 644 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: and it's the most empowering, wonderful thing. 645 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: I don't know that you want to be the one 646 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: who's always crying, right, but I think there's nothing stronger 647 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: than showing your emotions, and crying is so vulnerable, and 648 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: there's strength in that vulnerability. 649 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: Colleen. 650 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: I will finish off with this question from Colleen and 651 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: at piggybacks off, bretts Chris, how did you learn how 652 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: to handle people crying to you. You were so good 653 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: at this on the show and on this podcast episode 654 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: with Jason. 655 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: It was off putting it first. It was something I 656 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: had to learn. It was a skill I had to learn. 657 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: I was a dad and so I had a crying 658 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: baby at the time. Josh was very young, so I 659 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: wasn't used to really people crying to me on an 660 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: emotional level like that. So I really didn't know how 661 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: to handle it. But I just think it fit in 662 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: with my Midwestern disposition and the way I grew up 663 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: to be a caretaker, to be empathetic, to listen it. 664 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: It really taught me to just shut up and listen 665 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: because in that moment, people don't need to be fixed. 666 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: They don't need to be told what was right, what 667 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: was wrong, whose fault it was, or they definitely don't 668 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: need the I told you so, they just need to 669 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: cry and they need to just vent, and so just 670 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: being there and it's a skill I learned for sure 671 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: over the last twenty years and has helped me be 672 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: a better husband, a better parent, a better friend, and 673 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: a better podcaster. Sitting with Jason, it allowed me to 674 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: not be uncomfortable and not be awkward. I was like, 675 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: I love you, man, Like let it out, like, let's 676 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: talk about this and not try and jump in and 677 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: ease the moment. Let him cry, like, let him have 678 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: that moment he needed to get that out. It was 679 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: really cathartic. 680 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: And I hate and I do this myself too. For 681 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: some reason, when we all cry, we go to the 682 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: like I'm sorry, Like I'm sorry, I'm crying. This is embarrassing, 683 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Jokey, yeah, And I think especially guys, you know, 684 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: they're like, I'm sorry this, I hate this. And I 685 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: guess that just comes from somewhere in society that tells us, 686 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: you know, don't cry, and that's weak. But I'm so 687 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: ready for that to be a mindset of the past. 688 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for the questions, by the way, everybody, and thanks 689 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: for I mean, these were two of our biggest podcasts 690 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: that we have ever dropped, and a lot of that 691 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: COEs to the demand that Jason is in his popularity. 692 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, I reciprocated and did a Trading 693 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: Secrets podcast with Jason that'll be dropping soon where we 694 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: got into kind of my life in more so business 695 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: as well and told him some things I've never shared before, 696 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: so look for trading secrets his podcast. And again, my 697 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: love to Caitlin, my love to Jay and all of 698 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: you for taking the time to DM message me right 699 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: into at the most dramatic pod ever and give us 700 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: these questions. But thank you very much. We have to 701 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: before we wrap this up. Huge news Oprah. 702 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: Oprah's always huge news. 703 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: The Oprah. She turned seventy. First of all, Happy birthday, Oprah. 704 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 3: An icon. It's a trailblazer. 705 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: It's weird. I know she's been in our lives for forever, 706 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: but she's so timeless. To me, she doesn't grow old. 707 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: It's does she like I mean, I saw a picture 708 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: of I. 709 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: Think she looks amazing, but b she is always so 710 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: energetic and positive that I think it feels youthful. 711 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: One of the things I want to talk about. And 712 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: she's an icon and someone I respect and I know 713 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: you do too, as far as a journalist and things 714 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: she accomplished in this business. But besides that, there's a 715 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: reason she looks so fantastic, and she talked about that, 716 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: and she has been very open about being on a 717 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: weight loss drug. 718 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: We wanted to talk about it because I feel like 719 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: you and I talk about this a lot, like I mean, 720 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: for everybody the ozembic weight loss drug conversation. 721 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the other one? Yeah? 722 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: No, not with maybe. 723 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: I think you're right, but it has been I mean 724 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: I've listened to other podcasts on it, and what's fascinating 725 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: is the conversation keeps continuing. 726 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: And I think it's because this drug is not done. 727 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked to friends of ours who own 728 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: a pharmacy and they're telling us, well, this is bigger 729 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: than the biggest drug ever is known as viagra. And 730 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: this is bigger because it can apply to both, you know, 731 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: sides of the population, men and women, and because you 732 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: know a lot of people want to be on it, 733 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: whether it's for health issues or just for aesthetic purposes. 734 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 2: It's controversial, but also you know, are people on it 735 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: in secret? A lot of celebrities seem to be. So 736 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 2: the conversation just keeps happening, and we have more questions 737 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: than answers, I think because I've been hearing and reading 738 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: articles about how you know it's going to be start 739 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: to be used on kids if it isn't already. So 740 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: lots of questions, lots of backlash, and I was fascinated 741 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: by and I said, we got to talk about the 742 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: Oprah of it all, because my question here is can 743 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: a reveal from Oprah that she is on a weight 744 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: loss medication and a proud reveal she said, she's the 745 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: quote is I am absolutely done with the shaming end quote. 746 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: She said she is using weight loss medication as a 747 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: maintenance tool. And you know she touches on in this 748 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: in this It's People magazine cover story, she touches on 749 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: her past because Oprah's known for being open about her 750 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: weight struggles. Right that the famous Your career, Yeah, the 751 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 2: famous episode she pulled out the wagon that had like 752 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: the representation of all the fat on her body that 753 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 2: she'd lost. 754 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: And she's yo yo through the years. So the marathon 755 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: stuff and all that that, it's always been a thing 756 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: with her. 757 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 3: So she said, quote, it was public sport to make 758 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 3: fun of me. 759 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 2: For twenty five years, I have been blamed and shamed, 760 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 2: and I blamed and shamed myself. She talks about being 761 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 2: called dumpy and frumpy by tabloids, and now she says 762 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 2: that as she is set to term seventy, she wants 763 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: to maintain a healthy weight long term be done with 764 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 2: the shame and that she is on a weight loss 765 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 2: medication after what she calls weight fluctuations over fifty years 766 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: of her life. She says, yes, I did the yo 767 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: yo thing. She said, I believe my willpower was failing 768 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: and she's done with it. So can Oprah being this 769 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 2: open and this positive turn the tide, can it stop 770 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: the backlash? 771 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 3: Does she have the power to do that? 772 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: She does for sure? If I'm being Devil's advocate, this 773 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: is a wonderful find and an invention that we discovered this, 774 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: And I do want to talk to medical experts to 775 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: see is it a ninety nine percent chance that it's 776 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: going to be okay and there's really only a one 777 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: percent chance this can happen to you? 778 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 2: Or is it? 779 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 3: Those are the big questions that I have. 780 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: I feel the percentage Well, I just want like the 781 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 2: real story from someone, because I think there's a lot 782 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: of a lot of arguing, a lot of probably misinformation 783 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 2: out there. I'm just like, I want to know that. 784 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: I'll use myself as an example because we do want 785 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 2: to have someone if I went on this tomorrow, what 786 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 2: would the risks be for me? Like, That's what I 787 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 2: want to know, and I know the answer isn't going 788 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: to be the same for everybody, but I just want 789 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: to know what are the risks if you're kind of 790 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 2: a healthy weight in only taking it to lose some weight. Now, well, 791 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: I'm not saying, you know, listen, Oprah, this was her choice, 792 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 2: Like she said, she struggled with. 793 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 3: It for years. 794 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 2: I bring this up and I was fascinated by it because, 795 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: like how some real housewives have admitted to being on it, 796 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: some have been accused of being on it and haven't 797 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 2: admitted whether they are or not. But I do think 798 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: Oprah has the power to maybe quiet some of the 799 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: backlash because I think people respect that she's already shared 800 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: her journey and spent years of struggle. 801 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: There is a new podcast called Two Jersey Jays with 802 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: Jackie Goldschneider and Jennifer Fessler. By the way, with iHeartRadio 803 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: happens to be under the most dramatic pod umbrella, so 804 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: our shout out to the Two Jersey Jays, who are 805 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: in the top ten of all podcasts. So congratulations, ladies. 806 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: But they are talking a lot about ozempic. One of 807 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: them very much on it, the other one not quiet and. 808 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 2: Was she the one who had the major medical issue. 809 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 2: There was a real housewife who was hospitalized and. 810 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: So I'll let you look that up. And they're talking 811 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: a lot about that. So give give two Jersey Jays 812 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: a listen where all podcasts can be found. I'm proud 813 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: of them for doing a great job. And another medical 814 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: question I really want to dive into is what is 815 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: the percentage of fat you're losing? What is the percentage 816 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: of muscle you're losing? Are you losing the muscle mass? 817 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: And you know, everyone kind of has this ozimpic body 818 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: they're talking about, and that is the kind of stuff 819 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: that because I'm really into the health stuff and so 820 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: are you and eating healthy and all that, and I 821 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: encourage people to get that info. But we are going 822 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: to have these medical experts on very soon on one 823 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: of our episodes to dive more into this. But I mean, 824 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: this is how crazy it is. I went to breakfast 825 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 1: with two of my buddies this morning. We were talking 826 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: about it. We were talking about ozimpic. So it's at 827 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: every breakfast table and every dinner table, and it's a 828 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: big hot topic and I am a big fan, and 829 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: so is Lauren of Let's get the facts. 830 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 3: Like what is the ch you'll see if it comes 831 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 3: up at your Christmas dinner table, past. 832 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: The yams and the ozembic and in that vein. Merry Christmas, everybody. 833 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: It's a big week, Laura and I send our love 834 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: to you to your families. I hope it finds you 835 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: in good health and we all have a wonderful holiday 836 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: week and head into a phenomenal new year. Thank you 837 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: for being with us. It's been a great year to 838 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: celebrate with you. Have a great holiday, and we'll talk 839 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: to you again soon because we have a lot more 840 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: to talk about. Thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram 841 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: at the most dramatic pod ever and make sure to 842 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: write us a review and leave us five stars. I'll 843 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: talk to you next time.