WEBVTT - Tamara Mello Meets World 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.320 So we're gonna talk about one of Rider's favorite subjects today. Well, 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.200 it's loosely is that medical stuff? 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:23.480 Food? 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:29.200 No food? Do you see food? Okay? So yes, food. 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.080 So here's why I traveled to go get some food 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:34.000 when my ankle was hurting. 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.599 No, I'm kidding. No, So because it kind of is. 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.839 Going to go into what we're talking about today with 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.920 our guest and with the recap that we've just done, 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.800 because Sue and I have kind of been on a 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.960 little bit of a hunt for just a great we're 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.879 big cheeseburger fans. We don't like, we don't eat them 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.640 a lot, but a hunt around to go find the 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:54.400 best cheeseburger. 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.760 And somebody told us about a place called the munch Box. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.600 Now, the reason that the Munchbox is so famous not 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:04.840 only because it makes you giggle every time you say it. 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.440 It's been around since the fifties, but it is where 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:10.720 so it used to be across the street from a 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:16.600 strip club. And all this is a this is all truth. 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:18.480 You can all look at all this up. And it 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:22.640 is where Charles Manson used to hang out when he 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.319 dropped his girls off at the strip club to make money. 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.200 And when you go there. 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.760 Now, there's actually a stone that he wrote he'd like 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.520 carved his name in, so it says Charles Manson was here. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:34.080 So we're like. 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:38.479 Eating our burgers in like this culty kind of place. 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.039 So it goes all with all the cold stuff. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.520 So I saw a stone the other It was a 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.959 great burger and they put chili on everything. No, no, no, 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.440 just the right amount, so it's like you just get 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.680 this hint of smokiness. It was quite wonderful. The history 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:52.800 of the munchbox was great. 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.040 That is great. So you don't mean chili's like you 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:57.240 mean chili chili. 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.720 Yeah, they put chili on their burgers, on their dogs 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:00.640 and on as well. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.480 When you get it with culture, you. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:03.480 Can you can. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.160 You can also know because they put just the right 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:06.800 amount on it, you could still taste the meat. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.400 Is very wonderful. And I was very wonderful. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.000 Yeah, you recently told me about a great burger place 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:14.000 near our house. 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:15.959 Let's smash. Yeah awesome. 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:17.799 I know I haven't been there yet. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.960 Oh it's marvelous. It is a marvelous, marvelous place. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.400 Yes, okay, I do love a good cheeseburger. I know 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.560 this is writer has nothing to add to this, except 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.280 for the fact that he told us about a great 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:31.280 cheeseburger place near his place that's like a like a 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:32.440 McDonald's but better. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:38.360 Yeah, which is not possible. Burgers never say die. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:40.800 Speaking of round things that you eat, we won't call 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.120 it food. But I have a question for you, Danielle, 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.520 because it's a question my wife and I post to 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:50.160 each other. We often ask ourselves very deep philosophical questions 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:50.760 that then lead. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:51.280 To other things. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.440 It's our own form of pre show chatter that my 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:57.239 wife and I like to age it. If you had 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.560 to give up either donuts or bagels for the rest 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.960 of your life, which would when she was a kid, 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.360 that's not a word for me, I know, because I 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:08.639 know how much you love donuts. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.640 But you'd never have a bagel again. That would you 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:12.480 be okay with that? 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:18.240 Yes, a bagel is just a hard donuts. That's what 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.640 I say to. You can do so much more with 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:24.360 bagels than you can. Sure, And I do like bagels. 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.720 I like sweet bagels, I like everything bagels. I like 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.400 all kinds of bagels, I love all kinds of smears. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:38.400 I like it. Would never even don't do it. Don't 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:51.000 do it. And we talked about munch box. That's an ash, guys. No, 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.600 I would never. I wouldn't even I wouldn't miss it. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.280 I would if you told me I could, I had 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.360 to choose. I wouldn't think about a bagel again for 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.760 the rest of my life. My brain would. They would 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:01.840 be white from my brain. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.840 But doughnuts, Okay. It's like the food or sex question. 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:07.000 Do you have if you have to give it by 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:08.520 the food or sex, which would you give up? 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.000 I mean that's so easy. 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:18.880 Yeah again, if we can magically not die, you'll take sex. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:23.120 Yeah, but like, yeah, so you never you'd keep sex 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:24.360 in your life and never eat again? 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:25.760 If you would, if you'd still be alive. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:30.640 Yes, absolutely, I would so miss sex while covered in 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:31.359 pizza sauce. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.479 I like sex, I do. That's great. But oh man, 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.159 have you ever had a let smash? They're phenomenal. Put 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.760 a little chili on it perfectly. 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.720 Just don't get the chili near the munchbox. Welcome to 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.240 Bobby's world. I'm Danielle Fishall. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:55.120 Wilferdell. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.720 We knew that tackling an episode as iconic and as 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.560 bt ish crazy a cult fiction would bring up a 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.960 lot of questions. Maybe We didn't expect as many about 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.400 monotheistic religions, but we knew some new thoughts would go 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.760 totally unanswered, and one of them was, who is this 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.360 Sherry and where is she now? She may have ensorceled 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.640 Sean into a cult, like she's a Los Angeles pastor 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.839 putting together a TikTok dance crew to abandon their families, 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.080 but she also was so good in the episode we 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.680 wanted to know more about her, and so we tracked 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.160 her down and asked her to join us. The Orange 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.839 County born actress is best known as Chandler in the 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.680 classic movie She's All That and as Lily Esposito in 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:40.080 the early career Ryan Murphy TV show Popular. She was 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.520 also seen on Seventh Heaven, Jag and Psych and in 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.400 the criminally underrated Brady Bunch movie. Later, she would decide 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.680 to step away from acting to raise her daughter, and 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.279 in a weird twist of fate, the week we found 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.440 her on Instagram, she announced she was dipping her toe 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.000 back into acting, a decision we for one, are happy about. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.159 Today on Meets World, we welcome a terrible influence on Sean, 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.440 but someone we are very excited to reunite with anyway, 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:14.000 it's Tamra mellow. Yeah, well, welcome. We are so excited 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:17.360 to see you. Well, we are so excited that you're 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.279 joining us today. This is a very rare occurrence for 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.159 us where a guest star had an even crazier storyline 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.919 on Boy Meets World than they did on Seventh Heaven. 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.440 I seem to consistently play a creep. 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.960 Is Sherry your creepiest character? 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.480 You know? I gotta say so. I watched it last night. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.479 I don't think I've seen it since it aired. It's 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:49.200 a real trip revisiting not yeah, like I hadn't had 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:50.440 my visial line yet. 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:51.760 Oh, I think it was. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.200 I think it was my first job. I think it 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.960 was my first job. Really yeah. But looking at this 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:03.200 particular episode through the lens of today is startling. 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:04.440 Yeah. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.680 Wow, Okay, So I have so many questions. Do you 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.760 remember auditioning for the part? 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:09.600 Yeah? 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.280 I do, because I had to audition so many times, 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.280 did you Yeah, which is so weird for a guest star, 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:19.679 But I remember it being a lot of times. 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.040 They tended to do that for this special episodes we've had. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.680 Really yeah, other guest cast come on, who say, like 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.120 I had to read four times. I had to read 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.080 five times for kind of some of the bigger episodes. 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:30.960 So I think they were putting all their eggs in 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:31.920 the cult basket for. 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:34.600 There were really this episode. They're pushing that one. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.160 Yeah, it was a very special episode. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:37.720 Yeah. 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.720 Had you watched any Boy Meets World before you auditioned 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:41.280 for it? Oh? 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.080 Yeah, I knew the show. You guys were like iconic 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.880 by this time. You know, my fourth season, you guys 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:51.120 were everywhere. So I knew this show. And for me, 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.800 as like a baby just starting out actor, like the 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.400 stakes were very high, Like getting this job was a 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.080 really big deal. Yeah. 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.440 Do you remember what your thoughts were the first time 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.000 you read the script? 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.680 You know, I don't because it was so long ago. 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.880 But it's funny because watching it back last night, when 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.960 Sean is confronted and told that only a handful of 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:23.240 people care about him, I said, well that's me. Five 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.320 seconds later, my character is like, only a handful of 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:32.080 people care about you. But truly, this was at this 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.040 point in my life. I had probably read Helter Skelter 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:39.520 four times. You're laying a cult member like that was 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:49.520 my reel house rights. 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.640 During our rewatch, we were really impressed by you because 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.920 between you and Jerry Levine, you two really ground a 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.160 storyline that could have just completely gone off the rails 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:03.360 in the first thirty seconds. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:04.200 So nice. 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.160 Do you remember any approach you had going into the 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:13.480 role or any notes you were given about the week, Ash. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:18.200 I honestly don't. I think I was so nervous. I 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.560 was so nervous because truly, like I'd maybe done like 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.400 one like tiny budget independent film before, but I had 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:30.560 never done multi cam certainly, and so it was a 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:34.400 real like crash course in like acting for the camera. 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.839 Wow, it didn't come across that way, come across so 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:42.360 confident and you're so you're so centered, you're so grounding. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:44.360 No, but I mean it's what works, you know. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.480 It's like that when you're in your we were commented 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.040 or the fact that you're like seeing in the background 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.280 like lurking, which is a little weird, but then like 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.160 once you're in the scene, like once you and I 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.400 are hanging out and talking, it's like, oh, this is 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.079 really comfortable. In fact, to me, I was a little 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.200 like the fact that we're like holding hands with the 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.720 second I was like, oh, oh, we're like have we 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.280 been dating for a while. All of a sudden, I'm like, 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.960 we're so relaxed. It's a little a little maybe too much. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.160 But it's a group for me very quickly, and well. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.079 Yeah that's what we because we already did a recap 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.960 where we watched it and like we ended up talking 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.520 about that, like this whole thing takes place in one day, 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.120 Like I am a full cult member by the end 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:22.960 of one after Yeah, it maybe it. 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.520 Takes you an hour to be convinced that even though 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.400 you call it, you're like, this is a cult and 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.000 we're LA and then you're like, sign me up. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:31.160 Yep, I know. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.720 I mean even said, like you even point out, oh 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.599 you laughed there, that's that's a mask people used to 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:41.280 hide it, and then thirty seconds later the whole place laughs, 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.600 and it's never acknowledged that, Like, wait a minute, you're 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.280 the one who just taught me that that's a mask 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:50.640 for something. That part's definitely a little little crazy. Do 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:56.720 you remember there being any specific mentions of Scientology during 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.679 the week, because we had talked about whether or not 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:03.120 the cold was kind of a veiled I just play 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.160 on scientology in LA. Do you remember it ever being 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:07.160 mentioned outwardly. 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.600 No, I don't think anyone mentioned it outwardly. And actually 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.080 I don't even think I clocked it until like when 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.600 we were watching it last night and he's like, no, 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:20.080 that room's for celebrities, and my husband went, oh, it's scientology, right, 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:21.600 I didn't even clock it. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:23.600 When I watch it, they were like, that's scientology. They 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:24.160 had to tell me. 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.480 It was like, that's directly, Okay, that's a direct reference 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:27.119 of scientology. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:28.000 I had no idea. 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:28.320 Yeah. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.920 And the funny thing is, I remember talking to Jerry 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:36.960 about religion, like very specifically about religion, but I I 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.280 don't even think we chatted about cults. 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.440 Right, yeah, the cults. Really though, when you watched the episode, 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.120 it was something writer or pointed out is that it 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.160 was actually much less an episode about a cult more 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.480 than it ended up feeling about an episode about the 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.400 importance of monotheistic religion. Perhaps. 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:57.160 Yeah, my son, my seventeen year old son, goes, wow, 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.240 this just got religious real quick. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.720 Yeah. And by the way, if you've watched every episode 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.840 of Boy Meets World leading up to that, it also 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.440 still it feels like that because the show isn't overtly 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.560 religious often no, certainly not up until that point, So 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.160 it does feel a little like it comes on the only. 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:19.199 Thing we've ever done is celebrate Christmas so far, I think, right, Like, yeah, 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:19.680 I think. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:21.760 That's kind of generic and not. 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.319 Yeah, yeah, we never talk about church, like our characters 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:25.480 never talk about any of that. 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.040 Yeah, yeah, I did think. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.320 It was an interesting choice, especially for you know, it 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:33.880 was like a major network Friday night like show, and 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.200 I don't know how common that was back then. I 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.959 don't remember, but I have to say, writer, you handled 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.840 it beautifully. You had that like we'll talk to God. 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:44.800 It's a. 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:48.760 Very heavy handed, but it was lovely. 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.160 Yeah, he did do a nice job. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.520 But it would have been, like it's so funny how 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.680 your character just disappears from the episode, Like it would 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.600 have been so great to resolve, like if Sean had 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.880 just sort of have like gone back to the center 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:03.920 to get his things and like had like had a 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.760 mister Mac and Sherry car like maybe gotten you out 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.800 of the colt. Like yeah, but as it is, it's 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.760 like you just disappear and like this cult is just 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:12.720 gonna keep existing. 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.319 And I don't know, mister Mack could have killed her 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:16.679 for the power that she held. 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.040 That's why we never saw it again. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.880 Well, here's the thing about mister Mac. I mean, like, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:25.120 let's talk about this character like he's he's a kidnapper at. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:26.080 Best, right. 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.240 Do you know he's just housing all these underage children 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.800 and them it's real, real creepy. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:36.560 Yeah, do you remember? 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.120 Well, I'm sorry, Danielle, I just because maybe you can 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.600 answer this because we we talked about it but couldn't 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:43.600 ride or thinks, but we couldn't really remember. 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.080 Was there an audience that week? Yes? 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.640 There was, okay, perfect, We couldn't We couldn't remember if 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:51.160 it was done in front of the live studio audience 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:52.839 or not. Some of them aren't with some of the 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:54.960 bigger swing sets and stuff, so we couldn't remember if 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:56.000 this was one of those episodes. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.280 Yeah, yeah, it was. It was. It was an audience, okay, 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.199 and that was one for me because I'd only ever 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.000 done theater. So you know, I mean, you guys know 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.520 that energy from an audience. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:07.960 Is so it's the best. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:23.080 Yeah, you mentioned working with Jerry. What other memories do 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:24.800 you have about working with him this week? You guys 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.440 obviously got to work pretty closely together. 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.840 We did, and honestly, I only remember that one conversation 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:31.440 or I don't know if it was one conversation. I 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.520 think it was an ongoing conversation. But I remember him 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:42.120 telling me that, like that Judaism is the smartest religion 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.160 because it is all based in facts, Like all of 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:51.440 the things are based in fact, like you know, don't 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.080 eat pork, you could probably get sick from it, like 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.760 stuff like that. That I was just like, you're right, 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.600 interesting me, Like that was my takeaway is that the 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.800 Jews have got it right and everybody else another. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:11.800 Really, that's the best possible story you could have. I mean, 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.760 I've never asked a question on a podcast and had 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:16.800 someone deliver. 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:21.840 So was behind the seeds Loki converting you. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.400 Or probably not even converted you, just letting you know 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.480 the telling you proselytized it. 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.400 So that's the thing. So Judaism is the best religion. Bo. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.400 So if we ever, if we ever wondered if behind 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.520 the seeds of boy Bet World there was a religious. 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.040 Agenda there, it is. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.280 Okay, let's go let's go back a little bit. You've 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.160 mentioned that this may have been your first show. It 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.920 was certainly your first multiicam. How what was your origin story? 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.720 How did you decide to become an actor. 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:05.640 Well, I I wanted the love and affection of my father. 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:11.520 Okay, I love it. Interview We've ever done. 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:12.960 It? 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:14.880 Now? 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.720 I was, I was in college. I was in acting school, 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:22.240 and then I I got an agent, and so I 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:26.000 dropped out of college and I started. I started working, 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.600 and it was slow, you know, like I had a 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.920 job at the Beverly Center and I sold shoes, but 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.560 I am it was called privilege. It's now the Louis 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:36.240 Vuitton score. 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.920 Oh I love that Privilege became the Louis Vauton store. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:41.240 I like it. 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:47.880 That's privileges origin story exactly. Yeah. I just I started 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:51.080 getting jobs like like Boy Meets World and like doing 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.320 little guest stars and and that's how it started. And 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.560 I was, you know, it was sort of the time 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:01.160 when people were really looking it. It was like like 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:06.800 teenage shows and movies were having this renaissance. Definitely, so 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.359 I was lucky, Like you know, I was. I was 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.320 in my twenties, but I looked like I was fifteen, 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:13.240 and right, I was. 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:14.800 Going to say, you must have been slightly older than 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.080 if you already in college. Yeah, because I was seventeen 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.880 and ninety seven so you were in nineteen twenty or. 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:22.480 Yeah, I think it was probably twenty one. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.800 Wow. Okay, And so you did the Brady Bunch movie, 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.680 which is such a big production and with how beloved 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.400 the TV show was a pretty hope, high profile set 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.520 to be on so early in your career. Where did 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:37.880 the Brady Bunch Movie fall in relation to your guest 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.320 star on Boymet's World? 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.439 I think it was probably very shortly after, Like I 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:48.760 remember it in like where was I living? Yeah, so yeah, 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.600 I think it was really shortly after Boyman. 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.720 What was What was that set experience? 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.560 Like, you know, it was fine. I think I was 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.720 ultimately cut out of the movie. You might see me 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:03.480 for two seconds. So what it was, by no means 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:04.080 my big break. 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.720 You are seeing there's photos of you on the internet 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:08.040 in it? 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:08.920 Oh is that true? 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:09.480 Yes? 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:13.800 Oh okay, cool? It was. 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:14.520 It was cool. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.800 It was a big set, It was a big production. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.760 So I was a little bit like I remember like 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.720 getting my call time and you know, I was like, Okay, 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:26.880 I'm going to start work the next day and everything's 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:28.720 going to be cool, and I get a panicked call 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.399 from an a D who was like where are you? 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.120 You're supposed to be here, and I'm like, my call. 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.919 She says tomorrow, it's tomorrow, and he's like, no, it's today, 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.840 Get here, So like, can you imagine that kind of 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.080 awful panic? It's like one of your first jobs and 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:47.560 I'm like rushing to Taft High School from Venice it was. 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:49.000 Yeah. 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.920 Will loves locations most. 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:56.560 So listen. 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.720 He lights up from the inside and he is familiar. 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.159 He knows a place and maybe as a cousin who 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:04.080 went to school there. 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.560 Listen, we all have different things that light us up. 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:11.320 I love locations. Danielle likes your kids. It's different. It's 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:11.800 what it is. 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:14.040 We all have copies. 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:18.800 Yes, thank you. Where are you right now? Exactly right? 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:22.440 Where do you currently live? 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:25.919 Really? 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.520 Drop a pin? Drop a pin? Okay? 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:33.840 So I want to talk very briefly also about Seventh Heaven, 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.560 because I think a year before you joined us on 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.000 Boy Meets World, you were on Seventh Heaven, which has 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.000 always been said to be a fun set filled with 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.280 other kids, and there's plot lines like siblings almost kissing 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.800 each other and a diner owner pressing charges on a 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.000 child who stole a drinking glass. What are your memories? 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:52.320 Wait? 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:53.120 Is that true? 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.480 Is that real the ones you just said, there's one 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.080 where siblings almost kiss. 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.440 Yes, I just read about this. Did you read about 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.000 it recently? Because I think Beverly Johnson was talking about 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:02.680 it or something. 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:04.359 They were practicing. 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.040 They were practicing, right, and then the dad saw them 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:10.639