1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: What is up? Everybody? Welcome into a Wednesday edition of 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: am your host, John Harris, and so excited about one 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: thing in particular didn't even happen at today's practice. I 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: am excited about one thing in particular in that Tomorrow's Thursday. 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: And why is that important? A. It's August first, so 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: we're into August. And B you all get to see 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: this team for the first time in twenty nineteen. I 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: love that. I love that because you've been listening to 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: us talk about this team for so long, all the 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: way back to OTA's the draft you got. I mean, honestly, 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: you didn't even get a chance to see Max Sharping, 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: Titus Howard, even Lennie Johnson. You get seeing those guys 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: in college. Now you get to see them for the 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: first time. Obviously, there'll be some fan favorites called Glassbia 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: from from Taylor High School, and Katie and played at 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: A and m Charles Minerhu from the University of Texas, 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: so it'll be some local favorites. But I know everybody 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: wants to come in and see this team, and I'm 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: pumped that the people get to see this team and 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: start feeling the way that we do about it. Tomorrow's 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: practice in front of the fans as a Saturday, So 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: Thursday and Saturday, so the next two practices because the 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: Texans will go on the field tomorrow and then they'll 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: get off on Friday, and then they'll come back on 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: Saturday and practice front the fans, and then Sunday flying 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: to Green Bay get ready for the Packers on Monday 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: and Tuesday. Wednesday will be kind of walked through, pregame, 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: walk through all that kind of stuff. Then Thursday, Wow, 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: we are eight days away. Eight days is my math? Right? 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: Eight days? Does that sound right? Tomorrow it'll be a week. Yeah, 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: eight days away from preseason game number one. I'm pumped 33 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: about that now. I was pretty excited about some of 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: the things I saw today at practice. We'll go through 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: some of those. We're gonna hear from a lot of 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 1: people tonight. We're gonna hear from in this first segment, 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, jj Wa, DeShawn Watson, we're gonna hear from 38 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: Darren Fells. And then this morning, as I do each 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: and every morning, at nine o'clock, I am challenged by 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: Mark Vannimer to do this in two sentences, But I 41 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: talked about every single player at a particular position. Today. 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: It was defensive line, and that's a big group to 43 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: have to try and get through. And there are a 44 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: few of those guys that start today actually in practice 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: on the defensive line. Mister Angelo Blackson was all kinds 46 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 1: of fantastic today on the defensive line. Down and wasn't 47 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: It was goal line rushing the past a little bit 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: stopped in the round. He showed a little bit of everything. 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: He's a guy that Texans brought in twenty seventeen because 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: they needed bodies on the defensive line. They need some 51 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: bodies up there, and he's come along and been a 52 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: really key factor for this defensive line. And this year 53 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: he came back a little bit slimmer, quicker, but if 54 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: as good, if not better than he was last year. 55 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: And I thought he was really really good. So we 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: got a lot of people to talk to in this show. 57 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: Let's kick it off with our Texans audio juke box. Yeah, 58 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: that's a new segment I've come up with. Then I 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: do that I've done this for a long time and 60 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: I used to I guess I call them hot reads. 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: It's not really hot reads, it's more audio from from 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: individuals that I've gone to the podium and Wednesdays during 63 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: the year, and today it's the same three people at podium. 64 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: It's Bill O'Brien, it's J. J. Watt, and it's DeShawn Watson. 65 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: So let's open up the Texans audio jukebox and let's 66 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: start with Bill O'Brien, who loves a little bit of 67 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: goal line drill. And here's why. I mean, you know, yeah, yeah, 68 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: I like it. It's a it's a you know, it's 69 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: a short space, live contact drill that in football. If 70 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: you look at the history of football, you know, it's 71 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: always been that's kind of what it's all about. You know, 72 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: you're trying to gain two yards and they're trying to 73 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: stop you in It's very intense and it's fun and 74 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, guys, guys, guys love doing it. Guys absolutely 75 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: love doing it. When I was a linebacker or a 76 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: strong safety, I loved it because there's no throwing. It's 77 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: just you're eleven on my eleven pounded in with the 78 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: running back Stephen keeping out of the end zone. And 79 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: today it was as physical a drill, a couple of 80 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: big hits, one by Angelo Blackson, Colin Glasbia going u 81 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: toe to toe with JJ Watt, which I'm sure had 82 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: to be weird for Gilly, but excellent, excellent drill and 83 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: wins on both sides. Peter Canellbidy made one of a 84 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: hell of a play to Mario A. Crockett ran one 85 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: in which was fantastic. It was a really really good 86 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: drill to kind of keep to kind of keep things going. 87 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: It was right near the end, it wasn't quite the end. 88 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: They really inserted some juice into the practice, no doubt 89 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: about that now. As I mentioned, one of the guys 90 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: that made a play down on the goal line was 91 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: running back to Maria Crockett. He's a rookie out of Missouri. 92 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: He's undrafted free agent. Coach had this to say about 93 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: the Maria Crockett. I mean, he runs hard. You know, 94 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: he runs hard. He's a great kid. He works hard 95 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: on special teams. He's quiet, he's got a good attitude. 96 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: You know, I've seen some good things. I mean, you know, 97 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how him and Higden and 98 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: all those guys. M the younger guys play in the 99 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: in the games. The preseason games. When you think about 100 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: Crockett and all these different running backs, I don't imagine 101 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna see Lamar Miller much in the preseason. But 102 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: with all these different running backs, I thought a good friend, 103 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: Stephanie Stradly asked a pre good question, how do you 104 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: sort of divvy up the running back reps amongst this 105 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: whole group in practice and in the games. You know, 106 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: when you have a guy like Lamar that's played so 107 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: much football in this league, you know you're you're monitoring 108 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: his reps making sure that he's getting the necessary reps 109 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: to get him ready for the season. I mean, he's 110 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: on the team, and so the other ones who haven't 111 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: played as much football, you really have to see where 112 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: they're at, whether they're brand new or they're coming off 113 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: injury or so. It's just kind of, like I said 114 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: the other day, is kind of like different strokes for 115 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: different folks. You know, some guys are in certain categories, 116 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: some guys are in another category. One of the big 117 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: talking points in the next week is gonna be Aaron Rodgers. 118 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: That's one of the guys that the coaching staff has 119 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: shown to the Shawn Watson when he was a young player. 120 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: In fact, the last couple of years, they would show 121 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: him from Aaron Rodgers film and that's gonna be a 122 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: big talking point. And well, coaches asked why Aaron Rodgers? 123 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: What is it about Aaron Rodgers that was valuable to 124 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: you to use in discussing with the Shawn how he 125 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: could potentially add that to his game because talked about that. Yeah, 126 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean we showed him a lot of tape. I mean, 127 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Obviously, you know, Houston Texans tape 128 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: to teach our offense was the primary tape that we 129 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: were showing him. We actually watched a lot of tape 130 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: from when he played at Clemson, you know. But yeah, 131 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Aaron Rodgers. You know, you're you're talking 132 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: about one of the best has to ever do it. 133 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna see him in a week. And 134 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: you know, I think when you're watching a guy play, 135 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: you don't really know exactly what's going on in that offense, 136 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: but you can tell that the guy has great command 137 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: of the offense. You know, how to how the offense 138 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: needs to be run, how to get in and out 139 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: of a play, how to you know, look at something 140 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: that really might not be a good look and change 141 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: that play, and understanding defense and then understanding having a 142 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: feel for the rush and knowing when you can hold 143 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 1: onto it and when you can get rid of it quick. 144 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: And you know, vision down the field, feel the rush, 145 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: see the coverage, you know all the things you can show, 146 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: but you don't really know the offense. So you're just 147 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: showing him some things that you know that you think 148 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: might help him relative to a guy that's a great player. 149 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's fip this over to one J. J Watt. Now. 150 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: JJ was asked any number of things, but one of 151 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: the things obviously he that has been something that stood out. 152 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: If you will the off days, JJ is now thirty, 153 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: how do you keep him fresh? JJ said, Hey, managing 154 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: the off days is gonna help. And I get on 155 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: the field, I'm going all out, baby, we are managing. 156 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: I got to take off and I took it off 157 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: day after the first two days. I'll take off day 158 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: basically every third day. It's kind of how we're trying 159 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: to plan it. Um, it'll get mixed up here and there, 160 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: but just I mean, just just when I'm practicing, I 161 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: want to practice. That's basically what we've talked about I mean, 162 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to be on a repcount 163 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: during a practice. So instead of that, I'll take a 164 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: practice off and I'll go run or I'll do rehab 165 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: or whatever they want me to do. So um, but 166 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: when I mean I love to play football, I love 167 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: so if I'm on the field, I want to be 168 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: on the field. Absolutely, get yourself on the field, baby Villa. 169 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: And when he's there, and that's that's true sometimes, And 170 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: that was kind of going back to our point originally 171 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: about putting a guy like JJ on the the active 172 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: pup bliss to start the year. It's kind of the 173 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: save themselves because what JJ's out a practice, you want 174 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: him to practice because yes, it's annoying to go against 175 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: him in some sense when you're the offense, because I've 176 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: heard that from a lot of different people, but it 177 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: can't be annoying, but it's very helpful because you're going 178 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: against the best of the game. NFL players said he's 179 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: number twelve, but disagree, but you're going gets one of 180 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: the greatest defensive players of all time every single day. 181 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 1: When it takes a break and it takes an off day, 182 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: take it off. We don't even want to get another 183 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: guy's reps. You know, we don't have JJ for that 184 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: whole entire day. It's not gonna be Hey, three reps here, 185 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: then you're off for a series three. No, I like 186 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: the way they've done that. Today. You're in use them 187 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: as you would in that practice tomorrow out. Don't have 188 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: to worry about it now. When you're in training camp mode. 189 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 1: You got to make sure that you get your naps in. 190 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: JJ said, yep, I still do that, and I've got 191 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: the bed down in equipment room too. You find a way. 192 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I still have my bed in the training 193 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: or in the equipment room, so I use that in 194 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: the middle of the day at night as soon as 195 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: I go home, I basically recover my body and then 196 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: go straight to bed. It gets a little tougher when 197 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: you wake up at four forty five morning, but you 198 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: find a way. And I mean, sleep is nature's best 199 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: recovery tool, so I try and use as much as 200 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: I can. Interesting, sleep is nature's best recovery tool, which 201 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: is is so true, so completely true. And if you 202 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: don't get it, well, welcome to the Harris family. Yeah, 203 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: that's exactly what happens in the Harris family. Now let's 204 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: go to our man, Sean Watson. He of course strode 205 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: to the podium. He was asked a lot about Aaron Rodgers. 206 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: That was something that John McClain asked a Bill O'Brien, 207 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: and it was gonna be something that John asked of 208 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. And this is what Sean had to say 209 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: about what he's learned from Aaron Rodgers. The biggest thing 210 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: was really just keeping plays alive and always looking for guys, 211 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: you know, regardless if you're scrambling outside the pocket, I'm 212 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: moving around inside the pocket. He's always looking for, you know, 213 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: open receiver and if he had a connection with open receivers, 214 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: it's another factor that the defense had to take care 215 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: of um and have to worry about. And it makes 216 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: the defense a lot more dangerous because the players never 217 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: over in and it's uh, you know, for any dB, 218 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: regardless of who you are, it's hard to you know, 219 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: cover a guy running around for six to seven seconds. 220 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: So just giving a a chance to be able to 221 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: move the ball down to field in a great place. 222 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this about Aaron Rodgers. I saw that 223 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: up close in twenty sixteen, and your fans saw you 224 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: guys saw it in twenty twelve when he was here, 225 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: and I mean he was he was fantastic. In twenty sixteen, 226 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: he was not healthy, he could hardly even move, but man, 227 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: he found a way that day to make a couple 228 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: of key scrambles, make a couple of key throws. He 229 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: was unbelievable. He was unbelievable. He's in the top ten 230 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: of the NFL players. And I know he didn't have 231 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: the greatest season, but he is, without a doubt, one 232 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: of the top ten players in the league. I don't 233 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: know by the statistical virtue like what his team did 234 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: last year, I wouldn't say he was of that ilk, 235 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: but he's one of those players if you're starting a team, 236 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: and I know Aaron's up there in years a little bit. 237 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: Not he's not aged. He's not Philip Rivers or or 238 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: Eli Manning or even Tom Brady, but he's getting up 239 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: there in age a little bit. But he still does 240 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: all those things. There's there's no question. And DaShan said, 241 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, man, I'm I look up to the guy. 242 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: I communicate with him. I'm still a huge fan of 243 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: his and Rogers one of the best ever guy that 244 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: I definitely been looking up to and decided to be 245 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: able to, you know, get up to the Green Bay 246 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: and watch him work and watch and see how he 247 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: practice and see howe you know, go about his business 248 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: each and every day. So I'm a huge fan. Yeah, 249 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. Obviously, I grew up in Wisconsin. 250 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: You guys know that I saw a big Packers fan 251 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: when it Obviously the Texans take precedent over everybody, but 252 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: my next team would be the Packerson. So I watched 253 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers from AFAR and some of the things that 254 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: he does, I mean, my goodness. So we'll see how 255 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: that goes with Matt Lafleur this year. But very very interesting. 256 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: One other guy that I was a big fan of 257 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: heading into the twenty seventeen draft. That was Patrick Mahomes, 258 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: League MVP in twenty eighteen and a member of the 259 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen class along with Mitchell Trubisky, and all three 260 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: of them one to the Pro Bowl. Shaw was asked 261 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: if he keeps an eye on that twenty seventeen class 262 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: and whether he stays in contact through all the guys, 263 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: Trubisky and Mahomes. You know, I don't really focus on 264 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: what you know, Mahomes did last year. Every want to 265 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: see it. Um, he had a heck of a season. 266 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: You know, he did his thing. And you know we 267 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: talked at the Pro Bowl, and yeah, we support each other. 268 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: We motivate each other. We talked to each other on 269 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: social media. We talked about different vacation spots. Uh. You know, 270 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: he hit me up about Puerto Rico. I hit him 271 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: up about where he went, you know, to the Bahamas 272 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: or something like that. So you know, we still communicate. Um, 273 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, about football, not about football. So we all boys, 274 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: and we will support each other. And for sure, you know, 275 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: our class utized seventeen, you know, just two years in, 276 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: all three of us in the Pro Bowl. So we 277 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: must be doing something right. Yeah, they're doing something right. 278 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: They're winning games. Both team. All three teams won double 279 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: digy games, all three. I went to the Pro Bowl. 280 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky went number two, Patrick Mahomes one, number ten 281 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: to Shawn Watson, who the Texas traded up for at 282 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: number twelve. All right, last one, Carl Smith, new quarterbacks 283 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: coach is he's been around for a while. This is 284 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: a pretty funny cut from the Shoan talking about his 285 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: new quarterbacks coach. Carl Smith. I mean, he's a he's 286 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: a guy with a lot of sparents. He's been coaching 287 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: three or four decades before I was born, pretty much, 288 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: so he had some extra spars, so many, so much 289 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: knowledge and being able to have him, you know, focus 290 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: on my my fundamentals and my technique and how to 291 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: play the game of football as a professional quarterback. It's 292 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: a it's a great it's a great lesson for you know, 293 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks in there, even you know Tim Kelly. 294 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: When he's in there, you know, we're all trying to 295 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: learn something new. He always have you know, little nuggets 296 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: that he'd throw in and and um, you know, I'm 297 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: glad to have him with my team. And talk to 298 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson about him, and he loved him, and he 299 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: said it would be a great fit for for myself 300 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: and in the Houston testas. So it's awesome. It has 301 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: been a tremendous fit. Carl Stunt Tracy started with us 302 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen. He came along with Brad Seely. They 303 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: worked together on special teams and do a hell of 304 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: a job. And Carl Smith became available and came here 305 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: to Houston, and he's He's one of my favorites. We 306 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: had more fun talking and interviewing with him during this 307 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: offseason and getting to know him a little bit. He's 308 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: fantastic and I think he's got the perfect demeanor to 309 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: be alongside Deshaun Watson. And look, Shaun's got he's got 310 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: a lot of voices around him, but he's got a 311 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: lot of people. He's got a lot of people can 312 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: lean on, and Carl is one of those guys. I'm 313 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: really excited about that marriage of Carl Smith along with 314 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: Tim Kelly, Bill O'Brien with DeShawn Watson. Boy forced fun 315 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: to watch, man. I'm just you guys already know that. 316 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: But just the Deshaun Watson, you will see Tamarrow practice 317 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: very very exciting and I'm thrilled that you guys get 318 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: a chance to see him. And I'm thrilled that he 319 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: is the quarterback for your team, our team. How about that? 320 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: All right? That was texanss audio Jude Bucks. I just 321 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: broke your radio. Sorry, I don't sing very well. I 322 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: gotta get somebody to do that a little bit better 323 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: so I have a promo next time. But I kind 324 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: of just came up with that a little while before 325 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: the show, calling a Texans Audio Jubox because there's a 326 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: lot of audio from the guys that went to the podium. 327 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: I could call it Texans Podium ju Box. That might 328 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: work too, but either way, Texas Audio Juwbox for you, 329 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: presented by this space available. All Right, we get back. 330 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: How about a Dirty Dozen with Darren Fells. That's a 331 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: lot of alliteration right there with Drew Dorty oh Man. 332 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: Dirty Dozen with Darren with Drew Dorty. How about that 333 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: oh Man? Alliterations off the charts? And Buddy how a 334 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: native of Miami, talks with former Miami Hurricanes played by 335 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: play man Mark Vandermure, also the Voice of the Texans, 336 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: will have both of those for you next right here 337 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: on Texans Access. Welcome back to this Wednesday nition of 338 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: Texas All Access from the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. I 339 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: am John John Harris, your host, football analyst and sideline 340 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: reporter for your Houston Texans, and it's time to dive 341 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: deep into Dirty Dozen with Darren Fells, brought to you 342 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: by Drew Dorty. The alliteration there is just freaking awesome. 343 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: The Dozen Darren Drew Doherty I mean, the Drew doesn't 344 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: always fit, but Doherty, maybe it's dirty dozen Darren Doherty. 345 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: There's your literation right there, all right. Darren Fells is 346 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: a veteran tight end, the guy that's been around for 347 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: a while, and he was a professional basketball player. He's 348 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: one of the more interesting guys in this locker room 349 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: because of his background, but his leadership is hugely valuable. 350 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: But he has been omnipresent out on the field at 351 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: the y tight end spot. Jordan Thomas has been out 352 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: for a little bit, so eighty seven's had to step 353 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: in and do some things for this offense. He had 354 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: a rough day a few days ago, but he's made 355 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: up for it. He made a couple of key catches today. 356 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: Here's the dirty dozen with Drew Doherty. It is Darren 357 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: Fells tight end. Darren Fells with us, Darren. Time to 358 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: play a dirty dozen. So let's get going. What is 359 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: your best football trait? My best football trade would have 360 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: to be my sixth seventh frame. I never got my 361 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: arms length measured, but I'm pretty sure my wingspans out there, 362 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: so I think my heightened wingspan will be my best 363 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: best trade. So, if you're six foot seven, inches tall. 364 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: That means your wingspans probably like in the seven foot range, right, yeah, 365 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: seven six inches you have let's say that. Okay, So 366 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: basically like yao ming, you're you are yaoming when you 367 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: stretch your arms. Okay. Must pack item for training camp 368 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: is my leg regeneration machines because training camps a long, 369 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: long haul and you need to be ready for the 370 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: next day. So that's better than an xbox, which is 371 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: what one of your teammates said. Oh man, that's that's 372 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: the wrong, wrong thing to pack with training camp. Speaking 373 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: of your teammates, which one of them talks the most trash? Oh? 374 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: JT hands down, hands down, enough said, he talks trash 375 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: to me sometimes too, so I know what you're saying. 376 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: All right. Typical breakfast is well, that will be two 377 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: eggs with much of all the fixings veggie wise, chicken, sausage, 378 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: some hash browns, and fruit every single day, every single day. 379 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: Who has the best hair on the Texans? Best hair man, 380 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go with my boy, Orton Atkins. 381 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: Jordan Nick's staying with a fellow tight ends. Okay, his dreads, 382 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: he keeps them clean and nice, nice and silky. Smooth. 383 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: How about the best dresser? Who's that? Honestly, I haven't 384 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: seen enough guys dressed in anything but street clothes. I 385 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: couldn't tell you that yet. You gotta wait for the 386 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: first game. It's what you're saying. Yeah, for sure? Okay, 387 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: who's the tightiest Texan? I would love to say myself, 388 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: but my locker isn't as great as it usually is. 389 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: A lot of guys are dirty, so I couldn't give 390 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: you that. I was gonna say who's the messiest? Texting? 391 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: Oh j T again, he has a lot of stuff 392 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: in his in his locker and it's all over the 393 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: place sometimes. Fair enough. Teammate that amps you up the most? 394 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: Is it amps me up the most all my tight ends. 395 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: But we all hang out together. We get each other going, 396 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: so I mean Darrell Jordan, both Jordans, I should say, 397 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: and golly, we all get We have each other's back, 398 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: and we hype each other's up when we're down on 399 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: the other end. Which teammate calms you down the most? Oh, 400 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: I get in my own head, so I would say myself. 401 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: I'm an older guy on the team, so I know 402 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: how to calm myself down. I don't need much people 403 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: to calm me down. You're not the first player that 404 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: said myself when you when I get that question to him, 405 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: that's it's pretty good. Yeah, that's an awesome answer, because 406 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: when boys a flying, you need to be able to 407 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: calm yourself down. So favorite TV show right now or 408 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: show on Netflix or Hulu. Honestly, it's funny because I've 409 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: watched it before. But then I went to visit my 410 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: brother up north northern California, and we got me and 411 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: my wife both got back into Naked Nifree, so we 412 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: watched that a lot. Favorite TV show when you were 413 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: growing up was Rugrats. Rugrats, Oh, call in my age 414 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: right there. You're not the only one that said that, though. 415 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: Johnson Batimosi also a Rugrats fan. Bat He's a he's 416 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: twenty eight, so he's a little older guy in the 417 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: NFL too. So toughest part of camp is the long days. 418 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm up here at five o'clock in the 419 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: morning and don't leave till about eight eight thirty. Oh, 420 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: it's just that long holiday. I love the pads, I 421 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: love coming out in there and hid and that's the 422 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: easy part. It's just the long meetings, the long you 423 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: know you have six seven hours left in the day, 424 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: and you're just like, I can do it. You played 425 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: college hoops, you played pro hoops internationally. Which of your 426 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: teammates would present the biggest challenge to you on the court. 427 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they'd beat you, but who would be 428 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: the biggest challenge for you? As far as basketball guys, 429 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: I would say, if I had to go one on 430 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: one with Kiki, he'd be tough because those smaller, quicker guys. 431 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not I'm not saying I'm slow, but 432 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: him driving to the basket, it will be tough. And 433 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if he has a shot. So if 434 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: he can shoot, that means I have to get help 435 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: into him a little bit more and than he's going 436 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: right right around me. Every time. Makes you feel for 437 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: a posing defensive backs, doesn't it? Oh? Yeah, it definitely does. 438 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: Darren Fells, we really appreciate the time. Best of luck 439 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: throughout training camp, the preseason and beyond. This has been 440 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: a dirty dozen. Appreciate it. We've talked a lot about 441 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: Darren Fells this offseason from the standpoint of Pike End 442 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: in that group and with two guys that you drafted 443 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: last year that were productive as rookies, Jordan Jordan Thomas. 444 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: You drafted a third rounder this year, Collie ware who 445 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: got on the field today? Where did and where does 446 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: Darren Fells fit on this team? And the more that 447 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: I watch practice, the more I'm convinced, as I said 448 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: all offseason, that they will carry four tight ends. I 449 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: just it's gonna be really difficult with all that Darren 450 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: Fells brings to the table to see Fells not on 451 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: this roster. Now, could I see a scenario where they 452 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: kept four and a fifty three but only three of 453 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: them are active on the forty six man Gandia roster. 454 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: I could see that happening. But there's so much value 455 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: in Darren Fells. Yes, he's not a spring chicken anymore, 456 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: but he can pass, protect as well as anybody you're 457 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: gonna find, catches the ball pretty well, good athlete, great 458 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: great leader, tremendous leader, and on a team that has 459 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: some pretty good leaders, but still has a I mean 460 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: thinking about the tight end room. Two second year guys 461 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: in a rookie so there's some veteran leadership needed and 462 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: I think Darren Fells could provide that now in the 463 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: back room. There is a There are a bunch of 464 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: young guys in that room, but a guy going into 465 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: his second year for this group is a guy that 466 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: Texas claimed last year off of waivers after the fifty 467 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: three man cutdown. Buddy how was available after a training 468 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: camp spent with the Miami Dolphins. Obviously learned the offense 469 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: and getting some time running back wasn't gonna happen. But 470 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: getting on special teams that was a big factor. But 471 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: he was one of the better special teams players the Texans. 472 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: Maybe I've ever seen him. He was tremendous last year. 473 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: He knew what his role was, he knew what he 474 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: had to do to excel with that role. Miami Homeboy 475 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: caught up with former Miami Hurricanes play by play man 476 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer. We caught up in the offseason, and I 477 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: asked you about the difference between South Florida weather and 478 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: Houston weather for training camp. Now that you're here, because 479 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: you got here late last year, now that you're here 480 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: for this part of it, what do you think It's 481 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: just pretty much dry heat. I feel like down South 482 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: I was sweating a lot quicker, a lot faster, a 483 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: little bit more drinks, but here you can actually like 484 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: feel how the heat is like pretty dry, and I 485 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: don't know it's hot still, like it's really they're both hot. 486 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: But I just noticed like downside, I'll probably be a 487 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: little bit more sweaty wet or you gotta like, you know, 488 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: bring double please two gloves just the case, because you're 489 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: soaking wet by the time you finish warming up. But 490 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: up here, you know, you got a little chance before 491 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: you start sweating. But they're both extremely hot, and I 492 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: just feel like, I don't know this this this heat 493 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: to make you itch, to be honest, hot it is 494 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: and how dry? So yeah, it's it's they both hot, right, Yeah, 495 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: Well what do you think of the schedule of outside inside, 496 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: the rotation of sorts? Um, I like being outside. I 497 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie, but it's nice to, you know, keep 498 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: it balanced, have a day with you inside and you 499 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: ain't gotta worry about too much heat. But I like 500 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: to feel another sun. I've been working out in the 501 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: heat all my life, so I'm pretty much accommodated to it, 502 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: so I kind of look forward to like being outside 503 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: and getting that good sweat and grinding and you know, 504 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: feeling the sun. Buddy, you're really good at special team, 505 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: So how you stay good at special teams during training 506 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: camp when you're not able to go full out just 507 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: effort and trying to you know, ask stuff to your 508 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: repertoire and just being a student of the game. So 509 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: just learning and trying to be you know, instead of 510 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: standing in your own circle, you trying to you know, 511 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: get out of your circle and do stuff that you 512 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't expect yourself to do. So I kind of mix 513 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: up my games, so it makes it harder for defenders 514 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: to kind of like, you know, go against me. So 515 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: when you got a lot of tools in your back, 516 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: it's easy for you to beat the opponent across from you. 517 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 1: I guess it's the obvious question, but how important are 518 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: these upcoming preseason games for you? Because in special teams 519 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: that's where you can shine and really show your stuff. 520 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: Very important because you know, you want to make the team. 521 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: You want to show them that you you know, got 522 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: the same ability that you had last year and more 523 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: and show them that you improve so you can make 524 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: even more players and bigger players. So it's very important 525 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: to you know, get the opportunity to go down there 526 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: and run for speed and gets another opponent and not 527 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: have to hold up. Man, give my all. How's it 528 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: going for you at running back? And how do you 529 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: get to prove yourself in that department? Um, you know 530 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: it's fine, you know, just working and continue to learn 531 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 1: and keep everything. You know, it's learning every yest all. 532 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: Then keeping a memory bank and just continue to you know, 533 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: go hard each and every practice and take advantage of 534 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: each and every red bike I receive. Buddy, thanks a 535 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: lot for joining us, good luck, no problem, thank you. 536 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: I like how Buddy said that eventually they're both hot. Yes, 537 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: they're both They're both hot. And I listen, I went 538 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: from my run this morning at about about five thirty 539 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: this morning, so it's still it's dark, not that hot, 540 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you, and I got done. I was drenched. 541 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: The humidity was just Oh, I was drenched as if 542 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: I had jumped in a pool and jumped out. I mean, 543 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: I was just drenched. So the humidity is for real 544 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: in Houston or Miami. What's also for real is this 545 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: defensive line crew. The defensive lineman on this team, JJ Watt, 546 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: Debond Clowney, Carlos Watkins, Joel Heat, DJ Reader, Angelo Blackson. 547 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: It's a deep, deep unit, got some young guys on 548 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: it that are competing to try and get on the 549 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster, trying to get on the tin 550 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: man practice squad. I broke it down this morning. I'll 551 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: Texas Training Camp Live. Some of you may have missed it, 552 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: maybe you've got different work hours, but I got you covered. 553 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: It's coming up next. I'll break that defensive line down 554 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: for you right here on Texas to Alexas, each and 555 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: every day at nine o'clock on Training Camp Live, Mark 556 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: Endemy and I break down a position. Mark throws a 557 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: challenge to me and says two sentences are less on 558 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: each guy, which is not possible. It really isn't. So 559 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: I do my best, but we go rapid fire every 560 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: single player in that position group. I break it down 561 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: for you, and I did that this morning. So if 562 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: you're hearing this going, man, I want to I want 563 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: to hear this one. John does the next nine o'clock 564 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: tomorrow and by the way, I just gotta I gotta text, 565 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have an extra special guest, a very 566 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: extra special guest tomorrow at nine twenty. After I do 567 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: a breakdown and I'm trying to think what we're doing tomorrow. 568 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: I can't remember what we're doing tomorrow. It might be 569 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: we done. Let's see what have we done thus far. 570 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: I think it might be running backs. I think it 571 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 1: might be or linebackers. Linebackers. We're gonna do linebackers tomorrow 572 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: because we did the defensive line today, and this is 573 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: what it sounded like. All right, let's go here and 574 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna evaluate and break down the defensive line today 575 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: at Texans training camp, Johnny somebody named JJ Watt begins 576 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: his ninth year I of Wisconsin, the boy from Colwaukee 577 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: who went to Central Michigan, then the University of Wisconsin, 578 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: then was drafted here in twenty eleven. I can't believe 579 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: that was eight years ago. There was no OTA session 580 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: that year. So the first we saw of Watt was 581 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: in training camp eight years ago, right here on this field, 582 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: knocking down passes. He didn't explode until the playoffs that year. 583 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: But here he is after a sixteen sacks season. What 584 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: are we expecting out of JJ in year or nine 585 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: of his career. I'll put it this way. He's watching 586 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: the top one hundred and JJ got in number twelve, 587 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: and they asked they had Taylor Luan and they ask 588 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: all these players. They just get him in for a 589 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: session and they say, okay, talk about this guy, talk 590 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: about that guy. Luan went off forever about JD J clowning. Yep. 591 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: They asked tayl Luan about what and he's like nope, 592 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: They're like, what do you mean, like, got nothing? Like 593 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: next question. Luan wouldn't even talk about him. They've had 594 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: some battles they don't and and by battles, I mean 595 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: JJ has decimated him. Yeah, Larry MN Tuncil they set 596 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: him down and like Tuncil was like, he's JJ watt Man, Like, 597 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: what's there to say? That's exactly right. He's great, He's 598 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: maybe he's the greatest this town has ever seen. He's 599 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: arguably the greatest defensive player of all time. We have 600 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: the opportunity to see him. We're lucky he's in the conversation. 601 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: Put that conversation, all right, So you brought up j D. 602 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: So he's listed as defensive end, outside linebacker. He's a 603 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: front seven guy. He's a game wrecker. So let's just 604 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: put him on the day. We'll put him in the 605 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,479 Speaker 1: linebacker group as well. But quick comment on JD who 606 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: was not at camp yet, can do anything on a 607 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: defensive line, can play anywhere on a defensive line. Teams 608 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: know it. At the end of the year last year 609 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: they started to take note of where he was on 610 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: every play and a just blocking schemes and protection schemes 611 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: where he was no matter where he lined up. He 612 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: is that valuable on the defensive front. And hopefully when 613 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: he gets back, he's ready to have a great year 614 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: and we'll have a great year for us in twenty nineteen. 615 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: I can't I can't wait to see him. I love 616 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: just see him in the hallway. He's infectious, smile, he's 617 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: great with everybody. Players love him. So hopefully he'll go 618 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: back here soon and just wreck shop like he always does, smile, 619 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: wider than the Mississippi River. DJ Reader well defensive end, 620 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: nos tackle, But look, we saw him start at d 621 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: N a lot last year with Brandon Dunman in the middle. 622 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: We'll get to him in a moment, But what about 623 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: DJ and year four? He's man? What is there to say? Look, 624 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: he had one I thought he had one tough ball 625 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: game last year, and it was the one game against 626 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: the Aliance that the run defense was not excellent. But 627 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. DJ Reader. If you 628 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: try to block him one on one in the run game, 629 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: you forget it. He swallows that up. He runs down screens. 630 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: He is everything you want in an interior defensive player. 631 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: I hope DJ Reader is here for a very, very 632 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: long time. He is instrumental for this run defense. When 633 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: he is on the field's and he's turned up. But 634 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: they wonted pads and probably tell his story now. There 635 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: was one of the rookie lineman the day before who 636 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: had kind of taken outside linebacker and kind of kind 637 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: of threw him out the club a little bit. You know, 638 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: they weren't in pads. DJ got in the first run 639 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: drill and just blew it up, just blew it up. 640 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: He's like, you're not throwing me out the club, and 641 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: he just he was turned up the whole day. He 642 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: was at volume. Tay was so awesome to see. I 643 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: love him in this run defense. He's a great fit 644 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: in this defense. He's I think he's taken on leadership 645 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: role and he hopefully he's realizing how good he is, 646 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: because if you think about this four years ago, at 647 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: this point, four years ago, twenty fifteen, he was not 648 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: in Clemson camp. He was not in camp at Clemson 649 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: because his dad had passed away and he was trying 650 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: to figure out life basically and what he should do. 651 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: He didn't know what he wasn't sure what to do. 652 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: He finally came back, but halfway through the year he 653 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: kind of got he got back on the field and 654 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 1: then he kind of got it going. And then at 655 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: the end of the year and the Senior Bowl, he 656 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: was dominant. And I'm glad he's here. Drafted in a 657 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: fifth round and look at him. He's a starter for 658 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: your team, also starting ten games last year. Here's the 659 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: factoid that I teased Brandon done DJ Duddy the locker room. DJ. 660 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: Brandon was originally signed by the Bears as an undrafted 661 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: free agent. Think about this for a moment. He was 662 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: released three times by the Bears, three times by the 663 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: Texans six times. He's been released and resigned to the 664 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: practice squad for the Bears and the Texans six and 665 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: then in twenty seventeen, the Texans sign him as one 666 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: of those reserve future guys, like right when the off 667 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: season begins, and a lot of those guy all right, whatever, 668 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: they're signing some players right after the season, Brandon Dunn 669 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: became a starter for this football team. What about DJ Dunny, Well, 670 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: he's become invaluable. I mean, you put Done next to 671 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: Reader trying to run football against them. The best thing 672 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: about it is the fact that you could play Done 673 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: next to Reader with clowning watering the outside with Zach 674 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: and Bmack just a six man, you're nickel there. You 675 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: stop the run. Let you stop the run. Dunney will 676 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: will swallo up a couple of blockers if he needs to. 677 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: He's got great technique against double teams. He is an 678 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: excellent underrated football player. Now, unfortunately, what those two are 679 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: not are great pass rushers. They're really good athletes, but 680 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: they're not tremendous pass rushers. Maybe that's something that evolves 681 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: in their game this year. It would be kind of 682 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: nice if it did, but they're not great interior pass 683 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: rushers against to run brand Dune DJ Reader together as 684 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: good as it gets. Okay, boy, we got we gotta 685 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: move on here. They're over two sentence and geez, come 686 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: on by another guy who proves that good players can 687 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: come from anywhere. Angelo Blackson oh Man. We saw two 688 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: years ago flash he was drafted originally by the Titans 689 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: in the fourth round, ends up here and just signed 690 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: a deal in the off season. What about Blackson, He's 691 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: been even better this year. I thought he was really 692 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: good last year. Got his hands on some tip passy 693 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: tip pass at tyre Matthew intercepted at New England. Last year. 694 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: He does the dirty work for you, but he's a 695 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: little bit slimmer. This year, he's quicker, he's agile. I 696 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen anybody effectively block him yet. I think Angel 697 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: Blackson's very key. Those three, Donny Reader and Blackson. You 698 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: put those three in there in the middle and they're 699 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: gonna stop the run for sure. Already his fourth year. 700 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: Joel Heath out of Michigan State six six three zero two. 701 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: This is where it starts to get interesting, because you've 702 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: got Joel Heath and you've got Carlos Watkins, and you've 703 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: got a couple of guys battling to try and get 704 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: on this team. It's get in this defense line, get 705 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: in the rotation, and look, there are times when Joel 706 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: is I think, as good as anybody to have up there. 707 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: It's a consistency for him. He's got to a be 708 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: healthy and B he's got to be consistent, and then 709 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: when he is, he's got an opportunity to get in 710 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: the rotation. We've seen him plays, no doubt about it. 711 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: All Right, let's get right to the rookie here. Charles 712 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: amna Who from the University of Texas six five, two 713 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 1: eighty a Houstonian. I would I'd love to go further 714 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: about a mana who make sure, Yeah, he's been very good. 715 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: Here's the thing with Charles, kind of like it is 716 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: for some of these guys. His up and down swings 717 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: are really big right now. Like there are players you 718 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: watch and go, Okay, that's a play I don't think 719 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: anybody else in the field can make, and then the 720 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: next play you're like a rookie, like that's a Rena 721 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: League ball stuff right there. He's got to find at 722 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: consistent level because he can be dynamic, very dynamic. Charles 723 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: a man who. Okay, Carlos Watkins, I didn't mean to 724 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: leave him out. Third year out of Clemson, a draft 725 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: choice for this team. Three hundred pounds six three big 726 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: year for him. He's got to prove that he can 727 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: go on the field on third downs and rush one 728 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: on one against pretty heavy guards. And go get the quarterback. 729 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: That's what he did Clemson. He was a really good 730 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: interior pass rusher. That was the best thing he did. 731 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: He's got to capitalize on that this year. All right. 732 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: What about out to Albert Huggins also from Clemson, who 733 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: they got as an undrafted free age in three oh 734 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: five six three. We would have heard more about Albert 735 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: Huggins that he played anywhere else but Clemson. The Clemson 736 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: was loaded with defensive lineman. He had a really good 737 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: college football playoff couple of games at the end with 738 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence was suspended. He'll get into competition, but man, 739 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be really tough to break through that group 740 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: of reader and done. But he'll get a lot of 741 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: looks in the preseason. But pretty athletic for a guy 742 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: his size. But he's not a big guy. He's not 743 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: a huge guy. He's not three thirty, so he's got 744 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: to rely a little bit more on his quickness. But 745 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: I like Albert Huggins. It's gonna be hard to make 746 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: the team. But if you get to keep a guy 747 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: around and practice quid, never know what happens. Look at 748 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: Brandon Dune, like you said, one of those players that 749 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: causes number double takes. Number ninety five who was which 750 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: was worn by Cuffington Johnny Dwight out of Alabama, undrafted 751 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: rookie six three three oh one. They didn't play a 752 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: ton at Alabama. Was more a part of the rotation 753 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: at Alabama. But I've seen him out of here and 754 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: make a few plays. I'm like, hey, ninety five, all right, 755 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm used to see him coming, but I see ninety 756 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: five and he's a little bit more stout than than 757 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: uh than Cove was. So I'm interested to see what 758 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: he does in the preseason. But he's made a couple 759 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: of plays that kind of catch my attention out here. 760 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 1: Ira Savage Lewis is from Houston, went to Bail sixty 761 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: three rookie. Can you be a good d lineman with 762 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: the name Ira? Yes, he is. He is. He's playing 763 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: flashing the Sickham sign. He's He's pretty unique watching him. 764 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a two hundred and ninety pound guy. 765 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: You can move him up and down a line of scrimmage. 766 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 1: I have seen him make some plays during this training camp, 767 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: both run and pass rush. I've seen him do some 768 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: things the pass rush. He's a very intriguing player with 769 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: the opportunity and the ability in size to play anywhere 770 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: from tight end to tight end. And that's gonna help. 771 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: That's gonna help a guy like that when it comes 772 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: down to does he make the fifty three or probably 773 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: best case for him is does he make practice squad. 774 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,479 Speaker 1: But boy, he's really flashed to me. I'm really excited 775 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: to see him against Green Bay and practices and then 776 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: the game. I don't have his pronunciation yet. Haavey Edwards, 777 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: big dude, Colorado. He's three twenty five. He's also a 778 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: Houston homeboy. The d's got some Houston homeboys in there, 779 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: and how he's one of them. He's a large human being. 780 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: So for him, he's gonna be playing over the nose. 781 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: He's gonna be playing from guard to guard, and he's 782 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: just gotta he's just got to be nasty inside. Just 783 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: take on it. He's got he's gotta follow DJ readers 784 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: every move during his training camp and during the preseason. 785 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: All right, that's it for your D line. They get 786 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: all of them. You got all of them, I believe. 787 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: So giving me grief about two sentences, Well, you know, 788 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: and this is a pretty big group right here. And 789 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: I think it's a good group too. I think it's 790 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: the deepest group that this team has. They've got a 791 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: rookie on the NFI list, Walter Palmore out of Missouri 792 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: six four three twenty a nose tackle. We see him 793 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: right out here. Him. He's a bit, he's a big day. 794 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: He wants to get healthy in a hurry. Otherwise it's uh, 795 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, he might be the kind of guy they 796 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 1: want to hang onto if he can't practice this camp. 797 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: But we'll see how they handle that. Look, I think 798 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: it's a deep group. We've talked about this possibly being 799 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: the deepest group on the team. Yeah, I mean now, 800 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: because you have to one of the best players in 801 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: his three and then he got a reader and done 802 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: and everybody else we talked about. So we'll see how 803 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 1: it plays out. They have a lot of options there. 804 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna be some unhappy people, or maybe they'll be 805 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: happy because if guys get cut and you can't get 806 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: them on the practice squad, some of these rookies maybe 807 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: they end up with other teams. So some of these 808 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: guys will be focusing on in the second half of 809 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: these preseason games coming up. Yeah, there's no question and 810 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: That's the one thing that these guys have got to 811 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: keep in mind that, Yes, what they put on film 812 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: is obviously for Anthony Weaver and for Romeo Cornell to 813 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: sit there and study and and critique and give them 814 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: pointers and all that, but they're also put whatever they 815 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: put on films for thirty one other teams to pay attention. Ye, 816 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: And and I know it's tough to say, like, hey, no, 817 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: they're Texans, especially the guys from Houston. But this is 818 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: a deep group. Is a deep, deep group. And you 819 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: know when you go sub package of that group, how 820 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: many of them are gonna end up being on the field. Yeah, 821 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: it's gonna be why, it's gonna be Clowney. And then 822 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: keep six, Right, you're gonna keep six, maybe five, just squeeze. 823 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: I think you keep six. I think you keep six. 824 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: But you know, it depends on how you classic. John 825 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: McClain says five, which because it depends on how you classifive, 826 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: I put Clowney in there, so I count that as 827 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: as six, all right? Well if yeah, because how does 828 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: Clowney figure in the outside linebacker equation? You keep four 829 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: or five because they're gonna keep They're gonna keep nine. Linebackers. 830 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: If you include Clowney in that group, it's nine. Right, 831 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: So I think the D line is five plus the one. 832 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: So now you have eight and six. Right. Again, I 833 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: go back to the fact that because you have I 834 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: don't know, it's a position list fourteen front seven guys. 835 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: Well there that there's there's That's what you gotta do. 836 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: That's how you have to think about this, right, because 837 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: when you start thinking about, well, how many outside linebackers 838 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: do I have, Well, how many outside linebackers do I need? 839 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: Because how often am I gonna be in my base unit. 840 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in my base unit against Tennessee. But 841 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: if I have Clowney. If I have Clowney, then I've 842 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: got at least three guys I know I could play 843 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: outside in Scarlett, Merciless and Clowney. I've got at least 844 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: those three as elsie linebackers. So how but you play 845 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: nickel how much? And when you play nickel, you got 846 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: wid outside, Clowne outside, and you played a combination on 847 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: the inside. Yea, So how much do you really need? 848 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 1: You know, five outside linebackers. You'll take a fifth outside 849 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: linebacker if you know that guy's gonna end up flying 850 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: down on special teams, and I got one that I'm 851 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: really excited about. Really, well, why do we do that tomorrow? 852 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: Why don't we do linebackers tomorrow, outside, inside, all around 853 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: the town. So there it is, linebackers tomorrow, inside and outside. 854 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: Well obviously discussed Debbie on Clowne because he will be 855 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: in that linebacker cruise. Sometimes he's at inside, sometimes he's outside, 856 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: sometimes he's at defensive line. He kind of covers it all. 857 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: So every time we talk about a different group line, 858 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: defensive line or linebackers, we're gonna talk about JD because 859 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: he's in that group. So we'll do linebackers tomorrow at 860 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: nine o'clock and then a fantastic guest at nine twenty. 861 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: I almost don't even want to say it because I 862 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: don't want to I don't want to jinx it, and 863 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've been given the ok to 864 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: do this. But let's just say he's a guy who 865 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: loves basketball but loves the Texans. Does that give anything away? 866 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: Maybe not? Just you're gonna want to tune in tomorrow 867 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: eight o'clock so you can hear the whole show. McLean 868 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 1: at eight thirty, We've got me breaking down at position 869 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: at nine, got Lander lockers questions at nine thirty each 870 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: and every week. It's awesome. You gotta hear training camp 871 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: a lot, but if you miss it, you can catch 872 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: our breakdown at Well, you just heard the breakdown right 873 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: there of a very talented and deep defensive line. A 874 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: lot of people to thank for this one. Bill O'Brien, 875 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: Shaw Watson, J. J. Watt, Darren Fells, Buddy how Drew Doherty, 876 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermere, all of you for listening. We will see 877 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: you tomorrow, literally tomorrow at the Houston Methodist Training Center, 878 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,479 Speaker 1: looking forward to another day in pads. In your first 879 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,760 Speaker 1: look at this twenty nineteen team, we'll see that everybody 880 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: has always go Texans