WEBVTT - OutFoxxed 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.359 Wind down with Janet Kramer and i'heart Radio podcast. 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:12.720 So lots of in going on. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:19.520 And uh, I don't I'm just gonna let you take 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:19.920 the floor. 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:21.279 Would you like to talk about anything or no? 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.640 I mean you can ask me questions if you want. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:25.200 To ask you questions. 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.360 Okay, Well, here's just me taking the floor is not 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:28.720 going to be okay. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:32.760 Why am I getting emotional? 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.600 Like why oh man? 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:38.879 No? 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:43.199 I am, Well, do you want to talk about it 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:43.479 or not? 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:44.120 Yes? 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:53.680 Sure, okay, because I don't want you to. I've always 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:59.760 wanted this platform to be about helping other people, and 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:07.240 and I think through shared experiences, through my experiences, through 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:12.120 you know, Sarah Gretzky's experience is about her miscarriages, or 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.720 in letting people have a voice to come on here 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.639 and again just share their experiences, because I think sharing 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.800 helps in heals but also helps other people. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:25.440 Sure, and so. 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.120 You are very. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.399 I think at first this coming on the podcast, you 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:40.400 were not hesitant, but like not as open. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.679 To share absolutely, which is you know. 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:44.959 That's why I was like, girl, you don't have to 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:46.880 do this if you don't like, I'm not like, I know, 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.080 you're my best dam I og, but like, I'm not 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.840 like forcing you. And I understand that, you know, there 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:56.440 is backlash with being open and having your life picked apart, 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:00.960 and I see that firsthand. And but I also know 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.960 from the other side of it, the people that have 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.359 you know, stopped me or stopped you or you know, 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.640 and have related. And now people have been relating to 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:21.160 your story. And you know, you've been open about getting 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:25.080 married young and some of the challenges in your marriage 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:37.560 and and I'm I'm really proud of you, but would 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:38.880 you like to share. 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:47.600 Yes, Oh, you're so much better at this now. So 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:54.280 we are getting a divorce, you know, it's one of 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:58.799 those things we were We have been married for fifteen years, 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.040 which is long time, got married at twenty three and 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:06.600 twenty five. I'm very different than you. You know, I'm 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:13.040 very non affectionate. I will own that. I'm you know, 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.959 it's harder for me to be vulnerable. You know, there's 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.600 a lot of things that as a woman are harder 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:24.520 for me that are normally easier for women. I would say, so, 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:27.919 you know, long story short for us. Yes, we got 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.640 married young, but there have been issues for years, you know, 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:37.200 and the last you know, I'd say, even five years. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.200 It's basically we've just you know, we've become roommates, you know, 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.480 and it's one of those things that we probably would 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:46.320 have stayed roommates forever. I know he would have, but 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.400 through going to therapy, you know, I mean, that was 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.480 a big I decided I wanted to go back to 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.080 therapy and make a decision and figure out what was 0:03:55.120 --> 0:04:01.000 best for not only me but him and the kids. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:02.920 I mean, and I know that's not for me to 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.200 say what's best for him, but what I felt like 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:06.640 in the end would. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:07.360 Be better for everybody. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:13.160 So yeah, so I kinda I mean, we made a decision, 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.320 you know, and you know, we're just kind of walking 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.200 through it. It's very new. Just told the kids not 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.760 too long ago. That was tough. That was real tough. 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:25.840 But as crazy as. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.839 It sounds, we've gotten along really, really, really well. And 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.520 that's all I've prayed for, Like, I mean, I just 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.040 wanted this to go smoothly. I want us to get along. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:36.880 I want us to be friends. I mean, we've got 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.000 three kids that are crazy busy, you know. So we've 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:44.160 gotten along really well. He's been super emotional about it, 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:48.039 I'll be honest, and that's hard, and I've had my 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.159 emotions too. I mean it's not that I haven't. I've 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.359 definitely had my emotions around it, but I think that 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:56.200 I've had more time to really sit with it because 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.080 I've been trying to make a decision for a while now. 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.960 And I told him that. So yeah, so that's you know, 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:06.599 kind of what we're walking now. And you know, in 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.960 the end, I feel like it's something that I did 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.000 for all of us, but it's also really to protect 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.599 my mental health and my happiness. And you know, it's 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.480 sometimes hard to take what seems like a selfish step, 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.800 you know, to take care of yourself, but I think 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:26.040 that that's what needed to be done. So yeah, I 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:27.520 mean that's basically. 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.720 Well, I just when you were sharing that, I was 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:36.960 just like, man, there's gonna be so many women that 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:37.680 can relate to that. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:38.840 I hope. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.320 So it feels very lonely to be that kind of woman, 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:46.240 I'll be honest, it really does, because I mean I 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.279 don't even really have any friends that are that way, 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.039 you know. I mean it's just and so it's kind 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:52.880 of it really is kind of a lonely feeling, you 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.080 feel like, you know, we always joked for so long, 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.400 Nick's the girl in the relationship and I'm the guy 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.960 because I'm just you know, I mean, I am emotional. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:05.120 I definitely cry and am emotional, but it's just harder 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:06.560 for me to be vulnerable. And that's a lot of 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:10.719 from growing up in situations growing up. But also I'm realizing, like, 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.159 you know, I can get there. I just need to 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:16.960 work on it and I need to work on myself 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.880 and I'll get there. And you know, at the end 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.800 of the day, no one's to blame. I think we 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.719 both had issues in our marriage and things, but you know, 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.640 I think in the end, I will I can work 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.640 through that and kind of get But yeah, I hope 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.159 that helps people that feel that way, women especially, I 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.599 know men feel that way a lot. But you know, 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:37.479 and I've had a few people reach out to me, 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:39.359 you know, that say that it's like, oh, you know, 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.400 I feel that way too, and it's I feel like 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.560 nobody else does. So I do hope that that kind 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.719 of helps people, and you know, I'm happy to, you know, 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:48.960 help that in any way. 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:50.240 I hope that that does. 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:51.440 Help some people that feel that way. 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:56.279 Yeah, I know it will, and you'll, I know, listeners 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.520 that are relating to this right now will out pour 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.480 to you and then also and be asked for your 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.760 advice too, and you can you can become that vessel 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:08.240 of helping. It's not about it's not guiding, You're just 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:12.000 speaking from your experience. And that's kind of you know 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.520 where I've always tried to go like this is just 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.320 my experience and and and that's you're doing the same thing, 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:20.960 and like you're helping people not feel alone. And I 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:24.080 also think one of the thing too, that like something 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.440 you always said to me that it's like you in 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.960 a way I don't if i'm miss speaking, like please 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:31.880 correct me, but like you almost carried shame, like he 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:33.600 didn't do like he didn't cheat on me. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.160 He didn't. He's on it like he didn't. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.560 And it's like, I don't think people realize that you 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.360 don't like there doesn't have to. 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.640 Be a like a. It can just be what you're 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:44.200 going through it. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.400 I mean, that was the last I don't know how 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.200 long I've been seeing Amy, but that's what I would 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.320 tell her all the time. But he didn't do anything wrong. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.240 You know. It's like so it's really hard and you 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:59.240 know it's again it is a decision I will say 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.280 that we've made together. I mean, obviously I don't want 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.760 I want my kids to feel that, you know, to 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.400 feel that way, but yeah, I mean it was one 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:11.400 of those that's just like you didn't do anything wrong 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.000 and I love you as a friend, but like it's time, 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.360 you know, And that's tough that I battled with that 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.880 for some time and he probably did too, you know. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.400 So yeah, I mean that's been a battle for a 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.440 very very long time. Granted my you know, my parents 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:31.720 were divorced in very similar situation, and you know, she 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.560 they tried to stay together for the for us for 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.120 so long, and that's one thing I didn't want to. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.920 It's one thing I really struggled with. I'm like, is 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.440 this really healthy for them? Like they need to see 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:43.880 and we told them that, like you need to see 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.960 a marriage where your parents are affectionate and your parents Yeah, 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.640 I mean we've been very open with them, very very 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.520 and you know it's like and you know, I think 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.320 they know that deep down that that's what but they 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:00.559 haven't seen it. They really truly haven't seen it. So yeah, 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.199 I mean it was a struggle. But once I made 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:06.760 the decision, and you know, it was. I feel as 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.839 good as you can about it. I guess that's I 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.280 don't want to sound insensitive because I know it's it's 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.600 harder on him. I'll be honest, it is and I 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.720 don't want to be insensitive to that, but I truly 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.560 feel like it's going to be what's best for everybody. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.200 Well, we all love you. 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:29.320 I love you, and I'm I'm just I'm really proud 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.040 of you, just like the work that you've done in 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.520 the last you know, a couple of years, and I 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:38.040 know you made a very not easy decision, and you know, 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.520 Queendom's here for you. Wind Down, wind Down, Queendom is all. 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.880 You know that we're all We're all here to support. 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:49.640 And I think again, this is just another opportunity to 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.679 help people not feel alone. And I think especially with 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:58.800 you know, this being Mental health month, and I think 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:05.160 so many people internalize things by themselves, which is and 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:11.559 then you know they it's it's just not and this 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.640 is a way to be able to okay, like you're 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.160 not alone. You are going through things and other people 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:18.240 are going through the same thing. 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:20.000 You just might not know. 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.240 That right for sure, But I am really proud of 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.719 you and we're gonna can I like continue to check 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:25.240 in on you? 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.480 Yeah, You're so sweet, You're so good. 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.559 I'm like, wait, I'm supposed to be the one checking 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:30.280 on you. 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.000 No, girl, I am, I am, I am. 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.320 I'm a year out from my divorce and I'm you 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:42.320 know I it's now it's all about loving myself because 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.840 you know, for for me, after my divorce, I was 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.240 like a man was always something that defined me, like 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.400 being in a relationship with something that defined me. And 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.960 now it's like, no, it's it's finding me and healing alone, 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:59.199 and like that's been that's been the work that I've 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.200 had to do. And but no, I mean your days 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.000 of checking up on me are are done. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.080 For now. We're switching roles here. 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.199 And I think you know and I always said and 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.600 say this to her, and because I've known, you know, 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.720 obviously this is struggles. And I think you can to 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:17.920 ask a friend what do you like? 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:18.560 What do you need? 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.920 And how can I support you? Because somebody might not 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.679 be ready. Like as much as I wanted y'all, of course, 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.680 I love both of you dearly, and I would have 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.120 loved y'all's relationship to work. At the same time, I 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:36.280 also think y'all deserved, you know, right, other things as well. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.280 So it's like, what can I how can I support 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.800 can because I will support you fighting for this and 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.360 I'll also support you, you know, being a single mom, 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:44.800 and if you can get on my ever other weekends 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:45.360 so we can. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.880 Go working on it. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.520 Yeah, no, I mean you've been super supportive and I 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:52.400 truly appreciate that, and I do. 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:53.959 I don't. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.720 I know, I couldn't have done it if it wasn't 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.199 for my friends and Amy. I know that for a fact. 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.280 So she's a she's a bestseller. 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:05.760 Yes, well, we love you and we'll we'll circle back 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.360 around when we have all of more people that come 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.080 on that can you know, help with that. But sure, 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:15.439 everyone go love on some Catherine right now. And uh, 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:19.520 this episode is actually sponsored by uber Eats and I 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.800 don't know about you, but Catherine, we're gonna you know, 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.960 our our girl Wednesday nights are just going to be 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.120 wild with and uber eats. We can uh you know, 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:32.800 we can order chocolate. We can order uh Kleenex and tissues, 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:33.760 and I think we can. 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.120 Get stuff for our pool parties because pool parties. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:37.920 Right, yeah, we can, we can, we can get it 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.880 all with uber eats. So that's uh, I just encourage 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.120 all the mamas, single mama's, dad as grandparents. Uber Eats 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:49.320 is an incredible app. It's actually just not for just 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:53.000 getting food delivered your house. It's anything and everything. Like 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.400 I just ordered towels and I needed Jolie wanted to 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.480 play down, so I was like, I don't. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:58.800 Have time to get your kids in here, but yes, 0:12:58.880 --> 0:12:59.560 let's just do this. 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:02.439 We're gonna take a break and then we're going to 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:08.040 get on Corinne Fox and talk more about what this 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:22.400 month means to her. Hi. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.319 Yeah, it's so nice to see you. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.360 So nice to see you too. I'm Jana. 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:32.800 This is Catherine, my hair is. Nice to meet you, sweetie. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:38.800 I actually saw I saw you. My one girlfriend did 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.280 beach Sizam Julie. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.240 Oh she did, she did. I didn't realize that she 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:44.200 was on the show. 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:45.160 She was on the show. 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:49.240 So yeah, my friend, my friend Julie Solomon. Yeah, and 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:53.080 you know, married to my ex John and whatever and 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.440 so but yeah, it was like, god, how many years 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.400 was that? It was probably like four years ago because 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.600 she's literally the girl that was like it can play 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.400 one chord and she knows it and I'm like, can 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.600 you play the whole song because I still don't know, like, 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.000 oh oh no, I mean. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:07.320 I'm the DJ on the show. 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.240 I know, and I remember seeing man. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.120 Admittedly, there are songs where I'm like, I don't know 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.559 how you could get it this fast because it's actually 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:15.240 very hard. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.240 It's so hard. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.840 Yeah, but I remember seeing you and just going, God, 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.160 she is beautiful. And then what I didn't know at 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.920 the time was that you know, your dad is Jamie Fox. 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:27.680 So I was just like, oh wow, Like that's so 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.640 cool that you know she's working with her dad, and 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.520 how cool that one must be. So well, my friend's 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:32.960 on the show. I'm kind of just like, you know, 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:34.480 and he's like my daughter, and I was like, this 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:35.160 is so cool. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.960 That's so random. I cannot believe you know someone who's 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.400 on the show. I was so curious, like what happens 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.280 to our contestants because I have fall in love with them. 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.000 They always have like such great stories, and I'm like, 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.320 they do such a good job at like vetting these people, 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.320 and they come in with so much energy and they're 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.920 so excited. So what a small world. 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:54.000 I know it was. 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:55.880 It was crazy, but I mean, and you're so do 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:56.640 you love doing that? 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:59.560 I love doing it. I'm actually right now I'm in 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:03.080 Ireland and shooting the fifth season of the show, which 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.800 is crazy, but it's a blast. And working with my 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:07.800 dad is amazing. I mean, I don't know if you 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.280 have watched multiple episodes, but he just has so much 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.080 energy and he's like a big kid. So I'm like 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.840 parenting him on the show where I'm like, he's doing 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:21.200 dance breaks and he doing dances he shouldn't be doing 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.440 for his age, and I'm always like, hey, let's get 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:27.600 back to the show, dad, So we have a really 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.120 fun relationship that I also think like a lot of 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.080 fathers and daughters can relate to with me, like iye 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.320 rolling in him, you know, trying to do like a 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.720 funny bit and I'm just not having it. So I 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.920 think a lot of people like to watch us and 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:40.640 and can relate. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:41.440 Sure. 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.280 Speaking of Ireland, I was out there last October. I 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.440 did name that tune and they also filmed that in Ireland. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:52.440 So yes's and that's the that's the same creator I 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:53.200 think of our show. 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.480 Okay, yeah, but you need to go Have you gone 0:15:55.480 --> 0:16:00.480 to the Cliffs of Bling Lower. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:04.120 Or have you gone I went to Dublin in college 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:08.520 for uh okay, so I did go there very hungover. 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.080 I think I need to go again. 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.960 But it's gorgeous, it's so pretty. Yeah. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:15.600 No, so I took like a day trip and we 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.400 went there, went to Galway and then I want to 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.239 go there if it's super cute. It's just like cobblestones 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.560 and like you just skipping. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.960 Just skipping me married, Yeah, I just like drink some. 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:32.320 Tea and so you did. I read an interview that 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:33.640 you wanted to change your last name. 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.600 I considered it and I said the interview and then 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:43.800 I feel like it just exploded on the internet. But 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.920 I think I grew up. You know, everyone was always 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.040 looking at me. They were always interested in the things 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:52.320 that I was doing. And when I was going to college, 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.800 I considered for a brief moment, taking on my mom's 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.960 last name, just so I could get a fair shot. 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:03.000 I always like ruggled with making friends and really feeling like, 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.760 you know, are they being genuine? Do they want something 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.359 for me? Do they just want concert tickets? Do they 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.400 just want to go to movie premieres? And not that 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.720 that ever really happened to me, but it's a constant 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.840 like insecurity and fear, and I think going into college, 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.560 I thought, well maybe if I, you know, take my 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:23.840 mom's last name, you know, people won't know who I 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.960 am and they'll you know, not want things from me. 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.760 And I didn't ultimately do that, but it was something 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:34.760 that I did deal with and struggle with. And obviously 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.520 I've been given so many blessings from my dad's career, 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.639 but there were some things that were also not so 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:43.160 great about it as well. 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.600 In a way, do you kind of think, like, like, 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:49.840 what are the things that you wish that you that 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:50.840 weren't great about it? 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:59.160 You know, not much. I mean, I've been so blessed 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.399 to be able to do so many great things. And 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.120 when I was ten years old, I attended the Oscars 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.639 with my dad when he won his first Oscar, and 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.560 so it's like you can't really complain. But I think 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.760 because I was constantly looked at or I felt like 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:18.000 people were always keeping an eye on me, I became 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.479 a bit of a perfectionist and I never wanted to 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:24.520 mess up. I never wanted to you know, embarrass my 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.080 dad anything that he was putting that on me. It 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:30.160 was just me putting it on myself, and I felt 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.960 like I couldn't really be authentic for a while, until 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.600 you know, I got older and really found my voice. 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.200 But for a while, I really struggled with not wanting 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.879 to mess up, and I didn't really give myself the 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.479 grace to be a human. And I think children of 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.320 celebrities kind of go one of two ways. Either you 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:50.240 become you know, the crazy party kid that you read 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.840 about all the time, or you become me, someone who 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.840 didn't curse until I was like sixteen or seventeen because 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.080 I thought stupid was a bad word and I didn't 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.400 want to, you know, do something and say the wrong thing. 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.040 And that was a lot of pressure for a kid. 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:08.240 You know, Yeah, I think, yeah it is. And also, 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:12.960 you know, people love to troll behind a computer and 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:15.560 say things that they don't know about you. So I'm sure, like, 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:17.399 is that something that you have a hard time dealing 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.159 with too? People that and how do you deal with that? 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.240 I think my both my parents did such a great 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:29.000 job at teaching me the difference between what's real and 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.840 what's not real and whose opinion to value. And my 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.920 dad is like very harsh on social media in the 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.119 terms of like not believing trolls and and and not 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.000 even giving your time a day to it. But I 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.520 think I struggled with people saying, you know, assuming I 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.720 guess like I'm spoiled and I don't work hard and 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.720 all of those things. And I always felt like I 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.240 had to prove myself. And I always felt like I 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.560 had to show up, you know, even more prepared than 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.840 somebody else, and even more you know, impressive than some 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.199 body else. And I think that was really tough on me. 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:06.280 But ultimately, you know, it served me. It created this 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.119 work ethic that I have that I'm very proud of 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.320 and that I get praised on all the time. And so, 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.520 you know, it was tough, but it also you know, 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:15.320 build character. 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.960 How is it dating with your you know, your dad? 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.359 Oh, I get asked this all the time, you know, 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.200 in high school. It was tough. We wrote a whole 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.920 TV show about it. We did a show on Netflix 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:32.119 called Dad' Stuff Embarrassing Me, which was mostly about my 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.679 dating experiences with my dad because I think he was 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:39.359