1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer and i'heart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: So lots of in going on. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: And uh, I don't I'm just gonna let you take 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 3: the floor. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: Would you like to talk about anything or no? 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 4: I mean you can ask me questions if you want. 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: To ask you questions. 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, here's just me taking the floor is not 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 4: going to be okay. 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: Why am I getting emotional? 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: Like why oh man? 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: No? 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: I am, Well, do you want to talk about it 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: or not? 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 4: Yes? 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: Sure, okay, because I don't want you to. I've always 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: wanted this platform to be about helping other people, and 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: and I think through shared experiences, through my experiences, through 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: you know, Sarah Gretzky's experience is about her miscarriages, or 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: in letting people have a voice to come on here 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 3: and again just share their experiences, because I think sharing 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: helps in heals but also helps other people. 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Sure, and so. 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: You are very. 25 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 3: I think at first this coming on the podcast, you 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: were not hesitant, but like not as open. 27 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 5: To share absolutely, which is you know. 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: That's why I was like, girl, you don't have to 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: do this if you don't like, I'm not like, I know, 30 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: you're my best dam I og, but like, I'm not 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: like forcing you. And I understand that, you know, there 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: is backlash with being open and having your life picked apart, 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: and I see that firsthand. And but I also know 34 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: from the other side of it, the people that have 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 3: you know, stopped me or stopped you or you know, 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 3: and have related. And now people have been relating to 37 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: your story. And you know, you've been open about getting 38 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: married young and some of the challenges in your marriage 39 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: and and I'm I'm really proud of you, but would 40 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: you like to share. 41 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: Yes, Oh, you're so much better at this now. So 42 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: we are getting a divorce, you know, it's one of 43 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 4: those things we were We have been married for fifteen years, 44 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: which is long time, got married at twenty three and 45 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 4: twenty five. I'm very different than you. You know, I'm 46 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: very non affectionate. I will own that. I'm you know, 47 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 4: it's harder for me to be vulnerable. You know, there's 48 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: a lot of things that as a woman are harder 49 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 4: for me that are normally easier for women. I would say, so, 50 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 4: you know, long story short for us. Yes, we got 51 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 4: married young, but there have been issues for years, you know, 52 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: and the last you know, I'd say, even five years. 53 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: It's basically we've just you know, we've become roommates, you know, 54 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 4: and it's one of those things that we probably would 55 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: have stayed roommates forever. I know he would have, but 56 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: through going to therapy, you know, I mean, that was 57 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 4: a big I decided I wanted to go back to 58 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: therapy and make a decision and figure out what was 59 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: best for not only me but him and the kids. 60 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: I mean, and I know that's not for me to 61 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: say what's best for him, but what I felt like 62 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: in the end would. 63 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 5: Be better for everybody. 64 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, so I kinda I mean, we made a decision, 65 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 4: you know, and you know, we're just kind of walking 66 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 4: through it. It's very new. Just told the kids not 67 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 4: too long ago. That was tough. That was real tough. 68 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 5: But as crazy as. 69 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 4: It sounds, we've gotten along really, really, really well. And 70 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 4: that's all I've prayed for, Like, I mean, I just 71 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: wanted this to go smoothly. I want us to get along. 72 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: I want us to be friends. I mean, we've got 73 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: three kids that are crazy busy, you know. So we've 74 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 4: gotten along really well. He's been super emotional about it, 75 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 4: I'll be honest, and that's hard, and I've had my 76 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 4: emotions too. I mean it's not that I haven't. I've 77 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 4: definitely had my emotions around it, but I think that 78 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: I've had more time to really sit with it because 79 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: I've been trying to make a decision for a while now. 80 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: And I told him that. So yeah, so that's you know, 81 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 4: kind of what we're walking now. And you know, in 82 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: the end, I feel like it's something that I did 83 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: for all of us, but it's also really to protect 84 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 4: my mental health and my happiness. And you know, it's 85 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 4: sometimes hard to take what seems like a selfish step, 86 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: you know, to take care of yourself, but I think 87 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: that that's what needed to be done. So yeah, I 88 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: mean that's basically. 89 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: Well, I just when you were sharing that, I was 90 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: just like, man, there's gonna be so many women that 91 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: can relate to that. 92 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 5: I hope. 93 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: So it feels very lonely to be that kind of woman, 94 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 4: I'll be honest, it really does, because I mean I 95 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 4: don't even really have any friends that are that way, 96 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 4: you know. I mean it's just and so it's kind 97 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: of it really is kind of a lonely feeling, you 98 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 4: feel like, you know, we always joked for so long, 99 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: Nick's the girl in the relationship and I'm the guy 100 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: because I'm just you know, I mean, I am emotional. 101 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 4: I definitely cry and am emotional, but it's just harder 102 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: for me to be vulnerable. And that's a lot of 103 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 4: from growing up in situations growing up. But also I'm realizing, like, 104 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 4: you know, I can get there. I just need to 105 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 4: work on it and I need to work on myself 106 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: and I'll get there. And you know, at the end 107 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 4: of the day, no one's to blame. I think we 108 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 4: both had issues in our marriage and things, but you know, 109 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 4: I think in the end, I will I can work 110 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: through that and kind of get But yeah, I hope 111 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 4: that helps people that feel that way, women especially, I 112 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 4: know men feel that way a lot. But you know, 113 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 4: and I've had a few people reach out to me, 114 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 4: you know, that say that it's like, oh, you know, 115 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: I feel that way too, and it's I feel like 116 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 4: nobody else does. So I do hope that that kind 117 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 4: of helps people, and you know, I'm happy to, you know, 118 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: help that in any way. 119 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 5: I hope that that does. 120 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: Help some people that feel that way. 121 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it will, and you'll, I know, listeners 122 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: that are relating to this right now will out pour 123 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: to you and then also and be asked for your 124 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: advice too, and you can you can become that vessel 125 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: of helping. It's not about it's not guiding, You're just 126 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: speaking from your experience. And that's kind of you know 127 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: where I've always tried to go like this is just 128 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: my experience and and and that's you're doing the same thing, 129 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: and like you're helping people not feel alone. And I 130 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: also think one of the thing too, that like something 131 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: you always said to me that it's like you in 132 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: a way I don't if i'm miss speaking, like please 133 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: correct me, but like you almost carried shame, like he 134 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: didn't do like he didn't cheat on me. 135 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: He didn't. He's on it like he didn't. 136 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: And it's like, I don't think people realize that you 137 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: don't like there doesn't have to. 138 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: Be a like a. It can just be what you're 139 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: going through it. 140 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 4: I mean, that was the last I don't know how 141 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: long I've been seeing Amy, but that's what I would 142 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: tell her all the time. But he didn't do anything wrong. 143 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 4: You know. It's like so it's really hard and you 144 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: know it's again it is a decision I will say 145 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: that we've made together. I mean, obviously I don't want 146 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: I want my kids to feel that, you know, to 147 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: feel that way, but yeah, I mean it was one 148 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: of those that's just like you didn't do anything wrong 149 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: and I love you as a friend, but like it's time, 150 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 4: you know, And that's tough that I battled with that 151 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: for some time and he probably did too, you know. 152 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean that's been a battle for a 153 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: very very long time. Granted my you know, my parents 154 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: were divorced in very similar situation, and you know, she 155 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: they tried to stay together for the for us for 156 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: so long, and that's one thing I didn't want to. 157 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: It's one thing I really struggled with. I'm like, is 158 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 4: this really healthy for them? Like they need to see 159 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 4: and we told them that, like you need to see 160 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 4: a marriage where your parents are affectionate and your parents Yeah, 161 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: I mean we've been very open with them, very very 162 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: and you know it's like and you know, I think 163 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 4: they know that deep down that that's what but they 164 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 4: haven't seen it. They really truly haven't seen it. So yeah, 165 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 4: I mean it was a struggle. But once I made 166 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: the decision, and you know, it was. I feel as 167 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 4: good as you can about it. I guess that's I 168 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 4: don't want to sound insensitive because I know it's it's 169 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: harder on him. I'll be honest, it is and I 170 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 4: don't want to be insensitive to that, but I truly 171 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 4: feel like it's going to be what's best for everybody. 172 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: Well, we all love you. 173 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: I love you, and I'm I'm just I'm really proud 174 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: of you, just like the work that you've done in 175 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: the last you know, a couple of years, and I 176 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: know you made a very not easy decision, and you know, 177 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: Queendom's here for you. Wind Down, wind Down, Queendom is all. 178 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: You know that we're all We're all here to support. 179 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: And I think again, this is just another opportunity to 180 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 3: help people not feel alone. And I think especially with 181 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: you know, this being Mental health month, and I think 182 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: so many people internalize things by themselves, which is and 183 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 3: then you know they it's it's just not and this 184 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: is a way to be able to okay, like you're 185 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: not alone. You are going through things and other people 186 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: are going through the same thing. 187 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: You just might not know. 188 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: That right for sure, But I am really proud of 189 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 3: you and we're gonna can I like continue to check 190 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: in on you? 191 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, You're so sweet, You're so good. 192 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, I'm supposed to be the one checking 193 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 4: on you. 194 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: No, girl, I am, I am, I am. 195 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: I'm a year out from my divorce and I'm you 196 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: know I it's now it's all about loving myself because 197 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: you know, for for me, after my divorce, I was 198 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: like a man was always something that defined me, like 199 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: being in a relationship with something that defined me. And 200 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: now it's like, no, it's it's finding me and healing alone, 201 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 3: and like that's been that's been the work that I've 202 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: had to do. And but no, I mean your days 203 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: of checking up on me are are done. 204 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: For now. We're switching roles here. 205 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 3: And I think you know and I always said and 206 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: say this to her, and because I've known, you know, 207 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: obviously this is struggles. And I think you can to 208 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: ask a friend what do you like? 209 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: What do you need? 210 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: And how can I support you? Because somebody might not 211 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 3: be ready. Like as much as I wanted y'all, of course, 212 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 3: I love both of you dearly, and I would have 213 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: loved y'all's relationship to work. At the same time, I 214 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: also think y'all deserved, you know, right, other things as well. 215 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: So it's like, what can I how can I support 216 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: can because I will support you fighting for this and 217 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: I'll also support you, you know, being a single mom, 218 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: and if you can get on my ever other weekends 219 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: so we can. 220 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 5: Go working on it. 221 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean you've been super supportive and I 222 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 4: truly appreciate that, and I do. 223 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 5: I don't. 224 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: I know, I couldn't have done it if it wasn't 225 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 4: for my friends and Amy. I know that for a fact. 226 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: So she's a she's a bestseller. 227 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: Yes, well, we love you and we'll we'll circle back 228 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: around when we have all of more people that come 229 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 3: on that can you know, help with that. But sure, 230 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 3: everyone go love on some Catherine right now. And uh, 231 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: this episode is actually sponsored by uber Eats and I 232 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: don't know about you, but Catherine, we're gonna you know, 233 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 3: our our girl Wednesday nights are just going to be 234 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: wild with and uber eats. We can uh you know, 235 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: we can order chocolate. We can order uh Kleenex and tissues, 236 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: and I think we can. 237 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 5: Get stuff for our pool parties because pool parties. 238 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, we can, we can, we can get it 239 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: all with uber eats. So that's uh, I just encourage 240 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: all the mamas, single mama's, dad as grandparents. Uber Eats 241 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: is an incredible app. It's actually just not for just 242 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: getting food delivered your house. It's anything and everything. Like 243 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: I just ordered towels and I needed Jolie wanted to 244 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: play down, so I was like, I don't. 245 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: Have time to get your kids in here, but yes, 246 00:12:58,880 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: let's just do this. 247 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break and then we're going to 248 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: get on Corinne Fox and talk more about what this 249 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: month means to her. Hi. 250 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so nice to see you. 251 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: So nice to see you too. I'm Jana. 252 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: This is Catherine, my hair is. Nice to meet you, sweetie. 253 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: I actually saw I saw you. My one girlfriend did 254 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: beach Sizam Julie. 255 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 5: Oh she did, she did. I didn't realize that she 256 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 5: was on the show. 257 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: She was on the show. 258 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, my friend, my friend Julie Solomon. Yeah, and 259 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: you know, married to my ex John and whatever and 260 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: so but yeah, it was like, god, how many years 261 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: was that? It was probably like four years ago because 262 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: she's literally the girl that was like it can play 263 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: one chord and she knows it and I'm like, can 264 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: you play the whole song because I still don't know, like, 265 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: oh oh no, I mean. 266 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm the DJ on the show. 267 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: I know, and I remember seeing man. 268 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: Admittedly, there are songs where I'm like, I don't know 269 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: how you could get it this fast because it's actually 270 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: very hard. 271 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: It's so hard. 272 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I remember seeing you and just going, God, 273 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: she is beautiful. And then what I didn't know at 274 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: the time was that you know, your dad is Jamie Fox. 275 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: So I was just like, oh wow, Like that's so 276 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: cool that you know she's working with her dad, and 277 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: how cool that one must be. So well, my friend's 278 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: on the show. I'm kind of just like, you know, 279 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: and he's like my daughter, and I was like, this 280 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: is so cool. 281 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: That's so random. I cannot believe you know someone who's 282 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: on the show. I was so curious, like what happens 283 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: to our contestants because I have fall in love with them. 284 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: They always have like such great stories, and I'm like, 285 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: they do such a good job at like vetting these people, 286 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: and they come in with so much energy and they're 287 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: so excited. So what a small world. 288 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: I know it was. 289 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: It was crazy, but I mean, and you're so do 290 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: you love doing that? 291 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: I love doing it. I'm actually right now I'm in 292 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: Ireland and shooting the fifth season of the show, which 293 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: is crazy, but it's a blast. And working with my 294 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: dad is amazing. I mean, I don't know if you 295 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: have watched multiple episodes, but he just has so much 296 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: energy and he's like a big kid. So I'm like 297 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: parenting him on the show where I'm like, he's doing 298 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: dance breaks and he doing dances he shouldn't be doing 299 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: for his age, and I'm always like, hey, let's get 300 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: back to the show, dad, So we have a really 301 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: fun relationship that I also think like a lot of 302 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: fathers and daughters can relate to with me, like iye 303 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: rolling in him, you know, trying to do like a 304 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: funny bit and I'm just not having it. So I 305 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: think a lot of people like to watch us and 306 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: and can relate. 307 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: Sure. 308 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: Speaking of Ireland, I was out there last October. I 309 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: did name that tune and they also filmed that in Ireland. 310 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: So yes's and that's the that's the same creator I 311 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: think of our show. 312 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, but you need to go Have you gone 313 00:15:55,480 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: to the Cliffs of Bling Lower. 314 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: Or have you gone I went to Dublin in college 315 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: for uh okay, so I did go there very hungover. 316 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: I think I need to go again. 317 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: But it's gorgeous, it's so pretty. Yeah. 318 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: No, so I took like a day trip and we 319 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: went there, went to Galway and then I want to 320 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,239 Speaker 3: go there if it's super cute. It's just like cobblestones 321 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 3: and like you just skipping. 322 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: Just skipping me married, Yeah, I just like drink some. 323 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: Tea and so you did. I read an interview that 324 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: you wanted to change your last name. 325 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: I considered it and I said the interview and then 326 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: I feel like it just exploded on the internet. But 327 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: I think I grew up. You know, everyone was always 328 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: looking at me. They were always interested in the things 329 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: that I was doing. And when I was going to college, 330 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: I considered for a brief moment, taking on my mom's 331 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: last name, just so I could get a fair shot. 332 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: I always like ruggled with making friends and really feeling like, 333 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, are they being genuine? Do they want something 334 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: for me? Do they just want concert tickets? Do they 335 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: just want to go to movie premieres? And not that 336 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: that ever really happened to me, but it's a constant 337 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: like insecurity and fear, and I think going into college, 338 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: I thought, well maybe if I, you know, take my 339 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: mom's last name, you know, people won't know who I 340 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: am and they'll you know, not want things from me. 341 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: And I didn't ultimately do that, but it was something 342 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: that I did deal with and struggle with. And obviously 343 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: I've been given so many blessings from my dad's career, 344 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: but there were some things that were also not so 345 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: great about it as well. 346 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: In a way, do you kind of think, like, like, 347 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: what are the things that you wish that you that 348 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 3: weren't great about it? 349 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: You know, not much. I mean, I've been so blessed 350 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: to be able to do so many great things. And 351 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: when I was ten years old, I attended the Oscars 352 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: with my dad when he won his first Oscar, and 353 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: so it's like you can't really complain. But I think 354 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: because I was constantly looked at or I felt like 355 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: people were always keeping an eye on me, I became 356 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: a bit of a perfectionist and I never wanted to 357 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: mess up. I never wanted to you know, embarrass my 358 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: dad anything that he was putting that on me. It 359 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: was just me putting it on myself, and I felt 360 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: like I couldn't really be authentic for a while, until 361 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, I got older and really found my voice. 362 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: But for a while, I really struggled with not wanting 363 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: to mess up, and I didn't really give myself the 364 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: grace to be a human. And I think children of 365 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: celebrities kind of go one of two ways. Either you 366 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: become you know, the crazy party kid that you read 367 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: about all the time, or you become me, someone who 368 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: didn't curse until I was like sixteen or seventeen because 369 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: I thought stupid was a bad word and I didn't 370 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: want to, you know, do something and say the wrong thing. 371 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: And that was a lot of pressure for a kid. 372 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I think, yeah it is. And also, 373 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: you know, people love to troll behind a computer and 374 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: say things that they don't know about you. So I'm sure, like, 375 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: is that something that you have a hard time dealing 376 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 3: with too? People that and how do you deal with that? 377 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: I think my both my parents did such a great 378 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: job at teaching me the difference between what's real and 379 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: what's not real and whose opinion to value. And my 380 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: dad is like very harsh on social media in the 381 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: terms of like not believing trolls and and and not 382 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: even giving your time a day to it. But I 383 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: think I struggled with people saying, you know, assuming I 384 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: guess like I'm spoiled and I don't work hard and 385 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: all of those things. And I always felt like I 386 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: had to prove myself. And I always felt like I 387 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: had to show up, you know, even more prepared than 388 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: somebody else, and even more you know, impressive than some 389 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: body else. And I think that was really tough on me. 390 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: But ultimately, you know, it served me. It created this 391 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: work ethic that I have that I'm very proud of 392 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: and that I get praised on all the time. And so, 393 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, it was tough, but it also you know, 394 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: build character. 395 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: How is it dating with your you know, your dad? 396 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: Oh, I get asked this all the time, you know, 397 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: in high school. It was tough. We wrote a whole 398 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: TV show about it. We did a show on Netflix 399 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: called Dad' Stuff Embarrassing Me, which was mostly about my 400 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: dating experiences with my dad because I think he was 401 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: like waiting to play this role of you know, he 402 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: grew up in Texas, so he wanted to do the 403 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: whole like shotgun bit. And so my first boyfriend that 404 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: came around, he was so hard on him. And even 405 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: my college boyfriend the next one, he was so hard 406 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: on him. And finally he learned his lesson and my 407 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: boyfriend now he is so sweet too. But I had 408 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: to go through it. I had to go through my 409 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: dad knocking on their front doors and threatening them and 410 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: threatening their families. 411 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 4: And I cannot imagine this is a high school. 412 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: Relationship is unchanged exactly, No, exactly, he really I think he. 413 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: Just I think he was playing a character because he's 414 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: such a softy. This man cries all the time. He's 415 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: super sensitive, So I think he was just like honestly 416 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: playing a character. 417 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: That's so funny. 418 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: Is there something that your dad taught you that you 419 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 3: now like within your relationship now or the relationships that 420 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: you have that is it? 421 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: Did he teach you your worth? 422 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: Is it? 423 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 3: Like? 424 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 5: What? 425 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: Where? 426 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: What are some things that like the positive things that 427 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: he instilled, like for you to have healthy relationships, assuming 428 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: you have a great healthy I have relationship. 429 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: My dad has instilled in me this incredible self worth. 430 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: My dad thinks the world of me. He tells me 431 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: all the time. He's always like, do you know who 432 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: you are? And not in this sense of like my 433 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: last name, but in the sense of how wonderful and 434 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: amazing and brilliant I am. And he makes me really 435 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: feel that. And so that's how I've always looked for 436 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: a partner, not that I'm looking for my dad, but 437 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking for someone that sees me through his eyes 438 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: and like sees how wonderful I am. And so I've 439 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: never really been in like a toxic relationship. I've never 440 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: really settled for any guy that wouldn't treat me well 441 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: because I was just like, well, my dad treats me 442 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: so wonderful, you know. It's like the opposite of daddy issues, 443 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, and so I really thank him for that. 444 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: And he also does it to my younger sister who's 445 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: thirteen right now, but that's going to carry on into 446 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: the relationships that she has and I can see it. 447 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean, it's something that's you know, because 448 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 3: I'm I'm doing a lot of like childhood trauma work again. 449 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: I feel like I do it like every five years. 450 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what I was talking to someone because 451 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 3: I'm going away to this place, and you know, I 452 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: was like, God, like, how am I here again? And 453 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: so He's like, honestly, he goes, I do it tune 454 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: up every year. He's like, I think, you know, even 455 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 3: if you didn't have a bad childhood or whatever, it's 456 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 3: like sometimes you learn something new or you have a 457 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: tune up and it's it's needed. But at the same time, 458 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: I'm just like, Okay, I know, like when my dad 459 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,239 Speaker 3: cheated on my mom, it made me feel like I 460 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: wasn't enough, and you know, it's like and it's interesting 461 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: like when little not little things, well, when moments like 462 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: that happen in your life, you start to believe that 463 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 3: that is then what you're worth is and like then 464 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: you start looking like, oh, well that's why I've been 465 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 3: in toxic and after toxic and haven't loved myself enough 466 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 3: because I didn't think. 467 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: My dad loved me. And then it's like, you know, 468 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: it just goes into this like spiral. 469 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 3: So I'm always like, okay, like how do I like 470 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: because I don't want this for my gen like my 471 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 3: kids generated. 472 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 5: Well, that's an interesting perspective. The opposite of that, Yeah, 473 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 5: my dad really. 474 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 4: Lifting her up and treating her. I mean, it's very interesting. 475 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 4: Makes you want to make sure that the men are very. 476 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 5: Good to kids. 477 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: Good on you for breaking the cycle, you know, like 478 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: and noticing it and not wanting to like pass that 479 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: on because I think so many people don't do the work. 480 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: So much easier to not do the work. I've been 481 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: in therapy since I was fourteen, so it is like 482 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: my favorite topic. It isn't my favorite thing in the world. 483 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: And you know, I do think like our generation are 484 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: is the generation that's actually like stopping these cycles because 485 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: you can see like how our parents were affected by 486 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: our grandparents so much. They're not as aware, and I 487 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: feel like we're very aware of like how our parents 488 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: have influenced us. And like even me, I'm like I 489 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: had a wonderful childhood, but I became a perfectionist. And 490 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: that's also something that doesn't serve me necessarily. 491 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: Well, it's not that it doesn't. 492 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 3: I mean, it's gotten you right to a great place 493 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: having that, but it's something that you know you don't 494 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: need to hold on to, like you don't have to 495 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: be a perfectionist. You can use it in certain aspects, 496 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 3: you know, like I think, you know, I think being 497 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: guarded doesn't serve me, But at the same time, being 498 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 3: guarded has helped me recognize things or maybe not allow 499 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: things in, but the wrong things. 500 00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the wrong thing. 501 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 3: But it's it's so hard when you go back to 502 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: well the conditioning of what we believed as little kids, 503 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 3: and so it's it's it's trickery. 504 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: We all are just like eight year olds operating as adults. 505 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: It's interesting, have you figured out what age you are? 506 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: Because I'm five? So when I get what is this? 507 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: So it's the moment that you that you basically your 508 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: worth was determined. So what age? And there was something 509 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: that I had to yeah, so or I had to 510 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: go back, and there was there was one point. Well 511 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 3: five is when I you know, I felt fear, and 512 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: then at thirteen was the second the second age. So 513 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 3: I'm either I'm between a five and a thirteen year 514 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: old when I have my like daddy issues quote unquote, 515 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: I mean, and it's funny, like you say, like now 516 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: you know with my dad, it's they they did the 517 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: best they could with they did because I looked at 518 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: my grandpa, I'm like, oh my grandpa was he didn't know. 519 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: They didn't go to therapy, you know, when when they 520 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: were that age. So it's like they you know, they 521 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 3: they didn't understand that, but yeah, it's it's it's fascinating. 522 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 3: So we encourage anyone to do some childhood work. 523 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we want. 524 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: To do the age thing. I've been in therapy since 525 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: I was fourteen, and I feel like I've covered it all, 526 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: but we have not done what. 527 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: Age am I Yeah, it's and then and then it's 528 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 3: all about like the experiential work that you do with that, 529 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 3: and it's you basically talk to that age. It's mind blowing, 530 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: like it really is, like it's. 531 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: You kind of like I know you want to you 532 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: would switch seats. 533 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 3: With you like you're you're however old girl would be, 534 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: and then you're you're talking to it. I mean it's 535 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: like yeah, and I'm probably gonna have to redo that 536 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 3: again when I go this weekend. 537 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 5: Sounds like I need to call. 538 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 3: But I do love though that someone you know, you 539 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: obviously have such a big following and you're so vocal 540 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: about anxiety, and I love like, I love that because 541 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 3: we talk a lot about anxiety on this podcast, because 542 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: I suffer from anxiety, and you know, I think at 543 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 3: times you definitely it's different, it's but it's still for sure, 544 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 3: and I'm just curious, like is does the anxiety come 545 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: from the perfectionism or does it come from a different place. 546 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: You know, I think I had a genetic predisposition to it, 547 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: and then I think it was triggered by things in 548 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: my childhood, including you know, all of the pressures or 549 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: the self imposed pressures of my last name. But there's 550 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: there's a few moments in my life that I can 551 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: definitely pinpoint to where this anxiety developed. But it wasn't 552 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: until I was fourteen that I really understood what was 553 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: going on. And that's actually a very normal time. I'm 554 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: an ambassador for NAMI, which is the National Alliance on 555 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: Mental Illness, and seventy five percent of mental health disorders 556 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: start between the ages of fourteen and twenty four, So 557 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: as soon as I turned fourteen, I was like right on, 558 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: right on time. But I remember sitting in my English 559 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: class and I could just feel my heart pounding and 560 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: my palms were and I was having this thought that 561 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: a plane was going to crash into the building and 562 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: probably some trauma from nine to eleven that I just 563 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: like didn't really understand, and I realized, Okay, this isn't normal. 564 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: I'm sure that not every other kid is sitting here 565 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: feeling this way, and for whatever reason, I had the 566 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: wherewithal to go to my parents, which seems like the 567 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: last thing a fourteen year old would do is like 568 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: be like, Mom, Dad, I'm not feeling good. But I did, 569 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: and you know, they were so gry about it, and 570 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: I met my therapist, who I still have today. I'm 571 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: twenty eight, so I'm approaching the year where I've been 572 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: with her longer than I have not been with her. 573 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, I've been working with on me ever since, 574 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: and it's been so rewarding for me. 575 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: I love that. What do you do? You still have 576 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: anxiety attacks? 577 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say panic attacks anymore. I do have panic disorder, 578 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: so I guess I could have one. But I've really 579 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 1: learned so many tools fourteen years in therapy that I 580 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: can feel when one's coming on. I have a toolkit. 581 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: I have this note in my phone that I've been 582 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: writing for the last I don't know ten years of 583 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: all these things to do if I'm not feeling well, 584 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: and I really rely on that, and it's things like 585 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: exercising and meditating and journaling and calling a friend and 586 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: all these things that seems simple but when you're having 587 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: an anxiety attack, you completely forget. You're just like, I 588 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: have no tools. I'm a little baby, and I'm you know, flailing, 589 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: and I need help. And so having this notes app 590 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: really is just like, Okay, I can just go to that. 591 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: What do I do? Ooh, I haven't done that? 592 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: Let me do that, you know, yeah for sure. 593 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 594 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: It's kind of the same thing where I'm like, all right, 595 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: I don't have to call the ambulance anymore. I know 596 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: how to do the five four three two one or 597 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: what I'm like, I'm like, what five things do I 598 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: see in the room that like, you know, and then 599 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: the breathing, But is there one that like works the 600 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: best for you? 601 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: Like technique wise, I think. 602 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: Breath control was the biggest game changer for me when 603 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: I started meditating. I really understand because of course, yes 604 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: it's calming, but there are like physiological changes that happen 605 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: if you can get your heart rate down your set 606 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: at least for me, And so when I learned how 607 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: to take a deep breath when I want to just hyperventilate, 608 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: that changed the game for me because it gives you 609 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: your control back, because when you're having an anxiety attack. 610 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: It's a complete loss of control. So if you could 611 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: do something that actually changes your physiological state, you know 612 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: it's over. You know, the panic attack is over. 613 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well I love that you, you know, are such 614 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 3: an advocate for that, and I you know, I appreciate that. 615 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 3: And where can our listeners go to find more about that? 616 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: Well, if they're struggling right now, they can go to 617 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: nome dot org. They have so many resources there. But actually, 618 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: right now, it's it's Mental Health Awareness Month, and I 619 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: just partnered with this brand called Shine the light On 620 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 1: to create this collection of like tees and honeys and 621 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: crew necks and bucket hats, and forty percent of the 622 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: proceeds are going to not me. So if they want 623 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: to just support Ammy, they can go to shine the 624 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: light on dot com and get some swag and look 625 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: cute and support mental health. 626 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: I love that. 627 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: For me, one of the big things is whenever I 628 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: feel one coming on, expressing it and talking about it 629 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 3: like I'm having a panic attack, because trying to hold 630 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: it in to pretend that I'm not having a panic attack, 631 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: it makes it like ten million times worse. 632 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure, because I mean it grows bigger 633 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: inside of you, and so when you can just like 634 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: let it out a little bit, it's like it's power 635 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: goes down. 636 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, right exactly. It's like you're you're popping, 637 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: You're popping the air out of it. But well, I 638 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 3: just I so appreciate you coming on and doing what 639 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: you do and just keeping the light that you are 640 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 3: because you're beautiful, and I just I appreciate you so 641 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 3: thank you. 642 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much. It was so wonderful. 643 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: You're sweet. 644 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: Thanks girl, have a great one, yeah too, Bye bye. 645 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: She's so sweet. 646 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: She is. 647 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: Just a breath of fresh air. 648 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 4: That just made me think about the time we were 649 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 4: in the small airplane. 650 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: Oh god, and. 651 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: I really haven't dealt with probably. 652 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it was after and that really hadn't dealt 653 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 5: with panic. 654 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 4: I mean I've never truly had a panic attack, never 655 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 4: really been around people with panic were in this. 656 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 5: I mean it was a small plane. 657 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: Can we no, No, let's just let's just go back. 658 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: It's not just a small plane. I mean you can't move. 659 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: It's a what was a four seater the six? Okay, 660 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: but like the six it was like pilot. Yeah, it 661 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: was like like like you know, you can't see me 662 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: right now in the thing. But we're like literally like 663 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 3: this and I had just we had just Bratley and 664 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: I had just broken up and I was a hot mess. 665 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Well just made me think of that 666 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 4: extra time about how you to talk about it, Oh, 667 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 4: you had to talk about it? 668 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 5: Was like but can I get off the plane if 669 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 5: I have to? And I'm like, no, you can't. 670 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 4: Get off the plane and she's like, but if I 671 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 4: have to, that's what you're saying, is it? 672 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: Because like the worst thing about having a panic attack 673 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: is like you can't, like you feel stuck, right. So 674 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, so I'm like starting to feel it come on, 675 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 3: and I'm already like, oh my god, like I'm gonna be. 676 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 5: Alone forever. 677 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 4: As much as I do. It all makes so much 678 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 4: more sense. But in the moment, because I mean, i mean, 679 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 4: we knew. 680 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 5: Each other well, but like it was the first true. 681 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 4: I was just like, finally, I was like, oh, I'm 682 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: supposed to tell her we can get off the plane. 683 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 5: Yeah it's not possible, but sure, yeah we can get 684 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 5: off the plane. It's fine. 685 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: I'm glad you finally caught onto that because I was like, 686 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: it took me a little, and I was like with 687 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 3: Lisa with us too? Was that the one Lisa was 688 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 3: oncause I think she was having a panic attack too. 689 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 4: I'll have to remember you. I just remember you being 690 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 4: in front of me. I can still visualize it. 691 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm like, Catherine, I'm having a panic attack. 692 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 3: I don't want to do the show. I don't want 693 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: to do I can't do the show. And You're like, 694 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 3: we have to do the show. And I was like, no, no, Gather, 695 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: I can't do the show. And then I'm having a 696 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 3: companion attack. I'm like, how do I cancel the show? 697 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: This is like when I was like, somewhat on top 698 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: of not not you have someone, you know, successful in music. 699 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 2: You were like, and so you know what I mean now? 700 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: Like I was like I actually had a label and stuff. 701 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 3: But and then I was like, well, I need to 702 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: I need you to turn the plane around. She's like, 703 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: we can't turn the plane around. 704 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: I was like, what are mean we. 705 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 5: Can't turn the plane around? 706 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 3: Please? 707 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 4: Like I'm going to have to get on this thing 708 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 4: and tell him, yeah around. 709 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 3: So I was like, I get I'm glad you finally 710 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 3: caught on to the fact that I was like I 711 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 3: need you to tell me we can turn this plane around. 712 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're not going. 713 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 2: To, but if we had to, I was like what 714 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 2: if I dit like if. 715 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 3: We had to turn the plane around too? Like That's 716 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 3: what I remember. One time, I think I was fine 717 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: to Scotland. Oh yeah I was, and I was my ex. 718 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 3: We were flying to Scotland for a friend, my friend's 719 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: wedding and we just had Jason. So I was like, 720 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 3: so like you know, hormonal or whatever, anxious, and I 721 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 3: remember I started to have a panic attack on the 722 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 3: plane because I'm like, this is a ten hour it's 723 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 3: like and I remember going back to the flight aten 724 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,479 Speaker 3: I was like, can I least have some ice because 725 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 3: I wanted you know, one of the tricks is to 726 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 3: put ice on your like your palm, your back, of 727 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: your neck. And I just started like doussing myself with 728 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: like ice. 729 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: And then I was like, so it's like someone had 730 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 2: to stop the plane because of like a panic attack 731 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 2: or like you know. 732 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 3: She was just like I would basically say, like what 733 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: what is the protocol for that? Like how does like 734 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 3: this does one does one get. 735 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: To stop a plane? 736 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: And she was basically just like I mean, if it 737 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 3: was like a dire situation. 738 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: So I was like, enough, so if I have to 739 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: like flail myself, which I'll never do, knock on wood, 740 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: but like, do you know what I mean? 741 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, like except for unless you're stuck on the interstate 742 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 4: with bad weather and then by golly, you're getting off. 743 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: Oh we're getting off. Hey. But you should be very 744 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 2: proud of me. 745 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 3: I have started to drive on the expressway, very big step. 746 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 3: Like you've done it multiple times now, I think three times. 747 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 3: I sent a picture as I'm driving. I sent a 748 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: picture to Queendom and I was like, look girls, I'm 749 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 3: on the expressway. 750 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 5: No. 751 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 4: The thing is that you didn't even say, look girls, 752 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 4: I'm on the express It was just a phone and 753 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 4: everybody knew. 754 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 5: That's sure, that's sure. 755 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 2: That was my internal brain. 756 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 5: And you're right. I didn't say we all knew. 757 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, you know, but I think 758 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 3: and what you will see too is some things that 759 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: maybe you It could be with affection, I don't know, 760 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 3: but like or whatever, like with my anxiety or me 761 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 3: feeling like I always have to have a relationship, which 762 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 3: now I'm like, I don't want one. I'm going to 763 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 3: love them. I'm going to be happy alone, Like I'm 764 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 3: going to drive on an expressway. I don't need a 765 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: man that like make me feel like a few daddy issues. 766 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 3: I'm on my third round of like an intensive therapy thing, like. 767 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 2: Let's do this. 768 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: Go. 769 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, you start to like feel 770 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 3: like oh, like little little moments of like healing are 771 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 3: like good. 772 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 773 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: And that was like a small, small victory. 774 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 4: Small victories, yeah, for sure. 775 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 2: Like going on uber eats app. 776 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 3: You know that, small little victories when you don't have 777 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 3: to like get the kids in the car. Yeah, and 778 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 3: four different places. Yeah, because I needed a speaker for 779 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: the pool party, I needed towels, I needed groceries and 780 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: then and. 781 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 4: You were probably about to have a panic attack because 782 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 4: you didn't have it. 783 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: Do I eat? 784 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 3: Yes, seriously, so thank you Uber eats. And if you 785 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 3: want to do a one stop on your phone, you 786 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 3: can get it all that day? 787 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 2: Oh did you so? I started writing some new songs. 788 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 5: Did you hint? 789 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: Did that one song remind you of something? Which one 790 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 2: this somewhere or out there? 791 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 4: And I don't think so, okay, well there was shouldn't have. 792 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 3: Well we're in the middle of right the song and 793 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 3: I go, guys, does this remind you of that one song, 794 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 3: that one song, No but fible No somewhere Beneath the Palm, 795 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 3: come on, I mean vaguely, it's like I'm trying to 796 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 3: sing in a chipmunk voice, okay or whatever that. 797 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 2: It's like a it's not it's like song. 798 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 3: The whole song was basically about, like I know here, 799 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 3: you're out there somewhere. 800 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: It's it's Linda Ron's status from American Tale. It is fireful, You're. 801 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 5: Lindsat Man. 802 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 2: I can't remember how it goes, but I'm gonna do. 803 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 3: We have a little odd I don't even think we 804 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 3: could probably play it, but AnyWho, it is for some reason, 805 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 3: because the whole song was like I'm I was like, 806 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 3: what's like the next song I'm gonna write about? 807 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: Right? 808 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, I'm good, but like 809 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 3: I just I wonder, like if you're out there praying 810 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 3: like I'm praying for it, you know, like one day, yeah, 811 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 3: it'll be a great day, but right now, like, stay 812 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 3: the heck away, I'm good. 813 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: I'm kidding. 814 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 5: I don't need you. 815 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: I don't need you. 816 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 2: Oh man. 817 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 3: Well, I love you guys, and I hope you guys 818 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 3: have a great rest of the day and go to 819 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 3: Catherine's page and fill her with lots of love because 820 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 3: we love you, Cat, and hopefully we were able to 821 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 3: give you some smiles. 822 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: And you know you can always make fun of me, right. 823 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 3: Because that's that's how you make Thank you Sorry. 824 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 2: She's like, as long as we can like crack jokes at. 825 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 5: You, it just makes me feel at home. 826 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 3: Next week we will be back and we will be 827 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 3: in one step closer to healing. But let's not forget 828 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 3: to download the uber eats app because it is easy. 829 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 3: It saves time. So save your time and order with 830 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 3: the uber eats app today again. 831 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 2: You can get anything like from. 832 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 3: Groceries to I don't know if you want to order, 833 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 3: like I ordered a Pokey bowl the other day because 834 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 3: I was hungry for dinner. Cookbooks now that I'm on 835 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 3: a big crock pot recipe search, Oh I need that too. 836 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah I know, Katherine. 837 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 3: Catherine DM me and goes hey, single mom, send me, 838 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 3: send me the recipe about to be one. 839 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 5: What we do have in commonists We both can't cook, Yeah. 840 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 3: I know, so, oh you know we should do Wednesday night. 841 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 3: Can't cook single mom night. 842 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 5: We teach like we teach each other how to cook see. 843 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 3: Little things, and Uber eats is going to help us 844 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 3: with that with the cookbooks because we can get anything 845 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 3: from there. 846 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 2: Download the app today, See you guys next week.