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Speaker 1: We are live in Chicago. It's The Herd. Wherever you

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Speaker 1: may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: making us part of your day. You know, it's interesting

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Speaker 1: as there's people out there. One of the things I've

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Speaker 1: learned over the course of my life, people that complain a.

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Speaker 3: Lot don't create a lot. So a rule I try.

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Speaker 1: To make part of my life is I surround myself

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Speaker 1: with creators and not complainers. It's just a psychology, a

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Speaker 1: psychological truth. It's a psychological truth. I mean Harvard's done

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Speaker 1: study optimists are more successful in life professionally than pessimists.

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Speaker 3: So when anybody rips on.

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Speaker 1: The NBA taking a stab with the NBA Cup, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you don't even watch the league. You're just a complainer,

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Speaker 1: which means you're not a creator, which means you're a pessimist,

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Speaker 1: not an optimist. No thanks, I don't want that life.

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Speaker 1: So last night I'm watching the NBA Cup and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: the NBA got more wem beyond TV and more New

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Speaker 1: York Knicks on TV.

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Speaker 3: I'm for it. Baseball did this.

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Speaker 1: They put baseball games in London, the Yankees, Red Sox,

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Speaker 1: the Mets, Phillies. They put him in a cornfield. They

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Speaker 1: put him in Bristol Mortar Speedway. Rob Manfred took six

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Speaker 1: or seven swings. I mean, baseball's on a two to

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Speaker 1: three year heater. The games feel bigger, faster. I like

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Speaker 1: the NBA Cup. I think the editor about two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I'm walking through an area and there's six TVs on

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Speaker 1: and one of the courts is bright purple, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: these games are different. I think it's smart. And I

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Speaker 3: And they're into it.

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Speaker 1: I mean they were more into this than they were

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Speaker 1: during COVID playing games in Orlando where everybody missed their family.

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Speaker 1: I think the players are into it. So all these

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Speaker 1: regular seasons, the NHL, the MLS baseball, the NBA baseball

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Speaker 1: strangely has been the most progressive and the most willing

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Speaker 1: to take big swings. Kind of push that way by

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports or managements like create events and they work

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Speaker 1: and they get TV ratings and they get people talking.

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Speaker 1: But like hockey created the Four Nations tournament. I think

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Speaker 1: it was a massive hit. It was a shockingly big hit.

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Speaker 1: So Silicon Valley is the most innovative place, maybe in

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Speaker 1: the world, certainly in America. Their hit rate is probably

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Speaker 1: about fifteen percent. Take a swing. Avoid people who criticize

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Speaker 1: stuff yet don't consume it. Like rural Guy in the

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Speaker 1: South ripping California. The weather's perfect and the economy is

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Speaker 1: the fourth biggest in the world. I think California's doing Okay,

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Speaker 1: rural Guy, maybe go there more than once a life

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Speaker 1: for Disney. Okay, So I watched the NBA Cup. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how good the Knicks are. They don't have

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Speaker 1: much of a bench, they don't defend the three. I

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Speaker 1: always feel like Carl Anthony Towns and Jalen Brunson on

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Speaker 1: Og had a great night but I feel like the

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Speaker 1: four leading odds to win the NBA Championship are all

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Speaker 1: Knicks can match an Okay See, well they can't okay

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they can.

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Speaker 1: But it felt like last night, big third quarter run,

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Speaker 1: thirteen to one run, they were into it. The league

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Speaker 1: is trying to create, like Baseball, some memorable events.

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Speaker 3: The Knicks have a new head coach.

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Speaker 1: This may be the biggest championship they went over the

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Speaker 1: next several years.

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Speaker 3: But it's a swing.

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Speaker 1: It's something I saw Yannis win this thing, Lebron win it.

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Speaker 1: Now the Knicks win it, and you can't tell me

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Speaker 1: the league's not happy with it. I don't know again

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Speaker 1: how viable the Knicks are in the playoffs, but optimists

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Speaker 4: They are a game like this, an environment like this.

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Speaker 4: You don't really see her on the NBA too often,

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Speaker 4: and so we got to take advantage of the experience

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Speaker 5: With working is we wanted more games of consequence than

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Speaker 5: the players respond to the fans that responding. Players are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm never going to criticize one of these sports

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Speaker 1: leagues for taking swings. You know, Rob Manfred. Baseball's always

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Speaker 1: And Rob Manfred's taken a lot of heat and he's like,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna speed the game up. Bigger bases, regular season,

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Speaker 1: the traditionalists don't love it. Baseball is so much more

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Speaker 1: consumable today than it was five years ago, not even close.

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Speaker 1: You can turn in for forty five minutes and get three,

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Speaker 1: four innings and the NBA Cup, the weird floors. I

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Speaker 1: like the swing, I really do. I appreciate it, and

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Speaker 1: I think the Knicks did too.

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Speaker 3: All Right, So I've been.

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Speaker 1: Saying that you can't love Caleb Williams of the Bears

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Speaker 1: at their first two years in the NFL, they both

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Speaker 1: I'm putting this on the screen for our television viewer, sorry, radio.

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Speaker 1: They're the same quarterback through two years now. Caleb's got

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Speaker 1: But the Next Gen came out with a stat this

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Speaker 1: all year. Caleb and Bo they're really the same guy,

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Speaker 1: one with a bigger arm. They're even about the same height,

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Speaker 1: hyper athletic, very coachable, strangely great in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: Here they are in order, Caleb one, bow Knicks two,

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Speaker 1: was mocked yesterday saying Bo Nicks reminds me of a young,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't feel quite as dynamic bow and Caleb, and

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Speaker 1: look at their teams. I'm telling you you can't love

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Speaker 1: one without the other. We're spending so much time because

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Speaker 1: Chicago's a big market, a very loud media, I kind

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Speaker 1: of feel like I'm getting the same guy demanding coach durable,

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Speaker 1: don't take sacks. At least this year, Caleb's not taking

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Speaker 1: which is almost never the case with young quarterbacks. They're

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Speaker 1: usually good on script, early, bad late in crisis. These

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Speaker 1: two are really special. I think everybody knows Caleb is special.

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Speaker 1: People are reluctant with Bo Nick. Love them both. And

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Speaker 1: here is Caleb on his biggest game, maybe as a pro,

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Speaker 6: We've played teams that have a bunch of wins. We

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Speaker 6: played teams that don't. We've played close games, We've played

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Speaker 6: you know, teams, teams where we had to win with

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Speaker 6: special teams offense, defense, whatever case, running ball, whatever case.

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Speaker 6: And so I feel that we're, you know, we're ready

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Speaker 6: and I like our chances us first anybody.

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Speaker 1: And I think both Denver and bow and Chicago and Caleb.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the rosters, the coaching and what

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Speaker 1: these teams do well, they're built for the playoffs. This

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Speaker 1: is these aren't warm weather teams that are finas and

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Speaker 1: they're throwing the ball over the top. My Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: seven teams in it, my Super Bowl bubble has the Rams, Seattle,

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Speaker 1: and Denver as the teams that should be favored in

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Speaker 1: my Super Bowl bubble, and then the Bears, Patriots, Texans,

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Speaker 1: I have the Chargers Niners in Eagles out of the bubble,

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Speaker 1: but close. Based on what I view as an issue

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Speaker 1: that's not correctable. O line for the Chargers will eventually

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Speaker 1: be their doom defense. Saula is doing an unbelievable job,

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Speaker 1: but it's just not good enough to win multiple playoff games.

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Speaker 1: And I think you have a head coach coordinator issue

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. I don't care how good the roster is.

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Speaker 1: They've been broken since Week one. This is not like

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Speaker 1: a recent trend. They haven't had back to back great

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Speaker 1: offensive games all year. Jmack thoughts on that Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: bubble that has both Caleb.

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Speaker 7: And Nicks and no defending Super Bowl champion Eagles.

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Speaker 8: At first blush, you know it's funny.

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Speaker 7: I was talking about this with someone of my podcasts

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Speaker 7: last week, Colin, I don't understand who the clear favorites

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Speaker 8: The league is so wide open heading into.

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Speaker 7: These playoffs that at first blush, I don't totally hate

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Speaker 7: this Super Bowl bubble.

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Speaker 8: I know people are scoffing. I come on, Broncos.

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Speaker 7: If the Broncos made the Super Bowl, I wouldn't be shocked.

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Speaker 7: It's so wide open. The Chiefs have fallen off badly.

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Speaker 7: No Joe Burrow. We don't even know if Lamar Jackson's

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Speaker 7: getting in. I think it's why this is the most

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Speaker 7: wide open I think it's been in probably a decade, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what happens is the Keno winning super Bowls. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is either having a superstar quarterback who takes a

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Speaker 1: bit of a team friendly deal. This year's Matt Stafford

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Speaker 1: and the Rams, yeah right right, or having a really

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Speaker 1: it up. Socago's roster, you and I have it on

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Speaker 1: this all year. Chicago's rosters excellent. I mean, receivers tight,

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Speaker 1: They safety corner. So if you start looking at this,

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Speaker 1: it's Matt Stafford taking a team friendly deal, Sam Darnold

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Speaker 1: taking a team friendly deal, and then you have Drake May,

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, bow Nicks on.

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Speaker 3: Rookie deals, Stroud as well, c J. Stroud as well.

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Speaker 1: The only exception I have in there is Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: and I've got them closer to being out because I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna wait till Ed Oliver gets back on the d line.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk that'll that'll help their defensive line,

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Speaker 1: it'll help their their run defense. But if you look

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Speaker 1: at the teams in the bubble, Sam Darnold, by the way,

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Speaker 1: very team friendly deal. So this idea that you can

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Speaker 1: have Mahomes or Josh Allen, but if you're paying fifty

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Speaker 7: Is it Dion Dawkins?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Let mean yeah, well name their splash players on defense

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Speaker 1: People say certain things and they're just not true, but

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Speaker 1: they believe them. They double down on them, they triple

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Speaker 1: are so burdened, bothered, paralyzed by a quarterback who throws

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Speaker 1: interceptions this whole. Sam Darnold throws too many picks. As

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Speaker 1: long as your production is high, I don't have a

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Speaker 3: I don't have to love them, but.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather you have picks and throw the ball down

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Speaker 1: the field. What do these seven quarterbacks have in common Shallen,

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Dak Mahomes, Trevor Lawrence, Justin Herbert bow Knicks.

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Speaker 1: They're all in the top eleven of interceptions this year.

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Speaker 1: The fewest, by the way, is like Jared Goff and

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. But their pocket based quarterbacks that don't create

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Speaker 1: anything outside of structure. I prefer playmakers outside of structure.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Matt Stafford, the year he won the Super

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Speaker 3: Peyton Manning, and he missed a year.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, folks, for the last six teams that

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Speaker 1: example of this. Bow Knicks has nine picks this year.

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Speaker 7: Whoa.

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Speaker 1: But when trailing, he has sixteen touchdowns in one pick.

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Speaker 1: When do you throw them? You know, don't throw him

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Speaker 1: Then it gets picked at the nine. That's better than

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Speaker 1: the punter could do. It's a change of possession. Brock Purty.

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Speaker 1: He throws picks in the NFL. Kyle Shanan loves him

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Speaker 1: because he takes a swing. So this Sam Donald narrative,

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Speaker 1: you can't win big with Sam Darnald. Last two years

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Speaker 3: From that day until now three.

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Speaker 1: Different teams, he's the winning his quarterback in the league

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Speaker 1: more picks. The Eagles are literally trying to get Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts to throw fewer times because they win more and

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Speaker 1: when he throws less, that's what I don't want. I

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Speaker 1: Think about Seattle. Seattle is so much better this year

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Speaker 1: than last. And that's letting go of a Pro Bowl receiver,

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. What was the only change? Sam Darneld and

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Speaker 1: a new coordinator. You guys watched the Vikings offense this year.

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Speaker 3: What happened? One major change?

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Speaker 1: Quarterback left, same coach, same coordinators, same wide receiver, same

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Speaker 1: lost Darnald. So this whole thing Hayton Manning in a

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Speaker 1: the world has changed. If you can make plays with

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Speaker 1: not just now about safe distribution. Here's Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 10: you know, playing these guys last time, obviously it wasn't

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Speaker 10: we've been practicing, you know, stand the details. But again,

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Speaker 10: this team's a very good, very good defense.

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Speaker 3: It's a very good team.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting in a game in which he had four picks,

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks were moving for the win because Sam makes

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Speaker 1: left guard, but it's basically Darnald and a new coordinator.

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Speaker 1: JSN was on it the year before. I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: big swings, aggressive quarterbacks who throw occasional picks every day

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Speaker 1: of the week, over underneath safeguy every day of the week.

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Speaker 3: J Mack with a news no, no turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the headline news.

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Speaker 8: Well, Colin, let's start with a quarterback who throws a

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Speaker 8: lot of interceptions and he just got binged.

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Speaker 2: And that's two.

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Speaker 7: The Miami Dolphins announced this morning that Quinn Ewers, the

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Speaker 7: rookie out of Texas once I mean, highly acclaimed high

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Speaker 8: He will start this week against the Cincinnati Bengals. Now listen, I.

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Speaker 7: Don't act like I saw this coming or anything, but

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Speaker 7: I told you before the show last night, I bet

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Speaker 7: Cincinnati it was like minus two. Because of Mike McDaniel's

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Speaker 7: He looked ticked off. I thought we'd get Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 7: It might be worse we get quinn Ewers against the Bengals.

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Speaker 8: This is team has anything to play for.

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Speaker 1: This is another I'm telling you the Miami Dolphins, this

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Speaker 1: should be the guide book on how to get rid

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Speaker 1: of a coach. Potentially, so they fire the GM who

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Speaker 1: gave the extension to Tua and it had really frankly,

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Speaker 1: you don't bring in Tua, spend all your money on

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. The GM needed to be fired. Now they

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Speaker 1: benched the quarterback. If you have to move to it,

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Speaker 1: you don't want him banged up, you want him healthy.

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Speaker 1: You bring in the less ready backup, quinn Ewers instead

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Speaker 1: of Zach Wilson. Zach today would probably be better than

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Speaker 1: Quin yours, virtually guaranteeing a lost to Cincy, New England

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Speaker 1: and the Bucks. So you're going to end up being

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Speaker 1: what six and eleven? Your current eleventh pick probably ends

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Speaker 1: This is how you do it. You don't fire a

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Speaker 1: coach for the record. Whoever they get a quarterback, maybe

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Speaker 1: yours lights it up.

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Speaker 3: I doubt it, but maybe he does.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you settle on at quarterback, you and I would

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Speaker 1: both agree you'd want to give him a young, creative,

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Speaker 3: So my take on this is the way to do it.

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Speaker 1: I agree with every I would have fired the GM,

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Speaker 1: I would have benched to it. I would have played yours.

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Speaker 8: I'm with you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 7: Is a great take. This is a soft tank. That's

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Speaker 7: let's just call it what it is, an intelligent tank,

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Speaker 7: an intelligent tank. And Washington's doing the same. Jayden Daniels,

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Speaker 7: he could probably play where you gonna sit him down, Okay,

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Speaker 7: to New York Jets. My jets, Hey, Justin Fields is

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Speaker 7: dinged up.

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Speaker 8: Then we're gonna go.

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Speaker 7: Tyren Taylor, No, No, we're going to this rookie from

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 7: We're not trying to win games, but we want to

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Speaker 7: see what we've got, Colin, we got.

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Speaker 8: We gotta see what these young guys a.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 8: I do want to go on to too. Just for

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Speaker 7: I don't think Mike McDaniel and him were like a

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Speaker 7: failure in Miami.

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Speaker 8: Remember he took over for Brian Floores.

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Speaker 7: It was a dumpster fire floor as wanted nothing to

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Speaker 7: do with Tua. McDaniel makes the playoffs twice with Tua,

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Speaker 7: So like that is kind of impressive in Miami.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I said this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: There's an argument he overachieved with Tua. Okay, Tua at

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Speaker 3: Passing yards.

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Speaker 1: Tua in a and just forget the sport in a

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Speaker 1: conference with mahomes Lamar Josh Allen Herbert. So you can

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Speaker 1: argue he overachieved. But what happened with Tua is what

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Speaker 1: happened to Russell Wilson and what is happening to Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: Small quarterbacks fall off a cliff physically. Remember Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: were like, what the hell happened?

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Speaker 8: But he got his thirties, was still in his twenties.

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Speaker 1: He has regressed badly in the last year. When you

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Speaker 1: watch Tua play little guys, do you think Tua could

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Speaker 1: withstand the justin her this season?

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Speaker 8: No way. I mean he looks afraid to run.

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Speaker 1: And I heard this first year on Kyler Murray at Arizona.

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Speaker 1: bumped into him. Actually A bumped into him a place

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Speaker 1: He goes, I sacked him, he winced, he goes. I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you he does not like his heart is not

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Speaker 3: He goes.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard the sounds he makes when I hit

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, Like big guys shrug it off. Little guys,

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Speaker 1: they're like in pain. These little quarterback. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart, I wish he was a little bigger, spends

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Speaker 7: You know, you can look at some of the gambling lines,

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Speaker 8: Is like plus six thousand. Basically it's never.

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Speaker 7: Gonna And then you look and he scrabbled I think

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Speaker 7: once for like three yards against the Steelers, and it

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Speaker 8: I was like, oh.

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Speaker 7: Damn he if you get him off a spot, he's

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Speaker 7: kind of useless. Yep. I mean again, it's gonna be

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Speaker 7: an interesting offseason, Colin. I'll just say this, the GM

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Speaker 7: did a horrific job the last four years. He had

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Speaker 7: one good draft pick in Devin h Chan. By the way,

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Speaker 7: they took a guy named Kenneth Grant thirteenth. Okay, Tyler

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Speaker 7: Warren went fourteenth. Tyler Ward's killing it with the cold,

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Speaker 7: so the GM botched it. I think McDaniels gets another

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Speaker 7: shot next year. Good luck to Quinn yours. Let's move

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Speaker 7: on to all the Philadelphia Eagles, Colin. Obviously, nice bounce

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Speaker 7: back from Jalen Hurts against the Raiders. I guess that's

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Speaker 7: you know, an NFL team. Hirts has gotten a lot

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Speaker 7: of criticism throughout the season and was asked how he

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Speaker 7: responds to pressure from outside the building.

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Speaker 4: Perception of those who are watching. I'm not watching, I'm living.

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Speaker 3: So why I am?

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Speaker 10: So? Why I am?

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Speaker 3: It's my focus is some of my first rodeo.

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Speaker 8: Go ahead, I know you want to make fun of him.

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Speaker 8: I see a little smirk there, a smirk emerging.

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Speaker 7: Cowhart wants to take a shot at the sound bites

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Speaker 7: from Jalen Hurts. It's like he's reading some like scholarly texts,

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Speaker 7: some philosophy.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a good guy.

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Speaker 1: He can be a little you know, he can be

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Speaker 1: a little Russell Wilson, a little cliche, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have that than start fires and be cocky

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Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, I'm fine.

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Speaker 8: So quick thoughts on the Eagles. They play Washington this week.

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Speaker 8: They should get to.

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Speaker 7: Win, play Washington twice exactly, so I haven't bet this,

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Speaker 7: but I'm curious. If they win, Dallas is eliminating. It's

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Speaker 7: over for the Cowboys. Okay, at that point, you get

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Speaker 7: two weeks before your first game.

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Speaker 8: The Eagles will not going to buy does.

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Speaker 7: Philly saying let's start resting some guys sake, one, you

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Speaker 7: haven't had the legs. You want a week or two

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Speaker 7: off take it or do you think they need to

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Speaker 7: get like some rhythm going to head into the playoffs,

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Speaker 7: because it's an interesting discussion for the.

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing that Philadelphia is going

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Speaker 1: to get their rhythm when they face the best teams

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I've watched this offense. It's been broken

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Speaker 1: for sixteen fifteen weeks. So the idea that you're going

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Speaker 1: to face better defenses, better coordinators, better coaching, better teams,

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Speaker 1: and then you'll find your rhythm. Philly is what they are,

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Speaker 1: stack roster led by their defense, can't run the ball,

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Speaker 1: using excuses while our offensive lines dinged up. Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: is ten and what four and he's missing both tackles

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Speaker 1: and as the worst offensive line PFF in the league,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about the injuries to the

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Speaker 1: O line. How in the hell are the Chargers winning

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Speaker 1: these games? Head coach toughness, I'm tired of the excuses.

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Speaker 1: It's a broken offense between head coach and OC. It's suboptimal. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: strong and tough.

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Speaker 8: To argue that.

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Speaker 7: One final story, let's go to your boy, Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 7: You know, maybe he's taking cues from Mike Tomlin with

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Speaker 7: soundbites Colin.

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Speaker 8: This is interesting.

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Speaker 7: So Aaron Rodgers was talking about the team and who's contributing,

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Speaker 7: and he for some reason mentioned a bunch of cast

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Speaker 7: offs that Pittsburgh has brought in this season. Take a

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Speaker 7: listen to this.

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Speaker 11: That's kind of why after the game, there's some cast

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Speaker 11: offs if you look at our roster, which it makes

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Speaker 11: it really special. You know, Kenny Gamwell signed a next

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Speaker 11: to nothing contract. You know Connor Hayward after thought a

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Speaker 11: touchdown run. You know Mark Quest been on a couple

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Speaker 11: of teams, Adam Cleeland got cut, Samuel was on the

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Speaker 11: street for a long time. So says a lot about

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Speaker 11: the character of the guys we brought in.

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Speaker 2: Consider yourself one of those cast offs too.

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Speaker 11: No, I'm not a castle.

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Speaker 7: So the reporter for those who couldn't hear, said, are

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Speaker 7: you a cast off as well?

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Speaker 8: And he goes, no, I'm not a cast off.

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Speaker 7: But but Colin, after his Darkness retreat, the Packers kicked him.

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Speaker 1: To the curb.

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Speaker 7: Well, just kicked him to the curb and he wonted Minnesota,

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Speaker 7: and Minnesota.

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Speaker 8: Was like, we're good.

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Speaker 3: So what is the definition? Ryan?

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Speaker 1: What's the Google definition? Of cast off because I think

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Speaker 1: and also, let's be fair, I have support. I think

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Speaker 1: Aaron's been tremendous this year. This offense has been tone

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Speaker 1: deaf for seven years. They still have no run game,

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Speaker 1: and Aaron's gonna win the division. I have been one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent in Aaron's corner all year.

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Speaker 3: So here it is.

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Speaker 1: Here's the definition of cast off no longer wanted, abandoned,

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Speaker 1: or discarded. So I don't think it's fair to say

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Speaker 1: because basically Aaron made the Steelers wait for him. Aaron

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Speaker 1: wasn't waiting for the Steelers, so he does not qualify

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Speaker 1: as a cast off.

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Speaker 8: Okay, So I mean I guess technically you're right.

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Speaker 7: Well ye, Yet remember he flew across the country to

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Speaker 7: meet with the Jets and they're like, twenty two seconds

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Speaker 7: into the interview, we're good, thanks, man, have a nice

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Speaker 7: life now getting cast off.

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Speaker 1: By no I would say he didn't have a huge

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Speaker 1: market like Minnesota. Probably should have gone with him. I

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Speaker 1: would have, but let we've.

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Speaker 8: Got this headache.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 7: He's basically, first of all, Kelly Adam feeling a cast off, stealing,

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Speaker 7: asked to be released so he could go to a

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Speaker 7: contender like I mean, come on, I feel like he

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Speaker 7: keeps knocking people like that's just not a nice thing

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Speaker 7: to say.

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Speaker 1: I would say Aaron made the Steelers wait for him,

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Speaker 1: therefore eliminating the term cast off. A cast off is

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Speaker 1: you're desperate for work and nobody's interested. The Steelers wish

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Speaker 1: he would have two months earlier definitively embraced them. They

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Speaker 1: had to sit and wait for him. That's not a

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Speaker 1: cast off. It's not about your resume. Cast off basically

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Speaker 1: means you're discarded, nobody's really interested. You're kind of bottom

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Speaker 1: of the barrel. Aaron has been the only consistent redeemable

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Speaker 1: part of the Steelers this year.

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Speaker 3: TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watson banged up defense, giving up big plays, Jalen Ramsey's

556
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Speaker 1: hitt and miss I get the same aeron virtually.

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Speaker 8: Every week allons.

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Speaker 7: Oh, come on, Lions, he got me rooting against Rogers

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Speaker 7: and the Steelers. Steelers fans are getting ornery. By the way,

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Speaker 7: what do you think they're getting in or no?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the Ravens schedule. I mean, you know

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Speaker 3: it's good. What about this?

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Speaker 1: The Ravens Steelers will come down to the final game

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Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh. Probably probably, I would probably take the Ravens

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Speaker 1: in that spot.

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Speaker 7: That's gonna be so anti Steelers. People need Lions this week,

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Speaker 7: all right, Jared Goff, get it done. I think the

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Speaker 7: Lions win this, don't they?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do too.

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Speaker 1: Raven's got a bit of a break with the Packers

571
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Speaker 1: getting beat up, but New England getting beat at home

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Speaker 1: probably plays one of their games of the year.

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Speaker 7: That's an interesting matchup. I don't know what to make

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Speaker 7: of the Ravens defense. Is it real or is it

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Speaker 7: not good?

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Speaker 8: Couldn't stop Rogers, shut out the Burrow and company.

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Speaker 3: It's okay. Jmck with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The

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Speaker 1: What does that mean for the NFL? NFL going forward?

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Speaker 1: This nil lucrative paying college quarterbacks. Eight teams need a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: One top quarterback so far, as said, I'm going pro.

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Speaker 1: So Joe Lake has been one of those owners in

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Speaker 1: professional sports.

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Speaker 3: He's about winning.

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Speaker 1: He'll spend whatever it takes for years and years, massive

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Speaker 1: salary tax hit.

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Speaker 3: Kind of the opposite of the Lakers. He didn't care.

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Speaker 3: He wanted to win.

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Speaker 1: And you know in Silicon Valley, he get up the

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Speaker 1: prices in the real estate around him and they're building

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Speaker 1: a new arena and he's a great owner. Really recently,

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Speaker 1: one of his private I guess emails was made public

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Speaker 1: by somebody and in the email, Joe lacub, you know,

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Speaker 1: he had said to somebody a fan, you can't be

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Speaker 1: as frustrated as I am.

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Speaker 3: I'm working on it.

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Speaker 1: It's complicated style of play, coaches, desires regarding players, league trends.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy is not the problem, being Jimmy Butler. So here's

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Speaker 1: what in fact, by the way, and this is like

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Speaker 1: part of the problem. Jonathan Kaminga is really talented. Three

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Speaker 1: straight d NPS coach's decision not playing Why Because the

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Speaker 1: Warriors have transitioned from whatever it takes to win to

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Speaker 1: a circumstances franchise. Steph can't be traded and anybody you

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Speaker 1: acquire has to be able to play in Steph's offense. Well,

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Speaker 1: that limits youth in the very young Deep West. The

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Speaker 1: Warriors are old and slow, bottom three and fast breakpoints,

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Speaker 1: you know, thirteen and fourteen's or records exactly what they are.

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Speaker 1: So and I love Steph. Everybody loves Steph. But when

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Speaker 1: you remember when Belichick was dominating, it was about do

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Speaker 1: your job whatever it takes, selfless. Yet ironically Belichick got

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Speaker 1: very selfish. I only want to coach certain players. He

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Speaker 1: was quoted as saying, Okay, now, it's about circumstances. So

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Speaker 1: you're not looking for the best players in New England.

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Speaker 1: You're looking for the players that you like. You're just

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Speaker 1: a circumstantial franchise, of which there's a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: That's sadly what the Warriors have become. If you're not

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Speaker 1: going to trade Steph, and I don't think that's the

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Speaker 1: only answer, But they run a very very unique offense,

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Speaker 1: and they won't move Draymond either, though I do think

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Speaker 1: if press they would. But look how old this team is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking this morning at the ages. Steph's

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Speaker 1: thirty seven gonna be thirty eight soon, Draymond's thirty five

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Speaker 1: gonna be thirty six soon, and Butler is thirty six.

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Speaker 3: You can't compete in the West with that.

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Speaker 1: So but the reality is Butler and Draymon are really

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Speaker 1: high IQ basketball players, and they can play with Steph.

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Speaker 1: Kaminga's right now longer, more athletic, he's got more juice

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Speaker 1: and energy not playing because he doesn't fit into the

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Speaker 1: ecosystem of Steph Curry, who everybody loves, myself included. But

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Speaker 1: I see this all the time whenever you be hime

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Speaker 1: a franchise where you have this. We can't do this,

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Speaker 1: we won't do this. Okay, you're out of the running

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Speaker 1: for titles. You're out of the running. You're not a

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Speaker 1: championship team. You have a cool resume, you have great

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Speaker 1: merch you've got memories. But Belichick moved out of whatever

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Speaker 1: it takes to win to I'm only coaching certain players

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Speaker 1: and certain kinds of personalities. All right, then you're just

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Speaker 1: a guy, You're a jag, You're just a guy. You're

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Speaker 1: just a coach, just an average coach. So sports evolves,

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Speaker 1: you better evolve with it. In fact, in the NBA now,

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Speaker 1: the two words they always use the key to the

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Speaker 1: NBA is versatility and optionality. The Warriors word is singularity.

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Speaker 1: All about Steph.

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Speaker 3: Here is Steve Kerr on the email that was leaked.

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Speaker 12: Well, we're all frustrated, you know, Joe is frustrated, un frustrated, Steph, Andrea,

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Speaker 12: everybody's frustrated.

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Speaker 3: And this is, you know, kind of how the league works.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 12: I hate when people are going to post private emails

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Speaker 12: like I mean, imagine if everyone's emails were just publicly

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Speaker 12: posted out. How tough that would be to live our lives.

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: I saw this story Kevin Stefanski apparently and the Browns

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Speaker 1: divorce with Kevin Stefanski. The headline says is looming. What

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Speaker 1: can we learn from this latest disaster?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: For years and years there has been a belief. I

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Speaker 1: think it's totally outdated that the worst NFL job is

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Speaker 1: better than the best college job. I think that's totally outdated.

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Speaker 1: Here's the options Kevin Stefanski could have if he's fired

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Speaker 1: New York Giants, Tennessee, Arizona, potentially, Vegas, potentially in Atlanta, potentially.

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Speaker 1: You don't think Ohio state is better than those jobs.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee a political mess behind the scenes. Arizona players rated

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Speaker 1: it the worst ownership group the Giants have been in

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Speaker 1: a decade long funk. The truth is, there are very

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Speaker 1: very few great job openings. The last three great and

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Speaker 1: I truly great job openings in the NFL. New England

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Speaker 1: you got Drake May on a rookie contract and Robert

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Speaker 1: Crafty owner, and Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 3: Was going to be your coordinator. That's a great job.

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh getting Justin Herbert in his prime, that's a great job.

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Speaker 1: And Matt Lafleur taking over for Mike McCarthy and getting

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers at or near his peak, those are great jobs.

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Speaker 1: Mostly it's dysfunctional owners increasingly impulsive. They're all billionaires. But

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Speaker 1: I mean I understood years ago. You know, the feeling

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Speaker 1: was just just take an NFL job. But if you

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Speaker 1: look at the top of the NFL current draft order,

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Speaker 1: you notice it's the same teams Giants, Raiders, Titans, Browns, Jets, Cardinals, Saints, Bengals.

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Speaker 3: You notice that you think these are great jobs.

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Speaker 1: You don't think Ohio State or Texas are better gigs

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Speaker 1: where I can control my personnel, don't have a crazy owner.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the NCAA is toothless. They don't know what's

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Speaker 1: going on. I can pay my players. So even if

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Speaker 1: I have a booster that's out of control, which sometimes

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Speaker 1: was always a problem at big school, some booster with

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Speaker 1: one hundred dollars handshakes, that's not illegal anymore.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I.

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Speaker 1: Here's Kevin Stefanski when asked about his job security this week.

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Speaker 13: I don't get into those type of things. Mary Kay,

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Speaker 13: I would just tell you my focus, our football team's

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Speaker 13: focus is solely on the Buffalo Bills and obviously watching

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Speaker 13: the tape today, that's our focus.

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Speaker 3: But that's all we really care about. Now.

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Speaker 1: You could argue Colin Sean Payton Denver was a great job.

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Speaker 3: No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. Sean Payton made it

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Speaker 3: a great job.

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Speaker 1: He inherited a nightmarish Russell Wilson dead cap situation and

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Speaker 1: draft capital that had been moved.

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton made that a great job. That was not

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Speaker 3: a great job.

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Speaker 1: Ninety percent of the people that could have taken that

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Speaker 1: job would have failed. Sean Payton's one of the smartest

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Speaker 1: coaches in fifty years. Well what about Ben Johnson? The

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Speaker 1: Bears wasn't a good job. The Bears is still viewed

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Speaker 1: as ownership, front office, a little dysfunctional. Ben Johnson similarly

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Speaker 1: made That makes that a great job. That's different than

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Speaker 1: a great job. I mean the Chargers with Herbert, you

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Speaker 1: were gonna win. They had all sorts of defensive talent,

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Speaker 1: they had their draft picks, they had the star quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That's a great job.

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Speaker 1: Vrabel I get Drake May, Robert Kraft, Josh McDaniels is

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Speaker 1: coming with me, and oh, by the way, I can

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Speaker 1: spend three hundred million in free agency. That is a

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Speaker 1: really good job in a division with the dysfunctional Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: dysfunctional Jets, and Buffalo average roster. So don't don't confuse

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Speaker 1: making a job a great job and a great job.

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Speaker 1: The minute you walk in the door Green Bay with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, I mean no chaos. I mean at that time,

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Speaker 1: you know, what were the Bears, what were the Lions? Vikings?

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Speaker 1: Good never special.

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Speaker 3: J Mack.

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Speaker 1: Here's the schedule this rate week. I will tell you

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Speaker 1: the best bet on the board is probably now Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: at Miami with Joe Burrow playing and Quinn. You are

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Speaker 1: starting in what I would call a very intelligent soft

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Speaker 1: tank by the Miami Dolphins. Anything jump out to you.

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Speaker 8: You like underdogs, right? Can you hold your nose and

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Speaker 8: take the brown the Browns at Hope.

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Speaker 7: Against the Bills. I think she Door could have a

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Speaker 7: chance to do well. I mean, I'm just talking about

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Speaker 7: getting ten points at home. That's a lot. I call

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Speaker 7: me crazy, but I like Tennessee. I do think the

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Speaker 7: Kansas City Chiefs are going to be mailing it in.

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Speaker 7: I don't think we see a max effort from Kelsey

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Speaker 7: or Jones mc collin. It's been forever since they've not

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Speaker 7: been in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you enough. So potentially Denver off a

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Speaker 1: wildly important win, has had a string of close games,

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Speaker 1: and here comes sleepy Jacksonville into town. Jacksonville is a

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Speaker 1: team that can run the football, creates turnovers. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a weird spot, like it's hard to

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Speaker 1: get your locker room jazzed up for the Jags off

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Speaker 1: a packer win. Keep your eye on the Jags upsetting

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos.