WEBVTT - The Lockdown Rebellion Grows

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<v Speaker 1>You are entering the freedom hunt. The lockdown rebellion grows.

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<v Speaker 1>California has a stay at home order for possibly three

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<v Speaker 1>more months. Bailing out the bailouts a judge who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to want to let Flynn go, and was Intel

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<v Speaker 1>suppressed that Russia really wanted Hillary to win? Coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the buck Sexton Show, where the mission or

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<v Speaker 1>mission is to decode what really matters with passionable intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>Make no mistake a great here, a great American Again

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<v Speaker 1>the buck Sexton Show begins. He's a great guy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, everybody, welcome to the buck Sexton Show. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for joining today. May or may we

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<v Speaker 1>have much to get to. The big shift that we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing right now is away from the data, the day

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<v Speaker 1>of the data, testing, test and testing. Well, they still

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that, but they're now increasingly just pushing for

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<v Speaker 1>what are obviously political goals in this whole process. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell because they're going on offense against people

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<v Speaker 1>who want the country to reopen. Doesn't everybody want the

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<v Speaker 1>country to reopen. The only reason that you'd be rooting

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<v Speaker 1>against reopen is political. There's no honest person out there

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<v Speaker 1>who thinks that this is a good situation for the

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<v Speaker 1>American people, that this is a sustainable situation, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>they keep wanting to drag it out. They keep wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to drag it out. Doctor Faucci in the testimony yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I read through the transcripts of it. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>time to sit there and watch Senator's grandstand, but the

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<v Speaker 1>transcript of it was worthwhile. Doctor Fauci admits that the

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<v Speaker 1>second that you start to reopen, there will be more

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<v Speaker 1>infections that occur, and there will be more depths that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we are facing now. It's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be overwhelming. I don't think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>this massive second wave that people have been talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>But we got to be able to have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>as adults in this country about what the future looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead what you get from places like CNN, which I

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<v Speaker 1>really have been thinking about this. I believe the country

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<v Speaker 1>would be better off, happier, and better informed if CNN

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<v Speaker 1>just became a DIY network that actually requires some skill.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say cooking network that also a

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<v Speaker 1>network that also requires skill. You know, if CNN, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, like rand music videos from the nineties or something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, There's just there's nothing that you get that's

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<v Speaker 1>a benefit from this channel even existing, and the DNC

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<v Speaker 1>has plenty of other propaganda networks. Nobody would miss it

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<v Speaker 1>except for the people drawing a paycheck from CNN. But

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<v Speaker 1>they have lots of other options, unlike conservatives. There are

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of media outlets for them. But here's what you get.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what you get from for example, Bro Cuomo, who

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<v Speaker 1>is like, Hey, I'm in quarantine for a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was still lifting bro still working up a sweat. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>but didn't you break quarantine? Oh that's right, you did,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got into a fight with a strangers likes

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<v Speaker 1>to get into fights with strangers. What a buffoon him

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<v Speaker 1>and his brother, both the buffoon brothers really, or the

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<v Speaker 1>Bro's Cuomo as we call them. But here's what passes

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<v Speaker 1>for discourse. Now you've got a national cable news show,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can expect people to say really horrible stuff

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<v Speaker 1>about anybody who wants to reopen. If you are sick

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<v Speaker 1>of being locked in your home, if you're tired of

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<v Speaker 1>this of dubious constitutionality, lockdown order of dubious scientific basis

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<v Speaker 1>as well, Oh it's because you don't care about old people,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're racist. That's the new that's the new addition

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<v Speaker 1>to this play clip four. It's an interesting juxtaposition, Sanja,

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<v Speaker 1>that the president thing is about being anti elitist. His

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<v Speaker 1>buddy's over on Fox State TV anti elitist. Ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>deaths are the price tag that their model puts on

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<v Speaker 1>this talk about being elitist. If that's okay, who do

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<v Speaker 1>you think those ten thousand people are going to be?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's getting affected the most? The working class, the brown

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<v Speaker 1>working class who's most afraid of reopening too soon, the

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<v Speaker 1>brown working class who's getting sick the most, the brown

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<v Speaker 1>working class who's dying the most. They are is nothing

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<v Speaker 1>elitist about that. It's everything that's elitist. Do any of

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<v Speaker 1>you believe for one second that bro Cuomo, who because

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<v Speaker 1>of his last name, got into certain academic institutions that

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<v Speaker 1>he never would have otherwise, and because of his last name,

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<v Speaker 1>has a job at CNN as a news anchor where

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<v Speaker 1>he's entirely replaceable and deeply unimpressive. Do any of you

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<v Speaker 1>think that he really cares about, as he calls it,

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<v Speaker 1>the quote brown working class. This is a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>shuttles between a multimillion dollar apartment in New York City

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<v Speaker 1>and a house in the Hampton's which, for those who

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, is the fancy vacation destination within a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of hours of New York City out on Long Island.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I really asked this question in earnest. Are

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<v Speaker 1>we supposed to believe that, all of a sudden that

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Cuomo cares so much more than everybody else about

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<v Speaker 1>the minority working class and that's why he doesn't like

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<v Speaker 1>the administration's plan for reopen, which the Administration's plan for

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<v Speaker 1>reopen has been approved by and signed off on by

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<v Speaker 1>the public health experts that are I think, having far

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<v Speaker 1>too much influence in this whole process. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>where it all goes. You're going to see a series

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<v Speaker 1>of emotional and moral blackmails occur in the weeks ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>in the days ahead. It's already happening. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>what the argument's going to turn into. It was you

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<v Speaker 1>want old people to die, and now it's you want

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<v Speaker 1>old people and minorities to die. If you believe that

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<v Speaker 1>a disease that has a ninety nine point nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>survivability rate for everybody under the age of seventy if

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<v Speaker 1>you believe that that is the case, that we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>shut down the whole country. You don't care about old people,

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<v Speaker 1>And now that they're saying, you don't care about minorities.

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<v Speaker 1>As we know, the disease does not discriminate between minorities

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<v Speaker 1>and anybody else. It's a virus. It affects human beings.

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<v Speaker 1>But because of demographic distribution in play, particularly in New

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<v Speaker 1>York City, and the density and the public transportation system

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<v Speaker 1>and a few other factors add it in here. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it has had a disproportionate impact on people who live

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<v Speaker 1>in some parts of the city that are largely minority,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also infecting people all across the country, and

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<v Speaker 1>people of all backgrounds that ethnicities are getting this and

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<v Speaker 1>dying from it. Interestingly enough, I was surprised to see

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers because I think that there was an anticipation

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<v Speaker 1>that we had been thinking that one they were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be it was gonna be a lot higher overall, But

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<v Speaker 1>smokers don't seem to be at as high of a

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<v Speaker 1>risk for this. In the early day, smokers were, I

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<v Speaker 1>know some. I talked a few about it, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were terrified. It turns out that smokers aren't really as

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<v Speaker 1>high riskless. But but regardless, the moral, the moral blackmail

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<v Speaker 1>attempt here should be met with, first of all, the

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<v Speaker 1>disdain that it deserves. I mean, Chris Cuomo is being

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<v Speaker 1>and this whole thing is disingenuous. What does he want

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<v Speaker 1>us to do. We're just gonna stay locked down forever.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna allow the economy. It's the damage that is

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<v Speaker 1>happening now economically. You won't really even be able to

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<v Speaker 1>understand it for months to come, and it might even

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<v Speaker 1>be years before we're able to see the full and

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<v Speaker 1>long term impact of it, as well as the immediate

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<v Speaker 1>damage of thirty million people unemployed of businesses that we

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<v Speaker 1>keep thinking we're gonna come back, We're gonna we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hit our stride, will be something close to previous capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not true. That's not true for the two reasons

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<v Speaker 1>of the regulations and the restrictions that are being put

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<v Speaker 1>on these businesses. It's also not true because there will

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<v Speaker 1>be there'll be much less demand. And then there are

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<v Speaker 1>whole industries that I think are at risk. There's an

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<v Speaker 1>expectation right now that the airline industry might might end

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<v Speaker 1>up having to lay off one hundred thousand people this fall.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we do, I mean, how do we get

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<v Speaker 1>our airline industry back before there's a vaccine? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to start to see entire business sectors that

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<v Speaker 1>are effectively collapsing. This is why we have bailouts of

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<v Speaker 1>bailouts already, and bailouts of state governments and bailout of

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<v Speaker 1>local governments, and you're gonna have bailouts of more companies

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<v Speaker 1>and individuals. Now, the individuals aren't really getting a bailout.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a rescue, and it's a rescue in response to

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<v Speaker 1>a government policy. But that all said, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the money for this, So we can be honest about

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<v Speaker 1>this and understand that this is not a solution, and

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<v Speaker 1>no public health expert will go on TV and say

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<v Speaker 1>it is to just keep our heads down, stay at

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<v Speaker 1>home home. You know, I think it's so fascinating too.

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<v Speaker 1>For all of Chris Cuomo's bluster here about the about

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<v Speaker 1>as he calls it, the brown working class, who does

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<v Speaker 1>he think a lot of the frontline workers are. Who

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<v Speaker 1>does he think a lot of the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>still delivering food, who are still working for ups and

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<v Speaker 1>for the postal service and working in grocery stores and

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<v Speaker 1>working in pharmacies. There's a considerable contingent. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the percentages are, but plenty of them

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<v Speaker 1>are minorities, and they're still risking their lives every day.

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<v Speaker 1>If you believe that being outside and conducting any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of business is risking your life, which is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>all being told. You know, it's always risking your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Right you leave your house, and I've said this to

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<v Speaker 1>you before. I'm always reminded of the line from the

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<v Speaker 1>movie Heat with Appuccino where he says, you get killed

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<v Speaker 1>walking your doggie, which is true, you can, and I

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<v Speaker 1>walk the dogs several times a day, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it is possible to get killed walking your doggie.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we didn't know. And for anyone who's wondering, well, back,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you okay with a two week shutdown? And

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<v Speaker 1>why were you Because we were being told that this

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<v Speaker 1>had a three or four percent mortality rate, that it

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<v Speaker 1>could kill anybody at any age with equal at equal

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<v Speaker 1>risk effectively or close to it. You know, we thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was going to be a much more lethal which

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<v Speaker 1>is I know right now with eighty thousand dead, how

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<v Speaker 1>could you be talking about it being much more lethal.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's where we were led to believe by all

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<v Speaker 1>the scientists. I mean, I don't. I wasn't conducting field

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<v Speaker 1>trials and data and looking at what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the hospitals in Lombardi or in Wuhan. We were

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<v Speaker 1>told that this was going to be orders of magnitude

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<v Speaker 1>worse than it was in terms of death. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that scenario, we're going to have to take a

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<v Speaker 1>pause here and see what's going on. But now we

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<v Speaker 1>have the numbers, now we have the data, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can live through this. But you're seeing the game the

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<v Speaker 1>left is going to play now, and this is for

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<v Speaker 1>political purposes because they're not so stupid, well at least

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<v Speaker 1>most of them. Some of them are so stupid, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're not so stupid in general that they really think

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<v Speaker 1>that you can just stay in lockdown indefinitely. There. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they're they're that dumb. Some of them maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but most of them aren't. What you're seeing is using

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<v Speaker 1>this as a moment to pretend that they care so

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<v Speaker 1>much more about life and therefore they're the good people,

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<v Speaker 1>the better people, when also at the end of this

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<v Speaker 1>they view an enormous benefit to a continued Now, when

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<v Speaker 1>I say continued shutdown, maybe it's a series of shutdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's keeping us all in phase one or phase

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<v Speaker 1>two of the reopened. They want this to go as

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<v Speaker 1>slowly as possible before the election because they want Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump to lose reelection. That is a major motivation for

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<v Speaker 1>them at this point. The left, the Democrats, that is

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the list. Let stop the list.

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<v Speaker 1>They also never even grapple with what the projections are

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<v Speaker 1>for global fatalities, because the truly poor around the world

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be horrifically, horrifically damaged. Many will lose

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<v Speaker 1>their lives as a result of this decision of the

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<v Speaker 1>economic shutdown. I'm also going to need people to explain

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<v Speaker 1>who do we blame? As I told you yesterday and

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking to doctor Scott Atlas here about it,

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<v Speaker 1>who do we blame when we start seeing in three,

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<v Speaker 1>four or five months, just how many people have terminal

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<v Speaker 1>cancer that was allowed to grow and continue uncaught for

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<v Speaker 1>months because of the shutdown. How many who do we

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<v Speaker 1>turn to and yell at when we find out that

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<v Speaker 1>people who stopped chemo for a while now are in

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<v Speaker 1>a much worse position and may lose their lives to

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<v Speaker 1>the disease because the chemo was stopped so that we

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<v Speaker 1>could fight all hands on deck against COVID, including in

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<v Speaker 1>places that barely had any cases across the country. Who

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<v Speaker 1>do we blame for that? Do we get to call

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<v Speaker 1>up the bros Cuomo? If you listen to the media,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to blame Governor Cuomo for decisions that

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<v Speaker 1>seem horrifically bad now in retrospect across the board and

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<v Speaker 1>a record that is appalling, appalling us. If he's in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of the health of New York State and has

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<v Speaker 1>all these agencies and has all these people that are

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<v Speaker 1>experts advising him, he did a god awful job, he

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<v Speaker 1>really did, but you won't hear that from the media.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where we're heading, my friends. It's just going to

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<v Speaker 1>turn into political trench warfare for the next few months.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to try to make this as slow as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and they will justify all the economic pain and destruction

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<v Speaker 1>of themselves with two things. Oh, we care so much

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<v Speaker 1>about them. We care so much more than Republicans about

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<v Speaker 1>the minority working class. That's what they'll say. And they'll

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<v Speaker 1>also say anything to defeat Trump is worth this price, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, anything to defeat Trump is acceptable over the

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<v Speaker 1>long run, because he's an existential threat. Who are democracy,

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<v Speaker 1>as they've been telling us for years. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be tough. The rebellion is going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to grow against the lockdown state by state and across

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<v Speaker 1>the country, and we all have to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of rebelling against it in our own ways. You're in

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<v Speaker 1>the Freedom Heart. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>When you wear a mask, you say I respect you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the mask says to everyone you walk past.

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<v Speaker 1>I respect you. I respect you, I respect your health,

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<v Speaker 1>I respect your privacy, I respect your space, I respect you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can do anything I want with myself. This is America.

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<v Speaker 1>But I respect you, and out of respect for you,

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<v Speaker 1>I wear this mask, and I respect the nurses and

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<v Speaker 1>the doctors. So I'm not going to infect anyone or

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<v Speaker 1>allow anyone else to be infected unnecessarily, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>cause more stress on the nurses and the doctors. This

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<v Speaker 1>mask says, I respect the essential workers. Notice how insidious

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<v Speaker 1>this construction, this construct of the mask wearing becomes. It's

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<v Speaker 1>no longer about an individual choice. It's not about your risk,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about all the people around you. This is all.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really just becoming a stand in for you.

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<v Speaker 1>No longer have any rights, you no longer have any

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<v Speaker 1>say in anything, because it's about saving the people around you. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>saving the people around you from a disease that over

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine percent of people will be fine from, but

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<v Speaker 1>because of that less than one percent risk. And there

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<v Speaker 1>by the way they're treating this now, if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a psurology test where you have antibodies, are

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<v Speaker 1>you still supposed to wear a mask, that's anti scientific.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're still supposed to wear a mask out in

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<v Speaker 1>the open air where there's effectively zero risk of transmission

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody, that's anti scientific. We have a data, we

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<v Speaker 1>have the studies on this. The evidence does not support

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<v Speaker 1>at least some of what the implications are here of

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<v Speaker 1>what starts to sound like mask fascism. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>better do this or else because everybody else, because the

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<v Speaker 1>collective needs it, they demand end it. Oh, don't even

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<v Speaker 1>get me started on the peer reviewed CDC published study

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<v Speaker 1>that said that masks in influenza season don't really do

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<v Speaker 1>all that much. I know, I know people you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a little bit of research this week back

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<v Speaker 1>into the Spanish flu of nineteen eighteen, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wrongly named in a sense, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where it came from. There are a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>different theories. We know that the Spanish press wrote about

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<v Speaker 1>it during the First World War because Spain was a

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<v Speaker 1>neutral country, so they didn't have true propaganda restrictions on

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<v Speaker 1>what their journalists were able to say. There were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of infections. In fact, there were battles that were

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<v Speaker 1>determined in part because there were so many people on

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<v Speaker 1>the front lines in World War One at different periods

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<v Speaker 1>who did have influenza, and so we're completely combat ineffective.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not helpful to go back really and read

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<v Speaker 1>about because that disease. There was a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that happened with that one that we're not seeing here.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the more notable ones is that it went

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<v Speaker 1>after people, particularly twenty to forty so people who were

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them who were parents of young children,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would think at a at a healthier stage

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<v Speaker 1>to fight off a disease, but no, that didn't end up.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't end up being the case at all. But

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<v Speaker 1>the government. This is why it's so notable. The government

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<v Speaker 1>failed at effectively every level in this and you just

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<v Speaker 1>had a rolling series of collapses of different healthcare initiatives.

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<v Speaker 1>You had politicians who made the wrong call. You know. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>what you take from the Spanish flu of nineteen eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>the history of it, You look at it and you say,

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<v Speaker 1>our public health experts and our government were effectively worthless.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the disease just ripped through all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't able to really there was like one exam

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<v Speaker 1>There are a couple of islands, you know, the South

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific where the okay, we don't live on a tiny

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<v Speaker 1>desert island in the South Pacific, or tropical island in

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<v Speaker 1>the South Pacific. So the real lesson you take from

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<v Speaker 1>it is that the government was coming up with all

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<v Speaker 1>these different things, and you know, they were setting up

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<v Speaker 1>these they were setting up different medical facilities and putting

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<v Speaker 1>out tribunes. First of all, they didn't have a real

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<v Speaker 1>treatment for it, so I don't even know what you know,

0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.439
<v Speaker 1>they were just giving people stuff to give them stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, at some level, the government's panic turns into

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<v Speaker 1>just more and more regulations, the same impulse to always

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<v Speaker 1>write more laws to deal with every problem. The government

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<v Speaker 1>has just laws upon laws. We're also being given all

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<v Speaker 1>of this advice from the government or what to do here,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've really shown us already a legacy of failure

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<v Speaker 1>in preventing and then combating this virus. Thanks for listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the bus sets and show podcasts. Remember to subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you

0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:47.639
<v Speaker 1>get your podcasts. Is anybody this is administration ever asked

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<v Speaker 1>you or any member that they take the foot off

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<v Speaker 1>the gas and try and find or any type of

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<v Speaker 1>counter measure. No, nothing at all. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>h as you know, have me right from the very beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>put off foot right on that accelerator in every aspect,

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<v Speaker 1>including the development of vaccines and therapeutics. And as I

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<v Speaker 1>described my opening statement, we actually started that in January,

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<v Speaker 1>literally days after virus was known and its sequence was published.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, I have never been followed by anyone to

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<v Speaker 1>pull back on the development of any countermeasure or any

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<v Speaker 1>basic and the research project that we've been involved in.

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<v Speaker 1>You won't hear much coverage of the more praise of

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<v Speaker 1>the parts of the testimony yesterday that were praiseworthy for

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<v Speaker 1>the administration or where they were saying, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration hasn't stood in the way of anything we've

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<v Speaker 1>tried to do. We've been hearing this montra of they

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<v Speaker 1>don't listen to the experts. They listen to the experts

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Unfortunately, experts have been wrong on a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of stuff. And this then makes me think

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<v Speaker 1>of where we are in with California. Yesterday, it broke

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<v Speaker 1>in the afternoon that California, according to its public health director,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Los Angeles, according to its public health director,

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<v Speaker 1>was saying that they were expecting to probably be on

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<v Speaker 1>lockdown for three more months in Los Angeles County. They've

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<v Speaker 1>had fifteen hundred deaths from this. You're gonna lock everybody down,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no more, no going out to shop and

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<v Speaker 1>live life. He can't go to restaurants, you can't go

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<v Speaker 1>to bars, you can't buy things in most stores for

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<v Speaker 1>three more months. I mean, are these people insane? This

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<v Speaker 1>is what the experts the public health because look, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no there's no down. First of all, they're getting a paycheck.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no downside for them to say, Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>let's keep keep locking down. They don't want to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the heat of people like Cuomo. Oh you don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about the working class and minorities. No, it's that's

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<v Speaker 1>not it at all. Actually, you know who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get hurt the worst by the destruction the US economy,

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<v Speaker 1>poor people and disproportionately poor minorities. That also will really

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<v Speaker 1>affect them, the health implications of the long term for

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<v Speaker 1>preventing people from doing any preventative medicine, from being able

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<v Speaker 1>to treat chronic conditions, and then also on top of

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<v Speaker 1>it all, all of the health effects of just being

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<v Speaker 1>effectively forced to be largely sedentary. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 1>people say, oh, you can get out of it, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's different, you know, and you can't see people, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't meet up, you can't go to classes where you

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<v Speaker 1>would you know, you work out, you can't go to

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<v Speaker 1>the gym. You drink more than you've been drinking before.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people are going to develop alcoholism, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are abusing drugs. Huge consequence is huge

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<v Speaker 1>cost to all of this. Los Angeles like, yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do this for ninety more days. I mean, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>there is mass non compliance. But the problem is now,

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<v Speaker 1>the closer we get to November, and now you have

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<v Speaker 1>to start seeing it this way, the closer they can

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<v Speaker 1>push it to know, the better off they know Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden's chances will be. And I know we shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about it or we shouldn't have to think about

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<v Speaker 1>it in those terms. I think Matthew McConaughey released some

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<v Speaker 1>let's not make this political ad nice idea of a

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<v Speaker 1>little too late, buddy, it's very political. They view this

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<v Speaker 1>as just how much runway can they take away from

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration to get things back on track and

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<v Speaker 1>to improve the economy. So the more they extend, See,

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<v Speaker 1>they are incentivized now to extend the lockdown to get

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<v Speaker 1>that as close to November as possible. I'm not really

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<v Speaker 1>all you have to do. I mean, if they can

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<v Speaker 1>keep us in a state of even semi lockdown until August,

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<v Speaker 1>they think they must know that the economy won't. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, the damage will be enormous, the damage gets

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<v Speaker 1>greater in time, but also the pull out of the ditch,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak, right, the removing ourselves from these these

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<v Speaker 1>difficult circumstances that will not be able to occur quickly

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<v Speaker 1>enough for people to give the administration any credit or

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<v Speaker 1>any any faith. And that's how you get a Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden presidency. You know, they're they're just gonna, you know,

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 1>take the little blankie off his shoulders and take the

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<v Speaker 1>little thermis of warm milk out of his hands and

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<v Speaker 1>trot him on up to the victory stage, yelling because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on, and we're all suppois, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, he's really got it. He's really going to

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<v Speaker 1>run the country great. But it's just a figurehead. It

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<v Speaker 1>just it's it's not about you have to remember this

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<v Speaker 1>because I know I like to point out what a

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:44.440
<v Speaker 1>horrible candidate he is, but it's all about the mythology

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:48.120
<v Speaker 1>they've created around him, the continuation of the Obama legacy.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not really about Joe Biden. For the left,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about all the people that then are in positions

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<v Speaker 1>of authority. It's about who Joe Biden appoints to be

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<v Speaker 1>head of HHS, who Joe Biden would put on the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Corps, who Joe Biden has running the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>Who That's what really matters to them, and we all

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<v Speaker 1>those people will just be the Democrat, the Democrat power

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and control echelon. You know, they're all already waiting in

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the wings. This is also why the Bernie Sanders thing,

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 1>they're like, ah, the people that really call the shots,

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:22.679
<v Speaker 1>they're saying, okay, well, Biden, we know, we'll do what

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:25.120
<v Speaker 1>we want him to do. I mean, he's effectively a

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 1>puppet of the left wing political apparatus in this country now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, of the Democrat establishment, which is the same thing.

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>The left and the Democrats are obviously synonymous. Now, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's something to remember as we go through this.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, you know, with California thinking they might extend

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<v Speaker 1>their lockdown ninety days, I think it is worth noting

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking, we're starting to see schools claim already

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not going to be reopened for the fall.

0:24:56.520 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Universities some universities have said they're going to be taking

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>teleclass only, so you know, virtual classes or teleclass or

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>whatever however you call it. People are really going to

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<v Speaker 1>be paying sixty thousand dollars a year to watch classes

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 1>on a computer and sit at home. I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, university's got so fat and happy in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the last thirty or forty years. It's just been

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<v Speaker 1>an it should have been outrageous, this arms race of

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the fake credentialing system that they all

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<v Speaker 1>have set up. There are too many schools for it

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<v Speaker 1>to even really matter anymore. All the schools are great,

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<v Speaker 1>and the elite schools bring in Bozo's by the truckload too,

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 1>for all kinds of reasons, whether it's rich mommy and daddy,

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<v Speaker 1>or social justice or athletics or whatever. Not. The whole

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<v Speaker 1>university system as the preparatory ground for the leadership of

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<v Speaker 1>the future, that's all garbage. Now. If you want to look,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you really need a you need a baseline

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<v Speaker 1>level of educational tools and skills which you can get

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<v Speaker 1>and people are finding out you can actually get it

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>at home. But you can also you get this by

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<v Speaker 1>the time you're you know, if you're in a pretty

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>rigorous program midway through high school probably and then after

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 1>that just self directed study, apprenticeship, hands on learning, working

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<v Speaker 1>at different things and jobs. That's going to become much

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that's going to become much more important. Sitting in a

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<v Speaker 1>lecture hall and writing two completely monotonous research papers a

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<v Speaker 1>semester and doing this over and over again for a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of different classes. This is not No one

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>is impressed by, you know, someone's psyche degree from Oberlin,

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 1>no one. No one cares anymore if they ever did.

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's going to be a change that comes out

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<v Speaker 1>of all of this, I think. I know, I always

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<v Speaker 1>pick on Overlin down. There are some schools that get

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<v Speaker 1>picked out a lot. Oberlin's definitely one of them. Brown

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 1>University too, you know, yeah, an ivy without grades. That

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 1>sounds really rigorous, sounds like people are really working hard

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:58.160
<v Speaker 1>there and getting getting a great education. Sure, I digress.

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>So here's the other part of the opening school though.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where we get into the you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>focused in on this with testing because I can only

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>make so much noise. I can only tell so many people,

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean here, here's a perfect example. I mean,

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>this morning, I woke up and I just thought, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just so we're all clear here, we should be out

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>of lockdown. This is nuts. Just a reminder, that's what

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I tweeted up. I'm just gonna keep telling everybody this.

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 1>This is crazy. Now New York should in two days,

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>New York should allow a phase one reopening the metrics

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>were pretty close to it, but they're going to delay

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>another two weeks, and then if we're a little bit

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>behind the metrics they have, they might delay in another

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 1>two weeks. Well, we shouldn't burn a month because of

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>arbitrary metrics about leaving thirty percent of hospital beds open

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>for COVID patients when there's no way we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have that kind of a surge going to the summer

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>right now. It's not going to happen. You know, we haven't.

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>We learned our lesson from the terrible models that they

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>used and how far off they were. They were so

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<v Speaker 1>wrong on ventilators, they were so wrong on ICU beds,

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>wrong at all this stuff. But now we're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they keep getting the numbers wrong, the projections

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>about the numbers are wrong, and we say, well, hold

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>on a second. They say, oh, don't worry about that.

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:08.199
<v Speaker 1>That's water under the bridge. We see, yeah, But now

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>today you're saying, based on this new set of projections,

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>this is what we need to do right now. And

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>we look at this and go, well, hold on, don't

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 1>don't we get to you know, aren't we in the

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 1>trust tree and the nest can't we Nope, Nope, not allowed,

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>not allowed. You're supposed to listen or else listen or

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>else they don't want to hear it. So yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>CDC director Robert doctor Robert Redfield, who was talking about testing.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, I'm very focused in on this testing

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<v Speaker 1>part of it because there's it's really easy to say

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<v Speaker 1>and remember, government never will tell you we don't have

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>we we can't fix this for you. That the government

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>won't really accept that. That's just not in their mindset.

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 1>They think if they just have more control, they can

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<v Speaker 1>fix anything. If you give the government more power, it

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<v Speaker 1>is a belief of government that it will be able

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<v Speaker 1>to handle whatever the problem is. And this is an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous miscalculation of misconception. And really our entire system of

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>government is premised to prevent that creep, right, but we've

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<v Speaker 1>been losing that battle really for the last hundred years

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>or so now where the federal government's is getting larger

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and more powerful all the time, but the federal government

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>believes that it can fix the problem. Well, we'll hold on,

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>let me come back and we'll talk about testing. And yes,

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>there's all these numbers, but there are some things that

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>they're not telling you as they're telling you the numbers.

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Show podcast. All right, So what's the truth of testing?

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Mid Romney was there during the briefing yesterday to clarify

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<v Speaker 1>that when they said we've done more per capita testing.

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>The President said it, and it was also brought up

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:59.479
<v Speaker 1>by Admiral Jerwar during his testimony that we're doing more

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.479
<v Speaker 1>per capita asking that Romney's like, well, we weren't doing

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>more per capita testing at the beginning of this. Okay,

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>that's true, but that's not what they said. Thanks to Mit.

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Always good to have Mit Romney way and tell us that,

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's he's on no one's team. He's on

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:15.479
<v Speaker 1>team Mit. And so that's the kind of loyalty you

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>wanted a public servant, a guy who only cares about himself. Oh,

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I know there are others. There are lots of others.

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>We could name them, but we don't have time for

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>that right now. So here's here's what they're saying about

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<v Speaker 1>testing and how essential it is. Play clip six. Rapid,

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<v Speaker 1>extensive and widely available timely testing is essential for reopening

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>America CDC's role in testing continues to support diagnosis and

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:46.959
<v Speaker 1>contact tracing, surveillance, and outbreak. Okay, testing is really important, right,

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Here's what they're not telling you. We're already We're already

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>at a point we have excess capacity for the testing

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>that we have in most states, meaning that people aren't

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>getting tested all the time. And for what they're envisioning,

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>they're looking at creating a capacity where you have tests

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that are so ubiquitous that they're all across the country

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>and people will constantly be getting them. You know, what's

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>going to have to happen. And they're not talking about

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>this yet, but I'm telling you this is the next

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>phase mandatory tests for all kinds of things. People aren't

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>just going to show up and get tested for coronavirus,

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna have to get tested to really know.

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 1>And they've the health experts have said this. You're gonna

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>have to get tested every every two weeks. You can

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>get tested and you're negative, and the next day you

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>get infected. So what is the expectation. They're talking about

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>doing fifty million tests a month by the fall, it's

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>one in six Americans getting tested. You know, over the

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>course of the month, getting tested in the fall. How

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>is this going to happen? Well, you look at the

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>South Korea model, which I've brought up with you in

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>other places, and there's a lot of you will get

0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, you have to get tested, You will be tested. Okay,

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>So we're going to trust the government that didn't see

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>this pandemic coming, that essentially closed the barn door after

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the horse has left with the spread of the virus.

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Now we're going to trust them to determine how often

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>we all get tested and what the ramifications of that

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>will be. My friends, this is this is a mess.

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>This is a mess, and it doesn't even have the

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>intended If you test, you know, fifty percent of the

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>US population, you know, in one month, there's still one

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty million people out there who could get

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>infected and could spread this disease to other people. So

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>what do we think that. Yeah, I'm not saying it's

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>not help, of course, testing as a role of course,

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>but we have let's just look at something that we

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>can all understand. We have testing right now for the flu.

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>And I brought this up i think yesterday on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got the flu a few years ago, and

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I took the test and they said, oh, yeah, you

0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>got full blown influenza. My friend, the whole thing it

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>was very there. Okay, I had been kind of sick

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>for about three or four days by the time I

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>went in, and I had been around I'm sure plenty

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>of people having no idea that I was sick even

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>before I had any symptoms. So what's the huge Okay,

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>so now I know that I've got the flu, which

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I pretty much knew anyway. Do you think that all

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>these asymptomatic people are going to be going in to

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<v Speaker 1>get tested? I mean the trace part of this too,

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:24.719
<v Speaker 1>This is where, oh my gosh, there's all this focus

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 1>on how we're not up to where we need to

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>be on the trace system memory. Yesterday we're talking to

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Atlas and what he said about how the tracing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh here you go. Here's Senator Doug Jones harping on

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>this one seven play it. Are you saying that you

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<v Speaker 1>think that the federal government and or state governments are

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<v Speaker 1>capable of doing the level of contact tracing that we

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>will need. They are capable? Are they capable at this

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>very moment? Absolutely not. We've got to get more money

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to him, we've got to figure out this plan. Doctor

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Redfield testified yesterday that he's with the states. I believe that.

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that the state, I know in my state,

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>they're looking at trying to ramp up all this. We

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 1>are not capable of doing that at this very moment,

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>but I think we've got the time, We've got the

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>opportunities to do that. We've got to get more money,

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>we've got to get a plan. Those plans are being developed,

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 1>but they need to put that urgency on those plans.

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I think by this summer, I think we can do that.

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, look, we've got the opportunities to learn from

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 1>these lessons. We've got to seize those opportunities. Or as

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>doctor Fauci said, there's going to be more needless suffering

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 1>and more needless deaths. There is absolutely no way that

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>this tracing army of one hundred thousand people that the

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>lockdown consensus is pushing for is going to be formed

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<v Speaker 1>in time. And even if it is, to think that

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be effective, I mean, you've got

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>to be kidding me. More than half the people, by

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of studies that have this are asymptomatic. So

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>you're going to have some government employee that comes and

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 1>visits with you and tells you you know, and you

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>to tell them everyone you've been around, everyone you've been near.

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:03.959
<v Speaker 1>Then they're going to go talk to all those people.

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Think about how I went through a federal background investigation,

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>which was a incredibly slow and grotesquely incompetent process that

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>involved countless useless man hours, and that was in the

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>just the elite echelon of trying to get a t

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>S clearance to go in to the CIA. You really

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 1>think this army of tracers is going to be efficient?

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:30.319
<v Speaker 1>What's their training? What do they know about anything? One

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand people, you're going to have TSA agents, so

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to speak, no offense TSA. I know some of you

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>love the show, and I appreciate you keep the plane safe,

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>but you're going to have people who are newly minted

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.760
<v Speaker 1>federal employees who are going to be showing up and saying,

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>guess what, you have to stay home for two weeks,

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 1>and so does everyone your family, and so do all

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>your coworkers under pain of fine. Oh yeah, that won't

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:54.720
<v Speaker 1>be a problem. Folks. Thanks for listening to the Bus

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 1>Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. It has

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 1>become an article of faith that the Russians wanted Donald

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Trump to win the twenty sixteen election based upon an

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 1>intelligence community assessment from years ago. What if that wasn't true.

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<v Speaker 1>What if, in fact, there was contrary intelligence and it

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>was suppressed. That's a bombshell, and it's one that has

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 1>been raised by a man who knows what the heck

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about. What it comes to all this, Fred Flights.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the president for the Center for Security Policy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a former National Security Council Chief of Staff and

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<v Speaker 1>CIA analyst. Fred. Great to have you back, Hey, Bud,

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<v Speaker 1>good to be here. All right, start with this. You

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 1>wrote an article on I think it was Fox news

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<v Speaker 1>dot com where you raise the possibility or you raise

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<v Speaker 1>that your belief that John Brennan, when he was CI

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<v Speaker 1>director may have done what when it comes to the

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Russian narrative, But it was a very strange intelligence community

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<v Speaker 1>assessment that came out in early twenty seventeen that said

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<v Speaker 1>the Russians meddled in the twenty seventeen election and did

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<v Speaker 1>so to help Trump win. This is a very strange assessment.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't follow the rules. Only three agencies were involved,

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<v Speaker 1>Only half a dozen analysts of those agencies were involved.

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>And you and I know that when you do these assessments,

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>you're bringing all the experts and you extensively vetted. But

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>this one was rushed through. They didn't follow the rules.

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>There were no dissents. It was just strange. And I've

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>been talking about that for a long time. Well, I

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>learned in the summer of twenty eighteen that there was

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>a House Intelligence Community report that found that this assessment

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>was rigged in that there was intelligence that the Russians

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted Hillary Clinton to win that John Brennan suppressed over

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the objections to CI analysts, and instead very weak intelligence

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:57.320
<v Speaker 1>that didn't meet CIA standards was included that the Russians

0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>wanted Trump to win. Brennan had that included, also over

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the objections of CI analysts. I think this goes to

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the larger narrative that there was really an all government

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>effort by the Obama administration to destroy Donald Trump during

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the campaign, during the transition, and to destroy his presidency

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 1>by weaponizing intelligence. This was just a piece of that.

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's just put on our CIA hats for

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>a second here, Fred, and think about if you're Vladimir

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Putin Hillary Clinton. The Democrats traditionally have been very malleable,

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>very willing to play ball, did not view. I mean,

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>you look at what Obama said tomit Romney about how

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty call they want their foreign policy back, did

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:46.360
<v Speaker 1>not view. Russia only became a problem two Democrats after

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Hillary lost the election. So if we just were to

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>work backwards here, we'd say, hold on, why would it

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 1>be so clear that Putin would want Trump to win?

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>You would only believe that if you also believed all

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of the now entirely discredited nonsense, including you know, the

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Pea tape and the dossier and all this craziness which

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>we now know was totally fabricated. If you were working

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 1>backwards and you look at this from a more reasonable

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>perspective on foreign policy, there's at least an argument that

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.720
<v Speaker 1>you would think that Vladimir Putin would have wanted Hillary

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to win. So why wouldn't anyone come to that conclusion?

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I think in the intelligence communities is an interesting question

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>in and of itself. Well, the president's critics have tried

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>to said, well, the Russians didn't like Hillary Clinton. I

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 1>think that's true, but they walked all over her, and

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 1>they walked all over Barack Obama and the House and

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:37.879
<v Speaker 1>tells the Comunity staffers said they wanted her to win

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 1>because she was a known quantity, and they didn't want

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump to win, accorded to the same staffers, because

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>he was an unknown quantity and they were worried he

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 1>was going to bring anti Russian hawks into his administration.

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 1>So it's possible for the Russians not to like Hillary.

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>But still they wanted her to win because they knew

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>they could walk all over just like they did when

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 1>she was Second of State. Now, Fred, we're speaking of

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Fred Flights. He's the president for the Center for Security Policy,

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>former NSC, former CIA. Talk to me about the Obama administration.

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry the Obama himself role in what we've seen here,

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>given given this meeting that happened in January and the

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 1>request to be kept in the loop about everything going on,

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and then the Susan Rice memo saying written to herself

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 1>on her last I think her last hours in her role,

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 1>send herself an email saying, oh, we want to make

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>sure everything's by the book, why should we believe? Why

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>should we believe that Barack Obama was not personally involved

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 1>in the targeting of General Flynn? For example, given what

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>we know well, Susan Rice wrote an email to herself

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 1>about a January fifth meeting that she had the President

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Obama and Clapper was in there, and Komey and Sally said.

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:57.839
<v Speaker 1>During the meeting, Obama said, do we have to turn

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 1>over everything to the income Trump administration on Russia? This

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>was really an appalling thing for a president to say,

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>because there's a very important principle of our country called

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a peaceful transfer of power. The outgoing administration fully cooperates

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 1>with the incoming one. They turn over the keys of

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the officers. They tell them about foreign policy initiations that

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 1>they're launched in, they tell them about intelligence has been collected.

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 1>The idea that the outgoing administration wanted to with not

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:30.320
<v Speaker 1>just withhold intelligence that they had collected, but to task

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>career officers like Komey and Saliates to continue to investigate

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and his staff after the left office. It

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 1>is such an appalling violation of this important principle of

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>our country. This is what distinguishes us for ten pot dictatorships.

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 1>When the election is over, the losing party submits to

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the will of the American people and cooperates and wishes

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:59.799
<v Speaker 1>the next administration well Instead. Barack Obama clearly, by that

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 1>question in that January fifth meeting, directed his staff to

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:08.280
<v Speaker 1>withhold information and to continue to undermine Trump even after

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 1>inauguration day. Now there's the unmasking controversy that has gotten

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more attention, in part because there have

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 1>been these reports that the Acting Director of National Intelligence,

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Richard Grinnell, has been saying, Look, I'm going to release

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>a list of the senior administration officials now and just

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>to review for everybody. I think this audience knows as

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 1>quite well. But unmasking refers to getting information about what

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>had been covered up US personnel names, essentially in surveillance intercepts.

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:45.360
<v Speaker 1>You unmask him, it means, well, instead of US person

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 1>number one, it's Fred Flights, right, instead of US person

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>number two, it's Buck Sexton, and they can find out

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>who the person is having in the conversation. That's a

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>very sensitive tool to use because you're talking now about

0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>surveillance on American citizens. Fred Oh, Where does this unmasking

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>issue stand what's Grinnell's position and why does it seem

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>like it's been held up. I'm not sure why it's

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>been held up, but it's an important principle that in

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:16.399
<v Speaker 1>foreign intelligence reports, the names of Americans are redacted because

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>we're not supposed to collect against them. I've been involved

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 1>in unmasking. It's very unusual to have to be a

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:25.279
<v Speaker 1>very good reason to do it. Now. Democrats run around saying, oh,

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 1>it's done all the time. It's not done all the time.

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I was John Bolten's chief of staff for four years.

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 1>He made ten such requests. Deputy Secretary of Armatage in

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>four years made four, but Samantha Power, Obama's ambassador to

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the UN, made two hundred and sixty requests, most of

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.879
<v Speaker 1>them in late twenty sixteen. Buck, I don't understand why

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the ambassador to the UN would need so many requests,

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>reportedly of Trump campaign officials. I also don't understand why

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the names of these requesters hasn't been made public. It's

0:43:56.000 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>not sensitive. I want to know specifically who asked reports

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>massed Michael flot to be damasked, and what was the

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>reason that they did it. I think we need to

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 1>know that it's pretty clear it was an effort to

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.800
<v Speaker 1>destroy Flynn as part of their effort to destroy Donald Trump.

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>And on this and look at it for me, and

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 1>we're speaking to Fred Flights, the president for the Center

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:21.839
<v Speaker 1>for Security Policy x NSC and CIA Fred on this

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 1>issue of basic transparency. Are we going to get this

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 1>list of the maskers? And are the unmaskers rather? And

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what the number of requests was it It It

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>seems to me like this is executive branch information or

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>how can they stop us from knowing if we go

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.400
<v Speaker 1>through proper procedures. I mean, D and I Cornell seems

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to want to get it out there as of at

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 1>least yesterday I saw there's some kind of a hold up.

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:46.919
<v Speaker 1>Are you confident we're going to find out? Because yeah,

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>what you just said Semantha Power unm maaster, there's basically

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 1>zero reason for her to be doing this. I mean,

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, you and I have both seen a lot

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 1>of class wider reports. I remember when we would talk

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 1>about anything that would touch on us personnel. They're like,

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 1>if you abuse any of this and we find out

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 1>you messed around, you're out and you're going to leave

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 1>in handcuffs. And that was the attitude. But with these

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Obama administration officials, let's say, you know whatever, it's our power,

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>it's our prerogative. Are we going to find out? Well?

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:14.959
<v Speaker 1>I have not discussed this with mister Grenell. He sent

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the list of the requesters of the unmasking to the

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Justice Department. The Justice Department said, it's not an our

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>authority to demask them. Now, my understanding is Burnell has

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the highest authority to demask or to declass by information

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>aside from the President, that he can release it. I

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 1>wonder whether maybe Gurnell sent this to the Justice Department

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 1>so to make sure that his actual would not interfew

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 1>with John Dorham's investigation of misconduct around the election. But

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the president can demask, I mean, can reveal these names immediately,

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:52.839
<v Speaker 1>they're not classified. It's under his purview, or he can

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 1>direct Gronell to do it. There's there's there's no lawsuit,

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>there's no right of these people to withhold this information. Yes,

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and they should should be fine with it. I mean,

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 1>this is you know, the other problem here is there's

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 1>there's no reason to believe that the people that were

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>requesting these unmaskings, we're not askings, you know, we're asking

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 1>how many times and who were the officials who asked

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:17.799
<v Speaker 1>for the unmasking? That should be information. I mean you

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 1>just said, you know, Bolton asked for ten times. That

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't set up any red flags, right. But if we

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:24.960
<v Speaker 1>found out that Bolton, before a Democrat was about to

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 1>be president, and all of a sudden asked for you know,

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 1>three or four hundred unmaskings in the last weeks that

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>he was in the job, and there was an effort

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>to destroy a Democrat official who you know, then people

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 1>would want to know what's going on. So it seems

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty clear here that they're playing games. Are you just

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 1>before before we let you go, Fred, are you confident

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 1>in the look I've been very cynical about On the

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 1>one hand, I've been I've known how bad a lot

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 1>of the deep state as you have, too bad a

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of the deep state machinations have been, and the

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>lies about the dossier and all this other stuff, which

0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 1>we've now we've been proven right, So high five you

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:00.839
<v Speaker 1>and me and along with any others. But we've been

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 1>proven right. Okay. I've also said, don't expect any of

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>these people to go to prison or even face criminal charges.

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 1>So far, I've been right on that too. I don't

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>feel good saying that, but I've been right. Do you

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 1>think the Durham probe, if they've got the goods, would

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 1>actually put the cuffs on somebody like a Clapper, A Brennan, etc.

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Because I think the answers now. I'm sort of concerned

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 1>that will never happen. But I'm holding out hope that

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Michael Flynn will be able to sue for damages for

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>this prosecution to him, I think was completely groundless, manufactured

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 1>by multiple Obama officials. That that isn't full justice. But

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:44.959
<v Speaker 1>I think we'd all feel pretty good if he got

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 1>back his legal fees and some fees for the emotional

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.640
<v Speaker 1>damage to discress he was put through by this fraudulent investigation. Yeah,

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 1>he might be able to do a Bivens action, I

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 1>think is what is called against for civil rights violations

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:01.879
<v Speaker 1>from the federal government. Those are very tough to win.

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 1>So we'll have to see Fred Flights everybody, President of

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:07.399
<v Speaker 1>the Center for Security Policy, former NEC and CIA. Fred

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 1>always appreciate it. Man, come back soon. Thanks, You're in

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 1>the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast team.

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 1>If you recall last week, I said that we had

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 1>found out finally the truth of the ambush and the

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 1>effort to destroy General Flynn. Now here we are, and

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned to you that we got to see what

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the judge does because some of my savvier legal eagle

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:41.400
<v Speaker 1>friends and minds out there had had brought up to

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 1>me behind you know, behind closed doors or on various

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>communications that we had. You don't know until this judge

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 1>actually says, okay, we're done here. You know, the case

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 1>is dismissed, and we got a problem because Judge Sullivan,

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Judge emmetts Van has decided. This happened yesterday, and people

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>are stunned by this. I was not stunned, as you know.

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I was saying, Okay, we gotta wait to see what

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the judge does. You go back, you check the transcript

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>last week. I was like, we gotta see what this

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.760
<v Speaker 1>judge does. It's got can be a little crazy sometimes.

0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 1>And now he's allowing third parties to submit amicist curier briefs,

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:21.320
<v Speaker 1>friend of the court briefs to allow effectively to allow

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:25.320
<v Speaker 1>all these left wing interests and these groups that hate

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Flynn to you know, sound off on how awful he

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 1>is and how this is the wrong decision. What do

0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 1>third parties have? Who the heck? Who the blank cares

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:44.520
<v Speaker 1>what some other person thinks of the Department of Justice

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:48.840
<v Speaker 1>dropping the case against General Flynn. Why is that relevant?

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, now, the judge can do this. Obviously he

0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>is doing it. But what this shows us and know

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<v Speaker 1>usually this only happens in civil cases, and it's to

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<v Speaker 1>give buddy the opportunity. It's to give outside interests the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to have their voices heard in a trial that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe touches on, you know, issues that are sweeping and

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people have a stake in this

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<v Speaker 1>is This is not a good indicator, my friends. This

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<v Speaker 1>is looking like he's giving a voice to left wing

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 1>anti Flynn activists so that then he'll have backing for

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<v Speaker 1>when he says, yeah, I don't care that the deal

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<v Speaker 1>and he can do this. He can do this, Judge Sullivan.

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<v Speaker 1>He can say I don't care that the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Justice has said this case never should have been prosecuted

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<v Speaker 1>and we do not wish to continue its prosecution. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. He already Flynn, as we know, already pleaded

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<v Speaker 1>guilty because they stacked the deck. They essentially falsified evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Against him. They changed the FBI three zero two, and

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<v Speaker 1>now the judge could just say, Okay, guess what doj

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need you to prosecute this case anymore. I

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<v Speaker 1>already have a guilty defend didn't who has pleaded guilty,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to sentence him. And that means he's

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<v Speaker 1>the felony stays on his record, and you know, maybe

0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 1>he sends him to prison for a few weeks. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the judge could theoretically send m to prison all the

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<v Speaker 1>way up to the top of the guidelines, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think would be a couple of years. But if he

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<v Speaker 1>did that, and maybe you will if you did that,

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:21.320
<v Speaker 1>and then we I mean, we know this guy's completely

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<v Speaker 1>out of his mind. There was cooperation with between Flynn

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<v Speaker 1>and the Muller probe, so you would think that he

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<v Speaker 1>was facing zero jail time. This was an issue of

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<v Speaker 1>the man's honor, his integrity, getting back his reputation, the

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<v Speaker 1>financial and psychological damage done to him. These deep state judges.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you go into Washington, DC, you know the

0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 1>DC circuit. You got a bunch of Obama appointees. This

0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 1>guy's domn Obama pointee, but you got on a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of Obama appointees. You have a far left jury pool.

0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:55.279
<v Speaker 1>They've all been watching too much of the you know,

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:58.800
<v Speaker 1>the idiot show on MSNBC and CNN, especially on Russia

0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 1>collusion stuff, and there's no accountability. Really, so a judge,

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this judge, If this judge does do what

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<v Speaker 1>I think he may. In fact, do my friends think

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<v Speaker 1>about this, that we would have gotten to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where the evidence was so overwhelming of the entrapment and

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<v Speaker 1>the setup of the Trump National Security advisor General Flynn

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:21.239
<v Speaker 1>that the Department of Justice had a career officials say

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:24.960
<v Speaker 1>even after a guilty plea, we're sorry, we messed up.

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<v Speaker 1>We withdraw our case, and a deep state judge, activist

0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 1>judge decides that doesn't matter. He still he still thinks

0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:38.280
<v Speaker 1>that the person should go to prison or should be ruined.

0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Come on, this is this is absurd, But this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we are up against. Now you're seeing it. He

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<v Speaker 1>may force the president to pardon a in this It

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 1>would be a convicted you know, a convicted felon. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what he will be if the judge allows it to be.

0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 1>So that the judge's pronouncement is, you know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, and he will. He will force the President

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:05.359
<v Speaker 1>United States to pardon Flynn. You know what that does.

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Then the left turns around and says, ce justice was served.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only the president who had to bail him out,

0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:13.840
<v Speaker 1>one of his political cronies. They'll forget all about the

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:16.759
<v Speaker 1>new information. They'll forget all about the do we get

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Flynn a lie or do we just get him fired?

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<v Speaker 1>That's all you have to know here. The FBI never

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<v Speaker 1>has a motivation to set up a meeting with you

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:28.239
<v Speaker 1>so they can get you fired from your job. That's

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 1>not a criminal matter, that's not a criminal sanction. We

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:33.760
<v Speaker 1>don't want you to be in this position of authority anymore,

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.120
<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna try to mess you up. That's like

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 1>a high school prank, but conducted by the most powerful

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:42.000
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement agency in the country, dudes with guns who

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 1>can lock you up in prison and ruin your life.

0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:47.360
<v Speaker 1>This judge is going to allow that to happen, hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>we We don't know yet, but it's looking more and

0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:56.760
<v Speaker 1>more like, yeah, yeah, he thinks that's justice. Disgusting. Thanks

0:53:56.760 --> 0:54:00.080
<v Speaker 1>for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:03.760
<v Speaker 1>subscribe on Apple podcast. The iHeart radio app or wherever

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you get your podcasts. I wanted to talk for a

0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 1>moment about something that occurred on Sunday's edition of Meet

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:12.359
<v Speaker 1>the Press. During the program, we enter sound bite from

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<v Speaker 1>a CBS News interview with the Attorney General Bill Barr.

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<v Speaker 1>In the bite that we aired and commented on, mister

0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Barr was asked how he thinks the history of his

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<v Speaker 1>decision to end the prosecution of the former National Security

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<v Speaker 1>Advisor Michael Flynn will be ready. Mister Barr answered, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>history is written by the winner, so it largely depends

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<v Speaker 1>on who's writing the history and the full version of

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the interview and transcript. He went on to say, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think a fair history would say that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a good decision because it upheld the rule of law. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we did not edit that out. That was not our edit.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't include it because we only saw the shorter

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<v Speaker 1>of two clips at CBS did air. We should have

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<v Speaker 1>looked at both and checked for a full transcript, a

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:54.360
<v Speaker 1>mistake that I wish we hadn't made, and one that

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I hadn't made. The second part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General's answer would have put it in the proper

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:00.800
<v Speaker 1>context and had I seen that part of the interview,

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<v Speaker 1>I would not have framed the conversation the way I did,

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<v Speaker 1>and I obviously am very sorry for that mistake. We

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<v Speaker 1>strive to do better going forward. Chuck Todd with a

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<v Speaker 1>full on I was wrong, but like kind of it

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 1>was CBS's fault for putting out the shortened clip. But

0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 1>do we buy that one? And we have so many

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:22.880
<v Speaker 1>other things to talk about. With our buddy David Harsani,

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:25.839
<v Speaker 1>who joined us now from National Review, we'll also talk

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<v Speaker 1>about his latest excellent piece there David Chuck Todd saying, yeah, okay,

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.279
<v Speaker 1>we got this wrong, but you know, CBS put out

0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a short clip and we just went on that. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually, I actually don't think this was an error.

0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I think they just thought they'd get away with this

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:41.880
<v Speaker 1>because it's so egregious and so clear that there's just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, what do you think? Yeah, I tend

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<v Speaker 1>to think that he did that on purpose to make

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:49.360
<v Speaker 1>a point that was something that a lot of the

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:52.279
<v Speaker 1>media was talking about at the time. But you know,

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the problem here, I think is that there's never any

0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 1>consequence for this sort of thing. I'm saying, Chuck Todd

0:55:57.200 --> 0:56:00.360
<v Speaker 1>should be fired. But I mean, you know, in the

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 1>old days, you are a newspaper and you cut a

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<v Speaker 1>quote in a way to make someone seem like they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying something they're not, there would be some kind of

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:09.600
<v Speaker 1>consequence I think for it. Even today, I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times had a quote from Jared Kushner where

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<v Speaker 1>he says, you know, I'm you know that the elections

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<v Speaker 1>will be delayed. But when you look at the whole

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<v Speaker 1>quote later on, it actually says he says I am

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<v Speaker 1>not in charge of that, you know, which is an

0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 1>important part of the statement which was cut out. So

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 1>then you know Hillary's repeating it. It It becomes like embedded

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<v Speaker 1>in the conversation that we're having. Tons of people believe

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:36.320
<v Speaker 1>it and we just move on. Every time it happens

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<v Speaker 1>every week, at least once a week, where you have

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<v Speaker 1>someone mangling a quote, it's got to be on purpose

0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 1>because it always views in the same exact direction. It's

0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:47.959
<v Speaker 1>just as it's impossible that they're always getting things wrong

0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:49.960
<v Speaker 1>in the same direction all the time for a year

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<v Speaker 1>after year. It's it's not plausible. Now, we were just

0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:55.080
<v Speaker 1>talking before you came out about the judge Sullivan who

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:58.759
<v Speaker 1>looks like he's going to give the opportunity for amicus

0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:01.359
<v Speaker 1>briefs to be filed out. What's gone on here with

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the DOJ dropping charges against General Flynn. I was worried

0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:08.560
<v Speaker 1>about this last week. I brought it up on the

0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 1>show so the audience would be prepared for the possibility

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:13.040
<v Speaker 1>of something weird happening here. I didn't know how bad

0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:15.359
<v Speaker 1>it would get. There is the possibility that he still

0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:18.280
<v Speaker 1>sentences Flynn as if the DOJ it doesn't matter. I mean,

0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 1>he could. I've discussed this with a former DJ friend

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:25.360
<v Speaker 1>of mine. That is absolutely something that could go on here. Somehow,

0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:28.560
<v Speaker 1>it looks like people are just planning to move past

0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the targeting I mean on the left and the meeting

0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:34.560
<v Speaker 1>in particular, to move past the targeting of Flynn and

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:37.919
<v Speaker 1>the trove of new information that I think everyone would

0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>have to agree is really relevant about what happened here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you wrote a piece Obama Gate is not

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<v Speaker 1>a conspiracy theory there, and you say that there's more.

0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:48.600
<v Speaker 1>This is up on National Review right now. There's more

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 1>evidence for the targeting of Flynn and for Obama Gate,

0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:55.600
<v Speaker 1>meaning Obama being directly involved in this in some capacity,

0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 1>than there ever was for Russia collusion. But we're just

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the media just wants to move passes. I mean, Brian Stelter,

0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:03.800
<v Speaker 1>who's a joke in a clown, was saying that the

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:07.040
<v Speaker 1>right is obsessed with this story. Now it's so hard

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:10.720
<v Speaker 1>to even push back against what they're doing because it's gaslighting.

0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:13.919
<v Speaker 1>You know, they pretend that it's a conspiracy theory, even

0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:16.920
<v Speaker 1>though you ask them a slew of questions. There's a

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:20.960
<v Speaker 1>ton of evidence, a ton fies of a warrant applications

0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:24.400
<v Speaker 1>over ninety percent of them in this case had fraudulent

0:58:24.440 --> 0:58:28.200
<v Speaker 1>evidence and were riddled with errors errors, and you have,

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, tons of stuff that we're learning about Adam

0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Schiff and how he lied about having evidence of collusion

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and so on. I mean, there's so much, and they

0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:38.800
<v Speaker 1>never answer any of those specific questions. They just quickly

0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:41.520
<v Speaker 1>jumped to some you know, over the top comment the

0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Trump made, or you know, some exaggeration he made, and

0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:48.840
<v Speaker 1>then sort of revolve their argument around that and ignore

0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the massive evidence we have that something wrong had happened here.

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 1>So it's difficult to push back against it. But it

0:58:57.400 --> 0:59:01.080
<v Speaker 1>is not a conspiracy theory. Perhaps it's you know, perhaps

0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Obama and I mentioned this in my peace. You know,

0:59:03.320 --> 0:59:06.640
<v Speaker 1>people jumped all over. Perhaps there's no specific crime that

0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Obama you know, engaged in that we're going to prosecute

0:59:10.200 --> 0:59:13.040
<v Speaker 1>him for. I think you shouldn't think that. People shouldn't

0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 1>think that's going to happen. Clearly he knew what was

0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 1>going on, and clearly there are abuses of power here.

0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 1>And it matters because Joe Biden and a ton of

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the people involved in that are trying to take power back, right,

0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and they used that investigation to undermine the administration here.

0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:34.200
<v Speaker 1>It's an abuse of power. Yeah. And if you had

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<v Speaker 1>heard about a European country, for example, where during the

0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:41.080
<v Speaker 1>what's supposed to be the peaceful transition of power, you know,

0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:45.080
<v Speaker 1>if in the UK, one outgoing prime minister had had

0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:46.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, the head of m I six and m

0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I five in a room and said, hey, let's let's

0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:53.760
<v Speaker 1>pull all the phone calls and emails of the top

0:59:53.880 --> 0:59:56.800
<v Speaker 1>natural security advisor to the incoming prime minister and the

0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:58.760
<v Speaker 1>incoming government. Now they have a different system out of

0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:00.160
<v Speaker 1>the transition doesn't work. But you know, you know what

1:00:00.240 --> 1:00:02.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, we would all look on this with horror.

1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:04.680
<v Speaker 1>We would say, oh my gosh, what's going on in

1:00:04.720 --> 1:00:07.520
<v Speaker 1>that country. I mean, that's really scary stuff here we're

1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:10.840
<v Speaker 1>supposed to move past. You know, when you put it

1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:14.200
<v Speaker 1>in very basic terms, I think it's it's helpful. The

1:00:14.240 --> 1:00:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Obama administration elicitly spied on the Trump campaign, senior Trump officials.

1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:23.560
<v Speaker 1>They lied, they covered it up, and then they actually

1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:26.760
<v Speaker 1>used the lies to target people. That that is a fact.

1:00:26.800 --> 1:00:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Now that did happen. No one seems to care, though

1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:35.760
<v Speaker 1>on the left, its worst than that. They used concocted evidence,

1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:40.440
<v Speaker 1>paid for by the Democratic Party to launch this investigation.

1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:44.680
<v Speaker 1>They withheld contrary evidence in their warrants when their initial

1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:48.439
<v Speaker 1>warrants on people within the Trump War of it. They

1:00:48.480 --> 1:00:51.760
<v Speaker 1>then some of the agents said explicitly said that it

1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:54.920
<v Speaker 1>was an insurance policy in case he was elected. I mean,

1:00:54.920 --> 1:00:56.760
<v Speaker 1>there's tons of evidence. And let me just quickly say

1:00:56.800 --> 1:01:00.840
<v Speaker 1>this too. Everyone's always like, you know, they'll call something

1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:04.120
<v Speaker 1>a conspiracy theory because it's not plausible within their worldview,

1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Like Obama worked tan suit. That's the worst thing you

1:01:06.400 --> 1:01:09.800
<v Speaker 1>could possibly have done. Obama spied on the American people

1:01:10.040 --> 1:01:15.959
<v Speaker 1>and his his you know, Clapper light about it in Congress.

1:01:16.240 --> 1:01:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Brennan spied the Congress they spied on Iran deal, you

1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:24.400
<v Speaker 1>know opponents, They spied on AP journalists, they spied on

1:01:24.400 --> 1:01:28.200
<v Speaker 1>a Fox News journalists. They were they normalized and weaponized

1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:31.760
<v Speaker 1>spying for political reasons long before they did this. Why

1:01:31.760 --> 1:01:34.560
<v Speaker 1>does anyone believe that they wouldn't do this when they

1:01:34.600 --> 1:01:38.080
<v Speaker 1>were doing this kind of thing for years. Well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I look, I think a big part of it is

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<v Speaker 1>that they also knew that. And I mean one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest jokes of the mainstream media is that they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they would on some of these issues, they

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<v Speaker 1>would hold Obama accountable writing one kind of milk toast

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<v Speaker 1>editorial or having like fake Tapper over at t and

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<v Speaker 1>be like this raises troubling questions. That's what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>What a democrat essentially shreds the constitution. When Trump theoretically

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<v Speaker 1>could do something, they're calling it fascism and saying that

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<v Speaker 1>he should be kicked out of office through impeachment. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the I mean, journalists are saying this. That's the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's no accountability Trump had done or the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>at administration had done any of the things I just

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned in relation to spying, especially on journalists. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have melted down. It would it would be

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<v Speaker 1>never ending and rightfully, so you know that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing with the Biden sexual assault allegations.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that you're acting wrong, now you know how

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<v Speaker 1>you're covering these things. Maybe it's that you don't do

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<v Speaker 1>you don't cover the other people with the same tenacity,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't care. And that's the problem. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you a good example of why it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>David fromm who's you know, everyone knows David from is

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<v Speaker 1>He He says, this whole conspiracy theory about Obama Gaate

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter because no one is covering it and no

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<v Speaker 1>one cares. So you see, they can cover the Russia

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<v Speaker 1>collusion thing that turned out to be. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>hoax is too light a word for what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dangerous conspiracy to tried to undermine the transition

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<v Speaker 1>and the legitimacy of a presidency. But then when we

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<v Speaker 1>prove that it's it's, you know, this corrupt enterprise, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't care because no one pays attention. Well, no one

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<v Speaker 1>pays attention because you're not covering it. That's why no

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<v Speaker 1>one's paying attention. So the media matters and how they

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<v Speaker 1>cover things I think really matter. And this is a

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<v Speaker 1>good example of why we're speaking to David Harsani, Senior

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<v Speaker 1>International Review. He's got a great piece Obama Gate is

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<v Speaker 1>not a conspiracy theory up on National Review dot com. Now, David,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to transition to something that

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<v Speaker 1>i've I've sort of talked you about offline. I have

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<v Speaker 1>tried to be slow because I do think and I

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<v Speaker 1>was especially somebody here in New York and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got you know, relatives, they're in the high risk

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<v Speaker 1>age group. And you know, in the early weeks of this, well,

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<v Speaker 1>from the information we had, it looked like this was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be It looked like it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be nineteen eighteen in a sense with the with the

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish influenza, We're going to have a three to four

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<v Speaker 1>percent fatality rate, which people thought talk about fifty million

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<v Speaker 1>dead from the Spanish flu It was a five percent

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<v Speaker 1>fatality rate. Actually mean, that's what it was, and that

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<v Speaker 1>gets you to fifty million dead around the world at

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<v Speaker 1>that time when they had a much smaller population to

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<v Speaker 1>be much higher. Now it turns out it's much much

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<v Speaker 1>less than that, and so you would think that there'd

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<v Speaker 1>be a ratcheting down of concern and also an elevation

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<v Speaker 1>of the economic concerns. This is just a way of saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm now at the point where I think that most

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<v Speaker 1>of the opposition to reopen and to individual and economic

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<v Speaker 1>freedoms has become political. It's actually not fear based. Where

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<v Speaker 1>are you on the spectrum and what's changing your mind

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<v Speaker 1>one way or the other about this? Well, look when

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<v Speaker 1>you see folks writing pieces about how, you know, Republican

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<v Speaker 1>governors want to kill their population, but then they conveniently

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<v Speaker 1>leave out Colorado or places in California, you know, mayors,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, and just focus on Georgia or someplace,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some red place, And obviously they're just using this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for politics. And I think that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a hoax that this was coming and

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<v Speaker 1>people were legitimately scared, and they legitimately tried to close

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<v Speaker 1>down and flatten the curve and all that stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was legitimate. But I think since then a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of partisans believe that they need to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>economy closed until November to win the election. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, I think there are a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people like that. And because of how partisan everything is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't really have a debate about economic

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<v Speaker 1>trade offs and the trade offs and lives and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden if you you know, if one person

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<v Speaker 1>is dying, we can't open it up. It's such an

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<v Speaker 1>inane position to take that we don't take for any

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<v Speaker 1>other thing we do in life. It's like, I wonder, though,

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<v Speaker 1>like as you mentioned, individual freedom, like what number of

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<v Speaker 1>deaths allows and powers of governor to just buy fiat

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<v Speaker 1>make make decrees without government proper government channels. Because sixty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people dive the flu, I'm not saying this is

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<v Speaker 1>like the flu, but why wouldn't they be able to

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<v Speaker 1>save those lives as well in the same exact way.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, if there's twenty thousand dead, why why do

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<v Speaker 1>you want them to die? It's the argument doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too wide open. So um, here's my position is that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm against any kind of course of effort

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<v Speaker 1>by government to tell people how to act and to

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<v Speaker 1>limit their movement. I personally pretty much follow all the

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<v Speaker 1>roles because I'm kind of a coward. But um, for

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<v Speaker 1>other reasons as well. But I just don't see why

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<v Speaker 1>the Maryland governor where I live can tell me that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go shopping. So but see, here's here's here's

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<v Speaker 1>the point. And I appreciate that you admit that you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking you know, you're taking those personal precautions and so

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<v Speaker 1>you're not telling But you know, I think people that

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<v Speaker 1>are advocating and I would assume you're finding yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>this group too. It's that if you want to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to take individual precautions for yourself, No one's saying don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. What people like me are opposed to is

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<v Speaker 1>you know someone recently, I just saw this today on

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<v Speaker 1>social media. A couple of guys like got together, some

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<v Speaker 1>bikers got together to have some drinks somewhere or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty police cars show up and are like, you

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<v Speaker 1>better break or we're going to rescue because you're breaking

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<v Speaker 1>our COVID ordinance. That's a problem. I I mean not

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<v Speaker 1>to get too into it, but you know, I have

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<v Speaker 1>someone in my family as them, you know, compromise or

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<v Speaker 1>I want to keep them away from this or even

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<v Speaker 1>the flu or anything like that, you know, so I

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<v Speaker 1>do my best to do that. That's a personal decision.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a zero reason why the parks here are closed. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>There's zero reason why a beach should be closed. There's

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<v Speaker 1>zero reason why the government should be able to tell

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of bikers not to get together and have

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<v Speaker 1>a Beer's just know what constitution doesn't say except if

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<v Speaker 1>things are you know, some people are dying from a virus. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I take it serious. Yeah, well, ultimately, ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>I also view this as if the government can say

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<v Speaker 1>your actions could theoretically have a negative health consequence. Er

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when I mean your actions, you are normal

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<v Speaker 1>day to day actions, just you being a human being

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<v Speaker 1>who's going about your life, can have negative consequences for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else. And they can tell you that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't open your business. How far are we from

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<v Speaker 1>China where they say no, you cannot leave your home,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot leave, you cannot go outside, and if you do,

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<v Speaker 1>we will either find you or imprison you. Don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see how there's a where's the where's the check

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<v Speaker 1>on that authority? I don't see where it is. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they could declare that and some people say okay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think some people would say okay, But I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's also important to remember that in general, I stay

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<v Speaker 1>home despite the rules. You know that the governor telling

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<v Speaker 1>me I have to, I don't do it because of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think most Americans would act in ways that are responsible,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, considering the information they have, without government telling

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<v Speaker 1>them to do it. And I think that's what happened

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<v Speaker 1>initially in Florida and other places. People locked down because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they took it seriously. But as I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you've mentioned many times, you know, this was about flattening

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<v Speaker 1>the curve, and we've done that clearly, so I don't understand,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the argument changed while we've been locked down,

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<v Speaker 1>and we should be allowed to be upset by that

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<v Speaker 1>by them. We should be allowed to note that and say,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on a second. Yeah, the point was we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to overwhelm hospitals is a very decent point to make,

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<v Speaker 1>and New York really suffered and there was a potential

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<v Speaker 1>of that happening. But you have other places, your hospitals

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<v Speaker 1>going out of business, en firing people because no one's

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<v Speaker 1>showing up for the other ailments that they have. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a spike in in people calling suicide lines

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. There are other costs, but we're not

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to talk about those things, and that makes me

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<v Speaker 1>suspect that it's because there are underlying partisan reasons they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want us to talk about it. David Arsani, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>check them out at Nashville. I'm sorry, go ahead, David.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we're done. I don't want to team. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you got we got another minute. Go ahead. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna say, I mean, I think that people protesting

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that reflects well on American life and

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<v Speaker 1>Americans in general that they don't just meekly listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the state and you know, follow all those orders that

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<v Speaker 1>are you know, to me, seem unconstitutional in some sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, all right. David Arsani of Natural Review. David,

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<v Speaker 1>always great to see you man. Thanks for your time

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<v Speaker 1>any time. Thanks for having me. You're in the Freedom

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<v Speaker 1>High This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Just when

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<v Speaker 1>you thought CNN couldn't get any more ridiculous, they up

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<v Speaker 1>their game and get more horrible. It's amazing what they're

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<v Speaker 1>able to do. Really, It's like they sit around in

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<v Speaker 1>a room thinking, how can we be a bigger fake

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<v Speaker 1>news network and more awful in what we do? The

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<v Speaker 1>decisions we make the coverage we have. CNN has decided

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<v Speaker 1>that they are having an expert panel come together on coronavirus.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess who they're including in their expert panel. Seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>year old Greta Thunberg. That's right. Remember, how dare you

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<v Speaker 1>remember Greta Thunberg. She is an expert in nothing, she

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<v Speaker 1>is seventeen years old. But CNN, while they're lecturing everybody

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<v Speaker 1>about science and expertise all the time, CNN is putting

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<v Speaker 1>her on a televised panel of corona virus experts. These

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<v Speaker 1>CNN morons are beyond parody. They really are. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even think of a effective ways to mock them anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>They debase themselves so much more than I ever could.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have said, and the President has said as well,

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to take a pause here and take

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<v Speaker 1>a looking what we've done. See what's working, see what isn't,

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<v Speaker 1>and also begin to encourage the governors around the country

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<v Speaker 1>who have the decision making ability to begin to open

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<v Speaker 1>up the economy. Gotta stop spending money. That's a Mitch

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<v Speaker 1>Mcconnought's a cocaine Mitch way of saying, look, we got

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta take a breather here, guys. We can't just

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<v Speaker 1>be throwing trillions out Even the US federal government can't

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<v Speaker 1>just be thrown and trillions out the window like they're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, candy corns or M and M's or something. So,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, producer Mark, what are the best of

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<v Speaker 1>all eminem flavors that are out there? What is number one? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>That's tough. Um, definitely, I mean regular is the goat

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest of all time. I do like the caramel

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw some sort of fudge filled one recently

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<v Speaker 1>I discovered recently for the holidays, I discovered hazelnut Eminem's,

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<v Speaker 1>and let me tell you, they are fantastic. They weren't

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<v Speaker 1>as good as I wanted them to me. I still

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<v Speaker 1>like them. I wanted them to be filled with nutella. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they weren't. I find peanut Eminem's very disappointing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big peanut. Peanut, butter and butter, amazing peanut.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not worth it. It's not worth it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not into it, not having it. So Mitch McConnell saying,

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<v Speaker 1>no more M and m's for you, America, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least we got to stop throwing M and m's. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta stop doing this. We can't keep showering every problem

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<v Speaker 1>with money when our is working at a fraction of

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<v Speaker 1>its normal capacity. I mean, this would be bad to

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<v Speaker 1>be spending at this level even if the economy was

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<v Speaker 1>really good. But we're going way beyond, way beyond what

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<v Speaker 1>anybody thought would be possible. And you know, we've now

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<v Speaker 1>reached this point where it is deeply political. In this

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<v Speaker 1>new Pelosi, Pelosi's pushing for a oh well, here she's

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<v Speaker 1>telling us what she wants to do, which is to

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<v Speaker 1>transform America. This has going back to the Obama idea

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<v Speaker 1>and the progressive's idea for the last a hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just keep changing America as radically as you can

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<v Speaker 1>and do whatever you got to do to get the

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<v Speaker 1>power necessary for that process. Here's Pelosi is saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this COVID nineteen situation, it's an opportunity play

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<v Speaker 1>play nine. We must all take an extra moment to

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<v Speaker 1>understand the numbers who are seeing, which show the most

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming in our lifetimes. These numbers require action that we've

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<v Speaker 1>never had to take before. There are those who said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just pause. You have the families who are suffering,

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<v Speaker 1>though that hunger doesn't take a pause. The rent doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>take a pause, the bills don't take a pause. The

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<v Speaker 1>hartship of losing a job or tragically losing a loved

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<v Speaker 1>one doesn't take a pause. This is an historic challenge

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore momentous opportunity for us to meet the needs

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<v Speaker 1>of the American people to save their lives, their livelihoods

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<v Speaker 1>at our democracy. Let's understand this, friends, We are in

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<v Speaker 1>the early phase right now of what unless we stop,

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<v Speaker 1>it will be the most massive momentous expansion of government

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<v Speaker 1>at all levels that we have seen in this country

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<v Speaker 1>in a hundred years, and it may in fact be

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<v Speaker 1>the most massive expansion of the government that has ever happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly is the biggest expansion of the debt based

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<v Speaker 1>on numbers, and even if you were to even if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to look to control it, for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the value of the dollar then versus the value of

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<v Speaker 1>the dollar now still even if you were to adjust

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<v Speaker 1>it would be We've never seen anything like this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats. This is the biggest opportunity that they have

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<v Speaker 1>had in my lifetime to transform the American government into

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<v Speaker 1>being the mega state that they that they ideologically and

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<v Speaker 1>really emotionally and at some levels spiritually are attached to.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's happening right now, and we have to see

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<v Speaker 1>it for what it is, because otherwise we're just going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a position where we are engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>what you could call and the financial markets people are

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<v Speaker 1>for to repeat surprise. You're just gonna say, oh, wait

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<v Speaker 1>a second, you mean that one? You here we are

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<v Speaker 1>we were going forward and they're using this. We knew

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning, they said it was a crisis they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to use as an opportunity. And now they're

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<v Speaker 1>expanding the government and they're going to keep expanding government,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're doing all the things that we would have assumed,

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<v Speaker 1>if we had taken a step back, the left would

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<v Speaker 1>do in a moment like this. Yes, that is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what is happening right now. But it's hard to see

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<v Speaker 1>it in the moment because you want to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats can put aside their part is in wishless, their

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<v Speaker 1>part is in fantasy. Just while we're dealing with this problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to believe that that's happening, But it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>They are using this now for political purposes and their

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<v Speaker 1>primary motivation in the policies that they're pushing, because they've

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<v Speaker 1>bought into this false, this false narrative of if it

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<v Speaker 1>saves just one life, just like they do with gun control,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a recipe always for government absolutism. If my

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<v Speaker 1>policy can save just one life, it morally overrides any

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<v Speaker 1>objection you might have, any right you may have. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no outer limit to this, there's no boundary for this,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've established this. This is now the position. If

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<v Speaker 1>more people will die from COVID nineteen, and who knows

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<v Speaker 1>even over what horizon, I mean, maybe in the aggregate

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<v Speaker 1>more people we won't die if we were to just

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<v Speaker 1>open and just go about on normal lives. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to her immunity right now, guess what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>People are getting infected no matter what the government says

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<v Speaker 1>or does and it just changes the speed, but it

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<v Speaker 1>does not change the overall pool of the infected. If

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<v Speaker 1>in fact that's now I'm not saying that's true, but

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly it looks like that's He's still a lot of infection.

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<v Speaker 1>Three hundred thousand infections a day under lockdown. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>best guests they have right now. So every ten days,

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<v Speaker 1>another three million people will have been infected in this

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<v Speaker 1>country with COVID nineteen during lockdown. So what do we

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<v Speaker 1>think we're really accomplishing here. It's a political motivation, not

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<v Speaker 1>a health not an epidemiological motivation at its core. But

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<v Speaker 1>they use this premise, this false premise of if a

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<v Speaker 1>government policy can save just one life, you cannot object

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<v Speaker 1>to it, in order to shut down all opposition. This

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<v Speaker 1>is also why Pelosi is, she understands this, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's very hard to get through. It's very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to push them. You know, if people that are writing

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<v Speaker 1>into me on social media, oh, you want old people

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<v Speaker 1>to die, the horrible things, it's a it's a total lie.

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<v Speaker 1>These people are morons, but they're leftist, so they already

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<v Speaker 1>believe an ideology that is godless, hateful and stupid. They've already,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no escape from that as long as they

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<v Speaker 1>believe that ideology. That's what they think and that's who

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<v Speaker 1>they are. But they use this to shut down any

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<v Speaker 1>objection that we have to what they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can already see it. I mean, Pelosi's pushing

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<v Speaker 1>this three another three trillion dollars in spending. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what they want to do. They want to extend the

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<v Speaker 1>federal six hundred unemployment sweetener. Well, if they extend that

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty twenty one, which is what Pelosi's bill looks

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Right now that she's already unveiled this bill,

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<v Speaker 1>you have effectively achieved a stell fifteen dollar plus minimum wage.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, based on how much money people will be

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<v Speaker 1>making into twenty twenty one. You're not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>these workers back. And then Pelosi would just say, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we extend the employment benefits another six months and another

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<v Speaker 1>six months. And the only way you get people to

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<v Speaker 1>want to go off unemployment at that rate, given what

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<v Speaker 1>the state benefits will be, and the government keeps, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>refilling the coffer. Refilling the coffer is if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to offer somebody considerably more money. So now you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at it again. Fifteen dollars plus you might have small

1:19:14.760 --> 1:19:16.920
<v Speaker 1>business owners will be faced with you either pay a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty dollars minimum wage or people would rather be unemployment

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<v Speaker 1>into twenty twenty one. This is real, folks, This is

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<v Speaker 1>happening right now. This is what your government is doing

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<v Speaker 1>in your name. It's a disaster. We have to rest

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<v Speaker 1>control back. We knew. I knew, I said it to you,

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<v Speaker 1>you said it to me. We knew that they would

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<v Speaker 1>seize too much power and they would not relinquish it.

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<v Speaker 1>They would use the emergency to take the power into

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<v Speaker 1>their hands and then their greedy little fingers. The government

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<v Speaker 1>would not release the authority that they have just taken

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<v Speaker 1>it upon themselves to have in this crisis. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>it coming and we didn't stop it. Now we have

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<v Speaker 1>to push back, and it's going to be a fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Government likes power, doesn't like to give it up at

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<v Speaker 1>any level at any time. You're in the freedom hud.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Look, before the

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<v Speaker 1>Me Too movement, women were not listened to whom we're

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<v Speaker 1>telling what had happened to them. Since Me Too, women

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<v Speaker 1>are listened to. Now. I've heard Joe Biden's explanation. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's sufficient. I think he will be a great candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he will be a great president, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he'll take us to help us take back the Senate. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck schumerway's in here with Before the Me too movement,

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<v Speaker 1>women were not listened to. Now they are listened to.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, we've heard enough about this terror read person.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on. Oh man, he is he is always

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<v Speaker 1>so predictable, consistent, at least in his sliminess. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about where the terror read allegations currently stand, and

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<v Speaker 1>also the Biden candidacy overall and the politics of the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>For that, we are joined by our friend Tiana Lowe.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a commentary writer at The Washington Examiner and

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<v Speaker 1>also a contributor to The First on Pluto TV. Tina,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much, Hi back, thanks for having me so.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Schumer says, yeah, no, everyone's listened to now, but

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<v Speaker 1>tera read's been listened to, and he believes Joe Biden. Well, so,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we describe the standard now that Democrats are using?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a standard? They can they define what the

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<v Speaker 1>standard is? I mean, the only discernible standard, right, now

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<v Speaker 1>is whether or not you been d next to your name.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite frankly, let's just let's just add short summarize the

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<v Speaker 1>evidence differentiating Christine Bausi Ford and Tera Read. With Christine

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<v Speaker 1>Bazzi Ford, you had every single person who she named

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<v Speaker 1>it being at the party for this assault allegedly happened.

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<v Speaker 1>They denied is such a party of her existed. The

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<v Speaker 1>earliest corroboration we have of her telling anyone about this

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<v Speaker 1>alleged assault is in twenty twelve when Capitall was back

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<v Speaker 1>the news because he was on wrong these shortlist before

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court. If you look at terror Read allegation,

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<v Speaker 1>you have multiple people with a few cooperative problems, who

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<v Speaker 1>say that she alleged that Biden had assaulted her at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. But you have at least one person on

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<v Speaker 1>the record, her name or Linda Lcast, who's willing to

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<v Speaker 1>say that she said so two or three years after

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<v Speaker 1>the fact, as well as an official document submitted by

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<v Speaker 1>her husband in response to overstraining order in nineteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's three years after the illegitisal claiming that Reed

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<v Speaker 1>had undergone some traumatic harassment. At the very least, it's

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<v Speaker 1>clear cut that red faced harassment from biting. The assault

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<v Speaker 1>Thoughever has so much more corroboration than the Ford allegation

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<v Speaker 1>ever did. And the fact that Democrats are simply they're

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<v Speaker 1>even saying that they think that the evidence is insufficient,

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<v Speaker 1>they're outrighteous saying that they just don't believe her. It's

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<v Speaker 1>truly gross and it just goes to show how manipulative

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<v Speaker 1>and nasty this specific strain of so called feminism is,

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<v Speaker 1>and just more general point of who the Democrats put

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<v Speaker 1>forward to lead the country. You know, they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make the case that Donald Trump was super and put

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<v Speaker 1>it put aside. We've all heard all the criticisms of

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<v Speaker 1>Trump plenty in this regard and many others. But they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make the case to us that Trump was

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<v Speaker 1>deeply unethical, and they put forward Hillary Clinton. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they made the case that along with also that Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Billy Bush tapes and everything else. And

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<v Speaker 1>now here they are they have another chance to put

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<v Speaker 1>someone forward to a post Donald Trump, and they put

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<v Speaker 1>up a guy who Joe Biden, who has corruption problems

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<v Speaker 1>with Barisma and Ukraine and his son. Whether it's illegal

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<v Speaker 1>or not, it still looks really gross. It's very obvious

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. There has a credible allegation of sexual assault

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<v Speaker 1>against him, and now it seems pretty clear the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>plan is to keep Joe Biden hidden away in the

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<v Speaker 1>basement until election day, Tina, is that is that their

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<v Speaker 1>best move given the realities of what we're seeing about

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden, who's being tested in ways that he's never

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<v Speaker 1>been tested before. I mean, the scare thing is that

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<v Speaker 1>probably is their best move, just keeping him off the

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<v Speaker 1>campaign trail. You know, I said at the outset that

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<v Speaker 1>in the long run he would be best served by

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<v Speaker 1>radical transparency and addressing the read allegation to start with. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>the Barisma issue, the Hunter Biden stuff. I never thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was going to stick. No one thinks that Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden lacks any corruption. But he was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>the personal decency candidate, whereas Trump ragged about grabbing women

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<v Speaker 1>by the you know what, Biden was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>the family man, the respectable man. That he didn't address

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<v Speaker 1>this head on for over a month made it look

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<v Speaker 1>like he has something to hide, and now that he's

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<v Speaker 1>not opening up his University of Delaware archives, it still

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<v Speaker 1>looks like he's something to hide. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he does. I don't know if Para Reid is telling

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. But right now the evidence is quite disturbing,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is not acting like someone who wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be immediately exonerated. So what's his best bet? Right now?

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<v Speaker 1>About one third of all voters tend to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>Tara Reid is telling the truth, and that includes a

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<v Speaker 1>fifth of old Democrats. But still, you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these people are going to vote for Biden anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know that might not be great for them,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does mean that Trump in a way is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of inoculated from one of his biggest deficits, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the character perception deficit. He no longer really is

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about. Oh now he's running against this moral

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<v Speaker 1>paragon with women, because quite frankly, I think that terror

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<v Speaker 1>read allegation has tainted Biden's candidacy in a very serious way,

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<v Speaker 1>especially among the suburban women who were crucial helping Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>win the House in twenty eighteen. Yeah, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>also coming amidst a whole lot of other stuff about

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<v Speaker 1>Biden that is not in question. I mean, the photos

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<v Speaker 1>of him sniffing people and kissing women's heads. And I mean,

1:25:47.439 --> 1:25:50.360
<v Speaker 1>he definitely is a grabby, weird guy with women and

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<v Speaker 1>has been for a long time. I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 1>really any dispute about that. I was told by a

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<v Speaker 1>Secret Service agent who was present about what had been

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<v Speaker 1>written about Biden. I mean, I can ask you as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a woman, if you were in the Secret

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<v Speaker 1>Service and your protectee in this case, Joe Biden found

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<v Speaker 1>it to be a normal routine to go old man Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I'm just saying, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't prevent people from visualizing because I got to

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<v Speaker 1>describe a situation. But he would go swimming naked in

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<v Speaker 1>front of not just the Secret Service details its detailies,

1:26:23.680 --> 1:26:26.519
<v Speaker 1>but female Secret Service detailies. If that were my wife

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<v Speaker 1>or my girlfriend, I wouldn't think that's okay, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of record. Now, No, it's absolutely not. And

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<v Speaker 1>again this is what I said last year when the

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<v Speaker 1>initial Biden allegations, if we can really call them that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, with the hair sniffing and the touching,

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<v Speaker 1>we all know that's wrong. If we saw our grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>to that, we would correct them. We would not let

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<v Speaker 1>our dads, sneak random women's hair. But no, it is

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<v Speaker 1>just a classic person in power. We just got away

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<v Speaker 1>with all of it for so long. Yeah, I mean,

1:26:55.240 --> 1:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>he's the he's the class. It's interesting because the Democrats,

1:26:58.080 --> 1:27:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the woke leftist put forward the classic you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>the the sort of stereotype really of the um, you know,

1:27:06.640 --> 1:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>power hungry, power mad white male who grabs it people

1:27:12.160 --> 1:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and abuses his position specifically for you know, gratification with

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<v Speaker 1>with the opposite sex. I mean that that's this guy.

1:27:19.920 --> 1:27:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Is This guy's like the you know, looking like the

1:27:21.600 --> 1:27:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Matt Lauer of the political world right now, and you know,

1:27:25.640 --> 1:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>there's really they're just gonna you do. I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>saw the editorial in the New York Times, right I

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<v Speaker 1>was like maybe a week or two ago where a

1:27:32.040 --> 1:27:34.599
<v Speaker 1>woman was like, oh, I totally believe her. I'm voting

1:27:34.600 --> 1:27:37.400
<v Speaker 1>for Biden anyway. Oh so now you're just gonna vote

1:27:37.400 --> 1:27:39.479
<v Speaker 1>for a guy he's a sexual assault you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually don't believe like the allegation against Trump and Bergdorf Goodman, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think that the evidence was on that

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<v Speaker 1>woman's side. I forget her name now, the one who

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<v Speaker 1>wrote the book and came forward. But to say that

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<v Speaker 1>you believe it and you don't care, that's a whole

1:27:51.400 --> 1:27:54.240
<v Speaker 1>other level that Democrats are hitting. Yeah no, I mean

1:27:54.640 --> 1:27:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I seem to recall a big, huge hashtagging movement that

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<v Speaker 1>he had to talk about how you know, rape is

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<v Speaker 1>bad and we shouldn't reward sexual assailants with positions of power.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was a whole thing, but apparently that

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<v Speaker 1>was a very long time ago, and apparently it was

1:28:09.400 --> 1:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>just to make sure that we could say Orange Man

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<v Speaker 1>bad and pretend that we had a reckoning about Bill Clinton.

1:28:14.200 --> 1:28:17.120
<v Speaker 1>But you know, apparently it's over down, So that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>quite unfortunate. Why are you gonna have we gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>you have a zoom throw down with some radical left

1:28:22.520 --> 1:28:24.519
<v Speaker 1>wing feminists on this issue. That would be some really,

1:28:24.600 --> 1:28:27.439
<v Speaker 1>that would be a good debate. There's never good debates anymore.

1:28:27.439 --> 1:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>It's everyone's just you know, preaching to the choir. Nobody

1:28:30.280 --> 1:28:33.280
<v Speaker 1>will leave because this would be really interesting. Yeah no,

1:28:33.360 --> 1:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think that someone who's been pretty fair and

1:28:35.720 --> 1:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty sympathetic to not only Biden just but but specifically

1:28:39.080 --> 1:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>conservatives entertaining Biden's candidacy. But the Tea read thing, I mean,

1:28:43.160 --> 1:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the last strong. If you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>vote against tax cuts and judges and an agenda that

1:28:50.240 --> 1:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you like because you want to vote any referendum against

1:28:54.120 --> 1:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Trump's character, you don't do it for the guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>running away from a credible sexual a solilogy. Fair point,

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<v Speaker 1>Tiana Low. Everybody check out her latest at the Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Examiner dot com. Also look for her here as a

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<v Speaker 1>contributor on the First Tianna. Thanks Tina, thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcast, the iHeart Radio app,

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<v Speaker 1>or wherever you get your podcasts. The show ain't over yet, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Keeping it real, It's time for roll call up, bad

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<v Speaker 1>at Up. I haven't done that for a while. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought producer Mark might miss it, so I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>bring back when I sing along with the roll call.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I will not thanks for the clarifications with

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<v Speaker 1>no problem um. One thing I will tell you about

1:29:56.280 --> 1:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>having a dog that's your main companion. I do get

1:29:59.080 --> 1:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to see this, no princess sometimes during the week, but

1:30:01.120 --> 1:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>not all the time. Those probably go nuts having to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with me twenty four seven and close quarters like this. Oh,

1:30:06.640 --> 1:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's called for some people. That's marriage, is it?

1:30:08.920 --> 1:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>You live together, that's the whole thing. But yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>you have a dog run you all the time. I

1:30:14.560 --> 1:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>find that you start you come up with new names

1:30:17.160 --> 1:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>for the dog, and then you also start singing stupid

1:30:19.200 --> 1:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>songs to the dog. And I wonder if at some

1:30:22.160 --> 1:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>point the dog is like, what what has happened to

1:30:24.160 --> 1:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>my human? You know they do have I'm telling you,

1:30:26.800 --> 1:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>this dog, this little French bulldog, has got at least

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<v Speaker 1>the cognitive ability of like a like a two or

1:30:32.200 --> 1:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>a three year old human. I mean she she understands words,

1:30:35.280 --> 1:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>She knows her name when it said, I mean she

1:30:37.160 --> 1:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>can she There's there's thought process that goes into this.

1:30:41.600 --> 1:30:43.759
<v Speaker 1>If I ever, you know, tell her no or naughty

1:30:43.840 --> 1:30:46.559
<v Speaker 1>or something, she punishes me by staring into the corner

1:30:46.560 --> 1:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>and not wanting to hang out for a while. So

1:30:48.800 --> 1:30:50.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, you learn things here, you did say a

1:30:50.520 --> 1:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>producer market know there's been a big surge. I just

1:30:53.360 --> 1:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>looked this up yesterday again. Um, this the one. You know,

1:30:56.280 --> 1:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>we look for those little silver linings as such as

1:30:58.240 --> 1:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>they exist in this current debak goal and you know,

1:31:01.040 --> 1:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>catastrophe as it plays out across the country. But a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of shelters are have seen a huge increase in

1:31:07.840 --> 1:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>adoptions of dogs and cats, which makes sense. And a

1:31:10.600 --> 1:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are fostering animals right now just because

1:31:13.200 --> 1:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be home now, but they won't be home

1:31:14.880 --> 1:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>in the future. Yeah, yeah, And so instead of animals

1:31:17.960 --> 1:31:19.840
<v Speaker 1>being in cages, they're home with people and they're getting

1:31:20.120 --> 1:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, better, better access to care and cuddles. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin kicking us off in roll Call. Remember if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a part of Roll Call, we always

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<v Speaker 1>hope you do. We'd love to get some new voices

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<v Speaker 1>in the mix too. First time, you know, you can

1:31:34.560 --> 1:31:37.599
<v Speaker 1>put in the subject line instead of I love producer

1:31:37.640 --> 1:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Mark or producer Mark, you're hilarious, which will usually be

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<v Speaker 1>a good way to get yourself into Roll Call. You

1:31:42.280 --> 1:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>can also write in the subject you know, first time,

1:31:44.880 --> 1:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>first time roll Call. And then we'll try to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that people that have never gotten a chance to

1:31:48.520 --> 1:31:52.599
<v Speaker 1>have their voice on the show will be on the show.

1:31:53.240 --> 1:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>So Teambucket, iHeartMedia dot com or Facebook dot com, slash

1:31:57.520 --> 1:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton and like I said, some of you have

1:31:59.800 --> 1:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>found me on Instagram, which is great. It's just Buck Sexton.

1:32:02.080 --> 1:32:03.479
<v Speaker 1>Just remember that if you send it a message, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to say, you know, four roll, you know, roll call,

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<v Speaker 1>and then your name and then you can write your message.

1:32:08.640 --> 1:32:13.479
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise you know, it's it's you know, cat cat lover

1:32:13.880 --> 1:32:16.519
<v Speaker 1>five two five nine or something sending me a message

1:32:16.520 --> 1:32:18.519
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, is this a person or is this

1:32:18.640 --> 1:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>some is this some Russian bott The election all right,

1:32:23.920 --> 1:32:28.639
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Buck, The people elected Donald Trump. The Democrat coup failed.

1:32:29.160 --> 1:32:31.479
<v Speaker 1>Now the DNC strategy has shifted to making we the

1:32:31.520 --> 1:32:34.479
<v Speaker 1>people suffer until we throw him out? How far does

1:32:34.520 --> 1:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>this go? The left is evil wolves in sheep's clothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of clothing, where's the buck sex in apparel line?

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<v Speaker 1>I went to BUCKSX and dot com hoping to find

1:32:42.280 --> 1:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>a producer mark T shirt, but no joy shields eye. Um.

1:32:46.800 --> 1:32:49.559
<v Speaker 1>We we're we are hoping to do that. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a limited bandwidth because of all the content we currently do,

1:32:53.439 --> 1:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and and that's just a big way of saying we

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<v Speaker 1>need more staff. I mean, right now, it's we're we're

1:32:58.400 --> 1:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>already running on a on what you would consider for

1:33:01.240 --> 1:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>a nationally syndicated show with as many listeners as we have.

1:33:03.880 --> 1:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>We're at a skeleton crew every day so uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>although I don't feel like a skeleton these days with

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<v Speaker 1>all the mac and cheese I've been eating, and with

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<v Speaker 1>the and with the big bowl of carbonara. That's no

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<v Speaker 1>princess made for me from scratch, gluten free. I've been

1:33:19.000 --> 1:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>eating it for breakfast. I gotta tell your producing mark

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<v Speaker 1>carbonar pasta for breakfast. It's got bacon in it makes

1:33:24.880 --> 1:33:28.599
<v Speaker 1>perfect sense. Have you finally started heating it up? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, she looked at me, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of savage. You know, you're eating it out

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<v Speaker 1>of a giant metal bowl from the fridge. Cold is

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<v Speaker 1>one word for it. I was gonna go with sad.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was delicious. What do you mean sad?

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<v Speaker 1>It tastes fantastic. I'm kidding me. Cold pasta is a

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<v Speaker 1>great Oh, it's amazing. I get into it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I did start heating it up. I'm a little more

1:33:48.760 --> 1:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>civilized now. But have you I will? What did you

1:33:51.720 --> 1:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>tell him? What is the favorite pasta? What's the number?

1:33:53.960 --> 1:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>What does your go to producer? Mark? Pasta? Mac and cheese? Okay,

1:33:59.000 --> 1:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>but like you're an Italian restaurant, you can't order mac

1:34:01.080 --> 1:34:03.439
<v Speaker 1>and cheef. I mean you never know. I mean, I

1:34:03.439 --> 1:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>guess if I'm in an Italian place, Penny Allavadca. It's funny,

1:34:06.880 --> 1:34:09.519
<v Speaker 1>said I was. Actually I watched a video on how

1:34:09.520 --> 1:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>to make that reason I want to I want to

1:34:10.920 --> 1:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>make it from scratch. Not that hard, not really that hard.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's very easy when you go and get

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<v Speaker 1>a jar of sauce from the grocery store and pour

1:34:16.920 --> 1:34:21.280
<v Speaker 1>it over some buzta. Just you know, Producer Mark, we're

1:34:21.320 --> 1:34:23.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna get you cooking. We're good to get you cooking.

1:34:23.560 --> 1:34:26.240
<v Speaker 1>And Missus Mark, Missus Mark is gonna come home from

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<v Speaker 1>from her work in the healthcare industry, and you're gonna

1:34:30.000 --> 1:34:34.519
<v Speaker 1>have laid out like a beautiful from scratch Penney Alivadka feast,

1:34:34.960 --> 1:34:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and you'll even have, you know, like a little guy

1:34:37.320 --> 1:34:39.800
<v Speaker 1>playing the guitar like a lady in the tramp. You know,

1:34:40.640 --> 1:34:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think any of that's gonna happen. Considering she's

1:34:42.720 --> 1:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>a much better cook and she enjoys it. Well, then

1:34:45.400 --> 1:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>you're a lucky man. And there we have it. So

1:34:47.600 --> 1:34:50.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, if you want a surpriser for the birthday

1:34:50.720 --> 1:34:52.840
<v Speaker 1>once Producer Mark's birthday, we gotta get this one. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a month ago. Well, happy birthday from a month ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You literally did a minute on wishing me a happy birthday.

1:35:00.320 --> 1:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I do a lot of radio. Really have the memory

1:35:02.320 --> 1:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>of a fish. Sometimes it's all just just cram. Now

1:35:06.040 --> 1:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I realized I did. I the whole thing. I can

1:35:07.720 --> 1:35:09.599
<v Speaker 1>tell you like, oh yeah, my birthday is tomorrow, Buck,

1:35:09.640 --> 1:35:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and you would have believed, Oh my god, I did.

1:35:11.840 --> 1:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I have the cram so much information, and it's like

1:35:14.080 --> 1:35:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing final exams every day and I got nothing.

1:35:16.400 --> 1:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I got nothing left the snow Princess. Sometimes it is like,

1:35:19.040 --> 1:35:20.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, you told me that story yesterday. I'm like,

1:35:20.680 --> 1:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what stories I've told. I don't know

1:35:23.439 --> 1:35:26.960
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I just so much radio, all right,

1:35:27.160 --> 1:35:29.800
<v Speaker 1>John Buck. I don't know how involved Obama was in

1:35:29.840 --> 1:35:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the whole Russia conspiracy. I don't know how involved he

1:35:32.479 --> 1:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>was with Flynn, But at this point, no one can

1:35:34.800 --> 1:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>convince me he wasn't involved. I believe he was in

1:35:37.600 --> 1:35:40.519
<v Speaker 1>the background, often possibly even calling some of the shots,

1:35:40.800 --> 1:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>but there would be more evidence leading back to the

1:35:42.960 --> 1:35:45.519
<v Speaker 1>White House if he was hands on. But there is

1:35:45.560 --> 1:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>no way, especially with all that we know now, that

1:35:47.680 --> 1:35:53.479
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't involved to some degree. John, Yeah, that's you

1:35:53.560 --> 1:35:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and I. You and I agree on this one. There's

1:35:55.800 --> 1:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>no way that Obama wasn't at least aware of this

1:35:57.880 --> 1:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and that this didn't set off enormous alarm bells and

1:36:01.080 --> 1:36:03.760
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of red flags. You're gonna you're gonna have

1:36:03.800 --> 1:36:07.240
<v Speaker 1>your people go after the incoming You would operate under

1:36:07.240 --> 1:36:10.760
<v Speaker 1>a we can't share all the national security information that

1:36:10.840 --> 1:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>we have with the new national security apparatus of a

1:36:14.240 --> 1:36:18.840
<v Speaker 1>duly elected president and his administration. That's that's stunning. That

1:36:19.040 --> 1:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>is coo like stuff. I mean, that's not the coup itself,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's if you're preparing for a coup later, you

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<v Speaker 1>would do that, or if you had been preparing for

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<v Speaker 1>a coup before, you don't want him to find out.

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<v Speaker 1>Soft coup using the law. But that's you know, using

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<v Speaker 1>some variant of legal interpretation. Oh, you know, Trump colluded

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<v Speaker 1>with Russia. He's a trader. He can't be the president.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, let's go have the sergeant at Arms of

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<v Speaker 1>Congress arrest I you know, whatever crazy dream the libs

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<v Speaker 1>we're thinking they were gonna, or just have the Obama

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<v Speaker 1>administration say sorry, we have to hold a new election.

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<v Speaker 1>And who knows what they were really thinking. They sit

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<v Speaker 1>around talking about Trump's not going to willingly leave office

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. There's been no reason to believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>They also said that he was a fascist for the

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<v Speaker 1>first two years. And now here we are where you

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<v Speaker 1>have a situation. You could not dream of a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>opening for fascism in America than what we are seeing

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<v Speaker 1>happen right now, where if you disagree with government policy,

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<v Speaker 1>you're literally killing people. By wanting to go outside and

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<v Speaker 1>live your life, you are literally killing people. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>they're telling you. Biggest opening for fascism you could ever see.

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<v Speaker 1>And Donald Trump is like, okay, let's work together. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>give the states autonomy. What are the experts saying, let's

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<v Speaker 1>inform the public, you know, let's get reopened, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>people up and running on the economy. The opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>a fascist approach. But do you think any of them

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<v Speaker 1>apologize for that or say I was wrong. I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have said that about the president? Of course not. It's people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's these lib journals that trash trash, I tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, here we go, Scott rites, dear buck. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an essential rider in the share ride driver in the

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<v Speaker 1>Denver metro area, and as happens, we sometimes hear how

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<v Speaker 1>life is treating our customers well. First off, thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>ninety three seven Freedom FM in Denver, one of our

1:38:00.600 --> 1:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>great stations we do. We are number one on our

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<v Speaker 1>time slot there. We're doing so well. Thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>team Buck in the Denver area for listening to the show.

1:38:08.600 --> 1:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>You guys are making Mark and Me look good to

1:38:11.040 --> 1:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>our bosses all the time, So thank you for tuning

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<v Speaker 1>in and making this a such a hit show in

1:38:14.880 --> 1:38:17.479
<v Speaker 1>that area. I picked a man up and when I

1:38:17.520 --> 1:38:19.479
<v Speaker 1>asked him how life was for him during the lockdown,

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<v Speaker 1>he proceeded to recount his recent financial status. He said

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<v Speaker 1>he got laid off from his restaurant job, but received

1:38:25.520 --> 1:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>his tax refund and his stimulus check, so he was

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<v Speaker 1>feeling pretty secure. He started receiving unemployment, which was more

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<v Speaker 1>per week than he was making while working at the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Just when he thought life was good, it got even better.

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<v Speaker 1>His old employer called and asked him to come back

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<v Speaker 1>to work and said that he would receive back pay,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had to say he had been working all

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<v Speaker 1>long if anyone asked, oh, and they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>pay him for forty hours, but he only had to

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<v Speaker 1>work twenty At that point. With a nice raise, he

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<v Speaker 1>was making more than his unemployment compensation, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>happy to be contributing to society again. He was happier

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<v Speaker 1>still this week when his boss told him that not

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<v Speaker 1>enough of his former workmates wanted to come back to work,

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<v Speaker 1>so they had to give him another big raise. To

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<v Speaker 1>his credit, the young man said he's making more money

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<v Speaker 1>than he ever has in his life, but he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel great about it. Shield's high, Scott. This is working

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<v Speaker 1>the system. This is what's going to happen. People are

1:39:15.280 --> 1:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>going to work the system, big companies, individuals, you know

1:39:19.000 --> 1:39:21.320
<v Speaker 1>that everyone just feels like the federal governments now that

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<v Speaker 1>the piggy bank has been broken open, how many coins

1:39:24.479 --> 1:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>are you going to get for yourself? That's the attitude.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a free for all. You're going to see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this. And as far as the Democrats are concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as their constituencies are getting paid off, and

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<v Speaker 1>as long as this is enlarging government, increasing the debt

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<v Speaker 1>and making they're you know, effectively making the government's authority

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's permanent in this regard that they can

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<v Speaker 1>just create what would be a universal basic income. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if we can do this for six months or a year,

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<v Speaker 1>giving people money to stay home, why can't we give

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<v Speaker 1>people anyone who stays all money. Why not just give

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<v Speaker 1>everyone direct payments? Fifteen thousand dollars a month, fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month. We're running up so many trillions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in dead and it's all going to the corporations,

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<v Speaker 1>they say, So, what is the response to this? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael hey Buck, I have two questions related to Governor

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<v Speaker 1>Cuomo labeling the WU flu as being caused by a

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<v Speaker 1>European virus. One, when the President refers to the virus

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<v Speaker 1>as a Chinese virus he has labeled as racist, So

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be labeling that European also be considered racist? I'll

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<v Speaker 1>answer that first. No, because it's not possible to be

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<v Speaker 1>racist against Europeans, the left would say, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>not possibly racist against white Europeans. There is no such

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<v Speaker 1>thing as anti white racism, the left says, And there's

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<v Speaker 1>no such thing as anti white European racism. The left

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<v Speaker 1>also holds to that. Yeah, that's what they believe. So

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<v Speaker 1>what is animus against people for white skin called we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have a word for it. They don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>that it can even even happen, which inherently means they

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<v Speaker 1>must think that animus against people for being white. The

1:41:00.280 --> 1:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>left has to believe if you just logically work this

1:41:03.160 --> 1:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>problem through that animus that any person has, including really

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of self animus, right, the people that have

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<v Speaker 1>white killed. But anyone who has a problem with somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else because of their white skin, or thinks less of them,

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<v Speaker 1>or thinks that they have benefited from society in ways

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<v Speaker 1>that they can't. That belief against white people has to

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<v Speaker 1>be inherently justified by bye history, by current systemic oppression,

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<v Speaker 1>and raise whatever it is. But they don't believe that

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible. And I'm serious, this is a belief on

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<v Speaker 1>the left. They don't think it is possible to have

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<v Speaker 1>anti white racism. That's not possible. Now that gets tested

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes in the courts when you have attacks on individuals

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<v Speaker 1>who are or white because they're white, and is that

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<v Speaker 1>a hate crime? Can that be a hate crime? The

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<v Speaker 1>answer is yes, although authorities are usually very slow to

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<v Speaker 1>charge that one. All right, Number two, since it is

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<v Speaker 1>racist to mention the source of the virus or a pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we celebrate Columbus Day this year, especially since the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest minds of the fifteenth century had no idea how

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<v Speaker 1>viruses and bacteria were transmitted and how they not bad

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<v Speaker 1>vapors cause disease. Only hoping we can regain some sanity

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<v Speaker 1>and our discussions masks high. Um, since it is racist, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>because Columbus brought the explores you kind of mark, You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>this was a little bit of a couple of leaps here, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's because Columbus and the Europeans brought brought you know,

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<v Speaker 1>virus and flew and other things into the New World,

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<v Speaker 1>which decimated the native population here. We're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that because it's racist kind of for them, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're the history guy, so I would just

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<v Speaker 1>say yeah, but that's that's what he's trying to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. So, yes, yeah, a little bit, Michael, I

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<v Speaker 1>see what you're saying. Creative, A little bit of a stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of a stretch. Um. You know, Columbus

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<v Speaker 1>Day in Italian on behalf of the Spaniards. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's uh, I actually you know I'm not I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not too far. I can. I can get to Columbus

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<v Speaker 1>Circle pretty easily. And I think it's gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>one day, they're gonna pull that statue down. They're gonna manage.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean they're gonna actual just destroy it, although

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<v Speaker 1>they might do that too, but they're gonna get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and they're gonna want to rename the circle

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus is marked for is marked for history book extinction.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're going to find a way. You're in the

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<v Speaker 1>freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. More

1:43:22.560 --> 1:43:26.719
<v Speaker 1>roll Call rolling through here. Um. TJ writes Buck, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt that Flynn should be further vindicated. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think Trump may be holding that vindication to campaign on

1:43:34.960 --> 1:43:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I e. Trump speaking, if re elected, I will appoint

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<v Speaker 1>wrongly accused and set up by the administration Obama administration

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<v Speaker 1>General Flynn to such and such a position. Just a thought, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, TJ. I can't. I can't tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>that won't happen, but I think that's pretty unlikely. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that that's the case, although I will note

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<v Speaker 1>that it feels like they've been very there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>real slowness for the release of information that we should

1:44:07.439 --> 1:44:09.760
<v Speaker 1>we should have here, you know that we should be

1:44:11.439 --> 1:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>we should have known. You know, That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the release of classified stuff that should have

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<v Speaker 1>been declassified and released the public should have been faster.

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<v Speaker 1>Murtrump was going to put out the FISA applications declassify

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<v Speaker 1>them a lot earlier than he did, and by the

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<v Speaker 1>time they got out, I don't think they had the

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<v Speaker 1>same impact they would have if we had known about

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<v Speaker 1>it sooner, and the Democrats were able to run around

1:44:33.560 --> 1:44:37.000
<v Speaker 1>and say they're crazy stuff for quite a while. We

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<v Speaker 1>got another sea another from ninety three seven FM Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>You know Freedom ninety three seven, Hey Buck, Hello from Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to say that I find it funny

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<v Speaker 1>that the Democrats refused to give any type of temporary

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<v Speaker 1>tax cut and at the same time they want to

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<v Speaker 1>give every American two thousand dollars a month through the election.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously something stinks here. They want everyone to know that

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<v Speaker 1>they are giving you back your tax money for November

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<v Speaker 1>election purposes. Just a thought, thank you for your voice

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<v Speaker 1>shields high well, thank you, Greg. And Yeah, Democrats like

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<v Speaker 1>to hand out goodies that are really just things they've

1:45:10.240 --> 1:45:12.120
<v Speaker 1>taken from other people, and they pretend like this such

1:45:12.320 --> 1:45:15.400
<v Speaker 1>they're so great and generous in the process. That's a

1:45:15.520 --> 1:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>common theme. Glynnette, Hey, bucking producer, Mark, My name is Glennette's.

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<v Speaker 1>We've figured that one out. I've just been listening for

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<v Speaker 1>a few months, but really enjoy the show. Well, thank

1:45:24.960 --> 1:45:27.479
<v Speaker 1>you so much, Glennette. We appreciate you listening. It's refreshing

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<v Speaker 1>to hear a conservative viewpoint, and it's the sea of

1:45:29.320 --> 1:45:31.880
<v Speaker 1>liberal propaganda. I also laugh out loud every time I

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<v Speaker 1>hear your Nancy Pelosi imitation. A little while back, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you pay up? A C. S. Lewis quote?

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<v Speaker 1>I have been reading his book Mere Christianity and thought

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<v Speaker 1>this quote really describes the liberals at this point. It says,

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<v Speaker 1>the most dangerous thing you can do is to take

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<v Speaker 1>any one impulse of your own nature and set it

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<v Speaker 1>up as a thing you ought to follow at all costs.

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<v Speaker 1>There is not one of them which will not make

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<v Speaker 1>us into devils if we set it up as an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute guide. You might think love of humanity in general

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<v Speaker 1>was safe, but it is not. If you leave out justice,

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<v Speaker 1>you will find yourself breaking agreements and faking evidence in trials.

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<v Speaker 1>For the sake of humanity and become in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>a cruel and treacherous man. That's a really interesting quote.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very good. Thank you so much for sharing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep up the good work. Come to Colorado when you

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<v Speaker 1>can escape New York. Shields high. Well, Glennette, I might

1:46:15.560 --> 1:46:17.479
<v Speaker 1>have to move to Colorado then. Verse sounds lovely this

1:46:17.560 --> 1:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>time of year. We'll talk more about that another time. Team,

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<v Speaker 1>it has been real, it has been fantastic. I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back with you tomorrow. As we do every day, keep

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<v Speaker 1>yourself safe, keep yourself positive, Shields High.