1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. The lockdown rebellion grows. 2 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: California has a stay at home order for possibly three 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: more months. Bailing out the bailouts a judge who doesn't 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: seem to want to let Flynn go, and was Intel 5 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: suppressed that Russia really wanted Hillary to win? Coming up, 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: this is the buck Sexton Show, where the mission or 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: mission is to decode what really matters with passionable intelligence. 8 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: Make no mistake a great here, a great American Again 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: the buck Sexton Show begins. He's a great guy. Now, 10 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: all right, everybody, welcome to the buck Sexton Show. Thank 11 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: you so much for joining today. May or may we 12 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: have much to get to. The big shift that we're 13 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: seeing right now is away from the data, the day 14 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: of the data, testing, test and testing. Well, they still 15 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: talk about that, but they're now increasingly just pushing for 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: what are obviously political goals in this whole process. And 17 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: you can tell because they're going on offense against people 18 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: who want the country to reopen. Doesn't everybody want the 19 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: country to reopen. The only reason that you'd be rooting 20 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: against reopen is political. There's no honest person out there 21 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: who thinks that this is a good situation for the 22 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: American people, that this is a sustainable situation, and yet 23 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: they keep wanting to drag it out. They keep wanting 24 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: to drag it out. Doctor Faucci in the testimony yesterday. 25 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: I read through the transcripts of it. I didn't have 26 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: time to sit there and watch Senator's grandstand, but the 27 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: transcript of it was worthwhile. Doctor Fauci admits that the 28 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: second that you start to reopen, there will be more 29 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: infections that occur, and there will be more depths that happen. 30 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: This is what we are facing now. It's not going 31 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: to be overwhelming. I don't think it's going to be 32 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: this massive second wave that people have been talking about. 33 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: But we got to be able to have a conversation 34 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: as adults in this country about what the future looks like. 35 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: Instead what you get from places like CNN, which I 36 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: really have been thinking about this. I believe the country 37 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: would be better off, happier, and better informed if CNN 38 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: just became a DIY network that actually requires some skill. 39 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: I was going to say cooking network that also a 40 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: network that also requires skill. You know, if CNN, I 41 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: don't know, like rand music videos from the nineties or something. 42 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: You know, There's just there's nothing that you get that's 43 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: a benefit from this channel even existing, and the DNC 44 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: has plenty of other propaganda networks. Nobody would miss it 45 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: except for the people drawing a paycheck from CNN. But 46 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: they have lots of other options, unlike conservatives. There are 47 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: plenty of media outlets for them. But here's what you get. 48 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: Here's what you get from for example, Bro Cuomo, who 49 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: is like, Hey, I'm in quarantine for a while, but 50 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: I was still lifting bro still working up a sweat. Wait, 51 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: but didn't you break quarantine? Oh that's right, you did, 52 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: and you got into a fight with a strangers likes 53 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: to get into fights with strangers. What a buffoon him 54 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: and his brother, both the buffoon brothers really, or the 55 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: Bro's Cuomo as we call them. But here's what passes 56 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: for discourse. Now you've got a national cable news show, 57 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: and you can expect people to say really horrible stuff 58 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: about anybody who wants to reopen. If you are sick 59 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: of being locked in your home, if you're tired of 60 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: this of dubious constitutionality, lockdown order of dubious scientific basis 61 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: as well, Oh it's because you don't care about old people, 62 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: and you're racist. That's the new that's the new addition 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: to this play clip four. It's an interesting juxtaposition, Sanja, 64 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: that the president thing is about being anti elitist. His 65 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: buddy's over on Fox State TV anti elitist. Ten thousand 66 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: deaths are the price tag that their model puts on 67 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: this talk about being elitist. If that's okay, who do 68 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: you think those ten thousand people are going to be? 69 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Who's getting affected the most? The working class, the brown 70 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: working class who's most afraid of reopening too soon, the 71 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: brown working class who's getting sick the most, the brown 72 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: working class who's dying the most. They are is nothing 73 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: elitist about that. It's everything that's elitist. Do any of 74 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: you believe for one second that bro Cuomo, who because 75 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: of his last name, got into certain academic institutions that 76 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: he never would have otherwise, and because of his last name, 77 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: has a job at CNN as a news anchor where 78 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: he's entirely replaceable and deeply unimpressive. Do any of you 79 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: think that he really cares about, as he calls it, 80 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: the quote brown working class. This is a guy who 81 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,119 Speaker 1: shuttles between a multimillion dollar apartment in New York City 82 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: and a house in the Hampton's which, for those who 83 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: don't know, is the fancy vacation destination within a couple 84 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: of hours of New York City out on Long Island. 85 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I really asked this question in earnest. Are 86 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: we supposed to believe that, all of a sudden that 87 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo cares so much more than everybody else about 88 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: the minority working class and that's why he doesn't like 89 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: the administration's plan for reopen, which the Administration's plan for 90 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: reopen has been approved by and signed off on by 91 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: the public health experts that are I think, having far 92 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: too much influence in this whole process. But this is 93 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: where it all goes. You're going to see a series 94 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: of emotional and moral blackmails occur in the weeks ahead, 95 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: in the days ahead. It's already happening. But this is 96 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: what the argument's going to turn into. It was you 97 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: want old people to die, and now it's you want 98 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: old people and minorities to die. If you believe that 99 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: a disease that has a ninety nine point nine percent 100 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: survivability rate for everybody under the age of seventy if 101 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: you believe that that is the case, that we shouldn't 102 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: shut down the whole country. You don't care about old people, 103 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: And now that they're saying, you don't care about minorities. 104 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: As we know, the disease does not discriminate between minorities 105 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: and anybody else. It's a virus. It affects human beings. 106 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: But because of demographic distribution in play, particularly in New 107 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: York City, and the density and the public transportation system 108 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: and a few other factors add it in here. Yes, 109 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: it has had a disproportionate impact on people who live 110 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: in some parts of the city that are largely minority, 111 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: but it's also infecting people all across the country, and 112 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: people of all backgrounds that ethnicities are getting this and 113 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: dying from it. Interestingly enough, I was surprised to see 114 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: the numbers because I think that there was an anticipation 115 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: that we had been thinking that one they were gonna 116 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: be it was gonna be a lot higher overall, But 117 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: smokers don't seem to be at as high of a 118 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: risk for this. In the early day, smokers were, I 119 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: know some. I talked a few about it, and they 120 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: were terrified. It turns out that smokers aren't really as 121 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: high riskless. But but regardless, the moral, the moral blackmail 122 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: attempt here should be met with, first of all, the 123 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: disdain that it deserves. I mean, Chris Cuomo is being 124 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: and this whole thing is disingenuous. What does he want 125 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: us to do. We're just gonna stay locked down forever. 126 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna allow the economy. It's the damage that is 127 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: happening now economically. You won't really even be able to 128 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: understand it for months to come, and it might even 129 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: be years before we're able to see the full and 130 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: long term impact of it, as well as the immediate 131 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: damage of thirty million people unemployed of businesses that we 132 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: keep thinking we're gonna come back, We're gonna we're gonna 133 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: hit our stride, will be something close to previous capacity. 134 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: That's not true. That's not true for the two reasons 135 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: of the regulations and the restrictions that are being put 136 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: on these businesses. It's also not true because there will 137 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: be there'll be much less demand. And then there are 138 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: whole industries that I think are at risk. There's an 139 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: expectation right now that the airline industry might might end 140 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: up having to lay off one hundred thousand people this fall. 141 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: What do we do, I mean, how do we get 142 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: our airline industry back before there's a vaccine? You know, 143 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: you're going to start to see entire business sectors that 144 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: are effectively collapsing. This is why we have bailouts of 145 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: bailouts already, and bailouts of state governments and bailout of 146 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: local governments, and you're gonna have bailouts of more companies 147 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: and individuals. Now, the individuals aren't really getting a bailout. 148 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: It's a rescue, and it's a rescue in response to 149 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: a government policy. But that all said, we don't have 150 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: the money for this, So we can be honest about 151 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: this and understand that this is not a solution, and 152 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: no public health expert will go on TV and say 153 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: it is to just keep our heads down, stay at 154 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: home home. You know, I think it's so fascinating too. 155 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: For all of Chris Cuomo's bluster here about the about 156 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: as he calls it, the brown working class, who does 157 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: he think a lot of the frontline workers are. Who 158 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: does he think a lot of the people who are 159 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: still delivering food, who are still working for ups and 160 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: for the postal service and working in grocery stores and 161 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: working in pharmacies. There's a considerable contingent. I mean, I 162 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: don't know what the percentages are, but plenty of them 163 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: are minorities, and they're still risking their lives every day. 164 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: If you believe that being outside and conducting any kind 165 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: of business is risking your life, which is what we're 166 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: all being told. You know, it's always risking your life. 167 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: Right you leave your house, and I've said this to 168 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: you before. I'm always reminded of the line from the 169 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: movie Heat with Appuccino where he says, you get killed 170 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: walking your doggie, which is true, you can, and I 171 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: walk the dogs several times a day, despite the fact 172 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: that it is possible to get killed walking your doggie. 173 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: All right, we didn't know. And for anyone who's wondering, well, back, 174 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: why are you okay with a two week shutdown? And 175 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: why were you Because we were being told that this 176 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: had a three or four percent mortality rate, that it 177 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: could kill anybody at any age with equal at equal 178 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: risk effectively or close to it. You know, we thought 179 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: this was going to be a much more lethal which 180 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: is I know right now with eighty thousand dead, how 181 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: could you be talking about it being much more lethal. 182 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: But that's where we were led to believe by all 183 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: the scientists. I mean, I don't. I wasn't conducting field 184 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: trials and data and looking at what was going on 185 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: in the hospitals in Lombardi or in Wuhan. We were 186 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: told that this was going to be orders of magnitude 187 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: worse than it was in terms of death. So yeah, 188 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: and that scenario, we're going to have to take a 189 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: pause here and see what's going on. But now we 190 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: have the numbers, now we have the data, and we 191 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: can live through this. But you're seeing the game the 192 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: left is going to play now, and this is for 193 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: political purposes because they're not so stupid, well at least 194 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: most of them. Some of them are so stupid, but 195 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: they're not so stupid in general that they really think 196 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: that you can just stay in lockdown indefinitely. There. I 197 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: don't think they're they're that dumb. Some of them maybe, 198 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: but most of them aren't. What you're seeing is using 199 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: this as a moment to pretend that they care so 200 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: much more about life and therefore they're the good people, 201 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: the better people, when also at the end of this 202 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: they view an enormous benefit to a continued Now, when 203 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: I say continued shutdown, maybe it's a series of shutdowns. 204 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: Maybe it's keeping us all in phase one or phase 205 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: two of the reopened. They want this to go as 206 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: slowly as possible before the election because they want Donald 207 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: Trump to lose reelection. That is a major motivation for 208 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: them at this point. The left, the Democrats, that is 209 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: at the top of the list. Let stop the list. 210 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: They also never even grapple with what the projections are 211 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: for global fatalities, because the truly poor around the world 212 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: are going to be horrifically, horrifically damaged. Many will lose 213 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: their lives as a result of this decision of the 214 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: economic shutdown. I'm also going to need people to explain 215 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: who do we blame? As I told you yesterday and 216 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: we were talking to doctor Scott Atlas here about it, 217 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: who do we blame when we start seeing in three, 218 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: four or five months, just how many people have terminal 219 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: cancer that was allowed to grow and continue uncaught for 220 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: months because of the shutdown. How many who do we 221 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: turn to and yell at when we find out that 222 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: people who stopped chemo for a while now are in 223 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: a much worse position and may lose their lives to 224 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: the disease because the chemo was stopped so that we 225 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: could fight all hands on deck against COVID, including in 226 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: places that barely had any cases across the country. Who 227 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: do we blame for that? Do we get to call 228 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: up the bros Cuomo? If you listen to the media, 229 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to blame Governor Cuomo for decisions that 230 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: seem horrifically bad now in retrospect across the board and 231 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: a record that is appalling, appalling us. If he's in 232 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: charge of the health of New York State and has 233 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: all these agencies and has all these people that are 234 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: experts advising him, he did a god awful job, he 235 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: really did, but you won't hear that from the media. 236 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: That's where we're heading, my friends. It's just going to 237 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: turn into political trench warfare for the next few months. 238 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: They're going to try to make this as slow as possible, 239 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: and they will justify all the economic pain and destruction 240 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: of themselves with two things. Oh, we care so much 241 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: about them. We care so much more than Republicans about 242 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: the minority working class. That's what they'll say. And they'll 243 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: also say anything to defeat Trump is worth this price, right. 244 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean, anything to defeat Trump is acceptable over the 245 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: long run, because he's an existential threat. Who are democracy, 246 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: as they've been telling us for years. So this is 247 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: going to be tough. The rebellion is going to have 248 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: to grow against the lockdown state by state and across 249 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: the country, and we all have to be a part 250 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: of rebelling against it in our own ways. You're in 251 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: the Freedom Heart. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. 252 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: When you wear a mask, you say I respect you. 253 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: That's what the mask says to everyone you walk past. 254 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: I respect you. I respect you, I respect your health, 255 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: I respect your privacy, I respect your space, I respect you. 256 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: I can do anything I want with myself. This is America. 257 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: But I respect you, and out of respect for you, 258 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: I wear this mask, and I respect the nurses and 259 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: the doctors. So I'm not going to infect anyone or 260 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: allow anyone else to be infected unnecessarily, so I don't 261 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: cause more stress on the nurses and the doctors. This 262 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: mask says, I respect the essential workers. Notice how insidious 263 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: this construction, this construct of the mask wearing becomes. It's 264 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: no longer about an individual choice. It's not about your risk, 265 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: it's about all the people around you. This is all. 266 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: This is really just becoming a stand in for you. 267 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: No longer have any rights, you no longer have any 268 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: say in anything, because it's about saving the people around you. Remember, 269 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: saving the people around you from a disease that over 270 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of people will be fine from, but 271 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: because of that less than one percent risk. And there 272 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: by the way they're treating this now, if you if 273 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: you have a psurology test where you have antibodies, are 274 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: you still supposed to wear a mask, that's anti scientific. 275 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: If you're still supposed to wear a mask out in 276 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,359 Speaker 1: the open air where there's effectively zero risk of transmission 277 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: to somebody, that's anti scientific. We have a data, we 278 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: have the studies on this. The evidence does not support 279 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: at least some of what the implications are here of 280 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: what starts to sound like mask fascism. You know, you 281 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: better do this or else because everybody else, because the 282 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: collective needs it, they demand end it. Oh, don't even 283 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: get me started on the peer reviewed CDC published study 284 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: that said that masks in influenza season don't really do 285 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: all that much. I know, I know people you know, 286 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: I did a little bit of research this week back 287 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: into the Spanish flu of nineteen eighteen, and it is 288 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: kind of wrongly named in a sense, but they don't 289 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: know where it came from. There are a couple of 290 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: different theories. We know that the Spanish press wrote about 291 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: it during the First World War because Spain was a 292 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: neutral country, so they didn't have true propaganda restrictions on 293 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: what their journalists were able to say. There were a 294 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: lot of infections. In fact, there were battles that were 295 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: determined in part because there were so many people on 296 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: the front lines in World War One at different periods 297 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: who did have influenza, and so we're completely combat ineffective. 298 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: And it's not helpful to go back really and read 299 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: about because that disease. There was a whole lot of 300 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: stuff that happened with that one that we're not seeing here. 301 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: One of the more notable ones is that it went 302 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: after people, particularly twenty to forty so people who were 303 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: a lot of them who were parents of young children, 304 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: and you would think at a at a healthier stage 305 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: to fight off a disease, but no, that didn't end up. 306 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: That didn't end up being the case at all. But 307 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: the government. This is why it's so notable. The government 308 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: failed at effectively every level in this and you just 309 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: had a rolling series of collapses of different healthcare initiatives. 310 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: You had politicians who made the wrong call. You know. Ultimately, 311 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: what you take from the Spanish flu of nineteen eighteen, 312 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: the history of it, You look at it and you say, 313 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: our public health experts and our government were effectively worthless. 314 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: I mean, the disease just ripped through all over the place. 315 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: They weren't able to really there was like one exam 316 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: There are a couple of islands, you know, the South 317 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: Pacific where the okay, we don't live on a tiny 318 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: desert island in the South Pacific, or tropical island in 319 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: the South Pacific. So the real lesson you take from 320 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: it is that the government was coming up with all 321 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: these different things, and you know, they were setting up 322 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: these they were setting up different medical facilities and putting 323 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: out tribunes. First of all, they didn't have a real 324 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: treatment for it, so I don't even know what you know, 325 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: they were just giving people stuff to give them stuff. 326 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: You know, at some level, the government's panic turns into 327 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: just more and more regulations, the same impulse to always 328 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: write more laws to deal with every problem. The government 329 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: has just laws upon laws. We're also being given all 330 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: of this advice from the government or what to do here, 331 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: and they've really shown us already a legacy of failure 332 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: in preventing and then combating this virus. Thanks for listening 333 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: to the bus sets and show podcasts. Remember to subscribe 334 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you 335 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Is anybody this is administration ever asked 336 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: you or any member that they take the foot off 337 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: the gas and try and find or any type of 338 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: counter measure. No, nothing at all. As a matter of fact, 339 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: h as you know, have me right from the very beginning, 340 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: put off foot right on that accelerator in every aspect, 341 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: including the development of vaccines and therapeutics. And as I 342 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: described my opening statement, we actually started that in January, 343 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: literally days after virus was known and its sequence was published. 344 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: So no, I have never been followed by anyone to 345 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: pull back on the development of any countermeasure or any 346 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: basic and the research project that we've been involved in. 347 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: You won't hear much coverage of the more praise of 348 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: the parts of the testimony yesterday that were praiseworthy for 349 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: the administration or where they were saying, you know, the 350 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: Trump administration hasn't stood in the way of anything we've 351 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 1: tried to do. We've been hearing this montra of they 352 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: don't listen to the experts. They listen to the experts 353 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: all the time. Unfortunately, experts have been wrong on a 354 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff. And this then makes me think 355 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: of where we are in with California. Yesterday, it broke 356 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: in the afternoon that California, according to its public health director, 357 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Los Angeles, according to its public health director, 358 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: was saying that they were expecting to probably be on 359 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: lockdown for three more months in Los Angeles County. They've 360 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: had fifteen hundred deaths from this. You're gonna lock everybody down, 361 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, no more, no going out to shop and 362 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: live life. He can't go to restaurants, you can't go 363 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: to bars, you can't buy things in most stores for 364 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: three more months. I mean, are these people insane? This 365 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: is what the experts the public health because look, there's 366 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: no there's no down. First of all, they're getting a paycheck. 367 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: There's no downside for them to say, Yeah, I mean, 368 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: let's keep keep locking down. They don't want to deal 369 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: with the heat of people like Cuomo. Oh you don't 370 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: care about the working class and minorities. No, it's that's 371 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: not it at all. Actually, you know who's going to 372 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: get hurt the worst by the destruction the US economy, 373 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: poor people and disproportionately poor minorities. That also will really 374 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: affect them, the health implications of the long term for 375 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: preventing people from doing any preventative medicine, from being able 376 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: to treat chronic conditions, and then also on top of 377 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: it all, all of the health effects of just being 378 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: effectively forced to be largely sedentary. I mean, I know 379 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: people say, oh, you can get out of it, but yeah, 380 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: it's different, you know, and you can't see people, you 381 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: can't meet up, you can't go to classes where you 382 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: would you know, you work out, you can't go to 383 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: the gym. You drink more than you've been drinking before. 384 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: A lot of people are going to develop alcoholism, a 385 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: lot of people are abusing drugs. Huge consequence is huge 386 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: cost to all of this. Los Angeles like, yeah, let's 387 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: do this for ninety more days. I mean, I hope 388 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: there is mass non compliance. But the problem is now, 389 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: the closer we get to November, and now you have 390 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: to start seeing it this way, the closer they can 391 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: push it to know, the better off they know Joe 392 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: Biden's chances will be. And I know we shouldn't be 393 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: thinking about it or we shouldn't have to think about 394 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: it in those terms. I think Matthew McConaughey released some 395 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: let's not make this political ad nice idea of a 396 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: little too late, buddy, it's very political. They view this 397 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: as just how much runway can they take away from 398 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: the Trump administration to get things back on track and 399 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: to improve the economy. So the more they extend, See, 400 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: they are incentivized now to extend the lockdown to get 401 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: that as close to November as possible. I'm not really 402 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: all you have to do. I mean, if they can 403 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: keep us in a state of even semi lockdown until August, 404 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: they think they must know that the economy won't. First 405 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: of all, the damage will be enormous, the damage gets 406 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: greater in time, but also the pull out of the ditch, 407 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: so to speak, right, the removing ourselves from these these 408 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: difficult circumstances that will not be able to occur quickly 409 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: enough for people to give the administration any credit or 410 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: any any faith. And that's how you get a Joe 411 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: Biden presidency. You know, they're they're just gonna, you know, 412 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: take the little blankie off his shoulders and take the 413 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: little thermis of warm milk out of his hands and 414 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: trot him on up to the victory stage, yelling because 415 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, and we're all suppois, Yeah, 416 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: this guy, he's really got it. He's really going to 417 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: run the country great. But it's just a figurehead. It 418 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: just it's it's not about you have to remember this 419 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: because I know I like to point out what a 420 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: horrible candidate he is, but it's all about the mythology 421 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: they've created around him, the continuation of the Obama legacy. 422 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: And it's not really about Joe Biden. For the left, 423 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: it's about all the people that then are in positions 424 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: of authority. It's about who Joe Biden appoints to be 425 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: head of HHS, who Joe Biden would put on the 426 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: Supreme Corps, who Joe Biden has running the White House. 427 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: Who That's what really matters to them, and we all 428 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 1: those people will just be the Democrat, the Democrat power 429 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: and control echelon. You know, they're all already waiting in 430 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: the wings. This is also why the Bernie Sanders thing, 431 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: they're like, ah, the people that really call the shots, 432 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: they're saying, okay, well, Biden, we know, we'll do what 433 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: we want him to do. I mean, he's effectively a 434 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: puppet of the left wing political apparatus in this country now, 435 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, of the Democrat establishment, which is the same thing. 436 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: The left and the Democrats are obviously synonymous. Now, so 437 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: that's that's something to remember as we go through this. 438 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: But also, you know, with California thinking they might extend 439 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: their lockdown ninety days, I think it is worth noting 440 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: that we're talking, we're starting to see schools claim already 441 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: that they're not going to be reopened for the fall. 442 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: Universities some universities have said they're going to be taking 443 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: teleclass only, so you know, virtual classes or teleclass or 444 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: whatever however you call it. People are really going to 445 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: be paying sixty thousand dollars a year to watch classes 446 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: on a computer and sit at home. I don't know how. 447 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: You know, university's got so fat and happy in the 448 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: in the last thirty or forty years. It's just been 449 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: an it should have been outrageous, this arms race of 450 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: the you know, the fake credentialing system that they all 451 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: have set up. There are too many schools for it 452 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: to even really matter anymore. All the schools are great, 453 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: and the elite schools bring in Bozo's by the truckload too, 454 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: for all kinds of reasons, whether it's rich mommy and daddy, 455 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: or social justice or athletics or whatever. Not. The whole 456 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: university system as the preparatory ground for the leadership of 457 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: the future, that's all garbage. Now. If you want to look, 458 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you really need a you need a baseline 459 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: level of educational tools and skills which you can get 460 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: and people are finding out you can actually get it 461 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: at home. But you can also you get this by 462 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: the time you're you know, if you're in a pretty 463 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: rigorous program midway through high school probably and then after 464 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: that just self directed study, apprenticeship, hands on learning, working 465 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: at different things and jobs. That's going to become much 466 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: that's going to become much more important. Sitting in a 467 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: lecture hall and writing two completely monotonous research papers a 468 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: semester and doing this over and over again for a 469 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: whole bunch of different classes. This is not No one 470 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: is impressed by, you know, someone's psyche degree from Oberlin, 471 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: no one. No one cares anymore if they ever did. 472 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: So that's going to be a change that comes out 473 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: of all of this, I think. I know, I always 474 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 1: pick on Overlin down. There are some schools that get 475 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: picked out a lot. Oberlin's definitely one of them. Brown 476 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: University too, you know, yeah, an ivy without grades. That 477 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: sounds really rigorous, sounds like people are really working hard 478 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: there and getting getting a great education. Sure, I digress. 479 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: So here's the other part of the opening school though. 480 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: This is where we get into the you know, I'm 481 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: focused in on this with testing because I can only 482 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: make so much noise. I can only tell so many people, 483 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: you know. I mean here, here's a perfect example. I mean, 484 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: this morning, I woke up and I just thought, okay, 485 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: just so we're all clear here, we should be out 486 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: of lockdown. This is nuts. Just a reminder, that's what 487 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: I tweeted up. I'm just gonna keep telling everybody this. 488 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: This is crazy. Now New York should in two days, 489 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: New York should allow a phase one reopening the metrics 490 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: were pretty close to it, but they're going to delay 491 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: another two weeks, and then if we're a little bit 492 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: behind the metrics they have, they might delay in another 493 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: two weeks. Well, we shouldn't burn a month because of 494 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: arbitrary metrics about leaving thirty percent of hospital beds open 495 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: for COVID patients when there's no way we're going to 496 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: have that kind of a surge going to the summer 497 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: right now. It's not going to happen. You know, we haven't. 498 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: We learned our lesson from the terrible models that they 499 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: used and how far off they were. They were so 500 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: wrong on ventilators, they were so wrong on ICU beds, 501 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: wrong at all this stuff. But now we're supposed to 502 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, they keep getting the numbers wrong, the projections 503 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: about the numbers are wrong, and we say, well, hold 504 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: on a second. They say, oh, don't worry about that. 505 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: That's water under the bridge. We see, yeah, But now 506 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: today you're saying, based on this new set of projections, 507 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: this is what we need to do right now. And 508 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: we look at this and go, well, hold on, don't 509 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: don't we get to you know, aren't we in the 510 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: trust tree and the nest can't we Nope, Nope, not allowed, 511 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: not allowed. You're supposed to listen or else listen or 512 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: else they don't want to hear it. So yeah, the 513 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: CDC director Robert doctor Robert Redfield, who was talking about testing. 514 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: As you know, I'm very focused in on this testing 515 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: part of it because there's it's really easy to say 516 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: and remember, government never will tell you we don't have 517 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: we we can't fix this for you. That the government 518 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: won't really accept that. That's just not in their mindset. 519 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: They think if they just have more control, they can 520 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: fix anything. If you give the government more power, it 521 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: is a belief of government that it will be able 522 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,239 Speaker 1: to handle whatever the problem is. And this is an 523 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: enormous miscalculation of misconception. And really our entire system of 524 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: government is premised to prevent that creep, right, but we've 525 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: been losing that battle really for the last hundred years 526 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: or so now where the federal government's is getting larger 527 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: and more powerful all the time, but the federal government 528 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: believes that it can fix the problem. Well, we'll hold on, 529 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: let me come back and we'll talk about testing. And yes, 530 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: there's all these numbers, but there are some things that 531 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: they're not telling you as they're telling you the numbers. 532 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton 533 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: Show podcast. All right, So what's the truth of testing? 534 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: Mid Romney was there during the briefing yesterday to clarify 535 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: that when they said we've done more per capita testing. 536 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: The President said it, and it was also brought up 537 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: by Admiral Jerwar during his testimony that we're doing more 538 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 1: per capita asking that Romney's like, well, we weren't doing 539 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: more per capita testing at the beginning of this. Okay, 540 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: that's true, but that's not what they said. Thanks to Mit. 541 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: Always good to have Mit Romney way and tell us that, 542 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's on no one's team. He's on 543 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 1: team Mit. And so that's the kind of loyalty you 544 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: wanted a public servant, a guy who only cares about himself. Oh, 545 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: I know there are others. There are lots of others. 546 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: We could name them, but we don't have time for 547 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: that right now. So here's here's what they're saying about 548 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: testing and how essential it is. Play clip six. Rapid, 549 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: extensive and widely available timely testing is essential for reopening 550 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: America CDC's role in testing continues to support diagnosis and 551 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 1: contact tracing, surveillance, and outbreak. Okay, testing is really important, right, 552 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: Here's what they're not telling you. We're already We're already 553 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: at a point we have excess capacity for the testing 554 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: that we have in most states, meaning that people aren't 555 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: getting tested all the time. And for what they're envisioning, 556 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: they're looking at creating a capacity where you have tests 557 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: that are so ubiquitous that they're all across the country 558 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: and people will constantly be getting them. You know, what's 559 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: going to have to happen. And they're not talking about 560 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: this yet, but I'm telling you this is the next 561 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: phase mandatory tests for all kinds of things. People aren't 562 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: just going to show up and get tested for coronavirus, 563 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to get tested to really know. 564 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: And they've the health experts have said this. You're gonna 565 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: have to get tested every every two weeks. You can 566 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: get tested and you're negative, and the next day you 567 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: get infected. So what is the expectation. They're talking about 568 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: doing fifty million tests a month by the fall, it's 569 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: one in six Americans getting tested. You know, over the 570 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: course of the month, getting tested in the fall. How 571 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: is this going to happen? Well, you look at the 572 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: South Korea model, which I've brought up with you in 573 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: other places, and there's a lot of you will get 574 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, you have to get tested, You will be tested. Okay, 575 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: So we're going to trust the government that didn't see 576 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: this pandemic coming, that essentially closed the barn door after 577 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: the horse has left with the spread of the virus. 578 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: Now we're going to trust them to determine how often 579 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: we all get tested and what the ramifications of that 580 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: will be. My friends, this is this is a mess. 581 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: This is a mess, and it doesn't even have the 582 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: intended If you test, you know, fifty percent of the 583 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: US population, you know, in one month, there's still one 584 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty million people out there who could get 585 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: infected and could spread this disease to other people. So 586 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: what do we think that. Yeah, I'm not saying it's 587 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: not help, of course, testing as a role of course, 588 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: but we have let's just look at something that we 589 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: can all understand. We have testing right now for the flu. 590 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: And I brought this up i think yesterday on the show, 591 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: and I got the flu a few years ago, and 592 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: I took the test and they said, oh, yeah, you 593 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: got full blown influenza. My friend, the whole thing it 594 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: was very there. Okay, I had been kind of sick 595 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: for about three or four days by the time I 596 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: went in, and I had been around I'm sure plenty 597 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: of people having no idea that I was sick even 598 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: before I had any symptoms. So what's the huge Okay, 599 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: so now I know that I've got the flu, which 600 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: I pretty much knew anyway. Do you think that all 601 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: these asymptomatic people are going to be going in to 602 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: get tested? I mean the trace part of this too, 603 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 1: This is where, oh my gosh, there's all this focus 604 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: on how we're not up to where we need to 605 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: be on the trace system memory. Yesterday we're talking to 606 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: doctor Atlas and what he said about how the tracing. 607 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 1: Oh here you go. Here's Senator Doug Jones harping on 608 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: this one seven play it. Are you saying that you 609 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: think that the federal government and or state governments are 610 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 1: capable of doing the level of contact tracing that we 611 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: will need. They are capable? Are they capable at this 612 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: very moment? Absolutely not. We've got to get more money 613 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: to him, we've got to figure out this plan. Doctor 614 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: Redfield testified yesterday that he's with the states. I believe that. 615 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: I think that the state, I know in my state, 616 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: they're looking at trying to ramp up all this. We 617 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: are not capable of doing that at this very moment, 618 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: but I think we've got the time, We've got the 619 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: opportunities to do that. We've got to get more money, 620 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: we've got to get a plan. Those plans are being developed, 621 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: but they need to put that urgency on those plans. 622 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: I think by this summer, I think we can do that. 623 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, look, we've got the opportunities to learn from 624 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: these lessons. We've got to seize those opportunities. Or as 625 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: doctor Fauci said, there's going to be more needless suffering 626 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: and more needless deaths. There is absolutely no way that 627 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: this tracing army of one hundred thousand people that the 628 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: lockdown consensus is pushing for is going to be formed 629 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: in time. And even if it is, to think that 630 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: this is going to be effective, I mean, you've got 631 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: to be kidding me. More than half the people, by 632 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: a lot of studies that have this are asymptomatic. So 633 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: you're going to have some government employee that comes and 634 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: visits with you and tells you you know, and you 635 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: to tell them everyone you've been around, everyone you've been near. 636 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 1: Then they're going to go talk to all those people. 637 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: Think about how I went through a federal background investigation, 638 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: which was a incredibly slow and grotesquely incompetent process that 639 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: involved countless useless man hours, and that was in the 640 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: just the elite echelon of trying to get a t 641 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: S clearance to go in to the CIA. You really 642 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: think this army of tracers is going to be efficient? 643 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: What's their training? What do they know about anything? One 644 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people, you're going to have TSA agents, so 645 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: to speak, no offense TSA. I know some of you 646 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: love the show, and I appreciate you keep the plane safe, 647 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: but you're going to have people who are newly minted 648 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 1: federal employees who are going to be showing up and saying, 649 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: guess what, you have to stay home for two weeks, 650 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: and so does everyone your family, and so do all 651 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: your coworkers under pain of fine. Oh yeah, that won't 652 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: be a problem. Folks. Thanks for listening to the Bus 653 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the 654 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. It has 655 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: become an article of faith that the Russians wanted Donald 656 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: Trump to win the twenty sixteen election based upon an 657 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: intelligence community assessment from years ago. What if that wasn't true. 658 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: What if, in fact, there was contrary intelligence and it 659 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: was suppressed. That's a bombshell, and it's one that has 660 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: been raised by a man who knows what the heck 661 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: he's talking about. What it comes to all this, Fred Flights. 662 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: He is the president for the Center for Security Policy. 663 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: He's a former National Security Council Chief of Staff and 664 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: CIA analyst. Fred. Great to have you back, Hey, Bud, 665 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: good to be here. All right, start with this. You 666 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: wrote an article on I think it was Fox news 667 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: dot com where you raise the possibility or you raise 668 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: that your belief that John Brennan, when he was CI 669 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: director may have done what when it comes to the 670 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: Russian narrative, But it was a very strange intelligence community 671 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: assessment that came out in early twenty seventeen that said 672 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 1: the Russians meddled in the twenty seventeen election and did 673 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: so to help Trump win. This is a very strange assessment. 674 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: It didn't follow the rules. Only three agencies were involved, 675 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: Only half a dozen analysts of those agencies were involved. 676 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: And you and I know that when you do these assessments, 677 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: you're bringing all the experts and you extensively vetted. But 678 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: this one was rushed through. They didn't follow the rules. 679 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: There were no dissents. It was just strange. And I've 680 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: been talking about that for a long time. Well, I 681 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: learned in the summer of twenty eighteen that there was 682 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: a House Intelligence Community report that found that this assessment 683 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: was rigged in that there was intelligence that the Russians 684 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: wanted Hillary Clinton to win that John Brennan suppressed over 685 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: the objections to CI analysts, and instead very weak intelligence 686 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: that didn't meet CIA standards was included that the Russians 687 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: wanted Trump to win. Brennan had that included, also over 688 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: the objections of CI analysts. I think this goes to 689 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: the larger narrative that there was really an all government 690 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: effort by the Obama administration to destroy Donald Trump during 691 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: the campaign, during the transition, and to destroy his presidency 692 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: by weaponizing intelligence. This was just a piece of that. 693 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean, let's just put on our CIA hats for 694 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: a second here, Fred, and think about if you're Vladimir 695 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: Putin Hillary Clinton. The Democrats traditionally have been very malleable, 696 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: very willing to play ball, did not view. I mean, 697 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: you look at what Obama said tomit Romney about how 698 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty call they want their foreign policy back, did 699 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: not view. Russia only became a problem two Democrats after 700 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: Hillary lost the election. So if we just were to 701 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: work backwards here, we'd say, hold on, why would it 702 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: be so clear that Putin would want Trump to win? 703 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: You would only believe that if you also believed all 704 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: of the now entirely discredited nonsense, including you know, the 705 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: Pea tape and the dossier and all this craziness which 706 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: we now know was totally fabricated. If you were working 707 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: backwards and you look at this from a more reasonable 708 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: perspective on foreign policy, there's at least an argument that 709 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: you would think that Vladimir Putin would have wanted Hillary 710 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: to win. So why wouldn't anyone come to that conclusion? 711 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 1: I think in the intelligence communities is an interesting question 712 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: in and of itself. Well, the president's critics have tried 713 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: to said, well, the Russians didn't like Hillary Clinton. I 714 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: think that's true, but they walked all over her, and 715 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: they walked all over Barack Obama and the House and 716 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: tells the Comunity staffers said they wanted her to win 717 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: because she was a known quantity, and they didn't want 718 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump to win, accorded to the same staffers, because 719 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: he was an unknown quantity and they were worried he 720 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: was going to bring anti Russian hawks into his administration. 721 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: So it's possible for the Russians not to like Hillary. 722 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: But still they wanted her to win because they knew 723 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: they could walk all over just like they did when 724 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: she was Second of State. Now, Fred, we're speaking of 725 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: Fred Flights. He's the president for the Center for Security Policy, 726 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: former NSC, former CIA. Talk to me about the Obama administration. 727 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: I'm sorry the Obama himself role in what we've seen here, 728 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: given given this meeting that happened in January and the 729 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: request to be kept in the loop about everything going on, 730 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: and then the Susan Rice memo saying written to herself 731 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: on her last I think her last hours in her role, 732 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: send herself an email saying, oh, we want to make 733 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: sure everything's by the book, why should we believe? Why 734 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: should we believe that Barack Obama was not personally involved 735 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: in the targeting of General Flynn? For example, given what 736 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: we know well, Susan Rice wrote an email to herself 737 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: about a January fifth meeting that she had the President 738 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: Obama and Clapper was in there, and Komey and Sally said. 739 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: During the meeting, Obama said, do we have to turn 740 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: over everything to the income Trump administration on Russia? This 741 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: was really an appalling thing for a president to say, 742 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: because there's a very important principle of our country called 743 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: a peaceful transfer of power. The outgoing administration fully cooperates 744 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: with the incoming one. They turn over the keys of 745 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: the officers. They tell them about foreign policy initiations that 746 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: they're launched in, they tell them about intelligence has been collected. 747 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: The idea that the outgoing administration wanted to with not 748 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 1: just withhold intelligence that they had collected, but to task 749 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: career officers like Komey and Saliates to continue to investigate 750 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and his staff after the left office. It 751 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 1: is such an appalling violation of this important principle of 752 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: our country. This is what distinguishes us for ten pot dictatorships. 753 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: When the election is over, the losing party submits to 754 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: the will of the American people and cooperates and wishes 755 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: the next administration well Instead. Barack Obama clearly, by that 756 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: question in that January fifth meeting, directed his staff to 757 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: withhold information and to continue to undermine Trump even after 758 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: inauguration day. Now there's the unmasking controversy that has gotten 759 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: a little bit more attention, in part because there have 760 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: been these reports that the Acting Director of National Intelligence, 761 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: Richard Grinnell, has been saying, Look, I'm going to release 762 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: a list of the senior administration officials now and just 763 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: to review for everybody. I think this audience knows as 764 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: quite well. But unmasking refers to getting information about what 765 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: had been covered up US personnel names, essentially in surveillance intercepts. 766 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: You unmask him, it means, well, instead of US person 767 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: number one, it's Fred Flights, right, instead of US person 768 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: number two, it's Buck Sexton, and they can find out 769 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: who the person is having in the conversation. That's a 770 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: very sensitive tool to use because you're talking now about 771 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: surveillance on American citizens. Fred Oh, Where does this unmasking 772 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: issue stand what's Grinnell's position and why does it seem 773 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: like it's been held up. I'm not sure why it's 774 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: been held up, but it's an important principle that in 775 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: foreign intelligence reports, the names of Americans are redacted because 776 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: we're not supposed to collect against them. I've been involved 777 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: in unmasking. It's very unusual to have to be a 778 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: very good reason to do it. Now. Democrats run around saying, oh, 779 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: it's done all the time. It's not done all the time. 780 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: I was John Bolten's chief of staff for four years. 781 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: He made ten such requests. Deputy Secretary of Armatage in 782 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: four years made four, but Samantha Power, Obama's ambassador to 783 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: the UN, made two hundred and sixty requests, most of 784 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 1: them in late twenty sixteen. Buck, I don't understand why 785 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: the ambassador to the UN would need so many requests, 786 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: reportedly of Trump campaign officials. I also don't understand why 787 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: the names of these requesters hasn't been made public. It's 788 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: not sensitive. I want to know specifically who asked reports 789 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: massed Michael flot to be damasked, and what was the 790 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: reason that they did it. I think we need to 791 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: know that it's pretty clear it was an effort to 792 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 1: destroy Flynn as part of their effort to destroy Donald Trump. 793 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: And on this and look at it for me, and 794 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: we're speaking to Fred Flights, the president for the Center 795 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 1: for Security Policy x NSC and CIA Fred on this 796 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: issue of basic transparency. Are we going to get this 797 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: list of the maskers? And are the unmaskers rather? And 798 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: you know what the number of requests was it It It 799 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: seems to me like this is executive branch information or 800 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: how can they stop us from knowing if we go 801 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: through proper procedures. I mean, D and I Cornell seems 802 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: to want to get it out there as of at 803 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: least yesterday I saw there's some kind of a hold up. 804 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,919 Speaker 1: Are you confident we're going to find out? Because yeah, 805 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: what you just said Semantha Power unm maaster, there's basically 806 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: zero reason for her to be doing this. I mean, 807 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, you and I have both seen a lot 808 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: of class wider reports. I remember when we would talk 809 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: about anything that would touch on us personnel. They're like, 810 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: if you abuse any of this and we find out 811 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: you messed around, you're out and you're going to leave 812 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: in handcuffs. And that was the attitude. But with these 813 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 1: Obama administration officials, let's say, you know whatever, it's our power, 814 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: it's our prerogative. Are we going to find out? Well? 815 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,959 Speaker 1: I have not discussed this with mister Grenell. He sent 816 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: the list of the requesters of the unmasking to the 817 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: Justice Department. The Justice Department said, it's not an our 818 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: authority to demask them. Now, my understanding is Burnell has 819 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: the highest authority to demask or to declass by information 820 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: aside from the President, that he can release it. I 821 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: wonder whether maybe Gurnell sent this to the Justice Department 822 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: so to make sure that his actual would not interfew 823 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: with John Dorham's investigation of misconduct around the election. But 824 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: the president can demask, I mean, can reveal these names immediately, 825 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: they're not classified. It's under his purview, or he can 826 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: direct Gronell to do it. There's there's there's no lawsuit, 827 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: there's no right of these people to withhold this information. Yes, 828 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: and they should should be fine with it. I mean, 829 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: this is you know, the other problem here is there's 830 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: there's no reason to believe that the people that were 831 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: requesting these unmaskings, we're not askings, you know, we're asking 832 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: how many times and who were the officials who asked 833 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 1: for the unmasking? That should be information. I mean you 834 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: just said, you know, Bolton asked for ten times. That 835 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: doesn't set up any red flags, right. But if we 836 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: found out that Bolton, before a Democrat was about to 837 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 1: be president, and all of a sudden asked for you know, 838 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 1: three or four hundred unmaskings in the last weeks that 839 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 1: he was in the job, and there was an effort 840 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: to destroy a Democrat official who you know, then people 841 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: would want to know what's going on. So it seems 842 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: pretty clear here that they're playing games. Are you just 843 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: before before we let you go, Fred, are you confident 844 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: in the look I've been very cynical about On the 845 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: one hand, I've been I've known how bad a lot 846 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: of the deep state as you have, too bad a 847 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: lot of the deep state machinations have been, and the 848 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: lies about the dossier and all this other stuff, which 849 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: we've now we've been proven right, So high five you 850 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 1: and me and along with any others. But we've been 851 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: proven right. Okay. I've also said, don't expect any of 852 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: these people to go to prison or even face criminal charges. 853 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: So far, I've been right on that too. I don't 854 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: feel good saying that, but I've been right. Do you 855 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: think the Durham probe, if they've got the goods, would 856 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: actually put the cuffs on somebody like a Clapper, A Brennan, etc. 857 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: Because I think the answers now. I'm sort of concerned 858 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: that will never happen. But I'm holding out hope that 859 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: Michael Flynn will be able to sue for damages for 860 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: this prosecution to him, I think was completely groundless, manufactured 861 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: by multiple Obama officials. That that isn't full justice. But 862 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,959 Speaker 1: I think we'd all feel pretty good if he got 863 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: back his legal fees and some fees for the emotional 864 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: damage to discress he was put through by this fraudulent investigation. Yeah, 865 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: he might be able to do a Bivens action, I 866 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: think is what is called against for civil rights violations 867 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,879 Speaker 1: from the federal government. Those are very tough to win. 868 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: So we'll have to see Fred Flights everybody, President of 869 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 1: the Center for Security Policy, former NEC and CIA. Fred 870 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: always appreciate it. Man, come back soon. Thanks, You're in 871 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast team. 872 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 1: If you recall last week, I said that we had 873 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: found out finally the truth of the ambush and the 874 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: effort to destroy General Flynn. Now here we are, and 875 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: I mentioned to you that we got to see what 876 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: the judge does because some of my savvier legal eagle 877 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: friends and minds out there had had brought up to 878 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: me behind you know, behind closed doors or on various 879 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: communications that we had. You don't know until this judge 880 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: actually says, okay, we're done here. You know, the case 881 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: is dismissed, and we got a problem because Judge Sullivan, 882 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: Judge emmetts Van has decided. This happened yesterday, and people 883 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: are stunned by this. I was not stunned, as you know. 884 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: I was saying, Okay, we gotta wait to see what 885 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: the judge does. You go back, you check the transcript 886 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: last week. I was like, we gotta see what this 887 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,760 Speaker 1: judge does. It's got can be a little crazy sometimes. 888 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: And now he's allowing third parties to submit amicist curier briefs, 889 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 1: friend of the court briefs to allow effectively to allow 890 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 1: all these left wing interests and these groups that hate 891 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: Flynn to you know, sound off on how awful he 892 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: is and how this is the wrong decision. What do 893 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: third parties have? Who the heck? Who the blank cares 894 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: what some other person thinks of the Department of Justice 895 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 1: dropping the case against General Flynn. Why is that relevant? 896 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean, now, the judge can do this. Obviously he 897 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: is doing it. But what this shows us and know 898 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: usually this only happens in civil cases, and it's to 899 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: give buddy the opportunity. It's to give outside interests the 900 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to have their voices heard in a trial that 901 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 1: maybe touches on, you know, issues that are sweeping and 902 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: that a lot of people have a stake in this 903 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: is This is not a good indicator, my friends. This 904 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: is looking like he's giving a voice to left wing 905 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: anti Flynn activists so that then he'll have backing for 906 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: when he says, yeah, I don't care that the deal 907 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: and he can do this. He can do this, Judge Sullivan. 908 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: He can say I don't care that the Department of 909 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: Justice has said this case never should have been prosecuted 910 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: and we do not wish to continue its prosecution. Here's 911 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:45,240 Speaker 1: the problem. He already Flynn, as we know, already pleaded 912 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: guilty because they stacked the deck. They essentially falsified evidence. 913 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: Against him. They changed the FBI three zero two, and 914 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 1: now the judge could just say, Okay, guess what doj 915 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: I don't need you to prosecute this case anymore. I 916 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,760 Speaker 1: already have a guilty defend didn't who has pleaded guilty, 917 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: and I'm going to sentence him. And that means he's 918 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,399 Speaker 1: the felony stays on his record, and you know, maybe 919 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: he sends him to prison for a few weeks. I mean, 920 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: the judge could theoretically send m to prison all the 921 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: way up to the top of the guidelines, which I 922 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: think would be a couple of years. But if he 923 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: did that, and maybe you will if you did that, 924 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 1: and then we I mean, we know this guy's completely 925 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 1: out of his mind. There was cooperation with between Flynn 926 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: and the Muller probe, so you would think that he 927 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 1: was facing zero jail time. This was an issue of 928 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: the man's honor, his integrity, getting back his reputation, the 929 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 1: financial and psychological damage done to him. These deep state judges. 930 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you go into Washington, DC, you know the 931 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: DC circuit. You got a bunch of Obama appointees. This 932 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: guy's domn Obama pointee, but you got on a bunch 933 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: of Obama appointees. You have a far left jury pool. 934 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 1: They've all been watching too much of the you know, 935 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 1: the idiot show on MSNBC and CNN, especially on Russia 936 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: collusion stuff, and there's no accountability. Really, so a judge, 937 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this judge, If this judge does do what 938 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: I think he may. In fact, do my friends think 939 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: about this, that we would have gotten to the point 940 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 1: where the evidence was so overwhelming of the entrapment and 941 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,720 Speaker 1: the setup of the Trump National Security advisor General Flynn 942 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: that the Department of Justice had a career officials say 943 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: even after a guilty plea, we're sorry, we messed up. 944 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: We withdraw our case, and a deep state judge, activist 945 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: judge decides that doesn't matter. He still he still thinks 946 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,280 Speaker 1: that the person should go to prison or should be ruined. 947 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: Come on, this is this is absurd, But this is 948 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: what we are up against. Now you're seeing it. He 949 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 1: may force the president to pardon a in this It 950 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 1: would be a convicted you know, a convicted felon. That's 951 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: what he will be if the judge allows it to be. 952 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: So that the judge's pronouncement is, you know, this is 953 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: what happened, and he will. He will force the President 954 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 1: United States to pardon Flynn. You know what that does. 955 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 1: Then the left turns around and says, ce justice was served. 956 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: It's only the president who had to bail him out, 957 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 1: one of his political cronies. They'll forget all about the 958 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 1: new information. They'll forget all about the do we get 959 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 1: Flynn a lie or do we just get him fired? 960 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: That's all you have to know here. The FBI never 961 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: has a motivation to set up a meeting with you 962 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 1: so they can get you fired from your job. That's 963 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: not a criminal matter, that's not a criminal sanction. We 964 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,760 Speaker 1: don't want you to be in this position of authority anymore, 965 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: so we're gonna try to mess you up. That's like 966 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: a high school prank, but conducted by the most powerful 967 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: law enforcement agency in the country, dudes with guns who 968 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: can lock you up in prison and ruin your life. 969 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 1: This judge is going to allow that to happen, hasn't 970 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: we We don't know yet, but it's looking more and 971 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:56,760 Speaker 1: more like, yeah, yeah, he thinks that's justice. Disgusting. Thanks 972 00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,080 Speaker 1: for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to 973 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,760 Speaker 1: subscribe on Apple podcast. The iHeart radio app or wherever 974 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. I wanted to talk for a 975 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: moment about something that occurred on Sunday's edition of Meet 976 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 1: the Press. During the program, we enter sound bite from 977 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 1: a CBS News interview with the Attorney General Bill Barr. 978 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,359 Speaker 1: In the bite that we aired and commented on, mister 979 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: Barr was asked how he thinks the history of his 980 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: decision to end the prosecution of the former National Security 981 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 1: Advisor Michael Flynn will be ready. Mister Barr answered, quote, 982 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 1: history is written by the winner, so it largely depends 983 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: on who's writing the history and the full version of 984 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 1: the interview and transcript. He went on to say, but 985 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: I think a fair history would say that it was 986 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: a good decision because it upheld the rule of law. Now, 987 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: we did not edit that out. That was not our edit. 988 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 1: We didn't include it because we only saw the shorter 989 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 1: of two clips at CBS did air. We should have 990 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: looked at both and checked for a full transcript, a 991 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 1: mistake that I wish we hadn't made, and one that 992 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: I wish I hadn't made. The second part of the 993 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: Attorney General's answer would have put it in the proper 994 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,800 Speaker 1: context and had I seen that part of the interview, 995 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: I would not have framed the conversation the way I did, 996 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: and I obviously am very sorry for that mistake. We 997 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: strive to do better going forward. Chuck Todd with a 998 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 1: full on I was wrong, but like kind of it 999 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: was CBS's fault for putting out the shortened clip. But 1000 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: do we buy that one? And we have so many 1001 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 1: other things to talk about. With our buddy David Harsani, 1002 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 1: who joined us now from National Review, we'll also talk 1003 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: about his latest excellent piece there David Chuck Todd saying, yeah, okay, 1004 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: we got this wrong, but you know, CBS put out 1005 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: a short clip and we just went on that. I know, 1006 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,280 Speaker 1: I actually, I actually don't think this was an error. 1007 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: I think they just thought they'd get away with this 1008 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: because it's so egregious and so clear that there's just 1009 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think? Yeah, I tend 1010 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 1: to think that he did that on purpose to make 1011 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: a point that was something that a lot of the 1012 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 1: media was talking about at the time. But you know, 1013 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: the problem here, I think is that there's never any 1014 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: consequence for this sort of thing. I'm saying, Chuck Todd 1015 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 1: should be fired. But I mean, you know, in the 1016 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 1: old days, you are a newspaper and you cut a 1017 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: quote in a way to make someone seem like they're 1018 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 1: saying something they're not, there would be some kind of 1019 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: consequence I think for it. Even today, I saw the 1020 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: New York Times had a quote from Jared Kushner where 1021 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: he says, you know, I'm you know that the elections 1022 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 1: will be delayed. But when you look at the whole 1023 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: quote later on, it actually says he says I am 1024 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: not in charge of that, you know, which is an 1025 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: important part of the statement which was cut out. So 1026 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: then you know Hillary's repeating it. It It becomes like embedded 1027 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 1: in the conversation that we're having. Tons of people believe 1028 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,320 Speaker 1: it and we just move on. Every time it happens 1029 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 1: every week, at least once a week, where you have 1030 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: someone mangling a quote, it's got to be on purpose 1031 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: because it always views in the same exact direction. It's 1032 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,959 Speaker 1: just as it's impossible that they're always getting things wrong 1033 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 1: in the same direction all the time for a year 1034 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 1: after year. It's it's not plausible. Now, we were just 1035 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 1: talking before you came out about the judge Sullivan who 1036 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 1: looks like he's going to give the opportunity for amicus 1037 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 1: briefs to be filed out. What's gone on here with 1038 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 1: the DOJ dropping charges against General Flynn. I was worried 1039 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: about this last week. I brought it up on the 1040 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: show so the audience would be prepared for the possibility 1041 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: of something weird happening here. I didn't know how bad 1042 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,359 Speaker 1: it would get. There is the possibility that he still 1043 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: sentences Flynn as if the DOJ it doesn't matter. I mean, 1044 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: he could. I've discussed this with a former DJ friend 1045 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 1: of mine. That is absolutely something that could go on here. Somehow, 1046 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 1: it looks like people are just planning to move past 1047 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: the targeting I mean on the left and the meeting 1048 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: in particular, to move past the targeting of Flynn and 1049 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,919 Speaker 1: the trove of new information that I think everyone would 1050 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 1: have to agree is really relevant about what happened here. 1051 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you wrote a piece Obama Gate is not 1052 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory there, and you say that there's more. 1053 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: This is up on National Review right now. There's more 1054 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: evidence for the targeting of Flynn and for Obama Gate, 1055 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: meaning Obama being directly involved in this in some capacity, 1056 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: than there ever was for Russia collusion. But we're just 1057 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 1: the media just wants to move passes. I mean, Brian Stelter, 1058 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 1: who's a joke in a clown, was saying that the 1059 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 1: right is obsessed with this story. Now it's so hard 1060 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 1: to even push back against what they're doing because it's gaslighting. 1061 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,919 Speaker 1: You know, they pretend that it's a conspiracy theory, even 1062 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: though you ask them a slew of questions. There's a 1063 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 1: ton of evidence, a ton fies of a warrant applications 1064 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: over ninety percent of them in this case had fraudulent 1065 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: evidence and were riddled with errors errors, and you have, 1066 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, tons of stuff that we're learning about Adam 1067 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 1: Schiff and how he lied about having evidence of collusion 1068 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: and so on. I mean, there's so much, and they 1069 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 1: never answer any of those specific questions. They just quickly 1070 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: jumped to some you know, over the top comment the 1071 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: Trump made, or you know, some exaggeration he made, and 1072 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: then sort of revolve their argument around that and ignore 1073 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 1: the massive evidence we have that something wrong had happened here. 1074 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 1: So it's difficult to push back against it. But it 1075 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: is not a conspiracy theory. Perhaps it's you know, perhaps 1076 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 1: Obama and I mentioned this in my peace. You know, 1077 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: people jumped all over. Perhaps there's no specific crime that 1078 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: Obama you know, engaged in that we're going to prosecute 1079 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 1: him for. I think you shouldn't think that. People shouldn't 1080 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: think that's going to happen. Clearly he knew what was 1081 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: going on, and clearly there are abuses of power here. 1082 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 1: And it matters because Joe Biden and a ton of 1083 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: the people involved in that are trying to take power back, right, 1084 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 1: and they used that investigation to undermine the administration here. 1085 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: It's an abuse of power. Yeah. And if you had 1086 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 1: heard about a European country, for example, where during the 1087 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: what's supposed to be the peaceful transition of power, you know, 1088 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: if in the UK, one outgoing prime minister had had 1089 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, the head of m I six and m 1090 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 1: I five in a room and said, hey, let's let's 1091 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 1: pull all the phone calls and emails of the top 1092 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 1: natural security advisor to the incoming prime minister and the 1093 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 1: incoming government. Now they have a different system out of 1094 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 1: the transition doesn't work. But you know, you know what 1095 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying, we would all look on this with horror. 1096 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: We would say, oh my gosh, what's going on in 1097 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: that country. I mean, that's really scary stuff here we're 1098 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: supposed to move past. You know, when you put it 1099 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 1: in very basic terms, I think it's it's helpful. The 1100 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Obama administration elicitly spied on the Trump campaign, senior Trump officials. 1101 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 1: They lied, they covered it up, and then they actually 1102 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 1: used the lies to target people. That that is a fact. 1103 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Now that did happen. No one seems to care, though 1104 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 1: on the left, its worst than that. They used concocted evidence, 1105 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 1: paid for by the Democratic Party to launch this investigation. 1106 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: They withheld contrary evidence in their warrants when their initial 1107 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,439 Speaker 1: warrants on people within the Trump War of it. They 1108 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: then some of the agents said explicitly said that it 1109 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 1: was an insurance policy in case he was elected. I mean, 1110 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 1: there's tons of evidence. And let me just quickly say 1111 01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 1: this too. Everyone's always like, you know, they'll call something 1112 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory because it's not plausible within their worldview, 1113 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 1: Like Obama worked tan suit. That's the worst thing you 1114 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 1: could possibly have done. Obama spied on the American people 1115 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:15,959 Speaker 1: and his his you know, Clapper light about it in Congress. 1116 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: Brennan spied the Congress they spied on Iran deal, you 1117 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 1: know opponents, They spied on AP journalists, they spied on 1118 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 1: a Fox News journalists. They were they normalized and weaponized 1119 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 1: spying for political reasons long before they did this. Why 1120 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: does anyone believe that they wouldn't do this when they 1121 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 1: were doing this kind of thing for years. Well, and 1122 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,440 Speaker 1: I look, I think a big part of it is 1123 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 1: that they also knew that. And I mean one of 1124 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 1: the biggest jokes of the mainstream media is that they 1125 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, they would on some of these issues, they 1126 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 1: would hold Obama accountable writing one kind of milk toast 1127 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 1: editorial or having like fake Tapper over at t and 1128 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 1: be like this raises troubling questions. That's what they do. 1129 01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: What a democrat essentially shreds the constitution. When Trump theoretically 1130 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: could do something, they're calling it fascism and saying that 1131 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 1: he should be kicked out of office through impeachment. I mean, 1132 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 1: that's the I mean, journalists are saying this. That's the difference. 1133 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: So there's no accountability Trump had done or the Trump 1134 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 1: at administration had done any of the things I just 1135 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: mentioned in relation to spying, especially on journalists. You know, 1136 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 1: they would have melted down. It would it would be 1137 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 1: never ending and rightfully, so you know that's the thing. 1138 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: It's the same thing with the Biden sexual assault allegations. 1139 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 1: It's not that you're acting wrong, now you know how 1140 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 1: you're covering these things. Maybe it's that you don't do 1141 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 1: you don't cover the other people with the same tenacity, 1142 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 1: and you don't care. And that's the problem. And I'll 1143 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 1: give you a good example of why it's a problem. 1144 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 1: David fromm who's you know, everyone knows David from is 1145 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 1: He He says, this whole conspiracy theory about Obama Gaate 1146 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 1: doesn't matter because no one is covering it and no 1147 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 1: one cares. So you see, they can cover the Russia 1148 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 1: collusion thing that turned out to be. And I think 1149 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 1: hoax is too light a word for what it is. 1150 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 1: It's a dangerous conspiracy to tried to undermine the transition 1151 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 1: and the legitimacy of a presidency. But then when we 1152 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 1: prove that it's it's, you know, this corrupt enterprise, we 1153 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: don't care because no one pays attention. Well, no one 1154 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 1: pays attention because you're not covering it. That's why no 1155 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 1: one's paying attention. So the media matters and how they 1156 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 1: cover things I think really matter. And this is a 1157 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 1: good example of why we're speaking to David Harsani, Senior 1158 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 1: International Review. He's got a great piece Obama Gate is 1159 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: not a conspiracy theory up on National Review dot com. Now, David, 1160 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: I want to I want to transition to something that 1161 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: i've I've sort of talked you about offline. I have 1162 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 1: tried to be slow because I do think and I 1163 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 1: was especially somebody here in New York and you know, 1164 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 1: I've got you know, relatives, they're in the high risk 1165 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 1: age group. And you know, in the early weeks of this, well, 1166 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 1: from the information we had, it looked like this was 1167 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 1: going to be It looked like it was going to 1168 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: be nineteen eighteen in a sense with the with the 1169 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 1: Spanish influenza, We're going to have a three to four 1170 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 1: percent fatality rate, which people thought talk about fifty million 1171 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 1: dead from the Spanish flu It was a five percent 1172 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 1: fatality rate. Actually mean, that's what it was, and that 1173 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 1: gets you to fifty million dead around the world at 1174 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 1: that time when they had a much smaller population to 1175 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 1: be much higher. Now it turns out it's much much 1176 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 1: less than that, and so you would think that there'd 1177 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: be a ratcheting down of concern and also an elevation 1178 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 1: of the economic concerns. This is just a way of saying, 1179 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm now at the point where I think that most 1180 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 1: of the opposition to reopen and to individual and economic 1181 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 1: freedoms has become political. It's actually not fear based. Where 1182 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 1: are you on the spectrum and what's changing your mind 1183 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 1: one way or the other about this? Well, look when 1184 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 1: you see folks writing pieces about how, you know, Republican 1185 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 1: governors want to kill their population, but then they conveniently 1186 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: leave out Colorado or places in California, you know, mayors, 1187 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,640 Speaker 1: things like that, and just focus on Georgia or someplace, 1188 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, some red place, And obviously they're just using this, 1189 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, for politics. And I think that I don't 1190 01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 1: think it was a hoax that this was coming and 1191 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 1: people were legitimately scared, and they legitimately tried to close 1192 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,240 Speaker 1: down and flatten the curve and all that stuff. I 1193 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 1: think it was legitimate. But I think since then a 1194 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 1: lot of partisans believe that they need to keep the 1195 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,640 Speaker 1: economy closed until November to win the election. And that's 1196 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think there are a bunch 1197 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 1: of people like that. And because of how partisan everything is, 1198 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, you can't really have a debate about economic 1199 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 1: trade offs and the trade offs and lives and all 1200 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 1: of a sudden if you you know, if one person 1201 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 1: is dying, we can't open it up. It's such an 1202 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 1: inane position to take that we don't take for any 1203 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 1: other thing we do in life. It's like, I wonder, though, 1204 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 1: like as you mentioned, individual freedom, like what number of 1205 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 1: deaths allows and powers of governor to just buy fiat 1206 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:48,920 Speaker 1: make make decrees without government proper government channels. Because sixty 1207 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,720 Speaker 1: thousand people dive the flu, I'm not saying this is 1208 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: like the flu, but why wouldn't they be able to 1209 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 1: save those lives as well in the same exact way. 1210 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 1: In fact, if there's twenty thousand dead, why why do 1211 01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 1: you want them to die? It's the argument doesn't make sense. 1212 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 1: It's too wide open. So um, here's my position is that, Yeah, 1213 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm against any kind of course of effort 1214 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 1: by government to tell people how to act and to 1215 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 1: limit their movement. I personally pretty much follow all the 1216 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 1: roles because I'm kind of a coward. But um, for 1217 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 1: other reasons as well. But I just don't see why 1218 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 1: the Maryland governor where I live can tell me that 1219 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 1: I can't go shopping. So but see, here's here's here's 1220 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 1: the point. And I appreciate that you admit that you're 1221 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 1: taking you know, you're taking those personal precautions and so 1222 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 1: you're not telling But you know, I think people that 1223 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 1: are advocating and I would assume you're finding yourself in 1224 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 1: this group too. It's that if you want to continue 1225 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 1: to take individual precautions for yourself, No one's saying don't 1226 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,440 Speaker 1: do that. What people like me are opposed to is 1227 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 1: you know someone recently, I just saw this today on 1228 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 1: social media. A couple of guys like got together, some 1229 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 1: bikers got together to have some drinks somewhere or something, 1230 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 1: and twenty police cars show up and are like, you 1231 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 1: better break or we're going to rescue because you're breaking 1232 01:06:55,320 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 1: our COVID ordinance. That's a problem. I I mean not 1233 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 1: to get too into it, but you know, I have 1234 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 1: someone in my family as them, you know, compromise or 1235 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 1: I want to keep them away from this or even 1236 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 1: the flu or anything like that, you know, so I 1237 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 1: do my best to do that. That's a personal decision. 1238 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 1: There's a zero reason why the parks here are closed. Right, 1239 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 1: There's zero reason why a beach should be closed. There's 1240 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 1: zero reason why the government should be able to tell 1241 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of bikers not to get together and have 1242 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 1: a Beer's just know what constitution doesn't say except if 1243 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 1: things are you know, some people are dying from a virus. Well, 1244 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 1: I think I take it serious. Yeah, well, ultimately, ultimately 1245 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,400 Speaker 1: I also view this as if the government can say 1246 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 1: your actions could theoretically have a negative health consequence. Er 1247 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean when I mean your actions, you are normal 1248 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 1: day to day actions, just you being a human being 1249 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 1: who's going about your life, can have negative consequences for 1250 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 1: somebody else. And they can tell you that, you know, 1251 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 1: you can't open your business. How far are we from 1252 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 1: China where they say no, you cannot leave your home, 1253 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 1: you cannot leave, you cannot go outside, and if you do, 1254 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,440 Speaker 1: we will either find you or imprison you. Don't. I 1255 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,919 Speaker 1: don't see how there's a where's the where's the check 1256 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 1: on that authority? I don't see where it is. I 1257 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 1: think they could declare that and some people say okay. Yeah. 1258 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 1: I think some people would say okay, But I think 1259 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,959 Speaker 1: it's also important to remember that in general, I stay 1260 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 1: home despite the rules. You know that the governor telling 1261 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,640 Speaker 1: me I have to, I don't do it because of that. 1262 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,600 Speaker 1: I think most Americans would act in ways that are responsible, 1263 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,719 Speaker 1: you know, considering the information they have, without government telling 1264 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 1: them to do it. And I think that's what happened 1265 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 1: initially in Florida and other places. People locked down because 1266 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, they took it seriously. But as I'm sure 1267 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 1: you've mentioned many times, you know, this was about flattening 1268 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 1: the curve, and we've done that clearly, so I don't understand, 1269 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, the argument changed while we've been locked down, 1270 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,680 Speaker 1: and we should be allowed to be upset by that 1271 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,599 Speaker 1: by them. We should be allowed to note that and say, 1272 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 1: hold on a second. Yeah, the point was we didn't 1273 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 1: want to overwhelm hospitals is a very decent point to make, 1274 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,959 Speaker 1: and New York really suffered and there was a potential 1275 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,280 Speaker 1: of that happening. But you have other places, your hospitals 1276 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 1: going out of business, en firing people because no one's 1277 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,919 Speaker 1: showing up for the other ailments that they have. Obviously, 1278 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 1: there's been a spike in in people calling suicide lines 1279 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 1: things like that. There are other costs, but we're not 1280 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 1: allowed to talk about those things, and that makes me 1281 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,599 Speaker 1: suspect that it's because there are underlying partisan reasons they 1282 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 1: don't want us to talk about it. David Arsani, everybody 1283 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 1: check them out at Nashville. I'm sorry, go ahead, David. 1284 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're done. I don't want to team. No, no, 1285 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 1: you got we got another minute. Go ahead. I was 1286 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 1: just gonna say, I mean, I think that people protesting 1287 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,400 Speaker 1: and stuff like that reflects well on American life and 1288 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 1: Americans in general that they don't just meekly listen to 1289 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,200 Speaker 1: the state and you know, follow all those orders that 1290 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,519 Speaker 1: are you know, to me, seem unconstitutional in some sense. 1291 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, all right. David Arsani of Natural Review. David, 1292 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 1: always great to see you man. Thanks for your time 1293 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 1: any time. Thanks for having me. You're in the Freedom 1294 01:09:54,400 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 1: High This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Just when 1295 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 1: you thought CNN couldn't get any more ridiculous, they up 1296 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,639 Speaker 1: their game and get more horrible. It's amazing what they're 1297 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 1: able to do. Really, It's like they sit around in 1298 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 1: a room thinking, how can we be a bigger fake 1299 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 1: news network and more awful in what we do? The 1300 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 1: decisions we make the coverage we have. CNN has decided 1301 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:26,920 Speaker 1: that they are having an expert panel come together on coronavirus. 1302 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,880 Speaker 1: And guess who they're including in their expert panel. Seventeen 1303 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 1: year old Greta Thunberg. That's right. Remember, how dare you 1304 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 1: remember Greta Thunberg. She is an expert in nothing, she 1305 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 1: is seventeen years old. But CNN, while they're lecturing everybody 1306 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 1: about science and expertise all the time, CNN is putting 1307 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:54,679 Speaker 1: her on a televised panel of corona virus experts. These 1308 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 1: CNN morons are beyond parody. They really are. I can't 1309 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 1: even think of a effective ways to mock them anymore. 1310 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 1: They debase themselves so much more than I ever could. 1311 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The bus Essence Show podcasts. Remember 1312 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,360 Speaker 1: to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever 1313 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:19,040 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Collectively, we already spent about in 1314 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: the process of spending about two point eight trillion dollars, 1315 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,400 Speaker 1: we now have a debt the size of our economy. 1316 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 1: So I have said, and the President has said as well, 1317 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 1: that we need to take a pause here and take 1318 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:39,120 Speaker 1: a looking what we've done. See what's working, see what isn't, 1319 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,599 Speaker 1: and also begin to encourage the governors around the country 1320 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 1: who have the decision making ability to begin to open 1321 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,800 Speaker 1: up the economy. Gotta stop spending money. That's a Mitch 1322 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 1: Mcconnought's a cocaine Mitch way of saying, look, we got 1323 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 1: we gotta take a breather here, guys. We can't just 1324 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 1: be throwing trillions out Even the US federal government can't 1325 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 1: just be thrown and trillions out the window like they're 1326 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, candy corns or M and M's or something. So, 1327 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 1: by the way, producer Mark, what are the best of 1328 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,479 Speaker 1: all eminem flavors that are out there? What is number one? Oh? 1329 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 1: That's tough. Um, definitely, I mean regular is the goat 1330 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. I do like the caramel 1331 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,360 Speaker 1: and I saw some sort of fudge filled one recently 1332 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 1: I discovered recently for the holidays, I discovered hazelnut Eminem's, 1333 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,000 Speaker 1: and let me tell you, they are fantastic. They weren't 1334 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 1: as good as I wanted them to me. I still 1335 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 1: like them. I wanted them to be filled with nutella. Yeah, 1336 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 1: but they weren't. I find peanut Eminem's very disappointing. Yeah, 1337 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,679 Speaker 1: I'm not a big peanut. Peanut, butter and butter, amazing peanut. 1338 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 1: It's not worth it. It's not worth it. You know, 1339 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm not into it, not having it. So Mitch McConnell saying, 1340 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 1: no more M and m's for you, America, or at 1341 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 1: least we got to stop throwing M and m's. We 1342 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,680 Speaker 1: gotta stop doing this. We can't keep showering every problem 1343 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 1: with money when our is working at a fraction of 1344 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 1: its normal capacity. I mean, this would be bad to 1345 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: be spending at this level even if the economy was 1346 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,680 Speaker 1: really good. But we're going way beyond, way beyond what 1347 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,280 Speaker 1: anybody thought would be possible. And you know, we've now 1348 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,080 Speaker 1: reached this point where it is deeply political. In this 1349 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,559 Speaker 1: new Pelosi, Pelosi's pushing for a oh well, here she's 1350 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 1: telling us what she wants to do, which is to 1351 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 1: transform America. This has going back to the Obama idea 1352 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,479 Speaker 1: and the progressive's idea for the last a hundred years. 1353 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,200 Speaker 1: I'll just keep changing America as radically as you can 1354 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 1: and do whatever you got to do to get the 1355 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,320 Speaker 1: power necessary for that process. Here's Pelosi is saying that, 1356 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,719 Speaker 1: you know, this COVID nineteen situation, it's an opportunity play 1357 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 1: play nine. We must all take an extra moment to 1358 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,479 Speaker 1: understand the numbers who are seeing, which show the most 1359 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:52,439 Speaker 1: overwhelming in our lifetimes. These numbers require action that we've 1360 01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,599 Speaker 1: never had to take before. There are those who said, 1361 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,879 Speaker 1: let's just pause. You have the families who are suffering, 1362 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,880 Speaker 1: though that hunger doesn't take a pause. The rent doesn't 1363 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,120 Speaker 1: take a pause, the bills don't take a pause. The 1364 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 1: hartship of losing a job or tragically losing a loved 1365 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,879 Speaker 1: one doesn't take a pause. This is an historic challenge 1366 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,320 Speaker 1: and therefore momentous opportunity for us to meet the needs 1367 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:18,600 Speaker 1: of the American people to save their lives, their livelihoods 1368 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,760 Speaker 1: at our democracy. Let's understand this, friends, We are in 1369 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,679 Speaker 1: the early phase right now of what unless we stop, 1370 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:33,240 Speaker 1: it will be the most massive momentous expansion of government 1371 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,080 Speaker 1: at all levels that we have seen in this country 1372 01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,840 Speaker 1: in a hundred years, and it may in fact be 1373 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,719 Speaker 1: the most massive expansion of the government that has ever happened. 1374 01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 1: It certainly is the biggest expansion of the debt based 1375 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,599 Speaker 1: on numbers, and even if you were to even if 1376 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 1: you were to look to control it, for you know, 1377 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 1: the value of the dollar then versus the value of 1378 01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,599 Speaker 1: the dollar now still even if you were to adjust 1379 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,720 Speaker 1: it would be We've never seen anything like this. I mean, 1380 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:06,640 Speaker 1: the Democrats. This is the biggest opportunity that they have 1381 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:12,559 Speaker 1: had in my lifetime to transform the American government into 1382 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 1: being the mega state that they that they ideologically and 1383 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:20,960 Speaker 1: really emotionally and at some levels spiritually are attached to. 1384 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,559 Speaker 1: That's what's happening right now, and we have to see 1385 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,920 Speaker 1: it for what it is, because otherwise we're just going 1386 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,960 Speaker 1: to be in a position where we are engaged in 1387 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 1: what you could call and the financial markets people are 1388 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,040 Speaker 1: for to repeat surprise. You're just gonna say, oh, wait 1389 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,559 Speaker 1: a second, you mean that one? You here we are 1390 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,880 Speaker 1: we were going forward and they're using this. We knew 1391 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,360 Speaker 1: in the beginning, they said it was a crisis they 1392 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,599 Speaker 1: were going to use as an opportunity. And now they're 1393 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,040 Speaker 1: expanding the government and they're going to keep expanding government, 1394 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,520 Speaker 1: and they're doing all the things that we would have assumed, 1395 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,479 Speaker 1: if we had taken a step back, the left would 1396 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:59,800 Speaker 1: do in a moment like this. Yes, that is exactly 1397 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,880 Speaker 1: what is happening right now. But it's hard to see 1398 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 1: it in the moment because you want to believe that 1399 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 1: Democrats can put aside their part is in wishless, their 1400 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 1: part is in fantasy. Just while we're dealing with this problem. 1401 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,080 Speaker 1: You want to believe that that's happening, But it's not. 1402 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,960 Speaker 1: They are using this now for political purposes and their 1403 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,879 Speaker 1: primary motivation in the policies that they're pushing, because they've 1404 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,439 Speaker 1: bought into this false, this false narrative of if it 1405 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,360 Speaker 1: saves just one life, just like they do with gun control, 1406 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,760 Speaker 1: that is a recipe always for government absolutism. If my 1407 01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:42,400 Speaker 1: policy can save just one life, it morally overrides any 1408 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:47,160 Speaker 1: objection you might have, any right you may have. There's 1409 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,680 Speaker 1: no outer limit to this, there's no boundary for this, 1410 01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,200 Speaker 1: and they've established this. This is now the position. If 1411 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,880 Speaker 1: more people will die from COVID nineteen, and who knows 1412 01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,520 Speaker 1: even over what horizon, I mean, maybe in the aggregate 1413 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 1: more people we won't die if we were to just 1414 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 1: open and just go about on normal lives. Because if 1415 01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,599 Speaker 1: we're going to her immunity right now, guess what that means. 1416 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,160 Speaker 1: People are getting infected no matter what the government says 1417 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 1: or does and it just changes the speed, but it 1418 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,800 Speaker 1: does not change the overall pool of the infected. If 1419 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,080 Speaker 1: in fact that's now I'm not saying that's true, but 1420 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,759 Speaker 1: increasingly it looks like that's He's still a lot of infection. 1421 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:24,680 Speaker 1: Three hundred thousand infections a day under lockdown. That's the 1422 01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,639 Speaker 1: best guests they have right now. So every ten days, 1423 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,559 Speaker 1: another three million people will have been infected in this 1424 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 1: country with COVID nineteen during lockdown. So what do we 1425 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 1: think we're really accomplishing here. It's a political motivation, not 1426 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,559 Speaker 1: a health not an epidemiological motivation at its core. But 1427 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 1: they use this premise, this false premise of if a 1428 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,960 Speaker 1: government policy can save just one life, you cannot object 1429 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,120 Speaker 1: to it, in order to shut down all opposition. This 1430 01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 1: is also why Pelosi is, she understands this, and that's 1431 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,519 Speaker 1: why it's very hard to get through. It's very hard 1432 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,080 Speaker 1: to push them. You know, if people that are writing 1433 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 1: into me on social media, oh, you want old people 1434 01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 1: to die, the horrible things, it's a it's a total lie. 1435 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,519 Speaker 1: These people are morons, but they're leftist, so they already 1436 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:14,599 Speaker 1: believe an ideology that is godless, hateful and stupid. They've already, 1437 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,559 Speaker 1: and there's no escape from that as long as they 1438 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,280 Speaker 1: believe that ideology. That's what they think and that's who 1439 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:23,240 Speaker 1: they are. But they use this to shut down any 1440 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,080 Speaker 1: objection that we have to what they're trying to do. 1441 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,240 Speaker 1: And you can already see it. I mean, Pelosi's pushing 1442 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,680 Speaker 1: this three another three trillion dollars in spending. You know 1443 01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:32,960 Speaker 1: what they want to do. They want to extend the 1444 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:37,640 Speaker 1: federal six hundred unemployment sweetener. Well, if they extend that 1445 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,240 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty one, which is what Pelosi's bill looks 1446 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 1: to do. Right now that she's already unveiled this bill, 1447 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:48,080 Speaker 1: you have effectively achieved a stell fifteen dollar plus minimum wage. 1448 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,640 Speaker 1: You know, based on how much money people will be 1449 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,720 Speaker 1: making into twenty twenty one. You're not going to get 1450 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,679 Speaker 1: these workers back. And then Pelosi would just say, maybe 1451 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 1: we extend the employment benefits another six months and another 1452 01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,960 Speaker 1: six months. And the only way you get people to 1453 01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,120 Speaker 1: want to go off unemployment at that rate, given what 1454 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,439 Speaker 1: the state benefits will be, and the government keeps, you know, 1455 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 1: refilling the coffer. Refilling the coffer is if you're going 1456 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 1: to offer somebody considerably more money. So now you're looking 1457 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,719 Speaker 1: at it again. Fifteen dollars plus you might have small 1458 01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,920 Speaker 1: business owners will be faced with you either pay a 1459 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,600 Speaker 1: twenty dollars minimum wage or people would rather be unemployment 1460 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 1: into twenty twenty one. This is real, folks, This is 1461 01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,240 Speaker 1: happening right now. This is what your government is doing 1462 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:29,240 Speaker 1: in your name. It's a disaster. We have to rest 1463 01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,839 Speaker 1: control back. We knew. I knew, I said it to you, 1464 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,639 Speaker 1: you said it to me. We knew that they would 1465 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,400 Speaker 1: seize too much power and they would not relinquish it. 1466 01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,080 Speaker 1: They would use the emergency to take the power into 1467 01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,400 Speaker 1: their hands and then their greedy little fingers. The government 1468 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,000 Speaker 1: would not release the authority that they have just taken 1469 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 1: it upon themselves to have in this crisis. We saw 1470 01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,720 Speaker 1: it coming and we didn't stop it. Now we have 1471 01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 1: to push back, and it's going to be a fight. 1472 01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,360 Speaker 1: Government likes power, doesn't like to give it up at 1473 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:05,639 Speaker 1: any level at any time. You're in the freedom hud. 1474 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:15,040 Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Look, before the 1475 01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:21,439 Speaker 1: Me Too movement, women were not listened to whom we're 1476 01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:25,040 Speaker 1: telling what had happened to them. Since Me Too, women 1477 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:29,400 Speaker 1: are listened to. Now. I've heard Joe Biden's explanation. I 1478 01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,680 Speaker 1: think it's sufficient. I think he will be a great candidate. 1479 01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,080 Speaker 1: I think he will be a great president, and I 1480 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 1: think he'll take us to help us take back the Senate. Ah, 1481 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,360 Speaker 1: Chuck schumerway's in here with Before the Me too movement, 1482 01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 1: women were not listened to. Now they are listened to. 1483 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,559 Speaker 1: But I mean, we've heard enough about this terror read person. 1484 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,559 Speaker 1: Let's move on. Oh man, he is he is always 1485 01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:55,559 Speaker 1: so predictable, consistent, at least in his sliminess. But let's 1486 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,479 Speaker 1: talk about where the terror read allegations currently stand, and 1487 01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 1: also the Biden candidacy overall and the politics of the moment. 1488 01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,519 Speaker 1: For that, we are joined by our friend Tiana Lowe. 1489 01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,680 Speaker 1: She is a commentary writer at The Washington Examiner and 1490 01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,960 Speaker 1: also a contributor to The First on Pluto TV. Tina, 1491 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,080 Speaker 1: thanks so much, Hi back, thanks for having me so. 1492 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,559 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer says, yeah, no, everyone's listened to now, but 1493 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:25,080 Speaker 1: tera read's been listened to, and he believes Joe Biden. Well, so, 1494 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,760 Speaker 1: how do we describe the standard now that Democrats are using? 1495 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,640 Speaker 1: Is there a standard? They can they define what the 1496 01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,000 Speaker 1: standard is? I mean, the only discernible standard, right, now 1497 01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 1: is whether or not you been d next to your name. 1498 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,200 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, let's just let's just add short summarize the 1499 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 1: evidence differentiating Christine Bausi Ford and Tera Read. With Christine 1500 01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,000 Speaker 1: Bazzi Ford, you had every single person who she named 1501 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,920 Speaker 1: it being at the party for this assault allegedly happened. 1502 01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,800 Speaker 1: They denied is such a party of her existed. The 1503 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:56,559 Speaker 1: earliest corroboration we have of her telling anyone about this 1504 01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,840 Speaker 1: alleged assault is in twenty twelve when Capitall was back 1505 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,599 Speaker 1: the news because he was on wrong these shortlist before 1506 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,479 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. If you look at terror Read allegation, 1507 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 1: you have multiple people with a few cooperative problems, who 1508 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,240 Speaker 1: say that she alleged that Biden had assaulted her at 1509 01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,080 Speaker 1: the time. But you have at least one person on 1510 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,160 Speaker 1: the record, her name or Linda Lcast, who's willing to 1511 01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,679 Speaker 1: say that she said so two or three years after 1512 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,360 Speaker 1: the fact, as well as an official document submitted by 1513 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,559 Speaker 1: her husband in response to overstraining order in nineteen ninety six, 1514 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,559 Speaker 1: So it's three years after the illegitisal claiming that Reed 1515 01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,559 Speaker 1: had undergone some traumatic harassment. At the very least, it's 1516 01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:38,519 Speaker 1: clear cut that red faced harassment from biting. The assault 1517 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 1: Thoughever has so much more corroboration than the Ford allegation 1518 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,599 Speaker 1: ever did. And the fact that Democrats are simply they're 1519 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,360 Speaker 1: even saying that they think that the evidence is insufficient, 1520 01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:52,240 Speaker 1: they're outrighteous saying that they just don't believe her. It's 1521 01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,400 Speaker 1: truly gross and it just goes to show how manipulative 1522 01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 1: and nasty this specific strain of so called feminism is, 1523 01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:04,000 Speaker 1: and just more general point of who the Democrats put 1524 01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,880 Speaker 1: forward to lead the country. You know, they wanted to 1525 01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,320 Speaker 1: make the case that Donald Trump was super and put 1526 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,439 Speaker 1: it put aside. We've all heard all the criticisms of 1527 01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,639 Speaker 1: Trump plenty in this regard and many others. But they 1528 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,760 Speaker 1: wanted to make the case to us that Trump was 1529 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,320 Speaker 1: deeply unethical, and they put forward Hillary Clinton. And then 1530 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:25,280 Speaker 1: they made the case that along with also that Donald Trump, 1531 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, the Billy Bush tapes and everything else. And 1532 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,800 Speaker 1: now here they are they have another chance to put 1533 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 1: someone forward to a post Donald Trump, and they put 1534 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,080 Speaker 1: up a guy who Joe Biden, who has corruption problems 1535 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,360 Speaker 1: with Barisma and Ukraine and his son. Whether it's illegal 1536 01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,960 Speaker 1: or not, it still looks really gross. It's very obvious 1537 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:44,400 Speaker 1: what happened. There has a credible allegation of sexual assault 1538 01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,880 Speaker 1: against him, and now it seems pretty clear the Democrats 1539 01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,320 Speaker 1: plan is to keep Joe Biden hidden away in the 1540 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,439 Speaker 1: basement until election day, Tina, is that is that their 1541 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,840 Speaker 1: best move given the realities of what we're seeing about 1542 01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, who's being tested in ways that he's never 1543 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,040 Speaker 1: been tested before. I mean, the scare thing is that 1544 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,600 Speaker 1: probably is their best move, just keeping him off the 1545 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,439 Speaker 1: campaign trail. You know, I said at the outset that 1546 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,400 Speaker 1: in the long run he would be best served by 1547 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:14,040 Speaker 1: radical transparency and addressing the read allegation to start with. Honestly, 1548 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,120 Speaker 1: the Barisma issue, the Hunter Biden stuff. I never thought 1549 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,559 Speaker 1: that was going to stick. No one thinks that Joe 1550 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,479 Speaker 1: Biden lacks any corruption. But he was supposed to be 1551 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 1: the personal decency candidate, whereas Trump ragged about grabbing women 1552 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,479 Speaker 1: by the you know what, Biden was supposed to be 1553 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,160 Speaker 1: the family man, the respectable man. That he didn't address 1554 01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,800 Speaker 1: this head on for over a month made it look 1555 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,920 Speaker 1: like he has something to hide, and now that he's 1556 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,280 Speaker 1: not opening up his University of Delaware archives, it still 1557 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,040 Speaker 1: looks like he's something to hide. I don't know if 1558 01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,000 Speaker 1: he does. I don't know if Para Reid is telling 1559 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,680 Speaker 1: the truth. But right now the evidence is quite disturbing, 1560 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,599 Speaker 1: and he is not acting like someone who wants to 1561 01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:53,040 Speaker 1: be immediately exonerated. So what's his best bet? Right now? 1562 01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,240 Speaker 1: About one third of all voters tend to believe that 1563 01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,479 Speaker 1: Tara Reid is telling the truth, and that includes a 1564 01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:02,280 Speaker 1: fifth of old Democrats. But still, you know, a lot 1565 01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,320 Speaker 1: of these people are going to vote for Biden anyway, 1566 01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,400 Speaker 1: but you know that might not be great for them, 1567 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,439 Speaker 1: but it does mean that Trump in a way is 1568 01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,640 Speaker 1: kind of inoculated from one of his biggest deficits, which 1569 01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,720 Speaker 1: is the character perception deficit. He no longer really is 1570 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,439 Speaker 1: to worry about. Oh now he's running against this moral 1571 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,400 Speaker 1: paragon with women, because quite frankly, I think that terror 1572 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 1: read allegation has tainted Biden's candidacy in a very serious way, 1573 01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:32,240 Speaker 1: especially among the suburban women who were crucial helping Democrats 1574 01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,519 Speaker 1: win the House in twenty eighteen. Yeah, and this is 1575 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,360 Speaker 1: also coming amidst a whole lot of other stuff about 1576 01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:42,360 Speaker 1: Biden that is not in question. I mean, the photos 1577 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:47,080 Speaker 1: of him sniffing people and kissing women's heads. And I mean, 1578 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,360 Speaker 1: he definitely is a grabby, weird guy with women and 1579 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,280 Speaker 1: has been for a long time. I don't think there's 1580 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,800 Speaker 1: really any dispute about that. I was told by a 1581 01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,840 Speaker 1: Secret Service agent who was present about what had been 1582 01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 1: written about Biden. I mean, I can ask you as 1583 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,840 Speaker 1: a as a woman, if you were in the Secret 1584 01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,400 Speaker 1: Service and your protectee in this case, Joe Biden found 1585 01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:11,160 Speaker 1: it to be a normal routine to go old man Biden. 1586 01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,760 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm just saying, I mean, you know, 1587 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,000 Speaker 1: I can't prevent people from visualizing because I got to 1588 01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,640 Speaker 1: describe a situation. But he would go swimming naked in 1589 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,560 Speaker 1: front of not just the Secret Service details its detailies, 1590 01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,519 Speaker 1: but female Secret Service detailies. If that were my wife 1591 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 1: or my girlfriend, I wouldn't think that's okay, that's just 1592 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,479 Speaker 1: a matter of record. Now, No, it's absolutely not. And 1593 01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,720 Speaker 1: again this is what I said last year when the 1594 01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,000 Speaker 1: initial Biden allegations, if we can really call them that, 1595 01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:39,960 Speaker 1: but you know, with the hair sniffing and the touching, 1596 01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,800 Speaker 1: we all know that's wrong. If we saw our grandparents 1597 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,520 Speaker 1: to that, we would correct them. We would not let 1598 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:50,640 Speaker 1: our dads, sneak random women's hair. But no, it is 1599 01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:52,920 Speaker 1: just a classic person in power. We just got away 1600 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,200 Speaker 1: with all of it for so long. Yeah, I mean, 1601 01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,000 Speaker 1: he's the he's the class. It's interesting because the Democrats, 1602 01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:02,120 Speaker 1: the woke leftist put forward the classic you know, the 1603 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:06,240 Speaker 1: the the sort of stereotype really of the um, you know, 1604 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:12,080 Speaker 1: power hungry, power mad white male who grabs it people 1605 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:17,040 Speaker 1: and abuses his position specifically for you know, gratification with 1606 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,800 Speaker 1: with the opposite sex. I mean that that's this guy. 1607 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,559 Speaker 1: Is This guy's like the you know, looking like the 1608 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:25,559 Speaker 1: Matt Lauer of the political world right now, and you know, 1609 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,760 Speaker 1: there's really they're just gonna you do. I'm sure you 1610 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,240 Speaker 1: saw the editorial in the New York Times, right I 1611 01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,000 Speaker 1: was like maybe a week or two ago where a 1612 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,599 Speaker 1: woman was like, oh, I totally believe her. I'm voting 1613 01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,400 Speaker 1: for Biden anyway. Oh so now you're just gonna vote 1614 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,479 Speaker 1: for a guy he's a sexual assault you know, I 1615 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:43,760 Speaker 1: actually don't believe like the allegation against Trump and Bergdorf Goodman, Like, 1616 01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,120 Speaker 1: I just don't think that the evidence was on that 1617 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:46,760 Speaker 1: woman's side. I forget her name now, the one who 1618 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,240 Speaker 1: wrote the book and came forward. But to say that 1619 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,360 Speaker 1: you believe it and you don't care, that's a whole 1620 01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,240 Speaker 1: other level that Democrats are hitting. Yeah no, I mean 1621 01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,920 Speaker 1: I seem to recall a big, huge hashtagging movement that 1622 01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,800 Speaker 1: he had to talk about how you know, rape is 1623 01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:05,000 Speaker 1: bad and we shouldn't reward sexual assailants with positions of power. 1624 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a whole thing, but apparently that 1625 01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,360 Speaker 1: was a very long time ago, and apparently it was 1626 01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,040 Speaker 1: just to make sure that we could say Orange Man 1627 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,080 Speaker 1: bad and pretend that we had a reckoning about Bill Clinton. 1628 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,120 Speaker 1: But you know, apparently it's over down, So that's it's 1629 01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,400 Speaker 1: quite unfortunate. Why are you gonna have we gotta have 1630 01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,519 Speaker 1: you have a zoom throw down with some radical left 1631 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,519 Speaker 1: wing feminists on this issue. That would be some really, 1632 01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,439 Speaker 1: that would be a good debate. There's never good debates anymore. 1633 01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,240 Speaker 1: It's everyone's just you know, preaching to the choir. Nobody 1634 01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,280 Speaker 1: will leave because this would be really interesting. Yeah no, 1635 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,680 Speaker 1: And I think that someone who's been pretty fair and 1636 01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:39,080 Speaker 1: pretty sympathetic to not only Biden just but but specifically 1637 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,920 Speaker 1: conservatives entertaining Biden's candidacy. But the Tea read thing, I mean, 1638 01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:46,600 Speaker 1: that's kind of the last strong. If you're going to 1639 01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:50,200 Speaker 1: vote against tax cuts and judges and an agenda that 1640 01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:54,120 Speaker 1: you like because you want to vote any referendum against 1641 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,080 Speaker 1: Trump's character, you don't do it for the guy who's 1642 01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,759 Speaker 1: running away from a credible sexual a solilogy. Fair point, 1643 01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,360 Speaker 1: Tiana Low. Everybody check out her latest at the Washington 1644 01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,640 Speaker 1: Examiner dot com. Also look for her here as a 1645 01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,880 Speaker 1: contributor on the First Tianna. Thanks Tina, thanks so much. 1646 01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:14,440 Speaker 1: Thanks thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcast. 1647 01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,320 Speaker 1: Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcast, the iHeart Radio app, 1648 01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:25,599 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. The show ain't over yet, folks. 1649 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:43,360 Speaker 1: Keeping it real, It's time for roll call up, bad 1650 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:44,960 Speaker 1: at Up. I haven't done that for a while. I 1651 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,240 Speaker 1: thought producer Mark might miss it, so I wanted to 1652 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,080 Speaker 1: bring back when I sing along with the roll call. 1653 01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,479 Speaker 1: One thing I will not thanks for the clarifications with 1654 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,240 Speaker 1: no problem um. One thing I will tell you about 1655 01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,040 Speaker 1: having a dog that's your main companion. I do get 1656 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,080 Speaker 1: to see this, no princess sometimes during the week, but 1657 01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,000 Speaker 1: not all the time. Those probably go nuts having to 1658 01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,599 Speaker 1: deal with me twenty four seven and close quarters like this. Oh, 1659 01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,840 Speaker 1: I guess that's called for some people. That's marriage, is it? 1660 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:13,200 Speaker 1: You live together, that's the whole thing. But yeah, when 1661 01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:14,559 Speaker 1: you have a dog run you all the time. I 1662 01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,160 Speaker 1: find that you start you come up with new names 1663 01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:19,160 Speaker 1: for the dog, and then you also start singing stupid 1664 01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,120 Speaker 1: songs to the dog. And I wonder if at some 1665 01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,120 Speaker 1: point the dog is like, what what has happened to 1666 01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,760 Speaker 1: my human? You know they do have I'm telling you, 1667 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,960 Speaker 1: this dog, this little French bulldog, has got at least 1668 01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,160 Speaker 1: the cognitive ability of like a like a two or 1669 01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:35,240 Speaker 1: a three year old human. I mean she she understands words, 1670 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,120 Speaker 1: She knows her name when it said, I mean she 1671 01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:40,880 Speaker 1: can she There's there's thought process that goes into this. 1672 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,759 Speaker 1: If I ever, you know, tell her no or naughty 1673 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,559 Speaker 1: or something, she punishes me by staring into the corner 1674 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,240 Speaker 1: and not wanting to hang out for a while. So 1675 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:50,519 Speaker 1: you know, you learn things here, you did say a 1676 01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,360 Speaker 1: producer market know there's been a big surge. I just 1677 01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:56,240 Speaker 1: looked this up yesterday again. Um, this the one. You know, 1678 01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,240 Speaker 1: we look for those little silver linings as such as 1679 01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,960 Speaker 1: they exist in this current debak goal and you know, 1680 01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,000 Speaker 1: catastrophe as it plays out across the country. But a 1681 01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,519 Speaker 1: lot of shelters are have seen a huge increase in 1682 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,600 Speaker 1: adoptions of dogs and cats, which makes sense. And a 1683 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,200 Speaker 1: lot of people are fostering animals right now just because 1684 01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:14,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna be home now, but they won't be home 1685 01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,880 Speaker 1: in the future. Yeah, yeah, And so instead of animals 1686 01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,840 Speaker 1: being in cages, they're home with people and they're getting 1687 01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, better, better access to care and cuddles. All right, 1688 01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,160 Speaker 1: Kevin kicking us off in roll Call. Remember if you 1689 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:29,679 Speaker 1: want to be a part of Roll Call, we always 1690 01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,000 Speaker 1: hope you do. We'd love to get some new voices 1691 01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,519 Speaker 1: in the mix too. First time, you know, you can 1692 01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,599 Speaker 1: put in the subject line instead of I love producer 1693 01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,080 Speaker 1: Mark or producer Mark, you're hilarious, which will usually be 1694 01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,240 Speaker 1: a good way to get yourself into Roll Call. You 1695 01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,320 Speaker 1: can also write in the subject you know, first time, 1696 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,800 Speaker 1: first time roll Call. And then we'll try to make 1697 01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:48,519 Speaker 1: sure that people that have never gotten a chance to 1698 01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:52,599 Speaker 1: have their voice on the show will be on the show. 1699 01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:57,440 Speaker 1: So Teambucket, iHeartMedia dot com or Facebook dot com, slash 1700 01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,800 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton and like I said, some of you have 1701 01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:01,960 Speaker 1: found me on Instagram, which is great. It's just Buck Sexton. 1702 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:03,479 Speaker 1: Just remember that if you send it a message, you 1703 01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:06,200 Speaker 1: got to say, you know, four roll, you know, roll call, 1704 01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,639 Speaker 1: and then your name and then you can write your message. 1705 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:13,479 Speaker 1: Otherwise you know, it's it's you know, cat cat lover 1706 01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,519 Speaker 1: five two five nine or something sending me a message 1707 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,519 Speaker 1: And I'm like, is this a person or is this 1708 01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:23,800 Speaker 1: some is this some Russian bott The election all right, 1709 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:28,639 Speaker 1: Kevin Buck, The people elected Donald Trump. The Democrat coup failed. 1710 01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,479 Speaker 1: Now the DNC strategy has shifted to making we the 1711 01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,479 Speaker 1: people suffer until we throw him out? How far does 1712 01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:38,000 Speaker 1: this go? The left is evil wolves in sheep's clothing. 1713 01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,679 Speaker 1: Speaking of clothing, where's the buck sex in apparel line? 1714 01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:42,280 Speaker 1: I went to BUCKSX and dot com hoping to find 1715 01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:46,720 Speaker 1: a producer mark T shirt, but no joy shields eye. Um. 1716 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,559 Speaker 1: We we're we are hoping to do that. We have 1717 01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:53,280 Speaker 1: a limited bandwidth because of all the content we currently do, 1718 01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:55,000 Speaker 1: and and that's just a big way of saying we 1719 01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,400 Speaker 1: need more staff. I mean, right now, it's we're we're 1720 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,200 Speaker 1: already running on a on what you would consider for 1721 01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,760 Speaker 1: a nationally syndicated show with as many listeners as we have. 1722 01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:08,160 Speaker 1: We're at a skeleton crew every day so uh yeah, 1723 01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:09,880 Speaker 1: although I don't feel like a skeleton these days with 1724 01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:11,840 Speaker 1: all the mac and cheese I've been eating, and with 1725 01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:16,000 Speaker 1: the and with the big bowl of carbonara. That's no 1726 01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:19,000 Speaker 1: princess made for me from scratch, gluten free. I've been 1727 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,960 Speaker 1: eating it for breakfast. I gotta tell your producing mark 1728 01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,880 Speaker 1: carbonar pasta for breakfast. It's got bacon in it makes 1729 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:28,599 Speaker 1: perfect sense. Have you finally started heating it up? Yeah? 1730 01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:30,000 Speaker 1: She was like, she looked at me, and she's like, 1731 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:31,720 Speaker 1: it's kind of savage. You know, you're eating it out 1732 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,479 Speaker 1: of a giant metal bowl from the fridge. Cold is 1733 01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:37,160 Speaker 1: one word for it. I was gonna go with sad. 1734 01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:39,599 Speaker 1: I mean it was delicious. What do you mean sad? 1735 01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,200 Speaker 1: It tastes fantastic. I'm kidding me. Cold pasta is a 1736 01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,880 Speaker 1: great Oh, it's amazing. I get into it. But yeah, 1737 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:48,720 Speaker 1: I did start heating it up. I'm a little more 1738 01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,720 Speaker 1: civilized now. But have you I will? What did you 1739 01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:53,920 Speaker 1: tell him? What is the favorite pasta? What's the number? 1740 01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:58,960 Speaker 1: What does your go to producer? Mark? Pasta? Mac and cheese? Okay, 1741 01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,080 Speaker 1: but like you're an Italian restaurant, you can't order mac 1742 01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,439 Speaker 1: and cheef. I mean you never know. I mean, I 1743 01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:06,840 Speaker 1: guess if I'm in an Italian place, Penny Allavadca. It's funny, 1744 01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:09,519 Speaker 1: said I was. Actually I watched a video on how 1745 01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:10,920 Speaker 1: to make that reason I want to I want to 1746 01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,160 Speaker 1: make it from scratch. Not that hard, not really that hard. 1747 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:14,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's very easy when you go and get 1748 01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,880 Speaker 1: a jar of sauce from the grocery store and pour 1749 01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:21,280 Speaker 1: it over some buzta. Just you know, Producer Mark, we're 1750 01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,240 Speaker 1: gonna get you cooking. We're good to get you cooking. 1751 01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,240 Speaker 1: And Missus Mark, Missus Mark is gonna come home from 1752 01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,000 Speaker 1: from her work in the healthcare industry, and you're gonna 1753 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,519 Speaker 1: have laid out like a beautiful from scratch Penney Alivadka feast, 1754 01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,280 Speaker 1: and you'll even have, you know, like a little guy 1755 01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:39,800 Speaker 1: playing the guitar like a lady in the tramp. You know, 1756 01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:42,720 Speaker 1: I don't think any of that's gonna happen. Considering she's 1757 01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,360 Speaker 1: a much better cook and she enjoys it. Well, then 1758 01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:47,400 Speaker 1: you're a lucky man. And there we have it. So 1759 01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,679 Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you want a surpriser for the birthday 1760 01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,840 Speaker 1: once Producer Mark's birthday, we gotta get this one. It 1761 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,240 Speaker 1: was a month ago. Well, happy birthday from a month ago. 1762 01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:00,120 Speaker 1: You literally did a minute on wishing me a happy birthday. 1763 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,320 Speaker 1: I do a lot of radio. Really have the memory 1764 01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:06,040 Speaker 1: of a fish. Sometimes it's all just just cram. Now 1765 01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:07,640 Speaker 1: I realized I did. I the whole thing. I can 1766 01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,599 Speaker 1: tell you like, oh yeah, my birthday is tomorrow, Buck, 1767 01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:11,760 Speaker 1: and you would have believed, Oh my god, I did. 1768 01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,040 Speaker 1: I have the cram so much information, and it's like 1769 01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing final exams every day and I got nothing. 1770 01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:19,040 Speaker 1: I got nothing left the snow Princess. Sometimes it is like, 1771 01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:20,559 Speaker 1: you know, you told me that story yesterday. I'm like, 1772 01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what stories I've told. I don't know 1773 01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just so much radio, all right, 1774 01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,800 Speaker 1: John Buck. I don't know how involved Obama was in 1775 01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,400 Speaker 1: the whole Russia conspiracy. I don't know how involved he 1776 01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:34,800 Speaker 1: was with Flynn, But at this point, no one can 1777 01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,600 Speaker 1: convince me he wasn't involved. I believe he was in 1778 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,519 Speaker 1: the background, often possibly even calling some of the shots, 1779 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,960 Speaker 1: but there would be more evidence leading back to the 1780 01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,519 Speaker 1: White House if he was hands on. But there is 1781 01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:47,640 Speaker 1: no way, especially with all that we know now, that 1782 01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:53,479 Speaker 1: he wasn't involved to some degree. John, Yeah, that's you 1783 01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:55,760 Speaker 1: and I. You and I agree on this one. There's 1784 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,760 Speaker 1: no way that Obama wasn't at least aware of this 1785 01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:01,040 Speaker 1: and that this didn't set off enormous alarm bells and 1786 01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,760 Speaker 1: all kinds of red flags. You're gonna you're gonna have 1787 01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:07,240 Speaker 1: your people go after the incoming You would operate under 1788 01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:10,760 Speaker 1: a we can't share all the national security information that 1789 01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:14,160 Speaker 1: we have with the new national security apparatus of a 1790 01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:18,840 Speaker 1: duly elected president and his administration. That's that's stunning. That 1791 01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,200 Speaker 1: is coo like stuff. I mean, that's not the coup itself, 1792 01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,600 Speaker 1: but that's if you're preparing for a coup later, you 1793 01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:26,479 Speaker 1: would do that, or if you had been preparing for 1794 01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,639 Speaker 1: a coup before, you don't want him to find out. 1795 01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:31,840 Speaker 1: Soft coup using the law. But that's you know, using 1796 01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:36,280 Speaker 1: some variant of legal interpretation. Oh, you know, Trump colluded 1797 01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,839 Speaker 1: with Russia. He's a trader. He can't be the president. 1798 01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:40,840 Speaker 1: You know, let's go have the sergeant at Arms of 1799 01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,240 Speaker 1: Congress arrest I you know, whatever crazy dream the libs 1800 01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,120 Speaker 1: we're thinking they were gonna, or just have the Obama 1801 01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,400 Speaker 1: administration say sorry, we have to hold a new election. 1802 01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:50,599 Speaker 1: And who knows what they were really thinking. They sit 1803 01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,880 Speaker 1: around talking about Trump's not going to willingly leave office 1804 01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,439 Speaker 1: all the time. There's been no reason to believe that. 1805 01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:56,920 Speaker 1: They also said that he was a fascist for the 1806 01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,760 Speaker 1: first two years. And now here we are where you 1807 01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:03,360 Speaker 1: have a situation. You could not dream of a bigger 1808 01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:06,120 Speaker 1: opening for fascism in America than what we are seeing 1809 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,200 Speaker 1: happen right now, where if you disagree with government policy, 1810 01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:13,240 Speaker 1: you're literally killing people. By wanting to go outside and 1811 01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,640 Speaker 1: live your life, you are literally killing people. That's what 1812 01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:19,360 Speaker 1: they're telling you. Biggest opening for fascism you could ever see. 1813 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,280 Speaker 1: And Donald Trump is like, okay, let's work together. Let's 1814 01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,320 Speaker 1: give the states autonomy. What are the experts saying, let's 1815 01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:27,840 Speaker 1: inform the public, you know, let's get reopened, let's get 1816 01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,600 Speaker 1: people up and running on the economy. The opposite of 1817 01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:34,519 Speaker 1: a fascist approach. But do you think any of them 1818 01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,000 Speaker 1: apologize for that or say I was wrong. I shouldn't 1819 01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,960 Speaker 1: have said that about the president? Of course not. It's people. 1820 01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,360 Speaker 1: It's these lib journals that trash trash, I tell you, 1821 01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:46,920 Speaker 1: Oh wow, here we go, Scott rites, dear buck. I'm 1822 01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:50,760 Speaker 1: an essential rider in the share ride driver in the 1823 01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,960 Speaker 1: Denver metro area, and as happens, we sometimes hear how 1824 01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,160 Speaker 1: life is treating our customers well. First off, thanks to 1825 01:37:56,240 --> 01:38:00,519 Speaker 1: ninety three seven Freedom FM in Denver, one of our 1826 01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,200 Speaker 1: great stations we do. We are number one on our 1827 01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:06,080 Speaker 1: time slot there. We're doing so well. Thank you to 1828 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,479 Speaker 1: team Buck in the Denver area for listening to the show. 1829 01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,000 Speaker 1: You guys are making Mark and Me look good to 1830 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,000 Speaker 1: our bosses all the time, So thank you for tuning 1831 01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:14,840 Speaker 1: in and making this a such a hit show in 1832 01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,479 Speaker 1: that area. I picked a man up and when I 1833 01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:19,479 Speaker 1: asked him how life was for him during the lockdown, 1834 01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:23,200 Speaker 1: he proceeded to recount his recent financial status. He said 1835 01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,519 Speaker 1: he got laid off from his restaurant job, but received 1836 01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,400 Speaker 1: his tax refund and his stimulus check, so he was 1837 01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:32,200 Speaker 1: feeling pretty secure. He started receiving unemployment, which was more 1838 01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:35,440 Speaker 1: per week than he was making while working at the restaurant. 1839 01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,080 Speaker 1: Just when he thought life was good, it got even better. 1840 01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,479 Speaker 1: His old employer called and asked him to come back 1841 01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:42,479 Speaker 1: to work and said that he would receive back pay, 1842 01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:44,800 Speaker 1: but he had to say he had been working all 1843 01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,400 Speaker 1: long if anyone asked, oh, and they were going to 1844 01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:49,160 Speaker 1: pay him for forty hours, but he only had to 1845 01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:52,120 Speaker 1: work twenty At that point. With a nice raise, he 1846 01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,560 Speaker 1: was making more than his unemployment compensation, and he was 1847 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,599 Speaker 1: happy to be contributing to society again. He was happier 1848 01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:59,880 Speaker 1: still this week when his boss told him that not 1849 01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,320 Speaker 1: enough of his former workmates wanted to come back to work, 1850 01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:04,720 Speaker 1: so they had to give him another big raise. To 1851 01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:06,679 Speaker 1: his credit, the young man said he's making more money 1852 01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:08,080 Speaker 1: than he ever has in his life, but he didn't 1853 01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:12,799 Speaker 1: feel great about it. Shield's high, Scott. This is working 1854 01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,240 Speaker 1: the system. This is what's going to happen. People are 1855 01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:18,960 Speaker 1: going to work the system, big companies, individuals, you know 1856 01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,320 Speaker 1: that everyone just feels like the federal governments now that 1857 01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,439 Speaker 1: the piggy bank has been broken open, how many coins 1858 01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,480 Speaker 1: are you going to get for yourself? That's the attitude. 1859 01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:28,880 Speaker 1: It's a free for all. You're going to see a 1860 01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,880 Speaker 1: lot of this. And as far as the Democrats are concerned, 1861 01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:35,400 Speaker 1: as long as their constituencies are getting paid off, and 1862 01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,960 Speaker 1: as long as this is enlarging government, increasing the debt 1863 01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:44,799 Speaker 1: and making they're you know, effectively making the government's authority 1864 01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:46,639 Speaker 1: feel like it's permanent in this regard that they can 1865 01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:50,280 Speaker 1: just create what would be a universal basic income. I mean, 1866 01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:51,880 Speaker 1: if we can do this for six months or a year, 1867 01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:53,800 Speaker 1: giving people money to stay home, why can't we give 1868 01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,240 Speaker 1: people anyone who stays all money. Why not just give 1869 01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,160 Speaker 1: everyone direct payments? Fifteen thousand dollars a month, fifteen hundred 1870 01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,720 Speaker 1: dollars a month. We're running up so many trillions of 1871 01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,840 Speaker 1: dollars in dead and it's all going to the corporations, 1872 01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:09,040 Speaker 1: they say, So, what is the response to this? Yeah, 1873 01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:13,400 Speaker 1: Michael hey Buck, I have two questions related to Governor 1874 01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,479 Speaker 1: Cuomo labeling the WU flu as being caused by a 1875 01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,360 Speaker 1: European virus. One, when the President refers to the virus 1876 01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:22,439 Speaker 1: as a Chinese virus he has labeled as racist, So 1877 01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:27,599 Speaker 1: wouldn't be labeling that European also be considered racist? I'll 1878 01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,000 Speaker 1: answer that first. No, because it's not possible to be 1879 01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:33,840 Speaker 1: racist against Europeans, the left would say, or at least 1880 01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:36,680 Speaker 1: not possibly racist against white Europeans. There is no such 1881 01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,639 Speaker 1: thing as anti white racism, the left says, And there's 1882 01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:43,040 Speaker 1: no such thing as anti white European racism. The left 1883 01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:48,920 Speaker 1: also holds to that. Yeah, that's what they believe. So 1884 01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,920 Speaker 1: what is animus against people for white skin called we 1885 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,240 Speaker 1: don't really have a word for it. They don't believe 1886 01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:57,200 Speaker 1: that it can even even happen, which inherently means they 1887 01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,120 Speaker 1: must think that animus against people for being white. The 1888 01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:03,040 Speaker 1: left has to believe if you just logically work this 1889 01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:08,000 Speaker 1: problem through that animus that any person has, including really 1890 01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:09,920 Speaker 1: a sort of self animus, right, the people that have 1891 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,280 Speaker 1: white killed. But anyone who has a problem with somebody 1892 01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,320 Speaker 1: else because of their white skin, or thinks less of them, 1893 01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,120 Speaker 1: or thinks that they have benefited from society in ways 1894 01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:20,960 Speaker 1: that they can't. That belief against white people has to 1895 01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:26,240 Speaker 1: be inherently justified by bye history, by current systemic oppression, 1896 01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,519 Speaker 1: and raise whatever it is. But they don't believe that 1897 01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:30,640 Speaker 1: it's possible. And I'm serious, this is a belief on 1898 01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:32,240 Speaker 1: the left. They don't think it is possible to have 1899 01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:36,320 Speaker 1: anti white racism. That's not possible. Now that gets tested 1900 01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:39,320 Speaker 1: sometimes in the courts when you have attacks on individuals 1901 01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:41,320 Speaker 1: who are or white because they're white, and is that 1902 01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:42,920 Speaker 1: a hate crime? Can that be a hate crime? The 1903 01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,320 Speaker 1: answer is yes, although authorities are usually very slow to 1904 01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:50,240 Speaker 1: charge that one. All right, Number two, since it is 1905 01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,479 Speaker 1: racist to mention the source of the virus or a pandemic. 1906 01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:55,320 Speaker 1: Can we celebrate Columbus Day this year, especially since the 1907 01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:58,120 Speaker 1: greatest minds of the fifteenth century had no idea how 1908 01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:01,200 Speaker 1: viruses and bacteria were transmitted and how they not bad 1909 01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:04,679 Speaker 1: vapors cause disease. Only hoping we can regain some sanity 1910 01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:11,040 Speaker 1: and our discussions masks high. Um, since it is racist, Oh, 1911 01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:16,240 Speaker 1: because Columbus brought the explores you kind of mark, You're right, 1912 01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:18,640 Speaker 1: this was a little bit of a couple of leaps here, right. 1913 01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:22,800 Speaker 1: So it's because Columbus and the Europeans brought brought you know, 1914 01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:25,880 Speaker 1: virus and flew and other things into the New World, 1915 01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,840 Speaker 1: which decimated the native population here. We're not allowed to 1916 01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:32,800 Speaker 1: talk about that because it's racist kind of for them, right, Yeah. 1917 01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,479 Speaker 1: I mean you're the history guy, so I would just 1918 01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:36,120 Speaker 1: say yeah, but that's that's what he's trying to say, 1919 01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,880 Speaker 1: I believe. So, yes, yeah, a little bit, Michael, I 1920 01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,759 Speaker 1: see what you're saying. Creative, A little bit of a stretch, 1921 01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:44,800 Speaker 1: A little bit of a stretch. Um. You know, Columbus 1922 01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:50,000 Speaker 1: Day in Italian on behalf of the Spaniards. But you 1923 01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,840 Speaker 1: know that's uh, I actually you know I'm not I'm 1924 01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:54,639 Speaker 1: not too far. I can. I can get to Columbus 1925 01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:56,840 Speaker 1: Circle pretty easily. And I think it's gonna tell you 1926 01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,000 Speaker 1: one day, they're gonna pull that statue down. They're gonna manage. 1927 01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't mean they're gonna actual just destroy it, although 1928 01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,400 Speaker 1: they might do that too, but they're gonna get rid 1929 01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:05,160 Speaker 1: of it, and they're gonna want to rename the circle 1930 01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:09,599 Speaker 1: Columbus is marked for is marked for history book extinction. 1931 01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:14,760 Speaker 1: They're they're going to find a way. You're in the 1932 01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:22,400 Speaker 1: freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. More 1933 01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:26,719 Speaker 1: roll Call rolling through here. Um. TJ writes Buck, there's 1934 01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:30,360 Speaker 1: no doubt that Flynn should be further vindicated. Do you 1935 01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:34,280 Speaker 1: think Trump may be holding that vindication to campaign on 1936 01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:38,280 Speaker 1: I e. Trump speaking, if re elected, I will appoint 1937 01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:42,520 Speaker 1: wrongly accused and set up by the administration Obama administration 1938 01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:46,840 Speaker 1: General Flynn to such and such a position. Just a thought, Um, 1939 01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean, TJ. I can't. I can't tell you that 1940 01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:55,080 Speaker 1: that won't happen, but I think that's pretty unlikely. I 1941 01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:56,960 Speaker 1: don't think that that's the case, although I will note 1942 01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,840 Speaker 1: that it feels like they've been very there's been a 1943 01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:07,080 Speaker 1: real slowness for the release of information that we should 1944 01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:09,760 Speaker 1: we should have here, you know that we should be 1945 01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:14,680 Speaker 1: we should have known. You know, That's what I think. 1946 01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:17,640 Speaker 1: You know, the release of classified stuff that should have 1947 01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:19,800 Speaker 1: been declassified and released the public should have been faster. 1948 01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:25,720 Speaker 1: Murtrump was going to put out the FISA applications declassify 1949 01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:27,960 Speaker 1: them a lot earlier than he did, and by the 1950 01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:29,600 Speaker 1: time they got out, I don't think they had the 1951 01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:31,360 Speaker 1: same impact they would have if we had known about 1952 01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:33,559 Speaker 1: it sooner, and the Democrats were able to run around 1953 01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:37,000 Speaker 1: and say they're crazy stuff for quite a while. We 1954 01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:39,840 Speaker 1: got another sea another from ninety three seven FM Denver, 1955 01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:44,000 Speaker 1: You know Freedom ninety three seven, Hey Buck, Hello from Denver. 1956 01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:46,679 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that I find it funny 1957 01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:48,759 Speaker 1: that the Democrats refused to give any type of temporary 1958 01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,000 Speaker 1: tax cut and at the same time they want to 1959 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,439 Speaker 1: give every American two thousand dollars a month through the election. 1960 01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,960 Speaker 1: Obviously something stinks here. They want everyone to know that 1961 01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:59,759 Speaker 1: they are giving you back your tax money for November 1962 01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:03,280 Speaker 1: election purposes. Just a thought, thank you for your voice 1963 01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:08,240 Speaker 1: shields high well, thank you, Greg. And Yeah, Democrats like 1964 01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:10,240 Speaker 1: to hand out goodies that are really just things they've 1965 01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:12,120 Speaker 1: taken from other people, and they pretend like this such 1966 01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,400 Speaker 1: they're so great and generous in the process. That's a 1967 01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:20,920 Speaker 1: common theme. Glynnette, Hey, bucking producer, Mark, My name is Glennette's. 1968 01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:23,200 Speaker 1: We've figured that one out. I've just been listening for 1969 01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:24,920 Speaker 1: a few months, but really enjoy the show. Well, thank 1970 01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,479 Speaker 1: you so much, Glennette. We appreciate you listening. It's refreshing 1971 01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:29,240 Speaker 1: to hear a conservative viewpoint, and it's the sea of 1972 01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:31,880 Speaker 1: liberal propaganda. I also laugh out loud every time I 1973 01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:35,519 Speaker 1: hear your Nancy Pelosi imitation. A little while back, Hey, 1974 01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,559 Speaker 1: how do you pay up? A C. S. Lewis quote? 1975 01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,559 Speaker 1: I have been reading his book Mere Christianity and thought 1976 01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,519 Speaker 1: this quote really describes the liberals at this point. It says, 1977 01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:45,120 Speaker 1: the most dangerous thing you can do is to take 1978 01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:47,439 Speaker 1: any one impulse of your own nature and set it 1979 01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:49,320 Speaker 1: up as a thing you ought to follow at all costs. 1980 01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,040 Speaker 1: There is not one of them which will not make 1981 01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:53,960 Speaker 1: us into devils if we set it up as an 1982 01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,120 Speaker 1: absolute guide. You might think love of humanity in general 1983 01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,799 Speaker 1: was safe, but it is not. If you leave out justice, 1984 01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:02,719 Speaker 1: you will find yourself breaking agreements and faking evidence in trials. 1985 01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,200 Speaker 1: For the sake of humanity and become in the end, 1986 01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:08,160 Speaker 1: a cruel and treacherous man. That's a really interesting quote. 1987 01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:11,200 Speaker 1: That's very good. Thank you so much for sharing that. 1988 01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:13,240 Speaker 1: Keep up the good work. Come to Colorado when you 1989 01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,559 Speaker 1: can escape New York. Shields high. Well, Glennette, I might 1990 01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:17,479 Speaker 1: have to move to Colorado then. Verse sounds lovely this 1991 01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:20,160 Speaker 1: time of year. We'll talk more about that another time. Team, 1992 01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,200 Speaker 1: it has been real, it has been fantastic. I'll be 1993 01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,280 Speaker 1: back with you tomorrow. As we do every day, keep 1994 01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:28,720 Speaker 1: yourself safe, keep yourself positive, Shields High.