Speaker 1: Welcome to Night Call, a production of My Heart Radio.
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Speaker 1: to night Call. Hello, and welcome back to Night Call,
Speaker 1: a podcast for your strange days and lonely nights. I'm
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. I am Tess Lynch and with me
Speaker 1: is Molly Lambert, and we have no Emily because she
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Speaker 1: home Alone, Little Shop of Horrors as another part of
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about a little journey. I took to a
Speaker 1: land far far away, folks. I'm talking about Star Wars Land.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're talking alone Galaxy's Edge. Well, there's also
Speaker 1: kind of a Star Wars crawl. At the beginning of
Speaker 1: Little Shop of Horse. I went to Disneyland for the
Speaker 1: first time in a year, I guess. And in that
Speaker 1: year they finished and opened Star Wars Land Galaxy's Edge,
Speaker 1: and I felt like I wanted to review it on
Speaker 1: this podcast because it seems like something. Testart to ask
Speaker 1: me about it before we were recording, and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: we have to talk about it is fairly air. We
Speaker 1: usually chat before we record, and then every single interesting
Speaker 1: thing that comes up or save it for the pod,
Speaker 1: save it for the pod. Color like night talk show
Speaker 1: hosts exactly, um setting each other for the pre interview.
Speaker 1: I'm very curious. I'm waiting with bated breath. The spontaneity
Speaker 1: is all uh fakes. Podcast is scripted. It is you
Speaker 1: can tell you can tell it scripted to tell us
Speaker 1: about Star Wars. Okay, so Star Wars Land Galaxy's Edge.
Speaker 1: I didn't really know that much about it because I'm
Speaker 1: not a big Star Wars person. I'm obviously am a
Speaker 1: theme park and Disneyland uh nerd, not like the biggest nerd.
Speaker 1: It turns out you're just a fan. I just like
Speaker 1: themed areas and I like the idea. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: a postmodern nerd person from Los Angeles. Um, but Star
Speaker 1: Wars Land, I didn't really know what. I knew there
Speaker 1: was only one ride in It's so Far and that
Speaker 1: it's mostly restaurants and just sort of atmosphere, but didn't
Speaker 1: really know what the layout in terrain was actually like.
Speaker 1: So it turns out they decided to do it after
Speaker 1: a fictional Star Wars planet called Batu two A's I think, Um,
Speaker 1: I think this planet does appear, but only in Solo,
Speaker 1: a Star Wars movie, which shows you when they were
Speaker 1: conceptualizing this land before that movie did not do well
Speaker 1: for them. Um, but it's not I guess where the
Speaker 1: cantina is originally, but there is a cantina and did
Speaker 1: you eat there? Yes? I did, but okay, So I
Speaker 1: was like describing it to my boyfriend at home. I
Speaker 1: was like, it's Moroccan themed, but it's also brutalist and
Speaker 1: it's like, uh, sort of falling apart city, like a
Speaker 1: a city in decline that is between places, sort of
Speaker 1: like Casablanca, like a trading post. And also it's it's
Speaker 1: a trading post and like thieves and merriment planet subscription
Speaker 1: says um. And he said it sounds like Interzone from
Speaker 1: Naked Lunch, And I was like, oh my god, You're
Speaker 1: exactly right, that's exactly what it is, because Interzone and
Speaker 1: Naked Lunch is like the fictionalized Morocco that William Burrows
Speaker 1: writes about where it is like a Moroccan marketplace, like
Speaker 1: an open air marketplace. But also there's like bug aliens,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what Star Wars Land is. Are there,
Speaker 1: like the Star Wars bar, are the waiters and stuff
Speaker 1: scary bug alien people? No, okay, okay, but there's a
Speaker 1: there's an alien DJ who I guess is the former
Speaker 1: Star Tours robot. This this park is so weirdly conceived
Speaker 1: because it's like it's so fan service e to a
Speaker 1: certain type of Star Wars nerd that it feels sort
Speaker 1: of completely alienating to anyone else. Yeah, it's like very chaotic,
Speaker 1: it's very like grown up it's stuff. It does not
Speaker 1: feel child friendly at all. Is that because they serve alcohol? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so they know that they're like, this is for
Speaker 1: you alcohol in Pixar Peer in California Adventure that Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they st it isn't because the kids can also
Speaker 1: go in the cantina, like the bar has non alcoholic drinks.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's an interesting choice because it's like
Speaker 1: they chose the dirty future, the like dystopian crumbling city future.
Speaker 1: You know, I was telling you what we're telling you
Speaker 1: Emily about it, and she was like, sounds amazing. I'm
Speaker 1: all in, sounds like something I would love, And I like,
Speaker 1: I didn't dislike it. It was just like so different
Speaker 1: from what I expected because I thought I was like,
Speaker 1: I thought, like Tomorrowland, Tomorrowland is like the clean future.
Speaker 1: And then Tomorrowland kind of got run down and that
Speaker 1: was when it was the most interesting. Was it became
Speaker 1: the sort of most abandoned part of the park and
Speaker 1: that's where all the goths would hang out and like
Speaker 1: chain smoke, so it had a kind of like towld
Speaker 1: like a nighttime kind of nefarious for Disneyland feel, you know,
Speaker 1: that's sort of like, oh, this is like danger zone, right,
Speaker 1: like a real carnival, like a little sketchy in a
Speaker 1: way that's like fun and exciting. Um that you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to have a Disneyland, but this is like so weird.
Speaker 1: And another weird thing is they don't have any baby
Speaker 1: Yodas because they didn't plan, they didn't anticipate the baby
Speaker 1: Yoda rush, so there are people in a boardroom who
Speaker 1: are just so upset with the execution of this. Well,
Speaker 1: it's like a whole story that they decided to like
Speaker 1: like I think I just read that, like Donald Clover
Speaker 1: like convinced Jon Favreau to do it by being like,
Speaker 1: look at how Beyonce surprise drops albums, like you should
Speaker 1: surprise drop Baby Yoda, and like if you start the merchandising,
Speaker 1: people will know it's coming, I guess. But this was
Speaker 1: the wrong choice of because there's like, instead of selling
Speaker 1: baby Yodas and like baby it is in Santa hats
Speaker 1: and like so many baby Yoda should be everywhere, there's
Speaker 1: no baby Yoda. There's not even a regular Yoda really,
Speaker 1: and instead they're selling these like nightmarished dolls, what what
Speaker 1: kind of dolls, like of Star Wars creatures that I
Speaker 1: do not recognize because they are so obscure. I'll show
Speaker 1: you one picture. There was one that was amazing because
Speaker 1: it was like a pork, which I do know what
Speaker 1: that is. That's from Last Jedi Uh and those are cute.
Speaker 1: Those are the old baby Yoda that they put in
Speaker 1: the trash compactor after the new Baby Yoda came out here.
Speaker 1: I'll showing you now at this photograph, So it's a pork,
Speaker 1: and then I don't know what the middle one is.
Speaker 1: It's another like cutie pokemon. It's frowning. And then on
Speaker 1: the right there's like a butt hole with teeth and tentacle.
Speaker 1: It looks like a dog toy that's had better days.
Speaker 1: It also kind of looks like when you make a
Speaker 1: bird feeder by taking a pine cone and rolling it
Speaker 1: in everything. It's like a room with teeth. And then
Speaker 1: also all these like weird tentacles and it's like, is
Speaker 1: that plush, It's not like rubber. And then there was
Speaker 1: some other like weird just like weird random Star Wars
Speaker 1: characters that looked like dark crystal style, just like I
Speaker 1: was like, these are probably some eighties you know, some
Speaker 1: characters I don't know about. But even then I was
Speaker 1: like that was a weird choice. I was like, why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you just be front loading with like e walks
Speaker 1: and like cutie things. It's very like spiky, which is
Speaker 1: not inhospitable. It's inhospitable, and it's like confusing. It's like
Speaker 1: it is very immersive in that you don't see any
Speaker 1: of the rest of the park. And you just sort
Speaker 1: of It's located um in Critter by Critter County. Do
Speaker 1: you know where the Petting Zoo used to be over
Speaker 1: by Splash Mountain? Yes, yes, Splash Mountain listened to Karina
Speaker 1: Longworth's Song of the South. You must remember this series
Speaker 1: for more on Splash Mountain. Whole season now available. It's
Speaker 1: over by yeah, where Splash Mountain and the Country Bear
Speaker 1: Jamboree used to be. Where the Country Bear Jamboree. Uh
Speaker 1: lead over to Fantacy Land and there was like a
Speaker 1: barbecue place with some so they knocked that down and
Speaker 1: some office buildings in order to build Star Wars Land.
Speaker 1: It's a gigantic but there's only one ride in it,
Speaker 1: and that ride it's like an updated Star Tours. It's
Speaker 1: like Star Tours, but it's all like a video immersive
Speaker 1: thing and also well it's also sort of like it's
Speaker 1: like enders game. It's also like a military simulator kind
Speaker 1: of thing where you have to like shoot the guy
Speaker 1: the whole time, like buzz let your blasters or whatever. Um,
Speaker 1: And that was my job. I was a gunner and
Speaker 1: then I was like really good at it. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I have the killer instinct some too. Still
Speaker 1: there Star Toars isn't Tomorrowland still Okay? But doesn't that
Speaker 1: make it kind of redundant to have two of the
Speaker 1: simulator games? I mean kind of they're opening and I
Speaker 1: mean this is also like to get to the ride,
Speaker 1: you just walk down like a million sort of like
Speaker 1: storage facility feeling weird tunnels that all have like fake
Speaker 1: insulation coming out of them and fake like freed wires
Speaker 1: and stuff. You know, I like the Dirty Future, but
Speaker 1: this made me be like, oh, I like Space Mountain
Speaker 1: more than this Space Mountains the bomb still but wait,
Speaker 1: so are they is it still under construction? Well, they're
Speaker 1: opening another ride. So they built this like giant fake
Speaker 1: mountain ridge that is currently nothing, but they are turning
Speaker 1: it into a dark ride that is like a fifteen
Speaker 1: minute long dark ride, like the longest dark ride they've
Speaker 1: ever done. I think maybe Pirates of the Caribbean. It's
Speaker 1: also about fifteen minutes. And uh they have it open
Speaker 1: already in Orlando. Somebody, a friend of ours, Christina uh
Speaker 1: friend of the night Call pod, went on it and
Speaker 1: said it's really good. It has this like trackless uh
Speaker 1: ride system that they use. Now that's just controlled by WiFi.
Speaker 1: What could possibly minute ride is at? She said. The
Speaker 1: best part of the ride is there's like a slight
Speaker 1: saber comes at you from underneath through the floor. Spoiler
Speaker 1: spoiler erase from Yeah, but you know, it's like this
Speaker 1: giant It's also weird because it's just like a giant
Speaker 1: mountain and they're like, soon this will be your ride.
Speaker 1: Now it is just a giant fake mountain mountain. Can't
Speaker 1: you see in some of the pictures you posted on
Speaker 1: Instagram it looked like there was almost like scaffolding or
Speaker 1: something up for the ride or was that just that
Speaker 1: was part of the future, that was part of Haunted Mansion. Okay,
Speaker 1: because Haunted Mansion they're about to take off for a
Speaker 1: couple months to like fix it, which I was also
Speaker 1: thinking about a lot because of our puppets are decaying
Speaker 1: puppets conversation and talking about how puppets need to have
Speaker 1: their hair cut, because it gets like I can't stop
Speaker 1: thinking about me too, and and thinking about how like
Speaker 1: some of the attractions at Disneyland, you know, I haven't
Speaker 1: been updated probably since the sixties or seventies, and so
Speaker 1: but it is like it just reminds me of the
Speaker 1: construction in l A right now so much where it's
Speaker 1: like there's so much construction going on all the time
Speaker 1: that it's never not distracting because it's like something's always
Speaker 1: down and they're always like, look at the new thing
Speaker 1: we just build. Pay no attention to all the other
Speaker 1: rides you want to go on that like aren't working anymore,
Speaker 1: but we building. Um. I will also say the food
Speaker 1: at the cantina is like the weirdest choice of I
Speaker 1: didn't really eat it because it was like a meat
Speaker 1: and cheese plate, but I can't describe what happened, but
Speaker 1: it was like it's made to look like alien food.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, what does that mean? Like the thing that
Speaker 1: you can order is like a meat and cheese pla.
Speaker 1: There's like one thing on the menu cantina and that's it,
Speaker 1: and then like a snack or like a cookie. There's
Speaker 1: like a weird So they're just like, you're only here
Speaker 1: because this is the only place you can drink alcohol
Speaker 1: in the park, and there's like you can I think
Speaker 1: you can drink alcohol and other parts of Star Wars
Speaker 1: Land you can just maybe buy it it stands, but
Speaker 1: the cantina has like a year long wait to get in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's also just like a weird choice of
Speaker 1: things to have in a park. It's like an exclusive
Speaker 1: thing that has a small capacity. Go back to how
Speaker 1: it's alien food. Okay, I mean, so are their legs
Speaker 1: on the salami? No, but it's like instead of crackers,
Speaker 1: it's like a giant like shrimp chip kind of with
Speaker 1: like green powder on it, and like the cheese is
Speaker 1: all like brown or like a weird color you wouldn't expect,
Speaker 1: and like in a cube. It's just like something about
Speaker 1: it is like space food from the nineties. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's like they would serve it
Speaker 1: an American psycho exactly, like but in space like a
Speaker 1: little like yeah, but you could also see that being
Speaker 1: a yuppy food trend of just like it's all the
Speaker 1: meat is blue and green, right, but they don't eat
Speaker 1: meat in the future or in space, I think. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's also just weird because it's like what
Speaker 1: you want is like chicken fingers. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: they're trying to do something too weird. Which what if
Speaker 1: they had gone vegan and have like weird experimental vegan food. Well,
Speaker 1: they said they have some vegan food actually at one
Speaker 1: of the other restaurants in Star wars Land, because you
Speaker 1: think Star wars Land would be the place to have
Speaker 1: vegan food. Well, yeah, my friend knows all the vegan
Speaker 1: things in Disneyland, and one of them is the Pineapple
Speaker 1: the doll Whip technically and technically vegan. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just like it's it's strange, and it's like there's these
Speaker 1: ambient animatronics. These are the best thing, for sure. There
Speaker 1: are just sort of some like free floating animatronics in
Speaker 1: like the stores and the like main areas that you're
Speaker 1: walking around, and they're all so scary that they're so
Speaker 1: on brand for eighties Puppet Month because they're like specifically
Speaker 1: like terrifying, like latex oh dear weird things. There's like
Speaker 1: one thing in a store that looks like a hammerhead
Speaker 1: shark with like a testicle that has like teeth in it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, now eat your brown meat brown. She like
Speaker 1: it's very strange. Um. There's like this guy I'm showing you,
Speaker 1: I don't know his name, but there's like a little
Speaker 1: frogman who's just in a tank. I'm ashamed. We don't
Speaker 1: know this guy this guy. Really we should know this.
Speaker 1: There's some like subtle animatronics. He's the frog chameleon, snail'st him.
Speaker 1: He's my favorite. He's a cutie if you know the
Speaker 1: name of the frog cutie boy I met podcast the ride. Well,
Speaker 1: now he's like a cutie frog boy with tentnacle little
Speaker 1: what are those antennae? I'm an idiot. Um and he
Speaker 1: uh he lives in a tank in the cantina, and
Speaker 1: the cantina also plays they only play Jeez music, which
Speaker 1: is the type of music they have at at Disneyland.
Speaker 1: And it's like, here, look at this guy. I just
Speaker 1: want you to see this one because this is what
Speaker 1: I was like, who is this for? We will have
Speaker 1: to put oh oh dear right. So that's it looks
Speaker 1: like a camel with a whale's mouth on its neck, yes,
Speaker 1: and but also another mouth will at all. But it's
Speaker 1: also like silly putty color like if it was if
Speaker 1: it was green, it would be fine, but it's that
Speaker 1: kind of like that uncanny like silly putty flesh monster thing. Um.
Speaker 1: So star wars five out of five stars. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's one guy who turns a giant like tounton on
Speaker 1: a spit. That was another one where I was like,
Speaker 1: a child sees this, I have nightmares forever. I an
Speaker 1: adults see this and still think it's nightmarish, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what who is this for? It's like not like cute
Speaker 1: or enchanting or like magical provoking. There's also like it's
Speaker 1: very fascist feeling because there's like a brutal brutalist but
Speaker 1: there's all but brutalless isn't always fascist. I like brutalist.
Speaker 1: This is like there's just like a giant flag hung
Speaker 1: on some stuff. There's like hunk a junk, like a
Speaker 1: millennium falcon and like a big spaceship that's like crashed
Speaker 1: into the floor or whatever. And then there's like yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's like a giant flag hungover one dough And
Speaker 1: my friend was like, is that a Nazi flag? And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I don't know if it's resistance
Speaker 1: or Empire, but I'm guessing it's Empire because it just
Speaker 1: look it does look like a Nazi logo because it's
Speaker 1: a red flag with like the black sun on it basically,
Speaker 1: which is a Nazi logo. It's like an asterisk with
Speaker 1: a million points, you know, and it's just like on
Speaker 1: this giant concrete dome and it's pretty pretty intense yis um.
Speaker 1: And then there's like stormtroopers walking around. The Stormtrooper And
Speaker 1: when I last went to Disneyland and there were Stormtroopers there,
Speaker 1: a lot of children were crying at the stormtroopers. Some
Speaker 1: children love the Stormtroop devices. Friend Ian's kid loves the
Speaker 1: Stormtroopers and was really into the shirt that had all
Speaker 1: Stormtrooper faces that are the same and it's like the
Speaker 1: many emotions Stormtroopers and it's like sad, happy, and he
Speaker 1: kept being like, look at my shirt, isn't it funny?
Speaker 1: But they cater to that too in a weird way
Speaker 1: where they do kind of cater to like, hey, if
Speaker 1: you like the bad stuff, that's okay. So we did
Speaker 1: like a lightsaber ceremony where somebody got a lightsaber um
Speaker 1: and they give you like to choose from. It's like,
Speaker 1: if you want the blue and green ones, those are
Speaker 1: like the classic your classic Star Wars stars, but if
Speaker 1: you want to be the bad guy, they have like
Speaker 1: an Empire themed one. It's called power and Control. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, this is an acosticview. We if you have
Speaker 1: been to Star Wars Land, Please give us a night
Speaker 1: call and tell us more, because now I'm very intrigued.
Speaker 1: But I also Disneyland is too expensive to go to
Speaker 1: right now, so I'm not gonna go um, but Disneyland,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, pay us to us they want um.
Speaker 1: Speaking of things that disturbed children, let's take a night call.
Speaker 1: Fine night call. This is a constant listener who, just
Speaker 1: by coincidence, is Molly's dad, and it's also weeks behind.
Speaker 1: So I just heard you talking about lob. And the
Speaker 1: scariest thing I've ever seen at a movie was in
Speaker 1: the lobby of a movie theater when I was a
Speaker 1: little kid and my cut's got a troop got taken
Speaker 1: to see some movies and terrible movie. But the next
Speaker 1: attraction at the theater was the blob. And I knew
Speaker 1: this because in the lobby there was a big, big crate,
Speaker 1: a wooden crate, and it said the blob, do not touch.
Speaker 1: And coming out of the spaces in between the wood
Speaker 1: was this red jello e substance that was clearly the blob.
Speaker 1: I was so scared. That's my story. Bye, Wow, thanks Dad,
Speaker 1: a great night call. That was a great nightcall. Why
Speaker 1: are children so obsessed? With slime. They are, they've really
Speaker 1: come back into it. I mean, the blob is so
Speaker 1: scary because it's sentient slime. Yeah, or it's I don't
Speaker 1: even know. I mean, I guess it's sentient. It has
Speaker 1: to be. It has like motivations. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's really thinking the motivations through. I think some
Speaker 1: things the way that they think, it's just like expand expand,
Speaker 1: expand the whole the whole thought, that's their whole nature. Um.
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. It's funny too to think about
Speaker 1: seeing something like that for the first time and happening. Well,
Speaker 1: it's also kind of interesting how something high tech can
Speaker 1: pale in comparison to just a grown up deciding to
Speaker 1: put a bunch of slime in a crate and the
Speaker 1: don't touch. That's what we need, the scary part totally,
Speaker 1: that is. I think we've been talking about that all
Speaker 1: the time with Baby Yoda too. But I think that
Speaker 1: was also the thing with Star Wars Lands. I was like,
Speaker 1: a creative slime, yeah, would be both more magical. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need that creative slime. I wish. Even though it's
Speaker 1: not Star Wars, it's not actually from the star wars Land.
Speaker 1: But you know that the robot at l a X
Speaker 1: outside of that one restaurant, and that poor robot, that
Speaker 1: robot it is. It's such strong feelings in me of
Speaker 1: like I need to liberate the robot, like that robot's
Speaker 1: life sucks, not that it has a life, but whatever
Speaker 1: existences is terrible to me. And seeing people being rude
Speaker 1: to that robot makes me angry, which doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: It's not because it's a service worker. It does make sense.
Speaker 1: It's because you're like, they want to outsource all the
Speaker 1: like most degrading jobs, but also jobs that like people need,
Speaker 1: you know, they want to outstarce the working class or robots.
Speaker 1: And I think, but also I feel, I don't resent
Speaker 1: the robot. I empathize with the right. You're not like
Speaker 1: the robot took my job, my waitress job. You're like,
Speaker 1: the robot is also a waitress. Hey, Molly, it sounds
Speaker 1: almost like you're talking about capitalism. We watched a movie
Speaker 1: about capitalism. Let's talk about Little Shop of Horrors, Little Shop,
Speaker 1: Little Shop the Horror. It's a very good song, it's
Speaker 1: a very good film. It's a great film. So should
Speaker 1: we take a break and then come back. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: we come back, we'll be discussing Little Shop of Horrors
Speaker 1: and during the break we'll be singing, and we're back. Okay.
Speaker 1: So Molly had never seen this movie. It's one of
Speaker 1: those things that I assumed you had seen. I think
Speaker 1: I have such a lot of times on the pot,
Speaker 1: but I sort of missed the eighties. What were you
Speaker 1: doing reading books like a nerve? Oh? Come on? So
Speaker 1: was I. But like my parents were not into, like
Speaker 1: they were watching twin Peaks and stuff, and I would
Speaker 1: like see things that they saw, but I didn't. My
Speaker 1: entry point into like regular garbage was full house, which
Speaker 1: has to be nine. Not until kindergarten was I like, okay,
Speaker 1: I must see what the other kids are seeing. I
Speaker 1: was just like doing my own weird thing. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: makes sense, doing your own weird thing is. But I
Speaker 1: think my parents they saw a Little Shop before. Of
Speaker 1: course they did well. So when we talk about a
Speaker 1: Little Shop Before, as we are of course talking about
Speaker 1: the nineteen eight six film directed by Frank Oz, but
Speaker 1: there's also the two musical and the nineteen sixty what
Speaker 1: is It? Roger Roger Corman movie, which if you if
Speaker 1: you haven't seen that it's fun. But also you could
Speaker 1: just see the clip of Jack Nicholson singing in it,
Speaker 1: which is great, very young Jack Nicholson. Um, So this
Speaker 1: movie I saw. Maybe I don't think I could have
Speaker 1: seen it in the theater when I was three. I
Speaker 1: started watching this movie when I was tiny, So one
Speaker 1: thing I learned about it was that it didn't do
Speaker 1: that well in theaters, but it was one of the
Speaker 1: first ever huge VHS hits, which makes sense because in
Speaker 1: theaters this is the kind of thing that I think
Speaker 1: happens pretty frequently where if a film, if if parents
Speaker 1: are afraid that something is too scary, there's always the
Speaker 1: feeling of like I'm not going to blow movie ticket
Speaker 1: money on it. And my parents also were like I
Speaker 1: think my mom in particular, was like she knew I
Speaker 1: couldn't handle a little shop before year, because I was not.
Speaker 1: I was kind of like trauma, mild trauma from this movie.
Speaker 1: I think I had like some recurring nightmares. But I
Speaker 1: think because it's so over the top and because it's
Speaker 1: a musical, it takes the edge off of even seeing
Speaker 1: the like a brutal axe dismemberment thing, which does happen again.
Speaker 1: It sme also makes you feel like, man, the eighties
Speaker 1: were wild. They were I mean, they were. One thing
Speaker 1: we talked about a lot is like that. The problem
Speaker 1: with a lot of mainstream movies now is that therefore
Speaker 1: this audience of like adults and also children, and they're
Speaker 1: time cats. Well, no cats forts for me, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: just for you. You can have a little cats as
Speaker 1: a treat um. No. But I think when things like
Speaker 1: try to split the difference between like for everybody, that's
Speaker 1: when you get like the pod race or Anakin Skywalker,
Speaker 1: like a baby and a rocket. Well, but when you
Speaker 1: say that, what's really the thing that's most interesting about
Speaker 1: the evolution of different releases of Little Shop is, of
Speaker 1: course that the original ending. So apparently in the screening
Speaker 1: the audience was like right there, they were clapping, they
Speaker 1: were laughing, and then the original ending is just this
Speaker 1: like absolute horror blood bath. I watched it first because
Speaker 1: nice have that version queued up. I was like, I'll
Speaker 1: watch the bat the like scary ending, not bad, but
Speaker 1: the director's cut ending, and then I'll watch the theatrical release,
Speaker 1: happy ending, because I'm a baby. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see as much as I talked about how much I
Speaker 1: love seventies down er endings. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: too dark. It's too dark because because the main characters
Speaker 1: are so likable despite being very flawed. Right, it's a
Speaker 1: testament to how amazing Rick moranis and are the you
Speaker 1: do like love Rick moranis the whole time, even when
Speaker 1: he turns out to be a murderer. So just to
Speaker 1: set this up, I mean, I'm pretty sure people know
Speaker 1: the general synopsis of this movie, but just in case,
Speaker 1: we have, um, we have Rick moranis as Seymour and uh,
Speaker 1: and we have Audrey and they're working at Mr Mushnick's
Speaker 1: flower shop. Seymour gets this plant that is Audrey. He
Speaker 1: names it Audrey Too, and it's a weird looking fly
Speaker 1: trap thing, puts it in the window. The struggling business
Speaker 1: becomes a sensation overnight. Everyone's really intrigued. Christopher Guest is
Speaker 1: the first customer who notices Audrey two in the window,
Speaker 1: comes in and it's like, I'm obsessed with that plant.
Speaker 1: I must have one. Um. And the problem is is
Speaker 1: that Audrey Too only eats human blood and meat, so
Speaker 1: that's a that's a problem. But in the director's cut
Speaker 1: ending and the original ending Audrey to the plant ends
Speaker 1: up eating original Audrey one Rick Moran. Seymour comes in
Speaker 1: prize Audrey out of the plant Audrey's mouth, but she
Speaker 1: can't be saved. Then Audrey like blows everything up, eats Seymour,
Speaker 1: and then all of her little baby plants that live
Speaker 1: on her ten drils take over the world. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: apparently in musical in the stage version, at that point
Speaker 1: when Seymour is like pleading with the plant and the flower,
Speaker 1: the little baby plants open, they all have the faces
Speaker 1: of all the people he's eating them. And there are many,
Speaker 1: many fatalities in this movie, which is also crazy to
Speaker 1: think of all the children growing up watching. And that's
Speaker 1: what I was saying, It's like, it feels like a
Speaker 1: lot of these eighties movies we're talking about, but they
Speaker 1: were like really for adults, but also their children's kids
Speaker 1: liked them because kids want to like adult things too.
Speaker 1: Kids are like, oh, it's for growing up, so I
Speaker 1: can handle it. Not allowed like, of course that's what
Speaker 1: I want to see. I don't want to see something
Speaker 1: for babies. But this movie is legitimately scary. And then
Speaker 1: the songs are so good, they're really good um. Obviously
Speaker 1: Levi stubs from the Four Tops as Audrey too, is
Speaker 1: like the It's just an amazing thing. Also the fact
Speaker 1: that like in Audrey to the songs, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of cussing um, and there's a lot of like jokes
Speaker 1: about Audrey to punching more in the balls. You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's very off Broadway. It is extreme it started, and
Speaker 1: it is also cool to think about, Like, right, this
Speaker 1: is something that would never get developed, but it became
Speaker 1: like a hit organically, so to speak, and then became
Speaker 1: a movie and it was going to be directed at
Speaker 1: one point by Martin Scorsese. That's so funny. Why not?
Speaker 1: Why not? I mean, I would love I could see it.
Speaker 1: He should remake it. But I also, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: Frank Oz like makes the tone of it work because
Speaker 1: it's very hard to see it working. But it is
Speaker 1: sort of muppety. It's like the humans are sort of
Speaker 1: also like puppets, and humans are very well because everybody's
Speaker 1: kind of like scrappy and dressed in sort of fuzzy
Speaker 1: stuff and everyone's poor. Everyone's poor. So that's the other
Speaker 1: thing is that they live in a kind of fake
Speaker 1: New York that they call skid row and it's I
Speaker 1: mean watching it as an adult. This is the first
Speaker 1: time I've watched it as an adult. Um. And what's
Speaker 1: really obvious when you watch it as an adults is
Speaker 1: that it's about capitalism and the green Scare. It's kind
Speaker 1: of that is what other people in the internet side. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the It's just obvious. It's right there because it's um,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously there are also different layers that I
Speaker 1: was like reading every single blog about this movie. But
Speaker 1: I mean people made the case that it was about gentrification,
Speaker 1: which totally seems to work as well, um, and about
Speaker 1: the American dream with the white picket fence and like
Speaker 1: somewhere that's green money. Yeah. And Johnny was saying also,
Speaker 1: he was like, right, this is about New York when
Speaker 1: it was like when people considered it like scary and
Speaker 1: run down. Yeah, well it's an interesting apies they gentrified it.
Speaker 1: But that was when they were gentrifying it, right. But
Speaker 1: I mean I I read somewhere that the sixties movie
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, it's you know, the red scare,
Speaker 1: and then the idea of like aliens that kind of
Speaker 1: being tied into this like personification of this fear. This
Speaker 1: is then turning that on its head. But definitely, I mean,
Speaker 1: so this was I believe shot in London, um on
Speaker 1: a sound stage, but it definitely has a lot of
Speaker 1: like nineteen eighties New York stuff in it, which is
Speaker 1: curious if you consider that sixties. It's the eighties sixties
Speaker 1: which we all live exactly. UM. I have to say
Speaker 1: that my favorite part, which I totally forgotten about, and
Speaker 1: this is one of the many really great cameos, is
Speaker 1: John Candy as Wink Wilkinson, the DJ for w s
Speaker 1: K I DY so I love him so much. Sean
Speaker 1: Candy talked about another John Candy movie after this and
Speaker 1: we will um. But he has a he has Night Call,
Speaker 1: like his show is Nightcall. It's Wink Wilkinson's Weird World,
Speaker 1: and it's I was like, wow, that's probably the most
Speaker 1: analogous thing to Night Call. If you have a plant
Speaker 1: that eats people, please give us a night call we
Speaker 1: Wink Wilkinson's. We'll enjoy it. As a plant enthusiast, did
Speaker 1: this make you fear have fear of your plants? No?
Speaker 1: I mean we talked I think last week about the
Speaker 1: fact that plants emit ultrasonic screens. Yeah. Um, And that
Speaker 1: was really fascinating to me because I got a plant
Speaker 1: a while ago from Home DEEPOT. My plants from Home
Speaker 1: DEEPO never hold up that well. And this was a
Speaker 1: mimosa plant called that they branded as the Emo plant
Speaker 1: because when you touch it's um it has kind of
Speaker 1: like almost fern like, uh, they recoil from you and
Speaker 1: it's like you can't stop doing it, even though you
Speaker 1: know that it's the plant is like stop stop stop um.
Speaker 1: But I mean, it's one of the things that's kind
Speaker 1: of curious about this. Well, one of the things I
Speaker 1: love about the plant itself is how massive it gets.
Speaker 1: It gets so big. It took like sixty people to
Speaker 1: operate this, this puppet plant, including Brian Henson, who has
Speaker 1: featured into every single one of the movies that we've
Speaker 1: covered in Scary Eighties Puppet Odyssey. He owned the genre
Speaker 1: and he did a great job. Also his younger sister
Speaker 1: and these are all the Henson family, but his younger
Speaker 1: sister appears in the dentist scene, and the dentist scene
Speaker 1: is so good. Steve Martin the doctor, that's I think
Speaker 1: why we decided to watch this test and I both
Speaker 1: had some some crazy dental experiences. Yeah, and and that's
Speaker 1: all finally behind us. But I'm glad we watched it
Speaker 1: after Oh my god, and shout out to everyone on
Speaker 1: the Night Call facebook page who like sent me very
Speaker 1: supportive messages. I was, I've never been so scared in
Speaker 1: my life, and last week I was like fresh off
Speaker 1: that experience, and now I feel like a brand new lady.
Speaker 1: And then you can process it with laughter by watching
Speaker 1: that scene. Well, it's really crazy is they offered me
Speaker 1: nitros and then they explained that there was a nitrous
Speaker 1: shortage and then the you know what, there's a nitrous
Speaker 1: shortage because they explain I didn't even look into it
Speaker 1: because I wanted to just being out. They said it
Speaker 1: was like something about the Middle East, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Like this is a I don't understand.
Speaker 1: It's a guy like can't you couldn't you really just
Speaker 1: manufacture this ship? How hard? Could only one way to
Speaker 1: find out? Right? Um? But Steve Martin obviously dies from
Speaker 1: a nitrous oxide overdose before he has dismembered in a
Speaker 1: very Robert Durst kind of way, because Seymour is like,
Speaker 1: I didn't kill him I just cut him up. I
Speaker 1: was like, I've heard that before and again. Testament to
Speaker 1: Rick moranis godd he's so good wonder and Gloria ranis
Speaker 1: that he makes Seymour so lovable the whole time, even
Speaker 1: as he gives into his greed and makes the fausting impact.
Speaker 1: With Audrey Too, he doesn't have a choice. He just
Speaker 1: wants things, like a blob. He's only he's operating out
Speaker 1: of need, right, I guess the blob is kind of
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's a blob. Capitalism is capitalism, Um,
Speaker 1: do you think that Audrey Too, if this is capitalism,
Speaker 1: represents the consumer big business, Like what what do all
Speaker 1: of these moving parts? Well, I think Audrey Too is
Speaker 1: like the monster that needs blood to live, right, which
Speaker 1: is human labor. And then also uh that it like
Speaker 1: is like any company where it's like it insists that
Speaker 1: it has to get bigger each year, it has to
Speaker 1: keep growing and growing forever, and then once it gets
Speaker 1: big enough, it has to have the only things that
Speaker 1: come from it can populate the MARTA's Amazon. It could be.
Speaker 1: I was at first, I was like, oh, is it
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley? I mean, you can you can have some
Speaker 1: real fun twist though, what if the plant did nothing wrong?
Speaker 1: I think it did do What if It's like a
Speaker 1: Frankenstein's Monster though, where it's like the real villain is
Speaker 1: Man for creating it. No, but Mandan created it came
Speaker 1: from Spain, from space. But Man was stupid enough to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, take the apple from eat In and be like,
Speaker 1: this looks good. Gotta do it because I can. I
Speaker 1: like a good biblical reference. That's just perfect sense. Yea
Speaker 1: one to one analogy. Did you have a favorite song?
Speaker 1: I mean, I was singing the theme song for like
Speaker 1: the next twenty hours. But also, you know, suddenly Seemore
Speaker 1: is so so good. I think the best song is
Speaker 1: dentist exclamation mark. Oh yeah, it's so good. I think
Speaker 1: I read the Lady. Gaga played Audrey in a production
Speaker 1: of a high school production. We were talking about the
Speaker 1: fact that this is apparently very popular as as a
Speaker 1: children's and community theater production, which is like, really, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you like everyone I've talked to who loves this
Speaker 1: movie like saw it as a kid and loved it,
Speaker 1: So I guess it's not that disturbing. I always thought
Speaker 1: it seemed very vaginal, but that's not the metaphor that
Speaker 1: is a vaginal plant and it's the mother Well, all
Speaker 1: plants are the vaginal mother planet. I guess so. Um
Speaker 1: you're saying you also like Sweeney Top, which is another
Speaker 1: murder musical. Well, I just I'm not the biggest musical fan,
Speaker 1: and it's obviously hard out there for a non musical
Speaker 1: fan right now, and I've just been kind of crouching
Speaker 1: down waiting for the musical trying to flow over for
Speaker 1: me to put you on a leash and bring you
Speaker 1: to Cats. Yeah, so let's discuss this really quick, because
Speaker 1: obviously this totally lines up with our scary puppets theme.
Speaker 1: But I don't think I can bring myself to go
Speaker 1: see Cats after all these reviews. Well, the reviews just
Speaker 1: make me want to see it more. They did for
Speaker 1: a bit, but then after I had read all of
Speaker 1: the reviews, I felt like I had already seen it.
Speaker 1: But I'm also like people wouldn't like any adaptation of Cats.
Speaker 1: Cats has such a bad reputation as a musical because
Speaker 1: it's so dumb. It's perfect. Our friend Tyler Coates went
Speaker 1: to the screening. He is a he is a fan.
Speaker 1: He's a huge Cats fan. He said, he's seen it
Speaker 1: four times, three times as an adult, and he hated
Speaker 1: this movie. I hated it. I gotta know. I got
Speaker 1: to know. You have to have to see it for myself.
Speaker 1: I have to know about it because it's like Star
Speaker 1: Wars Land. I'm like, each baffling choice here was vetted
Speaker 1: by thousands of people, and this is where we arrived
Speaker 1: and finished hours before at premier, which is the funniest
Speaker 1: thing to me, because of course, and to make something
Speaker 1: like more horrifying than anything in Sweeney Todd or Little
Speaker 1: Shop in a musical that's not supposed to be in
Speaker 1: any way horror core. I just think it's upsetting that
Speaker 1: they added elements that weren't there originally to try to
Speaker 1: have more going on, but it didn't result in that.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't appear to have a cat the Cats
Speaker 1: Defenders logging on right now. I mean, it's an adaptation
Speaker 1: of a book of poems, and it's like essentially I was.
Speaker 1: I was also telling you that there was this thing
Speaker 1: about how like the producer was like asking Andrew Lord
Speaker 1: Webber what it's about. Being like Sweeney Todd is about
Speaker 1: like Victorian industrialization, grinding people up into mince meat. Uh
Speaker 1: is cats? Like, is this cat Queen Victoria and this
Speaker 1: other cat is the British Empire? And he was like, no,
Speaker 1: they're cats. It's just cats. It's just cats. I would
Speaker 1: I would have rather it would be easier to get
Speaker 1: me into the theater if this were a movie of
Speaker 1: just actual cats, like and then there was just a
Speaker 1: voice over or something, or you know, you could somehow
Speaker 1: like make the cat's mouths move like in Snowbuddies or whatever.
Speaker 1: How was the Lion King did that? Though? That was scary.
Speaker 1: This is like I respect that they're going for the
Speaker 1: nightmarishness of the eighties original um, which is really weird.
Speaker 1: And I liked that. I mean, I knew it was
Speaker 1: campy and like dumb, but it is like just like
Speaker 1: a tribute to British vaudeville. It's like here I am
Speaker 1: singing my song. Now here's another person singing their songs.
Speaker 1: Here's some stuff about me. Right. There's like barely any
Speaker 1: overarching plot, which is like very relaxing, although the cats
Speaker 1: did come into the audience, which totally scares children. Wait
Speaker 1: what Yeah, they're like clowns that come up to you
Speaker 1: and they're like, I'm speaking of things that scared children. Yes,
Speaker 1: let's take a minute for home alone. Yeah, let's take
Speaker 1: a minute for home alone. So you just watched this
Speaker 1: for I'm assuming you've seen it before, but you recently.
Speaker 1: I watched it as much as other people do. I've
Speaker 1: only seen a holiday tradition. I don't watch it for
Speaker 1: the holidays. Is the first time I've done that million years.
Speaker 1: Because somebody else was talking about it, I was like, sure,
Speaker 1: I'd watched that. Um. I didn't like it that much
Speaker 1: at the time. Yeah, when I was a kid, because
Speaker 1: I thought it was so violent, I loved it, um,
Speaker 1: But every other kid did. So I was alone. This
Speaker 1: was my ultimate fantasy as a child is just to
Speaker 1: be home alone for for a really long time. It
Speaker 1: was like just get the parents out, not so much
Speaker 1: the robbers, but just like having a like a big
Speaker 1: house all to yoursel. Yeah. And then when he was
Speaker 1: when in you know, when he was in New York,
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I was like, yeah, at a hotel by yourself.
Speaker 1: Imagine that's the life if you're a kid, Oh boy,
Speaker 1: Because then all of the tedious stuff where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: Kevin's house is getting really messy, like he doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to clean his house. He's like tiny that that's
Speaker 1: got to be affecting his psyche when you're in the hotel,
Speaker 1: like you know, there's housekeeping, some talking food, the home alone. Oh,
Speaker 1: I would I would just like fantasize about that all
Speaker 1: the time. I guess there's a lot of things for
Speaker 1: kids that fantasize about being like an adult but you're
Speaker 1: still a kid. Yeah, or or just like the idea
Speaker 1: of could I make it, it's almost like a testing survivalist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh I never had that. I was like, I would die,
Speaker 1: I know, but you're you're more social. I was just like, wow,
Speaker 1: imagine no, but I would die, Like I would die
Speaker 1: left to my own devices, I wouldn't be able to like,
Speaker 1: you be fine. No. I was like, if I got
Speaker 1: lost in New York, I would be in the Hudson
Speaker 1: River so fast. That's a kid, like, come on, no
Speaker 1: cell phones yet, I would have been just I would
Speaker 1: have just fallen into manhole. I felt like I could
Speaker 1: hack it. At one time, I went on a plane
Speaker 1: by myself when I was like probably eleven or something,
Speaker 1: and there was that there was bad weather and I
Speaker 1: was in Texas overnight and um had my parents they
Speaker 1: were like, what are we going to do in the airline?
Speaker 1: They because somehow set it up so that I could
Speaker 1: stay in a western overnight. And I remember I was
Speaker 1: like a tiny coffee maker, Like I can figure out
Speaker 1: how to use this tiny like a cup of coffee.
Speaker 1: You're so you're the only kid in the world who's
Speaker 1: like a night by myself in a hotel without my parents.
Speaker 1: Sweet sweet. I think Kevin felt that way too at first.
Speaker 1: How old is Kevin? I think Kevin's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: I would guess fifth grade, fifth grade? How old is that?
Speaker 1: Fifth grade would be like eleven or maybe like let's
Speaker 1: say ten or eleven eight. I don't think let's say
Speaker 1: nine or somewhere in the nine to eleven range. I've
Speaker 1: noticed that a lot of books um for like kind
Speaker 1: of kids who are in elementary school, like young elementary school,
Speaker 1: they all seem set in fifth grade. It seems like
Speaker 1: kind of kind of like a pivotal age where kids
Speaker 1: are able to have their own thoughts but not have
Speaker 1: them and by or to be self sufficient but not
Speaker 1: really where you're like in your mind, you've got it
Speaker 1: all set up, but then when you actually try and
Speaker 1: execute the most basic tasks. You're like, I'm a kid,
Speaker 1: damn it, and assault and everything. Um, tell me more
Speaker 1: about your love of home alone. Well, I I watched
Speaker 1: it with my kids, and I didn't remember how violent
Speaker 1: it was, And then I felt kind of bad about
Speaker 1: that because it is. It's it's a tremendously sadistic like
Speaker 1: you're really supposed to just want to see these guys
Speaker 1: like punched and tripped and burned. Is it weird that
Speaker 1: I was like, they're doing nothing wrong. They just they're
Speaker 1: not trying to murder anybody. They're just trying to get
Speaker 1: some valuable to get out. No, I think it's pretty
Speaker 1: mess I think that the real distressing thing is that
Speaker 1: they were surveilling the house right and waiting for everyone
Speaker 1: to leave, and when they realized that there was a
Speaker 1: child involved, they were like, you know what, let's take
Speaker 1: a chance. If someone gets hurt, no big deal. And
Speaker 1: you're like, but he's he's Kevin, he's a little kid.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying to like, you don't know that Kevin
Speaker 1: is like you know, Rambo until they don't set it
Speaker 1: up at all. Well, to explain that we were talking
Speaker 1: about this, I was saying, it's like there's nothing in
Speaker 1: the first act of Home Alone to let you have
Speaker 1: any idea that Kevin would be good at, like setting
Speaker 1: booby traps, doing pranks, like having any kind of technical
Speaker 1: know how. There's nothing, you know. They show him with
Speaker 1: his brothers and he just siblings, and he's so powerless,
Speaker 1: and he's like the little kid. He's the youngest. I think, Um,
Speaker 1: he gets lost in the chaotic shuffle, but he's sort
Speaker 1: of just like is a helpless little kid until his
Speaker 1: medal is tested and then it turns into straw dogs.
Speaker 1: And that is the weirdest. It's like one of the
Speaker 1: weirdest act turns in a movie ever. So let me
Speaker 1: let me pause it this. I think that if they
Speaker 1: had had Kevin at the beginning of the movie when
Speaker 1: they're ordering the pizza and that in a blings and
Speaker 1: cousins are threatening to like pee on him and they're
Speaker 1: just all hating on him, if he had retaliated, then
Speaker 1: first of all, you would have expected that he would
Speaker 1: retaliate against the robbers, which I think it's better if
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, he found his grit. Okay, yeah, you
Speaker 1: came into his own. But also he would have seemed
Speaker 1: like such an asshole because he already kind of salty.
Speaker 1: It's also like, you know, no offense to Macaulay Culkin's face,
Speaker 1: but there's something a little like Richie rich about him.
Speaker 1: You know, he seems like a little smug like blonde kids,
Speaker 1: so to speak. Yeah, he's very delicate, he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's pretty, but I don't know, it's like they don't
Speaker 1: they just kind of make him be like he's like
Speaker 1: a little woos and then it's like, no, he's not
Speaker 1: a Woos. That's but that's why it's it's kind of
Speaker 1: a survivalist thing. But it's also kind of a coming
Speaker 1: of age thing because when he's by himself, he's like,
Speaker 1: are the Wet bandits puberty? Oh? What if? What if?
Speaker 1: I mean it is it makes a lot of said
Speaker 1: you know, when you turn thirteen, Daniel Stern and Joe
Speaker 1: Pesci show up and tell you something a total like
Speaker 1: adolescent Joe Peshi. Joe Peshi the Jareff for into adulthood.
Speaker 1: I love Joe Peshi so much. Um, I've seen We've
Speaker 1: seen so many Joe Peshi movies. Here, congratulations to us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when everybody was talking about how Grady is in The Irishman.
Speaker 1: Some of us were like, you mean JFK. You mean
Speaker 1: how amazing he is in JFK. But he's also amazing
Speaker 1: and home alone, I mean home Alone. It's so hard because,
Speaker 1: like I realized that it could be reduced to people
Speaker 1: saying it's not the finest film ever made. I mean,
Speaker 1: but I think it might be. It's up there for me.
Speaker 1: It's also cartoon violence. I think that's the thing too,
Speaker 1: is it's like, what makes it jarring is that the
Speaker 1: first half of the movie is like John Hughes social realism,
Speaker 1: you know, or it's like takes place in reality and
Speaker 1: it's good. It's like the kids aren't like sickly sweet,
Speaker 1: and there's there's older Pete from Pete and Pete like
Speaker 1: the kids talk kind of like assholes to each other,
Speaker 1: which is believable, and they're all like competitive. It's not
Speaker 1: like his family. At the beginning is like, the most
Speaker 1: wonderful thing is that they're like the family and like
Speaker 1: sixteen candles just like ignoring him, which is I guess
Speaker 1: the big John Hughes is um. But then in the
Speaker 1: second half it turns into like a loony tune and
Speaker 1: that is confusing. It is, but I mean there's it
Speaker 1: is like a nice kind of like revenge in a way.
Speaker 1: It's just he can't he wishes his family would disappear,
Speaker 1: and so they do. But then it's like he still
Speaker 1: kind of has the grudge against them that hasn't been
Speaker 1: worked through yet, and he just takes it out on
Speaker 1: the Wet Bandits instead. It's just so violent. That's super violent.
Speaker 1: And that's also the Angels with Dirty Faces influence, and
Speaker 1: which is a meta commentary on you're watching a violent movie,
Speaker 1: now you'll be violent. I forgot also that he like
Speaker 1: has a gun. It's a baby gun, but still that
Speaker 1: he like puts a gun on his back and it's
Speaker 1: like time to fucking do some business. It's so that
Speaker 1: was the exact moment when I looked at my like
Speaker 1: tiny children and was like, I'm so sorry, you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to do that. Yeah, they don't even for a while,
Speaker 1: like we would just refer to guns as those things
Speaker 1: you don't like. So I was like, there's those things
Speaker 1: I don't like in a movie. I insisted we watch. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing. There's just yeah, there's something
Speaker 1: kind of creepy and conservative about it. It's very like
Speaker 1: standard I know, but it's very guy asshole I know.
Speaker 1: But it's still like like defend your I don't know,
Speaker 1: just like hide in the basement, kid, let them take
Speaker 1: your stereo and just hide. That's the thing. He doesn't
Speaker 1: know that they're after stuff, Molly right, And then they
Speaker 1: do eventually threaten to kill him. See, at which point
Speaker 1: it becomes I guess justifiable. Maybe we should do a
Speaker 1: series on like coming of age movies and have this
Speaker 1: one be this can enter into the well. You and
Speaker 1: I both love The Bad Seed, which is a movie
Speaker 1: of the best, the best movie about an evil little kid. Um.
Speaker 1: And then I also saw The Good Son for the
Speaker 1: first time. Oh it's so which very so good and
Speaker 1: scary and uses everything that's unsettling about Macaulay Culkin in
Speaker 1: Home Alone to like the greatest effect to be like
Speaker 1: this is the kid that like can convince adults he's
Speaker 1: doing whatever. Oh, what about sociopathic child movie? We could
Speaker 1: do The Bad Seed, um, the good Son, the Omen.
Speaker 1: We could have fun. What else we got, well, Brainstorm, Well, brainstorm,
Speaker 1: you've got some ideas for sociopathic child movies. Give us
Speaker 1: a night call it to four oh for six night?
Speaker 1: What should we take one more night call before we
Speaker 1: get Let's take one more night call? All right, let's
Speaker 1: do it. Hi, guys, So I had to pause your
Speaker 1: latest episode where you talk about the Unclaimed Baggage Center
Speaker 1: in Arizona. And I have not been there either, but
Speaker 1: I've been kind of fascinated with this place ever since
Speaker 1: I was a kid. And I saw this kind of
Speaker 1: long form autobiographical ras Chast comic about when she visited there,
Speaker 1: and it's really kind of moody, like especially for her stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: and it's really interesting and she talks about, Um, she
Speaker 1: talks about like going to this little diner that's right
Speaker 1: next to it, and she orders like a peanut butter
Speaker 1: coke which is on the menu, and it's just like
Speaker 1: coke with with pe DUTs in it that like flowed
Speaker 1: up and down. Um. Anyway, it's really interesting and I
Speaker 1: recommend you check that comic out. I think it was
Speaker 1: in her anthology book Theories of Everything, but UM, I
Speaker 1: don't know where it was originally public. Probably the New Yorkers,
Speaker 1: but um, he definitely took it out. Um. Thanks for
Speaker 1: the guys, that was a great nightcall. I don't know
Speaker 1: if the caller identified themselves. But thank you nightcaller. We'll
Speaker 1: call you peanut butter coke. Um, we love raw shast Yes,
Speaker 1: I actually just I'm like halfway through her. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like a memoir. Can't we talk about something more pleasant,
Speaker 1: which is about her aging parents and it's it's very sad.
Speaker 1: But also if you love ros she's the best. Her Instagram,
Speaker 1: which is just her name, Rack shast Um, is the
Speaker 1: best instagram of anybody. It's amazing. She does a lot
Speaker 1: of art and like comicy stuff, stuff that she can't
Speaker 1: do in the New Yorker. Um, that's just kind of
Speaker 1: like self reflective, self reflective dream comics. She does use
Speaker 1: dream comics all the time. She has always just been
Speaker 1: one of my favorite cartoonists. Um, my parents always had
Speaker 1: her stuff in our house and a big night call
Speaker 1: inspiration total like just a lady person you in her
Speaker 1: own call drinking that peanut butter coat. She does something
Speaker 1: also amazing for Halloween. I'm not sure if they do
Speaker 1: it for Christmas also, but for Halloween her and her
Speaker 1: husband put out these like insane dolls all over their yard.
Speaker 1: Really where do they live New York? Probably outside New
Speaker 1: York somewhere. Um, and she said I thought it was
Speaker 1: maybe her thing, but she said at some point that
Speaker 1: it was actually her husband's insane obsession. But it sounds
Speaker 1: like she found somebody who also would appreciate the unclaimed
Speaker 1: baggage area. Oh, editor's desk, the unclaimed baggage that we
Speaker 1: referenced in last week's episode and we said was in
Speaker 1: Arizona is in fact in Alabama. So thanks for letting
Speaker 1: us know about that. It's too far for us to go.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to go to Alabama for that,
Speaker 1: but if you're in the vicinity of Alabama and you
Speaker 1: want to report back on the unclaimed baggage, please do,
Speaker 1: please do. Um. Yeah, ros Chast is awesome and I
Speaker 1: also rock Chast. Come on Nightcall, Yeah, come on night
Speaker 1: called Ros. She's also been a really cool mentor to
Speaker 1: a lot of other like cartoon this that I really like. Um,
Speaker 1: she's just the Rattus. She seems like a good person.
Speaker 1: Before we go, I should mention that we have a
Speaker 1: box sitting between Yeah, we're going to do a nightcall unboxing,
Speaker 1: so we This is not technically an ad. I think
Speaker 1: maybe this is for an ad for a later date,
Speaker 1: but we so this is a genuine endorsement of how
Speaker 1: excited we are to open a box of cookies from
Speaker 1: Pepperdge Farm. Yeah, we got asked if we wanted to
Speaker 1: endorse a Pepperidge Farm cookie, and we said, are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? We would do that even if you didn't
Speaker 1: ask us to, which is what we're doing now. You've
Speaker 1: always been a big fan of the dark chocolate milanas.
Speaker 1: I love the gingerbread men. Also I like the jam
Speaker 1: thumb pretty cookie. See how great it is if you do.
Speaker 1: If you get ads with Nightcall, we'll just start endorsing
Speaker 1: you before if you if you get an ad with
Speaker 1: us or a partnership with us, we will we will
Speaker 1: wholeheartedly endorse you, especially if you send us cookies. Okay, tests,
Speaker 1: This is sound of tests opening a box. Oh wow, Wow,
Speaker 1: it's like a Milano superpack. We got the Milano Double Dark.
Speaker 1: We got the milk chocolate Milano, which I actually I
Speaker 1: like milk chocolate. Kind of weird about that milk chocolate.
Speaker 1: Some of these are seasonal and we got a nice card.
Speaker 1: Thanks Pepperidge Farm. We'll do a real ad for you,
Speaker 1: and how good these were. But where we wanted to
Speaker 1: share our genuine enthusiasm. UM. If you have any weird
Speaker 1: recipes for peanut butter coke or something like that, or
Speaker 1: if you have any puppet movies of any era that
Speaker 1: gave you nightmares that you would like us to talk about,
Speaker 1: theme park ideas, weird creatures, things you'd like us to
Speaker 1: cover in give us a night call at to four
Speaker 1: oh four six night Um. Also, because how how things
Speaker 1: line up, I don't know how calendars work. This is
Speaker 1: one of our last night calls of the year, but
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say thank you for listening to
Speaker 1: Night Call. We've been podcasting off and on since I believe,
Speaker 1: UM at different places, different places. Uh, but it's really
Speaker 1: it's really nice to us that we get to do
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Speaker 1: we really appreciate it. Yeah, and we will have a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff in the new year, we will have
Speaker 1: Emily back, of course, and we will have more mixes,
Speaker 1: more book Club episodes, more live events, some weird adventures,
Speaker 1: exciting weird adventures to be told. So please stay with us,
Speaker 1: and you are appreciated. You are appreciated. Thanks for listening,
Speaker 1: and we will see you next week for a special
Speaker 1: book Club podcast release. Yeah, thank you for listening. Copy Holidays,
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