1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Can if I am six forty you're listening to the 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: App and you're saying that doesn't sound like John. It 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: is not John. 5 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 3: I'm Phil Schuman, sitting in for John Cobelt with you 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 3: from one to four this afternoon. Always a fun afternoon, 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 3: although we're talking about some very serious, deadly serious topics today. 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: Hate to bring you down as we head into the 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 3: beginning of the New year. Spectacular sunny day here in 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: southern California. This is what we love about it, right, 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: but of course dominating the news the situation in New Orleans, 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: the aftermath of that terrible terrorist attack, and then the 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 3: same time the explosion outside the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas. 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: The latest is that the investigators are saying they are 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: not related. We're going to get into those in a 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: detailed way this afternoon. We'll have live reports from New Orleans, 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: from Vegas. We're going to talk with law enforcement experts, 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: and not just to get the latest on the news, 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: because you can do that anywhere. 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: But what I'm trying to do. 21 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: What we're trying to do is help you understand what's 22 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: going on here and try to answer the questions, are 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: we safe, how do we stay safe? What can we 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: do to make us safer? So a lot to think 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: about over the next few hours. Please stay with us, 26 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: but first we want to go get an update on 27 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: both the New Orleans and the Las Vegas investigations from 28 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: Olivia Rubin, an ABC News investigative reporter who joins us 29 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 3: Live now. 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 4: Olivia, Hey pal, thanks so much for having me. Most 31 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 4: important to know right now. 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 5: Investigators in New Orleans today saying that they do not 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 5: believe that that suspects who ram down people on Bourbon 34 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 5: Avenue acted with anyone else there, saying it was a 35 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 5: lone attack. There had been some thoughts that perhaps maybe 36 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 5: there were others who had helped him give in their 37 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 5: surveillance video that showed others interacting with the cooler that 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 5: contained an ied that had been placed before that ramming attack. 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 5: That investigators today are now saying they were just passerby, 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 5: not anyone involved with the attack, and that it was 41 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 5: the suspect himself who had placed two IEDs before the attack, 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 5: changed his clothes and then rammed down those poor individuals 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 5: on Bourbon Street, and they found that change of clothes 44 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 5: inside of his vehicle. They are also emphasizing that they 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 5: believe the attack was one hundred percent inspired by ISIS. 46 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 5: Remember they had said there was an ISIS flag inside 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 5: of the vehicle, and now they are saying that that suspect, 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 5: as he traveled to New Orleans from Texas, where he 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 5: was located, had posted five videos to. 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 4: Facebook in the wee hours of the night, in one. 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 5: Of them saying that he had joined ISIS just before 52 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 5: the summer, so providing some more sort of insight into that. Tragically, 53 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 5: he said in those videos, if I could just add 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 5: one more thing, that he originally was going to harm 55 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 5: his family or friends. That was his original plan, but 56 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 5: he didn't think it would send the right political message. 57 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 4: He was looking to convey that. 58 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 5: The news headlines wouldn't focus on, quote, the war between 59 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 5: the believers and the disbelievers. So still digging in there 60 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 5: on that, but just some more details around it. 61 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: So we're talking live with Olivia Rubin from the ABC 62 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: News on the twin attacks. If you could call it that, well, 63 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 3: certainly could call the New Orleans an attack. The Las 64 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: Vegas was a bombing. They're saying they're not related, so 65 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: you know, to say he was acting alone and then 66 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: to say that the New Orleans attack and the Las 67 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: Vegas bombing are not related. Is that somehow supposed to 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: make us feel better? Is that just important information? I mean, 69 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: why do they keep stressing those things? 70 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: Well, it's important as part of the investigation. 71 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 5: You know, was there a coordinated attack in multiple cities 72 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 5: by multiple people. It helped to understand what exactly happened here, 73 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: and I think, you know, in terms of the Vegas 74 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 5: event specifically, there's still a lot more to understand. Investiators 75 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 5: still don't have the motive there. That's what they said 76 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 5: at a briefing today that they're still looking to understand 77 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 5: why this. 78 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: Individual did this. 79 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 5: You know, they acknowledged the timing, it's the same day 80 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 5: as what happened in New Orleans. They acknowledged the location 81 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 5: a Trump hotel, you know, he's president like Trump is 82 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 5: advised by Elon Musk. 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: This was a cyber truck. 84 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 5: So you know, that's all things that they're keenly aware of, 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 5: and so they're trying to piece. 86 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: Together exactly what happened. 87 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 5: But officials in both locations are stressing that there is 88 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 5: no ongoing threat to the public by saying he acted alone. 89 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 5: If he hadn't acted alone where there's still a sailance 90 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 5: out on the loose, so they believe they have their 91 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 5: men here and they're just trying to figure out more 92 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 5: of what happened. 93 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: But they are stressing the public is safe, yeah. 94 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: Until we're not. 95 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: And then of course looking at New Orleans specifically, they 96 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: postponed the Sugar Bowl tonight till tonight from last night, 97 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: which seemed like it was an obvious thing to do. 98 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 3: While that took them some time to do it, some 99 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: people have felt that it should be moved out of 100 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: New Orleans altogether. 101 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking to one hundred thousand people or so. 102 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: And then of course, coming up February ninth, the Super 103 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: Bowl in New Orleans. So, as you mentioned, and we 104 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: were still on the very early stages of all this, 105 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 3: but there seems like so many unanswered questions. In particular, 106 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: did the security apparatus somehow fail or do something wrong. 107 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: We've heard about the ballards. 108 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: Which is a term that we've unfortunately become familiar with, 109 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: the steel posts to prevent truck car attacks being removed. 110 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: There was a police car blocking the road. 111 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at the diagram which is 112 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: available online, there's lots of access points to Bourbon Street. 113 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: It wasn't just you know, take one police car block 114 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: the end of a road and you're done. So that's 115 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: down the road to come. I guess the questions now 116 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: are more are we safe? Are their ongoing threats? Which 117 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: the I guess the answer for that for right now seems. 118 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 4: To be no, exactly. 119 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 5: And you know, again officials in both locations saying there 120 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 5: is no ongoing thread and the public is safe. I 121 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 5: think that's part of the reason. They were likely emphasizing 122 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 5: that they believe he acted alone and that there aren't 123 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 5: you know, potential co conspirators out there who they are 124 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 5: still searching for. So I think that's part of that 125 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 5: emphasis on why it's so important to understand why he 126 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 5: acted alone. But you're absolutely right there there will come a. 127 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 4: Time about how did this happen. 128 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 5: You mentioned the ballers, you know, they were in the 129 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 5: process of being replaced. There was a police car, you know, 130 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 5: blocking Bourbon Street, and the suspect was able to drive 131 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 5: up onto the sidewalk and around and down the street. 132 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 5: So of course you mentioned, you know, the Super Bowl 133 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 5: coming up, there will be plenty of questions about how 134 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 5: they are continuing to keep that city safe. 135 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: Well, I can only imagine what's going to happen as 136 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl approaches. They already classify those that I 137 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: believe it's called a Tier one national security event. I mean, 138 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 3: I've been to super Bowls. You've probably been to super Bowls. 139 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: It's similar to a political convention. I mean, the security 140 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: is just taken to the to the highest possible level. 141 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: And I'm sure there'll be even more restrictions and closures 142 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 3: over the next few weeks as we get ready for 143 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: the super Bowl. 144 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 4: You would have to. 145 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 5: Think, and you know, even where I am here in Washington, 146 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 5: d C. 147 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: They're getting ready for more high profile events. 148 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 5: The inauguration sure is in January twentieth th Streets are 149 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 5: already starting to be closed down. 150 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: There's already a heightened security posture. So it's certainly this 151 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: factoring into all of that. 152 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it just makes for a very unsettling time, right. 153 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: I Mean, we're in the news business, so we deal 154 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: with these kinds of things on a daily basis. But 155 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: for the average person who's looking forward to twenty twenty 156 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: five and celebrating Christmas and Hanukkah and Kwanza and the 157 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: New Year, It's like, whoa what kind of world are 158 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: we living in? Where this you know, this suspect, in particular, 159 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: the New Orleans one, feels like he has to you know, 160 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: here's a quote forbidding the evil is a mandate on 161 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: all of mankind, one of his postings online. So it's 162 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: just a very tough time to start the new year 163 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: to at the risk of skating the. 164 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 5: Obvious, absolutely, and I think that's why one of the 165 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 5: biggest questions also is, you know, how did this individual 166 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 5: become radicalized? And that's certainly some of the investigators have 167 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: indicated that they are continuing to dig into exactly how 168 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 5: this happened, right, you know, how do you have an 169 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 5: American citizen, you know, born and raised here who then becomes. 170 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: A supporter of ISIS on our own. 171 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: Soil, he was a soldier. 172 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 5: Certainly, all assects, right, certainly, all aspects that they're digging into. 173 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: All right, Well, Olivia Rubin from ABC News, appreciate you've 174 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 3: given us the latest on this, the sort of twin 175 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: headlines that continue to reverberate and raise so many questions 176 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: and make so many people afraid of you know, what 177 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: it's like going forward? Into twenty twenty five. We'll let 178 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: you get back to work. Thanks for your time. I'm 179 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: Phil shooting in for John Cobelt today. We have a 180 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: big afternoon planned. We're going to talk about these kinds 181 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: of terrorists threats. Could it happen here? It's already happened here. 182 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: I mean we know the answer to that. And then 183 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: what type of organizations people, man power and I use 184 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: that term quotes manpower, women power is being deployed here 185 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: in southern California on a twenty four to seven basis 186 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: to keep us safe. And then remember the old phrase 187 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: like if you see something, say something, it's almost like 188 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: something that you sort of raise your eyebrows at and say, really, 189 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: is that the best you got? But that kind of 190 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: is the best you got. And the case of these attacks, 191 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: or at least the one in New Orleans, it seems 192 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: like he was playing saying plenty both online and to 193 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: his family and friends, and looks like nobody said anything. 194 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: All right, when we come back more on this. 195 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 196 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 6: six forty. 197 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 3: We look towards New Orleans, we look towards Vegas, and 198 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: we look here towards southern California, and we ask ourselves 199 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: the question, which is disturbing, alarming, but required our safe. 200 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it's three hundred and thirty five million people 201 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: in the United States. Two of them have ruined the 202 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: New Years and killed people and are dominating the news headlines. 203 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: So the odds are still in our favor. But as 204 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: we've talked about over and over again, and I've talked 205 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: about this here, I've talked about this on Fox eleven News, 206 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: the good guys, which are most of us, and then 207 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: talking about law enforcement in particular, have to be right 208 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: one hundred percent of the time. The bad guys only 209 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: have to be right once. When I use right in 210 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: sort of a general term, are you able to drive 211 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: around a police car blockading a sidewalk and plow into 212 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: a crowd of people and kill fourteen of them before 213 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: you're killed in a gun battle with police? 214 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what happened. So the question is could 215 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: it happen here? 216 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: In what types of institutions, organizations, people are there in 217 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: place to keep us safe. It's something that I had 218 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 3: the portunity to cover quite a bit over the years, 219 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: and we asked the question, you know, could it happen here. 220 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: When we talk about ISIS inspired terrorism and what is ISIS, 221 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: I mean ISIS is essentially a terrorist organization dedicated to 222 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: destroying the West and uniting the radical interpretation of Islam worldwide. 223 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 3: I mean the Islamic State, Barack and Syria. I mean 224 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 3: essentially we use that term ISIS. If you want to 225 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: spend some time online educating yourself, it might be worth it, 226 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: or you just might want to know enough that these 227 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: are people with a radical, evil interpretation of Islam, of 228 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: Islam who want to destroy the West. And I think 229 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: that's deep enough. But remember twenty fifteen. I'm sure Debra 230 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: you remember this, the sam Bernardino terrorist attack. It was 231 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: December second, the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino. A 232 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: married couple living in Redlands targeted the San Bernardino Department 233 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: of Public Health during a Christmas party. Fourteen people killed, 234 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: twenty two others seriously injured, and then hours later the 235 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: police pursued them and killed them in a shootout. This 236 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: was again homegrown violent extream us. You heard Olivia Rubin 237 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: talking at the top of the hour. One of the 238 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: questions is how these people get quote unquote radicalized which 239 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: is a. 240 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: Term of art in the twenty twenties. Is it they recruited? No? 241 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: Are they online and formulating and fomenting hate? Yes? 242 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: And so when we asked the question could it happen here, 243 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: it's already happened here. 244 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 7: Did you see Phil, did you see the video of 245 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 7: the guy that the New Orleans guy? It was taken 246 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 7: maybe four years ago, and he was talking about how 247 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 7: he was a real estate agent and he seems so normal, 248 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 7: and it was him just talking about, you know, what 249 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 7: he was doing. And here we are four years later, 250 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 7: and this is what happened. 251 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: I guess the question we don't know is you know 252 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: what happened during that time exactly? 253 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 7: You know, how do you you looked different as well? 254 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 7: I mean, his whole demeanor, everything was just normal. 255 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: And then what what is it that transformed someone? I mean, uh, 256 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: it's just a questions that we can't answer necessarily. You know, 257 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: there's so many a lot of times you hear on 258 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: the news, police are still trying to determine his motive. 259 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: How about this, he's crazy? You're trying to determine his motive. 260 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: And then you know, I'm sure we're going to hear 261 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: about maybe it was the Las Vegas suspect. Maybe the 262 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: New Orleans suspect left behind a manifesto. It's almost like 263 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: this checklist of items that we go down, and those 264 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: of us in the news business are just almost become 265 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: like stenographers instead of investigators and cynical analysts of what 266 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: we're hearing from law enforcement and just sort of repeat 267 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: what they say. I mean, first, they were considered that 268 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: the Vegas and New Orleans were together connected and they 269 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 3: weren't connected. Then we think that the New Orleans suspect 270 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: had accomplices because of what you heard Olivia saying people 271 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: were seen with these coolers, and they know he hadn't 272 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: at all. 273 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: He didn't have accomplices. 274 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: He acted alone, which is some how it's supposed to 275 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 3: make us feel better. 276 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: I get it. 277 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: These are very early stages of the investigation and information changes. 278 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: But here here in Southern California, we have what are 279 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: called a Joint Terrorism Task Force. In general, the FBI 280 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: is the lead on these instances, in these crimes and 281 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: these terrorist attacks, just like you've heard from New Orleans 282 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: and from Vegas. But if you go online and look 283 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: these things up, the information from the FBI, they call 284 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: it the JTTF, the Joint Terrorism Task Force they call it, quote, 285 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: the nation's front line of defense against terrorism, whether it's 286 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: domestic terrorism or international terrorism. They're highly trained, locally based, 287 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: and again this is the federal government's wording. Highly trained, 288 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: local based, passionately committed investigative analysts, linguists, and other specialists 289 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: from dozens of US law enforcement and intelligence agencies. When 290 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: it comes to investigating terrorism, they do it all. Chase down, lead, 291 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: gather evidence, make arrests, provide security for special events, collect 292 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: and share intelligence, and respond to threats and incidents at 293 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: a moment's notice. 294 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: This is the Joint. 295 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: Terrorism Task Force serves as a national resource and create 296 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: familiarity among investigators and managers before a crisis by conducting 297 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: frequent training to maintain the specialized skills, so on and 298 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: so forth. They also have what are called fusion centers, 299 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: and we have those in southern California. In fact, when 300 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: they opened one, the news media years ago was allowed 301 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: in and was able to talk to the FBI, the 302 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: sheriff's department, the local police departments, and other federal three 303 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: letter agencies and then said maybe that's not a great idea. 304 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: So then they have what's called a j RICK Joint 305 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: Regional Intelligence Center, which is a partnership between federal, state, 306 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: and local law enforcement and public safety agencies. So the 307 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: reason I the reason I bring these things up is 308 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: to remind behind us that there is this huge infrastructure 309 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 3: of incredibly dedicated, incredibly well trained, incredibly hard working law 310 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: enforcement officials at both the local, county, state, federal, and 311 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: international level whose only job is to keep us safe. 312 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: His only job is to keep us safe. Their only job. 313 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: Is to try to prevent the exact kind of attack 314 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: that happened in New Orleans with shamsu Din Jabbar and 315 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: to a lesser degree what happened in Vegas. And as 316 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: you've seen and as we've seen over and over again, 317 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: it's almost impossible to do it if you have one 318 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: person who either keeps their plans to themselves or has 319 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: a close knit circle of friends and family who aren't 320 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: willing to go to the authorities. But then, having said that, 321 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: we hear that this New Orleans suspect, you know, he's 322 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: flying the ISIS flag. He had a a web platform 323 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: on SoundCloud, an account on soundclrd under his name that 324 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 3: he posted long recordings containing extremist religious views. He went 325 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: on Facebook closer to the time of the attack, posting 326 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 3: extremist religious views. And you know, we live in an 327 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: open society. We have the First Amendment. These don't rise 328 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: to the level of threats, necessarily don't rise to the 329 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 3: level of crimes. So unless the National Security Agency is 330 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: able to monitor these kinds of postings on a twenty 331 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 3: four to seven basis and using artificial intelligence and their 332 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 3: supercomputers flagging certain words and phrases and extremist views and 333 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: then locating the person who posts them, we're just living 334 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 3: in a fantasy land that we can prevent these kind 335 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: of things. Because we talked about this on Monday and 336 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: Tuesday when I was here in advance of New Year's Eve, 337 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: and we use this term, Deborah, and I've heard you. 338 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 3: I'm sure you've heard it over and over again. There 339 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: are no credible threats. There are no credible threats. So obviously, 340 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 3: if they were making credible threats, we could do a 341 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: better job of preventing them. It's they don't make the threats, 342 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: they just act. And this is we're dealing with the 343 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 3: aftermath and the fallout and wondering what went wrong. It's 344 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: very frustrating. And again this is not a criticism of 345 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: law enforcement. I have the ultimate respect for the men 346 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: and women that dedicate their lives to keeping us safe. 347 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: But it's more of an understanding of the reality that, again, 348 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: with three hundred and thirty five million people in the 349 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 3: United States, the crazy, bad guys can sneak under the radar, 350 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: fly under the radar, and commit their outrageous acts of 351 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 3: terrorism without law enforcement apparatus being aware of them or 352 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 3: being able to prevent that in advance. 353 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 7: And some people just come across so normal that you 354 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 7: would never have a clue. 355 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: Nobody would have a clue. 356 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 7: I mean, look, we could be working with somebody that's 357 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 7: crazy and we have no idea, and then the next 358 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 7: day something crazy happens, which is really scary to think 359 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 7: about it. 360 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so do we live our lives in a 361 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 3: mode of fear or do we live our lives saying 362 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: I'm not going to let the bad guys get me down. 363 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 3: Is there a sort of a compromise between those two extremes. 364 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 3: I think there is. It's you know, being aware of 365 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: your surroundings, being aware of you know, who might be 366 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 3: doing what you in your world. But again you know, 367 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: beautiful day here in southern California. We're all feeling good about, 368 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 3: you know, come off of the New Year's looking forward to, 369 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: you know, great things hopefully for ourselves and our family 370 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 3: and our friends and our coworkers and our loved ones in. 371 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five. 372 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 3: But there are people who hate our way of life 373 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 3: and are determined to do what they can to harm us. 374 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: And it's an unfortunate reality. And that's why the news 375 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: business exists. 376 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI Am. 377 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: Six forty so I'm Phil Schumann in for John Coe. 378 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: Belt with you until four o'clock this afternoon as well 379 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: as tomorrow. 380 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: John. 381 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: We'll be back in the big chair on Monday, taking 382 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 3: some well deserved time off over the holidays. Unfortunately holidays 383 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: where if you follow the news business as we all 384 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 3: do here, and if you do, if you're taking the 385 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: time to listen to us here on KFI, god's been 386 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: dominated by the deaths of about fourteen of fourteen people 387 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 3: in New Orleans with this attack terror attack with a 388 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: truck driving through a crowd in the early morning of 389 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 3: New Year's and then, of course the bizarre story in 390 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: Las Vegas, where a Green Beret, an elite United States 391 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: Army Green beret, blew himself up in a Tesla truck 392 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 3: in the Valet parking area of the Trump International Hotel 393 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: in Las Vegas. 394 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: Again very frightening. 395 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 3: The good news is he just killed himself and didn't 396 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 3: kill anybody else, although I'm sure he intended to do that. 397 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: About forty million people visit Las Vegas every year. We've 398 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: all been there, right. Some people love it, some people don't. 399 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: Forty million people. One of those who was visiting Las 400 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: Vegas for the holidays from here in Orange County, California 401 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: was Dallas Aimer. Can I call you, Dallas. Thanks for 402 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: joining us this afternoon. I'm sure the past two days 403 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: have been very upsetting. Can you tell us what you 404 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 3: remember about the incident there at the Trump Hotel? 405 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 8: Of course, yeah, So it's great to be on with you. 406 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 8: So we were startled awake about eight thirty in the 407 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 8: morning on New Year's morning, sounded like a sonic boom 408 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 8: from a fighter jet or even a car backfire, just 409 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 8: much bigger, and then quickly to try to call it 410 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 8: the front desk to see what was happening. No responses 411 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 8: no feedback whatsoever, no communication. So me and my wife 412 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 8: my daughter decided to pack up and get out of 413 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 8: the room as quickly as possible. Again no communication. So 414 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 8: we once we exited the room, we saw smoke in 415 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 8: the hallway and then tried to get on the elevator. 416 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 8: Elevators were not working, so we had to walk down 417 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 8: fifty six flights of stairs once outside, fifty six flights 418 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 8: of stairs with a six year old daughter. It's no fun, 419 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 8: but I had to do it. Once outside, we talked 420 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 8: to a police officer. They would not let us back 421 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 8: up for any reason, and they just kind of escorted 422 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 8: us across the nearby parking lot of barely any details, 423 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 8: no safety protocols, no plans, just to hey, just go 424 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 8: give the police officers your name, your phone number, and 425 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 8: you can leave. Well, our car was stuck in the 426 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 8: ballet for the next twenty four hours. Then we couldn't 427 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 8: get out, so we had to go get a new 428 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 8: room at the Resorts World next door and saying an 429 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 8: extra day, miss work, whatever it was, and just try 430 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 8: to find out something happened, and then that's all that 431 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 8: we can know, honestly. 432 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: So obviously this was very frightening because you know no 433 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 3: information and you don't know like what else might happen? Right, 434 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 3: and you have a six year old with you, I mean, 435 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: what do you tell her? People I'm assuming are in 436 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 3: a near paniced state. They'd heard what happened in New Orleans? 437 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 2: How are you? How did you deal with all that? 438 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 8: It's just taking it one step at a time. Really mean. 439 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 8: The farewell is where everyone just kind of congregated and 440 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 8: just told whatever misinformation we could possibly share with each 441 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 8: other based on their own experiences. Yeah, we knew nothing. 442 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 8: I mean, there was no communication from the hotel, no calls, nothing. 443 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 8: We just all said, you know what, hey, they're smoking, 444 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 8: the hallways, elevators don't work. There was allowed some kind 445 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 8: of a bang or explosion of some kind. We didn't 446 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 8: know else, I mean, and so all we knew was 447 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 8: we had to get out of some kind. So we 448 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 8: just ran as fast as we could down the stairs. 449 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 8: Everyone it just kind of it was just a chaotic 450 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 8: mess in the stairwells, and then the parking lot next 451 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 8: door was just everyone telling their own kind of stories. 452 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 8: And that was it. 453 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 2: So do you mind me asking what do you do 454 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: for a living? 455 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 8: I worked as an analyst of Irvine in Irvine. 456 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 3: So would you consider yourself someone who follows the news closely? 457 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: You're obviously aware of, you know, current events, and have 458 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 3: you tried to put this in any kind of context 459 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 3: to give it, you know, have you had time to 460 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: think about this? I mean, we don't know as much 461 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: about this Livelsburg or this green beret in Vegas as 462 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: we do so far about this suspect in New Orleans, 463 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: But it just seems like it's radical. Isis terrorism attacking 464 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: our quote unquote western way of life? 465 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 8: Honestly, I have a hitch chance too. It's mostly been 466 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 8: just in a survival mode. Keep my family safe, just 467 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 8: try to figure out if there's anything else happening, piece 468 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 8: together or whatever information I can, and just keep my 469 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 8: family safe, keep my daughter informed as possible, you though, 470 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 8: she can't really quite understand everything, So just try and 471 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 8: see what did you get back home? 472 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 4: Well? 473 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting because you know, one of the 474 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 3: things we often do in the news business, and we 475 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 3: have experts on to talk about how you share this 476 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: kind of information with children, how much you tell them 477 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 3: and and and what level of detail. So did you 478 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: sort of rely on your own sense of what she 479 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: couldn't handle, or did you get any expert advice on this? 480 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 3: And how did you deal with your daughter and this 481 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: this news. 482 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 8: It's really just piecemealing it together as much as possible. 483 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 8: At first, we only knew there was a car on fire, 484 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 8: and that's the only thing that we could hear from 485 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 8: anybody else. After that, it was sort of like piece 486 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 8: meal and just try to break it into her really slowly. 487 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 8: She kind of understands it now, but not from a 488 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 8: full perspective. 489 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: No, we're talking with Dallas Amor from Orange County, who 490 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 3: was visiting Las Vegas for the holidays and was in 491 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 3: his hotel room with his wife and daughter when that 492 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 3: Tesla truck blew up Wednesday morning. In general, do you 493 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: before this say the event? And I was talking about 494 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 3: this earlier in the in the hour. Do you feel 495 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: safe in southern California? 496 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 8: I do, yeah, Actually from where we live in San Clemente, 497 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 8: we're in Orange County. We're very safe and we would 498 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 8: feel safer there than almost anywhere else than Los Angeles, 499 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 8: Yes for sure. 500 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 4: Yes. 501 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: And did you move there? Have you lived there a 502 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: long time or did you move there? Is that part 503 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 3: of your thinking? 504 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 8: We actually picked a place there about six or so 505 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 8: years ago that's relatively safe. We knew Irvine was a 506 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 8: very safe area, right, so we kind of corregated around 507 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 8: there found our home in same for many. 508 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 3: Well, Dallas Amer, you know this is a story that, 509 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: of course you'll have to tell something that you wish 510 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 3: had never happened. I'm glad that you and everybody else 511 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: there is safe and that you made it out and 512 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: home safely, and that it was just this one, a 513 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 3: crazed individual that committed this act and took his own life. 514 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 2: But thanks for sharing this with us. 515 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: Hopefully, you know, you never have to go through anything 516 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 3: like that again. 517 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 8: To state the obvious, right, yeah, exactly. I hope we 518 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 8: never have to go through it again. But you know, 519 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 8: it's just going to be aware and on your toes. 520 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 2: Thank you, Dallas Amer, appreciate it. 521 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 3: And just we're wrapping up, we're talking about this cyber 522 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: truck explosion outside the Trump Hotel in Vegas. 523 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 2: You remember if you were with us at the top of. 524 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 3: The hour, ABC News reporter Olivia Rubin raised a point 525 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: that many have been raising, is what is the connection, 526 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: if any, to the Trump administration where his key advisor 527 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 3: the unofficial Vice President Elon Musk of course, with the 528 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: Tesla truck. I mean, the suspected terrorist drove the Tesla, 529 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 3: which was rented, by the way, from a ride sharing 530 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: app which we're going to get into a little bit later, 531 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 3: the same app in which the New Orleans truck attacker 532 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: used to rent his truck. This suspected terrorists shot himself 533 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: in the head before the truck blew up, which is great, 534 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: and he was apparently burned so badly that they had 535 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 3: to identify him from his tattoos. And what also is 536 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 3: so remarkable about this is that he was a Green Beret. 537 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 3: Green Beret, as I'm sure you know from movies, from 538 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: your own reading from TV shows, one of the most 539 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: elite members of the Special Forces of US Armed Forces 540 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: that there are. They specialize in counter terrorism, ironically in 541 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: hostage rescues and reconnaissance and covert insertions into foreign countries. 542 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: They operate in any environment. 543 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 3: And the point is the screening, the testing, the psychological 544 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 3: evaluation of these candidates is intense extensive. 545 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: They're the elite of the elite. 546 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: So how someone who could have been a Green Beret 547 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: somehow went off the rails in such a violent way 548 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: and became so disillusioned and so radicalized. Is one of 549 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: the many questions that hopefully people will answer, not just 550 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: to learn about this guy, but to try to prevent 551 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: this from happening again in the future. All Right, I'm 552 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: Phil Schuman in for John Coleblt when we come back. 553 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: How many times have we heard this? If you see something, 554 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: say something, is that anything more than a slogan? Sadly 555 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 3: maybe it is. 556 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI Am sixty. 557 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I'd love 558 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: for you to let us know what you think. And 559 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: how do we do that. You click on the microphone 560 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: icon if you're listening on the app, and you can 561 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: record a message and then we can actually play that 562 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 3: on the radio or on the app or wherever it 563 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: is that you're listening. Isn't that exciting? I'd love for 564 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: you to do that. It's been a little slow. We 565 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 3: call that the talkback feature. It's been a little slow, 566 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: but love to get some of your thoughts and opinions 567 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: on what we've been talking about. The frightening terrorist attacks 568 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: that we saw in New Orleans and we saw in Vegas, 569 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: and then the questions that we've been dealing with is 570 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: you know what to do about them. It's so much 571 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: of a sort of a diversion from the beautiful seventy 572 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 3: something degree day that we're enjoying here in Southern California, 573 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 3: the second day of the new year, as people probably 574 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: wind up their vacations or their time off from work 575 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: and get ready to deal with another weekend coming up, 576 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: and then probably back to a reality on Monday, if 577 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: you're fortunate enough to have some time off during the holidays. 578 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: This cloud of terrorism, you know, it just never seems 579 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 3: to leave us here. 580 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: In southern California. 581 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 3: We're all too aware of crime, and you know that 582 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 3: sort of the first step in that escalating, escalating scale 583 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 3: of fear. I remember nineteen I guess the nineteen seventies, 584 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: a young Phil Schuman going to college in Massachusetts, and 585 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: I took a course called terrorism. I mean, this was 586 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: back when the word was still in a relatively new 587 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: to the to most of us, and it certainly wasn't 588 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: you know, a widely accepted area of study or something 589 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: that law enforcement on the local or state level spent 590 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: a lot of time dealing with But you know, and 591 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: there was all these debates over the past couple of days, 592 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: was this was this a terrorist incident? All the reporters, 593 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 3: you know, police or law enforcement is calling this, labeling this, 594 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 3: referring to this as a terrorist in or not. Obviously, 595 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 3: what we know now it's a terrorist incident. What's the 596 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: definition of terrorism or a good definition of terrorism? The 597 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians in 598 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: the pursuit of political aims. The unlawful use of violence 599 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 3: and intimidation, especially against civilians in the pursuit of political aims. Well, 600 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: I think those two incidents and so many unfortunately before, 601 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 3: certainly fit that definition. So how many times you've been 602 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 3: watching the news and you see the news conference with 603 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: the police or the sheriff's department or any other law 604 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: enforcement official and they say, we just urge people if 605 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: you see something, say something. And every time I hear that, 606 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god. It's like, you know, if 607 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: you go into the airport on Christmas Day, leave early. 608 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: If it's one hundred and thirty degrees outside, keep some 609 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: water with you. You know, if it's forty degrees below zero, 610 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: don't leave your pet outside, like it's in that category 611 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: of like, really, that's the best you got for me. 612 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: But the problem with it is that people don't say something. 613 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 3: So it's actually an official campaign from the Department of 614 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 3: Homeland Security. They call it a program If you See Something, 615 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 3: Say Something program, and its mission is to raise public 616 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: awareness in two primary areas. So pay attention to this 617 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 3: because you know, you may be rolling your eyes, you 618 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 3: may be. 619 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: Laughing, Oh yeah, if you see something, say something. 620 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: But the reality is if you do see something and 621 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 3: you pick up the phone, you might save some lives. 622 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: I mean, back in twenty fifteen, in that riverside or 623 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 3: that rather that Sam Bernardino terrorist attacked by that couple 624 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: that killed fourteen people, there are apparently plenty of signs, 625 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: but I remember in covering that and going to the 626 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: neighborhoods where the people lived, they're saying, well, you know, 627 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: we didn't want to profile Muslims. We didn't want to 628 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: be accused of discrimination, which is a very real concern. 629 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 3: But where do you draw that line. Where do you 630 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 3: make the decision I'm going to pick up the phone 631 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 3: and call somebody. So again, we're not just trying to 632 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 3: scare you here. We're trying to give you some news. 633 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 3: You can use some information, some helpful facts and figures 634 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 3: that what keep us safer. Let us enjoy our lives 635 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 3: here in southern California rather than live in fear. So 636 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 3: here's the question. If you see something, say something, well, 637 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 3: what is something? So they actually give you a breakdown 638 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: in a chart that they encourage you to download or 639 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 3: print out. This again, is from the Department of Homeland 640 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 3: Service's website. 641 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 2: To Homeland Security website. Suspicious activity is. 642 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 3: Any observed behavior that may indicate pre operational planning or 643 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 3: planning associated with terrorism or terrorism related crimes. 644 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 2: Okay. 645 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 3: It also goes on to tell us that factors such 646 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 3: as raith, race, ethnicity, gender, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability, 647 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 3: or gender identity are not in themselves suspicious. 648 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So what does suspicious activity look like? 649 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 3: Threats communicating a spoken or written threat to commit a 650 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 3: crime that could harmor kill people or damage a facility 651 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 3: or a secured site. That's definitely suspicious activity. A prolonged 652 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 3: or unusual interest in facilities, buildings, or infrastructure beyond casual 653 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 3: or professional interests. 654 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: That's right. 655 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 3: I mean to see someone you know sitting outside the 656 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: federal building in downtown Los Angeles with cameras taking picture 657 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 3: after picture after picture of the entrance and the security procedures. 658 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: That suspicious activity. 659 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 3: The same thing with, you know, just surveillance, people sitting 660 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 3: outside a building without explanations for a prolonged time, stealing 661 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 3: equipment like police uniforms or badges that belong to a 662 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 3: facility or a secured site or an agency, or going on. 663 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 2: We're listing suspicious activities. 664 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 3: Give you wonder, Okay, if I see something, if you 665 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 3: see something, say something, well, what is quote unquote something 666 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 3: Someone challenging a facility security or even their computer security 667 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: or IT systems to sort of probe the strengths or 668 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 3: weaknesses of a target. Operating an aircraft that poses a 669 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 3: threat over secure areas, and that's an obvious one. Unauthorized 670 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 3: people trying to enter a restricted area, or impersonating an 671 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 3: authorized person, listening information about personnel Beyond more curiosity, cyber 672 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: attacks obviously a suspicious activity. Recruiting people to commit crimes 673 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 3: or to commit hate crimes, or to participate in criminal activity. 674 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,959 Speaker 2: I mean, the list goes on and on. 675 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 3: Collecting weapons, stockpiling weapons, not just handguns, say explosives, chemicals, 676 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: other destructive materials. So it's you know, they say, do 677 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 3: not respect respect and even how you would do this. 678 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 3: Do not report suspicious activity to the Department of Homeland Security. 679 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 3: Instead notify law enforcement. So we all know about nine 680 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 3: one one, but nine one one is really reserved for 681 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 3: emergencies happening right now, and so we can't call nine 682 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: one one to test this system. But a very real 683 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 3: question is, you know, what is the way to report 684 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 3: suspicious activity. 685 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 2: So there are local tip lines. 686 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 3: If it's obviously an emergency, you see someone in the 687 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 3: in the in the process of doing something, you call 688 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 3: nine one one. But in California, for example, there's numerous 689 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 3: tip lines and you can look them up by by region. 690 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 3: Law enforcement typically has seven digit phone numbers. Now the 691 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 3: question then comes beyond that, and you know you can. 692 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: Only do so much. 693 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 3: Is if you reach someone, say at the desk of 694 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 3: the Van I's Division, and you say, hey, you know, 695 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: I saw this guy sitting in a outside the courthouse 696 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 3: and he had a camera and he was photographing the 697 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: entrance and he was photographing people coming and going. You've 698 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 3: done your part. What they do beyond that is a question. 699 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 3: That you know, we can't be responsible for. But I 700 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 3: guess the bottom line is, if you see something, say something. 701 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 3: It sounds like a cheesy, cheap slogan that we've heard 702 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: for years, but it actually can have impact if you 703 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 3: do see something and say something in the way, whether 704 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: it's a nine to one to one call or calling 705 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 3: your local police station, sheriff station, or even talking to 706 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 3: someone that you might know, connect to law enforcement and 707 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 3: say hey, this doesn't seem right to me, or go 708 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 3: online and look up, you know, crime stoppers numbers, and 709 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 3: again it's then it's on the law enforcement part to 710 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 3: follow up on that and hopefully you won't hear about 711 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 3: it and say, you know, it's funny I had called 712 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 3: and spoke with someone about this a week ago, and 713 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 3: then there was some attack and we learned that nothing 714 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 3: was done. Now, did either of the these suspects in 715 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 3: both New Orleans and Vegas exhibit warning signs, threatening behavior, 716 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 3: terrorist potential? Apparently the answer is yes, posting online, talking 717 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 3: with friends and family members, and as far as we 718 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 3: know at this point, nobody saw, nobody said anything if 719 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 3: they saw something. 720 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 2: It's a lot to digest. 721 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 3: And it's a lot of responsibility that we take on 722 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 3: as as citizens, but we have to do our part right. 723 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 3: We can't live our lives with our head in the sand. 724 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: At the same time, we can't live our lives in fear. 725 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 3: So we have to draw some sort of happy medium there. 726 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 3: Be aware of our surroundings, be responsible citizens, and do 727 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 3: our part to keep everyone safe. 728 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: That's I guess that. 729 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 3: We would call that my January second sermon for a 730 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 3: Thursday afternoon. It just is so upsetting that we have 731 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: to deal with these two things at the start of 732 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 3: the new year. 733 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 2: All right, I'm Philschuman in for John Cobalt. 734 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 3: As I mentioned, always happy to be sitting here talking 735 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 3: with you on KFI. Been a huge fan of talk 736 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 3: radio or now we call it audio or streaming audio. 737 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 3: My whole life still have I know Debora probably smile 738 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 3: at this. Have the you know am FM clock radio 739 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 3: with the the ear piece, you know, next to my 740 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 3: bed because I can't sleep and I wake up and 741 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 3: I listen to you know, Amy King and then Handle 742 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 3: and then Channon. 743 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 2: And Gary and you know, the whole group all day long. 744 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 3: I need, I definitely need a life. But this is 745 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 3: part of my life, and this is part of something 746 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 3: that I'm really enjoying doing. You know, I've stepped back 747 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 3: from the full time reporting on Fox eleven News, you know, 748 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 3: because I'm not a young man, and this is a 749 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 3: great opportunity to stay in touch, stay connected and do 750 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 3: something new, because you know, when we're in the news business, right, 751 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: what do we not do? We don't really give our 752 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 3: own opinions. We're unbiased, We're straight down the middle. We're 753 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 3: side this side and then the other side. But here 754 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 3: on KFI and we get to, you know, share a 755 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 3: little bit more about what we think. 756 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 2: Yes, you do, and John gets on this side of. 757 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 3: The control room and the studio on your side where 758 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 3: you're in the news department. 759 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 2: It's straight down the middle. Right, It is all right, 760 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 2: Deborah Mark, it is all yours. All right. 761 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. 762 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: You can always hear the show live on KFI Am 763 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 764 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.