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Speaker 1: Hello there, Happy September, Happy day after Labor Day. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm coming to you on a Tuesday morning. I think

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Speaker 1: I'll let you know last week. We're going to have

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Speaker 1: our same three episode upload this week, but instead of Monday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: we're going to do Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Gave everybody a

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Speaker 1: breather on Labor Day. I've got a very full episode, serious, unseerious,

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Speaker 1: and everything in between. I will be the interview today.

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Speaker 1: Congressman from Florida, Jared Moskowitz. He is somebody who we

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Speaker 1: it's fascinating. He is really trying to keep that center

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Speaker 1: left lane of the Democratic Party active. We go down

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Speaker 1: a number of roads, have some interesting conversations about his

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Speaker 1: potential future in Florida, what's happening and redistricting, what's happening

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Speaker 1: in Israel. I promise you, if you're engaged on any

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Speaker 1: of those debates, you're going to want to hear what

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Speaker 1: Jared Moscowitz has to say. It was fascinating. He's also

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Speaker 1: the former head of FEMA for the state of essentially

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Speaker 1: head of emergency Management for the State of Florida, did

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Speaker 1: so in the first Dissanti's term. Like this is how

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Speaker 1: far we've come. It wasn't that long ago that disaster

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Speaker 1: response was something you didn't politicize. You went out of

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Speaker 1: your way to be bipartisan about it. Even Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 1: did this. And so, you know, talking about what's happening

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Speaker 1: a few FEMA staffers raise some concerns publicly and they've

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Speaker 1: been they've been moved out of their jobs for at

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Speaker 1: all saying, you know, somehow contradicting the message there is.

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Speaker 1: It is crystal clear the First Amendment does not apply

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Speaker 1: to anybody working in government if you speak out against

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. They the First Amendment is certainly not something

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Speaker 1: that the Trump White House is concerned about. Maybe they're

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Speaker 1: just daring any individual that is pushed out due to speech,

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Speaker 1: which again protected by the Constitution. We'll see. I guess

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Speaker 1: they just assume by the time the lawsuit is filed,

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Speaker 1: they get to move on and in the meantime they

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Speaker 1: continue their political purge of non political spaces. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: Jared Moscowitz, trust me, it's a terrific conversation. If you

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Speaker 1: are curious about the future, the ideological future of the party,

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Speaker 1: what's happening in Israel. What about this fight about redistricting

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Speaker 1: Jared moscuits and I cover the whole gambit. Also, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to do a bit of a deep dive on

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Speaker 1: the disaster that's taking place at the CDC. What Kennedy

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Speaker 1: is doing, the tariff issue Russia over the weekend, over

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Speaker 1: the last week. I mean this in itself, I mean

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Speaker 1: the summit, the Alaska summit. Now we now know a

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Speaker 1: complete and total failure. Trump was played by Putin the

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Speaker 1: entire time. How do we know this? Putin has now

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Speaker 1: launched air strikes against Western resources in Ukraine. He had

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Speaker 1: an American factory that makes coffeemakers, by the way, but

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Speaker 1: also hit diplomatic offices in the western part in a

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Speaker 1: town in Ukraine called Mukachivo. It's a city that's so

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Speaker 1: far away from the front lines they had no curfew.

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Speaker 1: In fact, when the first missile hit, the mayor thought

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Speaker 1: it was thunder. That's how far away from the war

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Speaker 1: this particular town. But Putin went out of his way

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Speaker 1: to send a message to the West. I'm not capitulating

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Speaker 1: at all. I'm not negotiating. I am thumbing my nose

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Speaker 1: at everything that Donald Trump and the European leaders perhaps

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Speaker 1: proof I guess that Steve Wikoff truly doesn't either know

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Speaker 1: because this has turned out to be the Alaska summit now,

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Speaker 1: may have actually led to a step back because at

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Speaker 1: a message that Putin can walk all over you, and

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Speaker 1: then Putin can walk all over us. So it's a

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Speaker 1: dangerous situation there. Obviously, I am in a I told

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Speaker 1: you my mood would be impacted by my Hurricanes football.

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot to say about that, but I

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Speaker 1: will wait, Like I said, the less serious I'll do

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Speaker 1: that towards the end of the pod here after the

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Speaker 1: interview for those of you that listened to everything as one,

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Speaker 1: exactly how I look at politics as well. But I

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Speaker 1: want to begin with the fact that here we are,

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Speaker 1: it's the day after Labor Day, and in many ways,

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Speaker 1: this is the second first day of the year. Why

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Speaker 1: you have your New Year's resolutions, and certainly you have

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Speaker 1: Major initiatives usually don't get passed in the summer, usually

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Speaker 1: in Washington, every September comes a new debate about whether

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Speaker 1: or not we're going to shut down the government, and

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Speaker 1: later this week I want to get in. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to dive deep into the political dilemma that I think

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Speaker 1: push back on the spending decisions, whether they should force

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Speaker 1: a shutdown or not. I think it was plainly obvious

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Speaker 1: six months ago in the midst of Doge that being

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Speaker 1: the party that forced a shutdown was going to be

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Speaker 1: extraordinarily bad politics. Has that changed? Could they be in

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Speaker 1: a different place? Those stories and more in the next

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Speaker 1: edition of the Check podcast. The point is, I think

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Speaker 1: shutcase this time when it comes to politically, how if

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Speaker 1: Democrats do want to force a shutdown, there might be

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Speaker 1: some ways politically that it's smart. And then of course

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Speaker 1: there are plenty of reasons why it is high risk.

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Speaker 1: But what I really want to start with is what

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Speaker 1: I think is the final test of whatever remains of

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party pre Trump. What do I mean, Look,

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Speaker 1: Of course I've said this before. He had staffers inside

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Speaker 1: whether it was the Chief of Staff rights previous, his

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Speaker 1: all that mean? It just allowed, you know, it gave

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Speaker 1: Right these were he was getting criticized left, right and center.

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Speaker 1: Fast forward to this Trump second term and the criticism

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Speaker 1: Right there isn't The business community has essentially capitulated. Whatever

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Speaker 1: But again, there's an interesting test that I think is

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Speaker 1: That's kind of I guess how I would describe Rubio investment.

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Speaker 1: we have the big court cases. By the way, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to set up a Supreme Court showdown. Trump's trying

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Speaker 1: it's interesting that Trump is bullying the Supreme Court here,

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Speaker 1: to impose these tariffs, because I don't know what kind

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Speaker 1: Party doesn't want to be accused of raising taxes, and

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what they would be doing if they did that.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps they'll just come up with a rewording of the

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Speaker 1: a stroke or a heart attack. But there's clearly some

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Speaker 1: health issues. We've seen the ankles, we've seen these pictures.

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Speaker 1: Something is afoot. They're not they haven't been showing us.

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Speaker 1: So I do think they're susceptible feed and frenzy. And

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Speaker 1: look the next couple of weeks. In theory, we're supposed

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Speaker 1: to see him a lot, interact with quite a few

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Speaker 1: world leaders. The UN General Assembly will be meeting in

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Speaker 1: the next week or two, and there's a ton of

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Speaker 1: world leaders that come to the United States. So one

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Speaker 1: would assume we're going to see him a lot, and

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Speaker 1: if we don't, if he limits how much we see him,

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Speaker 1: I do think that is going to trigger a feeding

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Speaker 1: frenzy on his personal health that they're going to have

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Speaker 1: a hard time containing. Because again, they're the you know,

444
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Speaker 1: they they've they're the group that's been manufacturing this nonsense

445
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Speaker 1: about everybody else for a decade, and now we're going

446
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Speaker 1: to see that they're going to wish they respected the

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Speaker 1: privacy of others when it came to their health, because

448
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Speaker 1: it's not going to be in there. But to go

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Speaker 1: back to the to my central point here is, look,

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Speaker 1: maybe some of you are going to think I'm being

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Speaker 1: naive to a that there's still another wing of the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party that Trump hasn't totally taken over. I take

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Speaker 1: some of these Republicans at their word that they're not Trumpets,

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Speaker 1: that they don't like this state capitalism, which some people

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Speaker 1: think looks like socialism that they don't like a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that he's done on the fiscal front. They

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Speaker 1: don't like these health conspiracies that he enables with Bobby Kennedy,

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Speaker 1: and they certainly don't like his passiveness when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the Russians and Putin in particular. Well, they have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity, right the next sixty days, are we going

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Speaker 1: to see this is not a popular president. Yes, he's

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Speaker 1: popular in the Republican Party, but these Republicans are never

463
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Speaker 1: going to be maga Republicans. How badly do they want

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Speaker 1: to keep their job and how badly do they want

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Speaker 1: to be seen as actually fighting for the public before

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Speaker 1: their party. You know, Bill Cassid, if you care about

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Speaker 1: your Senate see and you still want to keep hope

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Speaker 1: alive on that leave the Republican Party, become an independent,

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Speaker 1: that's where you'd want to be. Anyway. He flirted with

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Speaker 1: no labels. He took some calls with no labels when

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Speaker 1: they were looking for a presidential candidate in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: He knows this Republican Party is not good for him,

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Speaker 1: and he's good. He has very little chance of surviving

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Speaker 1: a Republican primary in Louisiana. John Cornyn is struggling, and

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Speaker 1: he's got character on his side. Right, Ken Paxton has

476
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Speaker 1: got every negative thing you could possibly have going for

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Speaker 1: you in a republic and any primary except he's pro

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Speaker 1: MAGA and Cornyn has not seen his MEGA. But if

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Speaker 1: corn and Cassidy gave two shits at all about their

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Speaker 1: principles of what they cared about about limited government, about expertise,

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Speaker 1: about caring about the business community, caring about the everyday

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Speaker 1: lives of consumers, believing in science both of them do,

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Speaker 1: they'd leave the Republican and run as independence for the

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Speaker 1: US Senate. I think they could both win in their

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Speaker 1: respective say. They could get enough Republicans and probably probably

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Speaker 1: get a lion's share of at least of Democrats if

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Speaker 1: that was the choice, a MAGA senator or a non

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Speaker 1: MAGA senator. I think in some of these red states

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Speaker 1: the left needs to be thinking in those terms. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they're prepared to do that yet, but

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Speaker 1: they're not even being offered that opportunity to make that

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Speaker 1: decision because we haven't seen if Cassidy or Cornyn has

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Speaker 1: the testicular fortitude to do this. We know who does

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Speaker 1: Lisa Murkowski. I'll let you guys make the jokes about

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Speaker 1: who's got more testicular fortitude to take on the Maga

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Speaker 1: wing of the Republican Party. But I think Lisa Murkowski

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Speaker 1: has proven she's got it. The question is any of

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Speaker 1: these other Senators John Curtis, Mike Crapo, John Hoven, Pete Ricketts,

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Speaker 1: Deb Fisher, Jerry Moran, Chuck Grassley, Joni Earns, Todd Young,

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Speaker 1: Roger Marshall, John Cornyn, John Thune, Mike Grounds, Mitch McConnell,

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Speaker 1: Bill Cassidy, Susan Collins, Katie Britt, Roger Wicker, Tom Tillis.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, none of them, None of them buy in,

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Speaker 1: none of them. All of them would have run against

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Speaker 1: this stuff had it shown up in a primary before

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump came around. They had a push back on tariffs,

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Speaker 1: they had to push back on appeasement of putin, which

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Speaker 1: most of them actually do right now, and they'd have

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Speaker 1: been pro science when it comes to public health. Is

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Speaker 1: there any anything left here? Is there anything left with

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Speaker 1: this group of people? Do they all want to show?

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Speaker 1: In fact, if they actually got together, they'd have real strength.

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Speaker 1: But they're the ones that should be on the spot here.

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Speaker 1: They're the ones that decided to capitulate and confirm a

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Speaker 1: cabinet secretary that everybody warned them was going to be

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Speaker 1: a disaster in Robert Kennedy Junior. And I know because

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Speaker 1: Schumer called for him to be fired. If it looks

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Speaker 1: like you're jumping on that bandwagon, you look like you're

518
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Speaker 1: quote siding with the Democrats. This isn't about Democrats versus Republicans.

519
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Speaker 1: This is about life and death. This is about being

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Speaker 1: a normal country that doesn't live in a world of

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Speaker 1: quarantines or not. You know, I think part of the problem.

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Speaker 1: And Kennedy grew up in an era where actually because

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Speaker 1: my father got a lot of these childhood diseases in

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Speaker 1: the fifties and in the sixties, and they would put

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Speaker 1: these back then. If you got one of these before

526
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Speaker 1: we got a vaccine for them, mumps, measles, those things,

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Speaker 1: you know, you got something to put on your house

528
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Speaker 1: that said quarantine. You know, sort of basically you got

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Speaker 1: the cooties stay away, okay. And we have no memory

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Speaker 1: of this. There's this younger court two generations later. It's

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Speaker 1: an astonishing amount of people have no memory of what

532
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Speaker 1: life was like when we didn't have these vaccines when

533
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Speaker 1: you would just have people die of this stuff. Oh,

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Speaker 1: somebody died of the measles in the neighborhood. Somebody died

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Speaker 1: of polio. It is alarming that we've had to get

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Speaker 1: to this point, But kudos to those CDC officials who

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Speaker 1: decided to make sure the world knew the crazy that

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Speaker 1: was taking place from Kennedy and his minions by resigning

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Speaker 1: in Moss and by the CDC director refusing to resign.

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Speaker 1: Those two things together brought the necessary attention. That's how

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Speaker 1: you do it if you're sitting in government. Don't quietly resign,

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Speaker 1: try to find a group, do it loudly and proudly.

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Speaker 1: Make sure the public knows what's going on. So huge

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Speaker 1: credit to those brave patriots at the CDC, who, by

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Speaker 1: the way, are still waiting for the President to acknowledge

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Speaker 1: the fact that some crazy lunatic who was misinformed with

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Speaker 1: COVID misinformation shot up the place. I'm glad the President

548
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Speaker 1: decided to lower flags to half staff when it came

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Speaker 1: to what happened to the in Minnesota last week, and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to know that he put out a statement.

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Speaker 1: I know he tweets all the time, has he still

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Speaker 1: not put anything out on the Gunman then attacked the

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Speaker 1: CDC scientists. I know he's got a rant today saying

554
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Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical companies have to prove these COVID vaccines work.

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Speaker 1: How about Kennedy's got to prove they don't. We already

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Speaker 1: have the signed they already have. You don't get a

557
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Speaker 1: shot in the arm if they're not proven to work.

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Speaker 1: So it's a false that's sort of a false nose.

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Speaker 1: He's like throwing up something and oh, they've got to

560
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Speaker 1: it's already been proven. Kennedy's got to find go find it.

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Speaker 1: He can't even find bullshit science to prove this stuff

562
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Speaker 1: doesn't work. But again, we have three branches of government

563
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Speaker 1: and you can check this, but it is not going

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Speaker 1: to happen. The Democrats don't have the power to do this,

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Speaker 1: and right now they don't have the credibility with the

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Speaker 1: voters to do it on their own. Those Republicans I've

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Speaker 1: named checked they know what the right thing to do is.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, they know it. I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: these people very well. In some cases, they know what

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Speaker 1: the right thing to do is. It's all about whether

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Speaker 1: they have the guts do they prioritize their political survival

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Speaker 1: in the short term over what could be long term

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Speaker 1: catastrophic consequences the United States and frankly for the world.

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Speaker 1: On this all right, I'm an sneak in a break,

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Speaker 1: so enjoy, all right before I get to a handful

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Speaker 1: of questions. So I went to the Notarydame Miami game.

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Speaker 1: I am relieved, if you will buy it, it was

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, that was an opening game. What do

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Speaker 1: I mean by that? There were a lot of mistakes

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Speaker 1: at both teams. Main there were a couple of things

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Speaker 1: that you could tell the playbooks were still limited. I

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Speaker 1: am very thankful that, for whatever reason, Notre Dame decided

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Speaker 1: not to give the ball to Jeremiah Love as much

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Speaker 1: as I feared they would, look he was perhaps one

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Speaker 1: of the two or three best players on either side

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Speaker 1: of the field that I saw in person there, and

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Speaker 1: yet I was stunned at how often they didn't give

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love the ball. He was the one guy that

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Speaker 1: didn't seem to get tired. I do think the offensive

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Speaker 1: line got a bit overwhelmed by the Miami defensive line,

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Speaker 1: which brings me to look Mario Crystobal, which is he

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Speaker 1: is building this team the right way. It is physically

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Speaker 1: a team that finally looks like the foundation of what

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Speaker 1: the old Miami teams that we like to talk about.

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Speaker 1: It is built inside out. Those are very powerful offensive

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Speaker 1: lines and defensive lines. We have as many first, second,

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Speaker 1: and third round picks and the offensive line and defensive

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Speaker 1: line as any of the other top five so called

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Speaker 1: big programs, right because we're spending that money and it's

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Speaker 1: now year four and all of those things. So there

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Speaker 1: was that I thought that you could see that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Mario the minute he had the opportunity to just drain

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Speaker 1: clock and essentially just went by a point. If that's

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Speaker 1: all it was, he was going to do it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Beck threw I think he threw one

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Speaker 1: pass in the final drive and that was it. I

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Speaker 1: think they it was interesting to me how they handled him.

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Speaker 1: From my perspective, I'm still not I'm still not convinced

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Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent comfortable with his elbow. Look, the

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Speaker 1: ball was always there. In fact, he's wearing number eleven,

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Speaker 1: which for old school Miami fans is Ken Dorsey's was

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Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey's number. Ken Dorsey was the quarterback of the

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Speaker 1: greatest college football team ever assembled, the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: one national champs. When you put him up against twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen LSU, some of the LSU fans will say, twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen LSU. I believe our friends at EA Sports have

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Speaker 1: put them together, and I think I think Miami wins

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Speaker 1: fifty one out of one hundred times and Burrow wins

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Speaker 1: forty nine tone Miami's Miami's defense was better than LSU's defense.

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Speaker 1: LSU's offense was better than Miami's offense, but only a

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Speaker 1: little bit better, while Miami's defense was a lot better

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Speaker 1: than the LSU defense. So I do think collectively it

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Speaker 1: was a better team. Thirty eight NFL players on that team,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I think I think they're going to

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Speaker 1: end up with seven or eight Hall of Famers off

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Speaker 1: of that two thousand and one team. Ken Dorsey was

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, and he was whatever you want to call him.

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Speaker 1: He was considered a coach on the field, a game manager.

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Speaker 1: You know, nobody ever mistaken him with this strong arm,

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Speaker 1: and yet the ball was always where it needed to be.

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Speaker 1: That's how I felt about Carson Beck. The ball was

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Speaker 1: pretty much always where it needed to be. I didn't

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Speaker 1: see a ton of zip, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that is his style, and I'll be curious as we

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Speaker 1: open up the playbook or if he's still building strength

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Speaker 1: in his elbow in order to get a little more

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Speaker 1: zip into the ball. But that was fascinating to watch

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Speaker 1: there because it is and it's interesting to see. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: he deserves right, he was checking down to runs a lot.

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Speaker 1: I got the sense that they only had a small

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Speaker 1: amount of the playbook that they've put in. Trust me,

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Speaker 1: we know this is a similar offense that cam Ward ran,

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Speaker 1: and cam Ward had his own. Essentially, he knew the

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Speaker 1: offense so well he was much more comfortable checking into

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Speaker 1: his own situations and things like that. I don't quite

646
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: see that yet out of back. That doesn't mean it's

647
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Speaker 1: not coming that set, you know, Notre Dame if they

648
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Speaker 1: are indeed in college football, you don't know for sure, right,

649
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Speaker 1: you think you're playing a top ten team by the

650
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Speaker 1: end of the year. They could be seven and five.

651
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: Were they ever a top ten team? Right? A couple

652
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Speaker 1: years ago and Miami beat Texas A and m at

653
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: Texas A and m I was like, oh, is this

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Speaker 1: a good win or not? Turned out? When that could

655
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Speaker 1: have a win. Last year against Florida, we beat the

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Speaker 1: pants off of Florida. Is that a good win? Now?

657
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Speaker 1: Maybe in the moment it was. It was a good win,

658
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Speaker 1: not a great win. So we'll see here. One other

659
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Speaker 1: observation about this weekend. Of all these big games, I

660
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Speaker 1: know everybody wants to overreact to me, the best win

661
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Speaker 1: of the weekend was LSU's because they won on the road. Right,

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Speaker 1: Miami was at home and won at home in a

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Speaker 1: close game. Ohio State was at home over Texas and

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Speaker 1: won at home in a close game. Right, Florida State

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Speaker 1: won at home. Yes, they pulled what appears to be

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Speaker 1: a massive upset, but this is another one. By the

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Speaker 1: end of the season, we may look back and say,

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Speaker 1: how Florida State shouldn't have been a two touchdown underdog

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Speaker 1: because Alabama wasn't that good. Now, I will say this,

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Speaker 1: I think this weekend was more proof that, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I want to I've been telling you what's coming with tariffs,

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Speaker 1: I've been telling you what's coming with Senate retirements and

673
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Speaker 1: people like Joni Ernst, And I'm telling you Greg Sankee's

674
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Speaker 1: view of college football is just wrong, right, and it

675
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: is bigger than the SEC, and I think he saw

676
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Speaker 1: the limits of the SEC this weekend. And this is

677
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Speaker 1: why trying to close, trying to keep others from the

678
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Speaker 1: pot of money that the Big Ten and the SEC

679
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Speaker 1: are trying to hoard all for themselves. You know, there's

680
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Speaker 1: just it's not good for the sport. This weekend was

681
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Speaker 1: great because you had teams not in the SEC and

682
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten winning big games. We've you know, you've

683
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: expanded the bandwidth here, We've expanded our palette. It only

684
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Speaker 1: makes the sport more national and less regional. This sport

685
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: is no good when it's a regional sport of Southerners

686
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Speaker 1: and Midwesterners. This sport is a lot more fun when

687
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Speaker 1: the East Coast and West Coast Utah is going to

688
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Speaker 1: be an interesting team. Keep an eye on them. They

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Speaker 1: were the other one that I think had a probably

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Speaker 1: the most impressive win that nobody's talking about because it

691
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Speaker 1: happened that game didn't kick off until eleven o'clock on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: So I am if I was seventy percent optimistic about

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Speaker 1: Miami's chances before the Notre Dame game, I've definitely moved

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Speaker 1: up to eighty percent. But man, Miami's got a tough

695
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Speaker 1: schedule coming up. We got South Florida. We got to

696
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Speaker 1: play USF, the team that boat raced Bowisey State up

697
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Speaker 1: there in Tampa last Thursday night, and then after USF

698
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Speaker 1: we played Florida. Florida has to play USF before they

699
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Speaker 1: play us So it's going to be We're going to

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Speaker 1: find a lot about all of these Florida teams in

701
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Speaker 1: the next month, and it's possible that just the state

702
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Speaker 1: of Florida is back Florida, Florida State, Miami now USF

703
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: once again, the state of Florida taking its rightful place

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Speaker 1: at the top of the college football world. All right,

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Speaker 1: let me sneak in some questions here, as Chuck. First,

706
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Speaker 1: one has to do with college sports. There you go.

707
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Speaker 1: It's Andrew from Knoxville. He says, do you think politicians

708
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Speaker 1: will start to discuss changes to NIL via legislation on

709
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Speaker 1: the campaign trail? I could see this thing being a

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Speaker 1: bigger issue in bigger states, where college athletics is a

711
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Speaker 1: major revenue source for universities and with the landscape being

712
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: more competitive, any advantage helps. This could be legislators working

713
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Speaker 1: to remove salary caps, or how the University's nil program works. Well,

714
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: look a few things Andrew to think about when it

715
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Speaker 1: comes to the idea that politicians getting involved in the

716
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Speaker 1: college sports landscape. Is it going to be politically advantageous? Well,

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Speaker 1: guess what when is election Day twenty twenty six, November?

718
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Speaker 1: What takes place in November? We're in the basically middle

719
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Speaker 1: to the end of the college football season. So if

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Speaker 1: there is high profile teams being left out or conferences,

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Speaker 1: So in theory, you know, because you'll see many of

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Speaker 1: these candidates, particularly in perhaps some of the more competitive

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Speaker 1: senate states. Right, You're gonna have an Ohio, Iowa, North

724
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Speaker 1: Carolina all. You know, all states care about their college sports.

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Speaker 1: But those those three all have fairly large programs in

726
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: different that that have a passionate fan slash voter base

727
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Speaker 1: that cares about them. So I could certainly see that

728
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: there's certainly opportunity there, But I don't think there's enough.

729
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Speaker 1: You know, I say that I don't think it's a

730
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Speaker 1: voting issue per se. Right, there's some issues that voters

731
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Speaker 1: care about but they don't vote on it. I think

732
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Speaker 1: voters care about this. I don't know if they'll vote

733
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Speaker 1: on this, but I think politicians care, and I still

734
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Speaker 1: think what you can't what you just describe here, The

735
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Speaker 1: problem is each state legislature keeps sort of upping, upping

736
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Speaker 1: the rules or getting rid of the rules when it

737
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Speaker 1: comes to nil money and stuff. So I think that's

738
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Speaker 1: why you got to have some sort of national standard,

739
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Speaker 1: and that's why I think the FEDS are going to

740
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Speaker 1: get involved in some former to have to do this.

741
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: But I go back. I don't know if you listen

742
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Speaker 1: to my interview with the more Smith, but I do

743
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: think collective bargaining is coming to college sports. And until

744
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Speaker 1: you get the collective bargaining, and once you get collective bargaining,

745
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: I think then then you'll probably be able to put

746
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Speaker 1: in a salary cap rules of the road. But in

747
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: some ways, you know, there's there's all these things that

748
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: have to happen before before we we know how what

749
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Speaker 1: what the landscape looks like. And I think until there's

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Speaker 1: collective bargaining among the players in college football and in

751
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Speaker 1: college basketball, which I think is again it there's no

752
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: right now, there's no there is no roadmap and how

753
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Speaker 1: you share media money right in the in the so

754
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: called professional leagues, the media rights essentially half the money

755
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: goes to the players, half the money goes to the

756
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: leagues and the owners. So how is it going to

757
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: work in this situation? Right? So, I do think collective

758
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: bargaining probably has to happen first. Then we'll start to

759
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: have the national legislation and all of that. Right. Next

760
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: question comes from James Any writes, I've really appreciated your

761
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Speaker 1: recent discussions and the need for a US constitutional convention,

762
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Speaker 1: especially in your conversation with Maria Camello. I also found

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Speaker 1: your suggestions about how groups like the Bush and Clinton

764
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: presidential libraries, or even former members of Congress could help

765
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Speaker 1: spearhead reforms. I'm an American who has lived in France

766
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Speaker 1: since two thousand and seven, and an smolum all right,

767
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Speaker 1: he says, I even taught French there for several years.

768
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Speaker 1: My son is taking French this semester, for what it's worth.

769
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Speaker 1: And here's what he wanted to ask. Have you considered

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Speaker 1: looking at how other democracies such as France have tried

771
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Speaker 1: to consult their citizens or adapt their constitutions in times

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Speaker 1: of political tension. For instance, during Emmanuel mccrone's first term,

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Speaker 1: France experimented with national consultations and even citizen assemblies to

774
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Speaker 1: address political and social divides. Could the US learn anything

775
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: from these examples as it considers constitutional reform. Thank you

776
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: for your work and for continuing to make for these

777
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Speaker 1: big picture conversations best chains. I honestly, I think that's

778
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: a terrific idea. I mean, when I you you're asking

779
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Speaker 1: me a bunch of questions that have the suggestions buried

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Speaker 1: in the question. The bottom line is, yes, what you're asking. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you had me at hello, I if I were if

782
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Speaker 1: I were running for president right now, and I was

783
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: trying to make the case that hey, we gotta we

784
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: got to change how we're doing this right, Like, this

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Speaker 1: entire way that we're we're communicating with the democ with

786
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Speaker 1: the with the with the electorate, this entire way we

787
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Speaker 1: legislate this, everything's got to change. And if you told

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Speaker 1: me there was a candidate out there saying, you know what,

789
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: we need it, and you know, it probably works better

790
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: if it came from some outsider, independent type, right, but

791
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: it could. I think it can happen for for a

792
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: major party candidate too, where you're like, look, we're gonna

793
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Speaker 1: we're going to create these citizens. Do what you say

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00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: citizen assemblies, and you know, maybe somebody runs it saying, look,

795
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: we got to update our constitution, and I'm going to

796
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: call for a constitutional convention. Maybe what candidate decides to

797
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: make it part of their part of their platform, and

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00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: then they have these meetups or they have these citizen

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Speaker 1: commissions that are essentially local political organization, you know, offshoots

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Speaker 1: of their larger political organization that they're trying to build.

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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, you're sort of circulating these ideas

802
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: and you're and you're getting them put forward. You know,

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Speaker 1: part of me is, you know, I know I sound

804
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Speaker 1: a little you know, sometimes I fear I I sound

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Speaker 1: like i'm I'm I'm like doing a simulation over here. Like,

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00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: you know, if we had a world, an idealistic world

807
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: where we could do these things, we're doing it over here.

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00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: I really believe that under the right circumstances, you could

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00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: engage the country in these ideas. You just have to

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00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: have a leader willing to put themselves out there to

811
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: start to start talking about it. I got convinced of

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00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: this watching watching Ross Perot go from a narcissistic businessman

813
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: who just wanted a little attention from Larry king, and

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Speaker 1: he started to enjoy it. And then he turned it

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Speaker 1: into a political movement and he was able to build something,

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Speaker 1: and he built something fairly large, right, and he put

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Speaker 1: real effort into it. You know, Trump built something, but

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Speaker 1: everybody else built it for him, right. He just sort of,

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Speaker 1: you know, gathered up all the you know, cranks and

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Speaker 1: got everybody in the same to under the same umbrella,

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Speaker 1: and and a movement was sort of created in its way.

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Speaker 1: But I think this, I think there's something to this. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think I will tell you. I may me put

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Speaker 1: it another way. We we sometimes say, look, all all

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Speaker 1: elections come down to how voters believe it received the economy.

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Speaker 1: And I'm most obviously the the you know, we can

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Speaker 1: see past results are proof of this. But if I

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Speaker 1: were to say that the second most potent issue after

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Speaker 1: the economy, you know, is usually some form of corruption

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Speaker 1: or reform, and I would be running on all things reform,

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Speaker 1: running against I would be pointing out corruption, like the

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Speaker 1: corruption with the tariffs, right, which really means you just

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Speaker 1: sort of pay off the president if you don't want

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Speaker 1: you want to, you know, if you want to make

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Speaker 1: sure you don't get a tariff or something like this

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Speaker 1: everything is so transactional. I think there is. I think

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Speaker 1: you could use a the umbrella of reform to point

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Speaker 1: out corruption, to sort of blanket look at how this

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Speaker 1: can actually impact your bottom line, can really hurt the economy,

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Speaker 1: can hurt public health, all these certainly things, But you're

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Speaker 1: sort of doing it under the umbrella of reform as

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Speaker 1: a way to stamp out corruption. It is proven in

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Speaker 1: the past to be a fairly successful path to knocking

844
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Speaker 1: off incumbent parties or incumbent officials, and so I think

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Speaker 1: wrapping yourself in some form of that makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense. Whether we could follow France's lead, I don't

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Speaker 1: know we could, but remember, I know you've lived there,

848
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Speaker 1: but you can't. We can't ever admit to the American

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Speaker 1: people that we would be doing right. It would be

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Speaker 1: seen as a nag. All right, let me sneak in one.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do two more questions here, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to do them fairly fairly fast. Jason from Ventura, California

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Speaker 1: rights Hey, check love in the longer format of the

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Speaker 1: podcast and the feistiness that's come out, keep it up.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. If you look at the history of Michigan, governors.

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Speaker 1: It is pretty evenly split between RS and d's in

857
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Speaker 1: the last one hundred years, only five times as incumbent

858
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Speaker 1: party held onto the governor's mansion my lifetime born in

859
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three, the party winning the governorship is flipped

860
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Speaker 1: from D to R without two consecutive governors from the

861
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Speaker 1: same party. Well, I like Benson and see her as

862
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Speaker 1: the heir apparent. I think Dougan is trying to avoid

863
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Speaker 1: being tied to the incumbent party in a year that

864
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Speaker 1: favors Republicans. Your interview with him was great, but I

865
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Speaker 1: don't buy that he thinks he can get more done

866
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Speaker 1: as an independent. It feels more like he's trying to

867
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Speaker 1: cheat history by being a Democrat, like options of voters

868
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Speaker 1: don't have to pick a Republican. Do you think the

869
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Speaker 1: strategy gives him an advantage keep up the good work. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think it gives I think he Look, he did

871
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Speaker 1: it for some pragmatic reasons, Right, he didn't think he

872
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: could win a primary, or he didn't want to run

873
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Speaker 1: too far to the left to win a primary on

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Speaker 1: that front. Now that's something I questioned, Right, I think

875
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Speaker 1: he could have won a primary, But you know it

876
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Speaker 1: wasn't going to be easy, and identity politics and democratic

877
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: primaries is still pretty powerful right now, and so I

878
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: think he was trying to avoid that. So I think

879
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: what he was trying to do is just to he

880
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: wanted to get to the finals without having to go

881
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Speaker 1: through without having to go through the ruggles over primary.

882
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I take your point of Look,

883
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: it's not just Michigan, right it If you look for

884
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: the most part in any of the in say twenty

885
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: to thirty states that are semi competitive, right right, we

886
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: have ten to twenty states where you have real competition

887
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: from both parties at any given time, you know where

888
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: you you but you know you could probably stretch it

889
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: to thirty where you feel like that, you know, can

890
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: each party win a statewide race at least once a decade, right,

891
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: So that is a it's a natural thing once one

892
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: party's been in charge a while. It's tough, you know,

893
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, you got to be you know, in an

894
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: environment like the one we're facing right now, where voters

895
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 1: consistently are looking for the change candidate, it is tough

896
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: to run as the incumbent party and be a change candidate, right.

897
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: I think That's that's what Jocelyn Benson is going to

898
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: struggle with. Right, We're in an environment of change, and

899
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: she's got to say, yeah, we need to change things

900
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: on the federal level, which is why we need the

901
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: status quo here in Michigan. Right, Like, that's it's just

902
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: it's a bank shot and it may work and she

903
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: may win. And I think with Dougan he can actually run.

904
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to do that awkward you know, sort

905
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: of no, no, no, it's status quo here. You know. He's like, Hey,

906
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 1: I think both parties are broken right now. We we're

907
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: sort of burned out on polarization. Look, I know I

908
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: am burned out on polarization. The question is whether I

909
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,479
Speaker 1: don't know where how many voters are in the Hey,

910
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: this is a war sort of, We're in the war

911
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: of the roses, right, and it's red and blue and

912
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: anything in between is a spoiler. And I think that's

913
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: the you know, he's got to stay viable the whole time.

914
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: The minute he doesn't look viable, or if it looks

915
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: like his candidacy makes it easier for John James to win,

916
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: and then he could run run into some problems ultimately,

917
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: if you look at the history of three way races,

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00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: they eventually are no longer a three way race at

919
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: some point, At some point, one of the three candidate's

920
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: fates and the and if the independent is not one

921
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: of the three, the fades. And normally it's the independent

922
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: of the fades. But if they're not, it means, you know,

923
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Speaker 1: one of the two major parties. In this case, I

924
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Speaker 1: just for the Democrat to fade, Dugan would need to

925
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: sort of starve Benson of financial resources. I don't think

926
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Speaker 1: that's going to happen. And I don't know if John

927
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: James is going to get starved or resources on the right,

928
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: although Dugan is does have sort of the the more

929
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: republican leaning Detroit business community standing by him, maybe that

930
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: starves James a little bit. Right, So, I'm I can

931
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: sense your skepticism of Dugan's ability to win statewide. Look,

932
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: I think he's meaning the moment. The question is is

933
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: they're a big enough constituency that shares this concern and thinks,

934
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: you know what, we need a party timeout. And I'm

935
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: vacillating on this. I'm watching the way some very center

936
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: leaning Democrats normally behave starting to rally around what Gavenusom

937
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: is doing, and it tells me that maybe we're in

938
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: a cold civil war where you know where everybody's feeling is.

939
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: If you're either on one side or the other, there

940
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: is no middle ground. And if that's the situation we're in,

941
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Speaker 1: then then I think Duggan's candidacy could struggle. All right.

942
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: Last question, this comes from Christy j Hey. Chuck loved

943
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,479
Speaker 1: the podcast after thirty three years of teaching English. I'll

944
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: always stand by two truths. Public education is the great

945
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: equalizer in teaching young people to think and analyze through literature,

946
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Speaker 1: them up for everything else. I remember debating Reagan's trickle

947
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: down economics. In my position then, as with Trump's BBB,

948
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: is that favoring the wealthy sounds workable but fails because

949
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't account for greed. Isn't it obvious that companies

950
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: moved production overseas for cheap labor and bigger profits. I'd

951
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: love to hear your take and thank you for fighting

952
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: for independent local news. Well appreciate you saying that. Look,

953
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: every know all of outsourcing, right, all of that is

954
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: about saving money, right, the move from the north to

955
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: the south manufacturing, right, We've first it went from from

956
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: labor union states to non labor American workers. That was

957
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: the sort of the Southern revival of manufacturing. Then it

958
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: went to Mexico and then those wages got too high.

959
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: Then it's moved right to Southeast Asia where it's even

960
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: less money. So yes, it's been one hundred percent. Then

961
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 1: right now, why have we why have we basically put

962
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 1: up with it because we've gotten really cheap goods, right

963
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: and ultimately the American consumer arguably has benefited. Now we

964
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: can we can have the larger debate about, you know,

965
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: whether whether this you know cheaper, you know, these great

966
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: electronics that we can get cheaper, you know, is it

967
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the day the you know, I

968
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: look at the American consumer there they also are the

969
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: American voter, right, and that's what they want. And if

970
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: you start taking that away, they're going to complain the minute.

971
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: You know, you can say, hey, you got to do

972
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: this for the good of the country. But as a

973
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: friend of mine reminded me, during World War Two, when

974
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: there was coffee rationing, Americans didn't like it at all,

975
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: and it was being done to support the troops, and

976
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: it still was pissing off American so you know, we're

977
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: we're at the end of the day, we always we

978
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: do always want our cake and eat it too on

979
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: some of these things. But yes, what you're describing, it

980
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: has always been there, which is why you want economic

981
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: policy that sort of Look, a free market is going

982
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: to look for efficiencies, and cheaper labor is part of

983
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: that efficiency, right, And eventually it's instead of cheaper human labor,

984
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: we're going to go to robotics, right, and then we're

985
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: going to go all into AI. So these efficient that's

986
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: what markets do, right. What economic policy, what lawmakers have

987
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: to do, is like how do you balance that with

988
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: what society needs and what keeps the economy a functional economy?

989
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: People do need to work, what are those new jobs,

990
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: et cetera. So I think that that's why I'm skeptical

991
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: of this attempt to bring back manufacturing because even if

992
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: you bring it back, they're not going to hire human labor. Right.

993
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: The reason the stock market is going gangbusters right now,

994
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: well is because jobs are shrinking and there isn't and

995
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: these companies aren't missing the smaller aren't missing this workforce.

996
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: The fact that they're investing in AI is making investors

997
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: happy that they're investing in a future with fewer labor costs,

998
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: which again gets to efficiency. So now, I don't think

999
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: anytime you try to force a market to behave a

1000
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: certain way, you try to protect, to protect something, in

1001
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: the long run, you usually fail to do it. Eventually,

1002
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: innovation always wins. It will defeat a government subsidy, it

1003
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: will defeat a tariff, It will defeat those things. So

1004
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: you can postpone it, you can prolong it, or you

1005
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: can figure out a way to sort of, look, you

1006
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 1: want to do that, great, you need to invest over here,

1007
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: maybe throw money into training over here. Who knows, at

1008
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: some point may become contribute to the UBI fund Universal

1009
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Speaker 1: basic income. I am one of those folks that think

1010
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: that's probably coming. We won't call it universal basic income.

1011
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: We're going to call it the childcare tax credit, or

1012
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Speaker 1: we'll call it the you've chosen to work out of

1013
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: home tax credit, or you've chosen to raise a third

1014
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: kid tax credit. Other people will call it universal basic income.

1015
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Speaker 1: We will we may never actually use that phrase, but

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Speaker 1: I think some of those things are going there. All right,

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Speaker 1: I will pause. There I've gone I've gone about an

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Speaker 1: hour total with my monologues. Today and my little college

1019
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: football stuff. By the way, if you're if you're playing

1020
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Speaker 1: at home. I think now the most interesting, the most

1021
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: interesting show that I would want to watch this week

1022
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Speaker 1: would be Paul Finebamb's call in portion of his show

1023
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: when all the Alabama fans start talking about cam into

1024
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Speaker 1: boor right, that poor guy nobody wanted to be the

1025
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Speaker 1: guy that followed Nick Saban And I think now we're

1026
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Speaker 1: finding out why a lot of people are glad secretly

1027
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Speaker 1: that they were considered for the job, got a raise,

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Speaker 1: and never actually took the job. I'm looking at you,

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Speaker 1: Mike Norvella, Florida State, who got the rays for being

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Speaker 1: recruited by Alabama but didn't take the gig. Meanwhile, who's

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Speaker 1: now in the hotter seat Mike Norvella, Florida State or

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Speaker 1: Calin de boor at Alabama. All right, So with that,

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Speaker 1: it's the end of my politics and sports updates for

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Speaker 1: the day. I will upload again in twenty four hours.