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Do you feel 28 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 4: like I'm accomplished? Ah? I don't know what I feel. 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 4: I never feel like I you know this, you know 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 4: this businesses you feel like you know any moment, like 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 4: whatever you got is going to go away. So I 32 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: just I don't pay attention to that stuff. I obviously 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 4: like it. No, legend doesn't make me feel old. It 34 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 4: makes me feel good. But when somebody's like, ah, man, 35 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: I grew up on your comedy. I started listening to 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 4: you when I was eight, I'm like going, oh my god, 37 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 4: you're seeing they're like, you know, divorced. You're like, oh god, 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: how old are myself? Yeah? I would say that's the 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 4: type of stuff makes me feel old. 40 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: I want to I want to go back a little bit. 41 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: If you don't mine, I want to know. You know 42 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: what got Bill Burr into comedy. 43 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 4: For at a childhood? Somebody happy he gets into this 44 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: stuff used to then the delusions of fame get into 45 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 4: your head and then you somehow get into it. Uh No, 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: I mean I definitely liked it when I was growing up, 47 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: but I got into it by chance where you know, 48 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 4: I'm old man. So like I was watching it in 49 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 4: the seventies and eighties, but like show business was like 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 4: it was a million miles away. It was impossible. It 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: was not something that you could do, like, you know, 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: just take out a camera and start filming yourself. So 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: I grew up Massachusetts suburbs, so I thought, like, you know, 54 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: you had to be in Hollywood to get into it. 55 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 4: Like I had no idea. There was this huge stand 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 4: up scene in in uh Massachusetts. So I was working 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: in a warehouse and I was working with this guy 58 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 4: and he was into stand up the way I was. 59 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: And he was funny as hell. And one night we 60 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: were we used to uh used to go over his 61 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 4: house have a couple of beers before we went out, 62 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: you know, save some money, and he was we were 63 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: watching stand up, but he was going, Bill, what funny 64 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: than these guys like and you know, he goes one 65 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: one night, I'm gonna take a shot at Jack Daniels 66 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: and go up on stage. And that's when it stopped 67 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 4: being on TV and it was next to me, and 68 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: I started thinking like, oh, wait a minute, if he 69 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 4: can try it, I can try it. And still took 70 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: me another five years to figure it out. I started, 71 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: I started kind of late. Did you ever feel like 72 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: you had to wear a dress a fuck a cock? 73 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: You know in Hollywood? 74 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. 75 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: No, And that whole theory is ridiculous, But that's what's 76 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 4: going on out there, that there's more pedophiles in Hollywood 77 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: than there aren't plumbing. It's like, it's it's a problem, 78 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: why plumbing, I don't know, just like regular jobs, directing, 79 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: like directing, like every pedophile in jail like created, you know, 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: freaking you know. It's like no, it's like they're like, 81 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: that's what's going on. What's funny is what's going on 82 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: in Hollywood is going on in most businesses, where it's 83 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: like there's a lot of people working over time, not 84 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 4: getting paid, not getting credit and getting pushed down and 85 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 4: people at the top taking more and more. But the 86 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: problem with Hollywood is is those idiots stay in Hollywood 87 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: and they look at most of the country like flyover states, 88 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 4: and then they go on these stupid you know, awards shows, 89 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: and they talk down to them, and then that makes 90 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 4: them hate them, and then they love to see somebody 91 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: going down. The whole thing is it's like traveling is depressing, yeah, 92 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: because what you find is everybody really is the same, 93 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 4: like all of this stuff, like, you know, all these 94 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 4: people are evildoers and they're this and that, and you 95 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: go over there and it's just everybody's the same. You know, 96 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 4: everybody you know wants to have money, to have a sandwich, 97 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: you want to find love, you want to be feel safe. 98 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 4: That's everybody is like that. But then they just they 99 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: just you know, the sociopaths get the dumb people wound up. 100 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: I feel like New York and La have no idea 101 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 5: what the rest of the country is actually, Like if 102 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 5: you grew up in New York and you grew up 103 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 5: in LA, you don't know what the real bubbles like. 104 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: New Yorkers are some of the worst traveled people you 105 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 4: ever gonna meet. They're hilarious everywhere they go. They would 106 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: go to Guam and be like, oh, I go to Guam. 107 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: I try to get a bacon, egg and cheese, and 108 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: the ladies looking at me like, what are you talking about? 109 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: This place sucks. Where are the skyscrapers? Like that's what 110 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 4: cracks you about New York is Like what It's like 111 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: the point of traveling is to get something different. Like 112 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: they go to La and they try to get a bacon, 113 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 4: egg and cheese. It's like, get a taco? What are 114 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: you doing when in Rome? Right? Yeah, I wouldn't come 115 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: here and try to get a burrito. I've seen Mexican 116 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 4: foods here. I just start laughing. It's like, no, I'm 117 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: not doing that's closest music. 118 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: Got a taco bell, That's that's usually what. 119 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 4: I love that you said that because Mexicans all think 120 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 4: that white people think taco bell is authentic Mexican food. 121 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 4: It's like, we're not that. That is crazy. Yeah, I 122 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: know Olive Garden is not a town. I understand that 123 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 4: they have hoarded out. 124 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 5: What did Bilberg want to be before he became a comedian? 125 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 5: You just always wanted to do comedy. 126 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 4: I was just failing at everything. I did horrible in school. 127 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: I did good in school until it mattered. I was weird. 128 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: I did really good right up till eighth grade, and 129 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: then once college started paying attention. I don't know. I 130 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: just that's you know, I'm not going to get into it. 131 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 4: But that's when I'll like the ass hit the fan 132 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: with a lot of stuff. So then, yeah, I don't 133 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 4: know what. I tried construction. I wasn't good at that landscaping. 134 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 4: I worked in warehouses. I knew I didn't want a boss, 135 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: and I also knew that I didn't want to go 136 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: into the same building for more than a year because 137 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 4: a few times I had jobs for over a year 138 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 4: and there was just something so depressing because you were 139 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: working for somebody else's dream and it was like a 140 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 4: year earlier, I was standing right here. I have not 141 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 4: moved anywhere. I'm another year older. So yeah, and you know. 142 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: I'm depressed now. I was been here for fifteen years. 143 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 4: If I wasn't sitting in a throne, I was unloading 144 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 4: trust this guy's drinking from a chalice, Like I feel 145 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 4: good about this, I scented candle. No, I wasn't like 146 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 4: unloading trucks and getting hammered and driving drunk stuff you 147 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: did in the eighties. I mean that was basically what 148 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 4: it was. So and I was going part time to 149 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: college because idn't have money to go to college, so 150 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: I was paying my own way through it, and I 151 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: had already stayed back in first grade, so I just 152 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: felt like hopelessly behind until I started hanging out, you know, 153 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: with people that were into comedy, and then somehow I 154 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: found it and uh yeah, then I remember doing that, 155 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: and then that was just like, all right, this is 156 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 4: what this is what I'm supposed to do, because everything 157 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 4: else I was doing I just never felt I always 158 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: never felt like this is not it. I don't feel 159 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 4: like these people aren't the same kind of weird than 160 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: I am. You know, why do you think you're weird? Though? 161 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 4: I mean, like I think we're all like messed up 162 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: a little bit. Why don't think I'm weird? I don't 163 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: know if I if I knew why I was weird, 164 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be weird. 165 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 5: I think I think you got a lot of common sense. 166 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 5: I'm like, this guy is just he's just since human being. 167 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: Well, I've learned from a lot of failures. Your own 168 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: are others, oh, my own okay, oh and also others. 169 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: Well that you know, I had a great education when 170 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: I got in to stand up the Big eighties. I 171 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: don't know how old you guys are, but the Big 172 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: eighty Okay, So the big eighties boom where stand up 173 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: comedy clubs exploded and all that, and then it just 174 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: got to the point you could just put like a 175 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: microphone anywhere and people would show up for comedy. So 176 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: the quality of it went down, and everybody was doing 177 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 4: a lot of people were doing blow, getting paid in 178 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: cash in and blow and all of that type of stuff. 179 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: And then it all came crashing down, and then the 180 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: irs showed up and everything, and then I then I started, 181 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 4: like I walked in like you know, the end of 182 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 4: the party. Balloons were on the ground, confetti, everybody passed out, 183 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 4: and I saw these headliners that were getting their wages 184 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 4: garnished and they had to talk to the irs to 185 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 4: go do some you know, funny Bone in another state 186 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 4: and everything. So my generation kind of learned like, all right, man, 187 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 4: you can party this away in about seven eight crucial years, 188 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 4: So you know, I learned from that. And then, uh, 189 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: you know, any young comics watching this year. Twenties and 190 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: thirties are difficult because you're struggling. And then also you 191 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: do that comparison thing like well you started the same 192 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: time I did, and you're here and I'm here, So 193 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: I must be doing something wrong, and then I start 194 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: hating you for some stupid reason, and then like that 195 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: takes up a lot of energy, and then one day 196 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: you just basically figured out like, all right, I'm making 197 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 4: the decisions here. I you know, I'm doing well and 198 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: not doing well by what I'm thinking rather than this 199 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 4: this other stuff. 200 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 2: Did you ever want to quit once? 201 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 4: No, one time I thought I wasn't gonna make it. It 202 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 4: was the only time I ever thought it. When was 203 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 4: this you bomb? No, No, I happen all the time. 204 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: That's just part of this stuff. I was doing the 205 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say where it was because it's a 206 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: sad story. We're gonna bump you out. 207 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: Okay. 208 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 4: So I was doing this this this this club that 209 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: I've just been going to for years and years and 210 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: years and years and years. Every other year I would 211 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: go there New Hour, going to get them, you know, 212 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: you know, I'm in with the Warning Radio guys. And 213 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 4: the same thirty people were showing up. So it was 214 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 4: after the late show and I was sitting there, you know, 215 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: wreaking a smoke because you could smoke. All three shows 216 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: smelt like I thought a fire. My eyes were all 217 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: burning and I was just looking at the wait staff 218 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 4: and they were life as they had been there before, 219 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: and they were older, a little bit heavier, and they 220 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: were counting up that money and they were smoking their cigarettes, 221 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: and the same amount of people had showed up. And 222 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: that was the first time I like this thought went 223 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 4: in my head, like of like, wait a minute, am 224 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: I the guy who doesn't make it? Oh? 225 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: My god? 226 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: The panic of that. I went back to the comedy 227 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: condo and I was just laying in bed trying to 228 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 4: turn it around, and my brain was just no, oh, 229 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 4: you're the guy is not going to make it. So 230 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 4: that was Yeah. Then I got back to New York 231 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: and it was better, you know. I came you know, 232 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: after the gig, I came back and then just like 233 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 4: the energy, I had a couple of good sets, you know. 234 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 4: Sunday night at the Boston Comedy Club was a huge 235 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 4: was a huge turning point for me in my career, 236 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: probably how I ended up here right now, and that 237 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 4: that would that would get me to think positive. 238 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 5: And you said you never bombed, right, And I'm all 239 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 5: the time you have, but I. 240 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: Don't think you bombed, Bill. 241 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 5: I think that people don't know if they should laugh 242 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 5: at what you're saying, you. 243 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: Know what I mean? Maybe now, but no, no, I 244 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 4: remember bombing so bad one time. This was comedy club 245 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 4: called Mixed Nuts that's now called the Comedy Union. That 246 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: was the black club, right. So I went down there, 247 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 4: and uh, it's funny. I started doing those rooms because 248 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: I used to listen to Richard Pryor so like his 249 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: albums were so live that you could like picture the crowd. 250 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: So I had this idea of what a crowd looked like. 251 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 4: It was weird. I'm white as hell on that like 252 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 4: that was my idea of what a crowd was. So I, 253 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: you know, ended up doing those rooms along with the 254 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: white rooms. Right. So I was on stage bombing so bad, 255 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: like like this right here, silence, and I just remember 256 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: hearing this woman's voice in the back. She just goes, 257 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 4: I ain't laughed yet about ten minutes, and then that 258 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: was the biggest laugh of the said. Everybody laughed, and 259 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 4: then they just started talking amongst themselves. And I did 260 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 4: not say I did know how to turn it around. 261 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 4: It was and there's something It's bad enough bombing in 262 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 4: front of your own people, but bombing in front of 263 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 4: another race of people knowing that you're taking down a 264 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: bunch of other white comics with you, like, because everybody 265 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: it's just like I don't like corny as mother. You 266 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 4: know it's not just me. Yeah, there are others out there. 267 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: They're funny. Yeah it was bad. You liked Richard pryor 268 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 4: what's your favorite m Maybe it was it something I said, 269 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 4: the one. I can't say half of them. You're gonna 270 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: get me in trouble half time. That was the set. 271 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: I'm lucking, I got a good night's sleep. I like 272 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 4: that Edwork's crazy. I will say I bought I bought 273 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: his albums because he just looked funny. That was the 274 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 4: first one I bought that Edward was crazy when when 275 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 4: he was pointing like that just he just looked funny. 276 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 4: And that's how I bought the first Eddie Murphy. Up. 277 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 4: I bought the first Eddie Murphy album because I was like, well, 278 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 4: he's also black, he must be funny. And that was 279 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 4: the first one we had the rose in his ear. 280 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 4: See how that works? 281 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 5: So you did represent for all white comics because you 282 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 5: see one funny black comedy think yeah, yeah. 283 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 4: That's how it was. No, that's how it works. And 284 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: so It's almost like I found a genre of music, 285 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 4: so I would listen to it. I listened to all 286 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: of his stuff, and I just, uh, there was something 287 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: about the way he did it, which I didn't understand 288 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: it as a kid, but the way he did the 289 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 4: way he trashed white people, he got you to listen 290 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 4: to him and laugh at yourself. Where I think when 291 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: by the time def jam came around, crack eighties and 292 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 4: all of that, like where black comedy was, it was 293 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 4: like all right, enough for this like sort of pussy 294 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 4: footing around, you know, So then it was more like 295 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 4: that was like a different thing. But like what I 296 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 4: loved about Richard was like you like rooted for him, 297 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 4: You felt like you knew him. It was really insane. 298 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 4: I like, and I think he's the greatest of all time, 299 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 4: and I think it's even. 300 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: Close during that time, during that era when it seems 301 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: like that crack time where deaf comedy jam and the 302 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: comedy shows, was it hard for you to book in 303 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: those black rooms? Was it was like here comes the 304 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: white comedian again. 305 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 4: No, that was the irony. It was hard for them 306 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: and you you, yeah, you had to like vouch for 307 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 4: him and everything, and the club owners right in front 308 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 4: of Yeah, you don't do that deaf jam stuff, do 309 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: you? You're not like MF and m FIN talking about you know, 310 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: I don't know what I can say on the show. 311 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 4: Yeah you're not, you're not, you're not. Oh wait, you 312 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 4: said sucking dick earlier the second I yeah. So they 313 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 4: would literally say that, and that was embarrassing when you'd 314 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 4: be standing there going like so, but what they're they 315 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 4: you'd come on, They didn't is they would just say, 316 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: I go up, do you think? And they I felt 317 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: like guys, Like all of those guys I worked for Talent, 318 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: Drew Fraser, Rob Stapleton, Kelly Capone, all the New York kings. 319 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 4: I used to do all of those rooms and uh, 320 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: oh god, those are all the memories of that one. 321 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: I remember Gerald Kelly had a room. Oh god, it 322 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 4: was a brutal room. It was somewhere in like Newark 323 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 4: and like the two thousands, and I remember that. I 324 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 4: remember this comedian was it ros g or something, Yeah, 325 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 4: rest her soul. She was on stage. She's super loud, 326 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 4: and she was super loud, and they weren't laughing at anything, 327 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: and she ended a safe She's like god, damn She's like, 328 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: I don't know who's coming up next, but he better 329 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 4: be funny because you motherfuckers ain't laughing. It's shit. And 330 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 4: then she brought me up and Gentleman Bilburgh didn't gonna 331 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: laugh at least. No, you know, it's weird. I went up, 332 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 4: had an okay set and I felt like I bombed 333 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: at anything, and randomly Chris Weber was there and he 334 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: came up, but he told me I was funny, and 335 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: it was little things like that. I'm like, well, this 336 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 4: guy's famous, this guy's successful. He thinks I'm funny, so 337 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 4: I think I'll be all right. 338 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 5: Do you change your thit when you're doing black rooms 339 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 5: versus white rooms? 340 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: I try not to. Early on I did. I'd be 341 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: on stage all of a sudden, I hear myself tagging 342 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: all my jokes with you know what I'm saying, and 343 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: I'd be like, why am I doing that? Why am 344 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: I doing that? Stop? Stop doing that? 345 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: But you just would, and. 346 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: Then it was an easy way. It's an easy way 347 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: to get through those rooms. You can just be like, 348 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 4: I'm the white guy and I'm scared, and that's sort 349 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: of how you do it initially, just to get your 350 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: feet wet in those rooms. And then basically then it 351 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: becomes like, now can I actually go up here and 352 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 4: talk about what I want to talk about? Wear a 353 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 4: Bruin's T shirt, you know, hockey T shirt. And I 354 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: started experimenting with that, and I remember Patrice giving me 355 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 4: rest Is Soul Trey so new. Yeah, going like Bill's 356 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 4: trying to do his white shit in these black rooms. 357 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 4: Sometimes it worked. Sometimes it all dependent on the crowd. 358 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 4: It all dependent on the crowd. But I felt like 359 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 4: it's a weird thing where I feel like it's harder 360 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 4: to be a black comic in a black room than 361 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 4: it is to be a black comic in a white room, 362 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 4: and vice versa, because you can just play fish out 363 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 4: of water, like, oh wow, this is all different, gee, Louise, 364 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 4: you know, I'm all nervous up here and just literally 365 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: play into the stereotype. That's the easy laugh one hundred percent. 366 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: But not early on I forgive any of it, because 367 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 4: you're just trying to survive, because it's like, you know, 368 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: that's like not something like white people don't experience being 369 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: the only you a lot. You know, we just sort 370 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: of walk in ouh more white shit, you know, and 371 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: you just live that. So the first experience, and that's 372 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: was funny. When I first started doing those rooms, I 373 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 4: didn't see black people as individuals. I just saw black people. 374 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: And as I kept doing them and doing them, I 375 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 4: started to see individuals. Oh, this guy's like my buddy Mitch. 376 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 4: This guy's like you know, And I started to see, Oh, 377 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: this guy's a good guy. This guy's a piece of shit, 378 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 4: and this guy steals jokes, this guy's you know, and 379 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: it's like, oh, this is just like white people. 380 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: I was going to ask, you know, back in the day, 381 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: what you name some of those comedians from Talent to Compone, 382 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: It seems like comedy. 383 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 4: Had a brotherhood, like you'll f with each other. 384 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: Now it doesn't seem like that, especially with Kat William 385 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: throwing missiles at everybody. Was it a brotherhood back then 386 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 1: or was it always competition in missis now? 387 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: It always was? It just you couldn't you couldn't air 388 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 4: your grievances on social media and that type of stuff. 389 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 4: Like no, there still is, like there still is like 390 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 4: a comrade, especially the people that you like you start 391 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 4: out with when you go up and you're doing like 392 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: open mics and stuff, it's just one impossible situation after another, 393 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 4: and you just get thrown into these things and you 394 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 4: sort of bond with each other through just you know, 395 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: I mean I did gigs, like we don't have a microphone. 396 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 4: Is that going to be a problem. We're just gonna 397 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 4: have you stand here in this hall. Oh my god. No, 398 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 4: it was just like some of the stuff, some of 399 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 4: the places, and then you would just what kept you 400 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 4: going was your friend in the crowd laughing at you, 401 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 4: watching you trying to figure this situation out. So there's 402 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: definitely that. But you know, people focus on the negative 403 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 4: or whatever. So I mean, generally speaking, we get along. 404 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 4: It's nowhere difference than other other stuff. 405 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 5: Now, when you see the black comedians going back and 406 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 5: forth with each other, what do you think about that? 407 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 4: Do you do you even look at it as the 408 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 4: black communia? You just look at his comedians, no comedians, 409 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: because white comedians are doing it too. Really, Yeah, what's what? 410 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 4: What's your colubsation? Oh uh, you know, I don't know 411 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 4: because I'm old, but like there's definitely you know, I'm 412 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 4: an old school guy where I look at all that 413 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 4: stuff like that's locker room stuff. And if you have 414 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 4: a problem with somebody, you should go to them and 415 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 4: say it. That's how I came up. And then also like, I, uh, 416 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 4: you know, but this is difficult. I don't need to 417 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 4: make it any more difficult. There's people I like, people 418 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 4: maybe I don't like, but I don't need to walk 419 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: them around, Like what good does that do me to do? 420 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 4: That's but that's me, so you know, other people do 421 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 4: it differently. 422 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 6: Have you ever heard that somebody didn't like you for 423 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 6: a reason, any particular reason. 424 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 4: Yeah. People thought I was a dick. They thought I 425 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: was like aloof because I when I first started, they 426 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 4: thought I was like, you know, if you're quiet and 427 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 4: you're actually doing well, people get in their head and 428 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 4: they thought, oh, he's not talking to me because he 429 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 4: doesn't like me, And it wasn't. I was like a mess. 430 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 4: I was questioning everything that I had done in the 431 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 4: previous five minutes. But some people took it like he's 432 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 4: not talking to me because he doesn't think I'm funny. 433 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: So I definitely had a few of those. And I 434 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 4: was also an angry guy, so I probably about oh Jesus, 435 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 4: just stuff. I don't want to get into stuff that 436 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 4: makes you be a comedian. The usual I have. I 437 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 4: have the you want to talk about hackey. I have 438 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 4: all of the hacky background you need to get into 439 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 4: this business. So, uh, you know, I could have had 440 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 4: a much simpler life. 441 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 5: I think a lot of us. I mean, I deal with, 442 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 5: you know, anxiety on a high level, you know what 443 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 5: I mean. I think a lot of people do. But 444 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 5: I think most people who have a high level of 445 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 5: self awareness really do because we're just aware that we're 446 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 5: dealing with something that we're willing to acknowledge and other 447 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 5: people aren't. 448 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, every time I think I'm getting insane, 449 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 4: I don't know, something else happens, and like you know, 450 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 4: like having kids and stuff. Really, you know, it really 451 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 4: holds a mirror. My daughter said the cutest thing to 452 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 4: me the other day. She goes, Dad, can you stop 453 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 4: being mad now? And I just burst it out laughing, 454 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, all right, all right, that's good. 455 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 4: But the way I came, I would never say that 456 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: to my dad. So I do feel like I've done. 457 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 4: What I do like about my kids is that they're 458 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 4: not afraid of me at all. They took me like 459 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 4: a freaking bouncy house. But uh so, yeah, I've tried. 460 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 4: I've tried to you know, I've tried to undo some things. 461 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not afraid of you, because you're probably raising 462 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 5: them with love, or at least my dad he raised 463 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 5: me with fear. 464 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 4: I believe he was afraid that I would make the 465 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 4: same with things he made. Oh, everyone was afraid of that. 466 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: You were afraid of other people's dads when I was 467 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: growing up because they could hit you. Yeah. Yeah, And 468 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 4: they had big cars, and they were always mad, and 469 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 4: they were coming home and you just saw like, you know, 470 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 4: like their wife scampering back into the house, you know, 471 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 4: as they were pulling into the driveway. Yeah, the men 472 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: were scary when I was growing up. So I probably 473 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 4: overcorrected or whatever, but I'd rather have him coming up 474 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 4: this way. Yeah. My kids allowed you know, we were 475 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 4: not loud, like we were loud when mom was home. 476 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: When dad was home, everybody just shut the hell up. 477 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 4: And when he left, it was like a stack of 478 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 4: bricks off your chair. Wait until your dad got home. 479 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 4: Oh my god, those I mean, it was funny. Was 480 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: he actually was a big softie? Was also it turns 481 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: out that way my mother was the one that beat us, damn. Yeah, Yeah, 482 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: we deserved, you said. 483 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 5: Earlier, you always feel like things would be taken away 484 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 5: from you, like that from childhood or that cancel coach. 485 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 4: Like, what do you mean when you say that, No, 486 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 4: this is before cancel culture. Well, because you I would. 487 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 4: You would see guys like idiots would get a show 488 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: on the air and then immediately go buy a big 489 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 4: house in a car. But back in the day, they 490 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 4: would say you got to wait till the third season, 491 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 4: so you know that it's rolling, and you would watch 492 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 4: guys blow all their money. I watched people get deals 493 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 4: up at Montreal and they put it all in the 494 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 4: dot com stock market. I knew that was I stay 495 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 4: away from that ship. When I was at the comic 496 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 4: strip and comedians stopped talking about comedy and they were 497 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 4: talking about stocks, going like, you know it's gonna split again, 498 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 4: It's definitely gonna split again. I'm like, you are a dummy. 499 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 4: You're a dummy. I'm a dummy. We should not be 500 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 4: talking about this shit. So I didn't put it in, 501 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 4: but I saw guys lose all their money that way. 502 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 4: There was guys I used to be, you know, looking 503 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: up like, oh my god, how do you get to 504 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: that level? And then their stuff starts to go like that, 505 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 4: like this this business is it's not for the for 506 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 4: the week and you got to save your money. I 507 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 4: don't know. I'm trying to come with something positive here. 508 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 4: It's a fun job though, it's a fun job. This 509 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 4: is a callback. 510 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 5: And when you saw those white comics on that level, 511 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 5: did you say to thyself, he sucked the dick to 512 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 5: get there? 513 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: Did he wear a dress to get there? Like? Where 514 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 4: does that? What is that? What is that theory stigma 515 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 4: come from? Because I'm asking you you brought that up twice? 516 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, because that's the that's the that's the stigma, Like 517 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 5: you know, the stigma is for black comics, you gotta 518 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 5: wear a dress to get to a certain level. 519 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: You know, you did that ship According to Kat Williams 520 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 4: about tweets Milton Burrow, Milton Burrow made a whole career 521 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 4: like be like that comes from Vadne Williams. Yeah, he 522 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 4: played Missus Doubtfire, Tom Hanks was on Buzz and Buddies. 523 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 4: I mean it was just like it was kind of 524 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 4: the you know, we don't have a good idea, let's 525 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 4: put a guy in a dress. That's kind of what 526 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 4: it was. But I understand. You know, that's just one 527 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: of those white things where I don't have to look 528 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 4: at it like, oh, they're doing this because they're trying 529 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 4: to belittle me because they don't see me as human. 530 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 4: I don't have to deal with all the stuff you 531 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 4: guys got to deal with, So, like, I don't know 532 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 4: if it it's how much of that's true, how much 533 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 4: of it's paranoia? I mean, I can't speak on that. 534 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 4: I have no idea, but like you know, I don't 535 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 4: you never wore dress, Yeah, and that whole sucking a 536 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 4: dick thing, Like it's like you just sort of nod 537 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 4: you never wear dress. 538 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 2: He said, No, not that or that whole sucking addiction. 539 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: It's more like you create a show, you go in, 540 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 4: you pitch it to these people, they somehow take control 541 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 4: of it. You lose to create it by credit. They 542 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: make all the money you don't. That's that's the way 543 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 4: it usually works. It's not it's not like you want 544 00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 4: a TV show. Huh, all right, problem I I and 545 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: you better do it good because I got another forty 546 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 4: guy's waiting to suck. It's like that's just I think 547 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 4: a lot of people want it to be that way 548 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 4: because it just makes him feel better about their lives 549 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 4: or where the fuck they're at. But it's just like, yeah, 550 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: like most of Hollywood is overworked, underpaid people not getting 551 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: credit for some shit that they created, and it happens 552 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 4: to everybody. It happens at different levels, and you have 553 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: to learn how to protect yourself, and nobody teaches you. 554 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 4: You just go in there taking punches and then you go, oh, 555 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: you know, and that that's usually how you learn, unless 556 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 4: there's a comic that kind of takes you under his 557 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 4: under his wing or something and teaches you, like, well, 558 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 4: got for this. They're going to try to do that. 559 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 4: Damon Wayne's was great at that. Oh word, I've heard 560 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 4: that before that he was great at that. Like he 561 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 4: barely knew me, and he you know, and he' said 562 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 4: he I saw you on TV funny Man. We stand 563 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 4: out in front of the cellar. He goes, what do 564 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 4: he got going on? And he just stood there. Damon 565 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 4: Wade's I could believe it. He just stood there and 566 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 4: for like twenty minutes, He's going, uh huh, all right, 567 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 4: all right, this is what they're going to try to do, 568 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 4: and he just I was cooling, like, oh my god, 569 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: I know I just did this business was so ruthless, 570 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 4: but I never forgot that, and that was something that 571 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 4: I learned. It's like, all right, so if I get somewhere, 572 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 4: like my job is to tell the younger kids, you 573 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 4: know how they're going to try to come in. That's 574 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 4: how they fuck you. Yeah, they don't care about they 575 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: can get a hooker or any time they want, or 576 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 4: whatever the hell they want. They're trying to take your 577 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 4: ideas and get the money. They got all kinds of 578 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 4: stuff they have. Like you remember back in the day, 579 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 4: there was like points on a show, how many points 580 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 4: you had, and they literally invented points that didn't mean shit, 581 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 4: so you would be you got forty points. I only 582 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 4: got thirty. But mine means something, Yours don't mean anything. 583 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 4: It's the whole thing is. Yeah, like here's one for you. 584 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 4: It's way harder to prove somebody stole from you than 585 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 4: defamation of character. Figure that one out. So that basically 586 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: protects the thiefs. So when somebody steals from you, I 587 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 4: can't then go around town and say this guy stole 588 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 4: from me, stay away from him, blah blah. That gets 589 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 4: back to him. He can sue me and he can 590 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 4: just come up with the phony cost report, well, well 591 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 4: this mouse was thirty thousand dollars and this was fifteen, 592 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 4: and whittle down what he stole and they get away 593 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 4: with it. Pad that experience. Will it Will it ever 594 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 4: be fair? Will ever be no? Because human beings are 595 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 4: completely flawed and it's God's fault because that's how he 596 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 4: makes us. So you need to stop going on Sunday 597 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 4: praising him. You need constructive criticism, Jesus, let people freak out. 598 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 4: Will freak out when you start making fun of God. 599 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: I'm down to hear you. I'm down to hear it out, 600 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: all right, No, I just it's just an astoundingly like uh, 601 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 4: not even dumb. Just not have an empathy, which is 602 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 4: the first level of intelligence. Is if you can't take 603 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 4: yourself out of yourself and look at somebody else, see 604 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 4: this situation and hear it that there's there's just a 605 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 4: level of life living life. You're not going to get passed. 606 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 4: You're just not going to get past. And also they 607 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 4: got to stop naming stuff deliberately confusing, like white privilege. 608 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 4: Every white person I knew is like I didn't grow 609 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 4: up rich. That's how we took that shit. I don't 610 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: know why. I don't know who names the ship, but 611 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 4: like I didn't know what it meant. I was like, 612 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 4: what are you talking about? I grew up in a 613 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 4: duplex with fucking squirrels in the line, So what would 614 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 4: you call it? What would I call white privilege? 615 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 7: No? 616 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 4: I would, ah, well, that's a good question, uh know, 617 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 4: being white. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not 618 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 4: good at this, like coming up with band names and 619 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 4: shit like that. But like I didn't like, like it 620 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 4: meant how you like moved through the earth, through the world. Right. 621 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 4: So one of the things I've been kind of having 622 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 4: fun with in the Red States is talking about the 623 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 4: Klan and now there's all this stuff you can't do anymore, 624 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: but you can still join that group. But I go, 625 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: that's a great example of white privilege. You can still 626 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: join a terrorist organization as a white person and it's 627 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 4: protected under the others freedom of speech. And they start saying, well, 628 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 4: you know, I don'tant to do the whole bit because 629 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: I want to I want to flesh this thing out first. 630 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 4: But that's what they sit there, and then that's one 631 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 4: of the most fun things about doing stand up is 632 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: going to a place like that and doing some stuff 633 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 4: like that and getting them to hear it, and then 634 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 4: going to LA and kind of doing like the same thing, 635 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 4: because they think people in Hollywood think that you just 636 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 4: put a BLM sign in the window, and that means 637 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 4: you know, you're like a saint, and it's like you 638 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 4: haven't done anything which you basically did was appeased your 639 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 4: your sense of responsibility. What are you talking about, I 640 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 4: put a sign in the window. I'm on the right 641 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 4: side of history. Or my favorite one was it was 642 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 4: white people marching in BLM marches filming themselves or Instagram, 643 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 4: Look what a great person I am. So it's just like, 644 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know a human being served interesting. 645 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 4: Is their comedy to be found in this year's election. 646 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 4: I mean the joke I've been doing there like this 647 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 4: election is like you know, when Hollywood makes a shitty movie, 648 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: you're like, man, that movie sucked, and then two years 649 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 4: later there's like a sequel and you're like, they're making 650 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 4: another one of these. That's how I look at this. 651 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 4: I think, basically, it's not worth the job's not worth 652 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 4: the headache. And I think that the house in the 653 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 4: Senate basically voting that you can't prosecute us for insider trading. 654 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 4: And they're all worth twenty to forty million dollars. And 655 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 4: you watch CNN and Fox News, you know who's supposed 656 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 4: to be these journalists just completely leave them alone. It's like, 657 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 4: why do I want that job? I can just sit here, 658 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 4: no one knows who I am other than in my state. 659 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 4: I can make my forty million move to another state, 660 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 4: no one knows who I am. You know, get a 661 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 4: boat and some coke and some wares, and I'm good. Right, 662 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 4: That's like, that's how they look at it, like CNN 663 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: Fox If I was running shit, CNN Fox News would 664 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 4: be shut down. They are anti American. All they do 665 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 4: every day their businesses divide us and and then who 666 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 4: they go after, they just go after. The reason why 667 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 4: comedians have been getting so much shit is because we 668 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: don't advertise on their network, so we're just soft targets. Right, 669 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 4: That's why I could the beginning of the pandemic. You 670 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 4: remember that kid who he hoarded all the hand sanitizer, 671 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 4: one of the greatest fucking gambles ever because they was 672 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 4: a SARS is coming and all of this shit this 673 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 4: kid said, all, I think this stuff is real, and 674 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 4: he had a whole garage full of hand sanitizer and 675 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 4: he was up in the price by one hundred percent 676 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 4: and seeing ah, they were just dragging this kid. How 677 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 4: could you do that? And then meanwhile, like big pharmaceutical companies, 678 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: it's like four to sixty bucks for a leukemia pill 679 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 4: and that's totally fine. Why is that fine? Because they're 680 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 4: making money off them, so they're not going to, like, 681 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 4: you know, bite the hand that feed. So this is 682 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 4: the shit that like you think about when you're alone 683 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: a lot on the road and it eventually makes you 684 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 4: go crazy. So I just I have decided what. I 685 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: just sort of like I don't pay attention to like anything. 686 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 4: I try not to, but then and when I do, 687 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 4: it's like heartbreaking. Like there's there's a uh, there's a 688 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 4: documentary about the Ukraine that came out one an oscar 689 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 4: and I just saw the trailers. I just was most 690 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: heartbreaking thing you've ever seen. 691 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 5: It's almost like ignorance is bliss, right, Like that's what 692 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 5: you realize unless you know happier you are. 693 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, or like uh, I don't know. Yeah, it's weird. 694 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 4: It's weird and then dumb people think they know everything. 695 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 4: M M. Sure I had this works, let me, I 696 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 4: got it all figured out. Yeah, so that's why I realized, Yeah, 697 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 4: I don't know shit. 698 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: Does cancel culture scare you at all? It made you change, 699 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: you said. 700 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: You see a lot of comedians change the set, change 701 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: how they talk, change what they talk about. 702 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 5: Uh. 703 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 4: Well, that was something that, like most movements, started with 704 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 4: something good, you know, and then was quickly co opted 705 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 4: by people with their own interest and then it just 706 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 4: completely lost its way. 707 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: And like, is a good thing because because medians were 708 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: usually the ones that well I think you. 709 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 4: Laugh, you know, but if there was people no, but 710 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 4: the initial thing that there's these people out there sex 711 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 4: abusing people like that was good to get rid of 712 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 4: those people that that wasn't bad. But then all of 713 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 4: a sudden it's spun into what are you talking about 714 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: in your act? You know? I worked with an actor 715 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 4: she got she got canceled for an analogy. Well and 716 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: it was and it was all politics. The girl on 717 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 4: Star Wars. It was she didn't want to get the 718 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 4: she didn't want to get the COVID shot, and then 719 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 4: she made some sort of Nazi Germany analogy, right, Well, no, 720 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 4: it'll do if it goes against the politics, if it 721 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 4: went across, if she was coming the other way, if 722 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 4: she was coming like the other way, then I don't 723 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 4: think it doesn't land that way, because I gotta be 724 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 4: honest with you, Like Hitler and Nazi analogies and comedy 725 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 4: are like are hackey, it's forever been this guy's the 726 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 4: next Hitler blah blah blah blah blah or something like that, 727 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 4: so you know, like I don't know it, so it's 728 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 4: it's it's I kind of like didn't really notice it 729 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 4: was happening that I was kind of on stage going like, oh, 730 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 4: I just said that, what if somebody just takes that clip? 731 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 4: And as I didn't realize I was doing that till 732 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 4: I did. Dave Chappelle was doing COVID shows and I 733 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 4: went there and nobody had a phone, and just the 734 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 4: freedom of that, not like I was gonna go out 735 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 4: and say something ignorant, but just not having to worry 736 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 4: about that when they were really kind of common for people, 737 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 4: because I think it's like died down, but it was 738 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 4: a while. It just seemed like they had to throw 739 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 4: a log on the fire every month and eat whether 740 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 4: they had somebody or not. And the wrong Nazi Germany 741 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 4: Hitler reference will get you in any air. Look, it's all. 742 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 4: It depends on your intent. It depends on your intent. 743 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 4: I did Nazi jokes when I was in Germany, and 744 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 4: they would die and laugh because it was just like, 745 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 4: what was it. I was just talking about all their accomplishments, like, 746 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 4: you know what's amazing about you guys, you know all 747 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 4: the accomplishments you made, you know, with the automobile, you know, weaponry, 748 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 4: audio tape. I just was listing all their accomplishments. I go, 749 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 4: and then you just pick one wrong guy and it 750 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 4: all goes to hell. And I just started talking about yeah, 751 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 4: because and then they filmed it so they can't refute it. Oh, 752 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 4: that was a joke I was doing. Yeah, how Germany 753 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 4: they actually have shame for what they did. And it's 754 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 4: not because they're better white people. It's because they're oppressed people. One. 755 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 4: They have to they have to acknowledge it. 756 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 5: The natification though, that is that's what That's what that was. Yeah, 757 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 5: it was them having shame for what they did and 758 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 5: you know, cleaning everything up. 759 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 4: I find neo like neo Nazis are fascinating to me 760 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 4: because like they're all like to support the troops people 761 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 4: and they're like neo Nazis and it's like, well, you know, 762 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 4: the troops were fighting the Nazis. Like just how all 763 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 4: of that gets blurred after time? 764 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 5: It's weird, not that one little piece you just said, 765 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 5: Neo Nazis a fast needing to be Yeah, clip that 766 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 5: going on Twitter? 767 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there it is. You have a field day. 768 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 4: I find them intriguing. How big of a deal is 769 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 4: it now for a comedian to have a special Yeah, 770 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 4: I still think it's it's a to have a good one. 771 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 4: If you have a whatever one, it's I don't know 772 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 4: what it's going to do for you. But uh, I'm 773 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 4: old school. I still like I'm like one of those 774 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 4: you know guys now in your business they just make 775 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 4: singles and stuff like that. So that's starting to become 776 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 4: that like have a special chopping up. That's what the 777 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 4: younger kids are doing. I'm still of the I'm still 778 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 4: making albums, So I don't know if that's stupid or whatever, 779 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 4: but that's that's how I do it. But I'm also 780 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 4: the belief that like, as long as you're doing quality 781 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 4: people are going to come and see yeah, and saying consistent. 782 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 4: It seems like a comedy ted talk. He's a very 783 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 4: in depth question. 784 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 2: I just want to know I'm jointed, and I was. 785 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: I was performing a FM way Paul. 786 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 4: Oh, that was one of those things that was so big, 787 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 4: Like I don't think I even mentally dealt it with 788 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 4: it until like two years. 789 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 2: After I did it, thirty five thousand people. 790 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, something like that. I felt like I was on 791 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 4: led Zeppelin. They had a police escort. We drove into 792 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 4: the thing, you know, as good is. I was there 793 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 4: for a week because I got family up there, so 794 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 4: I always go back in the summer. And you got 795 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 4: a family up there, I have family relatives. No, No, 796 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 4: I've looked a lot of lives. He's a waitress. Early 797 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 4: on in my career, we weren't a good place. Now, No, 798 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 4: I was, And I was walking around town and people say, hey, man, 799 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 4: you know, good luck on the show, you know, blah blah. 800 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 4: So I kind of felt like the city was behind me, 801 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 4: which was another thing to like they have to like 802 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 4: think about. So, yeah, I went up there, and what 803 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 4: I didn't realize is like they've so perfected the sound 804 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 4: and the screens and everything. It was just like this 805 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 4: giant comedy club and you always killing me. People kept 806 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 4: going like, just make sure you take it all in 807 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 4: when you're up there. Just make sure, you know, you 808 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 4: take a moment for yourself. It's like, this is comedy. 809 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 4: I can't do that. Well. The second I take a 810 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 4: moment with myself, I'm immediately bombing. So what I kept 811 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 4: doing was during Bigger Laughs, was just looking out Oklahoma 812 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 4: Plate where it said Fenway Park, and that was That's 813 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 4: just it was mind blowing and uh yeah. And then 814 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 4: we got to let us hang up in right field 815 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 4: smoking cigars and we my my family. We used to 816 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 4: always get tickets the blue seats up and right field, 817 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 4: so it was kind of up there. It was really 818 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, that was something. So that was that was 819 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 4: a one time only because you want to do it again. 820 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 4: It's like, no, no, I don't think there's any point 821 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 4: to go back. Lotter request with tickets oh from people, 822 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 4: Uh you know, it wasn't that bad. It wasn't that bad, 823 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 4: you know. It was was nerve wracking, though. Was my 824 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 4: high school reunion also? Was there? No, they just decided 825 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 4: to go to the show and that, and it's just 826 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 4: like that's just like a weird thing, where like when 827 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 4: I meet people from high school, like, you know, I 828 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 4: had a really cool class, so like I'm still the 829 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 4: person I was and and so are they. It's just 830 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 4: I'm doing this weird thing. So that was kind of 831 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 4: I had to block that out a little bit where 832 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 4: I to be like, you know, all those girls who 833 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 4: were afraid to talk to you go back to being like, 834 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 4: you know, a little billy, redheaded kid in like ninth grade. 835 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 4: So I had to like, Okay, I gotta block this 836 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 4: shit out and do my job. You just stun on 837 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 4: them a little bit. Nah, that my time to do that. 838 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 4: I blew it, and I just accepted. I took the 839 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 4: loss and I kept moving forward. I don't do I 840 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 4: don't go back. No, you married right, yeah, to a 841 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 4: black woman. If I'm not mistaken? Yeah, how does that happen? 842 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 4: How does that happen? 843 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 2: How does that happen? 844 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 4: Saying a white guy from I watched, like, you know, 845 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 4: I watched different strokes growing up, and I had a 846 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 4: crush on Janet Jackson. How does that happen? When'd you meet? 847 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 4: First time I met her, I was with her dad, 848 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 4: who was booking The Apollo. So I was doing showtime 849 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 4: with the Apollo, and she was standing out back. Oh 850 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 4: she's black black, So I light skinned black people in 851 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 4: at the Apollo. It was my wife is gorgeous. He's gorgeous. 852 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 4: So that was one thing, but I didn't really I 853 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 4: I came and was coming up the backstairs and someone 854 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 4: was getting booed, and I just remember thinking like, why 855 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 4: am I doing this? I didn't need to do this. 856 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 4: This all started with like that Patrician shit where he 857 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 4: was always, you know, fucking with you. So he was like, 858 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 4: you have a good set, and he would just and 859 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 4: then he started talking about talents room, talent Will's room 860 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 4: around the corner, saying like, you know, there's a bunch 861 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 4: of comics over there that ten times funnier than all 862 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 4: you white guys, and da da da da da, and 863 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 4: you know, so it kind of felt like all right. 864 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 4: He was like, I just want a championship, and somebody saying, oh, 865 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 4: there's some guys across the way that could kick your ass. 866 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 4: They're not allowed in the league. So it's like, all right, 867 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 4: I gotta go play him. So I started doing those rooms, 868 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 4: and then that led and then I was thinking, like, well, 869 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 4: there's be great. I'll do the black rooms. I'll also 870 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 4: do the white rooms, and then I can get that draw. 871 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 4: That crowd that I heard on those Richer prior albums 872 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 4: didn't happen. But I ended up doing the Apollo and uh, 873 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 4: that's where I met her. But I met her again 874 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 4: on Tough Crowd. She was doing Tough Crowd with Colin 875 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 4: Quinn and we kind of hit it off, and I 876 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 4: remember I just kept asking her ound. She just kept 877 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,479 Speaker 4: being a jerk, and right as I was a typical woman, 878 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 4: right the second I was like, you know what, the 879 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 4: hell with her? The hell with her? Ended up running 880 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 4: into her, and then all of a sudden she was 881 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 4: like really nice and we were hanging out. Oh my god, 882 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 4: this guy was cock blocking me so bad that night, 883 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 4: on such an epic level. 884 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 2: Don't blame him, obviously. 885 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 4: No, it's because no, if it be no, why what 886 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 4: do you mean? 887 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 2: I mean, because he's so beautiful that you understand why 888 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 2: he would come. 889 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 4: That's not why he was doing I No, you don't 890 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 4: have all the information. Give an informasic is this guy's 891 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 4: advocating cock blockers. I was like, why did you get that? 892 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 4: Chair advocating that shit. No, he was doing it because 893 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 4: he was miserable in his own relationship. So like he 894 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 4: saw me like and it was like, you know, it 895 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 4: was like fireworks, like we just like, I mean, love 896 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 4: it first night and yeah, like I've I've only met 897 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 4: two people that had like a vibe like her in 898 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 4: my life, and the first one was a dude. He 899 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 4: was just so that wasn't no, he was like no, 900 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 4: just walked in the room, you know, and you just 901 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 4: knew the person was coming the room. She has that vibe, right, 902 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 4: so uh old on, you got to clear that m 903 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 4: that will be clear. But you didn't date the guy nothing. No, 904 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna make show of black people. Lego, this homophobia. 905 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 4: You always got to check, like what are you doing 906 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 4: manicured eyebrows, Like I'm gonna sit here and act like 907 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 4: you're all good over there, Like you don't swing a 908 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 4: lego with the fence every once in a while. You 909 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 4: got fucking sandals on and white socks. You look like 910 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 4: you just came from a steam room. Yeah No, I 911 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 4: just mean, like like I I always paid attention to 912 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 4: energy because my energy was terrible. I was like all 913 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 4: introverted and blah blah blah blah. So I was fascinated 914 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 4: with people that were just free. So that's what I meant. Okay, 915 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 4: we're gonna go back to sucking dick for a show again. 916 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 4: Guy's a one trick pony over here. So we go. 917 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 4: We go to like hang out right, No, So we're 918 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 4: like vibing and everything, and I literally had to say 919 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 4: to the dude he was like a chick. I'd be like, hey, man, sorry, 920 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 4: I'm not paying attention to you. That's how they fuck 921 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 4: he was. I was just like, you know, I'm hitting 922 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 4: it off with him. Man, I think this is going 923 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 4: all right. Right, So the end of the night comes, 924 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 4: the end of the stand up show, and he just 925 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 4: comes walking over. He goes, so, hey, you guys want 926 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 4: to go get something to eat? Right, and he invites 927 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 4: her and everybody. Now I'm at this fucking table and 928 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 4: there was like, you know, ten other people there, and 929 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 4: he's all the way down the end and he's still 930 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 4: like yelling down shit, trying to interrupt any of my 931 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 4: talking to her. I think, I mean so long ago. 932 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 4: I just remember one point that check came and I 933 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 4: didn't have any money, so I said, I'll put just 934 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 4: give me the cash, I'll put her on my card. 935 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 4: He's like, oh, he's just trying to get the miles 936 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 4: like that's like that's how he was doing it, right, Hey. 937 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 4: So everybody goes to leave, and now it's just oh no, no, no. 938 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 4: It was the middle of the dinner, right or whatever 939 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 4: the fuck we were doing the cock block dinner, right, 940 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 4: And I finally just look at her. I just give up, 941 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 4: right because he won't shut the fuck up. And I 942 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 4: finally just looked at her and I go, can I 943 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 4: at least split a cab with you? Home? So she 944 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 4: does that female thing, we why do you want to 945 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 4: split a cab with me? And I just said fuck 946 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 4: it all right. I was just thinking, I go because 947 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 4: I want to kiss you, right, okay? Right? So she 948 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 4: put her head down and smiled, and I was like, 949 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 4: I got her. Fuck this guy, So I let him 950 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 4: do all his bullshit. Everybody leaves except for him, me 951 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 4: and who's going to become my future wife? And he 952 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 4: literally goes. He goes, he goes, where do you live? 953 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 4: What do you do? You live uptown? And she goes, yeah, 954 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 4: I live a tongue. Oh I love it too. He goes, 955 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 4: you want to split a cab. He's trying to leave 956 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 4: with her, and she goes, no, I'm taking a ride home. 957 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 4: I'm riding home with Bill. He's going like, oh no, 958 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 4: but I live blah. He was so in his ship, 959 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 4: he was so in his shit, like he didn't she said, 960 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 4: I'm not going to say his name. She went so, 961 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 4: and so I'm splitting a cab with Bill and I 962 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 4: didn't have to. I didn't have to say ship. I 963 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 4: just stood there. And then he he left, and it 964 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 4: was funny. I don't talk to him for four days 965 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 4: and he calls me up. He's like, hey, what's going on? 966 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 4: Like nothing, what's up? He's like, uh so, like what 967 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 4: you're not gonna You didn't call me because you thought 968 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 4: it was cock blocking you there other night And I'm 969 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 4: like you were He goes, no, I wasn't. I'm like, 970 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 4: why did you bring it up? That was the end 971 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 4: of that friendship. And you know, I just don't have time. 972 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 4: I don't have time for that, you know what I mean. 973 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 4: And plus it was also kind of teetering anyways. You 974 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 4: know it was obvious too. 975 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, your you're a woman failed to w 976 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 5: NBA joke is one of the greatest social commentaries. 977 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 4: Though, Yeah, thank you. I mean, I'm just I'm saying, yes, 978 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. How did you get how did you 979 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 4: get to that? I was watching ESPN and they were blaming. 980 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 4: They were talking about like female sports not getting money 981 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 4: and stuff like that and all of that, and like 982 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 4: he's just being in entertainment. It's like you have to 983 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 4: put asses in the seats and that's what brings the 984 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 4: money in. So there was a point where, you know, 985 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 4: professional football wasn't doing as well as college football, and 986 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 4: these guys just kept working in and working it till 987 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 4: it became like what it was. And you know, there's 988 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 4: more women than there are men, So like, this is 989 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 4: not on us that women's sports at the very least 990 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 4: aren't being supported. So they're not being supported because you 991 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 4: guys aren't showing up. So that was the seed of 992 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 4: the bit. And I always forget my material. 993 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 5: I forget how you pointed to what actually is successful 994 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 5: that women's support. 995 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah reality TV, Yeah, which is 996 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,720 Speaker 4: a bunch of women yelling at each other, yeah and fighting, yeah. 997 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, growing juice and drinks and water. 998 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, my wife likes those shows. 999 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 5: Have you seen the Texas the former Texans Funny that 1000 00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 5: place where it steel is now Cameron Johnson and they 1001 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 5: when the headlines says steal a sign Bill Burr look alike. 1002 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I've seen that. That's scary. Yeah, yeah, I 1003 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 4: concur that guy does definitely look like me. It would 1004 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 4: have been cool if he was a quarterback. But that 1005 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 4: shows how how popular you are. Oh yeah, I guess so. 1006 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 4: I don't think any of that ship really Yeah. No, 1007 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 4: that's the end of you, and that's the end of you. 1008 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 4: You start walking around these I don't know. I actually 1009 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 4: I kind of appreciate people that feel that way about themselves. 1010 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 4: Then also, I don't understand it, but I mean when 1011 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 4: you're standing there those people say that with their shirt 1012 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 4: blowing in front of a fan, in front of their 1013 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 4: own audience, that shit is hilarious to me. I don't 1014 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 4: think you can go that far. But when you think 1015 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 4: about your home, you got the sandals on, I could 1016 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 4: see you're doing that, blowing your hoodie around. I'm just 1017 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 4: gonna do it to you before you do it to me. 1018 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 4: How many times you wash that sweatshirt, by the way 1019 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 4: that it looks like a white guys sweatshirt, threw it 1020 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 4: in with the towels and okay, oh it's tied that. 1021 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, but when you think about your humble beginning, then 1022 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 5: you think about Finway Park. 1023 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 4: You got to take that in a little bit. Like 1024 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 4: I came a long way, at least I did. I did, 1025 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,760 Speaker 4: But like I get, I'm too afraid to That's basically 1026 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 4: what it is. I'm too afraid to look at what 1027 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,720 Speaker 4: I'm doing in situations like that because I need to perform. 1028 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 4: So if I get all into the you know, start 1029 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 4: thinking of the magnitude of something. I just literally saw 1030 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 4: Kevin Hart's picture on the door man. It's one of 1031 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 4: my favorite people in the business. 1032 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 5: Kevin bought he used to buy his chairs. So that's 1033 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 5: why we have him sitting in that chair because he 1034 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 5: bought for the old three. He bought all the chairs. 1035 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 4: It's one of my favorite people. All I do, our 1036 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 4: whole relationship is just giving each other ship. I don't 1037 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 4: think I had actual conversation anyway. Yeah I don't. I 1038 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 4: don't think of stuff like that. So I I I minimize, minimize, minimized, minimize. 1039 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 4: So because I had horrible anxiety when I started out, Yeah, 1040 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 4: so I had to figure out how to get The 1041 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 4: only way I could figure out how to get it 1042 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 4: past it was to look at the stuff that I 1043 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 4: was doing and act like it wasn't a big deal, 1044 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 4: just a job. They come in here, they get sitters 1045 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,839 Speaker 4: and pay you know, money to come here. I come here, 1046 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 4: I make them laugh, they leave, hopefully they come back, 1047 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 4: and I just sort of reduce it to that, and 1048 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 4: then I don't know. Then I come on a show 1049 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 4: like this and you start bringing stuff up, and that's 1050 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 4: when I think, that's when I first start thinking about it. Look, 1051 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 4: I'm getting uncomfortable now, look at the ready to go right, 1052 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 4: just thinking talking about that ship. That all comes back 1053 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 4: also comes back to like just like, uh, I don't 1054 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 4: know this weird, like low self esteem and then also 1055 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 4: like not accepting compliments. I haven't figured that part of 1056 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 4: me out past syndrome. Oh my god, first time. Yeah. 1057 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 4: I always like that's the thought that every time I 1058 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 4: get off stage, My thought is did I make him 1059 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 4: laugh enough that they're gonna come back? And I club 1060 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 4: Soda Kenny, I like, he like reassures me. I clubs 1061 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 4: club Soda Kenny is my club sort of Candy Kenny 1062 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 4: Kenny Kenny you know, I'm suspicious crazy. I'm just doing 1063 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 4: it back to you. Uh club soda Kenny legendary, uh 1064 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 4: former police officer, tour manager and uh security guy. This 1065 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 4: he's like, I made it. I made a short film 1066 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 4: with him. I gotta I gotta put it up on 1067 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 4: your your website. So he's the guy when I get offstage. 1068 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 4: He's you know, works with Dice, He's worked with everybody, 1069 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 4: and uh so he knows. And he's also you know, 1070 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 4: he's a cop jersey guy. You know, he talks like Deuce, 1071 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 4: like straight shooter. He's not going to be like, no, 1072 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 4: I was a good one, always good to blah blah blah. 1073 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 4: And then you know, I get the pat on the back. 1074 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 4: I know I I had a good one. So yeah, 1075 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,720 Speaker 4: that that is my thought. I don't walk off stage, 1076 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 4: you know, oh god, I'm not going to use that reference. 1077 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 4: Tot'll start some shit. I don't walk off stage thinking 1078 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 4: I'm the ship. I walk off stage thinking I hope 1079 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 4: that was good enough that they come back. 1080 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 6: So that was crazy because I'm literally still starstruck. Just 1081 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 6: remember when I just walked past the room and I 1082 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 6: was like, oh shit, Bilbert's Bilberg, how are you doing 1083 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 6: and he was just looking like it was like not 1084 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 6: at all, like, oh, yeah, you know, I am that guy. 1085 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 4: You know. 1086 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 2: It was just real cool. 1087 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,919 Speaker 6: And the first time you made me laugh was Racial Drafts. 1088 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,479 Speaker 4: The Dave Chappelle that you did. 1089 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 6: When it came out, but I watched it because I 1090 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 6: was a big fan of Chappelle show. 1091 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 4: And then every spot. That was one of the coolest things, 1092 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 4: the first really cool thing that I ever got on 1093 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 4: where it was like I got this experience like Beatlemania, 1094 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 4: and I only did like most of us is probably 1095 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 4: like who the hell were you that? First of all, 1096 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 4: I had hair and I only did like, you know, 1097 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 4: four Yeah. So I remember, uh, I was at this 1098 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 4: thing Bonnaroo. You guys ever heard of? Oh you have? All? Right? Okay? 1099 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 4: So Bonnaroo is like this sort of uh you know, 1100 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 4: this this music festival in Nashville. It was one of 1101 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 4: the early years of It was a lot of jam bands. 1102 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:26,919 Speaker 4: It was some really like earthy, smelly white people, sort 1103 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 4: of out in the field type of thing. Not not 1104 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 4: a city kid vibe. So it was pretty white, not 1105 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 4: country white, but damn close. And the lights went down 1106 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 4: and I was seeing like this this band, what the 1107 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 4: hell are they called practice? Like brain was on drums 1108 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 4: burning well sort of this offshoot band and the lights 1109 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,800 Speaker 4: went down. It was like ten thousand people in this 1110 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 4: tent and the lights went down and they were waiting 1111 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 4: for the band, and I just heard this, dude, just 1112 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 4: go what and then somebody else on the other side. 1113 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 7: Yell yeah, and then somebody else yelled Okay, dude, I 1114 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 7: like goosebumps, And it was like it was like right 1115 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 7: when it was I think it was right after. 1116 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 4: Rick James sketch had already like blown up, and I 1117 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,359 Speaker 4: saw like how big this show was on. I could 1118 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it. And there was like comedians were 1119 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 4: telling me, going, dude, that show you're on is fucking 1120 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 4: blowing up. I just did a college gig and like say, 1121 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 4: it came on at like ten o'clock or something like 1122 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 4: that on Comedy Central, and this show was at nine 1123 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,919 Speaker 4: point thirty, like they would be doing a show trying 1124 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 4: to do an hour at ten o'clock, like five or ten. 1125 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 4: Half the crowd would just get up and leave, and 1126 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 4: he'd be like, you know, thinking, what did I say, Well, well, 1127 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 4: we're gonna go watch the Chappelle Show. I don't know 1128 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 4: if anything gets that big again with not all of 1129 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:49,239 Speaker 4: those media, but it was like and everybody brings up, 1130 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 4: you know, the Rick James one and all of that. 1131 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 4: I will tell you this, the lawn Order sketch that 1132 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 4: I was in the first cut of that, and I 1133 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 4: think Comedy Central thought was too dark. Oh my god. 1134 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 4: It was like it was like a fucking Oscar winning 1135 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 4: movie because it was hilarious. And then it was like 1136 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 4: when the White Dude was in prison in the end, 1137 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 4: the way they did it and they cut to Dave 1138 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 4: laughing on the golf course, it wasn't funny. It was like, 1139 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 4: this is what you fuckers do to us. It was 1140 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 4: it was like wow, something Commy sents like, oh you know, 1141 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 4: we uh, I think there's a different ending. Bring it 1142 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 4: a little bit. There was a that was another thing too. 1143 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 4: I remember they used to edit it right up the 1144 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 4: street from where I was living, and I remember Neil 1145 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 4: Brennan going, you gotta, you gotta come see this ship. 1146 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 4: And I got to see them the Rick James s 1147 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 4: ketch before anybody else, and I remember laughing my ass off, 1148 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 4: and they just became a point I stopped laughing and 1149 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 4: I was just like this is like, I've never seen 1150 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 4: anything like this in my life. Yes, that was probably 1151 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 4: the first kind of still like the one of the 1152 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 4: coolest things. I got to be on him at Charlie 1153 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 4: Murphy Rest his soul. He's up into We got him 1154 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 4: up there in the corner. Oh yeah, oh man, the 1155 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 4: stories that went with that guy. Yeah, he had, Oh 1156 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 4: my god, his stories. He had endless. He told this 1157 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 4: story one time and it was all stuff from the eighties. 1158 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 4: It would be so like, yo, yo, how was at 1159 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 4: this party? Was me, Sugar Ray Leonard and Punky Brewster? Right, 1160 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 4: like what party is this? It was just all these 1161 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,359 Speaker 4: like eighties icons Right then he was talking about sugar 1162 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 4: Ey Leonard being drunk, talking about how he how quickly 1163 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 4: he could throw punches at your ribs and not hit you, 1164 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 4: and and he said that these white guys were letting 1165 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 4: him do it. He was drunk and he kept hitting 1166 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 4: him and they would like fold in half, and he 1167 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 4: was crying, laughing, telling her I was going, why the 1168 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 4: fuck would they do? I don't know. That's the nicer 1169 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 4: one I can tell. 1170 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 5: So that the funny thing about your pail when you 1171 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,399 Speaker 5: look at chapel and now you you rewatch it. You'll 1172 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 5: see you, You'll see Joe Rogan, you'll see Neil Brandy, 1173 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 5: you'll see all of these people who have gone on 1174 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 5: to be you know, icons of the known. 1175 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 4: Right now. Yeah, Dave gave me one of the u 1176 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,800 Speaker 4: one of the greatest pep talks I ever got, I 1177 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,919 Speaker 4: ever got. Like it's funny because I'm older than Dave, 1178 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 4: but Dave started so young. I always look at him 1179 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 4: like an older brother, right, And uh, I was doing 1180 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 4: some shit at the cellar, you know, and I got 1181 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 4: off stage and he was sitting on the stairs. Fortunately 1182 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 4: I didn't know he was there. I would at that 1183 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 4: point in my career would have been like intimidated somebody 1184 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 4: that big watching me. And I remember him telling me, 1185 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 4: he's like, man, your point of view was so dope, man, 1186 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 4: and he goes, it's gonna but it's gonna take you 1187 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 4: a lot longer to get there, but when you do, 1188 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 4: you're gonna hit hard. And I, dude, I fucking held 1189 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 4: on to that for like seven years on the road 1190 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 4: going Dave think some funny, Dave thinks some funny. 1191 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was right, that's right. Yeah, all right, Bill 1192 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 2: fucking bird Man, all right, joining. 1193 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 4: Us, all right, thank you for having you. Guys were nice. 1194 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 4: Everybody got me all nerves like you guys, let's not go? Why, 1195 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 4: let's not go? Why? You know why? You know why? 1196 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1197 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 4: Yes, I gonna be honest with you. I listened. I 1198 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 4: listened to one clip and I shut it off after 1199 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 4: eight seconds. You what clip was it? Somebody said something like, well, 1200 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 4: you know sometimes, uh, sometimes whatever the hell he was 1201 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 4: talking about, and I just hear you go, why would 1202 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 4: you do that? Like? Oh, ship? Is it gonna be this? 1203 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 5: Larry King always says the best question to ask is why. 1204 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 5: Because people say that, and I really do be curious. 1205 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 5: I'm like, well why why is always the best question. 1206 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 4: That's a better Yeah, it's a better why Your why wasn't? 1207 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 4: That wasn't the read. It was like the subtext was 1208 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 4: why the funk would you do that? No, it isn't. 1209 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 4: But I had a good time. It's my insecurity. I 1210 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 4: hope you had me back you to know that there's 1211 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 4: a lot of people I know that that hold you 1212 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 4: in very, very high. 1213 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 5: The young comedians, older comedians like Pete Davison always talked 1214 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 5: about you all the time. 1215 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 4: Ricky Gervai, Yeah, Pete, I remember Pete was another guy. 1216 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 4: He had that vibe. He was just memorable. I met him. 1217 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 4: He was like like like twelve thirteen years old, already 1218 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 4: as tall as me, and I remember years later he 1219 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 4: started doing Stalley. Four years later, he goes, I don't 1220 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 4: know if you remember. I just I remember I said, 1221 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 4: Atlantic City. You were standing there with your mom, So 1222 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 4: all right, how many times we're gonna wrap this up? 1223 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 4: I think it's that's all right? Thank you so much. 1224 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 4: I really appreciate what is Bill? All right? Thank you? 1225 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wake that ass up 1226 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 2: in the morning. 1227 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club