1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Remember when baseball had the Mitchell Report and I always 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: hated that, and I'm like, well, you took like two clubhouses. 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: You took a couple of you know, al East clubhouses 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: and Eastern like met Clubhouse or Red Sox or Yankee Clubhouse. 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: That that's not a macro. Look. 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: The Mitchell Report I always thought was unfair and maybe 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm talking to the wrong people. Albert Breer Monday morning 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: quarterback joins us, everybody's telling me he's a good prospect. 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: I don't know. 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: I mean to beat Ohio State and that Miami defa 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: I thought against Miami late it was unbelievable in Oregon. 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean they were in so many 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: close games and they won all of them. 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: I mean, what are your people telling you? A Mendoza. 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 4: I think it's probably similar to what you're hearing, you know, Like, 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 4: I think the best way to look at this is 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 4: always with the historical context and how he fit into 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 4: other draft classes. And I don't think he would be 26 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: the number one overall pick in every draft. Is the 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: way that I would term it. If you go back 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 4: two years ago, when Caleb Williams went first, jayde and 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 4: Daniels went second, Drake May won third, Pennix went eighth, 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 4: McCarthy went tenth, and Nix went twelfth. The consensus I've 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: gotten is that he would have been the fourth of 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 4: those quarterbacks, so right in the middle, and the cop 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: I've gotten as Jared Goff, and I think if you 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: look at him physically, what he's able to do, how 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: natural a stroke he's got, the composure he has working 36 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: from the pocket, and his ability to play off of 37 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: play action a lot of RPO stuff at Indiana, the 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 4: same way there was at Cal all those years ago. 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: You can see the comp there. So you know, I 40 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 4: think most teams like the makeup, They like how much 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 4: he's won, They liked the accuracy. They think, even though 42 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 4: he hasn't played in a true pro style offense, he's 43 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 4: got the ability to do that based on his ability 44 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 4: to process, but is he physically what you know, say 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: Drake May was coming out of North Carolina, or Jaden 46 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 4: Daniels was coming out LSU, or Caleb Williams was coming 47 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: out of USC. 48 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: He's not that. 49 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so would have gone fourth or fifth in that direct? 50 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: Did they like him better than JJ McCarthy, Yes, and 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: Better than Pennix, better than McCarthy, better than Nicks, but 53 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 3: not as good as those others, right, and look like Colin. 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 4: I think those other three, I mean one of them 55 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: was just in the Super Bowl, the other one was 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: in the NFC, another one was in the NFC title 57 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 4: game last year, and then the third one is Caleb Williams, 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 4: you know, who was in the divisional round of the 59 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: playoffs and went toe toe with Matthew Stafford. 60 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: So, like, I think the bar would be pretty high. 61 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 4: If the bar is the twenty four draft, but I'm 62 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 4: just using that as a for example. There are other 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 4: draft classes where he would have gone number one overall. 64 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: I think he would have been in the mix last 65 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 4: year with cam Ward. 66 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: You know I was saying, and this is just my interpretation. 67 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: I grew up out West. You grew up out east. 68 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: I think you grew up at every place right. And 69 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: I always had this theory when I worked at the 70 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: other place, ESPN, that West Coast people all go east 71 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: by the time they're twenty five for business to go 72 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: to Europe connecting flight, they want to see New York City. 73 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: Eastern people don't necessarily go west. When I worked at ESPN, 74 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: half the building thought that Pittsburgh was west. I mean 75 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: they thought anything west of the Hudson River was like. 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, whoa. 77 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I didn't even know if it's in Denver, right, And 78 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: so West Coast fans pay attention to the Yankees, Red Sox, 79 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: the Eagles. 80 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: A lot of Patriot fans are like, I don't know 81 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: anything about Seattle, and I don't. 82 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: Think they understand how great Mike McDonald made me maybe 83 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: the next Sean McVay, and how great the GM is. 84 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: He's Howie Roseman, but actually in a draft the last 85 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: four years better. And so when I look at Seattle, 86 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: I think a lot of fans that are removed from 87 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest like, don't realize how good and deep 88 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: this roster is. I mean, everybody likes to come to 89 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: the cat in this league. I don't think you can 90 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: copy what Seattle's done, can you? 91 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: Right? 92 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 4: And I agree, I think like he's got a Hall 93 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: of Fame case now John Schneider does, like having one 94 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: with two completely different groups, you know. 95 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: Like I, and you look. 96 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: At the roster and that's what sustainable about it is 97 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: that there's so many young players that went. And I 98 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: think we talked about this before the year, right, Like 99 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 4: the Seattle Seahawks were one of those teams that had 100 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: a lot of very good young players where if those 101 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 4: play could become great players, well then they'd really have something. 102 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 4: And we know about the older veterans on the team, 103 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: Leonard Williams, Cooper Cup, guys they got from the outside 104 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 4: right that have been important pieces for him. 105 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 3: Ernest Jones is another one of those. 106 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 4: But you look at the young guys that they've drafted 107 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 4: and developed, and how many of those guys elevated this 108 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: year Jackson Smith and Jig but Charles Cross, Kenneth Walker 109 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 4: Byron Murphy became a monster on the defensive line. Devin 110 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 4: Witherspoon I think could have been Super Bowl MVP. Then 111 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 4: this year they draft Nicki Manorie and Gray Zabel and 112 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: it's interesting, you know. I think John Schneider is one 113 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: of the best things about him as he keeps evolving, right. 114 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 4: So his ability to do this was part of a 115 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 4: self evaluation after some of the lesion of boom guys 116 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 4: started to age out, where he went back and looked 117 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 4: at it and said, where have we started making our mistakes? 118 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: And their mistakes were made when they were. 119 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 4: Reaching for guys right and you see the result now 120 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: where they don't reach as much. 121 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba is a great example of it. 122 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: The top rated guy on their board at the time, 123 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 4: right when they were picking there, I think was twentieth 124 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: overall in the twenty twenty three drafts. At the time, 125 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 4: they had DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett on big contracts, 126 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: but they picked him anyway because he's a great player. 127 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 4: And now the other two guys are gone, and Jasen 128 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 4: is the best receiver in football. 129 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 5: So it's just. 130 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: Decisions like that, the ability to self evaluate, the ability. 131 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: To just go and find great players. 132 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: The Seahawks have a chance to be very good for 133 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: a very long time because they've continued to look in 134 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 4: the mirror. They've continued to find ways to get great 135 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 4: players in the roster. They found solutions at quarterback, and 136 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 4: they knew when to say when I mean, you give 137 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: John Schneider a credit for the coach too, right, Like 138 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: he was the one who went out and found Mike 139 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 4: McDonald and was willing to wait three weeks for Mike 140 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: McDonald when everybody else was snapping up their head coaches. 141 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 4: There were eight teams that had openings that year, so 142 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 4: Schneider deserves a ton of credit for what's happened. They're 143 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: no question, it's hard to replicate because so much of it. 144 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: It's just about the nuts bolts of being a GM, 145 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 4: which is about getting good people in the building. 146 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about the coaching hires. 147 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: So I think it was the Athletic went out and 148 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: asked nine executives, and Joe Brady ranked very low, And 149 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: I said, what's happening in Buffalo is fascinating because Brandon 150 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: Bean's already getting heat locally fans and media on his drafting. 151 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: So now he goes in the building to hire the 152 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: replacement for a very good coach. If you look at 153 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: the schedule next year for the Buffalo Bills, Albert we 154 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: put it up earlier. They are facing the greatest coaching 155 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: opposition schedule Vrabel twice. Look at this, Andy Reid, Rabel twice, Harbaugh, 156 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Peyton, Dan Campbell, Matt Lafleur, Dimko Ryan, Sean McVay. 157 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: So they're not drafting well, Brandon Bean's getting a ton 158 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: of heat. They hire in the building and that usually 159 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: doesn't work. And this schedule, I mean, I think, and 160 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean there's an argument that there'll be in a 161 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: coaching deficit even if Brady's solid in nine games, ten games. 162 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: Let's say it goes sideways in Buffalo. How maybe I'll 163 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: just start it with this. I think the heat's greater 164 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: than Brandon Bean wants to acknowledge. The media, the fans. 165 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: I think Joe Brady realistically Thanksgiving. If they're struggling against 166 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: this schedule, I think the heat gets racketed up. That 167 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, right, Yeah. 168 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 4: There's pressure on everybody because of the quarterback. I mean, 169 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 4: let's make no mistake about this. I mean, he's going 170 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 4: to be thirty years old this offseason, and there's a 171 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 4: ton of pressure on everybody in that building to win 172 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: while he's still in his prime. And because of the 173 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: amount of damage he's taken on because of his play style, right, 174 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: Like you don't know whether or not he's gonna be 175 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 4: able to He hasn't every intention of playing until he's forty, 176 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 4: But you don't know, like is it going to be 177 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 4: the same at thirty four? 178 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: Is it going to be the same at thirty six? 179 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: And so what that does is it creates a situation 180 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: where there's pressure on everyone in there to try to 181 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: maximize what they have with Josh Allen and the here 182 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 4: and the now, and so a lot of it for 183 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: Joe Brady is going to be about getting a better 184 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: return on investment from the players they've already paid. And 185 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 4: this is the mistake that people make with them. People 186 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 4: think like, okay, like the window is closing. 187 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: It's not. 188 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 4: It's whether or not this second group of players that 189 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: they put around Josh Allen is as good as the 190 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: first group. And so it's Greg Russo, it's Terrell Bernard, 191 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 4: It's Koil Shakir, It's Dalton Kincaid, It's Christian Benford, is 192 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 4: James Cook, it's all of these guys that now have 193 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: contracts where you're looking at them saying can they elevate? 194 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: And that's going to be. 195 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 4: The pressure on Joe Brady and his staff maximizing those guys. Now, 196 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: I think they are going to be aggressive, and they 197 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 4: could go out and sign somebody like Alec Pierce from 198 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 4: the Colts who could be a difference maker for them. 199 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 3: Think you're going to see those sorts of things. 200 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: But because of the way that Brandon Beans built, they 201 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 4: are locked in with a core that they have right now, 202 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 4: and I think the question is going to be can 203 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: that core be good enough to. 204 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: Compete for a championship? 205 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 4: And the pressure now falls on the coaching staff to 206 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 4: get the most out of those guys. 207 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: I said yesterday to defend Drake May one year ago 208 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: from about you know today, Sam Darnold got sacked nine 209 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: times and was dreadful against the Rams. YEP a year later, 210 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: he's hoisting a trophy. Things change. Drake May was awful, 211 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: but it's also Seattle's defense. But his inefficiency, he looked rattled, nervous, 212 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: may have not been one hundred percent. Do you think 213 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: privately there are some concerns about not just a Super Bowl. 214 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: He was a turnover mess for about a month at 215 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: the end. Once they played good teams, the schedule was 216 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: so easy. Once they ratcheted up defenses. He looked overwhelmed 217 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: a lot. You think privately there's a little concern. 218 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: I would tell you privately, what they're saying right now 219 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: is about where he's at, and that. 220 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: You know. 221 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 4: I think, like what you saw in the playoffs was 222 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: sort of reflective of some of the stuff that you 223 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 4: saw on the college tape, which was his first year 224 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 4: in North Carolina. A lot of things first year starting 225 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: at North Carolina in twenty two, a lot of things 226 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 4: were right around him, and he was great and looked 227 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: like a number one pick in the draft, and then 228 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 4: the next year lost his offensive coordinator. I believe Phil 229 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 4: Longo went to Wisconsin, he lost his best receiver. I 230 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 4: think his best receiver that year was Josh Downs. You'd 231 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: have to look that up. There was an eligibility question 232 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: with his best receiver coming back the next year that 233 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 4: was tes Walker. Sort of all these moving parts and 234 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: he started to have to take on more and sort 235 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: of play some hero ball and that wound up costing 236 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 4: him in the evaluation of some teams, right, and so 237 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: like what you've seen over the course of his career 238 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: sort of a microcosm of that year. 239 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 3: One some up some downs. 240 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 4: He had to carry that group because it wasn't a 241 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 4: very good team. Year two, they get a lot better. 242 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 4: The schedule contributes to it, and you see a guy 243 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 4: who go out there and be really effective and efficient 244 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: and play smart football. And then when you get to 245 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 4: the playoffs at flips right where they went from either 246 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: being talent equated or having a talent advantage. Now they're 247 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: in these playoff settings or the other team has better 248 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: players than they do. You know, when you're talking about 249 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 4: the defense versus the offense, and you look at that 250 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: they played in the playoffs. 251 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 6: It was the. 252 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 4: Chargers, the Texans, the Broncos, and the Seahawks. That might 253 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 4: be for the five best defenses in football, Colin, And so, like, 254 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 4: I think that that's part of it, you know, is 255 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 4: like that there was more on Drake to carry the 256 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 4: team in the playoffs, and I think you saw some 257 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 4: of the bad habits come back. They're confident that he's 258 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: a smart kid, They're confident that he is got the 259 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: right sort of head on his shoulders for all of this, 260 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 4: that he's resilient and that he's a hard enough worker 261 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 4: to get through it. But I think what you saw 262 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 4: in the playoffs was maybe a little bit more of 263 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: a reflection of where he's truly at now. I voted 264 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 4: for him for MVP. I think he did more to 265 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: carry his team than anybody in football this year. But 266 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 4: if you look at him and how he looked against 267 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 4: that Seattle defense with all they throw at you versus 268 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: House Matthew Stafford looked two weeks earlier, That's where I 269 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: think you see a little bit of the learning curve, 270 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: you know. And look, he's twenty three years old, so 271 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 4: there's every reason to believe he's going to get there. 272 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: But it doesn't happen overnight. 273 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: Good stuff Monday morning. Quarterback Albert Brewer is always buddy, great, 274 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: seeing you all right? 275 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: Thanks gong you bet. 276 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's there's just there's just no other way to 277 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: put it. I said it last week. Can't be president 278 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: until you're thirty five. Stafford's life experience, quarterback experience snaps 279 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: in the facility all the film he's watched, all his 280 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: starts and Drake May, Drake May can't possibly be Matt Stafford. 281 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: He can't possibly go to the line of scrimmage and 282 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: look at that Rubik's cube and flip it. He just can't. 283 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: He's too young. He can't do it. 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You do it 307 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 7: today and you can check all of those out on 308 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 7: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. 309 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 310 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: Great to have you and Drew Brees in about twenty minutes. 311 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: Jmack with the news. 312 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 8: No, no tarn on the news. 313 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News. 314 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 9: All right, I think we're worn out on your Seattle Seahawks, 315 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 9: so let's go to your second favorite team, Colum the 316 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 9: Denver Broncos and Bo Nixon, Sean Payton. They are close. 317 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 9: It sounds like to replacing their OC Joe Lombardi. Everybody 318 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 9: knew it was going to be Davis Webb, but how 319 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 9: about this one Colin. Davis Webb reportedly will be calling 320 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 9: plays in Denver. Now, I am very dubious that Sean 321 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 9: Payton has obviously called plays since he's been a head coach, 322 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 9: and now he's going to give it up for Davis Webb, 323 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 9: a first time play caller. This is a shocking development. 324 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 9: And well, this is I don't want to say, I 325 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 9: don't believe it, but I'll. 326 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: Believe it when I see it. 327 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: Can I say that I think Sean has wanted to 328 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: get off play call oh okay, and maybe was loyal 329 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: to Lombardi but did not necessarily completely trust him, And 330 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: I think he thinks Davis Webb, that's why he made 331 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: the move, is sort of next level. He's one of 332 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: these sharp young guys. That's nothing against Joel Lombardi, but 333 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: that was his loyal buddy, and ally that doesn't necessarily 334 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: mean you think he can be Ben Johnson. So I 335 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: think you see this on staffs all the time, where 336 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: you know you've got your friends, you hire people that 337 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: you like and respect, but do you really think they're 338 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: at the top top of the food chain, they're the 339 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: next Mike McDonald or Sean McVay. And I'm not saying 340 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: Davis Webb is, but there is a sense around the 341 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: league that, like a Demico Ryans before he got hired, 342 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: people are talking about this young coach as potentially a 343 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: next great young coach. 344 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 9: Everybody loves the shiny new thing, right Davis Webb. 345 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: I mean he was in the league like what. 346 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 9: Six years ago, former Texas Tech quarterback. 347 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I don't know the excitement. I'm listening. 348 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 9: He's probably gonna be good, but the excitement over every 349 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 9: new thing. How about this column? Is this Sean Payton 350 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 9: lining up a secession plan for him? Hey, we got 351 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 9: bo Nicks on the rookie deal for two more years, 352 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 9: let's try to win a super Bowl. I walk in 353 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 9: for then off into the sunset, and Davis Web takes 354 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 9: over for me. 355 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: I think Sean wants to coach more than two years. 356 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: I would say maybe four years, four more years. 357 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 9: Well, Davis Web's not sticking around for four years as 358 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 9: an OC. If you're hot and like you're one of 359 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 9: these superstars, you stay around one, maybe two at best three, 360 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 9: and then you know you look for a head coaching gig. 361 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 9: But it's weird you contrast this with what's going on 362 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 9: in Seattle. Do we like it? I mean they handed 363 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 9: it off in house. I thought we didn't love that. 364 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: Uh, it's different. You didn't lose a guy who elevated, 365 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: You fired a. 366 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: Guy he did. You did get off a guy. 367 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: Yet different when you're firing a guy and then replacing 368 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: in house, that's like, we got a guy better in 369 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: house that that has proved. When when a guy leaves 370 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: an upgrades in house. The answer generally isn't really good 371 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: guy in house? So I don't I think they feel Okay, Well. 372 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: We'll see. We'll see what the Broncos. 373 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 9: Let's move on to John Harbaugh, Jesse Minter and the 374 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 9: Baltimore Ravens. So you move off Harball, you bring in 375 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 9: Mint and his first order of business is going to 376 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 9: have to figure out this Lamar Jackson contract Colin. Interestingly, 377 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 9: the owner, Steve Bishatti, remember last month he said he 378 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 9: wants to have an extension finalized before free agency, Colin, 379 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 9: Is that a surprise to you? 380 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: A new deal for Lamar before free agency? 381 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: No? 382 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: He has two years. 383 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 9: Left on his five year, two hundred and sixty. 384 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: Million dollar deal. 385 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: This is why I'm not buying them as a super 386 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: Bowl team, got it? I just you can't pay your 387 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: quarterback this level. We saw Mahomes and Allen who are 388 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: better quarterbacks. You have a limited limitations in your roster. 389 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: If you want to be the highest paid guy, congrats, 390 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: but you're not a super Bowl team. 391 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: How often? 392 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 9: How much do you think? Minter discussed this with Mashati, like, hey, 393 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 9: what are we doing at quarterback? How much are you 394 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 9: paying Lamar. 395 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 3: Well, Minter wanted a job, and Baltimore's a good job. 396 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: You take the job. 397 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, but Lamar third highest cap hit next season, second 398 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 9: in twenty twenty seven. 399 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: Now this is where it gets interesting. 400 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 9: Colin Lamar, remember the last time they went to negotiating, 401 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 9: he said he wanted fully guaranteed deal. Remember that it 402 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 9: was ugly, his mom was his agent, and it was 403 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 9: getting it was on the heels of Sean Watson deal 404 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 9: and he wanted fully guaranteed. 405 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: Is this one gonna get messy in Baltimore? 406 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so. 407 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, well we shall see. Finally, let's go to 408 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 9: Todd mcshay's mock draft. He was on the show yesterday 409 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 9: and one interesting thing we wanted to revisit here is 410 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 9: his his claim or view in that ty Simpson should 411 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 9: be a good fit in the Sean McVay offense to 412 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 9: replace Matt Stafford. 413 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: Not obviously next year, but here's McVeigh here. 414 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 9: Here he is talking McShay on ty Simpson to the Rams. 415 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 10: I think with McVeigh with one year behind Stafford, let's say, 416 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 10: in that offensive system with a coach's son's mind, I 417 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 10: think that could work. 418 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 8: I put him at thirteen in this mock draft. 419 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 10: As of right now, I don't think that that's gonna happen, 420 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 10: but wait for it. Like too many I've been doing 421 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 10: this two and a half decades. As we get closer 422 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 10: without other quarterbacks, someone's gonna rise and I could see 423 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 10: Ty winning over a lot of coaches in those meetings. 424 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 2: You're close to McVeigh, let me just ask you. 425 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: You know I have a good I'm. 426 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 9: Sorry, not McVay, micksha, mister McShay Todd. So we know 427 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 9: how this process works. When you talk draft, people want 428 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 9: to talk skill position guys in quarterbacks. They don't want 429 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 9: to talk to big uglies on the offensive line. We 430 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 9: know that matters more. But is this McShay pumping up 431 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 9: a quarterback, because really, it looks like we're a one 432 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 9: quarterback in the first round right now, and that's not 433 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 9: sexy for drafts. 434 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: No. I think it's a great draft. 435 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of big markets and fascinating teams. 436 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean even the Rams and the Chiefs are up 437 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: there like it's I think it's a very good draft. 438 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a I mean, you got a 439 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: star quarterback. I don't think Mickshay's pumping up anything. I 440 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: think ty Simpson, uh, you know, there's there's reasons I 441 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: think he has. I think he has a nice arm. 442 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: I think he has a plus arm. Actually, I don't 443 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: see him as a I mean, I'm a plus arm. 444 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: I think he's got a good arm. I don't see 445 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: him a first round guy. But I but I also 446 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: didn't see Jackson Dart as a first round guy. I 447 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: thought Jackson Dart was middle or upper second round. And 448 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: Jackson had a nice rookie year. 449 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 9: Well, he also went like twenty five ish. 450 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 3: The ram second pick is near the bab. 451 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 9: Then that's not horrible, it's weird. I like Ty Simpson 452 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 9: all season, Colin, and then he got so much love 453 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 9: it was like top ten times. 454 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute. 455 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 9: I saw the guy had some good comebacks and he 456 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 9: started to crater late. 457 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: Only started for one year. I don't know. 458 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 9: I'm thinking second round will be ideal. Jets will take 459 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 9: him in the second. Well, gladly take him in the second. 460 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: They could get l way they are not winning stopped. 461 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: They could literally get Caleb Williams and it would go 462 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: sidew oh come on, Well it did with Sam Darnel. 463 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: He looks pretty good. 464 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: He was not good back then. 465 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: It's funny he got that good. Yeah, j after the news. 466 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 5: Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the. 467 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 3: Herd Line News. Drew Brees Hall of Famer. 468 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 5: Next, be sure to catch live editions of The Herd 469 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 5: Weekdays and Noone Easter not a em Pacific. 470 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: Twenty NFL season, thirteen time Pro bowler, a Super Bowl champ. 471 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: I was just watching some of that Saint Super Bowl 472 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: with the coach colts Man that was well coached, stack 473 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: roster Drew Brees, and now he is a first ballot 474 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. 475 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 3: He's joining us live from New York. He was doing 476 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 3: stuff with a. 477 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: Company Stretch Zomo'll get to that in a second. 478 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: So it's interesting. 479 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: We have footage of Dan Foutz, former Oregon Duck Charger, 480 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: knocking on the door, and so I mean, you got 481 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: a sense it could happen, So like, just take me 482 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: to that moment when you saw Dan. 483 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: What'd you think. 484 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 8: It was? 485 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 6: It was a shock, but really it was like the 486 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 6: setup before that. So it was it was my birthday 487 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 6: a few days prior to that, and I share a 488 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 6: birthday with my son Balen, who was the one year 489 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 6: old that I held up at Super Bowl, who's now 490 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 6: seventeen in driving by the way. So the weekend, the 491 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 6: weekend was all about him. So Monday rolls around, and 492 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 6: my daughter, who's eleven years old, who was like my 493 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 6: absolute sweetheart, It's like, Dad, I don't want to take 494 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 6: you out to eat at five o'clock. And so I'm like, 495 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 6: my heart's melting. I'm like, oh, absolutely, sweetie, so be 496 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 6: ready by five. So I'm ready, my wife's ready, my 497 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 6: daughter's ready, and the boys are messing around upstairs. I'm like, boys, 498 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 6: let's go. Ryland said, five o'clock. We're out the door. 499 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 6: They're still messing around, Like I'm starting to get frustrated. 500 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 6: I'm literally about to leave the boys like they're being disrespectful. 501 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 8: We're leaving, like teach them a lesson. 502 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 6: And then and then there's a knock at the door, 503 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 6: and I'm like, who's knocking at the door. 504 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 8: We're trying to get out of the house, you know. 505 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 6: And so then there's Dan Folence and ten cameras, you know, 506 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 6: and it's like, oh boy, you got me. 507 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: Oh that is a great that is a great story. 508 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: You are just about to teach your sons a life lesson. 509 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: And then time achievement award next. That's how it should work. 510 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 8: That's right. 511 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 6: In the meantime, my wife told them like, hey, you 512 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 6: guys stall stall until they knock on the door. 513 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 8: We can't leave, you know. So she had this whole 514 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 8: thing orchestrated the whole time. 515 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: Oh that's great, so you know, it's fun. 516 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: The people were saying, Sam Darnold, They said, Sam, you 517 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: know Colin, you love Donald. He didn't do anything, and 518 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: I joked, I said, yeah, I didn't throw a pick, 519 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: he didn't fumble, he didn't have multiple sacks. 520 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: And I went back and looked this up. 521 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: Here are super Bowl winning quarterbacks with no playoff turnovers, 522 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, and Sam Darnald. 523 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 3: And what do you have in common? 524 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: You're great, your coaches are great, and your rosters were 525 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: really good. I'm watching your Saints' highlights during the break. 526 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you guys had good players. Take me 527 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: to that playoff run by you. Did you understand, Drew, 528 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: this is the best roster I may have had. There 529 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: are certain throws. Maybe I won't make this playoff run. 530 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 6: You know, obviously we were ultra confident, you know, with 531 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 6: that team and going into the nine playoffs. 532 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 8: If you recall we started off thirteen and zho, you know, 533 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 8: we were rolling. 534 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 6: We lost the stuff one to Dallas, then we lost 535 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 6: a tough one to Tampa where we lost it or 536 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 6: we missed the field going over time in the exact 537 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 6: same spot where we made the. 538 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 8: Field goal in the NFC Championship to advance. 539 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 6: The super But I think when we looked at kind 540 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 6: of our road through the playoffs, look, it was it 541 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 6: was a gauntlet. You know, Kurt Warner was coming to 542 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 6: town Hall of Fame quarterback right they were airing it out. 543 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 6: Then NFC Championship it was Brett Farv and that Vikings team, 544 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 6: which was as good a Vikings team as I've ever seen. 545 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 8: And then obviously we were. 546 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 6: Going to play you know, Peyton Manning arguably a team 547 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 6: that could have been undefeated that year. They kind of 548 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 6: just threw the last two games so they could rest 549 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 6: their starters. So like we kind of knew what was 550 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 6: ahead of us, and yet we knew that if we 551 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 6: played our game and executed the way that we knew 552 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 6: that we could, that we could win and I would 553 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 6: always define our team as a somewhat aggressive team, you know, 554 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 6: knowing Sean Payton, knowing kind of the way he likes 555 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 6: to call a game. 556 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 8: I think it also equipped and empowered me as the quarterback. 557 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 6: Though in a lot of cases where I knew he 558 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 6: was going to be aggressive, I knew he was going 559 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 6: to dial it up. But I also knew that he 560 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 6: had trust and confidence in me to make great decisions, 561 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 6: to check the ball down if it wasn't there, to 562 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 6: not take any unnecessary chances because hey, we'll come back 563 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 6: and call it again. And so a lot of that 564 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 6: confidence and a lot of you know, playing that way 565 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 6: and at that level was the result of the confidence 566 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 6: that I knew he had in me. 567 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: Do you have a little soft spot for Donald? Based 568 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: on your first couple of years weren't perfect and Donald's 569 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: first several weren't. When you look at Sam, do you 570 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: you find yourself like Root and for him because that 571 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: journey you have some similarities. 572 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 6: One thousand percent one thousand percent, And honestly, I think 573 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 6: it embodies all the lessons that we hope to teach 574 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 6: our kids through sports and through team athletics, and that 575 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 6: is that you will face adversity. You will face failure 576 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 6: and disappointment, and it's how you react to it that matters. 577 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 6: And while it didn't work at the first couple of 578 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 6: teams that he went to, he continued to work. He 579 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 6: continued to recognize where he needed to get better and learn. 580 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 6: And I look at the journey that he traveled, and 581 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 6: while it wasn't maybe the road that he would have 582 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 6: envisioned when he first got in the league, it was 583 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 6: meant to be. And it's what has brought out the 584 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 6: best in him and allowed him to play. 585 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 8: The way that he has, lead the way that he has, 586 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 8: and also inspire others the way that he has. 587 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: When you think of Drew, when I think Drew Brees, 588 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: if somebody said give me a sentence for every quarterback 589 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: that played, and people said Drew Brees, and I'd be like, 590 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: that's the most accurate quarterback I've ever seen play. And 591 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: I've always had this feeling, and I was I'm clearly wrong, 592 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: but I always had this feeling I could improve a 593 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: lot about a quarterback. I can't make you bigger, but 594 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: if you're not accurate, you're never going to be super accurate. 595 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: Like it did well, and by the way. I think 596 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: accuracy is very important. So you first couple of years 597 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: in the league were around sixty percent, and then you 598 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: end as the most accurate quarterback any of us have 599 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: ever seen. And it was that And I look at 600 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. People bang on him and I'm like, well, 601 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of horsepower if he can get 602 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: to sixty three percent, and then I'm kind of good 603 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: with it. So tell me you went from like average 604 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: sixty percent. Now that was a different time in the 605 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: NFL where that was better than what sixty percent is today. 606 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: That was like sixty five percent, but then you became 607 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: the most accurate guy. 608 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: Obviously a lot of it. 609 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: Is you and the time and the devotion, but was 610 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: it also coaching wall Tell me how you got to 611 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: the greatest, most accurate quarterback? Off pretty accurate? Like what 612 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: was it? 613 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 9: So? 614 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 6: First off, to me, accuracy is trust and anticipation. 615 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 8: So it's the. 616 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 6: Trust in the chemistry and the timing that you developed 617 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 6: with the guys that you're throwings to your ability to 618 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 6: anticipate what happening given your preparation, your knowledge of your 619 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 6: own system. I think it's also understanding what wins and 620 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 6: loses in the NFL and the premium that you put 621 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 6: on being in a third and short situation than a 622 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 6: third and long situation. 623 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 8: Well, what's the difference between that. 624 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 6: Well, maybe it was the fact that I took the 625 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 6: checkdown as opposed to taking the risk on that play, 626 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 6: Like just because I know I can make that throw. 627 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 8: You have to have this. 628 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 6: Internal mechanism that kind of tells you, hey, that's a 629 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 6: one in ten completion versus I take this checkdown and 630 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 6: that gets me to third and four. Well, the chances 631 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 6: and probabilities of me converting that are much much higher 632 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 6: than being a third and ten, And so I'll give you. 633 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 6: Like with Caleb Williams, here's a guy who we watched 634 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 6: in college make miraculous plays like run around and do 635 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 6: all kinds of stuff. And I think you get wired 636 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 6: a certain way early in your career that hey, this 637 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 6: is how I play the game, and then you get 638 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 6: into the NFL game and you begin to understand No, 639 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 6: it's more about playing within the system, the timing and 640 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 6: rhythm with your feet, taking the completions that you need 641 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 6: to take. Occasionally, you're going to have to, you know, 642 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 6: do the kind of the off script stuff. But for 643 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 6: the most part, the game is won and lost by 644 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,239 Speaker 6: just ahead of the chains, getting the ball in your 645 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 6: playmaker's hands, making good decisions and being on time and 646 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 6: executing the offense. 647 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 8: So I think that that that certainly can come. 648 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 6: Yes, there's a you know, there's a something to just 649 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 6: the mechanics right and the things that she will continue. 650 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 8: Like towards the end of my career, I was so 651 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 8: tuned with my. 652 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 6: Body and like when I would miss the throw, why 653 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 6: that was, oh, you know, I over it was too 654 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 6: large a stride, or my elbow dropped, or I didn't 655 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 6: have my front foot out in front of the target. 656 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 8: Like I could. I could fix problems immediately. 657 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 6: Right, just given the fact that I was so in 658 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 6: tune with my body and I knew what would lead 659 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 6: to accuracy. 660 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 8: So all these things happened with with time. 661 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 6: But I think the coaching part of it is, hey, 662 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 6: open receiver, you know, lived to a play other day, 663 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 6: make good decisions, you know, never go broke. 664 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 8: Taking a profit. Completions are at a premium. 665 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 666 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: By the way, you may be going through the Lincoln 667 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: Tunnel right now, but I got to ask you about streets, 668 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: a stretch zone, a company, your part if you were 669 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: all over New York, you were on Wall Street today, 670 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: you were on the morning shows. 671 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 3: What is stretch Zone? He is in the Lincoln Tunnel, 672 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: isn't he? 673 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's exactly. Hey. 674 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: You got me now, Yes, I got you? 675 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 8: You give me am I back? Hey? 676 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 6: First off, before I answer that, can we reminisce on 677 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 6: the time when literally I was talking to you after 678 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 6: we won the Super Bowl and do you remember that 679 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 6: I had to jump off the call because Obama was 680 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 6: calling on the other line. 681 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 8: Do you do you remember that we were in the 682 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 8: middle of the interview and I said, Colin, I am 683 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 8: so sorry. 684 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 6: I never thought I would say this, but can I 685 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 6: call you back because Obama is calling on the other 686 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 6: line to say congratulations. That was probably the first and 687 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 6: the only time that would ever happen. 688 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I remember it. 689 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: Well, So forget it left. Tell me about stretch Zone. 690 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, forget the Lincoln Tunnel there. 691 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 692 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 6: So so, Stretch Zone is the largest and fastest growing 693 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 6: practitioner ledge stretching brand in the country. It was something 694 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 6: that I utilized towards the end of my career really 695 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 6: to gain every advantage that I possibly could with my recovery, 696 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 6: with my flexibility with my mobility. 697 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 8: It made such a difference for me that when. 698 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 6: I got done playing, I actually sought out the owners 699 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 6: and the founders of the company. 700 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 8: To learn more about it. 701 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 6: And before I knew it, I was on the business side, 702 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 6: on the franchise or side as an investor and ambassador 703 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 6: in sitting on the board helping to grow and scale 704 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 6: the business. And I always knew that just from my 705 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 6: own personal experience and anecdotally that the practice lives. But 706 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 6: now we have the research and everything that we just 707 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 6: announced to back it up. It shows up to now 708 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 6: on our study showed increased energy, increased productivity, a higher 709 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 6: range of motion, less pain, better sleep, and just an 710 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 6: overall better quality of life. So the Stredul method applies 711 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 6: to anybody, whether your age thirteen, one hundred and thirteen, 712 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 6: whatever you're trying to accomplish, whether you're you know, we 713 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 6: can blow your high performance athlete, or just somebody who's 714 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 6: getting a little bit older who's lost the ability to move, 715 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 6: just trying to shape some strokes off your golf game. 716 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 8: There's something there for everybody. 717 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: Well, whether it's a former President Obama or the Lincoln Tunnel. 718 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: We're occasionally interrupted but Drew always offers great insight. It's 719 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: great seeing you, buddy as Owa's I appreciate it, and 720 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: a great way to close today's show. Stretch Zone Drew Brees, 721 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: who had such great answers on a variety of topics. 722 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: I absolutely love that Hall of Fame. Dan Fount at 723 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: the door story that is just his wife knew she's 724 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: setting it up. Come on, guys, come downstairs. You're being disrespectful. 725 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: All part of a plan to get Dan Fouts and 726 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: Drew Brees together for the gold Jacket moment. All right, 727 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: we're done today. Great stuff. Want to thank everybody who 728 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: stopped by, especially Drew. 729 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 8: It's the hurt