1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with the latest developments in a trade 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 3: war now between the US and China. At midnight, the 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: Trump administration imposed a ten percent tariff on all Chinese goods. 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: This morning, China is retaliating. Bloomberg's John Tucker joins us 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 3: with the latest. John, what is the response? 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 4: And Nathan? Beijing has imposed a fifteen percent tax on 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 4: some US energy imports and a ten percent fee in 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 4: American oil and agricultural equipment. It also put companies like 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 4: Calvin Klein owner PVH Corporation, and Illumina on a blacklist. 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 4: China also said it's going to investigate Google for alleged 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 4: to anti trust violations by targeting a handful of American 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 4: companies Nathan and Karen and slapping levies on some US goods. 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 4: This move does seem designed to avoid escalating tensions. The 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 4: tariffs are set to kick in February tenth, and this 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 4: potentially leaves room for negotiation and President Trump also did 19 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 4: signal a desire to speak with the Chinese leader Jijingping 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 4: before the tariffs take effect, so the reaction in the 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: market seems to be muted at this point. The Chinese currency, 22 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: the offshore you on little change this morning, in fact, 23 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 4: is up three tenths of per percent right now. And 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 4: then the Hangsang China Enterprises Index, this is of Chinese 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 4: stocks listed in Hong Kong that has rebounded. Initially, it 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: dove at the news of the US tariffs and the 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 4: Chinese countermeasures, and right now, in fact, it is up 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 4: three and a half percent. In New yorkome John Tuncker Bloomberg. 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: Radio, All right, John, thank you. All tariffs on China 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: are moving ahead. America's neighbors are getting a reprieve. President 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: Trump says he's delaying twenty five percent tariffs on Canada 32 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: and Mexico for a month. Those are due to kick 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: in just after midnight this morning. Bloomberg's Derek to Clodes 34 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: says Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made a number of 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: concessions on border enforcement. 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 5: Canada will appoint a fentanyl czar to monitor and crack 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 5: down on the trade of that drug, list the Mexican 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 5: cartels as terrorists, and ensure twenty four to seven eyes 39 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 5: on the border, which is part of that surveillance, which 40 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 5: will include drones and that sort of thing. 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's direct to Clode reports. Canada is also going ahead 42 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: with a nine hundred million dollar planet announced in December 43 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: to add more resources to the border security, including helicopters. 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 6: Thank Karin. 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: Mexico is also getting a thirty day delay on tariffs. 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: President Trump says he's gotten a similar border security agreement 47 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: from President Claudia Shanbaum. 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 7: They've agreed to put in ten thousand soldiers permanently like 49 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 7: forever ten thousand soldiers at their side of the border 50 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 7: and stop fentanyl and illegal aliens from coming into our country. 51 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: The President Trump's deal with Mexico similar to one from 52 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: the Biden administration. Mexico also agreed to send ten thousand 53 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 3: troops to its own southern border in twenty twenty one one. 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: President Trump says the US will negotiate now with both 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: Mexico and Canada over the next thirty days on a 56 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: more permanent economic deal. 57 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, We now turned to the latest developments in 58 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: the War overseas. President Trump wants an agreement with Ukraine 59 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: to access its critical mineral resources in exchange for US 60 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: aid and its defense against Russia. 61 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 8: We're telling Ukraine they have very valuable rare earth. We 62 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 8: want what we put up to go in terms of 63 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 8: a guarantee. We want a guarantee we want. We're handing 64 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 8: the money, handover fist. We're giving them equipment. European is 65 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 8: not keeping up with US. 66 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: Ukraine has significant reserves of uranium, titanium, lithium, and graphied 67 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: which could be worth trillions of dollars, and President Vladimir 68 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: Zelenski offered Western allies access to these resources as part 69 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: of his victory plan last year. 70 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: Well, meanwhile, Karen, President Trump is going to meet later 71 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: today with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Natanyahu in Washington. Bloomberg 72 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: Zamy Morris has a preview from the nation's capital. 73 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 9: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nettanna, who says being the first 74 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 9: world leader to visit the White House and meet with 75 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 9: the President since his inauguration sends a strong signal. 76 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 6: I think it's a testimony to the strength of the 77 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 6: Israeli American alliance. 78 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 9: The meeting comes as US and Arab mediators begin brokering 79 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 9: the next phase of a ceasefire agreement. Nataannahuo plans to 80 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 9: discuss with President Trump critical issues facing Israel and the region, 81 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 9: including victory over Hamas, achieving the release of the remaining 82 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 9: hostages in Gaza, and dealing with the Iranian access Amy 83 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 9: Morris Bloomberg Radio, All. 84 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: Right, Amy, thank you. By the President has signed an 85 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: executive action to create a sovereign wealth fund for the 86 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessend and Commerce Secretary nominee Howard 87 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: Lutnik will be spearheading the effort. Here's Bessend. 88 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 10: Within the next twelve months, we are going to monetize 89 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 10: the assets side of the US balance sheet for the 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 10: American people. Where are going to put the assets to work? 91 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 10: And I think it's going to be very exciting. We've 92 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 10: study best practices has done around the world. 93 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: And Treasury Secretary Scott Besson said the fund would be 94 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: created within the next twelve months and could be used 95 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: to facilitate the sale of TikTok. 96 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: Well, let's turn to markets now, Karen, as we watch 97 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: futures move lower once again this morning, this time on 98 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: the China US trade WARRIS and P futures are down 99 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: about two tenths of one percent. Stocks paired their losses 100 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: yesterday after the US agreed to delay tariffs on Canada 101 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: and Mexico. The SMP closed down three quarters of one percent, 102 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: after being nearly two percent lower earlier in the session. 103 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: Well one stock that's on the move this morning, Nathan 104 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: is Pallenteer. The shares are up more than eighteen percent. 105 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: The software company is out with the full year revenue 106 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 2: forecast that exceeded analyst estimates. Begin more with the Bloomberg's 107 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: Charlie Pellett. 108 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 11: CEO Alex Karp cites what he calls untamed organic growth 109 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 11: in demand for its artificial intelligence software. Derek John is 110 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 11: senior investment strategist at Crane Funds. 111 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 10: We see Patentier, host of Time Show, to become the 112 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 10: go to operating system for enterprises in the AGI world. 113 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 11: A reference to artificial general intelligence, best known for its 114 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 11: national security work and more recently its AI platform. Palenteer 115 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 11: stock searched three hundred and forty percent last year in 116 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 11: New York. Charlie Palette, Bloomberg Radio, Thanks Charlie. 117 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: Looking overseas, shares of UBS are down nearly six percent. 118 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: The bank beat earnings estimates, but concern persists over a 119 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: potentially substantial increase in capital requirements. In an interview with 120 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: Bloomberg CEO Sergio or Mighty Warren, markets may not fully 121 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: reflect the impact post by President Trump's tariffs. 122 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 12: I can see inflationary pressure coming out of tariff tariff war, 123 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 12: and that in turn would mean that central banks would 124 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 12: need to stop their easing path, potentially even reverse something 125 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 12: that is not priced in the market. 126 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 3: UBS CEO Sergio Ormudy also says the bank aims to 127 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: buy back up to three billion dollars of a its 128 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: own shares this. 129 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: Year and staying in Europe, Nathan shares a Diagio are 130 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: down about eight tens of a percent. The maker of 131 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: Johnny Walker, kennel I and Casamigos is scrapping its sales 132 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: target as it deals with sluggish growth and a possible 133 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: tariff battle in the US, its biggest market. About forty 134 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: five percent of Diagio's US sales are from products made 135 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: in Canada and Mexico. Time now for a look at 136 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: some of the other stories making news in New York 137 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: and around the world, and for that we're joined by 138 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Michael Maher. 139 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 6: Michael, good morning, Good morning, Karen, Democrats are upset about 140 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 6: the abrupt shutdown of the US Agency for International Development. 141 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 6: Republicans say they welcome to move. The independent federal agency 142 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 6: is approved and funded by Congress, but over the weekend 143 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 6: it was essentially shuttered by the Department of Government Efficiency 144 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 6: or DOGE, headed by billionaire Trump ally Elon Musk. Democratic 145 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 6: Senator Brian Chats of Hawaii called the move flatly illegal. 146 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: This is about, literally, do we uphold the rule of 147 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: law in the United States. 148 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 6: One of those employees was Christina Dry, a speech writer 149 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 6: for the agency. Dry says she was locked out of 150 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 6: her computer without notice. 151 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: Literally, you put an email fixed to yourself, you put 152 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: it download any of your work, and you couldn't. 153 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 13: Communicate people like me who had access to BOKES and 154 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 13: even get this email to not come in. 155 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: I heard about that through the grape vine. 156 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 6: Democrats are asking if Musk has the power to shut 157 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 6: an entire agency. Whye House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt responded. 158 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: I can confirm he's a special government and employee. I 159 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: can also confirm that he has abided by all applicable 160 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: federal laws. 161 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 6: It comes as news that DOGE now has access to 162 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 6: the Treasury Department's payment system. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, 163 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 6: visiting l Salvador, announced an offer from the country's president 164 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 6: to accept deportees from the US and jail violent American 165 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 6: criminal citizens now in prison in the US as well. 166 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 14: He has agreed to except for deportation any illegal alien 167 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 14: in the United States who is a criminal from any nationality, 168 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 14: be they MS thirteen or train that Agua, and house 169 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 14: them in his jails. 170 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 6: A US official said that Rubio spoke that the Trump 171 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 6: administration had no plans to try to deport American citizens, 172 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 6: but that the offer was significant. The US government cannot 173 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 6: deport American citizens. Finally, the son of billionaire New England 174 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 6: Patriots owner Robert Craft plans to run for mayor of Boston. 175 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 6: Josh Craft will formally announce his campaign later this morning. 176 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 6: Josh Craft will run against first term mayor Michelle wou. 177 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 6: He says his number one priority is to lower the 178 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 6: cost of housing. Global news twenty four hours a day, 179 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 6: whenever you want it with Bloomberg News Now. Why Michael 180 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 6: Barr and this is Bloomberg Karen. 181 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 182 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Sports update, brought to you by tri State out 183 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 2: Here's John stash Hour, John good morning, Good one up. 184 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 13: The Garden Knicks and the much improved Houston Rockets, who 185 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 13: threw three quarters at an eleven point lead. So in 186 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 13: the fourth, the Knicks look to their captain Brunson against 187 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 13: Thompson gets inside La off the hotness, the Brunson barrage 188 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 13: continuers shot. 189 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 11: Make it here on the fourth quarter. 190 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 13: Bronson has been the catalyst. 191 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 11: He's made all of bacousa a minute remaining, Brunson at 192 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 11: three damn tail. 193 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 13: Brunsen does it again. Tied up Rockets a MSJ. Knicks 194 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 13: won one twenty four to one eighteen. He scored forty 195 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 13: six points in the fourth and seven seen of those 196 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 13: by Brunson, who finished with forty two. He's third and 197 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 13: Knicks history with now eighteen games of forty or more. 198 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 13: He's only in this third season with the team. Mix 199 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 13: wat tonight in Toronto. Rockets go to Brooklyn, top two 200 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 13: in the East, meet tonight Boston at Cleveland. The Cavs 201 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 13: are forty and nine and West leading Oklahoma City with 202 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 13: a blowout went on Milwaukee. The Thunder now thirty nine 203 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 13: and nine at the Guard Tonight it's red hot Saint 204 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 13: John's riding in an eight game winning streak, looking to 205 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 13: remain unb at home and taking on Marquette, top two 206 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 13: teams in the Big East. Baseball has fired umpire Pat Hoberg, 207 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 13: who didn't work any games in twenty twenty four due 208 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 13: to an investigation that determined Hoburg shared a betting account 209 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 13: with a friend who bet on MLB games. Holburg said 210 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 13: he's embarrassed, but that he never bet on baseball himself. 211 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 13: He can apply for reinstatement next year. Chats and Eagles 212 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 13: in New Orleans, so some familiar faces for Super Bowl 213 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 13: opening night for Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelseats their fifth 214 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 13: Super Bowl in six years, but it's the first for 215 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 13: sa Kuon Barkley, who on Sunday will try to win 216 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 13: a Super Bowl on his twenty eight birthday. John Stasheware 217 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 13: Bloomberg Sports Karen. 218 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: Nathan Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 219 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 220 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 221 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager, and the opening shots have 222 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: been fired in a new trade war between the US 223 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 3: and China. After President Donald Trump slapped ten percent duties 224 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: on Chinese products just after midnight East Coast time. Beijing 225 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: has responded with levies of its own on US energy 226 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: and agriculture equipment, blacklist designations for a couple of American companies, 227 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: and an anti trust investigation into Google. For the very latest, 228 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 3: we're joined by Bloomberg News Global Trade editor Brendan Murray. Brendan, 229 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: good morning. What to make of this response from China? 230 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: Is it a full tit for tat against the ten 231 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: percent tariffs? 232 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 11: Good morning. 233 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 15: I think the way it was characterized is right. These 234 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 15: are opening salvos from both sides. A ten percent tariff 235 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 15: on Chinese imports into the US is not really going 236 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 15: to change the dial all that much in terms of 237 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 15: trade flows between the two countries. China's retaliation is viewed 238 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 15: as fairly measured. They launched an anti trust investigation into Google, 239 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 15: but Google search services have been unavailable there, so you know, 240 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 15: they kind of sort of a paper tiger response. But basically, 241 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 15: this is the dance that the that the two the 242 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 15: world's two largest economies, will do that will bring them 243 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 15: to the table. President Trump will meet with President She 244 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 15: undoubtedly in the weeks ahead, and they'll start working out 245 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 15: a deal. If they can't, then then we will see 246 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 15: a trade war. And you know, to ten percent tariffs 247 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 15: that that Trump has put on China could become sixty percent. 248 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 15: And an investigation, you know, this one that we saw 249 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 15: into into Google, you know, could could turn it turn 250 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 15: its crosshairs to a company like Tesla, which you know 251 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 15: has a big operation in China and obviously would make 252 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 15: much more of an impact in the White House than 253 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 15: this than this other investigation has. 254 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: Given what's being described as a muted response from China. 255 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: Could it have afforded to do more given the struggles 256 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: that we've seen of in the Chinese economy. 257 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 15: Not really, I mean this is this is this is 258 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 15: Beijing's way of saying, we're ready to deal with you, 259 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 15: and let's let's get to the table and start and 260 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 15: start negotiating that if they wanted to do you know, 261 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 15: much harm to the to the US economy, they would 262 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 15: have to come with a with a whole lot more 263 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 15: than what they did. That's not in their interest right now. 264 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 15: As as you suggested, their economy is is on is 265 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 15: on the back foot, and they need to. They need 266 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 15: to make sure that they maintain some sort of reasonable 267 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 15: relationship with the US economy right now rather than cut 268 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 15: it off completely. 269 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: Do we have a timeline on when Presidents Trump and 270 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: She could speak and what would the contours of a 271 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: deal between these two countries potentially look like. 272 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 15: Well, if if you take the previous deal, we don't 273 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 15: really know the timetable. Uh. The President Trump is supposed 274 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 15: to meet with a number of leaders in the in 275 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 15: weeks in the weeks ahead, uh, and President She will 276 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 15: certainly be one of those. The contours of any particular deal, 277 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 15: you'd have to look back to the blueprint, a blueprint 278 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 15: that we saw five years ago when Trump announced his 279 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 15: quote unquote Phase one agreement they could go back is 280 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 15: something like that where China agrees to, you know, purchase, 281 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 15: you know a certain amount of American exports, agriculture, energy, 282 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 15: those kinds of things. But you know, the President Trump 283 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 15: is transactional. He's going to want something in return for 284 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 15: keeping tariffs off of Chinese imports. 285 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: And speaking of that transactionality, in our last minute, Canada 286 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: and Mexico, we're supposed to get twenty five percent tariffs 287 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: after midnight. Now that's been delayed another month. What's that 288 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: say about the seriousness of the tariff threat from the President. 289 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 15: Well, it says that he's got, you know, he's got 290 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 15: he's playing his poker hand pretty carefully when it comes 291 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 15: to those two countries there were those are obviously more 292 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 15: and more allies than China would be that and we're 293 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 15: connected the US is through through you know, a free 294 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 15: trade agreement across the North America. So it says that 295 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 15: he walks away with you know, a pledge to for 296 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 15: the for both Canada and Mexico to titan border security, 297 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 15: to migration and the flow of drugs. But it essentially 298 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 15: kicks the can down the road. 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