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Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium. Gotta hurry, Yeah, this is the for us.

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Speaker 1: It's the Hey in the Barn day. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to wrap up our look ahead to the Washington Commanders,

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Speaker 1: whatever's remaining of that team after all their trading. And

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Speaker 1: you had a good question though in your round up today,

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Speaker 4: Like a couple of weeks ago, you got.

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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks of good It's pretty obvious that

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Speaker 7: Although I I I saw what's his face, Sweat saying

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Speaker 4: No, no green bananas for Ryan Poles.

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Speaker 7: What are you doing if you're Chicago though, logal like

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Speaker 7: you're you're just yeah, there's a lot of stuff going

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Speaker 1: There's an investigation going on and treatment of people from

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a matter of time before they get you.

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Speaker 1: Freddy.

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Speaker 3: I don't agree with the Chicago thing, the hysteria against

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Speaker 3: Sweat is not going to win them games single handedly.

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Speaker 4: As long as as long as you have Montest Sweat.

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Speaker 1: Let his agent know. Hey, by the way, you know,

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Speaker 4: So have the whole legal tampering period and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And absolutely agree with that, you know, Like you know

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with that? If you retain them as long

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes I would. I there's no argument if the

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Speaker 1: You know, that doesn't make a lot of sense. Whereas

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Speaker 4: Whereas if the Niners can't re sign Chase Young and

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Speaker 4: I mean they're taking a run like that's well worth it. Again,

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Speaker 7: I'm a Montes sweat, why would I sign with the Bears?

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Speaker 7: Like that's noventive to me to sign.

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Speaker 4: With unless you overpay, in which case just waite. So

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Speaker 4: free agency and you know, if you have the biggest offer,

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Speaker 1: All right, it's Duce, it's Evan, it's Paul, it's me,

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Speaker 5: She should I forgot to grab her.

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Speaker 4: Oh she'll come in, okay, dressed to the nines, you know, coming.

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Speaker 4: Oh it was today Thursday. She is, she is dominating,

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Speaker 5: That's great, dominant.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what else do we got? Patriots?

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Speaker 5: What Bill?

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Speaker 5: Bill Washington?

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Speaker 1: Now? I mean, yeah, that was something that was floral,

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Speaker 1: something you know. Actually, the only thing, the only thing

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Speaker 1: if you were going to do something and he went somewhere,

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Speaker 1: he'd have to want go to that place right, right,

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Speaker 1: that's close to Annapolis, right, Maybe that's that is something that.

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Speaker 3: Would I can I cannot come up with a single

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Speaker 3: Besides the owner house. It's besides the owner has.

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Speaker 1: Deep What about what about autim Yeah? What about a

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Speaker 1: boatload of money and full control.

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Speaker 4: Total power everything control everything here?

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Speaker 1: That stinks?

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Speaker 4: What he gets everything?

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Speaker 3: He wants full control over a roster that stinks.

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Speaker 1: But he's gonna make it.

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Speaker 3: At seventy two years old, he's in really good shape.

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Speaker 1: By the way, he might be in better shape than

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Speaker 4: Okay, but it's gonna go out on the limit, say

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Speaker 5: I don't know what are the what are the mechanics

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Speaker 5: Or could you just try?

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Speaker 4: Well, he has to go somewhere he wants to go.

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Speaker 4: But if he doesn't want to, if he doesn't want

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Speaker 1: But Bill has to want.

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Speaker 5: To go there right right, you know.

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Speaker 7: But I imagine that this is a very appealing scenario

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Speaker 5: I don't know, a couple of the first round pick

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Speaker 1: No, here here if you if you're Washington, that's your guy.

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Speaker 1: If the Patriots are demanding a first you give him

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Speaker 5: What is the scuttle? But I hadn't heard it.

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Speaker 4: I didn't heard that that's what will happen. Then if

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Speaker 3: They don't want him, then this is this is solely

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Speaker 4: But it's yes.

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Speaker 3: And I like the fact that like this, these things

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Speaker 1: We even talking about this? What's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: It's not Smike brought it up.

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Speaker 3: I know, so respec Florio like goes on a show

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Speaker 4: It's like, dude, it started with Tom cahen and Phil

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Speaker 1: Talk about it. I think it's basically right, So like

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Speaker 3: I think I don't think it's totally baseless that if

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Speaker 4: Like, what's the point he just stay yesterday?

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Speaker 4: He's too old? Fred? Like, how how old is he

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Speaker 3: I know the reason why you know to to Paul's

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Speaker 4: A different argument.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, they're not knocking down the door because

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Speaker 4: Fred, do you never hear any rumors or anything like

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Speaker 4: you didn't hear for two years Sean Payton, what potentially

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Speaker 4: he could get? No, I know, but he was under

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Speaker 4: But like these are the things that are being talked about,

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Speaker 5: Well, if you got to start from scratch with either

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Speaker 1: And we talk about it starting from scratch?

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Speaker 4: I mean one of them.

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Speaker 3: They've got about like you know, Matthew Judon's good.

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Speaker 3: The point is is that not only does he have

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Speaker 4: Like I think people like.

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Speaker 1: Don't put it into the Patriots too.

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Speaker 4: He did, but no, he did it.

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Speaker 1: But if you hear him second year they went to

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Speaker 4: But if you hear him talk about it.

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Speaker 1: But it took him a year to get that.

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Speaker 3: But when you hear him talk about it, he says

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Speaker 1: I'll bet you if I'll bet you, if you sat

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Speaker 4: Well, he's wrong, May I guess me?

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Speaker 3: Like, I'm not going to like, I don't you know

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Speaker 1: That was his choice, right because he because he thought

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Speaker 4: Because he completely cleared the decks, right.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just and that, so what if it takes

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Speaker 4: Five, Yes, friend, if you could guarantee that he's gonna

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Speaker 1: That's so, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean he thinks he's not going anywhere then, because he's like, unless.

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Speaker 4: It was right, I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think people are under selling

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Speaker 3: because what because Josh Harris is gonna pay him a

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Speaker 4: Now this is operating under the premise that's staying here

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Speaker 1: Right, So also, if I'm forgetting about a guy like Bill,

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Speaker 4: And I do think Washington is one of the few

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Speaker 4: he has here, right, I don't think a lot of

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Speaker 1: Like like, we don't know, but I can't imagine that

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Speaker 3: So let's play this out like I'd say, Bill is

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Speaker 3: that are fired. You're telling me that Washington is going

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Speaker 4: There's no way.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, Like I said, I was trying to come

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Speaker 7: You know, if I'm the owner of the of the Commanders,

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Speaker 1: Now Bill Parcells was a lot younger than Bill Belichick

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Speaker 5: It back on the map.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I agree with, you know, everything I've

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Speaker 3: You know, Like at my point, is better rosters to

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Speaker 4: Like I'm just glad we're not talking about it, you know.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean this type of stuff you could go

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Speaker 4: We probably are, But isn't it fun? I know, if

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Speaker 3: If there's if there's like openings around the league that

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Speaker 3: I get it that, you know, if Felger I think

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Speaker 4: So but there are some other factors involved in those twos.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there first of.

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Speaker 1: All, except for San Diego, all those other openings are

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Speaker 3: To Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, and they're not going to pay him, right,

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Speaker 4: But but what but what if this is my point,

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Speaker 3: Is there's there's one and it's they staring at everybody

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Speaker 4: He doesn't pay.

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Speaker 3: I think he would pay for Billy because that that's

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Speaker 3: in age, and if he wants the Super Bowl, then

444
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Speaker 3: you start to think about Bill is probably you know,

445
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Speaker 3: you give Bill an offense that has a quarterback and

446
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Speaker 3: every everything already set up on that side of the ball,

447
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,159
Speaker 3: and you give Bill Michaeh Parsons, and that team is

448
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 3: going to be really, really freaking good.

449
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Speaker 4: We listen, I think if you had the just the teams,

450
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,920
Speaker 4: obviously the Washington wouldn't be high in the list. But

451
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Speaker 4: I wasn't aware of this. And I heard and this

452
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Speaker 4: could be some Felger emasisms too. Maybe they're you know,

453
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Speaker 4: sort of taking a grain of truth and making it up.

454
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Speaker 4: But they claim like the only time they ever got

455
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Speaker 4: the coach was Parcels when they wanted to build a stadium,

456
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Speaker 4: they had, you know, he they needed a little bump.

457
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Speaker 4: But otherwise he's notoriously tight with his coaches and all

458
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Speaker 4: the other stuff around him.

459
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Speaker 1: And and and I would agree, and just look at

460
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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. How long it took Jerry Jones to finally get.

461
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Speaker 4: Rid of some of the other guys that coach that,

462
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Speaker 4: like the Dallas Cowboys, like Dave campbo was that was

463
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Speaker 4: that Switzer, you know, it wasn't Chane Gaily the coach

464
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 4: wants to He wants they've had some unimpressive girls. He

465
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Speaker 4: doesn't want a strong guy, including the guy they have now.

466
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Speaker 1: He wants a guy that he can manage and also not.

467
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Speaker 4: Pay like supposedly Mike McCarthy's like the third lowest paid coach.

468
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Speaker 1: In the Jerry wants to be the man. You know,

469
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Speaker 1: he's not gonna be the man of Bill Belichick's.

470
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Speaker 4: But I mean Evan's point about the rosters. Absolutely, I

471
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Speaker 4: would go to the Chargers. I'd go to the Cowboys. Yeah,

472
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Speaker 4: But like the ones that I think are gonna I

473
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Speaker 4: don't think that job's gonna be available the one, well,

474
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Speaker 4: I think it could be, but I don't think he's

475
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Speaker 4: gonna get what he wants there. I don't think Jerry

476
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Speaker 4: Jones is gonna let him bring you know, Patriots East,

477
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 4: you know, to uh to Dallas. I don't think that's

478
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Speaker 4: gonna happen, right, I mean kind of runs counter to

479
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Speaker 4: what he's done. Yep, you know Chicago, they don't pay either.

480
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 4: The Chargers Spanos very you know, very tight. These guys

481
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 4: are not going to give him twenty five million and

482
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Speaker 4: allow him to bring all his his family. But the

483
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Speaker 4: Giants possible, the giants available, Yeah, possible.

484
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

485
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Speaker 4: I just can't.

486
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Speaker 3: I can't wrap my head around Bill in Washington. It

487
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Speaker 3: just that roster is so far away and I I

488
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 3: don't see it.

489
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Speaker 4: That's all.

490
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Speaker 3: I just I'm sorry. Like I think the ages of

491
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Speaker 3: his age has to be a I.

492
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Speaker 4: Think the age is a factor too, absolutely. And that's

493
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Speaker 4: like my first shutdown of Felgert yesterday was that, like

494
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Speaker 4: he doesn't have time to do it there.

495
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if he has time to do

496
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Speaker 5: it here.

497
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Speaker 1: And when you say time, you're talking three or four years, right, Yeah,

498
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Speaker 1: I think he's got plenty of time.

499
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Speaker 4: I just don't understand how a guy who wants vowed

500
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Speaker 4: to never be like Mars Leveley and coach into his

501
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Speaker 4: seventies is now seventy six no problem.

502
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Speaker 1: And like I said, you know, at the time that

503
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Speaker 1: probably seemed reasonable, but then you get into.

504
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Speaker 4: The city in evidence would be on the other side

505
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Speaker 4: but look at him. He's Yeah, it's not as good

506
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Speaker 4: a coach as he was.

507
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Speaker 3: Correct look at the product.

508
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Speaker 4: Like, are you arguing that he's gone four years under

509
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Speaker 4: five hundred?

510
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Speaker 1: It's the GM part.

511
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Speaker 4: Oh, okay, must be great.

512
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Speaker 1: But anyway, I you know, maybe you know, like if

513
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Speaker 1: he does it the way he wants to do it,

514
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Speaker 1: maybe he brings out Matt Grow with him, or maybe

515
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Speaker 1: he hires.

516
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Speaker 3: You almost said al Grow for Washington.

517
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Speaker 1: I think.

518
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Speaker 4: I think you're right about it.

519
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Speaker 1: In other words, he since he has the keys, he

520
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Speaker 1: can structure the pro room anyway he wants so that

521
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Speaker 1: it's not as taxing physically.

522
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Speaker 4: On him, you know, like he can hire look like

523
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Speaker 4: the Patriots.

524
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Speaker 1: What do you mean?

525
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Speaker 3: I don't think he does as much as he used to.

526
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Speaker 4: Okay, And I don't know, and I don't. I just don't.

527
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Speaker 3: And I don't think that that's there's nothing wrong with that.

528
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Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with delegate.

529
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Speaker 1: But again you're you're assuming that everything else is okay

530
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Speaker 1: here and everything that we hear is that it's not.

531
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't think that the coaches is I

532
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 3: don't think he is doing what he did ten years ago.

533
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Speaker 1: Okay, But like even if he like, is he happy?

534
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Speaker 1: Is my point? Is he happy here?

535
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 4: We should ask I don't know, are you happy to

536
00:22:54,480 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 4: Somebody asked, would if I said, Billy, it's like Brady Brady, you.

537
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: Know, it's just it was just time. It was time.

538
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 5: You know, some of us were willing to say that.

539
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about in Brady's mind, not in my mind.

540
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about in terms of what Tom Brady thought.

541
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Speaker 4: You want to take a step back from that, take

542
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 4: you know, like that's the character you play, but then

543
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 4: you say stuff like that.

544
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Speaker 1: But in terms of what Brady I think Brady fell,

545
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: it's I just need to leave. I need a new place, right.

546
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Speaker 3: I just think that Brady, to his credit, put on

547
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 3: his GM cap for a second and saw the Bucks

548
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Speaker 3: had Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and a defense that

549
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Speaker 3: was kind of up and coming.

550
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Speaker 1: Other than the Cowboys and maybe the Chargers, the Chargers

551
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Speaker 1: is more likely. Very few teams that are firing the

552
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Speaker 1: coach have a stacked roster. Yeah, it's just not that's rare.

553
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 3: But some of them have quarterbacks. Yeah, and I think

554
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 3: it makes a big difference.

555
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Speaker 5: It's funny he still brought Kronk though, you know, well, guys.

556
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Speaker 3: I'm assuming mean that that dround might have been determined.

557
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Speaker 1: But as it stands right now, Washington's going to have

558
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: a very high pick, right sure, Yeah, you know, for

559
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: all we know the plans already later.

560
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Speaker 4: Than the Patriots.

561
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're picking eleventh right now, are they?

562
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 4: Yeah? But I mean, I mean, yeah, we're only halfway

563
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 4: through the season.

564
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Speaker 5: Yeah, not yet.

565
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Speaker 1: But they have two wins, right Washington, three oh three?

566
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: I thought they had two, one ahead of us.

567
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're about to have four.

568
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Speaker 9: I'm scared.

569
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Speaker 4: Wow, man, this guy is in a dark place today.

570
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Speaker 7: I thought, after two hours of Catch twenty two, you

571
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Speaker 7: work some issues. I thought that feel like Barth like

572
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 7: triggered you or.

573
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 5: Something like he usually does.

574
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Speaker 1: If we lose this game on Sunday, I'm out.

575
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Speaker 4: I mean, you're clip that Mark.

576
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Speaker 1: I'm only kidding.

577
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 4: They're they're bones for them to lose this game. I

578
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 4: was being like, like, facious, what's that word? Pieces? I

579
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 4: can't say that word. There's a lot of words. Yes,

580
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 4: I was facing.

581
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 3: I was half kidding is a better way to but

582
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: there's a lot of bones in this game that favor Washington, and.

583
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: I would let's talk about him, talk about it.

584
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: First of all, I guess the simplest one is that

585
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 3: Jonathan Allen and Deron Payne are going to go up

586
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 3: against Cold Strange.

587
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 4: And City Son.

588
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 5: We're finally playing them.

589
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 4: So that's gonna be fun.

590
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Speaker 1: You know.

591
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: Good luck stepping up in the pocket.

592
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Speaker 1: They're really good, very good. Okay, So the roster is

593
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: not as bad as you're saying it is.

594
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Speaker 4: They have two good players.

595
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 3: Terry mclaurin's not good. Okay, three Okay, Yeah, I'll bet

596
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: you if we went down we could find some. But

597
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Speaker 3: I think we could do the same thing with the

598
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Speaker 3: Patriots rost.

599
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: Okay, okay. But what I'm saying is that, going back

600
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Speaker 1: to our previous conversation, he wouldn't be stepping into the

601
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Speaker 1: train wreck that you're making it out to be.

602
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Speaker 4: I think you would. Well, the bottom line is they

603
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 4: don't have a quarterback.

604
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine.

605
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Speaker 4: So I get that it is a train wreck. Now,

606
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Speaker 4: I don't think that would be a train wreck that

607
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 4: he'd be unwilling to take part in because I think

608
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 4: he doesn't largely care about that spot.

609
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Speaker 5: Somehow, Sam Hel, that's my guy got him.

610
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the simplest thing is finding a way

611
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: to block those two guys with the two young guards

612
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: is going to be questionable.

613
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 5: Strange is that your cold strange? Is that what you're

614
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 5: trying to with young guards?

615
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 4: Maybe Mafi, I don't know.

616
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Speaker 3: I pick on cold strange a lot.

617
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 4: So does he get does he get benched outright?

618
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Speaker 10: This week?

619
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Speaker 4: I mean.

620
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Speaker 3: You talk about you know, guys that have really given

621
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Speaker 3: cold strange problems like a Quentin Williams, DeForest Buckner, the

622
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: strong Jonathan Allen, powerful guys, but it's not like guys

623
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Speaker 3: typically that are like great get off guys. It's these long, powerful,

624
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: heavy players that that's Jonathan Allen. So you know he's

625
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 3: going to have to deal with that. And offensively, I

626
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: think Eric the Enemy is really good and he runs

627
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 3: the system. He runs the read system, and the read

628
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: systems given them all kinds of trouble for a decade.

629
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Speaker 3: So you know, you look at Nick Foles in the

630
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl, you look at Alex Smith in that Week

631
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Speaker 3: one game scoring forty points on the defense. You look

632
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 3: at obviously what Patrick Mahomes did is different because he's

633
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. But they did it with lesser quarterbacks. They

634
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: did it in big stages and the Patriots defense has

635
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 3: trouble with that scheme.

636
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 4: The Patriots have had to blitz a lot to get pressure,

637
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: and that seems to be the only thing that's really

638
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 4: bothered that Washington offense is when there's a lot of pressure.

639
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 5: Now forty one.

640
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 4: I think that they've really adjusted because they threw the

641
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: ball fifty some odd times last week and only had

642
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 4: only got sacked once against an Eagles team that can

643
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 4: get pressure on the passer. They have good front seven personnel,

644
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 4: and I just wonder if maybe the enemy has said, Okay,

645
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 4: we can't do this, this, and this, because we won't

646
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: be able to do it, but we can adjust and

647
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: do it in a different way. And they put thirty

648
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 4: one on the board, you know against Philly. Now, some

649
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 4: of that I do think is division matchups, because clearly

650
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 4: there's something about Washington that bothers Philly. They beat them

651
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 4: last year, you know, to knock them out of the undefeated.

652
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 4: Both games this year were right, you know, there was

653
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 4: shootouts that went right down to the wire. So clearly

654
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 4: there's something about Washington that bothers Philly as a division team.

655
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: So I don't just go by what they did against.

656
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: The Eagles, right, But you just said the word shootout.

657
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think this Washington team can score.

658
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: If Washington has a good offensive day, you're going to

659
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 4: be in trouble without without Kendrick Bourn and Parker, and

660
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: now you're going to have to rely on the young guys.

661
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 4: Evan brought up the protection issues on the inside. Yeah,

662
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 4: it could be a long day. I don't know if

663
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Speaker 4: you're going to win this game thirty five thirty one.

664
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Speaker 7: I think it's like interceptions, you know, are you able

665
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 7: to force them into interceptions? Something Patriots defense hasn't gotten

666
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 7: a lot of.

667
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 5: This season, you know, And that's how the Patriots getting

668
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 5: the first That's it.

669
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: So back to your roundtable question. Yeah, you're on a

670
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: team like Washington and two of your best players get

671
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: traded away. How does that affect you as a remaining player?

672
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: Is it like, well, they're giving up in the season,

673
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: so should I or like, oh, here's my opportunity to shine?

674
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 4: Well, depends on who you are, Like if you're one

675
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 4: of the young guys that's playing on the end. Now,

676
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: what's the guy that Bill keeps talking about with the

677
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 4: hyphenated name William Smith? William Smith? You know this is

678
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 4: a big these these are big opportunities for those guys

679
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 4: right now if you're.

680
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: What about like you're in the secondary and it's like, oh,

681
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: they're trading away.

682
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: Like Kendall Fuller is a veteran, and you know there's

683
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: other guys that are young in the secondary too. They're

684
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: trying to figure it out and they've been really bad,

685
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: so they got to figure out how to play. Yeah,

686
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 4: but like bench, you know, maybe some of those like

687
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 4: Terry McLaurin type guys look at it like you're saying Fred,

688
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 4: you know, like what are we playing for you?

689
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 9: Right?

690
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: That's that's the overarching theme of this game is he

691
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: wants to like he cares about winning on Sunday, wants.

692
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 7: And that's why it's like I feel like the almost

693
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 7: want to call them the R word. The commanders have

694
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 7: just like this like fast and loose. We don't really

695
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 7: give a flying f about like how we're gonna play.

696
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 7: We're just gonna bombs away, we get killed like whatever,

697
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 7: Like they're just gonna come in here.

698
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: Was afraid to say Redskins, but he had.

699
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: No problem with the fly on f Yeah, and R

700
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: word makes it sound so much, but no, that that's

701
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: my fear of this to Mike, is that you know,

702
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: they drop back to pass more teams more than any

703
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: team Like screw it, yea, they just they're they pass

704
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: on first down more more than just about any team

705
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: in the league. They run their offense like they're the

706
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs. Now they don't have that challenge. They

707
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: don't have Patrick Mahomes, so that's why they are where

708
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 3: they are. But in terms of they don't, bay Adamy's

709
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: not holding back the offense because he doesn't have Patrick Mahomes,

710
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: go for it.

711
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 7: He's just it feels like a Jack Jones game or

712
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 7: he's like, let's do this, Like they're just like it's

713
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 7: his kind of game where there's just gonna be boss

714
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 7: flying all over the place and he'll get some and

715
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 7: he'll get beat.

716
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 5: Probably the same with J. C. Jackson.

717
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 7: You know, it's like, I don't know, That's what I'm feeling,

718
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 7: Like this is just gonna be one of those kind

719
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 7: of crazy games where especially the commanders, it's hard to watch.

720
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 7: What you know, he's willing to stand in there and

721
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 7: get drilled to put the ball down the field and

722
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 7: can they work out the back end communication issues that

723
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 7: we talked about from last week you know, giving up

724
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 7: big plays. Miami's one thing, though this is this is

725
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 7: something else.

726
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 5: But still yeah, yeah, I don't know.

727
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a very tough game for

728
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: the Patriots for sure.

729
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, especially like a Bentley.

730
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean, like I think at home, you know, you know,

731
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: I know home hasn't been a big advantage of late.

732
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: But they should win this game.

733
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 5: They should, they should, But I really have no idea

734
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 5: if they will or so.

735
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: And I'm not This is not snarky, Paul, I promise

736
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: you it's not based on what are we saying that

737
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 4: they should win it because I don't think their talent

738
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 4: is better than the other teams.

739
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: Because Evan says it's a it's a train run, it's

740
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: a terrible team.

741
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: I know, But did you ask him what he thought

742
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: of the Patriots in the first eight games?

743
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 5: Well, Belichick's here, you know, I like it's it just

744
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 5: comes out of simple stuff for me. And it's not

745
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: even like actual.

746
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 4: I'm not telling you the pictures can't win match.

747
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't.

748
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 4: I don't really understand the should part of it, like,

749
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: like you have so much more talent than Washington, This

750
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: should this should be a win. Yeah, as long as

751
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 4: you show up, you're right.

752
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 5: Like it's a different I don't see that. No, it's

753
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 5: a different I feel.

754
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 7: I mean, and that's I feel leaning should like fifty

755
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 7: one to forty nine, Like should, I mean it.

756
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: Opens one game. I think it's moved out to three.

757
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: With the trades and stuff and the things that have

758
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: happened during the coast of the week, this game is

759
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 4: considered to be pretty even.

760
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 5: It's a two win team versus a three win team.

761
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 5: The two win team is at home, and it's like

762
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 5: they probably should win. But I mean it could go

763
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 5: either way.

764
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 4: I mean, if I have to make a pick, I'm

765
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: picking the I am picking the Patriots. I mean, don't

766
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: give away the suspense for the later in the show.

767
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 5: But but it's not like it's not the same juggernaut. Juggernaut.

768
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 5: Patriots are playing some crappy They should win this one.

769
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: Like if they were playing the Raiders this week, I

770
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 4: know they played them a couple of weeks ago. This week,

771
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 4: with everything that's going on, I would say, yeah, that's

772
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 4: a they should they should win this one. Like I

773
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: don't really like I think Washington has some things that

774
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: could cause problems. Yeah, I do.

775
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: Too, And I just I look at the way that

776
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: the Commanders play on offense is just the total opposite

777
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: of how the Patriots play on offense, and that they

778
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: just don't, like Mike said, they just don't give an

779
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: f so like if he said, if he gets sacked

780
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: or he turns the ball over, like, so be it,

781
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 3: but we're gonna go down swinging. And the Patriots play

782
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: this conservative, you know, approach on offense and not basically

783
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: don't screw up offense is what they try to do.

784
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: And that doesn't really lend itself too well to a

785
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: team that's willing to throw the ball as much as

786
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: Washington is, and you know, he's the way to beat

787
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: the Commanders is obviously to rattle Sam Howell.

788
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 4: I mean, he's not very good.

789
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: Like if he's been sacked forty one times this year,

790
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: that's thirteen more sacks than any other quarterback in the league.

791
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: And how Patriots Bennet gets not very good quarterbacks pretty good.

792
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: Well, that's the question, like I guess, is like do

793
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: they that do they still have that feather in their

794
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: cap that against a quarterback that you can get to

795
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: hold the football, that you can get to turn over

796
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: the ball, Like, can they still rattle a bad quarterback?

797
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 5: I just feel like he might be un rattleable because

798
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 5: he's like he's taking so many secks.

799
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 7: He just seems like I don't want to say he's

800
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 7: dumb person like I just but it's like he's just

801
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 7: just like, I don't know, we got likely twelve times

802
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 7: in the game, I'll just keep throwing it. Like that

803
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 7: seems like their philosophy, like I don't know if he

804
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 7: get is rattleable, Like he's gotten killed and he.

805
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 5: Just continues to stand in there and do the same stuff.

806
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: Well, but he throws interceptions, yeah, right.

807
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: Eight but not like like this whole like I don't

808
00:33:59,160 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 4: I don't really get it.

809
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 5: He's played a couple of downfield dimes too this year

810
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 5: that you're like, yeah.

811
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: Well, how many games has he started?

812
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 5: All of them?

813
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: Oh? I thought the other guy.

814
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: Now he takes a lot of sacks.

815
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 4: Thirteen touchdowns, eight interceptions, I mean takes a ton of sacks.

816
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: That's that's really yeah, I mean forty one sacks is

817
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: what it is. But he's completing sixty seven percent of

818
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 4: his passage. He's thrown for almost twenty and fifty yards.

819
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: I mean, this is not a stiff now. I don't know,

820
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: maybe they just are behind every game and they throw

821
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 4: and he gets a lot of plastic stats. That's you know,

822
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 4: in other words, he's Gardner Minshew, right, Like you look

823
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 4: up at the end of the day. You look up

824
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 4: at the end of the day and he's thrown for

825
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 4: like two eighty five and three touchdowns and a pick,

826
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 4: and you know, they lost thirty eight twenty seven. And

827
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 4: it looks like he had a good day, but he

828
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: really didn't because most of the damage he did. It's

829
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: like mac Jones has done this year fourth quarter two

830
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 4: school games. Well when it becomes you know, infinitely easier.

831
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 4: But that's what he did against Phil. The numbers here,

832
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 4: like mac Jones's numbers don't even come close too, you know,

833
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 4: and they've both thrown eight interceptions, but you know, Sam

834
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 4: Howells throwing the ball forty eight more times than mac Jones.

835
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean that's almost the whole game.

836
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's not like the Patriots have been winning

837
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 4: every game so they don't have to throw. They've been

838
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: down by two scores every game except.

839
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 3: For win, you know, so they they were you know,

840
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 3: he's like second or third in the league in attempts.

841
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: But because he's been sacked so many times, he's first

842
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: in the league in dropbacks, right right, So nobody drop

843
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: backs more of the past than Sam Howell, like imagine

844
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: sayings and number two I think is Patrick Mahomes, Like,

845
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: so this is the that's the offense.

846
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 4: If you do what Mike said and he's going to

847
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 4: throw you know, they throw the ball so much and

848
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 4: they just throw caution to the wind and maybe j

849
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 4: C or Jack Jones or you know, Dogger comes up

850
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: with a pick or maybe even a pick six, then

851
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: you could get your You should win. You know, you're

852
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 4: gonna get a comfortable win by the key to the

853
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: game if it's one of those games where they don't

854
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 4: turn it over. I don't know, like I don't know

855
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 4: how good I feel about.

856
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 5: To be two keys to the game. I might have

857
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 5: to make that my key. I might have to think

858
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 5: there it is there it is. Yeah, thinking about you, Key.

859
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: I really like you know this offense and it's like

860
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: what a lot and what they do schematically too. And

861
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: we talked about this a little bit on a very

862
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: end of Catch twenty two about been of me and

863
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: like him as a head coach, you know, down the line,

864
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 3: and I definitely think that he's had Sam. I mean,

865
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: like Paul just read out the numbers like he's a float.

866
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: Like it's not he's not lighting up the world, but

867
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 3: like he's not completely bombing either. And I don't know

868
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: if Sam Howell is necessarily very good quarterbacks.

869
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 4: I don't either, But that's why I said, like it

870
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 4: could just be plastic numbers. And I've seen that happen

871
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: many many times. And all of a sudden, you see

872
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 4: a guy play and you're like, oh, that's what he does,

873
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: you know, And you're.

874
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 1: Like, he doesn't.

875
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: He doesn't turn Like it's not about turnovers necessarily with him.

876
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: What I see like he holds the ball forever, right,

877
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: That's why he takes so many sacks, And when you

878
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: move them off his spot, his accuracy just goes down

879
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: the wayside. So even when he gets the ball out,

880
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: if you can get him to have to reset in

881
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: the pocket, it's weird because like he does reset, but

882
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: it still the ball just sprays.

883
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: All over the place.

884
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: Even anyway, there's like a couple of plays from that

885
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: Eagles game where guys are wide open down the field

886
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: and he has to reset in the pocket. And they're

887
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: like picking up grounders off the you know, off the turf,

888
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: and you're you're like he's but he's wide open guy,

889
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: like you know, just just you know, lob the ball

890
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 3: to him. Yeah, his accuracy it can be really sporadic,

891
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: especially under press.

892
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 5: That's scary.

893
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 7: I feel like we're hitting on like everything I've kind

894
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 7: of felt about this game this week is it's it's

895
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 7: a scary matchup.

896
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 5: You know, they have, they got some guys can make

897
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 5: some plays.

898
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 3: That's because the Patriots are not absolutely game.

899
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 4: That's the fear should be gone because what do you

900
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: mean I've got to win three and six.

901
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: But you also just like don't want to get embarrassed

902
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: at home by the command Like even if you lose

903
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: the game and it's you know.

904
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 7: Just like one of the was like this is one

905
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 7: of those teams like you can't lose to the Commanders,

906
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 7: like right, you know, like even if they're pretty good,

907
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 7: like they just has that they have. They're one of

908
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 7: those teams that has that like bad team stink on them.

909
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, like Washington. Yeah, but they're okay, they're okay, kind

910
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 4: of like the Raiders.

911
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: So not a bad situation for a head coach to

912
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: walk into. Oh god, Sam how all right? Eight five

913
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: five Pats five hundred is the ace sticking hotline web

914
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot Com And it's email.

915
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: To Fred, do it to somebody else for a James.

916
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 4: It's refreshing half hour for me.

917
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: I guess to keep the enemy then maybe in business.

918
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 7: I loved the enemy when he's in college at Colorado,

919
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 7: he was one of my I don't know, I always remember.

920
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 4: Sleeping with the enemy.

921
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, just ran like a terror, you know.

922
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 4: I did like him.

923
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 5: I always had like the Pats with like the half shirt.

924
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: I like those Colorado teams. They always were like kind

925
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 4: of on the edge.

926
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 5: It's like Cordell Stewart time right the same time, right.

927
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: I can't really give him too much credit for the

928
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 3: design of the offense because it's it's Andy Reid's playbook, right,

929
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: Like he's just running the Chiefs offense. But he's a

930
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: good play Do you think he's a head coach sideration?

931
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 5: And we talk a lot about like Hayle in New.

932
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 4: England next year, if Bill goes to Washington, I don't

933
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 4: know who said that he should.

934
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 5: Be one of those offensive coordinator guys that.

935
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: You know, The only thing about it is he's been

936
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: interviewed so many times off this was a.

937
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 7: Good move for him to I think, you know, to

938
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 7: get out from underneath Andy Reid and to run his

939
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 7: own offense. And you know, I mean it's it's I mean,

940
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 7: for all the issues we've talked about, it's you know, look,

941
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 7: they don't have the best quarterback, but they're producing.

942
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 5: You know, they're producing more points than they producing.

943
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: I mean, they have they have good they have decent receivers. Yeah,

944
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: Like you know, Terry mclaurin's a good receiver. I think

945
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 3: Dotson is Okay, Okay, I didn't really love Dotson coming out,

946
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, but I think that he's

947
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: all right. And uh, you know Tamara's guy, Logan Thomas

948
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: is like, you know, kind of sneaky, giant red zone guy.

949
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: So they have you know, McLaren has forty two, Samuel

950
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 4: has thirty five, and Dotson has thirty you know, like

951
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 4: that's three receivers like the Patriots have one guy. Yep,

952
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 4: that's over twenty five and he towards a cl right, oh.

953
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's get to the because we've

954
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: got a hurry today. Is pick stay. And by the way,

955
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: somebody bought us lunch today, Pete Ottawa.

956
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 4: Thanks Pete.

957
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: Oh he's done that before.

958
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 4: That's nice.

959
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: And he had a comment that I want to read

960
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: because you buy lunch, you get whatever you have to say.

961
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: You say it. Yesterday he says, Mike brought up the

962
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: drafting classes the drafting is enough of a reason to

963
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: let Bill go at the end of the season. Brady

964
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: hid the flaws of the drafting for years. Just my thoughts.

965
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: So I know that's shared by many people.

966
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 3: I said this on Catch twenty two, So sorry if

967
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: it's repetitive, but like I don't like that. I don't

968
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: like that that I feel like it does it like

969
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: does a disservice for the other players that were on

970
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: the teams with Brady. Yeah, Like so they they they

971
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: he covered up things for years, Like if you want

972
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: to say he covered up things in like eighteen and

973
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: they won the Super Bowl with a roster that maybe

974
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: wasn't as loaded as it has in the past. Like

975
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: I guess I could hear that argument, like go look

976
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 3: at the twenty sixteen in twenty fourteen Patriots rosters, you know,

977
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball, like they were so

978
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: loaded on defense that some of the guys that ended

979
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: up being on contributors on the sixteen team couldn't even

980
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 3: get on the field for the fourteen team because they

981
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: had too many guys in front of them. So, I

982
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 3: don't know, I just feel like it's not to discount Brady.

983
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: I just think that you're discounting the guys that played

984
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 3: with him when you're saying that, like you're telling me

985
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 3: that Brady covered up like Devin mccordy and Dante high

986
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: Tower being on his defense for half a decade, Like, okay,

987
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: I guess.

988
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 4: He had to cover up those two guys.

989
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: Fair points. Those were Bill Belichick draft.

990
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 5: Now it's it. I mean, it's meant more as a

991
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 5: shot at Bill. I think that's what you know. People

992
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 5: just that's that's where they live, Brady or Bill. I

993
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 5: just feel like the defense that's not really part of

994
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 5: the conversation.

995
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: Like Evan said, they're they're not giving credit to those

996
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: players who were on those rosters.

997
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I am at what those guys think about.

998
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 7: When people were like it was all Brady, it was

999
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 7: all Brady.

1000
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 5: We know it now it was all Brady, you know,

1001
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 5: And it's like yes, but you know, I mean, of

1002
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 5: course it's a team.

1003
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: The big picture might have been all Brady, right, like

1004
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: Brady might have been the engine of the entire thing

1005
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: and not Bill and that that I think has been

1006
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: been told. That story has been told. But you know,

1007
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: their rosters when they won super Bowls were mostly incredible

1008
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: from top to bat.

1009
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: At fourteen, they brought in Revis.

1010
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: Yes, they brought in that long brand Brandon Browner.

1011
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, they you know, missed more games than he played,

1012
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 4: but that's but when he played, he made a difference.

1013
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 5: Just that one year, right, that was at one point.

1014
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's about it. Kind of the biggest play

1015
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: in the season.

1016
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 5: He had a big hit in San Diego. That was

1017
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 5: that he lit some guy up and got called for tea.

1018
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 4: I mean, what what, I'll set that one out. What

1019
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 4: I just think that you you can cherry pick a

1020
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 4: team that was really stacked and you ignore like two

1021
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: thousand and six where he drags a corpse of a

1022
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 4: team to the Afcchampionship game. You know, twenty eighteen, he

1023
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 4: drags a corpse of a team to a Super Bowl.

1024
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: You know, even sixteen they had down twenty eight to three,

1025
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 4: like nobody else does that. Nobody else wins that, and

1026
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: no one's disagreeing with that point. It was Brady, it

1027
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 4: was okay, I mean they have good players with them,

1028
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 4: but so these other players don't deserve any credit. No,

1029
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 4: I didn't say they don't deserve any but the guy's

1030
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 4: larger point, Pete. I kind of agree with Pete. I

1031
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 4: think since like that was twenty twelve, that that you

1032
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 4: got high tower in that crew. So since then, there's

1033
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 4: been a lot of misses in the draft, and it

1034
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: didn't really affect him because Brady was here and he

1035
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: overcame it. I mean twenty fourteen, like the top wide

1036
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 4: receiver was what Edelman in, Brandon LaFell, Quinn, Brady Propkowski,

1037
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 4: he was yeah, and he was great.

1038
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1039
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 4: And there's a handful of great players, there's no question

1040
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 4: about it. Not that many though. Okay, So everybody wants

1041
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 4: to complain and say that they don't have a lot

1042
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 4: of Hall of Fame player.

1043
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: Well, how many great players does each team have?

1044
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: I mean that's just more than Brady.

1045
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: So in twenty fourteen, all right, the team that won

1046
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl in twenty.

1047
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 4: Fourteen, again, will cherry pick the one team? Okay, you

1048
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 4: cherry picked the two thousand. I just rattled off about five, five, sixteen, fourteen, seven, three,

1049
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 4: it's amazing, right three though three was not a loaded team.

1050
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: It was not defensively oh four was Tyron Pulls stunk

1051
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: one guy Otis.

1052
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: Smith like that they had. Like I just I'm telling you,

1053
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 4: I just think the longer he is away, the more

1054
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 4: disrespect that gets attached to him, like Brady, Yeah, because

1055
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 4: because it's like somehow makes.

1056
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: People feel that it's the opposite pot.

1057
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 4: Somehow people feel bad that they won six, but we

1058
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 4: don't get the amount of credit that we should because

1059
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 4: Brady gets the credit and like you get no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1060
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:53,479
Speaker 4: no total.

1061
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: I think it just I think the longer away Brady

1062
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: gets more credit. That's and that's the point is at

1063
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: what point do you lose sight of the fact that

1064
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: he had good players on his teams too, Like they

1065
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: weren't a bunch of stiffs.

1066
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying. I'm saying I would say that

1067
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: that's true like in one, three, and four, Like he

1068
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 4: wasn't the guy who carried the team to a title, no.

1069
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: No, but he could that he can still be the

1070
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: guy who carried all of those teams. But like to

1071
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: say that he covered up all these warts he had.

1072
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: I think it's largely true.

1073
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: He had some good players.

1074
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 4: I agree with Pete. Pete, I'm with you, and I

1075
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 4: appreciate you buying lunch today.

1076
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody is discrediting Brady. I I mean Brady,

1077
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: Like I just said, it's the engine that put it

1078
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: all together. And there are definitely years where he carried

1079
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: teams that shouldn't have one.

1080
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: When any of those rosters have won super Bowls without Brady,

1081
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: probably not, you need, they needed a great quarterback.

1082
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 4: Many words in there, you know, but like probably they

1083
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 4: had some necessary They had good.

1084
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: Players on those teams.

1085
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: You know, good coaches too.

1086
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think there's just ebbs and

1087
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 5: flows too.

1088
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 7: If you're gonna play for twenty years, not every year,

1089
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 7: you're gonna you know, you're gonna have injury. They're gonna have,

1090
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 7: you know, years where personnel moves just don't work out.

1091
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 7: And I think he was able to keep the ship steady.

1092
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: And you know six is a good example.

1093
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, and you know, to Paul's point, some

1094
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 7: of that self inflicted, you know, some of that stuff

1095
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 7: where you know, just signed fricking Dion Branch, you probably

1096
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Speaker 7: would have had another super Bowl. And I mean I

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00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 7: think that was, you know, as much as Lawyer Malloy

1098
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Speaker 7: was was kind of a shot across the bow of this,

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Speaker 7: you know, how things were going to go here. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I think Branch was really like the really like, you know,

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00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 7: that's Brady's guy. I mean, he's just coming, you know,

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Speaker 7: two years he's the super Bowl MVP. The guy had

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Speaker 7: like twenty catches in the last two Super Bowls. You know,

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Speaker 7: I think that was a little bit more of a

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00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 7: harbinger of you know, some of the decisions they would

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00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 7: make that that ultimately kind of cost them.

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Speaker 5: I think in some areas, I.

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Speaker 3: Just think there's a difference between like, they won super

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00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: Bowls and they were great because of Brady. And I

1110
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: don't think anybody denies that point to this point anymore.

1111
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: But I just think that I I still want to

1112
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 3: give credit to some of the other players on the team,

1113
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: and I think when we just say it's all Brady,

1114
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: it was one hundred percent Brady, you're just not giving

1115
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: credit to a lot of guys that played a lot

1116
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 3: of really really good football, and you're.

1117
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: Not giving credit for Bill for constructing those teams.

1118
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 3: I give him less credit. Okay, I give the players more.

1119
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: Well, but that but body had to bring him in here.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, your your point is fair. I just

1121
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: you know, I I you know.

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Speaker 3: I think the whole point is is that the players

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00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 3: drove this more than maybe we realized.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, eight five five pats, five hundred. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Eddie and La. What's up Eddie?

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Speaker 7: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Guys?

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Speaker 8: I love the show.

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00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 11: I want to ask you guys about the wide receiver rooms.

1130
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 8: So we lost KB.

1131
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 11: I want to know who you guys think can step

1132
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 11: up and maybe give us like a glimpse of.

1133
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 12: Hope for the future.

1134
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 11: And I will exclude Tomorrow Douglas just because obviously he's

1135
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 11: the one that's kind of breaking out right now. But

1136
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 11: lost you guys think can have a better season? And

1137
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 11: one more question, obviously, well, Levis had a kind of

1138
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 11: a crazy game.

1139
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 8: Last week, and I'm not like hyped up about it,

1140
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 8: but if.

1141
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 11: He has a good, not great season, just a good one,

1142
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 11: do you guys count it as a miss on the

1143
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 11: scouting department. That's all I got for you, guys.

1144
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 8: Love to show him by Thanks.

1145
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 5: Where did he go? Exactly?

1146
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: I don't know. Second second, I personally don't. I don't

1147
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 4: think they were in line for a quarterback in the

1148
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 4: first round last year, do you know, No, No, I

1149
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 4: mean should have been. Do you think they should have

1150
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 4: been looking for a quarterback?

1151
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 5: I would not not where he went, and you know,

1152
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 5: not a consideration if you think.

1153
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: The second round, like the second thing, I wouldn't have

1154
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 4: taken him there. I mean, like if he was available,

1155
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 4: like in the middle rounds and you just like that

1156
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 4: whole drafting quarterbacks is good business.

1157
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 1: Kind of a lot of teams missed.

1158
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 4: Fine, yeah, probably, I don't think the Patriots should have

1159
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: been in the market for a quarterback overall first time,

1160
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 4: you know.

1161
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 7: But the first question, yeah, which was again kind of

1162
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 7: a roundtable question. I don't like saying this, and I'm sorry,

1163
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 7: but I think you got to give you to a shot, like,

1164
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 7: you know, if he's healthy and and and he can go,

1165
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 7: I mean he kind of does. He's supposed to be

1166
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 7: able to do what Boorne kind of does with a

1167
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 7: little bit, with the most experience he's got.

1168
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Speaker 5: Experience you paid him.

1169
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Speaker 7: Like at some point, you know, I feel like they

1170
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 7: just have to say, look, we have to really put

1171
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 7: you out there and and and give you a.

1172
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Speaker 5: High volume of work.

1173
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Speaker 7: And it's I mean, everybody out there screaming at their

1174
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 7: radio right now saying.

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Speaker 5: It's to be kijon Booty, it's got to be Taekwon Thornton.

1176
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Speaker 7: And I, you know, I kind of agree, but just

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Speaker 7: from an organizational standpoint with what you've given this guy

1178
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 7: and what the expectations are, and you really need him

1179
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 7: right now to step up, and so I just I

1180
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 7: feel like you put it on him and say, can

1181
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 7: you do it?

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Speaker 1: Booty? Eh? But I Taekwon, I for the same reason.

1183
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Speaker 1: I'm we drafted you in the second round and I'm sorry,

1184
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 1: but you need to start producing.

1185
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Speaker 7: And I think that, yeah, yeah, I mean for Parker's absence.

1186
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Speaker 7: I think that that that Thornton makes a lot of sense.

1187
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 7: And same kind of thing, like throw him out there,

1188
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 7: let him play on the outside, you know, keep pop

1189
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 7: out there and then know make it. It's going to

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Speaker 7: be Thornton and Juju. Maybe that's the primary kind of two.

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Speaker 1: And you know, by the way, can we have time

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Speaker 1: Montgomery get out.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what he's like, I don't know what

1194
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Speaker 5: he does.

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Speaker 7: I don't know why he's here, Like they don't use

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00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 7: him for anything, Like he returns kicks and covers kicks.

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Speaker 1: He watches the ball sail over his head on kickoffs.

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Speaker 5: You know, I just I mean, and everyone makes fun

1199
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Speaker 5: of us, but you know, every practice we watched he

1200
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Speaker 5: seems like kind of can play. And then we've gott

1201
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 5: into the season and he's just like.

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Speaker 4: The way it looks when he's on the fold.

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Speaker 5: Damn in games, all of a sudden, it's like, no,

1204
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Speaker 5: this is the time Montgomery of j.

1205
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Speaker 4: Was picked once and almost picked the other.

1206
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Speaker 5: It just happened to bounce into his hands.

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Speaker 3: Maybe play my running back not receiver, right, I would

1208
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Speaker 3: I would say that for Parker it's obviously Taekwon, and

1209
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Speaker 3: for you know, for Bourn it's obviously Booty. Like those

1210
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 3: are the that's they're different types of players. So I

1211
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Speaker 3: don't know, I'm interested to see Booty if they let

1212
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Speaker 3: him play. I'm still not sol they're going to let

1213
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Speaker 3: him play. If they let him play, him playing in

1214
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 3: born spot is definitely more his now position and playing

1215
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 3: on the boundary like he did in week one, So

1216
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: maybe that maybe he does show us a little something

1217
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 3: something if he's actually playing the role he should be playing.

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Speaker 4: He's not an X.

1219
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 5: What do you think they're gonna do with Juju?

1220
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 9: Then?

1221
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 4: Do you think they just left him?

1222
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1223
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: I mean, like I just I don't see what Juju's

1224
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: purpose is beyond this year, And like, I think you

1225
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 3: have to get some answers about some of these younger receivers.

1226
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 4: That's kind of how I answered it. Yeah, thinking in

1227
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 4: those terms, I think I know what Parker is. I

1228
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 4: think I know what Juju is. You know, I was looking,

1229
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: what are these young guys that we haven't seen at all?

1230
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: Do you think what might what might.

1231
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 4: They be able to think?

1232
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: It builds hard of hearts. He believes that the season

1233
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: can be turned around.

1234
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 3: Yes, yep, that's I think a big problem.

1235
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1236
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 3: I think he believes that they could win like eight

1237
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 3: straight games and be right back in it.

1238
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1239
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 5: I mean I kind of agree with I think that's

1240
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 5: in the back of his head.

1241
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 7: And I still think he just kind of continued to

1242
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 7: agree sometimes to approach things like he always has, which

1243
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 7: in a way I kind of, you know, admire, but

1244
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 7: it's just Washington. We're focused on short term and you know,

1245
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 7: and and I think what he doesn't probably like concretely

1246
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 7: think about like, well and if we win one, we

1247
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 7: can it's it's we have to win one game.

1248
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 5: And then I know that we can start saying.

1249
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: It was an innocent comment, but it really stood out

1250
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: to me when he was talking about Washington, and you know,

1251
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: they want to see what their young guys can do.

1252
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, he acknowledges that that is a way to

1253
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: approach a game, like there's no other way than to

1254
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: play and they got three. He acknowledges that that's a

1255
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: mindset that you could have.

1256
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 4: I agree. I don't read much into it, though. I

1257
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 4: think that's a I think that's Bill's m O when

1258
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 4: he's talking up the other team, Like, don't think just

1259
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 4: because they traded away their two best players that means

1260
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 4: they're going to mail it in. They're coming at us

1261
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 4: with young guys. They want to see what those young

1262
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 4: guys can do. That's his version of two thousand and four.

1263
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 4: Cleveland can score from anywhere on the field, Like I'm

1264
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 4: going to make sure I tell you something good about

1265
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 4: the other team.

1266
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 3: They have Josh Cribbs. But I think that that's, you know,

1267
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 3: that's the difference that I am concerned. Like Mike, you said, juju.

1268
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 3: I think they're saying juju because they are still trying

1269
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: to win games, and I I there's something to be

1270
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: said for that. I'm not trying to like knock them

1271
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 3: for it. But at what point And this kind of

1272
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: goes back to the Jared Sidham Cam Newton things like, right, like,

1273
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 3: at what point do we get to the point of

1274
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 3: the season where it's like, all right, well now we

1275
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: really need to see what Kaishan Boody can do. Right,

1276
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: you know, maybe Kaishan Boody can play a little bit

1277
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: and he has to be active in the game. Oh,

1278
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: he'll be active, but will he play.

1279
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 4: I mean Rager, Thornton, Thornton, Booty, Juju, pop and pop right,

1280
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 4: so pop juju and Rager. So yeah, you know you're right,

1281
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 4: there's a chance that he doesn't have a role.

1282
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose Anthony's in Seattle. Hey, Anthony, Hey, what's

1283
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: up my people?

1284
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 12: Hey?

1285
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 9: Hey?

1286
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 8: Uh so I'm calling it, Evan, I got your back, man,

1287
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 8: and listen. I'm sorry for always being a couple of

1288
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 8: days behind, but I don't listen live. But Tuesday's argument

1289
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 8: I had to jump in, so, uh, I'm with Evan

1290
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 8: on you know, he made a statement like, you know

1291
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 8: this our resources need to go to offense. This defense

1292
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 8: went healthy is I think this defense is set. I'm

1293
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 8: with Evan on that, and you guys, there was kind

1294
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 8: of some pushback from from Paul and Fred on you know,

1295
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 8: whether or not we have great players or you know,

1296
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 8: whatever way you want to superlatives or whatever you want

1297
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 8: to use. I'm going to use the term big time

1298
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 8: players or high end players. I think we got small

1299
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 8: sample size, but Gonzo definitely Judon, who may not be

1300
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 8: part of this team's future, but he's has currently constituted

1301
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 8: another high end player. And then you guys, I think

1302
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 8: you guys might disagree with this because I feel like

1303
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 8: he gets down played. But I think Kyle Duggar, he's

1304
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 8: been my favorite player since like his second year in

1305
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 8: the league. I've never seen the guy get moved backwards.

1306
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 8: I think last year he blossomed into that more of

1307
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 8: a playmaker, and now they're taking him away from the

1308
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 8: line of scrimmage. But I think that's another high end player,

1309
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 8: whether or not you guys agree or not. And then

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Speaker 8: a couple like young potential ones. But I got to

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Speaker 8: play the guys, but I think White when he plays

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00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 8: Barimore is inconsistent, but he showed he can be a force.

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Speaker 8: And I would love to see mapu uh play play

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Speaker 8: linebacker and see what's what's there, because I think there's

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00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 8: a lot of potential there. My last point, and i'll

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Speaker 8: get off the line, is the forty nine Ers defense

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00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 8: was brought up and Paul said, oh, they have great players. Well,

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Speaker 8: I say, sure, Nick Bosa, Fred Warner, but but who

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00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 8: else because I don't think we don't have anybody on

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00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 8: our front seven like those two guys. But I don't

1321
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 8: think they have anybody in their secondary like like like

1322
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 8: Gonzales or or or Dougger.

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00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 4: They don't have anybody like or Gonzales and play.

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00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 8: With Leeds and their offense score so they get they're

1325
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 8: in favorable positions where their defense gets to showcase their talent.

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00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 8: And so I think I just want to push back

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00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 8: on our our I think our defense is doing healthy.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Anthony. I think my stance on that

1329
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: was in today's NFL. The Patriots have a defense that's that's.

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00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 7: Fine, that's good enough, But we're saying that I agree

1331
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 7: with you what the defense is supposed to be though,

1332
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 7: right like with judah On and Gonzales not current as currently.

1333
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 4: At full strength, I mean Gonzales played three games now.

1334
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think they're fine. I totally agree with Fred.

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00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 4: I agreed with you on Tuesday on.

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00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: That Eldred's in North Carolina. Hey Aldred, Aldred, Hey Fellas.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, okay, talk about that. Uh, Evan, I would love

1338
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 12: to argue with you, but I ain't got time. Paul

1339
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 12: agree with you in Pete and.

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00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 13: We'll always kick that, kick that out of me.

1341
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 12: But question y'all was talking about Bill maybe going to

1342
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 12: the commanders, and uh, I know, I know it's just

1343
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 12: how but if I was the players on that, I'd

1344
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 12: be kind of worried because of the roster building he

1345
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 12: does in New England. So that means but Terry and Dodson,

1346
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 12: whoever come up with a contract, they won't get paid

1347
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 12: to get away. Yeah, definite, I'll be worried about. I

1348
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 12: think we're gonna keep him another year.

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00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: Ye'll have a good one, all right, thanks, Eldred.

1350
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 5: Just first move trade Terry McLaurin.

1351
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 3: I just I think he's talking about the whole, the

1352
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 3: whole preidy thing, and like, I don't know, I didn't

1353
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 3: I don't think like we disagree as much as as.

1354
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 4: Oh, it's not like I don't think it was like

1355
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 4: all Brady, I just don't think you want anything without them,

1356
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: that's all. Yeah, I agree with that.

1357
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: Will's and Florida he will.

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00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 13: Any how you guys doing. I wanted to call in

1359
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 13: and address something Mike said at the top of the

1360
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 13: show that kind of struck a chord with me when

1361
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 13: he said that he finds it weird or hard so

1362
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 13: root for the other team or for root for our

1363
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 13: Lossit that couldn't be further from the truth for me, dude,

1364
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 13: it's it's I literally wear pom poms for the other

1365
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 13: team weekly. Why would you Why would you want this

1366
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,919
Speaker 13: team to win any games? I fell into a mini

1367
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 13: depression when we beat.

1368
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 3: Buffalong because there's other ways, Like, there's other ways to

1369
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: do it. I think that the notion that you have

1370
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: to tank and that's the only way out of this

1371
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: is incorrect. I think that it's been proven to be incorrect.

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00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: In fact, like I don't think a lot of teams

1373
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: that have tanked have uh you know, really, I think

1374
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 3: there's a lot of proof that that doesn't work. Yeah,

1375
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, your roster is completely in shambles

1376
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: if that's what you want, and.

1377
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: Plus losing breeds losing. It's a culture thing and I

1378
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: can't tell you you know, and I know, well you

1379
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: weren't here. But after that Bills win, I mean our office,

1380
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: it was like Wow, everyone like came in with a

1381
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,959
Speaker 1: jump in their step and it just felt a lot better.

1382
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 13: Everybody just ma I'm like, I feel like I'm in

1383
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 13: the twilight zone. Like I feel like I just want

1384
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 13: to stand at the top of a mountain and just

1385
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 13: is not good.

1386
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 4: If Jeff and new Bedford wants a word, but I

1387
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 4: just don't.

1388
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 3: I don't think it's just like about Mac being are

1389
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 3: good or not. It's just it's about there's fifty two

1390
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 3: other guys on the team and like, you know, you gotta,

1391
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: you gotta. I think that there's a ways to do it,

1392
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 3: Like that's it.

1393
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 5: But it's like, but this whole conversation we just had

1394
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 5: about Brady, like if.

1395
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 7: You're being realistic about really believing that that they don't

1396
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 7: win anything without the quarterback, Like, how do you not

1397
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 7: say the thing that makes most sense right now for

1398
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 7: the better betterment of this franchise is to lose every

1399
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 7: single game and try to get Caleb Williams because a

1400
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 7: quarterback is what you need in this league period, Like

1401
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 7: doesn't matter if you don't if you don't have that guy,

1402
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 7: you're not going anywhere.

1403
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 5: You're not winning anything.

1404
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: So I think it's the reality and the truth of

1405
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 4: that that but the danger in that and why I don't.

1406
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 4: I don't do that, like I and I understand why

1407
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 4: people do, but I don't. I don't root for losses

1408
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 4: with my team because there's just no there's no guarantee. Yeah,

1409
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 4: like that that guy is going to do what you

1410
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 4: think he's going to do, you know, and and not

1411
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 4: not suggesting you don't draft him, you know, And that's you.

1412
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 5: Know, it's just hard to say we're gonna lose every

1413
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 5: game on purpose to get them right.

1414
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 4: And I know that no one loses every game on purpose.

1415
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 4: I've been through that a million times. Like you know,

1416
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 4: Arizona's doing it perfectly right now. Like they the kids

1417
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 4: go out there and try hard, they're not going to

1418
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 4: be good. And I do think and I don't know

1419
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 4: how good the coaches, but I know they play hard

1420
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 4: for him. So I do think that they're they're sort

1421
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 4: of establishing some kind of culture. Even though they're won

1422
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 4: and seven they play really hard. Now I don't know

1423
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 4: what's going to happen, Like I would let Kyler Murray

1424
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 4: play and figure out, because maybe you don't have to

1425
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 4: have that top pick, and right, you know, if he

1426
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 4: comes back and you think he's working and you know

1427
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 4: all that stuff, and you don't have to take a

1428
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 4: quarterback with with the pick that you're going to get

1429
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 4: first of all, there's no pressure to have to get

1430
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 4: one number one. So in other words, if you win

1431
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 4: these games, you're not in a depression like Will and Florida.

1432
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 5: Or you get your next Larry Fitzgerald.

1433
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 4: Right, maybe you take Marvin Harrison, maybe you take a

1434
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 4: stud on defense, maybe you take a tat, I don't know,

1435
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 4: whatever you want. If Kyler Murray proves that he's healthy

1436
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 4: and productive and Jonathan Gannon likes him.

1437
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: I just also think that that, you know, I think

1438
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 3: the reason why Patriots fans want them to tank, or

1439
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 3: some Patriots fans want them to tank, is because this

1440
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: organization has not really shown that they are aggressive in

1441
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 3: the draft to trade up. So an only way to

1442
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 3: get the quarterback is if you actually have the pick

1443
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 3: originally to take the quarterback. But so many other teams

1444
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 3: have have traded up for the quarterback that weren't a

1445
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 3: complete mess to tank to get to the number one pick,

1446
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: And I just I think that there's that's where it

1447
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 3: comes in as well, Like you know, Kansas City trade

1448
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 3: traded up for Patrick Mahomes and drafted him like tenth overall.

1449
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 3: Now that that was a kind of a fluke that

1450
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 3: he fell that far, I guess you could say. But

1451
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 3: they were a really good team with Alex Smith. They

1452
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 3: were a playoff team, and they knew that it wasn't

1453
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 3: good enough that they had, you know, a ceiling, and

1454
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 3: then they traded up for Patrick Mahomes and here they are.

1455
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 3: So it just that's why I think that tanking can't

1456
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 3: be the only answer there. There's a several other ways

1457
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 3: to do it.

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01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, most recently, I guess the

1459
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: most famous team or most famous tank was the Colts,

1460
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: right how they got Andrew.

1461
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 4: Luck and Jacksonville kind of tank for Lauren See it

1462
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 4: turned out that way, But they didn't know that Peyton

1463
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 4: Manning wasn't going to be able to play that season.

1464
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,479
Speaker 4: Like they didn't go into the twenty eleven season saying

1465
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 4: Andrew Lux coming out next year. What do we gotta

1466
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 4: do to make sure we get him?

1467
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: But once they knew there was, there was.

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01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 4: But I actually think it was the opposite, and I

1469
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 4: think that they gross. I think Poleon made a gross

1470
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 4: mistake by signing Kerry Collins like five days before the

1471
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 4: season saying he's going to be my quarterback, because he

1472
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 4: foolishly thought we can win games and make it with

1473
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 4: this guy. It should have been Tanka Palooza right from

1474
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 4: the start. It ended up that way.

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01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 3: He got Lucky Curtis Painter, he got lucky Kim Newton again.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break. As you can see,

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Speaker 10: And we are back with the PU halftime show. Faith

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Speaker 10: joining me again that you might as.

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Speaker 1: Well just be the co host.

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Speaker 9: I want myself coch you know what?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, add that tear resume real quick, guys, this is

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Speaker 10: going to be the last halftime show for a while

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Speaker 10: because the Pats are going to deutsch Land. So let's

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Speaker 10: have a quick Thursday night football preview as we've been doing.

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Speaker 10: I think people like it. We want a good game.

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Speaker 10: But Faith, as always, we are going to start with

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Speaker 10: some trivia. All right, awesome, there's a hint. You can

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Speaker 10: find the answer to this on some Patriots content, maybe

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Speaker 10: the appf Coffin hint. All right, question one, And guys,

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Speaker 10: this is to win either a poster or a T shirt.

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Speaker 10: Matt Morrell is going to send you something good. So

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Speaker 10: Question one. What was the original NFL team awarded to

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Speaker 10: the City of Boston slash New England in nineteen thirty two?

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Speaker 10: All right, way back? Question two. The Patriots last played

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Speaker 10: the Commanders at home on Week nine of twenty fifteen

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01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 10: in a twenty seven to ten victory. That in that game,

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Speaker 10: the leading Patriots receiver had five receptions for one hundred

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Speaker 10: and two yards.

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Speaker 9: Who was it?

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Speaker 10: Question three. In an off season where the Patriots signed

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01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 10: famous wide receiver chad Ocho Cinco Johnson, which other former

1524
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 10: Washington player did they also sign a little Washington?

1525
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, because I said, hey, hey, send your

1527
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 10: answers to the web radio Patriots dot com. As I said,

1528
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,919
Speaker 10: there's a hint where you can find them. But Faith,

1529
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 10: let's get into it Thursday Night football. You know how

1530
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 10: I am with these games? I just want something fun

1531
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 10: to watch on a Thursday night, And tonight we got

1532
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 10: Titans verse the Steelers in Pittsburgh.

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01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: All right, I.

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01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 9: Feel like this is going to be a very evenly

1535
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 9: matched game.

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01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 10: I think so too, and I think we might be

1537
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 10: in store for a really good game. We got Will

1538
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 10: Levis who had his welcome the Mayo Man had his

1539
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 10: welcome to the NFL moment last week in a exciting

1540
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 10: twenty eight to three win over the Titans where he

1541
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 10: had two hundred and thirty eight yards and four touchdowns,

1542
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 10: with three of those bad boys going to DeAndre Hopkins,

1543
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 10: who some might say he should be in New England,

1544
01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:00,959
Speaker 10: but that's a different story. And then we had Kenny

1545
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 10: Pickett who started the game and he got hurt, and

1546
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 10: I don't know where he's at for this game.

1547
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 9: According to recent reports, he says that he will be

1548
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 9: playing on Thursday, So we'll see if that means that

1549
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 9: he'll start, and then you know, we'll see how the

1550
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 9: game goes if it kind of gets aggravated as the

1551
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 9: game goes, but supposedly he's all in.

1552
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 10: So and you know, they got Deontay Johnson back a

1553
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 10: wide receiver. Yeah, who he put up eight catches for

1554
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 10: eighty five yards, so we got, we got.

1555
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 9: I think this is gonna be really high scoring. I

1556
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,919
Speaker 9: don't see the defenses shining in this game.

1557
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 10: No, and you know they're both a little banged up

1558
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 10: because you know it's a quick turnaround. But I mean

1559
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 10: I'm leaning towards the Titans in this. I think Will

1560
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 10: Levis keeps the hot streak going. I think you're never

1561
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 10: gonna see Ryan Tannhill start another game in Tennessee.

1562
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 15: No.

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01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 9: And I also think, like when you have DeAndre Hopkins,

1564
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 9: like Will Levis just has to get the job done enough. Yeah,

1565
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 9: get the ball in the general area, and DeAndre Hopkins

1566
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 9: is gonna be fine. And also his I think like

1567
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 9: two of his scores, Hopkins was wide open. So like,

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01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 9: I feel like they're gonna run all over Pittsburgh's defense.

1569
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 9: And then if Kenny Pickett is healthy enough, I could

1570
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 9: see them sticking with it, you know, like keeping it

1571
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 9: close to the end. But again, I think the Titans

1572
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 9: are gonna win too. I think you know, they're in

1573
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 9: a tough spot. I mean, now they're three and four

1574
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 9: going against the four and three Steelers. I think the

1575
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 9: Titans pull it out.

1576
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 10: And they also got King Henry. Don't forget about him.

1577
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 9: I know it.

1578
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 10: It's crazy, like these running backs turn thirty and people

1579
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 10: forget about them, Like, guys, I'm thirty, Like, come on,

1580
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 10: King Henry just ran for one hundred and one yards.

1581
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 9: True.

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01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: No, So I had to I had to talk with.

1583
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 10: A friend who is a Steelers fan, and he says,

1584
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 10: the Steelers are just stuck in purgatory because Mike Tomlin's

1585
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 10: too good of a coach, where like he's never had

1586
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 10: a losing season. So even the team's not that good,

1587
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 10: still good enough coach that he's going to get them

1588
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 10: middle of the pack. They might sneak in at the

1589
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 10: wild card. Yeah, and you know, sometimes, as we are

1590
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 10: experiencing now, you just need that bad season we can

1591
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 10: get a difference maker. So I don't know, like I

1592
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 10: don't know where you're as a Steelers fan because like

1593
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 10: it's a foreign your four and three, But it's not

1594
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 10: that convincing.

1595
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,439
Speaker 9: No, I mean, I feel like if they're lucky, they'll

1596
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 9: squeeze into the wild card for sure.

1597
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 10: But you got that tough division there, you got, you

1598
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 10: got Burrow Lamar Jackson, Like you're.

1599
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 9: Not winning the division, that's for sure. No, like you're

1600
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 9: you're getting third place in best and I.

1601
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 10: Mean they have Naji Harris and he's not even their

1602
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 10: best running back. That was their first round pick in

1603
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 10: Jalen Warren is Jalen Warren. I think his first name

1604
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 10: is so yeah, he's very the Nagy Harris in my mind. Yeah,

1605
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 10: so faith, let's get some score predictions here, all right?

1606
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 10: We got we thinking shootout?

1607
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: What were we at?

1608
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 10: What was our Thursday night game last week? It was

1609
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 10: Bucks Bills and we weren't that far off.

1610
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 9: No, we weren't that far off. The Bills did end

1611
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 9: up kind of running away with it.

1612
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 10: We had the Bucks winning, we had the Bucks winning,

1613
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 10: but the score the score was similar.

1614
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 9: Yes, okay, I don't know. I feel like this is

1615
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 9: going to be high scoring, but like, do you think it?

1616
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 9: Do you think both teams reached in the thirties too much?

1617
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 5: I'll go first.

1618
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 10: I think Tennessee thirty one, Yeah, Steelers like twenty seven,

1619
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 10: twenty five, twenty seven, I.

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01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 9: Can agree with that. Thirty one to twenty seven Titans favor.

1621
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 9: I feel like this is just gonna be one of

1622
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 9: those games where I hope the Titans come out strong

1623
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 9: with it and then like it makes the Steelers have

1624
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 9: to react, Like I feel like, regardless of what happens,

1625
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 9: the Steelers are gonna have to be reactionary to how

1626
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 9: like will Levis is gonna run this game?

1627
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 10: So I don't know, do we think do we think

1628
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,560
Speaker 10: Will Levis like comes in hot again? And because I

1629
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 10: wasn't expecting that, I wasn't expecting that last week.

1630
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 9: I think he's gonna be on this like Brock Party

1631
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 9: like high for a little bit. I don't know how

1632
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 9: long it will last. I don't see it lasting, like

1633
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 9: you know, I don't know, but I think like coming

1634
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 9: off of last week, his confidence has to be up.

1635
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 9: Maybe not four touchdowns, maybe not, but like, I still

1636
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 9: think he's gonna be kind of party for a little bit.

1637
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel that. It's funny. My phone's been buzzing

1638
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 10: all week because all my fantasy leagues Will Levis keeps

1639
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 10: getting popped picked up on the waiver wire. I know

1640
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 10: everybody's feel of him. I think I think Party has

1641
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 10: a solid game. I think the difference maker here is

1642
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 10: King Henry. I mean every Thursday night game I watch,

1643
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 10: he has one of those crazy runs. So yeah, I

1644
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 10: expect a big game out of him. All right, so

1645
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 10: we both have the Titans. Yeah, both have the Titans.

1646
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 10: I love it, guys, thank you for tuning in. We'll

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Speaker 10: be back, not next week, in two weeks, I believe.

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Speaker 10: And also I always say, I always push this. We'll

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Speaker 10: playing the Commanders at home. Check out the posters and

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Speaker 10: the good stuff. But thank you, and let's get back

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Speaker 4: And now great moments in.

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Speaker 4: We'll see if they play. Okay, if they play, then

1680
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Speaker 4: I'll say I was wrong. Okay, but last year they

1681
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 4: didn't play. The youth didn't play. It took it took

1682
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 4: like eight weeks from reminder Stevenson to like fully establish

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Speaker 4: himself as a play.

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01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: That job's pretty young.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like they got rid of three of

1686
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 5: their oldest linebackers and pretty old. You're still beating the

1687
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 5: old drama as hard as you were beaten last year.

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01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 5: When they got rid of the old I mean they

1689
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 5: got rid of like I mean, they're two over two

1690
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 5: guys linebackers three.

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01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 4: And they brought back one of them one. Yeah, I

1692
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 4: don't like them. I want young guys to play. I

1693
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 4: don't want I don't want McMillan and Bentley to play.

1694
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 4: I want mcgron in Perkins to play. Like, if they

1695
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 4: do play, I'll say I was wrong. He's playing them.

1696
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 4: I'm skilled players to play.

1697
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Speaker 5: I don't really care at this point if you're twenty

1698
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 5: eight or twenty four like that.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like I do like because

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01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 4: you're not going to get better with twenty eight year

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01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 4: olds that are already cratered in their career. Yeah, that's

1702
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 4: the way that league goes. Like quarterbacks can play forever,

1703
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 4: and you know there's there's random exceptions, but linebackers don't

1704
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 4: generally just keep on plugging.

1705
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: Offensive linemen can play longer.

1706
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's always exceptions. I'm not telling you that again.

1707
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 4: When I use the terms like always never, no one everyone, like,

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01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 4: I don't mean those terms literally. They're always accept it's

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Speaker 4: have meaning. That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 1: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered Good one. Mike

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Speaker 1: was coming back five hundred. Is these ticket Hotline web

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Speaker 1: Radio at Patriots dot Com is the email address. Evan

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Speaker 1: has left for practice, so he'll be coming back from

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Speaker 1: practice soon.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I didn't.

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01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 7: I unfortunately got Mayo all over myself, so I was

1717
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 7: cleaning out, so I didn't get to hear.

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01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 5: But like it's funny when we hear those arguments in.

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01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 4: It was the old news, and I still have the

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 4: same one. I'm a one trick and not about anybody

1721
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 4: in particular, because if you look at the guys that

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Speaker 4: I was actually talking about, we're talking about linebacker.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay.

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01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 4: I didn't want ray Kwon McMillan playing. I didn't want

1725
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 4: ja want Bentley plane, but I was saying I'd rather

1726
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 4: see Cameron mcgron and those I'm not in the league

1727
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 4: at this.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's like this, there's always a perspective a couple

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Speaker 7: of years later, like some of the arguments where like

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Speaker 7: oh my gosh, like you know, we're talking about like

1731
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Speaker 7: Newton and stuff like man, if we could just go back.

1732
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Speaker 5: But that's that's funny.

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Speaker 4: I want to see, right, And again, it's not like

1734
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 4: you can't remember. The student thing to me wasn't because

1735
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 4: I thought you had like Russell Wilson mid round pick star, right,

1736
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 4: you know, in the way. It's just like I know

1737
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 4: what Newton is, I know what ray kwon McMillan. Ray

1738
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 4: kwon McMillan's not going to help you win games. You know,

1739
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 4: maybe in retrospect that I you know, maybe it is

1740
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 4: Juwan Bentley a little bit better than I gave Maybe

1741
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 4: I still don't think he's a difference maker, but he's

1742
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 4: probably a better player than I gave him credit for. Yeah,

1743
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 4: but I just I don't know what the other guys are.

1744
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 7: I mean, and it's I mean in many ways, not

1745
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 7: these specific examples, but you just you can't help but say,

1746
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 7: like why didn't we do this earlier?

1747
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:32,600
Speaker 5: You know, like why don't you turn it over? You

1748
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 5: would have maybe had a little bit more sense.

1749
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 7: I mean that was was that like twenty twenty, probably

1750
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 7: when they were bringing back like Van Noy and everybody

1751
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 7: good one.

1752
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: I think it was. Yeah, there were some guys they

1753
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: were bringing back the band.

1754
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, run it back, Yeah, boogeyman.

1755
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 1: Colon Denver writes in Believe it or Not, We've got

1756
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: a game this Sunday, and I've got some questions about

1757
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: the opponent. Emmanuel Forbes was picked ahead of Gonzo. How's

1758
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 1: that working?

1759
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 4: Out not good.

1760
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 5: He's not he's benched.

1761
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 4: He's got benched.

1762
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Washington traded their pass rushers to play the young guys.

1763
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: Who are they? Do they have potential or are they nobodies? Yeah?

1764
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 7: They hired by Bill highlighted Casey two Hill and James

1765
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 7: Smith Williams, you know a couple of depths, guys that

1766
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 7: have been been rotating through. But they still have Deron

1767
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 7: Payne and Jonathan Allen, and those two guys are are

1768
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 7: very good, you know, on the inside. So it's gonna

1769
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 7: be a challenge for the Patriots guards.

1770
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: I think John Dotson has had a disappointing season.

1771
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 4: Why, I don't know.

1772
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 5: If i'd say that, I don't. I wouldn't. I mean

1773
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 5: he's corrective.

1774
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I don't watch I don't watch the

1775
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 4: The Commanders. But you know, thirty for two ninety one

1776
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 4: and two touchdowns, isn't the rible be like our leading receiver.

1777
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 4: He's the I mean as the number three got right,

1778
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 4: you know, And I think Samuel's.

1779
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 5: Kind of banged up right now.

1780
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 7: I know we didn't practice yesterday, so that's you know,

1781
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 7: one to watch. But those three guys are bettern't know

1782
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 7: what the Patriots got right.

1783
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: Now, what has Eric Bienemy been doing to make the

1784
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: Commanders so productive on offense despite an abysmal offensive line?

1785
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: Are you interested in him as the next head coach

1786
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:54,839
Speaker 1: of the Patriots.

1787
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 5: That's a good question.

1788
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 7: We kind of talked about it already, you know, Evan

1789
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 7: was dialing into that a little bit. But I just

1790
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 7: think their their willingness to throw the ball into you know,

1791
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 7: continually go back and attack it. And I think that's

1792
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 7: something that you know, teams generally need against the Patriots.

1793
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 7: They need that aggressiveness and just you know, you're going

1794
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 7: to take this defense down. You're going to go right

1795
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 7: at them and throw the ball down the field and

1796
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 7: if they pick off a pass, okay, we'll come back

1797
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 7: and do it again.

1798
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I would just say trying to score.

1799
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 4: And I know that sounds like simple, but Evan made

1800
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 4: that comment yesterday about you know, like, will they be

1801
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 4: willing to try to win shootouts? And I don't. I

1802
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 4: think that the enemy has a mindset like if we

1803
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 4: can go out and get there. This is this is

1804
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 4: kind of back to my Brady thing. And I felt

1805
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 4: like it was an enormous advantage that those Patriots teams

1806
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 4: had was knowing that Brady's gonna put up thirty today.

1807
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 4: You're going to be able to do that, and if

1808
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 4: you can't, you lose. And I think that was a

1809
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 4: huge mental edge that he had in some games when

1810
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 4: they were playing teams with sort of commensurate ability. You know,

1811
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 4: they would play the Colts in in the you know,

1812
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 4: the mid two thousands, and Peyton Manning would go into

1813
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 4: those games knowing, I can't punt today because the other

1814
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 4: guy ain't gonna punt, not against our defense.

1815
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 7: Or even coming down the stretch, like knowing they're going

1816
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 7: to make a push, like you always knew they were

1817
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 7: going to make a push.

1818
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 5: The game is not secure until it is one.

1819
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 4: And I think that is an enormous edge that Brady's

1820
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 4: production gave, gave those couple more twenty years of Patriots.

1821
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: Sam Howe, little fellow who I've been told doesn't throw

1822
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: past five yards kind of like Mac in that way,

1823
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: but more athletic and tougher.

1824
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 5: I would not agree with that.

1825
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 4: I totally disagree it doesn't throw past five are, Yeah,

1826
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 4: he probably throws it down the field too to whoever,

1827
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 4: so whoever told you that is wrong, wrong, and is

1828
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 4: Ron Rivera on the hot seat. Sure, yeah, any times

1829
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 4: you're trading guys away, so I'd say he's close to

1830
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 4: being out, so he is on the hot seat.

1831
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 3: But they let him run the deadline.

1832
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 4: They let him run the deadline, or Martine know, they

1833
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 4: let him run the dead The one of the guys

1834
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 4: said that that Mayhew San Francisco said that when he

1835
01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 4: was talking to Mayhew that they actually offered both of

1836
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 4: the guys well Sweat and Chase Young. Maybe what would

1837
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 4: you give us for? Maybe that maybe that's wrong.

1838
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,560
Speaker 3: But I read in the Athletic they had like the

1839
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 3: Niners guys and the the you know, they did like

1840
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 3: a joint post and the Washington guys, and they they

1841
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 3: said that bron Rivera has full control Washington ps.

1842
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 4: Someone tells you a full control guy?

1843
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: Huh. Someone tell Evan that three up, three down on

1844
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: a Thursday show is a bad idea.

1845
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:31,759
Speaker 4: I disagree.

1846
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 3: Okay, we do our show on Thursday.

1847
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't know I was supposed to do it, Evan.

1848
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 12: Evan has returned, has returned, has returned from.

1849
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 5: All right? Evan, what do you got?

1850
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: I know it's colder than it was yesterday.

1851
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 4: So you have the good news.

1852
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 3: First, or the bad news, bad good Brad, You're the

1853
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 3: bad bad news as Trent Brown, Calvin Anderson, Devonte Parker

1854
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,839
Speaker 3: and a new absence today Devon Godshaw not at practice,

1855
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 3: not at practice.

1856
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 4: But Pharaoh's back the good news. I wanted the good

1857
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 4: news first because I like the best tight end in football.

1858
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 3: According to Pro Football Focus, Pharaoh Brown is back at Patriots.

1859
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 5: Take off the minimum snaps now, because you can't.

1860
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 4: He is no minimums better than Travis Kelcey.

1861
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 5: He's got two hundred on the nose.

1862
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 4: Perpuff. Reminds me of like that that eighties Saturday Night

1863
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 4: Live skit with Ditkah Hurricane Dicken, George Kittle, Travis Kelson,

1864
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 4: Farrell Brown or Pharaoh.

1865
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 5: But the hurricane's name is Hurricane Dick.

1866
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 3: All the guy does is catch chunk plays.

1867
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 4: That's all all you.

1868
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 3: Every time he touches the ball, it's a plus ten.

1869
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 3: It's incredible.

1870
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: I love it. It was colder out there today, It's

1871
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: freaking I literally had ice on my car. I had

1872
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: to like scrape ice off my windows today.

1873
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 4: Texture last night put the heat on.

1874
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 5: Well, November second, you made it. I know you're trying

1875
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 5: to try to push I.

1876
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 4: Want to see I want to live fast and loose.

1877
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: Just upset about that. So so because it was really

1878
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 1: cold out where it was everyone in shorts.

1879
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 4: No, but it was funny.

1880
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: You want to how they do it.

1881
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 3: I was, I was, you know, eating my my turkey

1882
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 3: sandwich on the way, trying to finish my lunch. So

1883
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 3: I actually got there right as as they were letting

1884
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 3: us into practice, and so Barth was like, oh, I

1885
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 3: thought maybe because it's so cold, you just weren't going

1886
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 3: to come today.

1887
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 5: I was like, like, I got a theme song. I

1888
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 5: have to live.

1889
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, if I didn't have obligations,

1890
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 3: then I would have considered it.

1891
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 4: So obligations like telling what the mood was.

1892
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:53,600
Speaker 1: Were they bundled up or not?

1893
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 3: The players, Yeah, you were seeing a lot of scuba

1894
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 3: suits starting to come out, you know, J C.

1895
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 4: Jackson.

1896
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 1: That's a little performative.

1897
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 5: If you asked me, Mac had on one.

1898
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 3: Last week, it is incredibly like it's not incredibly come on,

1899
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 3: it's unincredibly cold four degrees right now. No, no, no,

1900
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 3: but it's it's it's bitter out there, and I'm just

1901
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 3: it's incredibly cold. But the fact that we went from

1902
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 3: what it was last week all of a sudden, So

1903
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 3: this week it's kind of a shock to the sound.

1904
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 4: I'm surprised golfing Saturday.

1905
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: It was thirty five degrees this morning on the Cape,

1906
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 1: so it was probably a little colder up here.

1907
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 5: I'm surprised they didn't let you stay out there for

1908
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 5: like twenty minutes. Usually that's them.

1909
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 4: So yesterday I told yesterday the period two guys.

1910
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 3: They did the whole break in between things, and I

1911
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 3: was telling you guys about last week, and I admit

1912
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 3: I considered not not going back at it.

1913
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 5: Forget it, so choose not to run.

1914
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: Was the immediate contingent, a buzz about this whole commander's thing.

1915
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 3: The media contingent was light today because really we were

1916
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 3: missing some people off what's going on in the fair

1917
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 3: Weather bad Ruins six or six and two.

1918
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 4: You you know this got to be there.

1919
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 1: They just had had a Celtics and Bruins game last night.

1920
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 3: Brunis game tonight, Bruins played tonight the Play the Hospital

1921
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 3: Bruins Toronto, one of those ESPN Plus games.

1922
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 5: We can't even see it.

1923
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to see it like going thirteen rows up.

1924
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 4: And watch it going. This is game ten for uh,

1925
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,560
Speaker 4: the hot the Hospital.

1926
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 3: Bruins because every defenseman on the Bruins roster is.

1927
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 5: Charlie McAvoy is throwing elbows. I don't know, but.

1928
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,480
Speaker 4: Well he's not playing right full game suspension.

1929
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, neither is Grizzly, neither is four Bird. Yeah, they're

1930
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 3: they're in trouble.

1931
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: So anything else to report from the mood access cold?

1932
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're starting to get a little bit of

1933
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: you know, uh, work human and the fact that the

1934
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 3: team is two and six and now it's forty degree

1935
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 3: out and we're standing out there talking about who's the

1936
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 3: new corner that they signed today and how he's wearing

1937
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 3: twenty eight Just like a mere Speed. It just doesn't

1938
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 3: hit the same, it doesn't hit the same.

1939
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 4: So there's definitely twenty eight. Yeah like speed.

1940
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, we just on the practice.

1941
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 4: I already have him in my just call him speed

1942
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 4: my favorites. Yeah, so I who's a mere Speed. He's

1943
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 4: already in the dictionary. I will admit it.

1944
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 5: I forget the guy's name, and we're getting there.

1945
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 4: We're getting there. Yeah, what was he Oregon State or yeah?

1946
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 4: Oregon State?

1947
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he was Alex Austin, drafted by somebody and

1948
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 7: then he was just on Buffalo seventh round. Yeah, and

1949
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 7: then he was on and he was on someone's practice,

1950
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 7: and now he's on the roster, right on the roster.

1951
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, so is he is? He?

1952
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 13: Is?

1953
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 4: He like a mere speed? They needed another special team.

1954
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 3: But the thing is weird is that he's not a

1955
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 3: mere speed. No, pun intended. Was very fast, like guy's not. No,

1956
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 3: he ran a four or five.

1957
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was six one, isn't he?

1958
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got similar sigh, I would say, but not

1959
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 3: anywhere near the athlete that Pady.

1960
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 4: We got some trivia questions.

1961
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 1: Yes, we gave during halftime, we gave away some posters

1962
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 1: and T shirt, poster and a T shirt. So we

1963
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: have the game day poster program. You can get that

1964
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 1: on Patriots dot com. Each poster is signed and numbered

1965
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 1: by the artists. There's only two hundred and seventy five

1966
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 1: available for each game. They're all unique, you know. It's

1967
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: a different artists for every game. So that's pretty cool.

1968
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: The first question is the original NFL team awarded to

1969
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: the City of Boston slash New England in nineteen thirty two.

1970
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,480
Speaker 4: Was the Redskins.

1971
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 5: No, well that's the r word.

1972
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, technically you're right, Paul, but it was the Boston

1973
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 1: Braves and they became the Redskins, now the Commanders. Yeah,

1974
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: and Shady it's not a word. Shady won that Eminem

1975
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: Shade Lynn.

1976
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 4: That means Matt.

1977
01:24:58,560 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 5: We got to send it to eight mile Matt.

1978
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 4: The page never get there.

1979
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 1: The Patriots last played the Commanders at home on Week

1980
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: nine of twenty fifteen, in a twenty seven to ten victory.

1981
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: That game, the leading Patriots receiver had five receptions for

1982
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:16,560
Speaker 1: one hundred and two yards. Who was it Dion Lewis incorrect?

1983
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 5: Holgan incorrect?

1984
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: Paul? Who is Hogan? And again we never know if

1985
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 1: he's a Brandon Lafellas correct.

1986
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 4: I believe it's the Deon Lewis twenty ACL game. I

1987
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 4: knew it was something d Us. I knew that. I

1988
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 4: think he tours ACL.

1989
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 5: And I was talking about buzz kill injuries. Had something

1990
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 5: this year that was a buzz com Joel and holl

1991
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 5: won that.

1992
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 1: And finally, in an off season where the Patriots signed

1993
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson, which former Washington player did,

1994
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 1: they also sign Big Album Big Al Albert Worth Andrew

1995
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: knocking the rust off.

1996
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 4: At La Gold signing.

1997
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 5: That was my remember, Like Kea, every time you talked

1998
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:56,959
Speaker 5: to him was like, I'm just still knocking.

1999
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 4: The rust seat. He did nothing in training camp, like

2000
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 4: never like flashed it at all. And then in a

2001
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 4: preseason game, like he drew a holding call and there

2002
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 4: were like five sidebars written about it like.

2003
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: He holding, like.

2004
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 4: Like the bar is like so ridiculously low at this point,

2005
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 4: and you know, like three days later he was gone.

2006
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 7: Who was the other big guy that used to that

2007
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 7: they had inside not like Brandon Detterick, but he was

2008
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 7: a veteran intol Like there was another big guy, big

2009
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 7: veteran that that was here for a few years next

2010
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 7: to Vince on the inside, you know, kind of playing

2011
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 7: that he's with rolling planking on.

2012
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 4: What his name was Keith Traylor?

2013
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: No, no, later, Keith Traylor was a nose tackle, wasn't he? Like?

2014
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 5: Who was fourteen? Who was fourteen defensive cacles?

2015
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 4: He played next next to Vince Vince.

2016
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 3: You said, yeah, Alan Branch, Yeah that was really good.

2017
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah, And I wasn't saying he wasn't. I

2018
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 5: just forgot his name.

2019
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 1: I thought he came from Buffalo, right, like he did

2020
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: come from Buffalo.

2021
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 4: Uncle Philip.

2022
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Phi, that that brings it all. That's exactly

2023
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 5: who was.

2024
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 1: First things first, Travis and West Virginia. Says just my opinion,

2025
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 1: but I think Belichick thinks Washington is a trash organization

2026
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,759
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't coach them in a million years. Also,

2027
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you have any idea for the

2028
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: poster giveaways. The trivia questions have become obscure. Maybe an

2029
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 1: impersonation contest or a best football joke contest.

2030
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll share those with I'll put them in the suggestion.

2031
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, gotta as it's probably watching.

2032
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 1: Okay, a lot of a lot of emails, a lot

2033
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: of phone calls. Let's get to the phones, try to

2034
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: get these people out because we got to go transition

2035
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: into picks. Dan's in New York. What's up Dan?

2036
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:51,600
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call. Looking forward to

2037
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 17: this so we can match up Belichick. Le defensives have

2038
01:27:55,880 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 17: had success against the MTB's rep second years, and I

2039
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 17: think Sam Heller up and then he can turnover prone,

2040
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 17: but he can sling it. So do you think that

2041
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 17: Belichick for.

2042
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 1: This weekend trying to make confusion confusion, dial it up,

2043
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 1: different looks.

2044
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you know. First of all, just owe

2045
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 3: to Wink Martindale. Love watching that Giants defense, just like

2046
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 3: ridiculous do ridiculous things. But that's what they did. You know,

2047
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 3: they sacked them six times in that game, and it

2048
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 3: was just like you you're not going to see what's

2049
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 3: coming and it's just gonna come from different directions and

2050
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 3: you're in.

2051
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,719
Speaker 5: It wasn't as much just beating guys.

2052
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 3: Like, stunts are big against this line. They have a

2053
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 3: big problem. You know, bad lines have problem with movement.

2054
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 3: We can tell you that from this line here. So

2055
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 3: stunts and things like that. But then Wig Martin Dell

2056
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 3: is a notorious blitzer. You know he comes after guys.

2057
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: Thanks Dan, Let's go to Tim and Providence.

2058
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 15: Hey, Tim, I guess the thing that I wanted to

2059
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 15: bring up with you guys is like I've been thinking

2060
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 15: about all these teams that made moves of the deadline and.

2061
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 18: How the Patriots didn't do anything. And if I'm the

2062
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 18: craft I got to look at this situation and think

2063
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 18: to myself, we don't have any talent on the offensive

2064
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 18: side of the ball, and we have not set ourselves

2065
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 18: up for the draft. You know, I don't care if

2066
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 18: you're trading Douggar for a fifth round pick, like, we

2067
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 18: need to move on and I don't see any plans

2068
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 18: for the future. It's so frustrating to watch. I mean,

2069
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 18: we know that this team is not going anywhere. Like

2070
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 18: the talent they have on this team is not going

2071
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 18: to put these guys anywhere near playoff wins. They playoff

2072
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:45,799
Speaker 18: win they haven't done.

2073
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 12: It in four years.

2074
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 13: You know, like, we've got to move on.

2075
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 17: Well, we've got to get rid of pieces.

2076
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: It's going to be a very interesting offseason.

2077
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to trade Josh Hujs, you're

2078
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 3: not trading Kyle Dugger for a fifth round pick?

2079
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 1: Like, what do we healing?

2080
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 18: Like he round pick whatever? Fourth round pick.

2081
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 3: Kyle Duggart is one of your few good players and

2082
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 3: you're going to sell him off for a fourth round pick.

2083
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 3: Bailey Zappi was a fourth round pick.

2084
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 4: They got him.

2085
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 18: Is Kyle Duger helping us win football games right now?

2086
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 4: Yes?

2087
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 3: Help to win a lot of football games last year.

2088
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you can't, but you can't think about

2089
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 4: it in those kinds of terms with it so thanks

2090
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,839
Speaker 4: to you can't just like get rid of all your players.

2091
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 4: That's my point, they're two and six, so obviously no

2092
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 4: one's helping them win games right now. Like so I

2093
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:43,679
Speaker 4: and I understand the frustration, but I would have moved

2094
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 4: if I could have. Yep, yeah, but it's hurt. I

2095
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 4: also don't Well, I think he was available. I think

2096
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 4: a lot of people were willing to take him, and

2097
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 4: I think based on this is totally my speculation. I

2098
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 4: think they were looking for like a third round pick

2099
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 4: or better and that wasn't what his market was. But again,

2100
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:05,640
Speaker 4: and they didn't want I would have moved him for

2101
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 4: whatever I could have gotten for him, because I think

2102
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 4: you're gonna lose him for nothing.

2103
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 1: I get a fan saying, you know, what is the plan?

2104
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 1: So if you you know, start trading pieces, Okay, we're

2105
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: looking at the future. You know, that's a plan. If

2106
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 1: you sign guys you know they are the future, that's

2107
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 1: a plan too. But they didn't do anything. So I

2108
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,640
Speaker 1: think fans are like, what what is the plan? What

2109
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: do they want to do? What are they thinking?

2110
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 3: Well, they're not going to sign guys now. But I

2111
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 3: agree with like with Paul was saying, with that was

2112
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:37,560
Speaker 3: my point, Like I almost thought that he meant, like,

2113
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 3: you know, you know, but because I don't want to

2114
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 3: like mean to like attack him or anything. But like

2115
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 3: Kyle dugger in my opinion, is too good of a

2116
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 3: player to be giving up for a fifth round pick.

2117
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they sign him now?

2118
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 3: I well they could, it's just not really how they

2119
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 3: do business. Like if they're going to sign Kyle Duggart,

2120
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:54,600
Speaker 3: they're going to sign them like in February, you know,

2121
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 3: and Kyle.

2122
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 4: If I were Kyle Dugger, I wouldn't even think about

2123
01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 4: signing right now.

2124
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,640
Speaker 1: Right But regardless, and when they sign him, if they

2125
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 1: sign those types of players, that's a plan, Like we

2126
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 1: believe in this guy. He's going to be part of

2127
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 1: our future.

2128
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 9: You know.

2129
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's it's an it's one answer, yeah

2130
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: to many questions.

2131
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 7: It is going to be so many dominoes to fall

2132
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 7: before we get to the point of like re signing guys,

2133
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:19,560
Speaker 7: Like it's first thing we have to do at the

2134
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 7: end of the season is determine who's going to be

2135
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 7: running this team going forward.

2136
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 3: And then that's why I have to, like, you know,

2137
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 3: Barth keep talking about the draft and I'm like, who's

2138
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 3: picking what's the offense?

2139
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 4: Like I, you know, there's too many.

2140
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 1: And that's and I don't know this, but I've said

2141
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: it before. I think that maybe the Crafts have said

2142
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: it's a hold on twenty twenty four until we see

2143
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 1: what happens this year. Yeah, you know nothing, make no

2144
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 1: moves beyond this year. Yeah.

2145
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 7: I mean, and they should theoretically be able to do

2146
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 7: what they want, you know. It's it's just really a

2147
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 7: debate of you know, how much you value Dugger and

2148
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,560
Speaker 7: Uce and I throw Jennings into that mix too. I

2149
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 7: think he's a you know, just a good kind of

2150
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 7: solid player to keep around, probably.

2151
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 1: With your guy, your surprise guys person in your round table.

2152
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 5: Oh, I hadn't written mine yet.

2153
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 4: I was obviously he cheats off.

2154
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 5: Well, no, I like to give a full picture.

2155
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 1: So you said, Jennings that was my guy?

2156
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, No, I think that's a good one, you know.

2157
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 7: And like, I don't want to say he's not the

2158
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 7: next coming of Warrant Taylor or anything, but I just

2159
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 7: think that's the kind of solid guy that, you know,

2160
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 7: when you are not jokingly talk about having a solid

2161
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 7: middle class, that's.

2162
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 1: The kind he seems to be taking advance and step in.

2163
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:24,560
Speaker 5: He can set the edge a little bit. He's a

2164
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 5: good you know, third fourth outside linebacker.

2165
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 1: One more called David's in New York. What's up, David?

2166
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 8: Hey you guys.

2167
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 19: Yeah, a long time listener. Uh never called him before,

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01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 19: emailed them a few times.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 5: Welcome to call from.

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01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 19: JAFF yesterday made me want to call in. And my

2172
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 19: big thing was, you know, I think it's over with

2173
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,639
Speaker 19: mac here in New England. But I just I don't

2174
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 19: think you can really like say he didn't wasn't put

2175
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 19: in a horrible position, having to learn three different offenses,

2176
01:33:56,840 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 19: no real weapons around him, including no no third downback

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01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 19: like he brought up. And you know, Joe Burrow does

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01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 19: have a third down back, and I would say Josh

2179
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 19: Allen was James Cook. And but then even on top

2180
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,679
Speaker 19: of that, like Paul said, you know, Joe Burrow doesn't

2181
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 19: worry about that stuff. But you know, it's also must

2182
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 19: be nice to know that even the Jamar chase, the

2183
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 19: T Higgins is gonna get open in point five seconds

2184
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 19: for you. And that's what it is with Alan too.

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01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 19: He has digs and you go through everyone has that

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01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:27,680
Speaker 19: top wide receiver. And you know, like I said, I

2187
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 19: think it's over with Macs what work seems to be

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01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 19: kind of bad now and this processing has dropped significantly

2189
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 19: over the years.

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01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 1: So what, Dave, just a question. When they got Mac,

2191
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 1: were you pleased that they picked him? Or at were

2192
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 1: you never a Mac guy? I'm just wondering.

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01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 19: I was originally like eighty seventy thirty seventy in favor.

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01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 19: I did was more of a fan of the strong

2195
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 19: arm guys. But you know, I did see the vision

2196
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 19: with you know, that's what Brady kind of was coming in.

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01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 19: You know, wasn't super mobile, not comparing Brady, but uh.

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01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 1: Okay, just all right, he was putting on your poll.

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01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:10,799
Speaker 1: All right, thanks David, appreciate And again.

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01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 4: I'm not sure which side to put him off.

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01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 5: Took your pull down.

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01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 4: He's out on Mac. And then he's complaining that like

2203
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 4: James Cook and Joe Mixon, who are every down back,

2204
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 4: just like Ramadre Stevenson.

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01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 1: Like, but he has an option on third down. I

2206
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 1: think it is his point he has someone to go to.

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01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,560
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't, I don't get it.

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01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 3: Sorry, I mean like that. The third down back thing

2209
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 3: is just it's just frustrating because it's an easy hole

2210
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 3: to fill that they didn't fill. It's not like that

2211
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 3: the third down back was going to change their entire offense. Like,

2212
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,680
Speaker 3: let's not overrate the third down back. But at the

2213
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 3: same time, I.

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01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 4: Think they passes. To be honest, it was it was

2215
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 4: an easy thing to do.

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01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 3: You would think to find a guy that can get

2217
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 3: that can get open on third down out of the backfield,

2218
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 3: and they just ignored it.

2219
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 1: All right, it's uh, we have to really hurry. It's

2220
01:35:56,720 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: that time of the week and fall I'm afraid to listen.

2221
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 4: No, it's better. Really, it was better this week for

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01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 4: most Alex, who am a little disappointed in. I figured

2223
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 4: she'd come and take her victory. Lap thirteen and three. Wow,

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01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 4: good solid week for Alex.

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01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 1: That's really heady.

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01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 4: She maintains the top spot Mike twelve and four from Mike,

2227
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 4: Paul eleven and five, Evan ten and six, and Fred

2228
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 4: Fred nine and seven.

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01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 3: That's much better.

2230
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 4: It was a better week for it with the spread.

2231
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 4: Better with the spread. It was Alex nine five and two,

2232
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 4: followed by Mike and Fred at eight six and two

2233
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 4: and Paul and Evan at seven seven and two.

2234
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 1: At least they got over five hundred standings.

2235
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 4: Alex maintains your leads seventy eight and forty four, followed

2236
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 4: by Mike and I at seventy four and forty eight. Mike,

2237
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 4: you caught me this week. Good for you than you

2238
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 4: probably the latest in the season you've.

2239
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:56,719
Speaker 5: Ever been patrons.

2240
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 4: Oh should I not do that? Let's see Fred in

2241
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 4: Evan seventy one and fifty one.

2242
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 3: Okay, that's why I'm fine.

2243
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 4: I'm fine, that's whatever. It's fine.

2244
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 4: With the spread, Alex and Paul are tied sixty one,

2246
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 4: fifty six and five, Fred fifty nine, fifty eight and five,

2247
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 4: Mike fifty seven, sixty and five, and Evan fifty three,

2248
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 4: sixty four and five.

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01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 1: Okay, big week, Big week. I'm ready for this week,

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Speaker 1: ready to go. I'm not all right. Eight fifteen tonight

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01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: the three and four Titans tonight?

2252
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 4: Can we stream things at the same time?

2253
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 5: I watched the Bruins and this wish.

2254
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 4: So Will Levis had another flaw in the cord cutting thing.

2255
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 4: It is a flaw. But what you could do is

2256
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,719
Speaker 4: you could have two different devices. You have a computer,

2257
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:47,600
Speaker 4: so in other words, I might as well just have

2258
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 4: cable and pay for it. Well, you can flip back

2259
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 4: and forth, but you can't never.

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01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 1: The three and four Tights.

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01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 4: I'm not felger. You don't have to treat. Luckily, we

2262
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 4: do have to hurry if we really don't.

2263
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: Reinflory Titans are at the four and three Steelers Pittsburgh

2264
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: by three pickets. Out right.

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01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 4: Picket is playing, I always playing.

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01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 12: Do you.

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01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 4: Have we gotten anything from Alex No?

2268
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 5: No, yeah, we'll get over well I do.

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01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 7: Man's playing basketball to this kid, but man's playing footballs.

2271
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 7: That was one of the great Alex all right, So

2272
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:29,400
Speaker 7: I know Pickett banged up like Levis four touchdowns last week.

2273
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 5: Man Rabel Just when I think I'm out.

2274
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 4: Playing, just likely he's just you know, he's just like

2275
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 4: saying random words.

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01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 5: That's why I kind of down.

2277
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:43,679
Speaker 4: I was working through taking.

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01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take Tennessee Michael Frable, Uh, get right when

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01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 7: I get out.

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01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 4: Okay, I do have I do have a comment. A

2281
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 4: statement from Alexandra Francisco quote. I regret to announce that

2282
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 4: I cannot make today's show due to an untimely meeting

2283
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 4: schedule during Picks. I look forward to returning next week

2284
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 4: to uphold my strong gambling performances and thank the listeners

2285
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 4: for the support they've shown. Thus far go pass.

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01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 5: She's taking a victory last rugs.

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01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 4: Much My picks are as follows. She has Pittsburgh both ways.

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01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 3: Okay, Pittsburgh's at home. Yeah, yeah, I'm taking Pittsburgh. I'm

2289
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 3: getting ready for Germany. Yeah, Pittsburgh, I did. Both These

2290
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 3: teams are weird though, because like they both win games

2291
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 3: they're not supposed to win, and like I can't I

2292
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 3: don't know so, but I'm taking Pittsburgh at home.

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01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. It is probably two of the screwiest teams that

2294
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:34,639
Speaker 4: you know. They're not terrible, they're just kind of Midland.

2295
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 4: But I will take Pittsburgh as well.

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01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 1: I think they ride the wave a little bit. I think,

2297
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 1: you know, big four touchdown performance by the new guy,

2298
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 1: I think it kind of lifts all the boats. And

2299
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 1: I think the Titans, at least for another week, are

2300
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 1: riding that wave. Yeah. I'm gonna go with the Titans

2301
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 1: Sunday morning, nine to thirty in Frankfurt. Next week. They're

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01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: warm up the stadium for US. The sixth and two

2303
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 1: Dolphins are technically at the six and two Chiefs because

2304
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are the host host team.

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01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,719
Speaker 4: Kansas City is favored by one and a half. Kansas

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01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 4: City is favored by one and a half.

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01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 7: Great game, great for us. I mean, you're not gonna

2308
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 7: be well, you're not to leave though, you're not gonna

2309
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 7: be able to watch a lot of it, probably, Paul,

2310
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 7: But but but.

2311
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:22,560
Speaker 4: We will get some of it.

2312
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 7: You know in the morning, you're gonna get here early

2313
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 7: to watch it. And you give me this frown upside down,

2314
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 7: But we'll be watching it.

2315
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to Miami.

2316
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Miami, a me from like.

2317
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 4: Alex likes Kansas City, of course she does.

2318
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 3: I am taking Miami. I think they're better than the

2319
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 3: Chiefs right now. The Chiefs offense is in a tough

2320
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 3: spot and I'm very this is big. The ALL twenty

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01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 3: two from Germany. What's it going to look like?

2322
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 5: Will it have ALL twenty two?

2323
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 2: Well?

2324
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 3: Is it gonna come in timely? Or is it going

2325
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:57,839
Speaker 3: to be delayed?

2326
01:40:58,680 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 4: Most of what's the metric converse?

2327
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, Paul, but it's stressing me out, man.

2328
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 5: How many meters? This is hashtag Evan problems.

2329
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 3: So Monday, Monday, you know, I'm pulling up that ALL

2330
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 3: twenty two from Dolphins Chiefs not to watch it, just

2331
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:13,879
Speaker 3: to make sure.

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01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 5: Just because it will be an epic random like, I'm

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01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 5: gonna take Miami too.

2334
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 4: I actually thought, and this might be silly on my

2335
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 4: part based on the offense that they played, but I

2336
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 4: thought that Miami defense was impressive at times last week,

2337
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 4: and I think they're they're maybe starting to come together

2338
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 4: under Vic Fangio. I think they can get healthier if

2339
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 4: they can get Holler. I don't know if Holland and

2340
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 4: Howard are playing, but I can see pieces on that

2341
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 4: defense of them being better in the second half than

2342
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 4: they were in the first. I'm gonna take Miami.

2343
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,759
Speaker 1: I thought i'd be on an island. I'm picking Miami.

2344
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 1: I thought everyone was gonna pick the Chiefs except for Alex.

2345
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm this is a want game, though. I

2346
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 1: want the Dolphins to win this game because the Chiefs,

2347
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 1: you know, are our rival in Germany got to knocked around.

2348
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 1: Do you remember when.

2349
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 4: Fred used to pick games based on like what was

2350
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 4: best for the Patriots and now it doesn't.

2351
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 1: I just explained this is better for them.

2352
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the team, like the the wins and loss.

2353
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 4: I know you now, I give you credit.

2354
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 1: You've grown. I'm looking to the future. You've grown and

2355
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 1: the future is Germany. I think.

2356
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 3: I think Miami might be the best team in the league.

2357
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, could be, sure, could be.

2358
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 1: Let's see one o'clock. The four and four Vikings are

2359
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 1: at the four and four.

2360
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 4: Falcons Atlanta by four and a half.

2361
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 5: All right, So who's the quarterback from Minnesota now?

2362
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 3: With poor I forget that guy, Sharon Hall from by

2363
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 3: kind of Light Yeah, mid rounds. Yeah, well, the Falcons

2364
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 3: are starting Taylor Heineke, so it's not much.

2365
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 5: Better easy slam dunk. I don't know. I'm gonna go

2366
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 5: with Atlanta at home.

2367
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 4: What was this spread? Four and a half?

2368
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Atlanta at home.

2369
01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 4: Not sure why so Alex. Alex likes the Falcons too,

2370
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:01,719
Speaker 4: so Atlanta both ways.

2371
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Atlanta both ways as well. I just

2372
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what the Vikings are going to look

2373
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 3: like now, and I until they I see it, I

2374
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 3: have to not pick them.

2375
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2376
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 4: I was tempted to take the four and a half,

2377
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 4: but I don't know if I can do that with

2378
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 4: the guy that I don't know him really much about

2379
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 4: in Hall. So I will take the Falcons.

2380
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:21,839
Speaker 3: He's sneaky, athletic, I know him from college.

2381
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 4: I mean like Falcons for Freddy.

2382
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 1: Sunday at one, five and two Seahawks at the six

2383
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 1: and two.

2384
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 4: Ravens Baltimore by six.

2385
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 5: Oh, I like that spread. I'm gonna take Baltimore by

2386
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:37,719
Speaker 5: six on that home.

2387
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 1: It's really only three and you know the right if

2388
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 1: they like them.

2389
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 3: I love Baltimore. I think that team's a good team.

2390
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson's grade, So I'm taking Baltimore. That's it, Lamark scene,

2391
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 3: I just screwed up.

2392
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:54,799
Speaker 4: Sorry, Alex. I will also take Baltimore both ways. Alex

2393
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 4: takes the Ravens to win, but Seattle to cover.

2394
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 1: What is the She's cagy the sharp. I'm gonna take

2395
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 1: the Ravens both ways. Sunday at one the one in

2396
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 1: seven Cardinals are at the four and three Browns.

2397
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 4: Uh, Cleveland by eight.

2398
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,959
Speaker 1: When's the last time Cleveland is an eight point favorite anywhere.

2399
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take Cleveland to win, but I'm gonna take

2400
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 7: the eight points for Arizona.

2401
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 4: Can someone look up and see who's playing quarterback? Is

2402
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 4: it gonna be Clayton Tune for Arizona? I believe so, Alex.

2403
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 4: Alex likes the Browns, but she's taking the points.

2404
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 1: Oh, she's really thinking about this.

2405
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 3: Well, she's got a lead now, so he can't leave.

2406
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 3: Don't want to be the Falcons. I'm gonna take the Browns,

2407
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 3: but I am also gonna take the Toun squad to cover,

2408
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 3: just because that's a big spread for the Browns.

2409
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take Cleveland both ways because of the

2410
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 4: Tune squad.

2411
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 5: They've been a little little cag online.

2412
01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I also, I mean if Mauray plays, would

2413
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 4: would definitely be taking the points. But Arizona's had a

2414
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:06,639
Speaker 4: knack of scoring late to get some back door covers.

2415
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 4: But I don't think they'll be able to do it

2416
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:08,800
Speaker 4: with Clayton Tune.

2417
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could score as little as twenty

2418
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 1: points and cover that eight point spread in this game.

2419
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with the Browns both ways. One

2420
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 1: o'clock Fox, three and five rams. Stafford's really washed at

2421
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 1: the two and five packer.

2422
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 3: He's got a thumb thing.

2423
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got his ring. Three and five rams at

2424
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 1: the two and five packers.

2425
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 4: Green Bay by three and a half.

2426
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 5: Man, This is a tough one. Is green base and

2427
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 5: playing like trash. Yeah, I'm gonna take I'm gonna take.

2428
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 1: The Rams take the Rams, So who's cing for them?

2429
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 5: I don't even know.

2430
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 3: I think Stafford is like trying to play through it

2431
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 3: and he's kind of one of those guys that does

2432
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 3: so I don't know.

2433
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:54,720
Speaker 4: So who's your take.

2434
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Rams.

2435
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 4: Okay, she I'm trying to Okay, she's taking green Bay,

2436
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 4: but she's taking the points. You're taking the Rams outright? Please?

2437
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna take the Rams. But in a field

2438
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 3: goal game, so it's three and a half, right the hoof.

2439
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. The Rams take the upset in this.

2440
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 4: The Rams win outright. So you guys are thinking that

2441
01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:18,560
Speaker 4: Stafford's playing, I don't know. I just just believe in

2442
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 4: that that Packers team has been Yeah, I'm gonna take

2443
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 4: green Bay because I don't think. I don't think he's

2444
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 4: going to play. If he played, I would take them,

2445
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 4: but I won't. I'll take the Packers.

2446
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna split the difference. I'll take the Packers

2447
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 1: and the I'll take the points. Sunday at one three

2448
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 1: and four, Buccaneers are at the three and four Texans.

2449
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 4: Houston by two and a half.

2450
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 5: That's a tough one cross conference battle here.

2451
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 4: I'm having such a hard time finding the games on

2452
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 4: Alex's thing.

2453
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 3: Because she's using a different order, right.

2454
01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 1: She's used in Houston instead of Texans.

2455
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 4: There, I found it.

2456
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with Tampa Bay on

2457
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:01,679
Speaker 5: the road with an upset.

2458
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 4: Alex likes Houston to win, but she takes the points.

2459
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:13,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Houston to win as well. I didn't

2460
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 3: really think the Bucks played all that well against Buffalo,

2461
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna take them to cover as well.

2462
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 4: The Texans.

2463
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I'm gonna take it Texans both ways.

2464
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 1: I like Baker, you know, let's let Baker bake. But

2465
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't look good. He's so inaccurate, you know.

2466
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 4: I'm also going to take Houston. Care what I took? Evan,

2467
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 4: Did you take it? What did you take?

2468
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:35,599
Speaker 3: I took the Texans both ways?

2469
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 1: Both ways too?

2470
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 4: All right?

2471
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 1: Sunday at one, the two and six Bears are at

2472
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:42,480
Speaker 1: the four and four Saints.

2473
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 4: New Orleans by eight and a half.

2474
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 5: Goodness, gracious, big number. Montese sweat coming for you there,

2475
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 5: Derek Carr see a terrible commentary today.

2476
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 7: I'm going to take New Orleans at home, and I'm

2477
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 7: gonna actually lay all those points.

2478
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 4: I don't think Alex took this one.

2479
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 3: Also, do you want me to look at Alex's He's

2480
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 3: got a lot going on over there. I'm just trying

2481
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 3: to help out.

2482
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:16,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't find it. Okay, New Orleans both ways

2483
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 4: for deuced Yes, please, I'm gonna take New Orleans, but

2484
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 4: I don't think they're good enough to cover an eight

2485
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:25,840
Speaker 4: point spread, so I'm taking the Bearers to cover. I

2486
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:27,880
Speaker 4: will take New Orleans both ways.

2487
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the same, New Orleans both ways. All right. Now,

2488
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 1: we skip over the Patriots at one o'clock and we

2489
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 1: go to four oh five, of which there's one game.

2490
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 1: The three and five Colts are at.

2491
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 4: Just so you know she didn't take it. She did

2492
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 4: the Patriots twice.

2493
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,600
Speaker 1: Oh okay, the three and five Colts are at the

2494
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 1: one and six Panthers. Who did you take in the

2495
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 1: last game for Saints both ways?

2496
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 4: Okay, Colts Panthers, Colts by three.

2497
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 7: That's six three Patriots facing the Colts next week in Germany. Oh, Tanka,

2498
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take the Colts on the road and I

2499
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 7: will lay the points.

2500
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Colts, and I think they cover

2501
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 3: as wells.

2502
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,880
Speaker 4: Colts. Yeah, Alex likes the Colts both ways. I do

2503
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 4: as well. I think the Panthers got that big win

2504
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 4: to get off the Schneid pressures off for a little bit.

2505
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:29,599
Speaker 4: Colts win.

2506
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Colts both ways. Four two and six Giants are

2507
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 1: at the three and five Raiders.

2508
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 4: This is not one for the faint of heart.

2509
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 7: Uh.

2510
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 4: The Raiders by one and a half.

2511
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:46,639
Speaker 1: Wow. That tells you what they think of the Giants.

2512
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2513
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 7: Man, and they're they're falling apart. I this is tough,

2514
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 7: especially at home. Now, you know what, At some point,

2515
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 7: I feel like Brian Dable's gonna get something out of

2516
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 7: his team. I will take the Giants in the up.

2517
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Raiders because you know that

2518
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 3: game after you fire your coach, sometimes it goes the

2519
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:09,760
Speaker 3: other way. Sometimes it rallies the.

2520
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:10,599
Speaker 4: Troops the new coach.

2521
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 3: Finally, remember Jeff Saturday beat the Raiders last year in

2522
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 3: his first game.

2523
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: I do remember. So that was among the list of

2524
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,759
Speaker 1: things that spelled McDaniel's demise.

2525
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 3: So I am going to take the Raiders.

2526
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 4: Me.

2527
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 3: I think the Raiders win this game, and they think

2528
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 3: the Raiders even cover this game.

2529
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,040
Speaker 4: That's what I got all right. I will take the

2530
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:34,639
Speaker 4: Giants because I think the Giants defense has figured something out,

2531
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 4: if nothing else, and the way the Raiders play offense,

2532
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 4: I think it could be a long day for Aiden O'Connell.

2533
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, who was, They're still playing.

2534
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm for the reason Evan pointed out. I'm gonna pick

2535
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:51,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders. They get that new coach bump. You know,

2536
01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 1: it's that new car smell type of thing, and I think,

2537
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, at least for this week, they play hard

2538
01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:01,000
Speaker 1: and they beat the Giants. For the five and two

2539
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:02,879
Speaker 1: Cowboys are at the seven.

2540
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 4: And one, Eagles Philly by three.

2541
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 5: Good game, three, Yeah, this is a good game.

2542
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 4: There's some good games in the windows this week, that

2543
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:13,560
Speaker 4: being one of them. The Sunday night game is just

2544
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:16,479
Speaker 4: pretty good. Bad the morning games, it's not.

2545
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 7: Really a great game. The morning game, the four twenty

2546
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 7: are all great. I'm gonna go with Philly at home,

2547
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 7: good divisional battle out of lay the points.

2548
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 4: Alex likes the why can I not Eagles both ways?

2549
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 4: Having a real hard time finding the games. Is not

2550
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 4: as young as he used to be.

2551
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Eagles. I can't pick a

2552
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 3: push right because I feel like three is exactly what

2553
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 3: it's gonna be. But I'll pick the Eagles to cover

2554
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,240
Speaker 3: at home. I the Eagles, I haven't really played their

2555
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 3: best football and they're still seven and one that that

2556
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 3: would be scary if I was a contender.

2557
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:59,639
Speaker 4: I will take the Eagles both ways as well. Good

2558
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 4: division game, one of the rare division games that I

2559
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:05,960
Speaker 4: actually would would probably be interested in watching. Be a good,

2560
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 4: good one for us on red Zone, Mike, He'll keep

2561
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:08,759
Speaker 4: you updated.

2562
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 1: Eagles both ways, Eagles both ways in this game. Just

2563
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 1: always love to see the Cowboys lose eight twenty on

2564
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 1: en be sure five and three Bills are at the

2565
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 1: four and three Bengals Bengals hot, getting hot, you don't

2566
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 1: like it.

2567
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:28,680
Speaker 5: Bengals by two, Bengals by two, Yeah, I agree. Joe

2568
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:29,720
Speaker 5: Burrow coming on.

2569
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 7: I think they've got the team to, you know, expose

2570
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:34,720
Speaker 7: some of the problems that they're having in Buffalo. So

2571
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take Cincy and I'll lay the points at home.

2572
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:41,679
Speaker 4: Il Oh. Sorry, Alex. Alex likes the Bengals both ways

2573
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 4: as well.

2574
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 3: I like the Bengals both ways too. I think they're

2575
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:46,600
Speaker 3: they're starting to come on. Joe Burrow played out of

2576
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 3: his mind in that game last week, and so did

2577
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:51,599
Speaker 3: the offensive line. Good good game for Teddy Carris, good job.

2578
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,640
Speaker 4: Old friend, shut out front of the Yeah. I like

2579
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 4: the Bengals in this game. Too too much offense against

2580
01:52:57,920 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 4: that banged up defense.

2581
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 1: The Bills win the game just because I have to.

2582
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:05,800
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, is that what you actually think?

2583
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 1: No, I think the Bengals are gonna win.

2584
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 4: I think Buffalo could win. I just don't think that

2585
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 4: they have the horses.

2586
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:15,719
Speaker 1: I'm picking the Bills. I'm picking the Bills. Go Go Buffalo,

2587
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 1: eight fifteen Monday Night, ABC, ESPN, ESPN two, ESPN Deportes

2588
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 1: and Yeah, three and four Chargers are at the four

2589
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 1: and three Jets. Who would have thought the Jets without

2590
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers.

2591
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 4: That have a better record than the not me, not

2592
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 4: me for sure Jets. Sorry, the Chargers by three and

2593
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 4: a half m.

2594
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 5: I don't know, guys. I'm gonna go with the freaking Jets,

2595
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 5: the freaking Jets and their defense, I'm gonna go with them.

2596
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:47,679
Speaker 5: I'll take those points.

2597
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 3: This is a tough one, huh.

2598
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:54,639
Speaker 4: Alex has taken the Chargers both ways.

2599
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the better quarterback. I'm

2600
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 3: gonnake the char but I think that the Jets cover.

2601
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 3: I think it's a field goal game.

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01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. I will take the Chargers to win,

2603
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:08,960
Speaker 4: but I think the Chargers just by contract, have to

2604
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:10,519
Speaker 4: keep the other team in the game the whole way.

2605
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 4: So I'll take the points.

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01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,600
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and take the Chargers both ways. Why not?

2607
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:19,120
Speaker 1: Why not? Now we go back to Sunday at one

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01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 1: and the three and five Commanders are at the two

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01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 1: and six Patriots.

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01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 4: Patriots by three three.

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01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 7: All right, I don't love myself for not picking the

2612
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 7: Patriots here, but I'm gonna go with Washington. I just

2613
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 7: I think but they're passing game. They're gonna chuck the

2614
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 7: ball down the field. They'll make some mistakes, but I

2615
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 7: think they'll make more plays down the field than the

2616
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 7: Patriots are going to make, and I think that will

2617
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 7: be the difference. Unfortunately, I'm gonna take the Commanders twenty

2618
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 7: seven twenty three.

2619
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 4: Alex takes the Patriots twenty four to seventeen. So Patriots

2620
01:54:58,440 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 4: and cover.

2621
01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:03,000
Speaker 3: I have, I think picked the Patriots wrong, maybe every

2622
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 3: week in the last months, So don't take my word

2623
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 3: for it. But I'm with Mike on this. I worry

2624
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 3: about the Commanders. I think that they have some things

2625
01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 3: in this matchup that favor them pretty heavily, like the

2626
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:18,879
Speaker 3: passing games and the interior pressure by those two defensive tackles.

2627
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 3: So I'm taking Washington to win this game, as much

2628
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 3: as that pains me to think that the Patriots can't

2629
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 3: take care of business at home, but I'm gonna take

2630
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 3: Washington twenty to seventeen. I think they just make a

2631
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 3: few more plays.

2632
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 4: So, Freddie, I'm gonna surprise you a little bit. I

2633
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 4: didn't expect to be the lone voice on the panel.

2634
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 4: I will take the Patriots to win this game for

2635
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 4: the reason that Mike said very early in the show

2636
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 4: before we got sidetracked with the Belichick to Washington discussion

2637
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 4: the turnovers. I think that Sam Howell is pressured in

2638
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:58,640
Speaker 4: this game too many sacks and mistakes, maybe not even

2639
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 4: just turnovers, but negative plays. I think the Patriots have

2640
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:03,800
Speaker 4: enough to win twenty three to twenty.

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01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 1: Paul, I'm joining you.

2642
01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 4: I didn't see that. I don't know about you, guys,

2643
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:12,360
Speaker 4: but I didn't see it coming. I didn't see it.

2644
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 1: Paul's being funny. Uh yeah, Defense to the rescue. This

2645
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 1: game twenty one to ten Patriots.

2646
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 7: I totally agree with you guys though. If the Patriots

2647
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 7: are gonna win, that's that's how they do it. They

2648
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 7: multiple interceptions, maybe you pick six, you know, like misforcing.

2649
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 4: That's exactly what the Giants defensive scores.

2650
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 3: My concern is that that Howel's just it's not gonna matter.

2651
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 3: And like he could get sacks six times in this game,

2652
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 3: but but he's just going to keep making some plays. Okay,

2653
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 3: that's my concern. We'll see pressure, pressure, pep.

2654
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 1: We'll see who's ringing the bell.

2655
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 4: Sounds like you. I don't know.

2656
01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 1: I have no idea to it, Alex. Maybe maybe the

2657
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 1: winner or the leader of this thing gets to ring

2658
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 1: it every every week.

2659
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 5: All right, let's run that up the flag.

2660
01:56:56,560 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 1: Okay. All right. As for us, we've got pregame social,

2661
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:06,480
Speaker 1: the game, and the postgame show, and then we'll see

2662
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 1: you next Tuesday.

2663
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 5: Oh we won't. We'll see it, ohk Thursday.

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01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:13,800
Speaker 1: Stop stop stop the presses. Yeah, so a programming note,

2665
01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 1: no show Tuesday or Wednesday next week traveling to Germany

2666
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Will have shows on Thursday and Friday live

2667
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 1: from Frankfurt, same time. Twelve o'clock Eastern, so we'll talk

2668
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:31,960
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01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:35,480
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01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:39,080
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