1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from how 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm Sarah Dowry and I'm to blaying a chocolate boarding 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: And even though October maybe over, there's no harm in 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: extending the thrill a little bit into November. We're not 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: going spooky with this episode. We're not going scary. But 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: it is a pretty intriguing mystery and it's also a 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: listener favorite. It's been pitched to us. I just scanned 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: through my email to find a few names. It's been 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: pitched to us by Daniel, Annie, Megan Kate, and many others, 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: and no wonder it's a great story. It features one 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: of the best selling authors of the twentieth century, Agatha Christie, who, 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: of course is famous for timeless characters like Quel poiro 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: and Ms. Marple. She's known for stories like and Then 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: There Were None, kind of a middle school reading list, April, 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: plays like The Mouth Trap, film adaptations like Murder The 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Orient Express. She has a very interesting life in her 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: own right. Today, more than one billion of her books 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: have been printed in English, and she's been translated into 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: more languages than Shakespeare. Christie fans celebrate her birthdate with 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: a week long festival, going on treasure hunts, attending murder 22 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: mystery nights. But what really gets Christy Buff's truly excited 23 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: is the mystery that smack dab in the middle of 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: her own life. For a period of eleven days in 25 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: nineteen six, the Queen of Crime disappeared, just vanished into 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: thin air, just like a character in one of her books, 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: and the disappearance brought out sluice like author Cone and Doyle. 28 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: It made her book sales skyrocket, and naturally it became 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: an international news story. So we'll start with an excerpt 30 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: from a special cable to The New York Times dated 31 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: December eleventh, ninety six. It's even paced like a detective 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: novel with its own clues, so it's starts with the 33 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: all caps headline police are baffled by Christie Mystery. British 34 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: search vainly for a week for a clue to American 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: born writer's disappearance, and then it goes on to the 36 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: body of the article. Though it's a whole week since 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: she disappeared, there is still no clue tonight as to 38 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: the whereabouts of missus Agatha Christie. The American born writer 39 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: of English detective stories. The country around New One's Corner, 40 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: where her car was found on Saturday morning, has been 41 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: exhaustively searched by hundreds of police and volunteer helpers, and 42 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: inquiries have been made far afield without success. A great 43 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: deal of interest was excited by the revelation today that 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: before leaving her home, Mrs Christie wrote three letters. The 45 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: first was to her secretary. The police thought it had 46 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: been destroyed, but it had been found and handed to them. 47 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: Its most significant passage was quote, I must get away. 48 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: I cannot stay here in sending Dale much longer. The 49 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: second letter was to Mrs Christie's brother in law. This 50 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: letter has been destroyed. The third letter was addressed to 51 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: Colonel Christie himself and was unposted. Colonel Christie refused to 52 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: reveal its content, stating it was of a personal note. 53 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: So I think the person who sent this dispatch might 54 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: have had aspirations for writing to text choiceiles himself. But 55 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: I just thought that gives a pretty good set up 56 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: for what was going on, how excited and interested people 57 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: were about this story, and it really does set up 58 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: the premise of the disappearance pretty well too. Was this 59 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: a murder? Was it suicide? The husband sounds kind of 60 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: suspicious with this, refusing to reveal the letter's content. Was 61 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: it a publicity stunt? She is, after all, the best 62 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: selling author. But to understand why murder or suicide seemed likely, 63 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: why the husband seemed suspicious, why this was an international 64 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: story in the first place, we have to discuss some 65 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: of Christie's pre disappearance life, which fortunately is pretty interesting 66 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: in and of itself. So just to set the scene 67 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: in ninety six, Christie was an immensely famous crime writer, 68 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: but only recently so. She'd published her first novel, The 69 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: Mysterious Affair at Styles, at age thirty in nineteen twenty. 70 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: The New York Times headline calling her an American born 71 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: writer is a bit misleading. To Christie, who had been 72 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: born Agatha Miller in Torquay, Devon, England, had an American father, 73 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: a gentleman who didn't have to work, and who had 74 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: married his English step cousin. She was pretty thoroughly English, 75 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: though she grew up in a bustling country home. Her 76 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: parents were busy socialites. She was much younger than her 77 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: brother and sister, who were usually off at school by 78 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: the time she came around, her mother didn't really think 79 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: kids should go to school or even really be educated, 80 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: and she was notated on by her grandmother. Is one 81 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: of my favorite stories that was detailed in the Women 82 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: in World History Encyclopedia about young Agatha was playing chicken 83 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: with her grandmother. That's not what you think, playing chicken, 84 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: like with cars or something. She'd actually pretend to be 85 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: a chicken. Her grandmother would pretend to go to the store, 86 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: pick out a young spring chicken, dress up the chicken, 87 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: put it in the oven, and then Agatha would be like, surprised, 88 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm actually the chicken. Sounded like a cute game. She was, 89 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: by all accounts, a very imaginative child, had a lot 90 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: of imaginary friends, had a lot of stories that she 91 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: would play out by herself. But by the age of 92 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: her debut, you know, her sister had debuted in New York, 93 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: she would have been expected to do similarly or debut 94 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: in London. At that point, family fortunes had changed. Her 95 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: father had passed away, and Agatha's mother really enjoyed travel, 96 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: so the family ended up living in Cairo, and that's 97 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: where Agatha had her debut to society. Kind of a 98 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: nice hint at her later adventurous life. Really, she published poems, 99 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: wrote short stories and a novel, and flew in a 100 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: plane in nineteen o nine, and she turned down many 101 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: proposals before she finally accepted one from Reggie Lucy. In 102 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: nineteen twelve, though she met a pilot, Archie Christie. They 103 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: fell in love and she wrote to Reggie to break 104 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: off their engagement and married Archie Christmas Eve in nineteen 105 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: fourteen when he was home on a two day leave 106 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: from the Flying Corps. Agatha, who started the war working 107 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: as a volunteer nurse, eventually went to work in hospital dispensary, 108 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: picking up a good understanding of poisons while she was there. 109 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: In her downtime she started a detective story and that 110 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 1: was the mysterious affair at Styles which we mentioned earlier. 111 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: And you know, the war finally ended. She and Archie 112 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: had a daughter named Rosalind in nineteen nineteen, and then 113 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: in nineteen twenties she finally got that book published and 114 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: um not too long after that, her husband had the 115 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: opportunity to go on a world tour. She went with him. 116 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: They visited South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Hawaii, Canada. She 117 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: kept writing the whole time, though, and even when they 118 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: were back in England, kept at it, finally powering her 119 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: way through her original five book commitment to a pretty 120 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: bad initial publishing deal before debuting the Murder of Roger 121 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: Ackroyd with Collins in nine and that was the story 122 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: that really put her on the map, really made her name. 123 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: She was popular before then that she was the best 124 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: seller at this point. Privately, though, it wasn't a great 125 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: year for her. No, it actually turned out to be 126 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: kind of disastrous. Before the debut of her book, her 127 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: mother contracted bronchitis and eventually died from it. Archie, who 128 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: had been away when Agatha's mother got sick, pretty much 129 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: just left her to deal with the illness and death alone, 130 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: since he didn't care much for trouble and illness. When 131 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: he finally returned to his wife, he announced that he 132 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: had taken up with a much younger woman named Nancy 133 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: Neil and wanted a divorce from Agatha. The couple separated, 134 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: but leading up to the disappearance they temporarily reconciled during 135 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: what Christy later called quote a period of sorrow, misery, 136 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: and heartbreak. In her autobiography. Then we get to the 137 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: Fateful day, December three. Agatha and Archie had had a 138 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: fight at their home. After the fight, Christie went upstairs, 139 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: kissed her sleeping daughter, and left the house at PM 140 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: in her car. Her car was later found crashed down 141 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: a slope and abandoned near Guildford in Surrey. There was 142 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: no trace of her, no hint of where she had gone, 143 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: and consequently, soon hundreds of volunteers were joining the police 144 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: search parties out looking for this famous writer. The Daily 145 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: News offered a one hundred pound reward for information on 146 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: her whereabouts. That was a pretty considerable reward for the time, 147 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: and a few theories quickly popped up. The first was 148 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: that she was murdered or kidnapped. So, I mean, the 149 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: circumstances certainly suggested something like that her car just abandoned. 150 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: The disappearance of another somewhat high profile woman named Una 151 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: Crow just a few days later made this theme a 152 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: little more likely. Or judging by her situation with Archie, 153 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: it seemed he could have somehow been involved in that 154 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: strange note she left him ustrated. Yeah, it orchestrated her 155 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: disappearance in some way, so that was the first suspected 156 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: cause of her disappearance. Another theory is that she had 157 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: died by suicide. After all, the troubled relationship between she 158 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: and her husband might have led to a mental state 159 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: that would have caused her to do so. The death 160 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: of her mother also compounded things. She was known to 161 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: be in a troubled state basically, so people assumed that 162 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: this could be a possibility. Her car had also been 163 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: found near the Silent Pool, which was a place with 164 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: a history of death where she could have drowned herself. 165 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: And then the final probably the most unexpected possible cause 166 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: for her disappearance, she was missing on purpose. It was 167 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: a publicity stunt. According to a New York Time article 168 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: from December twelve of that year, her secretary dismissed this 169 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: assumption out of hand. She said, quote, it is ridiculous. 170 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: Mrs Christie is much too quite a lady for that. 171 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: She never for a moment would think of causing all 172 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: this sorrow and suspense only in her books, right. So 173 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: Christie enthusiasts even suggested that maybe they should look at 174 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: the latest manuscript, maybe there would be a clue in 175 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: the manuscript. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, as Debilina mentioned, got 176 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: into the mix. He took one of Christie's gloves to 177 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: a medium to attempt to find it. You know, we've 178 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: discussed spiritual We discussed that before, talked about that one 179 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: a lot comes up in every other episode, and Dorothy 180 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: Sayer has even got involved. She visited the disappearance site 181 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: worked it into a later story. So this is a 182 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: huge international story with all these famous names involved and 183 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: people really treating it with the enthusiasm of mystery enthusiasts. 184 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: I mean to put it in a sort of silly way, 185 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: looking for clues, looking at the missing gloves or the 186 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: found gloves, all of that, and then suddenly, just like that, 187 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: she was found safe and found by a saxophonist. Yeah. 188 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: She'd been at the Hydro Hotel in Harrogan, Yorkshire since 189 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: the day of her disappearance, staying under the name Teresa Neil. 190 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: Yes you, if you have been paying attention, that is 191 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: the same last name as her husband's mistress. Her room 192 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: was filled with detective novels borrowed from a local library, 193 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: and apparently she had been a model patron there, chatting 194 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: with other guests, even singing and dancing. She certainly never 195 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: seemed to notice the newspapers, which had her face plastered 196 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: all over the far page. So two new theories developed. 197 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: You know, what's going on with this lady? Why was 198 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: she here? Why didn't she notice these things? Why didn't 199 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: she realize she was missing and people were looking for her? 200 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: The first was that she'd suffered memory loss from the 201 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: car crash. The second was a little more than a 202 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: she'd planned the whole thing, either as a publicity stunt, 203 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: as we already discussed, or to mess with her husband, 204 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: to put all this suspicion on him, and also to 205 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: thwart his plans to spend a weekend with his mistress. 206 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: Archie seemed to go with the former assumption that this 207 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: was a memory law situation. Yeah, he collected her from 208 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: the hydro and then released the statement quote, my wife 209 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: is far too ill to be worried. How she got 210 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: to Harrigant. She doesn't know except that she got there 211 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: by train. She has a faint idea that she is 212 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: Mrs Christie, and that I am not her brother as 213 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: she first thought, but her husband. So this seemed to 214 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: imply that she was indeed suffering from memory loss and 215 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: probably needed some medical help. Christie didn't elaborate on it 216 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: herself at the time or in later life. She never 217 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: really talked about this incident at all. In her autobiography, 218 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: she described the episode like this so ended my first 219 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: married life. That's it. She and Archie did divorce not 220 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: too long after this, in April, but that's it. That's 221 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: all she had to say about it. But she also 222 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: wrote something that could possibly rule out the publicity stunt 223 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: angle um When she was on her way home from 224 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: the spa where she had been found, crowds of people 225 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: followed her train home, and she said, of that quote, 226 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: I felt like a fox hunted my earth's dug up 227 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: and yelping hounds following me everywhere. It doesn't exactly sound 228 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: like someone who wants the attention. No, And then just 229 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: the the statements from people who did know her well 230 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: and knew her as a very private person who was 231 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: doing quite well in her book sales. Anyway, if you 232 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: kind of rule out that as a possibility, then what 233 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: really happened? Why did she leave her car? Why didn't 234 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: she realize people were looking for her? What happened? It's 235 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: a good question because at the time, not everyone bought 236 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: that amnesia excuse. A Times article from December nineteen quoted 237 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: specialists and experts who suggested that if she had been 238 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: in such a state, if she had had temporary amnesia, 239 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: she would have been so obviously distressed it would be noticeable. 240 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: One quote from that article read quote another authority, whose 241 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: contributions to the pathology of the mind have earned knighthood 242 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: for him gave it as his firm conviction that a 243 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: person suffering from loss of memory could not act in 244 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: a normal manner nor mix within the public without arousing 245 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: suspicions of insanity. Insanity. So in two thousand six, though, 246 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: the expert opinion had changed a little bit and a 247 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,239 Speaker 1: new theory emerged, one that was put forward by biographer 248 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: Andrew Norman and covered in The Guardian, and that is 249 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: that Christie could have been in a fugue state, which 250 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: is a disorder defined by the DSM flour. It's also 251 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: known as a psychogenic trance or reversible amnesia. Essentially, it's 252 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: an out of body state brought on by stress, one 253 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: where you can't recognize yourself as being you. According to Norman, quote, 254 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: this kind of fugue state, which is much better understood 255 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: these days, fits the symptoms that Christie showed during her 256 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: stay in harrog It. So namely, those symptoms would be 257 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: packing up, suddenly dish in her car, sudden travel, essentially 258 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: taking on a new name and functioning under it, functioning 259 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: under this Mrs Nel who I believe was supposed to 260 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: be from South Africa and seeming to the other hotel 261 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: guests to be a totally normal lady, and then finally 262 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: not recognizing herself in photos. She just had completely taken 263 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: herself out of her own identity. So this is one 264 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: of the main barries today of what really happened to 265 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: Agatha Christie, although, of course, especially since she never really 266 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: wrote about it, and maybe because she didn't know what 267 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: happened anyway, we're never really going to know exactly what 268 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: went down. But what we do know is that this 269 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: bizarre interlude in Christie's life didn't slow down her output 270 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: at all. She kept writing, and the year after her 271 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: divorce she traveled alone to Damascus and Baghdad. She took 272 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: the Orient Express to Istanbul. She even visited the archaeological 273 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: side at her There she met Leonard Woolley, who was 274 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: leading excavations, and came back in March nineteen thirty to 275 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: see more of the dig. On that second trip, she 276 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: met Woolly's assistant, Max Mlowen, who was fourteen years younger 277 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: than her, and Allowen took Christie on a desert tour 278 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: and they finally ended up in Athens. When they got there, 279 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: Christie got the bad news that her daughter was ill, 280 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: and since Christie had badly sprained her ankle and Athens, 281 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: Max decided to escort her all the way back home 282 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: to England and they were married by September of that 283 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: year and apparently had a very romantic relationship to for 284 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: for the rest of her life. From that point on, 285 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: Christie split her time between writing at home in England 286 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: and writing abroad while she would travel with her husband 287 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: on these archaeological digs. She got pretty good at field 288 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: work herself too. She would clean, she would document items, 289 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: she would photograph find, she would set up a little 290 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: desert on site dark rooms to to develop her film 291 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: and photos. And the Women in World History Encyclopedia quotes 292 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: Alison Light in Forever, England talking a little bit about 293 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: what it must have been like just a picture of 294 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: Agathe Christie during these days. She wrote quote in order 295 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: To gauge what nostalgia in the work of Agatha Christie 296 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: really means, one needs to imagine her a stout woman 297 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: in her early forties in a hot tent or on 298 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: a dusty veranda, looking across the desert, and settling down 299 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: to write about murder in the vicarage. Pretty quintessentially Christie. 300 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: There she did find an outlet for her non detective 301 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: self too. I didn't know this about her, but she 302 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: wrote six novels under a pseudonym um romantic novels, not 303 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: not romances, but non detective, non thriller novels. She also 304 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: juggled another amusing name problem. When Max Malowen was knighted 305 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: for his work in nineteen sixty eight, Christie became Lady Malowan. However, 306 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: she was made a Dame Commander of the British Empire 307 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: in ninete, meaning that she was Dame Agatha in her 308 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: own right. So they were a rare double knighted couple essentially, 309 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: and she very carefully orchestrated her postumous legacy to We 310 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: talked a bit about her autobiography. We've quoted some things 311 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: from that. She saved it to publish after her death 312 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: as well as the two books that killed off her 313 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: two most famous characters, Poiro and Miss Marple. Even though 314 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: she did have to adjust those plans lightly due to 315 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: her last illness and published Paro's death a month before 316 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: her own. She had some books that were able to 317 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: come out after her death, as she had planned one 318 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: more thing about this legacy that she was concerned about 319 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: and in her privacy that she tried to maintain in 320 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: life too. In two thousand eight, twenty seven reels of 321 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: tape were found in her former home by a grandson. Yeah. 322 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: The tapes included dictation of her life, some of which 323 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: went into the autobiography Christie. This is significant because Christie 324 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: didn't grant many interviews, so their discovery was a pretty 325 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: big deal. It also seemed as though she reused some 326 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: of the tapes since only the last third of her 327 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: life was on them, so she didn't expect them to 328 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: be of any interest to people. UM. So that'll be 329 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: interesting to see if more and more of those are revealed. 330 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: I think the grandson said he wasn't interested in having 331 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: all of it come out because some of it is 332 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: a little hat hazard um, and the autobiography presents things 333 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: in a clearer way. But historians are also thinking, you know, 334 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: there will be some changes to the autobiography perhaps so 335 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: pretty cool find and um a nice conclusion to a 336 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: very strange story, such a romantic, adventurous life. And then 337 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: just this bizarro interlude in the middle which can never 338 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: fully be explained. Um, sort of fitting for her. I 339 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: guess it is she she got to live her own 340 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: mystery novel for for eleven days. There. M M. This 341 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: one wasn't just a letter, though, was it, Sarah. This 342 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: one came with a nice package. Yes, we got presents 343 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: from someone who was on a little bit of a 344 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: journey right when he's on a journey around the world, 345 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: and sent us little souvenirs from her trip listener Tony 346 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: from Hamilton, Australia. She wrote to say that she does 347 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: travel a lot, and she sent us some fun things 348 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: that will make our Christmas trees a little sparklier this year. 349 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: Of both ornaments from Buckingham Palace, you know the beefeaters 350 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: in their hat and mine has a drum to Lena's 351 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: has a little union jack. And then from her native 352 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: Australia to really pretty painted glass globe will of course 353 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: take pictures of these. Oh and how can I forget 354 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: we got Buckingham Palace face cow. That's true. In case 355 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: we work up with sweat podcasting, you know, we can 356 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: dab our foreheads a little bit. It's always good to 357 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: have a towel on hand. So thank you very much 358 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: listener Tony, very sweet of you to think of us 359 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: while you're traveling around the world. And any of you 360 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: who have suggestions places you visited, you know this Agatha 361 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: Christie one, like I said, was a listeners suggestion, um, 362 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: but a few other places or for instance, is one 363 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: that has been suggested by listeners before. All you have 364 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: to do is email us. We are at History Podcast 365 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: at Discovery dot com. We are also at missed in 366 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: History on Twitter and we're on Facebook. And if you 367 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: want to learn a little bit more about some of 368 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: the topics we talked about today, we have something that's 369 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: sort of kind of similar to the huge state idea 370 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: that we talked about, right Sarah it is. It's called 371 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: how could someone mistake a rubber hand their own? I 372 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: edited it recently, did Wena co edited for me, so 373 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: she's read it too. It's so really weird parlor trick 374 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: essentially involving a rubber hand, but one that is also 375 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: a true scientific experiment that has led researchers to some 376 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: new insights about body self disorders. It kind of reminded 377 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: both of us of this Christie fuge state um out 378 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: of body experience, and I think it'd be a fun 379 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: read for those of you who want to learn a 380 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: little bit bit more about what Christie could have been 381 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: going through, or just want a fun parlor trick for 382 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: your next part. We have yet to try it, so 383 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: if anyone has tried it or wants to read this 384 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: article and try and let us know if it works, 385 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: we'll head to the magic shop after this and by 386 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: a rubber hand and and just get an experiment going 387 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: up here in the studio. But the bottom line is 388 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: if you would like to read that, you can find 389 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: it by looking on our homepage at www. Duck how 390 00:22:54,800 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com for more on this and thousands 391 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: of other topics. Is it how stuff works dot com? 392 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: M M m M