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Speaker 1: thanks for coming back for another episode.

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Speaker 2: Dad.

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Speaker 1: We're in the basement again in the basement studio, back together,

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Speaker 1: which is so great and so fitting because filming this

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Speaker 1: today on Monday, June the second, which across Major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball is a very important day for the game, but

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Speaker 1: also for our family. It's Lou Garrig Day.

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Speaker 2: Right, And let's be clear now, this is the one

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Speaker 2: hundredth anniversary of the Lou Garrigg Streak, basically beginning as

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Speaker 2: you know, Jeff, on June the first, nineteen twenty five,

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Speaker 2: lou Geregg was used as a pinch hitter and flied

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Speaker 2: out against Walter Johnson. I tell you I went to

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Speaker 2: the second, is when he replaced Wally Pip in the lineup,

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Speaker 2: got three hits and then never missed another game, and

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Speaker 2: the streak ended at two to one, three zero, which

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Speaker 2: of course was broken many years later by Cal Ripken.

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Speaker 2: Let's also understand that lou Gegg is the greatest first

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Speaker 2: baseman of all time and with all apologies Jimmy Fox,

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Speaker 2: Albert Poohls and everyone else, there is not a close

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Speaker 2: second to lou Gerrig. You could make a case he's

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Speaker 2: one of the four greatest hitters, like the Mount Rushmore

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Speaker 1: And when you think about it, too, Dad, June the

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Speaker 1: second also has significance because it's the day he passed away.

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Speaker 1: June the second not only the day he started his

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Speaker 1: very famous long standing streak until Cal Ripkin Jr. It's

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Speaker 2: Saying, right, it's all so symmetrical. And on June the third,

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Speaker 2: nineteen thirty two, Luke Garrig hit four home rs runs

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Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. And if you ever are bored members of

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Speaker 2: And sixty in one season. And go look at the

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Speaker 2: which means at least sixty times he came to the

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Speaker 1: It's not including the times he probably came up as

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Speaker 1: And that was something that blew my mind last year

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Speaker 1: You just immediately think he has to be this guy

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna leave that there for now, and tomorrow

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Speaker 1: And I have to give you credit, Dad, because when

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks, Jeff, and I just Command Baseball again for

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Speaker 2: having lou gerrig Day. Remember last year we were in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so, make sure to subscribe wherever you're listening right

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Speaker 2: Well, first off, we're in June, Jeff, and I'm just

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Speaker 2: hoping that June is as noteworthy as May was, because

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Speaker 2: that was an amazing month. I have a million things.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to look back, We're going to look ahead.

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Speaker 2: But Freddy Freeman hit four to ten in the month

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Speaker 2: the month. Aaron Judge had another amazing month, and the

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Speaker 2: one of the takeaways is that the Royals on Monday

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the Royals, Dad, did you see what celebrity

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Speaker 1: I texted you, Dad, and I said, we got to

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Speaker 1: As Paul one set in the great movie Anchorman, sixty

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Speaker 2: That no, that's not Correl's Steve Carell's character.

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Speaker 1: Steve Carell was Brick Tamblin, and he was Brian Fantana.

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Speaker 2: All right, back to the takeaways, right, So, Chris Sales

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Speaker 2: their last name with s N started against each other

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Speaker 2: in a major league game. Does that surprise you?

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you that note, and I'm

435
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Speaker 1: really upset because I thought that might have been too

436
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: deep cut. But I was looking at that. You swear,

437
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Speaker 1: I swear on your father's grave hand to got. I

438
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,479
Speaker 1: look at every matchup now, Dad, I'm totally cursed. I

439
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: have no free time, corrupt because I'm scrolling through clicking

440
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: and I say them out loud.

441
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Speaker 2: Now. It can never happened before in Major League Get.

442
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Speaker 1: I say them out loud, Dad, And then I looked

443
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Speaker 1: on the lineups because I wanted to see if anybody

444
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Speaker 1: had an se n that they one of them would

445
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Speaker 1: be facing. I know that's a stretch too. But now Dad,

446
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: I say all of the matchups out loud because there

447
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: could be like a pun or something like. I got

448
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Speaker 1: to give a big, big shout out to Todd Addington,

449
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: member of the family. He said, I used to only

450
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Speaker 1: look at matchup pitching for the Cardinals. Now you have

451
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Speaker 1: me looking at Oh my god, yeah, he said, and

452
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Speaker 1: I love that. I love and hate it all at

453
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Speaker 1: the same time. He said. On Sunday, June first, Red

454
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Speaker 1: Sox Braves the matchup was and he said, this might

455
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Speaker 1: be a stretch. Garrett Crochet against Bryce Elder. So it's

456
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Speaker 1: an elder crochet matchup. And who do we associate doing

457
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Speaker 1: crochet work elderly grandmothers. It's a stretch. But I blame

458
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Speaker 1: you guys for making me look for that.

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Speaker 2: Todd. I think that's one. I love it, Todd. I

460
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: love anyone who's looking at things a little differently, because

461
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: if you look closely enough, funny bizarre things come up

462
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Speaker 2: all the time. Now, this is the note of the week.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Julie Chabodian, Julie Townsend, my cousin, your cousin, your aunt,

464
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Speaker 2: whatever we call it. We're not sure, but Julie is

465
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Speaker 2: a great baseball fan, and she's a great Dodger fan.

466
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Speaker 2: So she she is now looking up our Cane baseball

467
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 2: statistics because she listens to the podcast every week. Now

468
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 2: she's she hadn't missed an episode, so now she's sending

469
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Speaker 2: me bizarre things. So she sent me this the other day.

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Speaker 2: Hotsigme Kim of the Dodgers became the first player ever

471
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Speaker 2: to get four hits in a game, home run and

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Speaker 2: unassisted double play, and an assist from the outfield. So

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Speaker 2: I say to Julie, how in the world, where in

474
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Speaker 2: the world did you see this? Here's what she said,

475
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Speaker 2: I saw it on Facebook. What does that mean on Facebook?

476
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Speaker 1: I thought that's just when.

477
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Speaker 2: You talk to your friends. Well, as it turns out,

478
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 2: she must have been looking at optastats. I don't know

479
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: who the people are at optastats, but they are great

480
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Speaker 2: because they come up with some bizarre stuff. So I said, Julie,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I can prove this. So here's

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Speaker 2: what she says, Call Frank for the Allies. So my

483
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Speaker 2: own cousin is telling me to call Frank for the Allies.

484
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Speaker 2: So I called Frank for the Alives. Two hours later,

485
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Speaker 2: he calls me back and says, I can't find anyone

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Speaker 2: back to nineteen hundred. So I said it back to

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Speaker 2: Julie and she writes me back, I love Frank from

488
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Speaker 2: the Ellies.

489
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Speaker 1: He was one of our secret guests.

490
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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 1: I have to give a big shout out to a

492
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Speaker 1: Mark Chumbley Dad. He sent us a quirt chin not

493
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Speaker 1: necessarily relevant, so to speak, in this age, but I

494
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: just thought it was so cool because it's got a

495
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: basketball tie in and we're going into the NBA finals, right.

496
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Speaker 1: He wrote that Tony Gwynn, in his four years at

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Speaker 1: San Diego State, right, had more assists at five hundred

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Speaker 1: and ninety six than strikeouts four hundred and thirty four

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Speaker 1: in his twenty year Major League baseball career.

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Speaker 2: That is so beautiful that somebody would look at it

501
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: that way. Tony Gwynn was a great college basketball player,

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Speaker 2: all time assists leader at San Diego State when he retired.

503
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Speaker 2: And I've told you before Jeff tiniest hands I've ever

504
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Speaker 2: seen on a major league player, couldn't palm a basketball

505
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Speaker 2: in a million years. Was a great player. So anyone

506
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Speaker 2: who looks at Tony Gwynn at the end a little

507
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Speaker 2: bit heavy and everything else. Don't ever forget how fast

508
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Speaker 2: a runner he was, what a great outfielder he was,

509
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: and what a great point guard he was. Tony Gwinn's

510
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: strikeout high for any season was forty. He struck out

511
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: three times in a game once in his career, and

512
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: he had two hundred and ninety seven three hit games

513
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: and one three strikeout games. So thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: That's so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: And I know I heard you on Dan Levittard last

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Speaker 1: week and you wo had talked a little bit about

517
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: iPad and watching your swing and pictures, you know, going

518
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Speaker 1: through their motions and their bullpens and following it. But

519
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: Tony Gwinn was ahead of his time. He was a

520
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Speaker 1: student of the game. And listen, great athlete, not taking

521
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Speaker 1: anything away from that, but even you on the piece

522
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Speaker 1: you did after he passed away, had said he's a

523
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Speaker 1: great athlete, great hitter, but he was a student. He

524
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: was smarter than everybody else around him.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, imagine a VCR tape, those big clunky tapes. He

526
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: used to have those tapes. His wife would tape the

527
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Speaker 2: games for him and he would take a trunk full

528
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Speaker 2: of tapes with him on the road to watch the

529
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Speaker 2: pictures that he'll be facing, and he had to like

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Speaker 2: stand on like a metal chair in the clubhouse because

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Speaker 2: there's no technology back then in the mid eighties, and

532
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: he would have to hook everything up like me trying

533
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Speaker 2: to hook up a cable TV a buyout, which we

534
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: all know is the worst experience of all time. You're

535
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 2: the best editor on the all time worst. But he

536
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: would be hooking things up by himself and then would

537
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: sit there on one of those metal chairs and watch

538
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Speaker 2: the abats that he was going to take that night

539
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: against Shane Reynolds, whoever it was. Tony Gwyn was so

540
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: far ahead of his time when he came to videotape

541
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Speaker 2: and everything else. He was like nobody else.

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Speaker 1: So one last quirchin from a member of our family,

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Speaker 1: Rick emailed in and said, Chris Taylor of the Angels, Dodgers, Mariners,

544
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Speaker 1: his first and one hundredth home run were Grand Slams.

545
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Speaker 1: So I looked into this because I wanted to confirm it. Right,

546
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Speaker 1: He has six Grand Slams in his career. This is

547
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Speaker 1: Chris Taylor, four of them. Dad came one through eleven,

548
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: so out of his first eleven major league home runs,

549
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Speaker 1: four of them were Grand Slams, and then he didn't

550
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: hit another one for eighty nine home runs until his

551
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Speaker 1: one hundredth, and then he hit his sixth Grand Slam

552
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Speaker 1: as his one hundred and first.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, you really are starting to think, like me, we're out.

554
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Speaker 1: Of eleven almost half or okay, like a little more

555
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: than a third of his home runs were Grand Slams

556
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Speaker 1: and then eighty nine later to hit two more.

557
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: William Mays had eight Grand slams. Duke Snyder, who hit

558
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: over four hundred homers, had five Grand slams. Al Kaylin,

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00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: who had three hundred and ninety nine homers, had three

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Speaker 2: Grand slams. Derek Jeter had one in his career, Pete

561
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: Rose had one in his career, and Chris Taylor has six.

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Speaker 2: How do you explain that?

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Speaker 1: You can't explain it. That's why we love this game. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So coming up next, we're going to do on this

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Speaker 1: state in baseball history. We're also going to hear from

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Speaker 1: a new team, Tim, which I'm really looking forward to,

567
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: and we're going to open up the cards. We haven't

568
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: done that in a while.

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Speaker 2: Right right next on.

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Speaker 1: Is this a great game?

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Speaker 2: Or what?

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00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: All right? Dad, we're back? Is this a great game

573
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: or what let's jump right into on this state in

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Speaker 1: baseball history.

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Speaker 2: So on this state. In nineteen ninety five, Pedro Martinez

576
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Speaker 2: pitched nine perfect innings, but the score in San Diego,

577
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Speaker 2: but the score was tied after nine innings, so he

578
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Speaker 2: goes out to start the tenth inning. So he's the

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Speaker 2: second pitcher, joining Harvey Haddocks, ever to have a perfect

580
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Speaker 2: game through nine and then move on from there. Harvey Haddocks,

581
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Speaker 2: of course pitched twelve perfect innings with Pirates and first

582
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Speaker 2: batter bit Roberts doubled and they took Pedro Martinez out

583
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Speaker 2: of the game, and Joe Carrigan, then the pitching coach

584
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Speaker 2: for the Expos, walked him down the right field line

585
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Speaker 2: the next day just to remind him what an amazing

586
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Speaker 2: pitching performance that was. Now, he doesn't get credit for

587
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: a no hitter because it wasn't a no hitter. It

588
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: certainly wasn't a perfect game. Even though he pitched nine

589
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: perfect innings, he didn't even get the win in the game.

590
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: So Joe Kerrigan just wanted to make sure that Pedro

591
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,959
Speaker 2: recognized that's one of the greatest pitch games in baseball history,

592
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Speaker 2: and it's kind of lost because he didn't have a

593
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: no hitter, perfect game. He didn't even win the game.

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Speaker 2: I just bring this up in the one in one

595
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: billion chances that could happen. What if that happened today, Jeff,

596
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, guy pitches nine perfect innings. He goes

597
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: out to pitch the tenth and he looks around and

598
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Speaker 2: there's a runner at second base to start the tenth inning.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I couldn't even I didn't even think about it

600
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: in that way. That's just the point a pitcher actually

601
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Speaker 1: making it nine innings.

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00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: So, Jeff, let's say Pedro Martinez does this in twenty

603
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: twenty five, which he would have been certainly capable of doing.

604
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: First guy grounds out to second, next guy hits a

605
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: sacrifice fly, one to nothing, next guy strikes out. Pedro

606
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: Martinez faces thirty batters, retires them all. Yet it's not

607
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: a perfect game. He loses the game one to nothing,

608
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: and there's just has to be a giant asterisk next

609
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: to it, because you can't have a perfect game if

610
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: somebody's on base, even though they.

611
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: A second moves the guy over, sacrifice fly scores and

612
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: they lose one to zero. And he never gave up

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Speaker 1: a hit.

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00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: Right, Runner, never get thirty batters, faced thirty retired. Look,

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00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: I don't like the ghost Runner at second. We've been

616
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: clear about this, But this is why we shouldn't have it.

617
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Speaker 2: What if, by some miracle that happens, how we can

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Speaker 2: explain that jet, We're gonna have the biggest, biggest asterisk

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Speaker 2: in the history of sports if he doesn't get credit

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00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: for anything there when he faced thirty batters, retired of

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Speaker 2: them all and gets no credit for.

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Speaker 1: And the words of our friends at Dan Levatar, can

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Speaker 1: you stop yelling at me please, all you're getting a

624
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: little angry here, Tim.

625
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Speaker 2: We're seeing angry Tim, all right, all right. A couple

626
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: of birthdays. Nineteen thirty nine, Steve Dalkowski was born. Steve

627
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: Dalkowski is, according to rumors, the hardest throwing pitcher of

628
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: all time. And he was five foot nine, okay, And

629
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: he never played in the big leagues. But Cal Ripkin Senior,

630
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: Cal Junior's father told me he caught Steve Dalkowski in

631
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Speaker 2: the minor leagues, and he said, there's never been a

632
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 2: harder thrower than Steve Dalkowski. And rip Senior told me

633
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: once that he caught him on, you know, in a

634
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: minor league ballpark on the side when the lights were terrible,

635
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: and he threw it so hard that Rip Senior, a

636
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: great catcher, missed the ball and it hit him right

637
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: in the forehead at like one hundred miles an hour,

638
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: and Rip Senior like just shrugged it off and kept

639
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Speaker 2: on ketcher.

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Speaker 1: Ah. This is also the Rip Senior who took a

641
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Speaker 1: power drill to a stub toe to release the pressure

642
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: from his toenail, right with a son junior watching, and

643
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: the blood came spurting out like old faithful. He looked

644
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: at his son with the pressure now and he looks

645
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: at his son and go.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that feels good. That's Rip Senior, And that's Steve

647
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Speaker 2: del Kowski.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can say, thirty one years old, I don't

649
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: think I've ever seen my dad handle a power trail.

650
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: Yet alone, let alone put it into his right big toenail,

651
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: all right. Nineteen seventy seven, Travis Hafner was born, so

652
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 2: today he's forty eight years old. One of my favorite

653
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: players ever for many reasons. Very smart, wicked, funny, so uh.

654
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: He was the valedictorian of his high school. I said, Travis,

655
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: that is amazing. Tell me the story. I'm so impressed.

656
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: He goes, well, he shouldn't be impressed. Him from North Dakota,

657
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: and he said, I said, how many kids were as

658
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: you graduated class? He said eight? So he said, we

659
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: had four girls and four guys. And he said the

660
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: only thing easier than being one of the valedictorians was

661
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: getting a date for the senior problem. A love Travis Haffner.

662
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: So let's see how much you remember about Steve Sparks.

663
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: His birthday is. Travis Haffner's birthday is June the third.

664
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: June the third, right, So what does Steve Sparks do

665
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: putting me on the what is he loves birthday?

666
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? So what is Judy? Right? How tall is Travis?

667
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 2: Of course? Wow, this is what I'm looking at now.

668
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: Travis Hafner is born on June the third, six three,

669
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: and he's six foot three and Monday, the day we're

670
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: taping this. Rahulabanya is one of my favorite players ever.

671
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: I texted him because he was born on June the second,

672
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: six's two and he is six to two. So I

673
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: sent him that and he goes, you look up the

674
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: strangest statistics of anyone in history, and I said, well,

675
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: this is a Steve Sparks original. I just love it.

676
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: And last birthday jeff is Lake, bacher of the Marlins. Okay,

677
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: so his first name is Lake and today and today

678
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: is his birthday. So in his honor, we are going

679
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: to present the All Bodies of Water team because we

680
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: have a guy named Lake who was born on this

681
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: date in nineteen still, so he's one of the pitchers.

682
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: B B. C se a y got it, Doug Creek

683
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: left handed reliever, Jim Pool, the late Jim Pool who

684
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: died of als last year, and Jeffrey Springs. So that's

685
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: our five man pitching staff. Steve Lake is the catcher.

686
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: You're allowed to use Lake twice as long as one

687
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: is a first name and it was the last name.

688
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: I make the rules here. These are my lists, okay,

689
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: h Brooke Jacobe is the first baseman and usually played third,

690
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: but I needed a first baseman. Ford Proctor who played recently.

691
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: You know what a Ford is. It's like a yeah,

692
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: right right, Brooks Robinson. You can Brooks and Brooks. Brook

693
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: and Brooks are different and Brooks is a Hall of

694
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 2: Fame or great. Steve, listen, you make the rules.

695
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: This is your game. You're playing by yourself. You don't

696
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: need to explain it to me.

697
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: Now I'm going to have to explain this. Christian Arroyo

698
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: is the shortstop. So when I looked up bodies of

699
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: water on Google, Arroyo is the first body of water

700
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 2: to come up. I have to read this. It is

701
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: a channel or stream that runs only after rain. The

702
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: rest of the time it's dry. Had you ever heard that?

703
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think you missed part of the definition.

704
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: It's it also runs after an Alex Rodriguez. That would

705
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: be the only other thing he would run after.

706
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: Explain.

707
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: Remember the infamous tag running the first base Alex Rodriguez

708
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: slapped the ball out of his hand when he was

709
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: trying to tag him on his way to first.

710
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: That was Bronson Arroyo. What did you say, christ.

711
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: I thought we were still pitching.

712
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: Jeff, you're off the show.

713
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: But for all the mistakes out of the.

714
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: I love it, Jeff, I love it. You had an Arroyo.

715
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: We could have done that, and you got it right,

716
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: the famous red Sox.

717
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: You Yeah, well, clearly. I mean I thought I was

718
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: the smartest guy in the room, and clearly not even

719
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: I love it.

720
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: I love it. You're trying, man, that's so good. All

721
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: right outfield. Finally, Jason Bay Simon Pond. Yeah, your boy

722
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: Brandon marsh of the Phillies. Gotta do and one of

723
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 2: my favorites. He'll be the DH Mickey Rivers.

724
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: So that is are all hey by five thousand dollars?

725
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: Well, now we have to clarify. First year covering the

726
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 2: Rangers nineteen eighty two, I'm like fourteen years old. Mickey

727
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: Rivers in spring training asked me tim, Hey, can you

728
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: loan me two thousand dollars? I'm making thirteen thousand dollars

729
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: a year. He's making four hundred and fifty thousand. He

730
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: asked me to loan him two thousand dollars. I said, Mick,

731
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: I'm making thirteen rand a year. I don't have two

732
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. But he makes the all body of water tea.

733
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: He also faked an injury so his buddy can get

734
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: a start on George.

735
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: Right, how about that? We love Mickey Rivers the best?

736
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: All right, dad, it's in the cards? Are you ready?

737
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: I am?

738
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be honest. I ran out of packs

739
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: to rip, so I've just grabbed some cards from my

740
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: storage area back behind us. So and I'm just going

741
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: to rifle through these as quickly as we can. Ronald

742
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: Acuna Junior all.

743
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: Right, Well, I'm just going to tell you the same

744
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: thing that I told you earlier. Chipper Jones told me

745
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: he is the most talented player I've ever seen to

746
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: wear a major league uniform. Case closed. That's who Ronald

747
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: Counya Junior is.

748
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Luis Arise.

749
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 2: Won three straight batting titles and did it for three

750
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: different teams. Nobody can get a hit better than that

751
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 2: guy in the major leagues except for this year, because

752
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge is hitting almost for.

753
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: It, I know, right, Aaron Nola, Oh this is a

754
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: cool pull. Can I take this one?

755
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

756
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: So at this time last year, we did an ALS

757
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: special episode from Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia. Aaron Nola, unfortunately,

758
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: similar to me, lost his uncle to ALS, and he

759
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: so amazingly joined us on the concourse before the game,

760
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: way before the game to talk about his uncle, to

761
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: talk about his love of, you know, giving back to

762
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: the ALS community. And I just think that's really really special,

763
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: and you love hearing this stuff about Paul Skeins right,

764
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: giving back to the Gary Sinize Foundation. Anytime you have

765
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: players who believe in something, it's a beautiful.

766
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: And for every strikeout he donates money to als. How

767
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: about that?

768
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: That's so special?

769
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: All right?

770
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: Devers Raphael Devers of the Red.

771
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: Sox again RBI machine. Remember Jeff started out oh for

772
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: nineteen with sixteen strikeouts, and he just passed the fifty

773
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 2: RBI mark the other day. So I'm not real wild

774
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: about the way he's gone about all this. I'm not

775
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 2: playing third, I'm not playing first. I'm not the agent.

776
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: But man, he can hit.

777
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: And we've got Yoshi Yamamoto.

778
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So Yamamoto on Sunday night had a

779
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 2: difficult time against the Yankees. But that guy is really

780
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: really good. And I need to give a shout out

781
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: to Buster only here because he scooped me on the

782
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: air on Baseball Tonight on Sunday night, and he couldn't

783
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: wait to do it. He and Sarah Lanx came up with.

784
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: Yamamoto started against Ryan Yarborough of the Yankees, and they

785
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: looked up. It was the fifth time since eighteen ninety

786
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: three that starting with the last name starting with a

787
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: Y started against each other in a Major League game.

788
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: Buster was just so thrilled to have come up with

789
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: this because he knows how much I love this. He

790
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: clearly stumped me. Good for you, Buster, that was a

791
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: tremendous note.

792
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: That's impressive.

793
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 2: And then he sent me a note this morning he said,

794
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: I think we're both in need of therapy after going

795
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: through that, and I had to write back, Buster, I

796
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: know I need therapy. I don't know about you. So

797
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: I did a podcast with him the other day, and

798
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: this is my new favorite Buster only story, and it

799
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: involves me more than him. Unfortunately. We were talking about

800
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: milking cows and all that. So I said that I

801
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: milked cows one time in my life ferguson farm with

802
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: Kelly when she's in the fifth grade. And I said,

803
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: and my cow just he just didn't give up any milk.

804
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: And Buster screams, Buster, who grew up on a dairy

805
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: farm in Vermont, screams at me on the air. Did

806
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: you just say? He? So? I guess I had temporarily

807
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: forgotten that only female cows give milk?

808
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: Dad, How did you not know that?

809
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: I just wasn't thinking clearly. Okay, good, I tried to.

810
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: Now I'm worried about when you took your daughter home

811
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: for the very first time, you're first born. Did you

812
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: think you were gonna feed her? Think mom was in

813
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: charge of that?

814
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: Right? Meet the No? Yeah, right, never mind, meet the parents.

815
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: Meet the parents.

816
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: Got nipples?

817
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: Greg?

818
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: Can you milk me? If you're gonna go there, you

819
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: gotta go for it.

820
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's so bad.

821
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: Is this the first time that word has been used

822
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: on this podcast?

823
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: Two years? It has to be, I think so right?

824
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, okay, a last card, Dad, Sorry, we got

825
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: so off track on it. It's in the cards, cal Ripken, Joe.

826
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: Away, not on the Yes, that's unbelievable. On the on

827
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: the lou garreg Day, cal Ripken comes up and that

828
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 2: was a poll, right, it was a pole.

829
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: I really did just grab a stack of cards. As

830
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: I mentioned before, we've probably done some of these before.

831
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: Because I don't have a fresh pack, we'll have to

832
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: reach out to your friend at top and get some

833
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: more cars.

834
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: Two thousand, six hundred and thirty two consecutive games, he

835
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: broke lou Garrick's record. And I don't want to be

836
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: corny about this, but the one person in the history

837
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: of baseball who should come along and break the record

838
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: set by the Iron Horse is Cal Ripken because I've

839
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: never met anyone who loved to play more than him.

840
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: And as I've told you many times, Jeff, it's not

841
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: just baseball. I played basketball with him way too many times,

842
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: raging conflict of interest. But I told you a few

843
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: years ago, Joe Orslac, one of his teammates who's in

844
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Orioles Baseball Hall of Fame, said he played

845
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: against Ripken in ping pong one night. This isn't that

846
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: long a few years ago, and I didn't know that.

847
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: Joe Orslak was like a three state ping pong champion

848
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: in high school. And he said, I beat junior in

849
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: ping pong twenty four straight games, and he would not

850
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 2: leave my house until he beat me. And he beat

851
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: me in the twenty fifth game at two o'clock of

852
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 2: the morning, and then he went home. So that's who

853
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: Cal Ripken is. And that is the guy that passed

854
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 2: lou Gerrig for the most consecutive games ever.

855
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: Played and fitting dad tomorrow on your feed listening right now,

856
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: a very special interview. I personally will be interviewing my

857
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: dad and my uncle Andy because their middle brother, my

858
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: uncle Matt passed away from ALS in twenty twenty three,

859
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: as we talked about in the top of the show, Dad,

860
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be an emotional episode, but a great

861
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: one to remember his memory, to talk about baseball, to

862
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: talk about other people we know and love who have

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Speaker 1: fought or are fighting this terrible, terrible disease. But Dad,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say this because it was such

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Speaker 1: a it was such a terrible experience with Uncle Matt.

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Speaker 1: But I'm so honored to be a part of that

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Speaker 1: community now, and I think of all families to go

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Speaker 1: through it, a baseball family like ours is so fitting

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Speaker 1: because we can use our voice and our our platform

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Speaker 1: to help raise awareness.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Kuracheon Boys Forever.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow. Thanks so much for listening, and

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Speaker 1: it's always thank you for being a part of our family.