1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: What's up? 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: Its way up with Angela Yee, And I know this 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 2: woman is incredibly busy. So thank you to A'ma Ray 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: for joining me today. 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: How you feeling, I feel great. 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 3: I feel great. Thank you so much for having me. 7 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 3: I've been such a fan for years. I'll get down here. 8 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Of course, I would have never thought that's of course, 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: it's always amazing to me because I remember I've been 10 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: doing this. 11 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: It's twenty years in radio for me. This year. 12 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: You're an icon. I'm You're good at this girl. No, no, no, no, sure, 13 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: it is just true. I mean probably since I was 14 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: maybe like seventeen eighteen, and I know it started with 15 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: like lip service and then like stuff with Breakfast Club 16 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: and you know all of that. So I've been tuned 17 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: in for years. 18 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I appreciate that. 19 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: And I you know, I know you're coming here today 20 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: and you have to be one of the busiest people 21 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: because when I look at what you have going on, 22 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: like the tours that you're going to be on, and 23 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: I feel like you have this like big responsibility just 24 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: because of what you represent. You know, this is an 25 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: artist who you're not in any one specific genre of music, 26 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: and that is all very intentional too, and sometimes that 27 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: can be like confusing for people, But for real music fans, 28 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: we can just listen to it and be like, I 29 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: just love this, No. 30 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: For sure, for sure, I think like I think it's 31 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: two things, like as a black girl number one, and 32 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: then as an African girl, I know so many girls 33 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 3: that are so cool and so diverse, and I think 34 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: that I love that I get to be some type 35 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 3: of representation for them, you know what I mean. And 36 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: I think that being a genre bender, especially as an 37 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: African girl, might come as confusing to some people. But 38 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: so many kids that I grew up around, so many girls, 39 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: so many women that I grew up around, listen to 40 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: so many different types of music, are so diverse and 41 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: like their cultural experiences and the things that they bring 42 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: to you know, their own lives in other people's lives. 43 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: So I'm just an amalgamation of like all of the 44 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: women that I've met and that are around me, and 45 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 3: you know, and I think that I bring that to 46 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: my music too. 47 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: I think about that because my best friend, she when 48 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: she first started doing music, she was like a punk 49 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: rock artist, but she's black, right, Santi Gold, and she had. 50 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 3: Oh why not no, that's your best friend. Yeah, I 51 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 3: got another icon, like you talking. 52 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: I went to college together, were roommates like all after that. 53 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: Sonty Gold is the reason I like am so diverse, 54 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: Like musically, she was one of the first, Like I 55 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: remember when she dropped her her debut album sex, what 56 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 3: was before that? It's one sift. It's the one where 57 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 3: she's on the album cover and she's like vomiting gold. Yes, yes, 58 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 3: Oh my god, what an icon when I. 59 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Tell you so. 60 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: Before that, she was in a band and it was 61 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: called Stiff and it was like a punk rock band. 62 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: And I remember her just being. 63 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: Like, and I love that you said that because you 64 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: kind of like, in a way, somewhat of your journey 65 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: reminds me of how she is. 66 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 3: Oh that's so cool. I'm honored. I love. 67 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: I love because she first started writing for other people 68 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: right and then, And I know you did first, So 69 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: I know that really helps you as far as understanding 70 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: like different like how to make the crowd move absolutely, 71 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: and how to make sure you're doing like every crowd 72 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: is different. 73 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: And the DJ has such an important job when you 74 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: go out. 75 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: Because the DJ can make or break absolutely, and you 76 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: could be like that party was amazing, and it's because 77 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: of the DJ. 78 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: Or it could be like that party was terrible and 79 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: it's because of the DJ. 80 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely absolutely. I think that that having being a 81 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: DJ like and having that background for sure helped me 82 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: with my curation skills, and like I think even when 83 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 3: you learn how tempos work, and when you learn how 84 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: to make people move, like when it comes down to 85 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: even sequencing an album, that's such a great quality and 86 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: skill to have because it makes you so much. It 87 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: makes it so much easier to do a. 88 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: Job like that and even to produce. Absolutely absolutely right 89 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: so for producing. But I was gonna say for her 90 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: when she first came out, because she was black, even 91 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: though she was doing this other like genre of music, 92 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: they would never categorize her as that or even play 93 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: her on certain stations because she's a black artist. Even 94 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: though her music, if you listen to her, it doesn't matter. 95 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: She was doing punk rock music at first, but that 96 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: was a difficult place to break into, just like seeing 97 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: like a Mickey Guyton who does country music, but as 98 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: a black woman, it was hard at first for her 99 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: to be accepted in that space. 100 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: You know, it's so crazy because I think Santy gold 101 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: is so interesting because I don't know if she's aware 102 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: how many African girls she's changed lives, that she's changed 103 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: or radicalized. So many African girls that I know adore her, 104 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: and that's like the beginning or the genesis of their 105 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: journeys into self and like being alt and punk, Like 106 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: she's the one that's crazy. 107 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: But yeah, oh good, I've said, because I know she 108 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: knows who you are, and I hope so that she 109 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: her as clip Oh my god, you can see it. 110 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: Because the music business, I think can also be a 111 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: really tough one, especially when you're a creative and it's 112 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: not always just about the money, because I'm sure there's 113 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: opportunities that you've had that you've been like, I don't 114 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: know if that goes with the direction that I'm creating 115 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: for myself. 116 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Oh you know, so how how is that for you? 117 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: Because even seeing you going on tour right like you'll 118 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: be you did your own tour and we'll talk about 119 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: that in a second. So now, Sabrina Carpenter and then 120 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: also k Sannadaanada, I mean that is like the realm 121 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: I feel like, and the like the elite in each 122 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: of their spaces that they're in, you know, and so 123 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: for you, having just come off your own tour, tell 124 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: me what that experience was, Like. 125 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: I think it's what I loved was that these artists 126 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: were all personally asked to have me do their shows. 127 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: And I think that what it showed me was that 128 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: my album Fountain Baby, and just the music that I 129 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 3: create is so diverse that it can touch different people 130 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: in different audiences. And to see that the artists that 131 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: are at the top of their game and their respective 132 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: fields can recognize that and be like, Okay, there's this 133 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: one thing that you do that I feel like matches 134 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: my energy, but then there's also a whole other world 135 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: that you create, and that's what I want to expose 136 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: my audience to and different the different artists that I 137 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: worked with, like k Tra is just so chill and 138 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: so much fun, and his sets are bouncy and everyone 139 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: is having a good time. And then like with Childish Gambino, 140 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: working with him in the studio, for example, he's so intentional, 141 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: and then when you realize how he's able to work 142 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: on a song with you and get a certain type 143 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: of performance or delivery out of you, you recognize how 144 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: he's such a great director and how he's made such 145 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 3: an impact not only just in like music, but also 146 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: film and visual. And then I think Sabrina was the 147 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 3: one that shocked me the most, you know, yeah, because 148 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: I remember asking her. I was like, so, who on 149 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: your team like asked you to do this? And she 150 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: was like, well, no, I really liked your album and 151 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: my best friend and I played all the time, so 152 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 3: I really wanted you to come. And I was like OK. 153 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: And I was like, you know, it's gonna be a 154 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: little spicy, and she was like, I want you to 155 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: just fully be yourself. 156 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: That's dombe. 157 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: No. So after the first night after the show, I 158 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: went backstage to go see her and I was like, hey, 159 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: I'm totally open to feedback if you want us to 160 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: pull back, if you want us to change anything. She 161 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: was like, it's perfect, don't change anything. But then I 162 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: watched her show as well, and then I got to 163 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: see how diverse musically everything is, and like the arrangements 164 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: go from everything from pop to jazz to country to 165 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: like even like tinges of R and B and hip hop. 166 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, you like music, like you're really 167 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: here for the thing. And I gained you know, I 168 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: already had a lot of respect for it, but I 169 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: gained a whole new respect for her taste level in 170 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: her artistry and really understanding how to maneuver through all 171 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: of these different genres and styles. 172 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: That's nice and organic that she was the one. 173 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: It wasn't like the teams like you know, what would 174 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: be great to uh put this person on because this 175 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: could be a good way to do it. It was 176 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: just something that she just was like, I like your music. 177 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: Do you think I'm shocked? 178 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: I was shocked. 179 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, girl, but you shouldn't be because 180 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 2: I feel like you've been getting tons of accolades, even 181 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: you know, seeing your album previous albums make the list 182 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: like I saw a Pitchfork had you back in like 183 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, I think, on their list of like top 184 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: albums of the year. Yeah, you know, And I just 185 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: feel like people kali Uchi is the song that you 186 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: have with her because I love money too, but no period, 187 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: we all do. 188 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: We all do because. 189 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the financial situation like before this music started blowing up. 190 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: So for me, I have to say that I am 191 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: really grateful to like I had a mom that has 192 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: worked her butt off for years and my mom actually 193 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: is my manager. And when when I started music, I 194 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: remember thinking to myself, who do I know that's resourceful 195 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: and smart and learns quickly on their feet. So I 196 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: went to my mom and I was like, hey, here's 197 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: a business plan. I really want to be an artist. 198 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: I think this is how much it's going to cost. 199 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: This is how quickly we're going to recoup. Will you 200 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: help me? And she was like okay. And so you know, 201 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: my mom has always been like a middle class working women, 202 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: always worked at the top corporate job. So she's taking 203 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: care of myself and my brother really well and has 204 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: like provided us with opportunities to grow. And when we 205 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: both wanted to, you know, come into the world and 206 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: do our respective businesses, she not only it wasn't like Okay, 207 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: go out into the world. It was like, all right, 208 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be your mentor and I'm gonna be your 209 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: business partner. And all the things that I've learned from 210 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: working from Coca Cola to City Bank to City Group, 211 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to give you guys this knowledge and imparted 212 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: on you, but also supervise you and help you through 213 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: you know, your your your respective path. So I'm grateful 214 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: to just have such an amazing mom who has really 215 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: dedicated her life to making sure that I am right 216 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: where I am right now. 217 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: That's dope. 218 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: And your dad was into fashion too, right, Yes, he 219 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: was for both your parents. 220 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: And yeah, no, my dad. My dad loves clothing. That's 221 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: that was also one of the things that he did. 222 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: He imported and exported fabric, you know, since I was 223 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: a child, So that's that's kind of been his bag. 224 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: He loves clothes, and he loves to get dressed, and 225 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 3: he loves to be the center of attention. 226 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, And so you were born in correct me 227 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: ifrom in the Bronx, Yes, ma'am okay, so the Bronx 228 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: and you have. 229 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: Wow. Then you went to. 230 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: Atlanta, yes, no, so yeah, then Acra Yeah, and then 231 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: I lived there until I was about a and then 232 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: my mom went to go do her masters at Guayzwater 233 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 3: Emory Business School, so she moved us there with her, 234 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: and then she came to New Jersey to work, so 235 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: we lived in Jersey. Then I went back again for 236 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 3: high school in Ghana, and then I went to college 237 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: in Atlanta. 238 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: I think that's so dope. 239 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: I think that also is a great influence because like 240 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: for me, I feel like I grew up my whole 241 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 2: life in Brooklyn and then I. 242 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: Moved to Jersey. 243 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: That right, I've never really. 244 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: Lived anywhere else. 245 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: But just imagine what you're exposed to when you have 246 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: all these different cultures and all these different, like very 247 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: very differing places that you actually can be comfortable in 248 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 2: and spaces to move around in. How do you think 249 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: that influenced your music? Being able to move in to 250 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: different places like that. 251 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: I think instantly moving taught me how to be adaptable 252 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: and how to be malleable. And I think that that 253 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: shows in my music. You know, no matter what artists 254 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 3: I'm featuring with, or no matter even in my music, 255 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: whether it's punk influence, whether it's Afro influence, whether it's rock, 256 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: hip hop, whatever, I'm always able to maneuver and move 257 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: through the music. And I think that that's what that 258 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: kind of lifestyle taught me, is just how to be 259 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: adaptable and to move through the world and to be flexible, 260 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: you know, in my thought process, and to be open 261 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 3: to learning. 262 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 2: Now, the video for Sweet Yes We Had It, that's, 263 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: by the way, a beautiful video. 264 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: Thank you? 265 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: Do you feel like that was risque for you to 266 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 2: make it. I saw you on the news recently saying 267 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: that when you go to Ghana, you feel like you 268 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: don't get the love that they should be giving an artist, 269 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: you know, because you're something somebody that is very intentioned 270 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: on also making sure that you're you are I think 271 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: being inclusive. 272 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: Of everyone absolutely. 273 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: Do you think it's like risque moves like that that 274 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: gets you back in Ghana criticism? 275 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: You know what? I think that I came out of 276 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: the gates swinging like one of my very first no, 277 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: one of my very first music videos had like had like, uh, 278 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: it had trans women in it, it had it had 279 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: gay people in it, think kids in it. It had 280 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: the world. So that is what that's my representation of. 281 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: I see the world, and I care about the world, 282 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: and I care about community. So that's what like my 283 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: visual representation is all about. But like with Sweet, I 284 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: was just like it would just be sexy, like just 285 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: like to be sexy sex girl lying on the bed, 286 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: Like why not? You know, it's twenty twenty four and 287 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: we live in a world that accepts all lifestyles and 288 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: all paths. But to answer your question as far as 289 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: like you know, maybe let's say, uh, not receiving a 290 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: certain level of support or amount of support. I definitely 291 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: do think that my music was niche, and it's still 292 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: considered niche to the people back home. And I think 293 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: that support wise, I see it from the girls that 294 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: are just like me. They are the ones that are 295 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: championing my movement and are like, oh my god, we 296 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: love Amaree blah blah blah blah. But then I think 297 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: in a grander scheme of things, you know, I think 298 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: I radicalize the population a little bit, and it's like, 299 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 3: let's see how it goes with this girl. 300 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: But the world is very conservative still. 301 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: Is, Yeah, it is. 302 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: And even when I'm on. 303 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: The radio, certain things they're like, you know, certain markets, 304 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if we can talk about that or 305 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: we can do this, because some places might have an 306 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: issue with it. But it's kind of like, guys, it's 307 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, Like everybody relaxed. 308 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: And I think that the artists now too, Like when 309 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: you just think about all the coolest artists in the world, 310 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: like they're so diverse and so malleable and so flexible, 311 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: and you know, and it's just like it's a great, 312 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: big world and I think everyone is just rolling through it. 313 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: But I think that when we talk about conservatism, I 314 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: do think that it's the generation before us that's still 315 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: kind of like there's still a changing of the guard happening. 316 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: But I think the older generation is just kind of like, 317 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: you guys are just a little too much. My mom 318 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: almost was like, you're not going to drop that video 319 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: and I was like, watch. 320 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: Me, You're like this is working for me? 321 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: No, I was like, girl, watch like, no one is 322 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: gonna be upset. Like it's hot. You know, it is 323 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: what it is, and it's fun. It's fun. It's fun 324 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: to I think, push people to think outside of the 325 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: box and outside of the lines and the things that 326 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: they're used to thinking. 327 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: Now, when you put out Fountain Baby and now several 328 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: times you said you had gotten out of a relationship 329 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: that was really difficult. 330 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: Huh huh. 331 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, So was that you doing a breakup or did 332 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: somebody break up with you? 333 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: Like what was the issue? 334 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: I think Fountain Baby was really just about a process 335 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: of self discovery for me. And what was cool about 336 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: it was that, you know, the person that I was 337 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: in love with at the time just happened to be 338 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: a conduit for that self discovery. So it's really a 339 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: lot of me going back and forth with this person, 340 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: But truly it's an internal struggle of like, do I 341 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: think that you're the right person to help me get 342 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: to the places that I want to be? And what 343 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: are the things that you do, whether you're aware or 344 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: not that either scare me, challenge me, push me, or 345 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: hold me back. And that was the whole push and 346 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: pull of the album. But yeah, I think that ultimately 347 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: it was like self discovery for myself, and you know, 348 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: a person just happened to be amused and a conduit 349 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: for it, and I thank them for that. 350 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: Right. 351 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: If anything, from every relationship, we learn absolutely and we 352 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: grow from it. We learned what not to do, we 353 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: learn what we do, what we learn what we don't want, Yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am. 354 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: That's that's that's facts. That's facts. 355 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: No. 356 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: But I think outside of that too, you know, I 357 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: for sure, like I can definitely understand like the devastation 358 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: of it all, just like you know, going through something 359 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: with someone that you've been with for a long time, 360 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: but when you come out of it too, it's so 361 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: refreshing to be like, oh, Okay, now I. 362 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: Can see the world clearer that's gone digital. 363 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: No, you know, you know, we're back in the streets. 364 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: No literally, yeah, Now as far as you you know, 365 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: did you produce all of this too? Or well no, 366 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: not everything, but you still are producing for yourself? 367 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: No. Yeah, So I'm always the exec producer on my projects, 368 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: and then I have two other exec producers that I 369 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: work with, QST being like, you know, one of my 370 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: main ones. And then we have kind of like a 371 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: smaller group of you know, people that we work with 372 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: and that helped to produce the album. So shout out, 373 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: shout out to all the boys. But yeah, I worked, 374 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: I worked on I worked on this project with like 375 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: a team of amazing producers. 376 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, I saw you said that Babyface influenced you. 377 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: It made you actually have to go back and rewrite 378 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: an album, yes, ma'am. So what's the process like now 379 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: for you? 380 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: So I think the cool thing with meeting Babyface was 381 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: this is probably the human being that has written the 382 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: songs that have defined all of our lives. Right, Like, 383 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I was like conceived to a Babyface song. 384 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: So so imagine going in and you watch his process, 385 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: and the cool thing for him was like he never 386 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: leaves a story open ended. It always has to have 387 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: a start and has to have a beginning. And when 388 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: we were writing together, I would say a line and 389 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: he would be like, yes, but why and what does 390 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: this lead to and what does this teach the audience? 391 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: And I was like, Oh, I'm just saying things because 392 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 3: I just think they sound cool and fly, But actually 393 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: there should be a method to that, you know, And 394 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: you should end every song having taught someone something. And 395 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: so when I did those sessions with Kenny, I went 396 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 3: back and I was like, I called my co writer 397 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: Mason and I was like, Hey, we need to go 398 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 3: back in the studio and rewrite the album. So you 399 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: have to fly to Ghana and he was like, oh okay, 400 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: and then he came and I love that he took 401 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 3: the feedback on board. And every time the same thing 402 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 3: Kenny would do to me, Why can that be stronger? 403 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 3: What are we teaching them? Does this make sense? You know? 404 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: So that's I shout out to Kenny, shout out to Babyface, 405 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 3: the greatest in the world. Man. 406 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 2: I had him on lip service and he was saying 407 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: that you. 408 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: Don't have to be. 409 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: Huss he said, he said, you don't have to use 410 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 2: like a foul language to get your point across in music. 411 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: And Arie Lennox is on that episode too, where we 412 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 2: were like, well, sometimes it's kind of sometimes it does 413 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: sound kind of cool though, because sometimes there's no other way, 414 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: I think, or sometimes it can still be a great 415 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: way to express yourself. But I was like that babyface respectfully, yes, 416 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna just because you don't never want to talk 417 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: crazy in front of baby He's like so nice and chill, Yeah, yeah, 418 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: so chill. It's like, you know, you got to hand 419 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: it to him, like, but I think, yeah. 420 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: I think for him, he has like a special talent, 421 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: like a crazy talent of writing songs where he especially 422 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: can probably communicate so many different types of emotions without 423 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: having to like use swear words. But I think that, 424 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: you know, for like the youth, we're angry and we're 425 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: confused and where we want to rage. So I think 426 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: that that's probably the difference where Kenny is so classy 427 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: and Kenny is so reserved and everything that he does 428 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 3: is so intentional, and I think that that shows in 429 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 3: the way that he writes his music. 430 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: Now, why do you think the youth is in gree 431 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 2: and confused? When you just said that. Now, I was 432 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: thinking about when I was younger, was I angry? And 433 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: was I confused? And I don't know if it's like 434 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: a I feel like there's so much exposure to things 435 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: today that it does kind of. 436 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: Create a lot of confusion. 437 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, as like a youth who needs like who have 438 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: you seen? Rent prices? Food prices? Like what are you 439 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: talking about when my parents were coming up? 440 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: We were just talking about that. 441 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 3: What, Oh my god, when my parents were coming up, 442 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 3: like they were able to have like a starter home 443 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: and starter fans. What are you talking about? We're going 444 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: through it. The rent is insane, food prices are insane. 445 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: But I think outside of that too. I saw the 446 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: funniest thing on my way here. There was a a 447 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: monster truck going around and it had a bunch of 448 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 3: like Confederate flags and it was a Trump rally and 449 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: they had Joe Biden tied up. No like that, No, 450 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 3: literally the so there was a bumper sticker on the 451 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: end and it has Joe Biden tied up and it 452 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: says the hoe it's got to go that this is 453 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 3: happening in real time in New York City. I will 454 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: show you, ma'am. On my way here, on my way here, 455 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 3: I will show you the video. 456 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 457 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: I will show you the video. And then there's a 458 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: second car behind them, and it's like it's like dummy 459 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: dolls of Trump in the car. And then on the 460 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: side it's pasted, you know, when he got shot and 461 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: he did the thing. It says legends never die. I said, oh, oh, 462 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 3: my guy, Like that's what I'm saying, Like, we're we're 463 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: in living in a world where everything is so unfiltered 464 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 3: and unsolicited, and we're exposed to everyone's thoughts all the 465 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 3: time and exposed to so many things. And I can 466 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: see why as youth were confused and it's a difficult 467 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: time because there's no filtering of anything. 468 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 2: Well, thank god you have the outlet of music to 469 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: be able to express yourself. Yeah, and as you're working 470 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: on new music, and so you did the extended version 471 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: Roses Are Red, Tears Are Blue with seven News. 472 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: Yes, right, And so was this always. 473 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: Like the plan to have the extended play or was 474 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: it supposed to be a whole new project. 475 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: Oh no, it was supposed to be an extended Okay, yeah, 476 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 3: it was, like you know, because it's like a whole 477 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: new Yeah, no, literally think about it now. I should 478 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: have done that. I should have just made a whole 479 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 3: new project, but you know, we just wanted to do 480 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: a deluxe for the album, and kind of. 481 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: It's amazing to pay all eyes to Young Thug on hair, 482 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: but that's even something that's crazy that's going on. His child, 483 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: the longest child ever in Georgia, in Atlanta, and it's like, 484 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: it's a mess. 485 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: It is a mess. And I, you know, I think 486 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 3: that when I think about artistry and what Young Thug 487 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: is represented for so many young people and so many 488 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: young artists. He's such an icon. But then I do 489 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 3: think about the fact that, you know, there are repercussions 490 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: to actions, and I do think that, you know, we 491 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 3: have to think about the nuance of it all. It's 492 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 3: like young man in the streets to provide for his 493 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 3: family has probably done things that he's not proud of. 494 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: But then at the same time, it's a cycle. It's 495 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: a vicious cycle, you know. I think that it's difficult 496 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 3: once you come out of that and you have the 497 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: opportunity to lift others, to leave that type of life alone. 498 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: And I think that that's kind of like the nuance 499 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: of what we're seeing with Doug where it's this icon 500 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 3: that we love and we adore, but there's also mistakes 501 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 3: that he's made that he's being held accountable for. But 502 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: at the same time, you think about the system and 503 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: how why was he even there to begin with? How 504 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: did he how was he even a young black man 505 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: that needed to do the things that he needed to 506 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 3: do to begin with? And yeah, the trial is an 507 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: absolute mess, and I hope that, you know, everything gets 508 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: figured out. But ultimately, I think once he's like remorseful 509 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: for his actions and you know, just ready to start 510 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: a new leaf, turnover a new leaf. 511 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: I love that you said that, like that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. 512 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 2: Think that's very because sometimes when we really adore certain people, 513 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: we can overlook things right and not understand that like, okay, 514 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: there is some things that there are repercussions for people's 515 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: actions at times, while we might love someone as an 516 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 2: art art is you know, even watching I know everybody's 517 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: talking about Diddy right now, but even watching that, like 518 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: for a lot of people, he was like, you know, 519 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: this is what I want to be. I want to 520 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: be like Diddy. I want to work for Diddy, I 521 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: want to do this. People were calling themselves naming themselves 522 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: after him. But then we see all of these things 523 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: that are coming out and people kind of there are 524 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 2: some people who don't believe it. 525 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: They're like, you know, how they said, God. 526 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: There's overwhelming evidence to the contrary. What are you talking 527 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 3: about it? 528 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 2: Oh, definitely make excuses if they like someone or if 529 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: they admire somebody. And I think there's definitely a mistrust 530 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: of the justice system here too. And so even like 531 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: when you know, certain people will be like, well, you know, 532 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 2: they always pin these things and it's to make the 533 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: black man look bad, and because it has happened in 534 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: the past, you know, But like you said, there are 535 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people coming for it. I think there's 536 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 2: like one hundred new cases that are happening right now. 537 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: So how the music business is also not an easy 538 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: place to be in. But at least you have your 539 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: mom as your manager right for that where they like 540 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: scared about certain things for you, because even just financially, 541 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: you know, people signing deals that aren't like the best 542 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: deals and getting taken advantage of. But then also having 543 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: to be in the studio. You're a woman, You're you know, 544 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: a beautiful woman. I'm sure there's times when people can 545 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: test you and try you. What has that been like 546 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: for you? 547 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: Well, as far as just having someone that have my back, 548 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: my mom is on everyone's she's on everyone's but you know, 549 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: like and she's reading the she's reading the contracts and 550 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: being like, this is not gonna fly, this is gonna fly. 551 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 3: I can negotiate on this. I can give some leeway 552 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: on that, but ultimately I care about her pockets, you 553 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: know what I mean. And she's also the CFO of 554 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: the company, Like all the money goes through her and 555 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: everything has to be approved. And obviously she'll have conversations 556 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 3: with me about hey, we're spending this on that, this 557 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 3: cost this, this, this cost that. But she's really like safeguarding, 558 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 3: you know, the legacy that we're building. As far as 559 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 3: being a woman that you know, has to deal with men, 560 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: I think that I hold my own pretty well. I 561 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 3: will beat you up, and it's not and it's not 562 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 3: even it's not even a game. I will beat you up. 563 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: And I my brother too, used to go everywhere with 564 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 3: me and he's like a tall, dark dude. So you're 565 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: not about to start acting family? Yeah, yes, ma'am, it's 566 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 3: a family. 567 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: Affair. 568 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: So you know, you were also the first gun and 569 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 2: artist to do tiny desk. Yes, that's wild that all 570 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: the time they've been doing tiny desk. That's never happened before. 571 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it's kind of crazy. 572 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: Your Tiny Desk was amazing. 573 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, thank You's I didn't. Yeah, I hope 574 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: I get to redo it. I hope I get to 575 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: I was so nervous that day, and I hated it. 576 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: He did a great job on thank you, thank you, 577 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: thank you. 578 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 579 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: Well I'm sure you will do it again though, because 580 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: obviously you have new material and new music to be 581 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: able to do that. 582 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go beg them and 583 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 3: be like, guys, I need to redo, I need to redo. 584 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: Let's let's run that one back. 585 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: Like hundreds of thousand of music right away. I remember 586 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: when it came out, No. 587 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 3: For sure, for sure, no, no. I did enjoy it, 588 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: but I was so nervous that, like my voice was 589 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 3: cracking the whole time. And I remember listening back to 590 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: it and I was just like, oh, it's like people 591 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: come to the concerts and they hear me actually sing, 592 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: you know. But then it was just like that was 593 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: a whole different situation, but shout out to Tiny Dusk. 594 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: I love them and they've done so much for our culture. 595 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: So it looked like a fun time too, like everybody 596 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: was having fun. 597 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: All right. 598 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 2: What's been the most surreal experience for you so far 599 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 2: to this point, Like something that you're like, man, I 600 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 2: can't believe this happened. 601 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 3: Wow, that's well actually seriously opening for Sabrina. For MSG, 602 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: that was crazy. I was like I had to think 603 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: about it maybe yesterday and I was like, yo, do 604 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 3: you remember when you were like in your mom's house 605 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 3: in Ghana, like making songs and hoping that something would happen, 606 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: and like this is what four or five years later, 607 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: and this is where you're at. This is you need 608 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 3: to think about that. So that has been surreal. That 609 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: was number one, and I think number two was working 610 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: with Babyface. 611 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: Wowka legends. 612 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. It's like I had to once again 613 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: pinch myself. This is a man whose music I love, 614 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: the Waiting to Exhale soundtrack, Like his music has soundtracked 615 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: so many moments of growth and of realization from my life. 616 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 3: And to be sitting across from him and he's like, yeah, 617 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 3: call me Kenny and he's like writing, and he takes 618 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 3: feedback on board. So while he's asking me my opinion 619 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: on things that he's like writing and doing, and it's like, oh, 620 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: like Babyface respects me. That's crazy. 621 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: That's funny. You said that. 622 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 2: We had a whole conversation the other day about the 623 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: best soundtracks ever, and Black Panther was I think for 624 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,239 Speaker 2: the most recent times that would make the list. But 625 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: we also, I said, Waiting to Exhale, it's definitely up there. 626 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: And as far as top soundtracks, I had Prince Preparand 627 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 2: at number one though, and so because Rolling Stone had 628 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 2: that at number one, and I agree with that. 629 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: I agree with you on that too. I think I 630 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 3: would put I'm not gonna lie waiting to Exhale, I 631 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: think should be top five though. Yeah, when you think 632 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: about the impact of those songs and the fact that 633 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 3: he got all these women together and told this really 634 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: incredible story across like. 635 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 2: Twelve Oh my god, you never forget the eleven years. 636 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: What out of my life. 637 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: Besides the kids, I have nothing to show. 638 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: And I was your secretary, not even secretary iconic. You know, Listen, 639 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 2: music is really like the soundtrack to our lives, and 640 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: so you do this so well. 641 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: I think. 642 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: Navy, who runs the boards and he's also a DJ. 643 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: He was saying how how Princess Going Digital was like 644 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: the soundtrack for all of Williamsburg and Brooklyn, like for 645 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: the whole entire He was like, that is a song. 646 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 2: Isn't amazing to you to see like just your tic 647 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: the tiktoks that people do to your music. 648 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 3: And it's so incredible. But I think that it doesn't 649 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: shock me because when I make music, I really make it, like, oh, 650 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: I need the girls to feel sexy like Princess Going Digital. 651 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: I was like, I want girls this to be their anthem, 652 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: you know, and all the alt girls and all the 653 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: gays and all the guy like that was really like, uh, 654 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 3: it was. It was a goal for me. So to 655 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: see it manifest like that, and to see people making 656 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: tiktoks and dancing to it, and to see the girls 657 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: outside like yes, take me out the streets, I'm like, yeah, 658 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: I feel I feel blessed. I feel like I've achieved 659 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: the goal. 660 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine what your dms are like from 661 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: the people that you touched with your music honestly for 662 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: real though, no facts, because like I said, music is 663 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: something that is therapeutic for a lot of people, and 664 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: the way that you represent everybody so like, it's just amazing. 665 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much. I appreciate that coming from you. 666 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: It's very touching. 667 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: Thank you. 668 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: Listen, it's not gonna be long from now when people 669 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: talk about the icon that you are. 670 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 3: Oh wow, wow, whoa, that's huge. No, I mean yeah, 671 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 3: from your from your lips to God's ears. You know. 672 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: Well, listen, thank you so much for coming through, and 673 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: I hope that you continue to come by as because 674 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: as we're watching you. 675 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: When is the tour over? 676 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: Oh man, this October fifteen? And then you're right back right, yes, ma'am, 677 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: I'm all for two weeks okay. And then I got 678 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: to ask you this, what do you do for fun? 679 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: I sleep? 680 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: I sleep? 681 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm a sleeper. I'm a real sleeper. Like that's 682 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 3: my that's my jam. I sleep okay ye. 683 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: And then moving forward, what have you learned from past 684 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: relationships to what you do once moving forward? 685 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,239 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a great question. I think that I'm a 686 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 3: true lover girl. I recently came to that conclusion, and 687 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: I think that what I'm really seeking is someone that 688 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 3: is going to give to me as much as I'm 689 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: willing to give to them. You know, like I want 690 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 3: someone that's equally yoked mentally, spiritually, financially, but also someone 691 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 3: that's like fun and daring and that's gonna push me 692 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: to be the best that I can be. So yeah, 693 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: look for love. 694 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: That's a lot. I don't know if you get all 695 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: them things. 696 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: You know, No, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. I 697 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: believe it. I believe it. God is sending my blessing 698 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: right now. My blessing is on the way right now. 699 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: I know it. Blessing might be your damn soon. 700 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: Right all right, well thank you, and you guys, make 701 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: sure roses are red, tears are blue. I found Baby 702 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: Extended Play amazing. It's a good time. It is sexy. 703 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: It's great for no matter what mood it is that 704 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: you're in. I want to say that I love Angels 705 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: and Tibet. 706 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: That is my song too. It's just the vibe. It's 707 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: like very you know, a song like like Bohemian Rhapsody. 708 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: How that song is just incorporates like so many different 709 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: feels and queen and just everything, Like I just love 710 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: what it is. That you do because I'm a music 711 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: lover and I love all different types of gimers of music, 712 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: and I have also always hated that people have to 713 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: be pigeonholed into different categories. So I appreciate what it 714 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: is that you bring to the table. 715 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you, and thank you 716 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: so much for having me. I had such a great time. 717 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: All right, She's amazing, guys, I'm a ray 718 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: Well