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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Milly to Jericho Daniel Henderson,

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Speaker 1: and we're with you today to talk about film.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm great? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I will say that I am officially severed from my job.

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Speaker 1: Oh so I am untethered from the company that I

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Speaker 1: used to do.

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Speaker 2: That, I mean we could start talking major shit, start

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Speaker 2: dropping bombs. Does that mean secrets come out? Millie?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I saw this multiple times when I worked at

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Speaker 1: this my prior company. People cutting a doughnut hole in half.

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Speaker 1: The fuck that too, is depraved behavior. A donut hole

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Speaker 1: is not a full donut, It is a small hole.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that somebody was in there being like, well,

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Speaker 1: I just want half of this tiny two inch hole.

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Speaker 2: Now, you know when I cut a donut hole in

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Speaker 2: half and I taught my goddaughter this and it blew

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Speaker 2: her little tiny fucking mind. When I'm making a donut

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Speaker 2: whole ice cream sandwich, Yes, I see that shit all

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Speaker 2: the time in academia, or people will be cutting bagels

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Speaker 2: in half and not the sliced way, but like the

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Speaker 2: top way, not the horizontal way, but vertical. Oh god,

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Speaker 2: you're leaving me with a fucking half moon ass bagel.

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Speaker 1: My point is that who the fuck is gonna come

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Speaker 1: around and take the other half of the donut hole

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Speaker 1: that you.

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Speaker 2: Just thank you, just eat the other half.

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Speaker 1: Calorically speaking, you already down the road, you already spent

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Speaker 1: the calories eating a donut. Just eat the other half

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Speaker 1: of the fucking donut hole. And it just drove me crazy.

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Speaker 1: And especially if like you relate that day, you're like, yo,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go to the break room because they brought

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Speaker 1: donut holes and bagels and I got to see what

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Speaker 1: else is left, and it's a bunch of halfed, sawed

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Speaker 1: off no crusty, fucking pastry bagel holes. I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: this is depraved. No finish what you start, Finish what

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Speaker 1: you start.

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Speaker 2: And look, my apologies to anyone out there who is

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Speaker 2: food insecure that we're just talking about. This isn't this

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Speaker 2: is what's annoying to us about food, But this is

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Speaker 2: part of the food insecurity problem. It's like, who's gonna

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Speaker 2: eat the rest of that shit that you've already put

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Speaker 2: your hands on. It's just gonna get thrown out, Like

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Speaker 2: you're not helping anyone here. And you're not even helping

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Speaker 2: yourself just eat the other half of the donut hole.

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Speaker 2: That is depraved. That is truly like a societal ill.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what has happened to us that that

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Speaker 1: To me, it was sort of signaling like, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: I can't eat this entire donut hole, so I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna half it. And it comes down to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's that same thing. It comes like in your mind

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Speaker 1: as a person who comes in behind it, you're like, well,

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Speaker 1: they already like handled yeah, the whole, so I'm not

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Speaker 1: not so it can't just throw it away. So it's

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Speaker 1: just wasteful. It's just wasteful at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: It's wasteful as fuck. It's selfish and wasteful. Nobody wants

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Speaker 2: anything that you've been If they're pre cut. You can

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Speaker 2: ask for that sometimes too, because I've worked in lots

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Speaker 2: of corporate and office environments. You can ask for whoever's

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Speaker 2: delivering your food or whatever food service you're using to

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Speaker 2: cut them in half at the establishment. Yeah, so that

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Speaker 2: way they're not just wasted because nobody wants like I

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Speaker 2: just saw you come out of the bathroom, and I

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Speaker 2: worked in a lot of places where I guaranteed ninety

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Speaker 1: Look, this is probably not shocking to anybody, but like,

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Speaker 1: there is so much waste in corporate America. It is unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you as somebody. There's actually this incredible

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Speaker 1: article about it. I think it was in either The

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Speaker 1: but whatever, that's for another time. But basically, they had

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Speaker 2: The fuck.

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Speaker 1: And so there was there was like an article that

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Speaker 1: chairs because no, they just were like, well, nobody's here

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Speaker 1: so we'll just put them in the garbage.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you were paying for a giant amount of

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Speaker 2: office space and now you just have a bunch of stuff,

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Speaker 2: it would still cost a fraction of the amount of

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Speaker 2: just rent a storage unit and figure it out at

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Speaker 2: another time. Yeah, like what the fuck?

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Speaker 1: Well, or just like the idea that you wouldn't just

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, if you can't figure it out in

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Speaker 2: the height of COVID, I get it. But like you

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Speaker 2: after everyone crawls out of their houses again, Yeah, the fuck.

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Speaker 1: When it comes down to the donut whole scenario, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's partially a joke, but it's also also a thing

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Speaker 2: Just like got a joke.

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Speaker 1: No, it's to me, it's this thing of like a

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Speaker 1: The the reasons why they give out pastries, at least

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Speaker 1: in my experience, is it's like a salve, or it's

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Speaker 1: a perceived salve for the fact that you're not getting

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Speaker 1: paid enough money to do your job right and to

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Speaker 1: come into work and these things. It's like, we're never

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Speaker 1: gonna give you raises, but we're gonna like do all

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Speaker 1: this other stuff like give you donuts.

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Speaker 2: See, that's why the half of a donut hole is

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Speaker 2: indicative of a larger problem, because it's not only the

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Speaker 2: we're giving you this so that you don't pay attention

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Speaker 2: to how little we're actually paying you to do your job,

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Speaker 2: but it's also look at what you've done to us,

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Speaker 2: look at the austerity measures that you have. You've be

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Speaker 2: imbued in us so that we don't even feel good

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Speaker 2: eating an entire fucking donut hole. You make me feel

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Speaker 2: so shitty here that I feel greedy if I have

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Speaker 2: a whole ass donut hole. Meanwhile, you're pillaging the goddamn

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Speaker 2: the greed is so it's so egregious at the upper level,

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Speaker 2: and you make us feel like we're not even worth

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Speaker 2: a whole ass donut hole you fox.

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Speaker 1: Well, And it's those days are gone for me because

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here and going like, ah, I love donut holes,

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Speaker 1: but it's mostly just like you don't want to commit

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Speaker 1: I'm cutting a donut hole half because I don't want

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Speaker 2: You don't want to come back to the calories, and look,

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Speaker 2: cut it in half of your making an ice cream sandwich.

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Speaker 2: That's my gift to you, I'm solicited gift for our

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Speaker 2: listeners is a donut hole. Ice cream sandwich is the shit.

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Speaker 1: Wait, so you're basically saying, cut a donut hole and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, My goddaughter loves Dunkin donut nuts, munchkins. She loves them,

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Speaker 2: and because she loves them, she can't have them all

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Speaker 2: she's not about leaving a crumb for anybody else. And

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Speaker 2: hanging out and she's like, fucking love munchkins, and I'm like, girl,

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Speaker 2: I feel you. Have you ever done this? And she's like,

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Speaker 2: my parents are trash. No one has ever told me.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, no, that's what I'm here for. I'm here

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Speaker 2: to give you the cut the doughnut hole in half

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Speaker 2: and make the ice cream sandwich. Advice for your life.

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Speaker 2: Your parents should not be telling you that, because that's

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Speaker 2: what you will eat for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. When

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Speaker 2: fucking guts out. We could do anything you want with food,

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Speaker 2: and I will show you all the tricks for snacks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: blew her mind. Well, why don't you tell them what

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Speaker 2: the theme is this week and we can jump on.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are overjoyed to bring you. Is it

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Speaker 1: our third week yeah of Black History Month? Here on

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Speaker 1: the podcast, we are doing a theme called Whoopee Goldberg.

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Speaker 2: In the eighties, I mean that was probably an easy

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Speaker 2: I bet most people probably guessed it. This week, although

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Speaker 2: I feel like they might be having trauma responses because

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Speaker 2: our themes are usually so complicated that they probably thought

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's like, okay, so there are people who

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Speaker 1: are getting the general theme. But as you iron out

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Speaker 1: very early on the pod, you established the rules were

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Speaker 1: you had to get the actual name of the theme

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Speaker 1: in order to be right. Yeah, and that, my friend,

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Speaker 1: ain't never gonna happen. It is never gonna happen because

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Speaker 1: you come up with like the funniest, most specific names

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Speaker 1: we kind of set up this impossible task. But generally,

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Speaker 1: if you Johnna generally guess the theme, that's one thing,

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Speaker 1: But to actually get it right, it's going to be impossible.

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Speaker 2: I feel like people get very creative in the common

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Speaker 2: and that's what I like to see. I know you're

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Speaker 2: not gonna get it, but I love seeing the creativity

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Speaker 2: of what you think it's going to be agreed, agreed.

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Speaker 2: That always kills me soon.

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Speaker 1: The funny thing is that sometimes the theme is Whoopy

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Speaker 1: Goldberg in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee somebody probably probably thought or commented the theme

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Speaker 2: is Molly you and danger girl, or like, yeah, they

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Speaker 2: put some quote, some whoopy quote or something, or like

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Speaker 2: you know, harpo who this woman that wasn't even a

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Speaker 2: WHOOPI quote, but you know, you get it, you get

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Speaker 2: it exactly.

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Speaker 1: Well. I wanted to ask your what are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on whoopee generally and then maybe specifically in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I I've just always adored her. She was an

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Speaker 2: and my grandparents loved her. So we would always watch

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Speaker 2: like the Comic Relief specials and you know, her specials,

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Speaker 2: and I just always thought she was so weird and

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Speaker 2: wild and funny. Yeah, when I started seeing her in movies,

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Speaker 2: I was excited. I was very excited. And I'll say

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Speaker 2: this too, she's a great actor. Yeah, like period point blame.

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Speaker 2: She's a great actor. What cracks me up about our

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Speaker 1: You're going first, right, all right?

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Speaker 2: I am so. My movie was released after the Color

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Speaker 3: She's just your average, hard working burglar.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a one sentence synopsis. Bookseller by day

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Speaker 2: her own freedom per faction. Eh, maybe so. Right off

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00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: the bat, the setup of this movie is wild. She's

432
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: a bookseller and an ex convict who is a thief

433
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: at night, Like she is still a thief. And I

434
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 2: don't think it's ever really laid out what she went

435
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: to jail for, but you assume it's stealing, but she's

436
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: still doing it. But I just love the fact that

437
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: this is a movie set in San Francisco and she

438
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: works at a bookstore and is like deeply San Franciscan.

439
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 2: From my view, the character is deeply San Franciscan. She's

440
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: also dressed like Vicky Lawrence and Mama's family in the beginning,

441
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: which just gives you a glimpse into the amount of

442
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: character work we're about to see for the next hour

443
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: and a half. Right, Like, she's smoking a cigarette and

444
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: going up to this house in this big, fancy neighborhood

445
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: and she's basically just breaking into a safe to steal

446
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: some jewels and some stamps. But what's really weird and

447
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: funny about this character that I've noticed instantly and I

448
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,959
Speaker 2: cannot understand why, and I could not find any research

449
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: to back up why this decision was made she wears

450
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: blue contact lenses throughout the movie.

451
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I was about to ask you about this because

452
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: there's a close.

453
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: Upon her face in this scene and you're like, her

454
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: eyes blue.

455
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: I was like, her eyes are popping in this movie,

456
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, I wonder, did I not notice

457
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: that she had like light eyes or is she wearing

458
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: contact lenses?

459
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: Absolute contact lenses? You just have absolute and it's never explained.

460
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: And look, I know it happens. I know there are

461
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: black people in the Blue Eyes, come on, But the

462
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: fact is that we know who Whoopy Goldberg is at

463
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: this point, and nobody thought to explain the choice for her.

464
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

465
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: And I didn't read the original novel obviously, so I

466
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: don't know if the original character was supposed to be white.

467
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: And they're like, let's just pop some contact lenses and

468
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: then it'll be fine. We can't just let her be

469
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: Whoopy gold like, they couldn't just let her have her

470
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: natural eyes. Yeah, So I don't understand the choice that

471
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: was made there.

472
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: Am I thinking that maybe it's kind of awesome that

473
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: maybe she was like, you know what, I want blue

474
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: eyes in this movie and they're like, all right, Whoop

475
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: be anything you say and.

476
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: She's like, I got home.

477
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: Let's not explain it at all. Let's just let me

478
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: have my life.

479
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 2: I hope that's what I happened. That's what I was

480
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: looking for. I'm like, I'm looking for like a quip

481
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: or an interview or something where she was just like

482
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: I just want fucking wanted it.

483
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

484
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 2: So she's in this house and we have this really

485
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: funny introduction to her as a thief because she, you know,

486
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: kind of almost gets caught and just goes into hysterics

487
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 2: and pretends she works for someone else down the street

488
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: and then like runs away. Then we get to see

489
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: her real style in her real life when she gets home.

490
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: So she's stolen these jewels, she's got these stamps, and

491
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: she's at home with her best friend Carl, who was

492
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 2: played by Bobcat Goldway, who in the eighties was so

493
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 2: fucking funny to me because I didn't know what cocaine was,

494
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: Like it would be a couple of years so I

495
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: knew what cocaine was. So I just thought, this guy

496
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 2: is so weird and hilarious, Like he would always do

497
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: like the you know, his shoulders were always up and

498
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: he was doing the weird voices, and he was always like, ah,

499
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: like it was just he was just funny to me.

500
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: We both got a record about loving Bobcat obviously now

501
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: like he's super cool and directs movies and he's amazing.

502
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, it was it was so funny

503
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: that I actually thought that that voice was his actual

504
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: voice me too.

505
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: For you know.

506
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: And then when he grew up and was, you know,

507
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: kind of like doing things behind the scenes more, I

508
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's not how he actually talks all

509
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: the time. It was just like a shock comedic effect.

510
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: But he's so great in this movie. And I love

511
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: Tenderly because I'm a tender bitch. I love that he

512
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: like liked her so much, Like he was like, you're

513
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: my best friend. I want to take care of you,

514
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: want to protect you. And I'm like, ah, Carl, these.

515
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: Are best fucking friends. And he's a dog groomer in

516
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: the like he's just it's a tender weirdo. I love

517
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: it so much. But he's great. He is so fucking

518
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: great and funny in this movie. And I just I

519
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: love their relationship, Like you said, I love that. I

520
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: love their friendship for sure. But we get to see

521
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: you know again. The Whoope character's name is Bernice Bernice

522
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: roadent Bar and we get to see Bernice in her

523
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 2: regular element, and I just I feel like every outfit

524
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 2: that Bernice wears in this film is so cool. Like

525
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: the first outfit we see she's in like a leather jacket,

526
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: a red kerchief and like turquoise jeans with sunglasses. She

527
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: just looks so fucking cool throughout this Yeah, I can't

528
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: get over the looks. The looks of this movie were incredible.

529
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: So then you know, we see her at work at

530
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: the bookstore and it's very funny because she catches a

531
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 2: thief like right away. He comes up to the registre

532
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 2: with one book and she's like that would be like

533
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 2: sixty bucks and he's like what the fuck. She's like, well,

534
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,239
Speaker 2: I'm charging you for the books in your bag. But

535
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 2: she does it in such a cool way. But then

536
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: we get to meet another prime character in this film,

537
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: Ray played by G. W. Bailey, who most people will

538
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: know from the Police Academy movies. And Ray is a

539
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: cop and we find out that she owes Ray twenty

540
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. We don't yet know why. In the beginning

541
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: of the film, but later it comes out that he's

542
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: basically blackmailing her. So he found her prints on a

543
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: set of gloves at a job that she pulled before

544
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: she went to prison, and he's threatening her with going

545
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: back to prison and releasing the at this evidence if

546
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: she doesn't give him twenty thousand dollars. So she's basically like, hey,

547
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: I need your help if you want this twenty thousand bucks,

548
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: I need your help to sell these jewels and this

549
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: stamp because my fence basically died. So he sets her

550
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: up with this pawn shop guy, and the pawnshop guy

551
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 2: sets her up with a dentist, and the dentist is

552
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: played by Leslieann Warren. She's playing doctor Cynthia Sheldrake and

553
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: Leslie and Warren is so fucking funny in this movie. Yes,

554
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: I can barely stand it. Yeah, she is so fucking funny.

555
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: So the pawn shop guy's like, well, I can't really

556
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: take most of this that you're bringing to me, but

557
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: if you need money, go see this dentist because she

558
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: has a job. And the primary setup for the film

559
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: is Leslie and Warren. Doctor Cynthia wants her jewelry back

560
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: from her ex husband, so She's hiring Bernice to go

561
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: to his apartment, which she weirdly has a key to,

562
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: and she's like, I need you to go get this jewelry.

563
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: I don't want the irs to find out, like I'm

564
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: mostly working cash and you know it's I just need

565
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: you to go get this from him, and she kind

566
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: of gives gives her the coordinates for how to get

567
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: get into his apartment. She's also the worst dentist since

568
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: Steve Martin in Little Shop of Cars, Like, she is

569
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: so bad at dentistry. It is so this scene is

570
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 2: so fucking funny, where basically Bernice is there to like

571
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,239
Speaker 2: just get hired for the job, but she gives her

572
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: a full exam and fills a cavity anyway, and it

573
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: is just so funny.

574
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: Also, this place is fucked up. Yeah, primarily if you've

575
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: gone to a dentist before, they like kick the chair

576
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: back so they can come at your mouth from the top.

577
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: These motherfuckers are coming at it from like the front,

578
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: like they're basically like, just open your mouth and let's

579
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: just start going to town. I'm like, wait a minute,

580
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait a minute. Don't you want to

581
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: like push me back a little bit, you get a

582
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: better range, you get a better look into my mouth

583
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: coming in from the top instead of looking at it

584
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: straight on. No, that was sus from from jump where

585
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: I was like this, this dentist is not good.

586
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: Well, also there's a lot of shit that's us about

587
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: this dentists. That being the primary flag, yes, but there's

588
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: also these indicators like the fact that she only takes

589
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: cash and she at one point says like, well, most

590
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: of my patients are immigrants, and I'm like, oh shit,

591
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: so you're just taking money And look, I've been to

592
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: dentists like this in my life. Yes, where she's doing

593
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: the bear men and doing it in cash just so

594
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: she can fill her own fucking pockets. But the fucking

595
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: hygienis and this is something that I also love about

596
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: this movie. There's a lot of dick punching and ball

597
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: punching in this movie, and the hygienis basically, while he's

598
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: trying to do a preliminary look inside of her mouth,

599
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: thing is like rubbing his crotch on her hand. That's

600
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: I'm hanging on the edge of the chair and she

601
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: just grabs his nuts and is like the fuck dude.

602
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: Her niece does not care, does not care.

603
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: She definitely does some dick kicks and some ball hugs.

604
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: She loves a dick kick, which to eight nine ten

605
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: year old Danielle height of comedy. Oh yeah, height of comedy.

606
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: And they deserved it. So there's that.

607
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely. So this dentist as fucked, but like gives her

608
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: this job and she goes to the husband's apartment and

609
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: it's kind of like this stereotypical eighties gross bachelor apartment.

610
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: I definitely could do a whole episode talking about the

611
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: apartments in both of our films.

612
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, big time.

613
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: But she gets the jewelry. Its in like a lean

614
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: cuisine box in the freezer, which is again so eighties.

615
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: It hurts. But he comes home mid heist, so she

616
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: has to hide in the closet, but she accidentally leaves

617
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: her like little heist briefcase in the bedroom, So now

618
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: she's worried. She's in the closet, she's hiding. He's having

619
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: sex with some woman that she can't see. Very loud,

620
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: real loud. He comes and opens the closet and like

621
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: to get something out of it. She's face the face

622
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 2: with his dom and he closes the closet and locks

623
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: her in and then while she's still in the apartment,

624
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: somebody comes in and kills this husband. So when she

625
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: does finally get out of the closet, he's dead with

626
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: this weird tool sticking out of his chest and her

627
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: briefcase is gone. So the dentist doctor Cynthia is taken

628
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: into custody under suspicion of murdering her ex husband, and

629
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: again Leslie and Warren in this scene is so fucking funny.

630
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: Talking to her lawyer, I couldn't breathe. I was laughing

631
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: so hard. She's just like, like rich woman who never

632
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: expected herself to be in this position.

633
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

634
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: But at the point of the scene is that basically

635
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: she sets she sets Bernice up for She kind of

636
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: frames Bernice and it's like, I know someone who is

637
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: in the apartment who might have been stealing, So she

638
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: sets Bernice up for the murder, which then puts some

639
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: cop on the case. One of the cops is John

640
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: Goodman haha, yeah. The other cop is and A Salvo.

641
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 2: They are the weirdest team up and I fucking love

642
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: it so hard.

643
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: Dude, I could not get over this duo the entire film.

644
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is their vibe.

645
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 2: This is so such a weird vibe. Detective Nice Wander

646
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: and Detective Toddras are their names, which they never say,

647
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: I don't think at all of the movie. But it

648
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: is the weirdest vibe because it's not bumbling idiot vibe.

649
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: It's just like we're competent detectives, but we kind of

650
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: still can't figure out what's going on here in this case. Yeah,

651
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: they're just always a beat behind. It's very very funny

652
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: to watch them together. Yeah, and she takes the lead

653
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: a lot, which I like because he's just like, I'll

654
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: you do whatever you want. You do whatever you want.

655
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 2: So she's like kicking doors that are reinforced with steel

656
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: bars and like she's really fucking herself up, and he's like,

657
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: you do it whatever you want, dude, I'm your partner,

658
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: mare to support you.

659
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

660
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: So interesting. But they basically they're trying to find Bernice

661
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: and they go to like her. Like she's again just

662
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: so funny because she gives them her address in place

663
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: of business and it's like an empty lot and a

664
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: gay and lesbian American Indian Task Force storefront. So she's

665
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 2: just she's she plays the system. You get the feeling

666
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: that Bernice plays the system constantly, like she's not you're

667
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: not gonna where she lives, you're not gonna know how

668
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: to find her, You're never gonna be able to get

669
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: a beat on her, right, And that's probably because she

670
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 2: planned on continuing to steal when she got out of prison.

671
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: Right.

672
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: So, at one point we see her in her actual

673
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: space and she calmly makes a sandwich while there are

674
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: cops screaming up to her door. They weld her door

675
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: open in like a big pill shape, which is weird

676
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: to me. I've never seen that before, and it trips

677
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: in alarm and like doors starts slamming and like one

678
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: of the idiot cops start shooting, and they basically just

679
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: rip this apartment to fucking shreds, trying to find her

680
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: or her tools to prove that she killed this guy.

681
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: But she's hiding behind a fake closet wall in her

682
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 2: bedroom because she's a fucking genius. And she realizes at

683
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: one point, after talking to doctor Cynthia's lawyer, that the

684
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: only way for her to get out of this is

685
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: to find the real person who actually committed the murder.

686
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: That's the only way she'll clear her own name. So

687
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: the rest of the movie is basically her doing that.

688
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 2: I will not ruin it for you. I will say

689
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: there are some sterling Carl moments that come in during this.

690
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 2: He's not really like her, like they haven't teamed up,

691
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: but he's helping her in the way that only Carl can.

692
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: So at one point they're at a bar and he says,

693
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: I'll have a bucket of Cure Royal. Like he's just

694
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: so awkwardly sitting there trying to talk to people. And

695
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: then at one point he tells Bernice, if you coat

696
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: your stomach with olive oil, you can drink all night

697
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: and not get drunk.

698
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: Okay. I was like, is that real? Is that a

699
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: real thing or made for the film?

700
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: I could understand if that was real, somebody would have

701
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: discovered that a century ago. There's no way that is real.

702
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: I'm thinking you're mixing olive oil olive oil and it

703
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: does not coat your stomach like a Pepto bismoal commercial,

704
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: you know, when they show the pepto going in and

705
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: just like, oh it's gonna coat your stomach. No, you're

706
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: gonna drink it and then you're gonna pour alcohol on

707
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: top of it. And it's gonna make the puke come

708
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: out faster as far as I'm concerned.

709
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, is that an old tail that

710
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: somehow made its way to this movie or was it

711
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: created just for the film.

712
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: I was.

713
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: I was very confused, but I was like, brilliant. If true,

714
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: I need to try it.

715
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: Let's try it. Try it. You go first, you try

716
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: it and tell me how hard you puke now that

717
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: you've made your aesoftly, it's like a lubed up expressway

718
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: coated an olive oil.

719
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 1: Oh shit.

720
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: But Carl also gets taken in for hitting. At some point,

721
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: he says a series of wild shit in a very

722
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven Bobcat Goldway way to the point where

723
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: the cops are like, we have got to let this

724
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: guy go as soon as possible, like there's no way

725
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: we're going to get anything from him. But also we

726
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: cannot take it like he is just rambling and shouting

727
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: and it's fucking hilarious, hilarious. It's a very funny scene

728
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: to me. So the movie again will not ruin the

729
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: ending for you, and never do. But to watch Bernice

730
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: try to kind of figure out who killed this guy

731
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: is really exciting. You're not ever really sure if she's

732
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: going to do it when you find out the real

733
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: killer situation, it's surprising and cool and I just, yeah,

734
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: I just I loved her going around to all these

735
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: places and putting the puzzle together and meeting like a

736
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: weird artist and I don't know, I just I loved it.

737
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, getting almost chommed by a Doberman lot of a

738
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: dog trauma so prevalent in the Also, that part with

739
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: the artist is so crazy because so there's a scene

740
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: where she goes to the law the artist loft of

741
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: of of this person. Right the artist guy owns a

742
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: giant Doberman that kind of lunges at her at whoopees

743
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: character when she arrives, right, and then he immediately goes

744
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: to the freezer. He's holding a machete and not a machete,

745
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: a a meat cleaver, yeah, in his hand. Goes to

746
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: the freezer, pulls out like a package of frozen ground

747
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: beef and then takes the meat cleaver and like slices

748
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: it in half and then just like gives one half

749
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: of this tray of frozen ground beef to the dog,

750
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: Like damn, that's how you feature dog.

751
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: Dude, it's so intense. I thought for sure that Doberman's

752
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: were going to be a much bigger problem in my

753
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: life based on all the movies I saw in the eighties.

754
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's how you can bad like this dog

755
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: will fuck you up as you had. The Doberman's were

756
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: the rott Whilers of the eighties essentially.

757
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: And then feeding them like raw meat was the indication

758
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: that they were gonna as nails.

759
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: They were fucking nails. And I've I've had a Rottwhiler,

760
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 2: I had a rot Wilder in the past, and they're sweethearts,

761
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: and Dobermans might be too, but I've never fucked with

762
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: a Doberman. Because of the eighties and the movies I saw.

763
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, this is like a trope if

764
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: eighties movies is like the vicious dog that gets fed

765
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: raw meat and uh, it's gonna it's gonna fuck with

766
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: the protagonist or somebody, or it's usually a villain. That's

767
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: like how the how a villain in an eighties comedy

768
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: goes down is that they're like in an alleyway and

769
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: it's like ten Doberman's and they're all like slobbering waiting

770
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: to chomp.

771
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: So they've got on metal call like link chain, metal

772
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: collars like thick ones. It's fucking amazing. But I just, yeah,

773
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: I think this movie is funny. The plot is funny

774
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: and interesting, and it's just again we'll be at the

775
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: height of her comedy movie glory.

776
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: I agree. I loved it too. I haven't seen this

777
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: movie probably well, god, I probably have seen it only

778
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: once and I kind of barely remember it, but I

779
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: think it was on cable once and that's where I

780
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: saw it. But it was like, she's got like moments

781
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: of legit great acting in this film, even in the

782
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: content context of it being kind of like a crime comedy.

783
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: She's got like actual chaps. She's one of the best

784
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: smoking actors I've seen. I realized. I was like, she's

785
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: a good smoke actor, you know, yep, Like she knows

786
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: how to smoke cigarettes properly, and she can do things

787
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: that act really well while smoking, which I think is

788
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: a skill. I have to say it is. And I

789
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: just like I adore the world, you know, cause again

790
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: it's this whole like kind of thing where I'm like,

791
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: whoop is kind of again like in her like uniqueness

792
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: and her clothes and her apartments and her kind of

793
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: look and uh in San Francisco, which you know, she's

794
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: like a wow, she owns a bookstore.

795
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: You know.

796
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: It's like these are like things that I don't know,

797
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: I think I internalized as a kid in thought. It's

798
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: you could be like a cool lady who owns a

799
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: bookstore and then maybe gets up to some weird stuff

800
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: at night, but has like this really wacky best friend

801
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: who you know, washes dogs. Like all of these like

802
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: little you know, kind of character traits were always like

803
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: really fun and unique to me as a kid.

804
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, I agree. Could not agree more. And your

805
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: movies too, Like her apartment in your movie was my

806
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: dream as a kid.

807
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna be another one of these things. Where So

808
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: I told myself this week because the past several weeks

809
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: of the podcast, I've gone so hard on films that

810
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: it's kind of like I've found myself going I gotta

811
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: like take it down a notch. So I have extreme

812
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: passion for this film. I'm gonna give you an appropriate

813
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: amount of it, and then all the rest of it

814
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: I'll just have to write about on my substack or something,

815
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: because I just can't believe how much I love this movie.

816
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: My movie for the theme, Whoopy Goldberg in the Eighties,

817
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: is from nineteen eighty six. It was written by David H. Franzoni, JW. Melville,

818
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: Patricia Irving, and Christopher Thompson, directed by Penny Marshall, and

819
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 1: it's called Jumping Jackflash.

820
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: The balance of power, the safety of America, and the

821
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: fate of the free world are all in the hands

822
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 3: of a woman named Whoopee.

823
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so up top, if you're a longtime listener of

824
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: this podcast, you already know how I feel about at

825
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: least one aspect.

826
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: Of this film.

827
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: And I'm realizing now that I probably should have said

828
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: spoiler alert all those times, because it's basically the end

829
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: of the film, the big reveal at the end of

830
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: the film that I love so much that I can't

831
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: even express it properly on a podcast. Okay, but I'm

832
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: gonna say I'm gonna talk about it again, so I

833
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: will say I'm spoiling this almost forty year old movie

834
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: and plays fast forward. If you'd not like that to happen, Okay,

835
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: there's your warning.

836
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 2: That's fair.

837
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: Okay, So, needless to say, I adored this movie when

838
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: I was a kid, like, watched it over and over

839
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: anytime it was on TV. I actually think we know,

840
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: we didn't own a lot of physical media my family

841
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: back then, but I think we might have. Actually I

842
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: own this one on VHS. I don't remember. And in

843
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: all honesty, it's such a perfect movie for me as

844
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: a kid because it was funny, it was weird, it

845
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: had action, It had like a boomer nostalgia soundtrack of

846
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: like you know, Motown and you know the Rolling Stones

847
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: and everything. It was Saturday Night Live adjacent, very important

848
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: for me as a kid. And yet I just realized

849
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: yesterday that it was directed by Penny Marshall. Really, I

850
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: literally had no idea that Penny Marshall directed this film.

851
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think that's like a common thing,

852
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: unless you know. I have had to look up a

853
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 2: list of films that she's directed recently, which is the

854
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: only reason that I knew. But I don't think it's

855
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: like it was out there as like a Penny Marshall joint.

856
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: Well, it was her first film, right, so I'll just

857
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: use that as an excuse. But also just as a

858
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: person who's watched this movie like twenty time, and I

859
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: didn't know who directed it. That is irresponsible even if

860
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: I was ten or eight. I'm being very hard on myself,

861
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: but I'm just shocked that I didn't know that Penny

862
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: Marshall directed this film. So yeah, here is a one

863
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: sentence synopsis of Jumping Jackflash. A quirky bank employee finds

864
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: herself in the middle of an international espionage plot after

865
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: beginning an instant message conversation with a British spy code

866
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: name jump a Jack Flash.

867
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: Very good, very true, very good.

868
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: Okay, So generally Woopee plays a woman named Terry Doolittle.

869
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 1: She's a single woman living in New York. She works

870
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: as a bank employee. Okay. And when I say that,

871
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: she's not like a bank teller, but she's more like

872
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: somebody who kind of works on the back end in

873
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: this like room full of other people that are kind

874
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: of doing the same thing. They're doing these like international

875
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: transfers over a computer.

876
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: Okay.

877
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: And I'll say right now, if the site of Old

878
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 1: Tech makes you fucking sick as it does for us.

879
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 2: Get rid about to be nauseous, you'd be so fucking

880
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 2: nauseous in this movie.

881
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Barfarama for you, because these computers,

882
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: we're talking giant fucking computers, gray gray, with like the

883
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: green fonts and like the loud, clunky keyboards.

884
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: We're talking ms dos and like the there's like a.

885
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: Running joke in the film that one of their computers

886
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: is so screwed up that it's getting like Russian television

887
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: like broadcasts into the computer, which.

888
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

889
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: I feel like that was like a boomer joke that

890
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: got like kind of crammed in there, because if you're

891
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: a real computer and you're like, how is that even

892
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: possible back then when there was no computers were not

893
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: on the grid, and blah blah blah. I don't know,

894
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: but anyway, oh my grid. It's a joke that keeps

895
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: happening in the film. But anyway, So Whoopy's co workers

896
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 1: in the bank include Carol Kine, John Lovitz, Phil Hartman,

897
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: Recipeace King, and Stephen Collins, who is the dad from

898
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: Sabbath Heaven and has like a barrage of terrible shit

899
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: on his Wikipedia page and you just have to look

900
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: it up. It's not great. Anyway. The thing about this

901
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: office is that, like everybody is, they have this like

902
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: great office camaraderie, right, Like they they all have like

903
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: love for each other and they have each other's backs.

904
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: It's very cute. They're having a party for one of

905
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: their coworkers who's about to have a baby. And this

906
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: is when you kind of realize that Terry the Whoopee

907
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: character is kind of like this misfix it of the office,

908
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: Like she's kind of like helping everybody out. She fixes

909
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: people's computers and everyone really loves her. Okay, And this

910
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: is when I started thinking about her character in this film,

911
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: because now that I'm watching this as an adult, all right,

912
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Terry Doolittle and I'm like, man, she

913
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: has got that black nerd girl joy and I absolutely

914
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: fucking love it. Like she's her role in this movie.

915
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: She's like a fun, funky dresser. She's got like fun

916
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: little toys at her desk, you know what I mean.

917
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: You find out at some point she loves classic movies

918
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: and rock and roll music, and her apartment is this

919
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: like you know, pop culture heaven of like giant toothbrushes

920
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: and cool posters. And I'm like, when I was a

921
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: kid and I was watching this, I was like, yes, obviously,

922
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: like she's so cool and like Terry Doolittle rules. But

923
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: now I'm like, have we all like unknowingly modeled ourselves

924
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: after Terry Doolittle? Like she's kind of the ideal like

925
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: cool adult. You know, I don't know if you think that.

926
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: I thought that she was the only example I had

927
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: as a kid that I can even have that life, yes,

928
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 2: and aspire to that.

929
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 3: She was a.

930
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: Computer nerd, do you know what I'm saying? Like the

931
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: think about like the gravity of that she was like

932
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: an eighties black woman who was a computer nerd but

933
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: was like cool as shit, And I just was like,

934
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: what a character. I can't even believe that that happened

935
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: in eighty six.

936
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: You know, it's pretty cool.

937
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: It's great. So Terry and her coworkers they got a

938
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: dick boss named mister Page, and he's constantly upper ass

939
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: all day every day. But in spite of this, the

940
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: day of the baby shower, she's about to clock out

941
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: for the evening and she like walks past her computer

942
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, bleep, bleep bloop. It's

943
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: a random message from someone. So we've established that she's

944
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: doing international bank transfers, so she's communicating with people overseas.

945
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: Her boss keeps telling her, don't make friends with these

946
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: people you're supposed to just like say, end of transaction

947
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: or whatever. Okay, but she does because she's cool and

948
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: she's got a great personality and people like her. So

949
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: she sees that this message pops up and she's like,

950
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: huh huh, And it is a person that eventually identifies

951
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: themselves with the code name Jumping Jack Flash. Okay. You

952
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: find out at some point that he's apparently a British

953
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: spy who is stuck in an unnamed Eastern European country

954
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: and the KGB is about to close in on him,

955
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: which you know, nineteen eighties Russia and the KGB were

956
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: definitely on people's minds in this era, right, But that

957
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: he needs to be extricated by the British consulate in

958
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: America to come home, right, because he actually lives in

959
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: New York. There's a scene where she actually goes to

960
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: his apartment, which I think is wild. But so basically,

961
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: this person, you know Jack as he's called, he sets

962
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: up a thing that says, hey, will you carry a

963
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: message to the consulate for me so I can get

964
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: out of here and come home, And of course it

965
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: sets off this whole series of events of people who

966
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: are like looking to keep Jack in his position to

967
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: eventually be killed by the KGB. Right, and essentially Terry

968
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: takes on the task of like saving this guy's life.

969
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: Like she spends her evenings in the bank messaging back

970
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: and forth with Jack. And this is like this whole

971
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: sequence or the sequences that happen in this movie about

972
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: the instant messaging thing, like, cause she's beginning to get

973
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: intrigued by him. She's like, huh, what's his vibe? You

974
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, eventually she reveals that she's

975
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: a woman and that he's a man, and huh, maybe

976
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: sparks are flying over the internet, right, the proto internet.

977
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: We don't even know eighty six Internet. But this whole

978
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: stuff reminded me. It just like rocketed me back to

979
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: my early Internet days where I was like chatting with

980
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: people aka boys on AOL instant messenger and just the

981
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: thrill of it, right, just the thrill of like stay

982
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 1: up all night instant messaging with people was great.

983
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: I don't think I did that. I mean, I do

984
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: know what you mean, though, Like the just meeting people

985
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: online was a thrill, but I never really did the

986
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: messenger thing because I had I was an adult by

987
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: that point, so I had jobs and I couldn't afford

988
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: a computer. So I love hearing out people being like

989
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: we met on AOL like instant Messenger, and I'm like,

990
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: what it?

991
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, so your acting is if you're like twenty

992
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: years older than me, you didn't like we were kind

993
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: of like the round the same age. I mean, I

994
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: had instant Messenger, a instant Messenger until like my mid

995
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: to late twenties, like that technology was still around, and

996
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: then I don't know what came after it, friends her

997
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: or something.

998
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. No, Like I knew it existed, but

999
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 2: I couldn't afford a computer, so I didn't personally use it.

1000
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean I was all about AOL back

1001
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: even in high school when my parents got a free

1002
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: AOL account, and I use my family computer to like

1003
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: go on message boards to like talk to people who

1004
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: like SKA music, and then we would take it to

1005
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: the instant message and I would would like love love

1006
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: chatting away and it just this movie reminded me of it,

1007
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: like where I was like, oh my god, like what

1008
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 1: a fun world of innocence. Yeah, and chatting to strangers online,

1009
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: so you know, just to like wrap it up a bit,

1010
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Terry persists in this quest to help Jack

1011
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: return to America. There's a lot of like high jinks

1012
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: that happen. At some point, Jack agrees to take Terry

1013
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: to dinner at a fancy restaurant if he makes it back.

1014
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: So there's that, there's that enticing proposal. There was like

1015
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: at least two scenes where I thought this is the

1016
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: height of comedy for me as a kid. There was

1017
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: the scene where she has to sneak into this like

1018
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: galla event at the British Consulate and she dresses like

1019
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 1: what are the Supremes and was just like a little

1020
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: a little flimsy in terms of an entry to get

1021
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: into this like private party, but she manages it and

1022
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: then eventually gets her dress caught in a paper shredder,

1023
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: and I literally thought this was the funniest thing I'd

1024
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: ever seen.

1025
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: That happened a lot in the eighties. Again, paper shredders

1026
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: and Doberman's I thought were gonna be big enemies in

1027
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: my life.

1028
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very like physical comedy, like almost on

1029
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: a like slapstick. I was obsessed with it. But then

1030
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: there's another scene where she's in a phone booth and

1031
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: suddenly the phone booth gets hijacked by this evil operative

1032
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: who's dressed as a tow truck driver. And then all

1033
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the phone booth gets dragged on the

1034
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: back of this tow truck down the streets of Manhattan.

1035
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 2: That was the funniest fucking thing I think I ever

1036
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: seen when I was a kid.

1037
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she screams, I'm a little black woman in

1038
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: a big silver box. Like it was like the like,

1039
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: I thought this entire sequence was so funny. Like, so

1040
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: there's all those moments as a kid that I just

1041
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 1: like really loved, and I actually think they still are funny.

1042
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 1: Like I was laughing at the fucking paper shredding scene.

1043
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: I was like, this is still funny to me. I

1044
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: love that that's still funny to me. But here's the thing. Okay,

1045
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: so we're gonna cut to the end, and like I said,

1046
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm spoiling the movie. Sorry, but I have to because

1047
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: it's my favorite part. All of the trials and tribulations

1048
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: that Terry Doolittle experiences now that she's been thrust into

1049
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: this world eventually pays off because Jack makes it home.

1050
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: He makes his connection point with the help of a

1051
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: couple people actually like Annie Potts. At one point he's

1052
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: a character that helps her. There's also like kind of

1053
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: a a princess character that comes in and sort of

1054
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: helps ease things along. And then you know, unfortunately at

1055
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: the aforementioned Stephen Collin's character comes and helps at some point.

1056
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: So anyway, we're now at the end of the film.

1057
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: Jack is home. He promises that he's going to take

1058
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: her to dinner, but then doesn't show up. So you're thinking, oh,

1059
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: what be No, Like, he's not shown up. She had

1060
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: to eat breadsticks alone for hours and got stood up.

1061
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: But then she's at work and she's like, so depressed

1062
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: that I never got to meet Jack. Bleep bleep bleep.

1063
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: Here's a message from Jack, and she's like, no, you

1064
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: stood me up. I want to talk to you. But

1065
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: then she realizes that he's.

1066
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: In the office.

1067
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: And he's revealed to me Jonathan Price. This is the

1068
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: thing that I have internalized and thought about for the

1069
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: last thirty eight years. Is this world where Whoopee Goldberg

1070
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: falls in love with Jonathan Price.

1071
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: Say more about that.

1072
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: Because it's such a unique pairing of people, and at

1073
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: the time, at least for me, like watching modern entertainment

1074
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: in the eighties, I did not see a lot of

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Speaker 1: interracial couples at all. Yeah, So I was like blown

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Speaker 1: the fuck away that this could happen. Like they're like

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Speaker 1: walking out arm in arm and they're about to like

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Speaker 1: go hook up. Like I was like blown the fuck

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Speaker 1: away by it. And for some reason, I had a

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Speaker 1: crush on Jonathan Price for years because of this movie.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't even know who we were. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know he was a famous actor. I didn't even know

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Speaker 1: he was in Brazil. I just had this like weird

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Speaker 1: childhood crush on Jonathan Price because he fell in love

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Speaker 1: with Whoopy Goldberg. At the end of Jump and Jack, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely a moment where I realize, even now

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Speaker 2: watching it again for the first time in so many years,

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Speaker 2: that she has a real, like you said before, she

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00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: has a real Julia Roberts moment of yes, oh he's

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Speaker 2: here and he's choosing me. I don't think I've seen

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Speaker 2: I didn't up to that point as a child, I'd

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Speaker 2: never seen that. Yeah, with a black woman at the center.

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Speaker 1: She was a cool girl, and I think, to me,

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Speaker 1: I was like, yes, the cool girl can also be

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Speaker 1: a romantic lead.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I mean, yeah, it's pretty special when

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Speaker 2: you realize that as a kid. Yeah, and again, think

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Speaker 2: of the time that we were in, like in the eighties,

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Speaker 2: it was all like fucking statue esque six foot tall

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Speaker 2: blonde models were the only people that got that kind

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Speaker 2: of play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And I just was like wow, and like, like,

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Speaker 1: I swear, this is so corny. I put a lot

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Speaker 1: on this movie and on I know that, but I'm

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00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: here to tell you, like I also will not apologize,

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Speaker 1: but the feeling that I get when Terry finally meets

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Speaker 1: this guy, it just makes me so tinkly and feels

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00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: so happy because it's like, e I don't know. I

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00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: think it's because like I, like I said, I really

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Speaker 1: took to her in this era, and I want she

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00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: had a crush on this guy on the internet, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm glad they got together, Like she saved his life,

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00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: they build a bond. I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Here's here's my question as someone who because I also

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Speaker 2: love this movie, but as someone who has watched this

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Speaker 2: movie a lot. You are on your computer and someone's like, yo,

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Speaker 2: I need help getting out of this unnamed Eastern European country.

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Speaker 2: But you have to figure out my password first using

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Speaker 2: the song Jumping Jack Flash. Whether it's in nineteen eighty

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Speaker 2: seven or present day, are you doing it?

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Speaker 1: Uh, it's a no for me because I just that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of work. Like there was that moment in

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Speaker 1: the movie where I was like, yo, she really like

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Speaker 1: woke up in the middle of the night, was like

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to the song and like take a

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01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: pen to paper and figure it out. I mean I

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01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: would have been like, it's not worth getting out of

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Speaker 1: bed for Like I'm intrigued by this, but that's.

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Speaker 2: A lot in this freezing coal department.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely so, Yeah, you're right. I think that's

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Speaker 1: the magic of the movie is that ultimately she was

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Speaker 1: willing to do that for this guy, which is very

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Speaker 1: cute to.

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Speaker 2: Me, which also speaks to her personality as a character

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Speaker 2: that she's willing to take on this adventure. You know,

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Speaker 2: she wants that kind of adventure in her life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I love it, And like I said, there's just

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Speaker 1: so much love about this film. I mean there's really

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Speaker 1: great cameos, like like I said, just the SNL connection,

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01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: but also like Roscoe Lee Brown and like Michael McKean

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01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: and Tracy Oleman, and you know Jerome. I think it's

1143
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: Jerome Krabbe. Remember we talked about him in Crossing Delancey

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Speaker 1: and he was the asshole husband and Prince of Tides.

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01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: Like I was like, he, of course he's in it.

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01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: If you're talking about international espionage. What a perfect character

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01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: actor for that role, you know. And so I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I just I love this movie. I think I love

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01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: it more now than I did as a kid. And

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01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's possible, because I love a

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Speaker 1: lot and maybe it's because now I know who Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Price is, and you know, obviously I just finished watching

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01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: The Crown, but I was like, oh, remember when you

1154
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: had that weird crush on that guy because of Jumping

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Speaker 1: Jack Flash, Like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That. I love that you had a crush on him.

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Speaker 2: It's like a little eight year old It's so cute.

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Speaker 1: It's pure joy, you know. Like that's the thing to

1159
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: me is that I'm like, you go through these movies

1160
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Speaker 1: from childhood, and some of them don't hold up, and

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01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: everybody's problematic and there's just but but there was this

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Speaker 1: moment that I realized that I want. I was watching

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Speaker 1: this movie again and I was like, I love this

1164
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: movie so much as a kid. It still holds up

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Speaker 1: for me, maybe even more so because now, like I

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01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: realized that it's it was so prophetic in terms of

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Speaker 1: the instant messenger technology and all that stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's as a computer movie, it's actually kind

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Speaker 1: of cool. And I just really like, I feel like

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Speaker 1: Whoopy in this movie was like everything to me, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I just remember like really loving her character and

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Speaker 1: her style. Like listen, I'll post this on our Instagram maybe,

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01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: but like someone of my friends actually has a giant

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Speaker 1: toothbrush in their in their apartment, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: we got to do a side by side where I'm

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01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: holding the toothbrush just like Terry do Little in jumpin

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Speaker 1: Jack Flash as an homage to that movie. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's absolutely the pa The picture on my letterbox

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01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: if you go to my personal letterbox account, my picture

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01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: is the Jumpin' Jack Flash toothbrush. So there's that.

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Speaker 2: We have to find someone with the big crayon as well.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I just I don't know.

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01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: I just love this movie so much and I'm just

1184
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: glad I got to watch it again for this theme

1185
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: because you know I love it me too.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad we chose it. I'm so glad we

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Speaker 2: got to rewatch both of our films.

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Speaker 1: movies for the next episode.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Our movies for next week are The Joy Luck

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Speaker 2: Club from nineteen ninety three and Little Darlings from nineteen eighty.

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