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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Recapping last night Purdue over Texas at the buzzer, Iowa Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: What a strange finish that was, Illinois surprising Houston by ten,

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Speaker 2: and Arizona looking my Arizona Wildcats dominating Arkansas one oh

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Speaker 2: nine to eighty eight. So we have basketball coming up

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Speaker 2: tonight and I have some points spreads for entertainment purposes

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Speaker 2: only Duke minus six and a half against Saint John's,

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Speaker 2: Michigan minus eight and a half against Alabama, Iowa State

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Speaker 2: minus three and a half against Tennessee, and Yukon minus

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Speaker 2: one and a half against Michigan State. Now looking ahead

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Speaker 2: to the Elite eight odds, I was curious you got

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Speaker 2: Iowa and Illinois another Big Ten matchup. Big ten's having

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Speaker 2: a really nice tournament and really nice year when you

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Speaker 2: factor in Indiana football, and now you've got Purdue advancing.

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Speaker 2: Purdue is getting six and a half against Arizona, Iowa

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Speaker 2: getting six and a half against Illinois. Satan, what's the

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Speaker 2: first hour poll question today? I got one here from

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Speaker 2: Paul after last night's games, which is worse. Too many

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Speaker 2: players on the court, are not enough players.

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Speaker 3: On the court.

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Speaker 2: Uh wow, that's a tough one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paulie so Iowa, Nebraska. I was making the comeback.

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Speaker 4: I think there's like fifty eight seconds left. I was

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Speaker 4: get ready to inbounds and there's some shuffling of players

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Speaker 4: and then you see a baseball pass and then the

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Speaker 4: announcers say, what happened.

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Speaker 2: Here's Fred Hoiberg, the Nebraska head coach.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, I have the sound too of the play

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Speaker 5: by play, Katie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's let's do that. And then we'll have

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Speaker 2: the coach Marcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: You put all that. Look at this pass. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 6: Guess well now I'm going to say major defensive blown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they just don't guard Bull Garris and he's

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Speaker 3: waving for it.

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Speaker 2: How about the vision there? But you ked in jail

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Speaker 2: trying to get back in the play.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, I think Nebraska only had four defenders

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Speaker 4: on the floor.

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Speaker 2: Stan Van Gundy with the catch there. But here's Fred Hoiberg,

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Speaker 2: Nebraska head coach, on having only four players for rink.

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Speaker 7: About fifty eight seconds left, they had that deep ball

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Speaker 7: to Alvarro for the bucket.

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Speaker 8: I think there were four players on the court, like

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Speaker 8: you say, what happened the.

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Speaker 9: First that one myrone, you know, put that one on me.

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Speaker 9: It was a miscommunication, and you know I'm the head coach.

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Speaker 9: Put that one on me.

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Speaker 8: There's some confusion online about if that's the rules you're

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Speaker 8: supposed to have five guys on the court where deeper

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Speaker 8: the officials supposed to hold the ball before the ball

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Speaker 8: was pen A.

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Speaker 9: Good question, Robin. I've never been in a situation like that.

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Speaker 9: I know they always count to make sure there's not six.

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Speaker 9: I don't know the rule on that with with four,

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Speaker 9: but yeah, I mean again, it was a miscommunication and

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Speaker 9: you know, unfortunately it happened. But you know, as far

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Speaker 9: as the rule, I've never been a part of anything

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and you know, I give coach credit whether

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Speaker 3: You don't want to blame one of your kids.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it was a great year for Nebraska,

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Speaker 2: you know when you consider that that is a football

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Speaker 2: school and what they did with basketball, and they were

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Speaker 2: a good team from start to finish, and we thought

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Speaker 2: it was going to be a great game. It turned

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Speaker 2: out to be a great game going against Iowa and

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Speaker 2: It's just tough to end that way because if I

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Speaker 2: said to Nebraska fans at the beginning of the year, hey,

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Speaker 2: you're going to go to the Sweet sixteen, but you're

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Speaker 2: going to lose in dramatic fashion, and you're going to

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Speaker 2: lose to Iowa, you're still signing up for that. But

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Speaker 2: this is your hated rival. And give credit to Iowa.

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Speaker 2: They hung in there. They just lingered. They just lingered

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Speaker 2: long enough, and they end up picking up the win,

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Speaker 2: all right. Eight seven seven three DP show email address

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Speaker 2: DP Atdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle the DP show. Well,

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten is making a statement when you consider

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Speaker 2: football and basketball. You've got a couple of teams that

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Speaker 2: can advance. Couple more Big Ten teams that can advance

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Speaker 2: tonight Michigan State, Michigan. If I'm Greg Sanke in the

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Speaker 2: SEC and I'm watching this and I go, okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: you're kind of piling on here a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 2: we can take Michigan or Ohio State winning a national

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Speaker 2: title in football, now Indiana, and then we got basketball

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Speaker 2: basketball dominating, and a couple SEC teams bounced. Certainly with Arkansas,

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Speaker 2: it was a great run for John Kelli Perry. But

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Speaker 2: here's the hard part. You know, you're not going to

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Speaker 2: have Acuff back next year. He's going into the NBA.

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Speaker 2: That's the hard part. Because John has never had a

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Speaker 2: problem recruiting, and we've talked about this. I've talked about

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Speaker 2: this with him. Can you get players who are going

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Speaker 2: to stay for two years or three years? Because I

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Speaker 2: think the wave of the future is these kids are

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Speaker 2: going to make enough money to stay in college that

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Speaker 2: they're not going to leave early and maybe be a

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Speaker 2: second round pick or not get drafted. They might stay

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Speaker 2: if they can make five hundred thousand dollars or somebody

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Speaker 2: makes seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars and they'll stay

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Speaker 2: an extra year, or maybe they'll stay for two extra years.

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Speaker 2: Your mid majors are going to lose their players, you know,

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Speaker 2: their star player that might appear on the radar. Then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, these big schools will

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Speaker 2: swoop in and pick them up. You know, John still

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Speaker 2: needs to be able to get that core that can

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Speaker 2: be there the next year. You want to have a Cuff.

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Speaker 2: He's a tremendous player and he was wonderful throughout the tournament.

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Speaker 2: The last tournament run. I can remember for somebody like this,

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Speaker 2: Steph Curry at Davidson. I think Steph scored one hundred

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Speaker 2: points in the tournament. Acuff had around ninety. I think

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Speaker 2: he surpassed his eye on Williamson's debut with the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 2: But he's a great coach when you think about it,

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Speaker 2: and look what's happening so far with March Madness, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Tom Izzo one of the greatest coaches of all time. Patino,

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Speaker 2: you can make an argument there's no greater coach strategy

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Speaker 2: wise and x'es and o's than Rick Patino. And that's

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Speaker 2: incorporating NBA and college. His ability to do what he

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Speaker 2: does every place that he goes is really remarkable, unmatched.

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Speaker 2: But you have you know, Danny Hurley's got a couple

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Speaker 2: of titles there. There are a lot of high end

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Speaker 2: is North Carolina is sitting there open and you wonder

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Speaker 2: what coach in the NCAA Tournament might end up at

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Speaker 2: North Carolina because it feels like, and I was told

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Speaker 2: the Kansas situation because if Bill self steps down. Who

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Speaker 2: could then fill that void? And North Carolina knows you're

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Speaker 2: you get your guy. You want to get your guy

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Speaker 2: before that opening happens at Kansas. By the way, Bill

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Speaker 2: Murray's son, Luke Murray, he's the offensive coordinator basically for

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Speaker 2: Yukon basketball. He's going to take the BC job. Now

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Speaker 2: that's e me because yesterday I had Dan Hurley on

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Speaker 2: and I should have asked him, now, are you prepared

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Speaker 2: to lose Luke? And you know it was rumored there.

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Speaker 2: I got caught up and ran out of time and

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Speaker 2: when we got done, I made it. I should have

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Speaker 2: asked him about that, because you know, you have this

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Speaker 2: odd you know, this tournament run, and you're going to

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Speaker 2: lose a really, really, really valuable person on that coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: It's inevitable. But then you know, I got the heads

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Speaker 2: I didn't ask, So that that's on me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, had you asked him, probably would have started rubbing

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Speaker 6: to deal with what I could deal with.

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Speaker 3: I can only control so much.

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Speaker 2: You're right, Father wouldn't have allowed that. I know, but

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Speaker 2: I should have still asked the question, even though I

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Speaker 2: probably know what his answer would be. I still should.

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Speaker 2: But he's gonna stay on with Yukon. Ah, look at

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Speaker 2: Marvin all decked out in his husky gear.

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Speaker 5: Come on, you gotta stay ready to have to get ready.

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Speaker 2: Okay, come on, Oh you're ready, You're always ready, come

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Speaker 2: on always okay.

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Speaker 5: And I'm a die in this, okay, bury me writing this?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 7: Yes, okay, like that's a verbal commitment. I'm sign a

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Speaker 7: letter of intext.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so I'll bury you in that.

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Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, okay, all right, no questions? Is rip Hamilton?

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Speaker 7: Oh it's a rip Hamilton jersey. Come on now, okay,

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Speaker 7: come on, came out the wound ready for Yukon.

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Speaker 2: A nice pull up jumper fifteen footer by will to

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Speaker 2: him off the screen. Yes that's true. Set me a

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Speaker 2: pick hit the fifteen foot or yes, Paul would.

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Speaker 4: Be more cool to be Khalid el Amine a little

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Speaker 4: more niche.

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Speaker 7: Jersey at champ Sports in nineteen eighty eight, they weren't

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Speaker 7: selling Kalid element dress.

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Speaker 5: This is forty nine dollars. In nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 2: Khalid, Hell me, wasn't you a second round pick of

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Speaker 2: the Bulls? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: He played like six months for the bull so he did.

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Speaker 5: And he's built like Kirby Pucket.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, undersize and overweight.

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Speaker 5: But he got busy and.

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Speaker 2: He was a really good college player. He was a

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Speaker 2: fun college player, got busy off the court as well.

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Speaker 2: Did he get pulled over?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well it was a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: Back when you weren't allowed to get pulled over with.

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Speaker 2: I met a guy yesterday and he was showing off

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Speaker 2: this is really nice. He said, yeah, there's only one problem.

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Speaker 2: It smells like pot. I said, well, don't smoke in

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Speaker 2: the car. He goes, no, we rent this out and

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Speaker 2: somebody smoked potso it kind of absorbed in the leather.

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Speaker 2: They lease it out and I go, if you get

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Speaker 2: pulled over, you're in trouble, like get reeked. And the

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Speaker 2: been driving this car for three weeks now. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: does it get you know, the fine Corinthian leather gets

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Speaker 2: absorbed there in the carpet. I don't know how much.

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Speaker 2: They're smoking there, but somebody maybe got hot boxed in that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I got from A to kalid El.

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Speaker 2: I mean to this once again, this show non scripted. Yes, Paul,

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 4: Wondering one thing about college basketball. Do you think the

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Speaker 4: schools that take these one and dons would prefer not

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Speaker 4: to take the one and dons and have guys that stay?

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Speaker 4: Like you asked Danny Hurley yesterday, do you want these

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Speaker 4: big names or you want guys for years and years.

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Speaker 4: He's had years and years like Ioways got a bunch

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Purdue, same way. Yeah, you get that experience. And

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Speaker 2: I still believe in that it's nice to have that freshman.

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Speaker 2: And but we've seen you gotta have other players. You

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Speaker 2: juniors and seniors in there because of these moments right now,

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Speaker 2: March madness, because we've seen, you know, these freshmen and

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Speaker 7: You want a really good college player, but you don't

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Speaker 2: Then you're probably listening to all of this going, what

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Speaker 2: At what point do you realize Nebraska has four players

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Speaker 2: Does the official can he play a role in this

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Speaker 2: Illinois surprised me. I know they're a really good team.

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Speaker 3: Is he unguardable? Yeah, because he can get to his

435
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: pull up whenever he wants, you know, like he's just

436
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: for whether it's playing pick and roll, getting to the elbows.

437
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 3: She would just pull up. He's an incredible player. I

438
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: love watching Kevin Durant play. I'm such a fan. All right,

439
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 3: So what do you force him to do? Well? I

440
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 3: followed him on a three. That was a good start,

441
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 3: and then I actually got some stops. But Dan, I

442
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: promise you it was not because it was good decense.

443
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 3: He just missed a couple. But the NBA, like everybody

444
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 3: is so good, you know, Like, and I've played all

445
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 3: over the world. I played in Russia, I played in Italy,

446
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 3: I played in Spain. I played two years in the NBA.

447
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 3: But like, just the talent level in the NBA for

448
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 3: all four hundred and fifty guys is truly remarkable. When

449
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 3: you're there.

450
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: Well, you were first team All Big ten what three times?

451
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah. But I blow my knee out twice my

452
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 3: junior year and came back as a senior, and I

453
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 3: certainly was trying to kind of figure my way back physically.

454
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 3: And I played my rookie year in Spain and then

455
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 3: two years of Minnesota. I played for Georgia Moni's team

456
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 3: in Italy, so we had good uniforms, did a lot

457
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: of milel winning, and then I was I was cut

458
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 3: by the Nuggets. I was last cut and I went

459
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 3: to Moscow and played the year, which was an adventure

460
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 3: in itself.

461
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: What does adventure mean in Moscow?

462
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 3: Well, there's just corruption. There's just a rampant corruption throughout

463
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 3: the games. There's probably some of that, like the officiating.

464
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 3: I think teams are trying to avoid. Chesca was like

465
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 3: the best team, they have the biggest budget. You know,

466
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 3: everybody's trying to avoid Chesca. Really my best overseas European story.

467
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 3: Our team had signed Alexi sed who I the reason

468
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: I went I'm cut by the Nuggets. Alexi was my

469
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: teammate and I sat with him really on all the

470
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 3: planes in Minnesota. We'd sit together the flights and so

471
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: when I got cut, this team makes me an offer.

472
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: And Alexi had left and I think it was Philly.

473
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 3: He was out of the NBA. He goes back. He's

474
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 3: the highest paid player in Europe this year. So I

475
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: talked to him, how is it. He's like, yeah, it's great.

476
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: You know, he's living at home, he's the highest big

477
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 3: guy and you're up to he's shooting like, you know,

478
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: twenty times a game, and so for him it's great.

479
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 3: And they signed Jacob Polham who if you remember at

480
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: Kansas State, they got Marco Brown who was in the

481
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: NBA for the Nets and he was out, and then

482
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 3: they brought him in, a guy named EJ. Rowland who

483
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 3: played at Saint Mary's, and then Jeremy Evans from the NBA.

484
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 3: So they signed all these NBA guys because they're the

485
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 3: team had been relegated from euro League to euro Cup.

486
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 3: It's kind of like soccer where you're playing in the

487
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: Russian League, but you're also playing a second game during

488
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 3: the week and you're playing in a euro Cup or

489
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: Earleague game. So the way to get back to euro

490
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: League is that you have to either win euro Cup,

491
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: which we don't. We lose in the quarterfinals in Valencia,

492
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: or you make the finals. So some of the corruption

493
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: I'm talking about like teams. If you're the four of

494
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 3: the five and you've got CHESSCA in the Semis, there's

495
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: no way you're going to beat them because they've got

496
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 3: the biggest budget. They're kind of like the national team

497
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 3: of Russia. So we end up playing our first round

498
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 3: series inside Iberia. We're the two seat, we're in Siberia.

499
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 3: We've sweep them, and then we play in the semifinals,

500
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: the team from Saint Petersburg five game series. They've got

501
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 3: Trevor and Bachway who played at Minnesota, Aaron White who

502
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: played at Iowa, and some of these guys swear that

503
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 3: Game five was fixed. I need to go back and

504
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 3: watch and see. But we lose the first two, win

505
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 3: the next two. Decisive Game five in Saint Petersburg. Our

506
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: owner who's like an oligard, comes in the locker room

507
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: fifty minutes before the game, and at this point I'm like, dude,

508
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to retire if we lose. I don't care

509
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 3: because I want to leave so bad. I just I'm

510
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 3: over this. I hate being here. I'm ready to go home.

511
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: Owner comes in the locker room and goes, guys, this

512
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 3: is the biggest game in franchise history. You win tonight,

513
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: I'll pay each of you one hundred thousand US dollars

514
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: from my safe. And if you win the final two

515
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: fifty more so. I went from I hope we lose them.

516
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: We gotta win, like we have to win this game.

517
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 3: We end up winning. It's controversial finish. Some of our

518
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: Russian players who aren't being paid but all that much

519
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 3: or like hugging on the court. We won the semis

520
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: like hugging like we won the NBA Finals. The crazy

521
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: thing though about this story is that a couple of

522
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: days later, we have a lunch at the owners. He's

523
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 3: got like a twenty story office building in Moscow and

524
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 3: he's got a really nice restaurant in the first floor,

525
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: and the spreads incredible, you're Filet, Mignon, lost or whatever

526
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 3: you want, They've they've got it there. And the owner

527
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 3: literally says, like Joe, He's kind of like says it laughing,

528
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: but it's not a Joe. He goes, man. The funny

529
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: thing is I paid the rest to get a fair whistle.

530
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: So he admits to bribing the rest, which I'm sure

531
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: the other team was doing too, And then he points

532
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 3: to the corner of the room and he literally says,

533
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: all right, I got what you guys came from. Let's

534
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: win the final. We'll do this again. And he lined

535
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: us up like we were third graders and literally doled

536
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: out one hundred thousand cash in bags and just handed

537
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: them and doled them out fifteen times. And literally we

538
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: all had drivers. My driver was Roman, spoke no English.

539
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: We could only talk on Google translate. I get in

540
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: the car and he's like, what's in the back. I'm like,

541
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: we're gonna get car jacks, all of us. We're gonna

542
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: get carjacked there. And the craziest thing Dan is that

543
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 3: we had to go to practice. So there was one

544
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: point five million dollars in cash in the locker room. Well,

545
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 3: we practiced, and the next year some guy during a

546
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: game walked in that same locker room and stole everything, wallets, money, watches, everything.

547
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: So like, luckily he didn't take that day because he

548
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: would have he would have left with a good haul.

549
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, Russia's there's a lot going on there, a

550
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: lot going on there.

551
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Speaker 2: Talking to Robbie Hummel TNT, CBS basketball, Aly, Sorry, what

552
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: happens tonight?

553
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: Well, who's playing? Sa thing is when you do the tournament?

554
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: They douke in Saint John's. Who else do we got?

555
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: Michigan State Connecticut? Michigan State Connecticut.

556
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be interesting because Connecticut has certainly had moment,

557
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: but they've been so up and down, and you know,

558
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: for a lot of the other defense was really good,

559
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 3: but then they went through a loll and their offense

560
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 3: is better. That's about toughness. You know who can be

561
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: the tougher team when you play tom as those basketball teams,

562
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: whether it's when I was playing or when the team

563
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: Clays is playing, or in today's era. It's all about rebounding,

564
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 3: in fringes and defense. And the funny thing is I

565
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: can give you the scout and report in seven and

566
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: it would be relevant, you know, today in twenty twenty

567
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 3: six and for you. Kin tarras Reid is definitely the

568
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: X factor. For me, I just think he's one of

569
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: those guys when he's playing well, they're hard to handle

570
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: because their guard play is good. Caravans the ultimate winner.

571
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: So if Terras Reid can hang in there against those

572
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: Michigan State bigs and the wave of bigs they're going

573
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: to throw him, that would go a long way. Thanks

574
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: for sharing.

575
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: You're doing a great job and people are noticing how

576
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: good you've been as an analyst, certainly during March madness.

577
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: But thank you. We appreciate it, right, no problem, Yeah,

578
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: thanks for having me. Dan appreciate it. Robbie Homel.

579
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580
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581
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582
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583
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Speaker 2: Duke by six and a half over Saint John's, Michigan

584
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: by eight and a half over Alabama, Iowa State minus

585
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: three and a half over Tennessee, and Yukon minus one

586
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: and a half against Michigan State. Uh, let's see. Somebody

587
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: was asking me if Seattle's gonna get the franchise, expansion franchise.

588
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: They still own Sonics. It seems like they would want to,

589
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: you know, re embrace the Seattle super songs. But what

590
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: about Vegas because this is truly an expansion team. So

591
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: what is the name the nickname for Vegas going to be.

592
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's seen any names out there,

593
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I guess you're gonna play off gambling,

594
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna play off cards.

595
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, Pauling the Golden Knights the hockey team.

596
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 4: What's that based off of?

597
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: Because the owner, I think, went to West Point and

598
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: it's about the Golden Knights of West Point.

599
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: I could see the NBA, even in this gambling era,

600
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: trying to avoid anything racy for lack of a better word,

601
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: with the name of the team like, uh, the high rollers.

602
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: Well you have the aces of the w NBA. Okay,

603
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: but and that's a that's a good You don't want

604
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: to be the joke. Somebody suggested the jokers. I go, no, no,

605
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 2: you don't want your team calling being called jokers. But

606
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: then you have to trade for joker and get him

607
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: in there.

608
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: You don't want the Las Vegas Dealers.

609
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: That's a lot of You don't want the Vegas craps, right,

610
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: brought to you by Dude wipes.

611
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: Yourself the case in the Vegas Craps.

612
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, yeah, Todd, you got any names for the

613
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: Vegas spanshon franchise.

614
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 12: The Dice could do all kinds of things with two

615
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 12: dice and light it up and do all kinds of

616
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 12: I think, marketing things with a pair of.

617
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: Dice, right, the veggat Dice, Yes, Mart.

618
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: This may be frisk Fritzy esque. The show Boys.

619
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: The show Boys sounds weird. That sounds like some creepy

620
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: website you're on.

621
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 5: Stay out of my personal life.

622
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: But I was looking over your shoulder, Yes, Todd, the

623
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: Las Vegas.

624
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 8: Gentlemen's Club like they have the Washington Commander's Club.

625
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: We were talking about real names, Todd, I.

626
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 12: Think there could be fun, but Adam sil already gonna

627
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 12: next one of those things recently.

628
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 8: Can't do the.

629
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 12: Magic City things, so we definitely can't call it the

630
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 12: Las Vegas Gentleman's.

631
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: No, no, I can't do Olympic Garden or anything like that.

632
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 8: Good Times, the Spearmint Rhino.

633
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rhinos, yes, Mark.

634
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 7: Maybe something like from one of their old XFL the

635
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 7: Outlaws or something like that.

636
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 5: I don't know.

637
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: Any names.

638
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 4: And yes, Pauline, I've got kind of a rando betting site.

639
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 4: They have the Mirage, the Jokers, the Outlaws, the Scorpions,

640
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: the Venom, the Diamonds, the diamonds.

641
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that, yeah, I should have been for the

642
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: Las Vegas A's right, the diamonds, Las Vegas Diamonds, right,

643
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: the ex calibers, thanks so.

644
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin for me and Paulie. More important than anything,

645
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 7: team colors, like, hmm, what do you do.

646
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: Because you can't look like the Brooklyn nets with black

647
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 4: and white? Though no one will confuse you because nobody

648
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 4: watches the nets.

649
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: But then are the Oakland A's the Vegas A's are

650
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: they going to continue their green and gold colors? I'm

651
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: guessing the Raiders kept their colors.

652
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, PAULI based off I got an article from Sports

653
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 4: Business Journal. It's just a speculative article that says they

654
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if they when a total different direction

655
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 4: with their uniforms, which allows them to do as throwback

656
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: weeks and nights.

657
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: Like most teams would do. Yeah.

658
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 6: Part of the thing that's tricky for Las Vegas is

659
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 6: a lot of names that would be perfect for them

660
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 6: are already taken. So like, you have the Magic that

661
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 6: would be great for Las Vegas already taking the Heat

662
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 6: and then the Desert. Oh, that's already taken. The Aces, Well,

663
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 6: you already got an ass. The good names are already taken.

664
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 6: You could be like the Neons or something.

665
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 12: Yes, can they go into business with the Sphere and

666
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 12: be the Spheares and do something?

667
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 8: Maybe there's something marketing wise and you can.

668
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: I ain't catching there. Kind of a tough nickname. Let's

669
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: go watch the Spears Outlaws.

670
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, the Golden Nuggets, you got the Denver Nuggets.

671
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 5: You've got the Golden Knights, the Golden Nuggets.

672
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 8: All right?

673
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: Do that? I like that? All right? Okay, you're rallying.

674
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 12: You probably wouldn't have golden nugget if you have the

675
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 12: Denver nuggets, though, that'd probably be a problem.

676
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: Good call, ton, It.

677
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 8: Seems like you're excited different something that should.

678
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: Like did, but you know it was better than the

679
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: other suggestions you had.

680
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 8: So now that think about, you can't have two nuggets.

681
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: No you can't.

682
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 8: I don't even if the golden nugget even exists.

683
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: All right, Uh Cuba in Arizona, Hi, Cuba, what's on

684
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: your mind today?

685
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: So DP Hey Cuba, Hey man, just call and give

686
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: you some Corduroy love.

687
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 9: His haters on you, but uh, you even got a

688
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 9: couple of corduroy hats man.

689
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm getting I'm getting criticized for my corduroy.

690
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: Now I'm giving you love. Oh okay, Oh well that's

691
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: what I was worried about. Am I getting uh like

692
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 2: social media hate for my corduroy. M Baker and Bozeman,

693
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: Hi Baker.

694
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 13: Hey, happy already speaking of your cordroy love, listen, I'll

695
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 13: love fuel that Corroy love with a gorgeous chocolate brown

696
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 13: corduroy Levi's jacket. I just emailed the photo of it's

697
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 13: to Kyler, the moderator if you want to see I'd

698
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 13: like to offer that jacket up in exchange for a

699
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 13: game used ESPN tie. You said you've got seventy five

700
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 13: of them laying around doing nothing. How about a swap?

701
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: All right, we'll do that, Baker.

702
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: Thank you, uh Zach and Knoxville. Hi Zach, thanks for

703
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: holding what's on your mind today?

704
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 3: Thanks for taking my call. DP.

705
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 11: I always pictured Marvin, you know, with the Jake Moskel

706
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 11: Jersey on when he's up there at the early gates.

707
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 11: But I just wanted to ask you about that NBA expansion.

708
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 11: We already have quite a few teams that go into

709
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 11: the season and remain irrelevant. Do you think that it's

710
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 11: a good move to move into expansion right now?

711
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: Well, we've talked about that and we had Tracy McGrady on.

712
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: He goes, I don't know if we have enough players

713
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: to expand, and he does make a really good case there.

714
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at some of these rosters,

715
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: then I could give you names and you'd go, what sport?

716
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 2: You know, they just wouldn't ring, if they'd ring hollow,

717
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 2: and you'd be like, I have no idea who that is?

718
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: I follow it? And there are times when I go.

719
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: I have no idea who that guy is or who

720
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 2: he plays for. I do not, But man, you look

721
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: at the money. It's between seven and ten billion dollars.

722
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: This is the entrance fee, and that money will then

723
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: go to the other owners. The other owners are going

724
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: to make probably somewhere around I don't know, four hundred

725
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: five hundred million dollars for not doing anything. You imagine

726
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: you show up one day and you look in your

727
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: bank account and it's got four hundred and fifty million

728
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: dollars and you didn't do anything. Man, great to be

729
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: an owner. Chris and Syracuse. Hi Chris, what's on your mind?

730
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: Hey?

731
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 14: Thanks for getting me in.

732
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 7: Dan.

733
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 14: Hey, I got a few things to throw at you,

734
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 14: and also a possible mock headline to be written on

735
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 14: your casket. Yeah, I guess Vegas can't go with because

736
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 14: of the Chicago Bulls. They can't go with the pit

737
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 14: Bulls either. You were talking about the Pirates center fielders.

738
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 14: Non error Now MLB says it has to be a

739
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 14: physical error, not a judgment error. When your judgment tells

740
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 14: you to put your glove in a certain spot and

741
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 14: the ball bounces off the heel of your glove, that's

742
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 14: an error, just like when your judgment tells you to

743
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 14: run forward after a ball instead of backwards. Running is

744
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 14: a physical activity, it's an error. And I have to

745
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 14: disagree with Robbi Hummel saying he's never seen a coach

746
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 14: only having four players on the floor. Let's not forget

747
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 14: about that other Husker coach, the legendary Normandale and Dan.

748
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 14: You guys were talking about having your funeral in the

749
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 14: man cave on your beloved basketball court. The casket may

750
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 14: read former Western Kentucky Hilltopper finally.

751
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: Passes nice.

752
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: It's Eastern Kentucky. We weren't even Western Kentucky. They were good.

753
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: They were Eastern Kentucky. It's very good, Thank.

754
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: You, Chris.

755
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams has submitted four trademark applications related to the

756
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: name Iceman, a logo name, and silhouettes that mimic Caleb

757
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 2: Williams poses he rolls left, jumps and completes a pass,

758
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: so George Gervin the Iceman. He has a problem with

759
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: this because he has filed for a trademark. He had

760
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: Iceman and Iceman forty four. That was his jersey number.

761
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: So four days after William's application was filed George Gervin.

762
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: His trademark application was also I guess submitted. But he's

763
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: been called the Iceman and that was first used in

764
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: uh nineteen seventy nine. I actually have the Iceman poster

765
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: and ice is he's sitting on a block of ice

766
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: and he's these basketballs you know, look like their ice

767
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: as well. It's great, great poster. But I sent me

768
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: that autographed it a couple of years ago. But I

769
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: guess there is a soccer player in Chelsea Raad Satan, Yeah,

770
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 2: Col Palmer, and he's called Iceman. H well, no, they'll

771
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: call him Cold Palmer.

772
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 3: Oh.

773
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 6: But his celebration was that sort of like I'm freezing

774
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 6: kind of thing because like every time he scores a goal,

775
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 6: he's like that was too cold.

776
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So Caleb is imitating this soccer player called Palmer.

777
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: Yeah okay.

778
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 6: So when Palmer scores, he gives you the old shivers,

779
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 6: like who and so they call him Cold Palmer.

780
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: Okay.

781
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: I think Chuck Ledell, former MMA fighter, wasn't he known

782
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: as Iceman.

783
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys who were laying claim this

784
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 3: little naval pilot, Val Kilmer.

785
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: Val Kilmer, the original Iceman. Oh, j Yeah, I believe

786
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: what else, Paul, Actually.

787
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 4: The timeline would be George Gervin. First, the George Gervin's company,

788
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 4: Gervin Global Management, thought they had the nickname trademarked already.

789
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 4: They found out they never did. The confusion was a

790
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 4: death of a business associate who was tasked to do

791
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 4: this years ago and he didn't get it done. So

792
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: when Caleb Williams went in to do this, he had

793
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 4: the green light to do it, it was not already trademarked.

794
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 4: And when they realized that, they scrambled the Gervin people

795
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 4: to get Iceman and Ice forty four trademark. The nickname

796
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 4: was not self given by Caleb. Kind of the press

797
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: did it after he did the Cole Palmer thing. Yeah,

798
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 4: but he already took the logo and it's kind of

799
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 4: making maybe a clothing line out of this or other things.

800
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're talking about jerseys and hats and sports equipment.

801
00:40:53,320 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: I wear posters, trading cards, sweatshirts. M. George Gervin is Iceman.

802
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

803
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 6: See, I'm looking a little deeper into the George Gervin situation.

804
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 6: You know, who had the rights to it that was

805
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 6: supposed to do it on his beat and didn't.

806
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: Alec Baum's parents.

807
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 5: Damn it.

808
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: No, that's.

809
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 6: I'm confusing my stories. Wow wow, yes, yes, okay, this is.

810
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 5: The question from the room.

811
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 4: If you were the judge in this case and had

812
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 4: to decide, how would you make your decision?

813
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: I would say, Iceman, You're the original Iceman. You get it.

814
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: Uh.

815
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: Cord jerned, But he did make he thought he had

816
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: trademarked it. It's not like he all of a sudden

817
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: go oh my gosh, I got a trademark that he

818
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: did think that he was filing the trademark papers. There

819
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: was a death and they weren't able to He did

820
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: not realize that. I would I would give it to Iceman. Yes, Pauline.

821
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: Some people use nicknames of people from the past. But

822
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: if I refer to you by your nickname and it's

823
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: more well known than your actual name, I think it's yours.

824
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 4: Tiger Woods. No one calls him Eldrick. No one says, hey,

825
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 4: George Gervin was on TV today. You say, I saw

826
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 4: Ice Gervin on the TV show. Yeah, I think that

827
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 4: would be the default judgment. No one goes Iceman. Williams

828
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: of the Bears. Yeah, no one says that yet.

829
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Gervin has you know, he's got some kind

830
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: of documentation. He's got a poster that says Iceman on it.

831
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: I would just bring the poster to court.

832
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 3: Find him. I'm saying here it is that there's me. Yes,

833
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: I do.

834
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 6: I think there's something too. If you bring all of

835
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 6: them into court and line them up and ask the

836
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 6: jury which one of them is Iceman and they point

837
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 6: to George Gervin, They're like, okay, that's clearly you win.

838
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: You get the patent. You do a focus group, and

839
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 2: you bring the focus group in and say, all right, uh,

840
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: you line up Chuck Liddel, you line up Ice Gervan,

841
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 2: You line up Caleb Williams. You go, okay, who is Iceman?

842
00:42:59,239 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 3: And you point.

843
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: Now, if I'm Gervin, I'm wearing my uniform. I'd be

844
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: wearing my San Antonio Spurs jersey. Yes, Marvin, that said

845
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: Ice on the back.

846
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 7: Yes, Yes, it doesn't say Ice on the Chicago Bears uniform.

847
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: Now it doesn't.

848
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 5: One is Iceman. The other one is the guy that

849
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 5: pretends to be cold.

850
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 2: I would I would come in and do a finger

851
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: roll like I would do the little GERVI and finger

852
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: roll there. Maybe grows hair back, get a fro back, Yes, Pauli.

853
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 4: It's like if I said, oh, I saw I was

854
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: watching NFL Network and LT was being interviewed. I'm referring

855
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 4: to who.

856
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: Well, that's different because that could be Lawrence Taylor led

857
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: Danian Tomlinson, right, But those are just initials.

858
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: I wonder if either trademarked that for clothes or merchandise.

859
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, but Abdul Carter also wanted to be

860
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: called LT as well. It's weird. He wanted his number

861
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: and he'd liked to be called LT as well. I

862
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: think he's changing his number again. Is Abdual Carter changing

863
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: his number? Or did I make that up.

864
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: To?

865
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, he can't do fifty six.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: For some reason, I thought maybe he was changing he

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Speaker 2: was changing something. All right, let me take a break.

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Speaker 2: It's time for sausage and peppers. We also have our

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Speaker 2: little batting helmets with ice cream in it, the nacho

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Speaker 2: cheese dip. We have crab dogs. Is that what it is?

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Speaker 3: Oh boy?

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Speaker 2: You guys don't come in sick on Monday or with

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Speaker 2: a stomach ache.

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Speaker 8: All right, Todd, we'll try to avoid that.

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Speaker 2: All right, everything in moderation. That's the problem.

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Speaker 8: It's very easy to say those words.