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Speaker 2: It is so great to be with all of you,

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Speaker 2: and it's so great to be with all of you

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Speaker 2: here on a Saturday night in May. You know one

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Speaker 2: thing Jmartin I talk about all the time. We are

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Speaker 2: so blessed to be in this timeslot because you know,

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Speaker 2: being a host on Fox Sports Radio is a privilege

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Speaker 2: in and of itself. But at the same time, being

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Speaker 2: in this timeslot, we are always coming on after big games,

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Speaker 2: NFL playoff games, Saturday games, big college football games, and

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Speaker 2: tonight was no exception. By now you know the story

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Speaker 2: to Seger just told you, Martin and VJ just told you.

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Speaker 2: But there was a game six in Dallas, Dallas up

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Speaker 2: three to two on the Oklahoma City Thunder. The winners

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Speaker 2: would advance to the Western Conference Finals. Of course, if

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Speaker 2: it was Dallas. If Oklahoma City wins, there is a

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Speaker 2: game seven. Bring it up, because it came down to

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Speaker 2: the wire, and it came down frankly to a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a controversial finish. Producer Ian, really quick, do

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Speaker 2: we have the sound yet of the final play? Let

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Speaker 2: me set it up for you. Mary Mack will pull

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Speaker 2: it up here in half a second. But the Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: City Thunder are up by one, one sixteen, one point fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Dallas drives the length of the court a corner pass

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Speaker 2: to PJ. Washington. He kind of double pumps as the

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Speaker 2: shot clock is set to expire and uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: and it looks like he gets followed. A file is

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Speaker 2: called on the floor. Uh, and he does go to

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Speaker 2: the foul line and makes two of three, makes the

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Speaker 2: first two to give the Dallas Mavericks a one point lead.

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Speaker 2: He misses the third one on purpose. What was interesting

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Speaker 2: about that is that in the process of the challenge

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Speaker 2: by Dallas. Uh, in the process of the challenge by Dallas,

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Speaker 2: they used their last time out so they could not

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Speaker 2: advance the ball. Here is how it sounded on the

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Speaker 2: floor in real time. Mary mac go ahead and hit it.

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Speaker 3: Shaye drives right, Alli Imster's tap for the right hand

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Speaker 3: ug went up high, threw down heart thunder one sixteen.

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Speaker 2: The mass won fifteen to twenty seconds left. That was

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Speaker 2: not the sound that we were looking for. That was

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Speaker 2: the thunder taking the lead there. Momentarily disagreed, do you

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Speaker 2: have the sound? Go ahead, we're efforting the sound. Give

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Speaker 2: us one half second here again. Dallas, by the way,

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Speaker 2: wins one seventeen to one to sixteen. Controversial call. We're

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Speaker 2: trying to get the sound here, ready to go, was

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Speaker 2: told that we have the sound. If we don't, it's okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. We'll just get into the conversation

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Speaker 2: because the bottom line is the Dallas Mavericks win. We'll

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Speaker 2: get back to the sound here momentarily. But Dallas advances.

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Speaker 2: They will obviously go to the NBA Finals where there

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Speaker 2: are the Western Conference Finals where they will face either

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Speaker 2: Denver or Minnesota. They play their game seven tomorrow. But

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Speaker 2: to me, listen, the story is it was a controversial call.

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Speaker 2: I'll be blunt. The broadcast. The broadcast. The broadcast made

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Speaker 2: it sound like it was a controversial play. First of all,

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I don't really even understand fully at

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Speaker 2: this point how how a foul which is in essence

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Speaker 2: a judgment call every single time, is really reviewable. But

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Speaker 2: Steve Javi on the call does make it sound a

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Speaker 2: little bit controversial that that maybe it isn't a foul call. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: Bring it up, because the follow is called credit PJ. Washington.

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Speaker 2: He makes both those free throws, and the Dallas Mavericks

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Speaker 2: will now advance to the West Conference Finals. Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: is joining me from Nashville. Jmart what did you make

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Speaker 2: of that final play? As the Dallas Mavericks PJ. Washington

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Speaker 2: is fouled, they do review it. It is called a

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Speaker 2: Dallas a one point lead, which ultimately seals the victory.

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, I mean, I'll admit, first off, I'm

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Speaker 3: a thunderfan, and so obviously this one hurt. But I

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Speaker 3: guess I'm just kind of a little bit confused just

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Speaker 3: because I and kind of just what I heard you saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure what the challenge was, what the

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Speaker 3: basis was. The way it was explained after the fact

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Speaker 3: he gets three free throws. Anyway, Like, the whole thing

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Speaker 3: just kind of seemed like a mess. Ultimately, if you

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Speaker 3: the way that it was observed, then it was a foul.

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Speaker 3: And it's unfortunate because you just kind of would rather

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Speaker 3: it not end like that. But sometimes you don't get

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Speaker 3: to script the ending the way that you wanted to,

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Speaker 3: and so that's just kind of where you find yourself.

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Speaker 3: But I'm like now scrambling around trying to find the

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Speaker 3: first articles to get put out that are really going

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Speaker 3: to explain this better, because I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: blame the television broadcast or not, but they didn't do

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Speaker 3: a particularly good job of making me feel like I

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Speaker 3: truly understood that call and could say, Okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is what it was like. It seemed very kind

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Speaker 3: of wishy washy, and it left a bad taste in

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny about that? Jamart and I'm not

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Speaker 2: here to criticize this, and everybody on the call is

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Speaker 2: doing the best that they can, and I think Dave

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Speaker 2: Pash is really good. I do too, But like Richard

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Speaker 2: Jefferson is what three years removed from the league, and

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Speaker 2: you know, we have Doris Burke and JJ Reddick on

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Speaker 2: the main It's like, I do feel like there's kind

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Speaker 2: of a dearth of like real good NBA analyst right

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Speaker 2: now because, like you said, it wasn't sold to me

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Speaker 2: in real time as if it made sense. I'll be honest,

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Speaker 2: Like you know, I think the argument could certainly have

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Speaker 2: been made that the that that Shay Gildess Alexander who

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Speaker 2: did commit the fall on PJ. Washington again for people

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Speaker 2: just joining us. Dallas beats the Oklahoma City Thunder one

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Speaker 2: seventeen one sixteen.

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Speaker 3: PJ.

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Speaker 2: Washington of the Dallas Mavericks followed with two and a

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Speaker 2: the victory. Only bring it up because Yeah, it didn't

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Speaker 2: seem like that controversial of a call to me, I

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Speaker 2: certainly think it would have been. It's tough because you know, listen,

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Speaker 2: we we know how this goes is that you're not

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Speaker 2: supposed to let the moment in the game dictate, dictate

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City has a one point If you don't make

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Speaker 2: we're going to a game seven and Dallas is mad.

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Speaker 2: I think it was the right call. Let me ask

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Speaker 2: you this, Jason, and I know where I reacted to

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Speaker 2: this in real time, and I don't know that this

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Speaker 2: is the biggest storyline. I think the biggest storyline to

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Speaker 2: me is bluntly, you know, twenty nine, ten and ten

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Speaker 2: for Luca Kyrie Irving made a bunch of big plays

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Speaker 3: PJ.

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Speaker 2: Washington made a bunch of big plays down the stretch,

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Speaker 2: both offensively and defensively. Seric Gliveley, who, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Dave Pash did mention on the broadcast his mom just

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Speaker 2: passed away from cancer about like two two and a

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Speaker 2: he's playing. I don't think that the last play is

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Speaker 2: why Dallas won the game. Well, I mean by technically

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Speaker 2: it is, but like they were the better team down

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Speaker 2: the stretch. I want to ask you really quick though,

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Speaker 2: do you think it was a mistake by Mark Daganolt,

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Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City thunder head coach, because it was the

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Speaker 2: last time out, they could not advance the ball, and

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Speaker 2: so then PJ. Washington all they had to do was

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Speaker 2: make two out of three, you win the game. Even

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Speaker 2: if you make one out of three, you're going overtime.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the conversation that that may get lost

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Speaker 2: in this because there is a conversation about was it

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Speaker 2: the right call? Was it not all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: you can't advance the ball. That's obviously something in the

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Speaker 2: I know, it's in real time, and I know when

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Speaker 2: stuff like this happens, we obviously always overreact to it.

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Speaker 2: But we are in real time here. I think that

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Speaker 2: was maybe more egregious than anything is. Is you save

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Speaker 2: the challenge, you get the time out, you move the

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Speaker 2: either tie or in this case, they would have obviously

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Speaker 2: to me was the bigger issue I think with with

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think that you. I mean, certainly

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Speaker 3: you can look at it now and say that was

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Speaker 3: a mistake because it didn't go their way. I would

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Speaker 3: say that. You know, he challenged earlier in the game

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Speaker 3: the fifth foul on Dort and they reversed the call

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Speaker 3: and they took that back to four, and that was

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Speaker 3: a crucial moment in the third quarter, and maybe he

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Speaker 3: did feel like he had a case there. The real

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Speaker 3: am I just gonna let this go and let him

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Speaker 3: go take these free throws? Or am I gonna challenge this?

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Speaker 3: And of course he's got his team looking at him

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Speaker 3: trying to tell him to challenge, just like Dallas was

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Speaker 3: trying to get Jason Kidd to challenge the out of

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of factors and it's moving awfully

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Speaker 3: quickly in that moment. It's very easy now to say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that puts your team in a spot where PJ was

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Speaker 3: ultimately gonna miss that free throw and you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: a horrible look. That was gonna be your season. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna have no opportunity to set up anything. Even though

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Speaker 3: Passion made the point that you know, because of the situation,

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Speaker 3: he had already made the call of what play was

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Speaker 3: be any time to set it up. So I just

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Speaker 3: think it was imperfect all around. I don't know exactly

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Speaker 3: what he should have done, but I can't really blame

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Speaker 3: him for this because he had been successful with this

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Speaker 3: same group of referees earlier in the game on a challenge,

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Speaker 3: and this was a game defining moment. If that challenge

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Speaker 3: goes through and works, you know you're you're looking at

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Speaker 3: a completely different situation.

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Speaker 2: Do you also agree though, that probably you know the

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Speaker 2: right team the wrong team whatever. It was weird because

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Speaker 2: Jason and maybe I had just a different perspective than you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you follow a casey close than I do

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Speaker 2: on a day to day basis. But you know, one

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Speaker 2: we could do the cliche, oh, they're ahead of schedule,

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Speaker 2: young team. Most of these guys it's their first playoff appearance.

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Speaker 2: But it was weird because I don't know. I just

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Speaker 2: never felt like Oklahoma City was gonna win that game.

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Speaker 2: And I know they literally had the lead with two

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Speaker 2: and a half seconds to go, So it sounds dumb

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Speaker 2: to say it, but it just felt like down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: Here comes Luca.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, goding.

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Speaker 8: On the low of the foul occurred on the three

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio Eric Tors Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: heard the crucial call. The Dallas Mavericks beat the Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: The controversial call, if you want to call it that.

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Speaker 2: We did just get sound from Shake Guildes. Alexander, who

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Speaker 9: I shouldn't have fouled him.

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Speaker 9: We talk about it all your other little things that

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Speaker 3: Have you seen the replay?

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is what you want. You almost had

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Speaker 3: Is he going to show up and show out and

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Speaker 3: make a bunch of shots in this game? And are

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Speaker 3: some of the other guys going to make some crucial

436
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Speaker 3: threes as well? Like I think that I really don't

437
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Speaker 3: have a great feel for it because I think either

438
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Speaker 3: team absolutely could win it. Now, I picked the Nuggets,

439
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Speaker 3: but that was prior to the series, and as you

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Speaker 3: watch it and you see I do feel like the

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Speaker 3: t Wolves match up in a way that if they

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Speaker 3: get hot and and pretty much take that Nuggets crowd

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Speaker 3: out of it, they could run away with it the

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Speaker 3: way that they did in the first game of the series.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of wild. Game one, seventeen point Minnesota win.

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Speaker 2: Game two, twenty six point Minnesota win, Game three, twenty

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Speaker 2: seven point Denver win. Game four was the only close

448
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Speaker 2: when it was an eight point win for Denver. Game

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Speaker 2: Game five, it was a fifteen point win for Denver,

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Speaker 2: and then of course a four five point victory four

451
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Speaker 2: Minnesota last night. Tell you what, Jason, we'll come back.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit more about that game. And

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Speaker 2: also you mentioned it right there. Another game seven tomorrow

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Speaker 2: as well in New York. We'll discuss that next for

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Speaker 2: do the first time this evening, I guess it's technically

456
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Speaker 2: the second time I've thrown to the news desk. But

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Speaker 2: my bad. Earlier we were scrambling for that sound. I apologize,

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Speaker 2: but to Sega, what is going on?

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Speaker 10: At least we got it in there in this segment

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Speaker 10: and it was thrilling at the end, and Dallas advances.

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Speaker 10: The Fox Sports NFL feed, by the way, on Twitter

462
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Speaker 10: did just tweet out that it's a good time to

463
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Speaker 10: be a sports fan. And the Dallas Fort Worth area

464
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Speaker 10: say for one thing, because their graphic is how many

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Speaker 10: days since your last Conference Finals appearance for a Dallas

466
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Speaker 10: area team? Well, Dallas Maverick's been no days. They just

467
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Speaker 10: qualified Dallas Stars late last night. No days, they just qualified.

468
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Speaker 10: Texas Rangers are coming off a World Series title. Dallas

469
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Speaker 10: Cowboys it's been over ten thousand days since they were

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Speaker 10: Just for the record.

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Speaker 2: Think about that TCU has played for a championship in

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Speaker 2: college football more recently than the Cowboys.

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Speaker 10: That's one big ouch. Who in the history of the

474
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Speaker 10: Dallas Cowboys would have guessed that TCU football would have that.

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Speaker 10: That's what I'm saying, Boys football. The Dallas Mavericks are

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Speaker 10: five seeds in the West Playoffs this year, and they've

477
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Speaker 10: eliminated the one seed Oklahoma City one seventeen, one sixteen

478
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Speaker 10: on two free throws with two seconds left. Remember when

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Speaker 10: Dirk Novitsky and company won an NBA championship for Dallas

480
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Speaker 10: in twenty eleven. After that, they went ten straight years

481
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Speaker 10: without winning a single playoff series. Now with LUCA, a

482
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Speaker 10: couple of years ago, they made the conference finals, lost

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Speaker 10: to Golden State. Now with LUCA this year, they've made

484
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Speaker 10: the conference finals. Luka Donsich with a triple double in

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Speaker 10: this game, and they were trailing at home halftime. It

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Speaker 10: was okay, see sixty four to forty eight. And at

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Speaker 10: that time I saw the stat from the AP about

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Speaker 10: the number of blowouts in this postseason for the NBA

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Speaker 10: that you reference in the first two rounds of the

490
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Speaker 10: NBA Playoff at that point tonight, the average margin of

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Speaker 10: victory was over fourteen points per game, largest since nineteen

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Speaker 10: fifty eight for the first couple rounds. And yet we

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Speaker 10: had a comeback victory for the home team, Dallas wins

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Speaker 10: by one on the late free throws. Luka Doncich finished

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Speaker 10: not only with a triple double, it was specifically twenty

496
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Speaker 10: nine points, ten rebounds, tennisis and seven turnovers stat saying

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Speaker 10: saying Doncich is the first player in the history of

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Speaker 10: the NBA to have three straight triple doubles to close

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Speaker 10: out a series.

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Speaker 2: By the way, three straight triple doubles without getting a

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Speaker 2: single call. According to Luka Doncich, sorry, I was watching.

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Speaker 2: I love Luca. He's so gifted. Can we get one

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Speaker 2: play where you just don't wind to the refs police?

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Speaker 2: Can we get just one?

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Speaker 11: So you're saying superstars beg for calls?

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Speaker 3: Is that what I mean?

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Speaker 2: It feels like he's like the Michael Jordan of begging

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Speaker 2: for calls.

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Speaker 11: Like it's tell you're his say Tim Duncan, honestly.

510
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Speaker 2: Did, Tim Duncan.

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Speaker 11: He kind of rolled his eyes a lot for many years.

512
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Duncan was the king of it. In my opinion,

513
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Speaker 3: that's the torch.

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Speaker 10: Luka Donsichs talent though, was evident on that last offensive

515
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Speaker 10: play because I thought, Okay, he's backed him in, he's

516
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Speaker 10: got him in the lane, he's gonna get a good shot.

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Speaker 10: And he lost the ball and was still able to

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Speaker 10: tap it to his teammate at the corner, and PJ.

519
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Speaker 10: Washington was fouled with the two seconds left, And you're

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Speaker 10: right to bring up the fact that, oh, should the

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Speaker 10: coach have challenged that. That's the coach of the year

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Speaker 10: in the NBA we're talking about for OKC. I get

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Speaker 10: what he's thinking, because if you challenge and win, they're

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Speaker 10: not taking any free throws, right, and you can win

525
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Speaker 10: and you can have a Game seven at home on

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Speaker 10: Monday night perhaps, And even if you challenge and lose,

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Speaker 10: as was the case, PJ. Washington's not a good free

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Speaker 10: throw shooter, especially this year. If he doesn't make those

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Speaker 10: first two, he's gonna have to make the third, and

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Speaker 10: then I know you don't get to advance to big court,

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Speaker 10: but at least you get a better pass and maybe

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Speaker 10: a better shot.

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Speaker 2: In the last two seconds, you guys were both right

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Speaker 2: on that one. I said it in real time and

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Speaker 2: after j Martin made the point, after you did disagre.

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Speaker 2: It was the right decision. It was just unfortunate how

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Speaker 2: it worked out.

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Speaker 11: He lost twice. Basically in the moment.

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Speaker 2: It was the right call.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just listening to him. I was trying

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Speaker 3: to scout him out, like to see what he said

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Speaker 3: afterwards about it. About making the decision. He said, point blank,

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Speaker 3: he goes, I knew he got ball, and I also

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Speaker 3: knew he got arm, but I thought maybe he got

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Speaker 3: ball first, and I felt like it was worth the risk,

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Speaker 3: And I think, is that right, Steve. It just came

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Speaker 3: down to the fact that because PJ. Washington hadn't started

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Speaker 3: the shot, it didn't matter if you touch the ball,

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Speaker 3: because then you touched the arm before, and that's a foul. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: if he had been in the actual act and the

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Speaker 3: ball had been released, then if he had gotten ball first,

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't have been a foul.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, because what you played there at the end. It

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Speaker 10: was such a matter of fact statement by the referee

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Speaker 10: at the microphone, like it wasn't even a concern of

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Speaker 10: whether it was a two or a three.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, we're going.

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Speaker 8: To lower the foul occurred on the three point shot.

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Speaker 4: The challenge is unsuccessful.

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Speaker 11: Dallas three three throws and that was that.

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Speaker 10: Two free throws made. Dallas does win and advance. By

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Speaker 10: the way, the Western Conference Finals will start on Wednesday,

563
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Speaker 10: the series winner with the Indiana at New York Game

564
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Speaker 10: seven tomorrow. That series winner goes to Boston to start

565
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Speaker 10: the Eastern Conference Finals on Tuesday. In the NHL Playoffs,

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Speaker 10: Edmonton is still alive after ripping Vancouver five to one,

567
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Speaker 10: forcing a game seven Monday at Vancouver. Xander Schoffley and

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Speaker 10: Colin Morikawa are tied for the lead at the PGA Championship,

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Speaker 10: up by one stroke. Shane Lowry is two shots back

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Speaker 10: after a third round sixty two sees. The Gray won

571
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Speaker 10: the Preakness, leading Wire to Wire boxing's undisfuted heavyweight champ

572
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Speaker 10: as a broken jaw, but he was the winner. Alexander

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Speaker 10: Usik a split decision over Tyson Fury in Saudi Arabia. Today,

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Speaker 10: our time baseball Yankees won their sixth in a row.

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Speaker 10: Philadelphia won again a ten inning win against Washington on

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Speaker 10: the Fox TV game tonight. Well, they were due to

577
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Speaker 10: have two games depending on your region. But San Diego

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Speaker 10: in Atlanta was rained out doubleheader on Monday, so the

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Speaker 10: country saw the Texas home game, which was the longest

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Speaker 10: game in the Majors this year, thirteen innings. Rangers beat

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Speaker 10: the Angels three to two on a basis loaded hit

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Speaker 10: batter the Angels offense with runners in scoring position, oh

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Speaker 10: for eighteen, tying a franchise record.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve di Sega,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Eric Towards Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tireq dot Com studios as the

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Speaker 2: Saga just told you. Dallas beats OKC one seventeen one

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Speaker 2: sixteen in Game six of the Western Conference Semifinals. They

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Speaker 2: will advance to the Western Conference Finals, where they will

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Speaker 2: play the winner of Sunday Nights Denver versus Minnesota Game seven.

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Speaker 2: But of course before that, we got ourselves a Game

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Speaker 2: seven in Madison Square Garden. Jason, I remember when this

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Speaker 2: series was kind of ramping up two weeks ago, when

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Speaker 2: you and I were on air. You know, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of nostalgia Pacers Knicks whatever. I think it was

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Speaker 2: Game one, er Game two. Reggie's calling the game for

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Speaker 2: TNT he's getting booed. Well, here we are with a

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Speaker 2: Game seven in New York Madison Square Guard in three

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Speaker 2: point thirty Eastern time tomorrow. Is worth noting, by the way,

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Speaker 2: just an hour or about three hours ago, quick update

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Speaker 2: from Adrian Woldronowski there is a chance at ogn and

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Speaker 2: ob who has been out since Game two, could be back.

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Speaker 2: One thing I will say, Josh Hart with that oblique

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Speaker 2: injury anybody. I mean, I've never suffered one, but I've

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Speaker 2: covered sports long enough to know is that that is

606
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Speaker 2: no joke. And Woji even said it on the pregame

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Speaker 2: of Dallas, OKC, which is that you have that injury,

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Speaker 2: it hurts to sneeze, it hurts to move, it hurts

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Speaker 2: to tie your shoes. So I would expect Josh Hart

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Speaker 2: to give it a go. I don't know that we

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Speaker 2: get anything close to one hundred percent, but anyway, that's

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Speaker 2: a long setup for me to say game seven and

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Speaker 2: MSG tomar Jays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, coughing, breathing, pretty much everything hurts. And

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Speaker 3: the thing is in basketball you have to lift your

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Speaker 3: arms up a lot.

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Speaker 2: I heard the wretch you and he have twelve rebounds

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Speaker 2: a game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not, well, that would be tough. If he

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Speaker 3: comes back and he has any kind of even reasonable game,

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Speaker 3: he should be given all the props in the world

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Speaker 3: for that. So of course you were out last week,

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Speaker 3: so Arnie was in and so it was a lot

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Speaker 3: of Knicks talk, which is fine. I'm enjoying the series too,

625
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Speaker 3: but we he asked a question, he goes what team

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Speaker 3: needs to win the most right now in the postseason,

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Speaker 3: and I said, I think it's New York even though

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Speaker 3: they had the lead. And he said, oh, I think

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Speaker 3: it's somebody else. And I said, well, it's not because

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Speaker 3: I think that they ultimately have to win for momentum purposes.

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Speaker 3: It's because they're so banged up that them going into

632
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Speaker 3: a prolonged series is just not the best for them.

633
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Speaker 3: And so here you've got I mean, Anonobe before he

634
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Speaker 3: went out of game too, was outstanding and they need him,

635
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Speaker 3: they truly do. Now what you get out of him

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Speaker 3: if he is able to come back and goes out

637
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Speaker 3: and shoots around and is on the floor, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I challenge him as much as possible if I'm the

639
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Speaker 3: Pacers at that point, and try to make him run

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Speaker 3: and see if there's anything there to wear his little

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Speaker 3: russ he's a little slow, anything like that. Challenge him

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Speaker 3: as much as possible. But I wonder just how big

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Speaker 3: or how much of a teammate Madison Square Garden is

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Speaker 3: going to be for the Knicks because watching the games

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Speaker 3: that have been played there and the environment of those games,

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Speaker 3: I think that is an incredibly difficult ask for Indiana

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Speaker 3: to go in there and expect that like de Vincenzo

648
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Speaker 3: isn't going to go off for eight threes or Brunson's

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Speaker 3: not gonna have forty or something like that. Like every

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Speaker 3: fiber of me, regardless of who's missing and who's out,

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Speaker 3: I just feel like that MSG crowd and that environment

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Speaker 3: might be enough to get them home three and.

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Speaker 2: Zero in this series at home. They also won two

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Speaker 2: of three at MSG against the seventy six or so

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Speaker 2: it's an impossible home court. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: just looking right now, average ticket price in Denver, he

657
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: ain't getting in cheap. It's one hundred and sixty three

658
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Speaker 2: dollars to get into Game seven at Denver MSG. The

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Speaker 2: cheapest ticket four hundred and thirty eight dollars. So, as

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Speaker 2: jmar just said, MSG will be rocket Fox Sports Radio Errators,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin taking me up till two a m. Eastern time.

662
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Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll actually talk about a team

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Speaker 2: that's no longer in the playoffs, the Cleveland Cavaliers, and

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Speaker 2: an interesting fan that showed up for one of their games.

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Speaker 2: This we can't tell you who saved the suspense for

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Speaker 2: after the break. That's next, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from the tyreck dot Com Studios. The game of

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Speaker 2: the night, Dallas Mavericks took care of Oklahoma City one

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Speaker 2: seventeen one sixteen.

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Speaker 3: PJ.

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Speaker 2: Washington File with two and a half seconds left, makes

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Speaker 2: two of three free throws to give ok to give

675
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Speaker 2: Dallas excuse me, a one point lead, Oklahoma City misses

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Speaker 2: a shot at the buzzer. The Dallas Mavericks will now

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Speaker 2: advance to the Western Conference Finals, where they will face

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Speaker 2: the winner of Sunday's Game seven between Minnesota and Denver.

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Speaker 2: J mart a lot of NBA this week. I do

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Speaker 2: want to go all the way back, just for a

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Speaker 2: few minutes here, because obviously it's it's a little bit

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Speaker 2: of old news at this point. But Monday night, Game

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Speaker 2: four in a series that has long been over the

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Speaker 2: Boston Celtics and Cleveland Cavaliers, Game four in Cleveland, Cleveland

685
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Speaker 2: doesn't win, but that wasn't really the noteworthy part. Noteworthy

686
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Speaker 2: part was who was sitting court side?

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Speaker 3: Drew Carrey.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I didn't see him. If he was, was he

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Speaker 2: you were?

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Speaker 3: And I thought that I'd assume that's who you had

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Speaker 3: to be talking about. Nobody else that would have been there.

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Speaker 2: Well, the funny thing was, I was like, did I

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Speaker 2: miss him? Because I don't want to, you know, just

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Speaker 2: brush it off if if you know, mister Cleveland rocks

695
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Speaker 2: was there.

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Speaker 3: But I was doing a bit, I know who you're talking.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the other person who who rocks mister Cleveland? That

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Speaker 2: would be uh, Los Angeles Lakers superstar Lebron James was

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Speaker 2: sitting courtside for Game four.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: A lot of talk after that. What did you make

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Speaker 2: of Lebron James being in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: For that game? So, I you know, full disclosure. Earlier

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Speaker 3: today in our production meeting, I basically said I wanted

705
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Speaker 3: to talk about this because it got under my skin.

706
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: It was Lebron James, and I hated everything about this.

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Speaker 3: I get it from Akron Cleveland's son won a championship

708
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: all this, But dudes, you're a Laker and you're out

709
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Speaker 3: of the playoffs, and if you want to go and

710
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Speaker 3: see the game, then go do it in a press

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Speaker 3: box or something like that, and don't be courtside where

712
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 3: everybody's going to see you and give you you an ovation.

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00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: Not to mention there's speculation that you were also chatting

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Speaker 3: with Donovan Mitchell about how you could get him out

715
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: to la and all this other stuff. It's the Celtics

716
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: and the Calves and it's not the Calves with Lebron James.

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00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: Can we let the two teams that are playing have

718
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Speaker 3: the stage. This is not Stefan Marberry at the Knicks game.

719
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: This is not Latrell spree Well at the Knicks game.

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Speaker 3: This is an active player who never ever has seen

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Speaker 3: a camera that he has not gone to, or an

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Speaker 3: opportunity for a camera to find him that he has avoided.

723
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Speaker 3: He could have easily been at this game, been a

724
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Speaker 3: part of the environment and not been right there in

725
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Speaker 3: front of everybody. But he found a way to do

726
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: it anyway. And look, it's his right. He bought a

727
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 3: ticket ize soon, even though they probably would have comped

728
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: them one anyway. And he sits there court side, but

729
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: he detracts like he's a distraction, and it's all like,

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Speaker 3: is there any way to read this? I guess it's

731
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Speaker 3: a in a way, and maybe there's maybe I'm taking

732
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: it too far, but it just felt like I'm gonna

733
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: make this all about me, even though it shouldn't at

734
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 3: all be about me, because there's two other basketball teams

735
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: that are still playing. My team's been eliminated, and I

736
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 3: just can't get out of the way. And I know

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00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: that I'm gonna get a hero's reception in Cleveland anyway,

738
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Speaker 3: and so I'm gonna go ahead and do this.

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Speaker 2: So I agree with you, and you know, I actually

740
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: think there's a weird parallel that I'm gonna make, But

741
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: I think it's a parallel. Nonetheless, in a week that Bronnie,

742
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 2: of course his son, was going through the NBA draft combine,

743
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Speaker 2: I think there's a parallel to Lebron's a narcissist. It's

744
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: always about Lebron.

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00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 3: It has to.

746
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: I have to have a camera on me, no one

747
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: else matters. And I think there's a degree of that

748
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: with Bronnie James even going through the draft process. I mean, listen,

749
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: every kid is allowed to do what he wants. And

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Speaker 2: I understand that Bronni is in a unique situation, certainly

751
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: with the heart condition whatever, but we all know and

752
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: this isn't a knock on Bronnie. He's not ready for

753
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: the NBA. But really it feels like the only reason

754
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: he's going through the process is because his dad said,

755
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: like four years ago, well, I want to play with

756
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: my son in the NBA. And it wasn't that long ago.

757
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: What was it about six eight months ago? But I

758
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: think even less than that, maybe like three or four

759
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: when the Lakers were struggling, and oh, you know, Bronni

760
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: could help us right now, and Bronny could play for

761
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: us right now. And it's like, this isn't a knock

762
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: on Bronnie. He's nineteen. Maybe he'll get there someday, but

763
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: he's not there yet. But what it just so blatantly

764
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: shows me is that it's always about him, and so

765
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: it's you know, listen, I don't want to oversell it.

766
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Speaker 3: There.

767
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: There's really bad things that happened in the world every day,

768
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: many of which happened this week. You know whatever, but

769
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: it was just gross. Like it's just like, like you said,

770
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: if you're in Cleveland, I think the argument would be, well,

771
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: Bronnie was at the Combine, maybe he was in the

772
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: Midwest anyway, blah blah blah blah blah. But as you said,

773
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: you can sit in a box, you can sit, but

774
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: to sit center court drinking a glass of wine doing

775
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: whatever have to make it about you, it is just

776
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: so exhausting. Man, It's just so exact and just not

777
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: a fan of it at all.

778
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Speaker 3: I'm just really not Yeah, and the brownny thing, you know,

779
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: Bronnie said a few days ago, I think you know,

780
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: I'm not even worried about my dad. I'm just trying

781
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 3: to do this on my own. It's like, well, you

782
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: better be worried about your dad, because if your name,

783
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 3: if your last name happened to be Jones and not James,

784
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: we wouldn't know who you are. Like I hate to

785
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: be that blunt about it, but and I even saw

786
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: stuff coming from but he's impressing at the combine and

787
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 3: shut up, like stop, like please please quiet down. This

788
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 3: is this is a farce. At this point, it doesn't

789
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: mean that maybe he couldn't get there. But the only

790
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 3: reason that we're talking about him at all, and the

791
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: only reason that he's on an NBA radar, or maybe

792
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: he was even on a usc basketball team to begin with,

793
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: is because of who his dad was. And it's it's

794
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 3: okay he says he wants to do it on his own.

795
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: In fact, I would want to do it on my

796
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: own if I were him too, but I wouldn't have

797
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: the opportunity, neither would he if it wasn't for his dad.

798
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: So I don't think that it helps him to say

799
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 3: that because no one's buying it, and as it stands

800
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 3: past that it's just all right. So if the Lakers

801
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: take him into Secon around and we just how many

802
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: people are gonna brush it off and how big stories

803
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: are going to be and all of those things. But

804
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: more to the point of Lebron, it's just you could

805
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: have You could have found a way to keep a

806
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: low profile and still been a part of the event,

807
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: even if you were meeting with Donovan Mitchell, but you

808
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: wanted to be seen. Otherwise you would not have done

809
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: it the way that you did it in the midst

810
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 3: of a playoff series that you had no you know,

811
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Speaker 3: there's no reason for you to be involved in that whatsoever.

812
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: You already burned that city twice. You won a championship

813
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 3: there and you were great there, but you also left

814
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 3: them for Miami, and you left them for LA. Then

815
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: you got beat in LA and decided you were going

816
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: to come back to Cleveland anyway and try to show

817
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: up the Cleveland Boston series. That's how I read it,

818
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: or at the very least, that's the optics that it

819
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: gave off. If you want to be a basketball fan

820
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 3: and go see that and all that kind of stuff,

821
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: you can do it. Nobody knows about it, or even

822
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 3: be in the box, and they'll find you on camera

823
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 3: like that had been fine, honestly, like he could have

824
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 3: been in the box like anybody else in that moment

825
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: and we're still probably would have found him. But him

826
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: being their center court, there is no other reason to

827
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Speaker 3: do that except I'm Lebron James and I want to

828
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Speaker 3: be seen.

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Speaker 2: Zero doubt. By the way, in that game, the Boston

830
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: Celtics did take care of the Cleveland Cavaliers and took

831
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Speaker 2: care of him in that series. We'll be fascinating now

832
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: and maybe we'll talk about it an hour three, But

833
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: you talk about a pathway opening up for Boston with

834
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: a banged up New York or obviously a young indie

835
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Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference Finals. Of course, Game seven tomorrow

836
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Speaker 2: in that series as well. Fox Sports Radio aertors Jason

837
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: Martin taking the two a m. Easter coming up. We

838
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: got a talk NFL schedule release. That's next. Fox Sports Radio.

839
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Speaker 2: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome man, everybody.

840
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Air Tourus. Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: up till two a m. Eastern time. As the Sega

846
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: just told you the story of Saturday evening, the Dallas

847
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: Mavericks advance to the Western Conference Finals. They beat Oklahoma

848
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: City one seventeen one sixteen in Game six in Dallas, PJ. Washington,

849
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: as the Saga just told you just seconds ago, with

850
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: two free throws with under three seconds to go to

851
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: seal the victory. Welcome back to the NBA. In a minute.

852
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: But Jason, we got ourselves a little NFL schedule release

853
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: this week, you know. Yeah, by the way, Uh, first

854
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: of all, I love it. I was tuned in. I

855
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: was over analyzing.

856
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: I don't I don't.

857
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: Appreciate anybody who's making fun of people like me who

858
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: were into it like I enjoy it. Yes, it's overreaction. Yes,

859
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: stuff is gonna happen, There's gonna be injuries, weird things

860
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: are gonna happen. But I loved every second of it.

861
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: Did you tune in? Were you paying it to Tay

862
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: Wednesday evening when the schedule came out.

863
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't, but not because I didn't care, just because

864
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: I had some other things going on that took precedence.

865
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: But certainly I was paying attention to you know, I

866
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: was watching it on my phone to some degree, but

867
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: I didn't watch like I haven't gone out of my

868
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: way to watch all the team videos and all of

869
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: those things, and I haven't dissected every little detail. But

870
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 3: I've certainly seen some things, and I've read some articles.

871
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 3: I mean, we've got a lot of time to get there.

872
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: I certainly like it, Like I think it's cool that

873
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: it's become an event and you can start to look

874
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: at it and you know, other sports. The NBA has

875
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: tried to do it as well, and it doesn't work

876
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: quite the same way. One of the reasons why is

877
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: because there's so many more games. It's just you're looking at, well, win,

878
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: are they going to play these teams as opposed to

879
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: sometimes if, and what network's going to have them, and

880
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: all of these kinds of things. So, I mean, I

881
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: do think there's a lot that goes into this, but

882
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: the NFL finds a way to make everything an event,

883
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: and it's why their sport is what it is in

884
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: America and globally increasingly. So I certainly I've gotten past

885
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: the point of my life where I'm gonna roll my

886
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: eyes at people that love things. I'm just gonna love

887
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: things too, like Danca. You know College Football twenty five

888
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: that's coming out here on July the nineteenth. Yeah, I

889
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 3: pre ordered it. I don't really pre order games anymore,

890
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: but I pre ordered this one, even though it's EA

891
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: and I don't trust them at all. But I'm excited

892
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 3: about it because of what it meant to me for

893
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: so many years, and anybody that's like me understands where

894
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: I'm coming from, and those that want to hate on that,

895
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 3: I just I don't have time for that anymore. If

896
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: it's something I don't like, I'll just move on. But

897
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 3: I'm not going to bury you because you like.

898
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 2: It Western Kentucky coming in form a dynasty.

899
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: And you see it. It's coming baby.

900
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 2: NCA twenty five. Well, I'll tell you what. Let's actually

901
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: break down some of these schedules. Mary, give us a

902
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: little music, put us in the mood. J Martin, I'll

903
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: give you the floor. Give me one reaction that came

904
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: out of Wednesday night when he had a chance to

905
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: look at this schedules.

906
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 3: Well, I mean one was just that Brady's first game

907
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: is gonna be calling a Dallas Cowboys game. I mean,

908
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: I just that's that's a little bit different. That's not

909
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: a matchup. Like we can talk about the toughest schedules

910
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: and all that, and I'm sure we will because we've

911
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: got plenty of time here tonight. But and but I

912
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: just say I was interested to see, you know, what's

913
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 3: Brady's first game gonna be as a broadcaster, and it's

914
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: gonna be the Cowboys, Because well, if you work with Fox,

915
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: that's where you're gonna be And I mean it's just

916
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 3: interesting because you know, that's a team that and that's

917
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: that's that America's team loved to hate and Brady kind

918
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: of had that same mantra and brought that to the Patriot.

919
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: So I find that. I definitely find that interesting. And

920
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: then yeah, if you wanted me to get into toughest schedules,

921
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: I think Buffalo is gonna have a rough year.

922
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: Hmm, interesting, buff So I'll throw that one.

923
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: What do you have?

924
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 2: Okay? Uh So, first of all, with Buffalo, let's talk

925
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: about them. They open with the Cardinals. Obviously the Dolphins

926
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: in week two. I'll tell you what. Middle of the

927
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: pack Chiefs, and I'll tell you what. Let me throw

928
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: one at you. And I'm curious for your perspective because

929
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 2: so I've heard a lot about the Jets and obviously, look,

930
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: the Jets open Monday Night against the San Francisco forty

931
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: nine ers, first Monday night game of the season. It's

932
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: gonna be awesome. We're all excited, okay. And I will

933
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: say first three weeks are interesting because they have a

934
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: Monday Night, then they have a Sunday where they play

935
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: on the road. Again, So they'll get back probably early Tuesday,

936
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: that have to get back on the road Thursday, whatever.

937
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: Then their first home game is actually a Thursday. So

938
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: certainly an interesting front end, kind of highlighted by the

939
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine Ers. I'll tell you this, Jason, though,

940
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 2: you look at the rest of the schedule, obviously taking

941
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: out division opponents Buffalo and Miami, which maybe it isn't fair,

942
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: but you're talking about two games the rest of the

943
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: season outside of that opener against the forty nine Ers,

944
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: with teams that made playoffs last year. So you got

945
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: a lot of Steelers, a lot of Cardinals, and I

946
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 2: understand it's a last play schedule, but I think if

947
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: you can put aside that, yeah, you start on the

948
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 2: road at San Francisco, it does feel like a pretty

949
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: manageable schedule for Aaron Rodgers and the Jet s Jets,

950
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: Jets Jets.

951
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: It does on paper. I think the one thing that

952
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: we always have to keep in mind is that usually

953
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: in this league, somewhere between forty and sixty percent of

954
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: last year's playoff teams turnover. Yep, some teams that were

955
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: there won't be there. The question is, is the schedule

956
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: you find easy, gonna still look easy at the end

957
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 3: of the year, or is it gonna be well? On paper, boy,

958
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 3: this one should have been an opportunity. But what you're

959
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 3: saying is right. I mean, in division it's still gonna

960
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: be a bit of a bear, but you look outside

961
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: of the division. I think more than anything you can

962
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 3: say as of right now, would be impossible to call

963
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 3: it anything other than a golden opportunity for this Jets

964
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 3: team to take massive steps forward, should Aaron Rodgers be

965
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: able to stay healthy for them and the other guys

966
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 3: contribute like you would anticipate they would with a real quarterback.

967
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, really quickly. The two games against non playoff against

968
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: playoff teams not named the Bills or the Dolphins from

969
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: last year Texans at home on Halloween night or Halloween, Yeah,

970
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: Halloween night, and then late in the season right around

971
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: Christmas time against the Rams at home. Jason, you mentioned

972
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: the Bills really quick, So the Bills obviously you know

973
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: in division, certainly an interesting rival developing with the Miami Dolphins,

974
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: but Baltimore the last weekend of September obviously the Texans

975
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: as well, and then late in the season Chiefs at

976
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: home forty nine Ers at home and Lions on the road.

977
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: So you're right as far as the Bill or as

978
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: far as the Bills are concerned. Certainly some marquee matchups there, Jason, Yeah.

979
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 3: I mean it's not gonna be easy for them, and

980
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: they're gonna be a different team this year. They're gonna

981
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: look different. I think the feeling surrounding them going into

982
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 3: the year is gonna be different. I think a lot

983
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: of eyes are gonna be on McDermott this year. I

984
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: think a lot of question marks are gonna be on

985
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 3: what's Josh Allen gonna do? Now? The Stefan Diggs is

986
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: not there, even though they've tried to reload. You know,

987
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: we'll see how that goes. One other thing about the Jets,

988
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 3: Six of those first eleven are primetime games, So the

989
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: networks are betting big on the Aaron Rodgers effect, I

990
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: would say, and what that is going to mean? So

991
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 3: the only thing that you would say, and I actually

992
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: saw this at the Athletic, was if if the Jets

993
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: do struggle and they're being watched by a lot of

994
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: people in prime time, the negative attention on them is

995
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: gonna be massive, And then you wonder what Aaron Rodgers

996
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: does in that moment. If it does go that way. Now,

997
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think that it's going to but you know,

998
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 3: they've got their first three games are in eleven day span,

999
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: and that's that's gonna be a bit of a that's

1000
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: gonna be a bit that's gonna be a big kind

1001
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 3: of moment for them to show what they're gonna be.

1002
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 3: It's it does have a I think the word that

1003
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: I saw in the article was treacherous. I think it's stretchers.

1004
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 3: If you get through that kind of the early stretch,

1005
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 3: I think you set yourself up pretty well. And so

1006
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: we've kind of just sit here and talked about one division.

1007
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: Give me another one. What else you got?

1008
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: Well? I mean, I think that you're looking at the

1009
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: rookie schedules. Somebody, somebody on Fox this week, I don't

1010
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 3: know who it was. Somebody on our airwaves though, said

1011
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 3: why can't the why can't the Bears win? Yeah?

1012
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: Nick Wright said that.

1013
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 3: Nick Wright said, Okay, I know I got an email

1014
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: about it, but I didn't know who. I can't remember

1015
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 3: who it was. It said that. I'm not saying that

1016
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 3: that's like insane, but that was a that's a bold

1017
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 3: take to make that would be like if they're even

1018
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: if they're this year's Texans. The Texans didn't win the AFC.

1019
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: They had a great year with maybe the greatest rookie

1020
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 3: year we've ever seen from a quarterback, and they still,

1021
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 3: you know, they weren't in this super Bowl. So I

1022
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 3: don't know exactly how you would get there in a

1023
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 3: division I think is far better than the AFC South

1024
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 3: was last year for the Texans. But I am certainly

1025
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: looking at Caleb who's going to open up against the

1026
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans and their new head coach and so, and

1027
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 3: you know, they spent some money. The Titans have spent

1028
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 3: some money on the defensive side of the ball, spent

1029
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 3: some draft picks as well, and they're working on their

1030
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 3: offensive line. So is Caleb gonna be able to show

1031
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: something early?

1032
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 8: Like?

1033
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: I think that just watching those guys and then seeing

1034
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 3: the opportunity for him and Jayden Daniels in Week eight

1035
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: and then maybe Drake May if he's playing in Week ten,

1036
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: you actually are gonna get a chance to see, you know,

1037
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 3: rookie versus rookie twice in a three week span, So

1038
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 3: I think that's interesting.

1039
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, and I would say this too. I find

1040
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: it interesting is that I feel like the NFL usually

1041
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: First of all, I heard Nick say it on air,

1042
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: and I don't want to speak for him, but I

1043
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 2: think essentially his argument was, they went seven to ten

1044
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 2: with really bad quarterback play last year, and they were

1045
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: better even last year once they got Montese sweat that defense.

1046
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: And now you add Keenan Allen, you add Romadunze, and

1047
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: obviously we expect there to be a significant upgrade at quarterback.

1048
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 2: I'll just say this, in general, I feel like the

1049
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: NFL usually does a better job of highlighting it's star

1050
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: young players, like you know, I remember, you know, Burrow

1051
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: versus Tua was I think a Thursday night game, and

1052
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 2: you know whatever, There's been so many of them where

1053
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 2: you look at the you know, you look at the Bears.

1054
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: I guess Week two, they play at Houston. That'll be

1055
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 2: a Stroud versus Caleb Williams game.

1056
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1057
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: But other than that, really, outside of that, you get

1058
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: the Lions on Thanksgiving Day.

1059
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 3: With no look at thirteen, fourteen, and fifteen, they're all

1060
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: on the road. Detroit is the first one, then to

1061
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: San Francisco and two Minnesota.

1062
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I guess a little bit later in the

1063
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 2: year a couple standalone intriguing games. So yeah, you're that's fair,

1064
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: that's fair. I just it felt like there, it just

1065
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: feels like there's not a lot of meat on the

1066
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: bone early. Now there's some intriguing matchups versus Stroud on

1067
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: Sunday Night football week two, versus Anthony Richardson in week three.

1068
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

1069
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: But but but you know, not as much as I

1070
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: thought really quickly, Jason, I'll say this too. I was

1071
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: thinking about this and and I don't even know what

1072
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 2: I expect from this team. I'm just intrigued by the

1073
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: Vikings from this perspective. Now, the Vikings obviously this year

1074
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 2: going in uh, Sam Darnold, we project will be the starter.

1075
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy at some point you expect would get run.

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00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: But I'm just curious in that, like Detroit is like

1077
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: that bona fide they're here, this is their window whatever.

1078
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: The Packers are kind of like that young, sexy upstart team.

1079
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: And then obviously the Bears we just talked about should

1080
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: be much improved. Caleb Williams. Whatever. It feels like the

1081
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: Vice Vikings are sort of in no man's land. But

1082
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: it also I also just can't see them with a

1083
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: lot of the talent they have in a lot of

1084
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: places besides the quarterback position being really bad. So I

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00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: just think the NFC North's interesting to me because I,

1086
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: like I said, I think there's there's three teams that

1087
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 2: everybody is excited about for different reasons, and I don't

1088
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 2: really see all three of those teams all reaching their potential.

1089
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: Does that?

1090
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 3: Does that?

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00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: So it's a Minnesota conversation, but it's kind of sort

1092
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: of not a Minnesota conversation, you know what I mean?

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00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't I think Minnesota's gonna be

1094
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna feel about Minnesota about how I felt about

1095
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 3: them last year with Kirk Cousins. Like, I think they're

1096
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: They're not going to be the worst team in the league,

1097
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: but I'm not necessarily expecting them to win the division

1098
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 3: or maybe even be in the mix at the end,

1099
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: because Detroit and Green Bay fascinate me more. And then

1100
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 3: of course the Caleb Williams factor. I think the whole

1101
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 3: division is going to be really interesting. I think that

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00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 3: the NFC North in general is gonna be well worth watching.

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00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: So I think that's one to look at. One thing

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00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 3: I just saw Drake may if let's say he plays

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00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: pretty much for the year in New England, which we

1106
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 3: don't know for sure. We've heard what Jerod Mayo said

1107
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: about he's got a long way to go. But then

1108
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 3: the players are saying he looks great when he's throwing

1109
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 3: the football, and they love the way the ball cups

1110
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 3: out of his hands and all this kind of stuff,

1111
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 3: so they play. He's gonna play against Josh Allen twice,

1112
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers twice, two or twice now injuries barring, barring injuries,

1113
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 3: he'll play against Kayleb Williams, c J. Stroud, Anthony Richardson,

1114
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Matthew Stafford, Trevor Lawrence, Brock Purty,

1115
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: and Kyler Murray.

1116
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: Huh.

1117
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 3: There is no one else in the league that is

1118
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 3: playing against more good quarterbacks than the New England Patriots

1119
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 3: are this year with their rookie quarterback.

1120
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm looking at the schedule right now,

1121
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: there's an argument that even if Drake may hits, they

1122
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 2: will have the inferior quarterback in all but two games.

1123
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: They play the Seahawks at home in Week two, and

1124
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 2: then they play the Where am I missing here the Titans,

1125
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: your Tennessee Titans in you know, first week in November,

1126
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: like you listed all of them. So there's an argument

1127
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: that Drake may could be could be good, excuse me,

1128
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 2: and they could be at a quarterback disadvantage in fifteen

1129
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: to seventeen games. That's kind of cool. That's assuming that

1130
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 2: he's good, by the way, Yeah, if he isn't, could

1131
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 2: be a long year in New England.

1132
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, that one' would be rough. And then just

1133
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 3: just another one that stands out a bit. Ten days

1134
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: in December. If you're a Steelers fan, you gotta face Philly,

1135
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 3: Baltimore and Kansas City.

1136
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: How about this? So I looked it up today. Of

1137
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: their final eight games, six of them are in division. Okay,

1138
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: so and that division. Obviously, the Browns won whatever ten

1139
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: games last year. We know about Baltimore Cincinnati. They were

1140
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: awesome with Joe Burrow. So six games in division, including

1141
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: at Cincinnati, at Baltimore, and then your two non division

1142
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: games are what Jason Martin just told you at Philly,

1143
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: Casey at home poor Russell Wilson Man, Poor Russell Wilson

1144
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: and Justin Fields maybe both out of the league by

1145
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 2: the end of this year the way things are trending.

1146
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 2: So listen. I know a lot of people have talked

1147
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: about the Steelers this week because it does stick out

1148
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 2: like a sore thumb with that schedule. But my goodness, man,

1149
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: as I just said, the final eight, two against the Browns,

1150
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: two against the Ravens, two against the Bengals, and then oh,

1151
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: by the way, and by the way, I think I

1152
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: said it was just at Cleveland and at Cincinnati, TI

1153
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 2: at Cleveland, Cincinnian, Baltimore. So two against the Bengals, two

1154
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: against the Browns, two against the Ravens Philly on the road. Case.

1155
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 3: Also also David Tepperman, good stuff he's doing in Carolina.

1156
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 3: What do they got, plastics? They've got no primetime games.

1157
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 3: They're the only team in the league without any primetime

1158
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 3: game at all this year.

1159
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: That's great. So when he throws ice at fans, it

1160
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: won't be as big of a story the next.

1161
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 3: Day exactly, and the ice might be harder to pick

1162
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 3: up because it's going to be daylight pretty much every

1163
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 3: time they're playing.

1164
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know, you know who appreciates them

1165
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 2: not having a single primetime game America because I don't

1166
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: want to watch that team, so they stink, or at

1167
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 2: least I think they will. Fox Sports Radio Airtors Jason Martin,

1168
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tirec dot com studios. Shortly after

1169
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: the show, our podcast will be going up. If you

1170
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: missed any of today's show, be sure to check out

1171
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

1172
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: your shows, and be sure to also follow, rate and

1173
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: review the podcast. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1174
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts, and you'll see this show posted

1175
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: right after we get off air. Tell you what, Jason

1176
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: will come back when we do want to talk about

1177
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: the WNBA because for a league that is pressing for

1178
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: coverage and for perks and for all sorts of stuff,

1179
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: they sure do complain a lot, with maybe the dumbest

1180
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: complaints so far coming today. That's next, Fox Sports. Are

1181
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: you welcome back? Everybody? Fox Sports Radio Arators Jason Martin,

1182
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tireraq dot Com studio. So WNBA

1183
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: season is underway, which is it? I was gonna say

1184
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 2: credit to Kaitlin Clark because that's I don't think I

1185
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: ever a sentence that I've ever set on this show.

1186
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: So listen, there's been a lot of conversation about Kaitlin Clark.

1187
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: But and we're gonna get to that maybe after we

1188
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: touch out with the saga here in just a few minutes.

1189
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: I need to vent about something, Jason, Okay, I need

1190
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 2: to I'm kind of fire breathe Yeah, Okay, So basically

1191
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: since before, I mean, it's been going on for years,

1192
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: but let's be honest, nobody really cared because nobody cared

1193
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: about WNBA. But basically since Kaitlin Clark he became obviously

1194
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: she was going to the league, it has been what

1195
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: I deemed to be mostly negative headlines from the perspective

1196
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: of you know, current players questioning her. A lot of

1197
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: just negative energy in the air, and there's a lot

1198
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: of just how unfair things are for the WNBA. Well,

1199
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark's rookie salary is this compared to Victor Wayne Bayama. Well, yeah,

1200
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:26,479
Speaker 2: it's because the NBA makes actual money in the WNBA, doesn't. Well,

1201
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: I mean there's video of Caitlin Clark. She is flying

1202
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: commercial and look at her picking up her bags. How

1203
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: could we Well, it's because uh, you know, flying commercial

1204
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: is a is or flying private is a luxury, not

1205
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 2: a necessity. And then oh, By the way, the WNBA

1206
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: within the last couple weeks decided that they're going to

1207
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 2: fly all their players private, spending a lot of money

1208
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: that they frankly don't have. So basically all I have

1209
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: heard is how the poor WNBA. Nothing's fair, there's no money.

1210
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: They all deserve more, even though the league doesn't make

1211
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 2: any money. So on SAT. Morning, I was scrolling social

1212
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: media and I came across this video. I didn't really

1213
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: think much of it, but it was the Las Vegas

1214
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 2: Convention and Visitors Authority basically announcing a deal with the

1215
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Aces that was going to pay each player

1216
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars. And I like just wasn't something

1217
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: that like registered in my brain that this is a

1218
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: big thing whatever. But it's kind of cool. You know,

1219
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: two time WNBA champs. Obviously Asia Wilson is a star,

1220
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: and you know, it just seemed like a feel good thing.

1221
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: Everybody in locker room's fired up. It's it's it's a

1222
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: lot of money whatever, blah blah blah. Well, now the

1223
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 2: WNBA is investigating this deal from the Las Vegas Convention

1224
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: in Visitors Authority, basically under the assumption that giving all

1225
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: these players one hundred thousand dollars could be a conflict

1226
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: of interest or unfair because every play, every team, and

1227
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: every market doesn't have access to those kind of sponsorship opportunities.

1228
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: One to me, this feels like an endorsement deal. And

1229
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: so if the Indiana Fever or the Connecticut Sun, if

1230
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: they go out and find somebody, that absolutely, But then

1231
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: beyond that we're complaining about how it's so unfair. The

1232
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Conventionive Visitors Authority steps up, takes care of

1233
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: the team, and it's problematic. Like I just I know,

1234
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm yelling, and I'm sure there's people driving over all

1235
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: over the country, like Taurres stops screaming into my radio.

1236
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: But all I have heard is complaints about how unfair

1237
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 2: it is, how nobody's getting paid, how there's no advent

1238
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: and now you're getting exactly what you wanted. And all

1239
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: we're still getting is complaints. Jason, and am I going crazy?

1240
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: Am I going crazy? Or am I missing something here?

1241
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: Because this is like the crazy I don't even like it,

1242
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: just it makes me mad. Obviously, go ahead, Jason.

1243
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 3: Whatever bag you can get, go get the bags. That's

1244
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what it is. I mean, this is

1245
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 3: basically just nil for the WNBA. Like if somebody wants

1246
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 3: to give them a deal and it's it doesn't Here's

1247
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 3: the thing. It doesn't have to be because of the

1248
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 3: way this league's set up and because of where it

1249
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 3: finds itself. If there's a team that can make money,

1250
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 3: go make money. If there's another market that wants to

1251
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 3: go find somebody that can help them make money, they

1252
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 3: should go make money. But this doesn't mean it needs

1253
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 3: to be applied universally. That's the mistake here. This is

1254
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: not a league like, this is not a league like

1255
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 3: the NFL or something like that. I know that we're

1256
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 3: not supposed to say some of these things, but I'm

1257
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 3: going to say something else that certain people will not like,

1258
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 3: and that's this. Every single player in the WNBA is

1259
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 3: overpaid except Caitlin Clark. And here's what I mean. You're

1260
01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 3: worth what the market says you're worth. I would say overpaid.

1261
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 3: But since that's the salary they're getting, Okay, I guess

1262
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 3: in that brain, Okay, you're making, you're making, You're worth

1263
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 3: what somebody's willing to pay you. Okay. But this whole

1264
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 3: idea that all they've been underpaid for so long. And

1265
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 3: there was one of the quotes in that article about

1266
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: the the Vegas Tourist Bureau where when the players said, oh,

1267
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 3: we've done so much for this city and all this

1268
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 3: you have, like, I mean, maybe you have, but it's

1269
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 3: not something that that's known all that well. The problem

1270
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 3: with the WNBA is everything is individual because it's not

1271
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 3: a league that has power. It's not a league full

1272
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 3: of stars. I saw, I saw comments. I guess I

1273
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: was paying attention. I don't know why this was a

1274
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 3: giant mistake. I was paying attention to the comment thread

1275
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 3: live during the during Caitlin Clark's debut game, her home game,

1276
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 3: and so many commenters and by so many, I mean five,

1277
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 3: because that was seemingly all that we're actually commenting during

1278
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 3: the game. I was very curious how many people were

1279
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 3: going to be active. They were furious. They were like,

1280
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 3: ESPN's doing such a disservice to this game by only

1281
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 3: focusing on Caitlin Clark on what she's doing. And I'm like,

1282
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 3: if they don't, everybody's gonna turn this off. Like you

1283
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 3: can make whatever you can make, whatever claims that you

1284
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 3: want to make. They have one marketable star, one that

1285
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 3: doesn't mean they don't have other good players, doesn't mean

1286
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 3: there's not other talented people, doesn't mean there's not other

1287
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 3: charismatic people that hopefully are going to be able to

1288
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 3: go out and get their own bags. And you've seen

1289
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 3: a few of those things happen. And now you're seeing

1290
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 3: this thing with the Vegas situation and all this. You

1291
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 3: don't have a league. You have a player. You have

1292
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 3: a player that is bigger than the sport itself. And

1293
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 3: so all of these articles that are being written and

1294
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 3: the Christine Brennan's of the world that are coming out

1295
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 3: here and talking all these women have been underpaid for

1296
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 3: so long. No, they've been overpaid because what value are

1297
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 3: they bringing back in terms of revenue? Like, it's not

1298
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 3: about how good they are, how talented they are, it's

1299
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 3: about how much are people willing to pay to see that,

1300
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 3: How much merchandise are they selling, What are the television

1301
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 3: ratings and the ad dollars that are being brought in

1302
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 3: from the league. It's a brass tax thing. It's a

1303
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 3: business thing. It's not a personal thing. The league doesn't profit,

1304
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 3: it doesn't make money. So when you come out and

1305
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 3: you lament all these other things, to say, well, Caitlyn's

1306
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 3: getting all these opportunities right because she's unique. Ye, there's

1307
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 3: something different about her and we knew that before she

1308
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 3: got into the league. Glom onto it all you want,

1309
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 3: but don't lament the fact that she has these opportunities

1310
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 3: or these you know, this class over here in Vegas

1311
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 3: is getting this. Be happy anybody is, because if one does,

1312
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 3: maybe at some point there will be more. But don't

1313
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 3: look at this as if it should be universally applied,

1314
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 3: because that's just not how life works well.

1315
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 2: And it's like, and I think the way you put

1316
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: it is nil for pros because it is. It's like,

1317
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: by the way, what has been the complaint about the

1318
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 2: NBA forever? I mean, you know, there's all sorts of complaints,

1319
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: but one of them is New York, LA, Miami they

1320
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 2: have advantages that Milwaukee and Cleveland don't. I don't hear

1321
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: the Milwaukee and I don't even know who's actually complaining

1322
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 2: about this, but like, I don't hear the Milwaukee Bucks

1323
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: players saying, well, I mean, you know, Lebron gets to

1324
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 2: be in movies because he lives in LA and it's

1325
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 2: so unfair and you have to let all of us

1326
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 2: be in book. No, No, everyone has advantages. By the way,

1327
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: the Dodgers they make like I can't put an exact

1328
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: number on it, but they make significantly more revenue than

1329
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: fill in the blank. And I'm not gonna but the

1330
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: Florida Marlins like they do. Are the Dodgers supposed to

1331
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 2: take less revenue then? And I know it's not apples

1332
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: to apples because revenue goes to the team and then

1333
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 2: the team goes into the salaries as opposed to this

1334
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: is just basically an nil deal. But it's like every

1335
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 2: sport has markets that have advantages. It's like, yeah, I

1336
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 2: don't know, man, I just I.

1337
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 3: You know, everything about this is infuriating because they make

1338
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 3: it so easy to not want this league to succeed.

1339
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: That's how I feel it really is. And it's just

1340
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 2: it's nothing but negative. And maybe we toss to Sega

1341
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 2: and then we'll come back and talk very quickly about

1342
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark's first week. But it's just like everything is

1343
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 2: everything is a thing, and even when you get what

1344
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: you want, you're still complaining about it. So sorry for

1345
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 2: yelling in your radios, America. But Fox Sports Radio air

1346
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 2: tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studio.

1347
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: Is we will talk a little bit about Kaylyn Clark,

1348
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: who had her third, let's be honest, relatively forgettable game

1349
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: on Saturday. That's next. First of to Sega, what's trending.

1350
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 10: Context on the sports before we get to WNBA. Is

1351
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 10: you mentioned Dodgers have their own channel. Before that, the

1352
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 10: Yankee started their own channel. That's a non salary cap league.

1353
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 10: I like the others, so people like the Mariners that

1354
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 10: are at an immediate disadvantage compared to some of the

1355
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 10: other teams who I think with the Dodgers contract having

1356
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 10: their own channel, they essentially pay for the bulk of

1357
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 10: their payroll before they ever sell one ticket every year.

1358
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 10: That's how huge the twenty five year comes.

1359
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 3: Is also a sore subject right now because of the

1360
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 3: whole RSN deal with balles. Others have braves like from

1361
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 3: I can't watch my team right now.

1362
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:19,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, and then now baseball has had to overtake operations.

1363
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 10: I mean this Padres had this problem last year. Angels,

1364
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 10: It's yeah, it's it's not an even playing field the

1365
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 10: context of it. As for the WNBA, the NBA has

1366
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 10: owned half of that league. And given them an endowment annually.

1367
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 10: So this an allowance.

1368
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 2: Let's just go on.

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01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 11: This covers costs.

1370
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 10: I mean, all the talk about WNBA travel, who's paying

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01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 10: for WNBA travel, it's the NBA. And regarding sponsorship with Vegas.

1372
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 10: And a note about Nil, it's they mentioned it on

1373
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 10: the broadcast today with the WNBA game. I hadn't heard

1374
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 10: about it. Apparently it was yesterday. The annument to the players,

1375
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 10: and that is notable. It's one hundred thousand dollars annual sponsorship,

1376
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 10: not to the star players, every player on the leg

1377
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 10: Las Vegas roster for this year and for next year.

1378
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 3: And good for them.

1379
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 10: And they are championship team and there are players on

1380
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 10: this roster that don't make one hundred thousand dollars in

1381
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 10: their season, so this is enormous for them. And I

1382
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 10: guess because it's a salary cap league, I guess that's

1383
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 10: why the WNBA would be investigating.

1384
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 11: Is this fair?

1385
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 10: And what about free agents in the future, They're all

1386
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 10: gonna want to go to Vegas, et cetera.

1387
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:25,799
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

1388
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 10: But as far as Nil, I'm glad you guys brought

1389
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 10: up the college football video game.

1390
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 11: That's gonna make you coming out, because with.

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01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 10: Nil and the rulings, we're gonna have actual names of

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01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 10: actual college football players in it.

1393
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 3: Now.

1394
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 2: I have read that.

1395
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 11: There are a couple of announcing teams in the video game.

1396
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 11: They're on, led by Rhys Davis, who said yesterday he

1397
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 11: has over the last two years, put in two hundred

1398
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:47,719
Speaker 11: and fifty hours of work.

1399
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so unfair to Joe tessitur. Why

1400
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: doesn't he just whine about it a little bit aside?

1401
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 10: He says he's put in thirty thousand ish samples or

1402
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 10: takes working.

1403
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 11: On this video game, just for the record.

1404
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 10: And in the WNBA today, Indiana ozho to three lost

1405
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 10: at New York ninety one point eighty New York three

1406
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 10: and zero, led by twenty one in the second quarter

1407
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,560
Speaker 10: Caitlin Clark twenty two points, eight assists, eight turnovers.

1408
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 11: In the NBA.

1409
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 10: Playoffs tonight, five seed Dallas advanced to the Western Conference

1410
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 10: Finals that start Wednesday. MAVs eliminated one seed Oklahoma City

1411
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 10: one seventeen to one sixteen, despite trailing by sixteen points

1412
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 10: at the half, but two free throws with two seconds

1413
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 10: left from PJ. Washington won it. We got a couple

1414
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 10: of game sevens to finish the second round. Tomorrow, Boston

1415
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 10: awaits the series winner of New York.

1416
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 11: Indiana.

1417
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 10: Celtics will be hosting games one and two starting Tuesday

1418
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 10: in the Eastern Conference Finals. In the NHL Playoff second Round.

1419
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 10: Edmonton is still alive after ripping Vancouver tonight five to

1420
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 10: one game seven at Vancouver on Monday. Xander Schoffley and

1421
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 10: Colin Morikawa are tied for the lead at the PGA Championship,

1422
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 10: up by one stroke in Louisville. Morikawa burned the final

1423
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 10: hole today, so he's also fifteen under. There have been

1424
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 10: so many great scores golfer to golfer throughout the weekend.

1425
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 10: There we have thirteen golfers within five shots of the lead.

1426
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 10: After two rounds, there were seventy eight players under par,

1427
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 10: the most ever in the history of any major, and

1428
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 10: now heading into Sunday, we have fifteen golfers already double

1429
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 10: digits under par, over twice as many as there have

1430
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 10: ever been in a major. Shane Lowry shot a third

1431
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 10: round sixty two today that ties the record low for

1432
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 10: a major. Last time that ever happened was Thursday. Shane

1433
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 10: Lowry is two shots back Bryson Deshamba also two back,

1434
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 10: and Justin Rose shot sixty four. He moved up to

1435
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,839
Speaker 10: a tie for seventh place, just three back Justin Thomas

1436
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 10: five back sees. The Gray won the Preakness leading wire

1437
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 10: to wire in Major League Baseball, Texas in thirteen innings

1438
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 10: won the game on Fox TV tonight, beat the Angels

1439
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 10: three to two on a basis loaded hit batter. The

1440
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 10: San Diego in Atlanta game was rained out. They'll play

1441
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 10: a doubleheader on Monday. Oh well, the Phillies won again.

1442
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 10: They have won eighteen of their last twenty two games.

1443
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 10: Phil's in ten innings beat Washington four to three on

1444
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 10: a Bryce Harper sack fly I Phils had tied it

1445
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 10: on a solo homer bottom of the ninth our. John

1446
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 10: Morosi points out that with the Phillies winning yet again,

1447
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 10: they have a four game lead in the NL East.

1448
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 10: The Braves have not been this far out of the

1449
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 10: division lead in over a year and a half. Since

1450
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 10: August of twenty twenty two, Atlanta has won that division

1451
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 10: each of the last six seasons. Back to you, thank

1452
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 10: you very much.

1453
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 2: To Saga. We'll be back in just a moment here

1454
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: With the sagas extended update. Fox Sports Radio Aeron Toards

1455
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 2: Jasmartin broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. Jmart,

1456
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 2: Let's do the obligatory quick Caitlin Clark thing, as the

1457
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: saga just said, fever fall to zero to three. Caitlyn

1458
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: Clark as we speak currently this season savaging fourteen and

1459
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 2: a half points per game, but seventeen assists, twenty one

1460
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 2: turnovers on the season, struggling shooting from three as well

1461
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: on the on the Caitlyn Clark panic Meter, How worried

1462
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: are you about her her slow start here?

1463
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 3: I don't really think I'm that worried. I mean, I

1464
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,719
Speaker 3: actually did I watched a good bit of the opener.

1465
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 3: I didn't watch any of the second game. I'm not

1466
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 3: even sure it was on, And I kind of kept

1467
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 3: up on the box score a little bit today. And

1468
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 3: I mean, she she played well. There's not a lot

1469
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 3: around her that's very apparent. But that first game, look,

1470
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 3: it looked like she was gonna have to get used

1471
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 3: to the speed and the level of defense that she

1472
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 3: was seeing because they were going at her, and she

1473
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 3: was really keen on trying these crafty passes that worked

1474
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 3: a lot in the Big Ten and were turnovers.

1475
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: She ain't playing Northwestern anymore, Caitlyn.

1476
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, exact, go play inter murals, brother, Like it's all

1477
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 3: of the it was. It just it looked like a

1478
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 3: different class. It definitely looked like and I even you

1479
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 3: could even see it on her, like in just some

1480
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 3: of her reactions, like, you know, it's a different environment

1481
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 3: and it's going to take some time. And look, wom

1482
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 3: Migyana was unbelievable this year with the Spurs. They didn't

1483
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 3: won a whole lot of games, though, and you know

1484
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 3: there's something to being the first pick in the draft,

1485
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 3: the way that it's set up, and you know, Indiana

1486
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 3: gets that first pick with Indiana was absolutely horrendous last year,

1487
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 3: even with Boston and some of the other stuff, like

1488
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 3: just kind of looking into what they were going to

1489
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 3: because I wanted to see what Caitlin was walking into.

1490
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 3: And but I'll admit again, I knew their season was starting,

1491
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 3: and I tuned in and streamed it as I was

1492
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 3: also watching the NBA game on my phone, but I

1493
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Speaker 3: paid attention to it. That has never happened before with

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Speaker 3: the WNBA, not in a championship round, not in the

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01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 3: day that their league debuted. Never before has that happened.

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01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 3: I was curious to see what it was going to

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01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 3: look like, and it's you know, they're not gonna win

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01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,440
Speaker 3: a lot of games. And that's unfort for the television

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01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 3: side because the playoffs aren't going to matter because I

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01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 3: don't think people are tuning in and finding out. Man,

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01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 3: there's a lot of great players that I want to

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01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 3: watch in this league. All they want to do is

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01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 3: either see Kaitlyn Clark succeed or see her fail. That's

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01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 3: what it is at this point. It is the t

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01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 3: Bow effect, it is the Brady effect, it is whoever

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01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 3: it is that you want to mention. It is a

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01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 3: polarizing yes or no, and that's the curiosity factor. And

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01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 3: when that's eliminated, I just don't think they have a

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01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 3: league that is a marketable property.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting stuff. The Indiana Fever fall two zero and

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01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 2: three today in the WNBA. See what happens. I'm curious

1512
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 2: to see how the impact of what happens if Caitlynd

1513
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 2: Clark continues to struggle and if the Fever aren't relevant.

1514
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin will come back to

1515
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: Sager with his extended update that he gives us every

1516
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: week at twelve forty five Eastern. That's next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio er Torris ja Smartin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tire req dot Com studios, as

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01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 2: we do every week around this time. Let's toss it

1520
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: over to the news desk to the SEGA for his

1521
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: extended update.

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01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 10: Guys, that Denver Nuggets are defending NBA champs. They could

1523
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 10: be meeting Luka Donsich in Dallas in the Western Conference

1524
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 10: Finals that start Wednesday. We'll see Denver is hosting that

1525
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 10: game seven Sunday night against Minnesota, but it could be

1526
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 10: Donsich against MVP Jokic. Slovenia versus Serbia in the Western

1527
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 10: Conference Finals. Slovenia small country in Eastern Europe, population of

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01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 10: about two million, so notably smaller than the city of

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01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 10: Los Angeles. Just for the record, however, it has been

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01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 10: an independent country for over thirty years independent from Yugoslavia,

1531
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 10: and Serbia became a country after the breakup of Yugoslavia.

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01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 10: These two near neighboring countries are only about three hundred

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01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 10: and fifty miles apart, In other words, about the distance

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01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 10: of San Francisco to La and we could have a

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01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 10: best of seven with Donsich against Jokich to see who

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01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 10: goes to the NBA Finals, which start June six. I

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01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 10: will say yes, a third straight triple double for Luka Donsich,

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01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 10: but he also had seven turnovers tonight off the bench

1539
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 10: Derek Lively with fifteen rebounds as the MAVs come from

1540
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 10: behind in advance. They were down seventeen in the third quarter.

1541
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 10: So Kyrie Irving is still undefeated in close out games

1542
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 10: in his NBA career fourteen and oh they were up

1543
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,799
Speaker 10: three games to two and closed it out at home tonight.

1544
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 10: As for the late foul and video review, it was

1545
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,799
Speaker 10: two late free throws that won the game for Dallas.

1546
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 10: Oklahoma City's coach said afterwards, if it was as clear

1547
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 10: as day foul in the corner there with two seconds left,

1548
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 10: obviously I would not have challenged it. I would have

1549
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 10: held on to my last time out. Instead, he challenged,

1550
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 10: lost the challenge, lost his last time out. His reasoning was, quote,

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01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 10: even if you advanced the ball after a made free

1552
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 10: throw down with two and a half seconds left, after that,

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01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 10: your chances are very low end quote.

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01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 2: Can I get a clarification on that close out stat.

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01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 2: I don't understand how that would work.

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01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 10: In other words, you're up, and this is the first

1557
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 10: time you have a chance to end the series, so you.

1558
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 2: Have to be up because I because.

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01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 11: They were down three to one to Golden State, remember,

1560
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 11: but they.

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01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, because he lost. He lost what

1562
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 2: two times in the finals included.

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01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 11: I was so like, tonight a chance their first chants

1564
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 11: to close out.

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01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is okay. Yeah for his team, Yeah, ok, that.

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Speaker 10: Makes sense for his various teams, we should say. But

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01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 10: PJ Washington two free throws with two seconds left. This

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01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 10: is a guy only had nine points, but two clutch

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01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 10: three pointers made with about four minutes left and the

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01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 10: two late free throws as well. To baseball, the San

1571
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 10: Francisco Giants lost an outfielder for the season and a

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01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 10: crash to the outfield fence this week. The guy that

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01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 10: subbed for him, Luis Mattos, has been incredible. Five RBIs

1574
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 10: last night, six more today, and robbed a potential homer

1575
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,839
Speaker 10: at the top of the fence Already. In his first

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01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 10: six games where he's had played appearances this season for

1577
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 10: the Giants, he has seventeen RBIs in those six games,

1578
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 10: and he is the youngest player in MLB history to

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01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 10: have back to back five RBI games, and runs betted

1580
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 10: in has been an official stat for over one hundred years.

1581
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 10: The Giants wound up winners at home today by a

1582
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 10: fourteen to four margin in their game against Colorado, which

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01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 10: had won seven straight until last night's loss. Matos the hero.

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01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 10: Colorado's record now fifteen and thirty on the season. Meanwhile,

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01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 10: if Cleveland gets a win tomorrow, their record will be

1586
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 10: thirty and seventeen. Cleveland Guardians were up eleven to nothing

1587
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 10: on the Twins in the ninth beat Minnesota eleven to four.

1588
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 10: Twins have lost five straight and Jose Ramirez is still good.

1589
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 10: Officially three homers this year after long at bats he

1590
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 10: kept falling off pitches and hit one out today. That's

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01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 10: three times already with ten pitches in the at bat

1592
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 10: that he's ended it with a homer.

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01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Disager. De

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Speaker 2: Saga will be with us for another hour. Aaron Tours

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01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 2: and Jason Martin taking you up till two a m.

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Speaker 2: Eastern time. We'll come back. Jmart plenty more to talk about.

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Speaker 2: We'll get back to Game six in Dallas. The Mavericks o' advance.

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Speaker 2: What does it mean for them? As we get ready

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Speaker 2: for Game seven in Denver, Minnesota tomorrow. Also preview Game

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Speaker 2: seven with New York and India as well. Plus plenty

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Speaker 2: more to hit on Scottie Scheffler, maybe a little Harrison

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Speaker 2: Butker so much left on the docket. Ertrus, Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: Chris Plank in for Bernie fratdo Bernie Fratto, I spoke

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Speaker 2: to him this week, is traveling overseas London in Paris.

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Speaker 2: I believe is where he's at. So I hope Bernie's

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Speaker 2: having a great trip and Chris Plank will be following

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Speaker 2: us one hour from now very quickly. Jason, let's uh,

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01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 2: let's get into the game of the night. Game six

1617
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 2: in Dallas, Dallas Mavericks up three to two against the

1618
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder. Dallas, of course can close out the

1619
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: game or close out the series. Excuse me with a win.

1620
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 2: Okse has a one point lead in the final seconds.

1621
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: Dallas gets the ball back and this was the big play.

1622
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,799
Speaker 7: Trapped along the left side with ten now against dort

1623
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 7: one on one, driving right, backing down, had the chair

1624
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 7: Pold spins Lewism have lost the ball, got it to Washington,

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01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 7: forces out up, put down, He got down, Hey got

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01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 7: down by Elvias Alexander with two and a half seconds.

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01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 5: To god, oh what a terrible file there, Oh my goodness.

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01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 8: Going on the floor with the foul occurred on the

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01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 8: three point shot.

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01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 4: The challenge is unsuccessful. Dallas three three pros.

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01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 2: That was I believe Dallas Mavericks Radio network and you

1632
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 2: can hear. With Oklahoma City clinging to a one point lead,

1633
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 2: Luca comes down, throws it into the corner.

1634
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 3: PJ.

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01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: Washington goes up for a three. It was challenged by

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01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder. It was ruled a foul. PJ.

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01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 2: Washington makes two of three file shots after that to

1638
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 2: give to give Dallas a one point lead. Oklahoma City

1639
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 2: misses a shot at the buzzer in the moment, it

1640
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 2: felt controversial, but Shay gil Just Alexander, who committed the foul,

1641
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 2: was asked about it after the game.

1642
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 9: Should have fouled.

1643
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 2: There's a little bit more to that answer, but I

1644
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 2: just want to Marry to play that one part because

1645
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 2: that's the only part that matters is Shay gil Just

1646
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: Alexander said it wasn't a foul. Mark Daganaut, the head coach,

1647
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 2: said he didn't regret using the challenge to see if

1648
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 2: they could get the call overturned, but ultimately Jason, the

1649
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks do advance to the Western Conference Finals. I

1650
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 2: think it was controversial, as Mary just showed us shake.

1651
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:06,919
Speaker 2: Gilles Alexander did not think it was controversial. Mavericks advance

1652
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: and they are getting set to play the winner of

1653
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 2: tomorrow night's Minnesota and Denver Game seven in Denver.

1654
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 3: It just came down to that. I mean, he played

1655
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 3: a fabulous basketball game and then right there, with two

1656
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 3: and a half seconds left, he made contact. He did

1657
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 3: catch the ball first, but he clearly caught PJ. Washington's

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01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 3: arm After that, and I say that as a thunderfan,

1659
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 3: and I liked it. He took ownership for it. After

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01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 3: the fact, he even said, I mean, I can't go

1661
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 3: back and watch it. I think he be too painful

1662
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 3: for him, is what he was saying. But you know,

1663
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 3: he said, they replayed it, they looked at it, and

1664
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 3: they still said it was a foul. So I must

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01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 3: have filed him like and he even said, you know,

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01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 3: if I could have had it back, I wouldn't have

1667
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 3: done it. I would have let him make or miss

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01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 3: the shot. And so he took ownership for it, and yeah,

1669
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 3: there's no controversy. It was kind of weird how it

1670
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 3: was handled by the broadcast team on television. But it

1671
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 3: was a series where he had a very young team

1672
01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 3: against the team with a little bit more experienced, certainly

1673
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 3: the postseason, and you had, you know, an MVP candidate,

1674
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 3: Well I actually really had too. Luca was pretty close,

1675
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 3: but Sga easily could have won the thing, and some

1676
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 3: people believe that he should have won the thing, and

1677
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 3: he certainly did nothing in this series to indicate he

1678
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 3: shouldn't have. But this is kind of how works in

1679
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 3: the NBA. A lot of times you have to take

1680
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 3: small steps. You don't go from out of the playoffs

1681
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 3: to the NBA Finals. It doesn't work that way. You

1682
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 3: usually have to step up. You get into the playoffs

1683
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 3: and you go a little bit deeper, and you get

1684
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 3: a little bit deeper, and you get a little bit deeper,

1685
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 3: and it kind of works that way. And that's that's

1686
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 3: what you saw here. I felt like watching the series

1687
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 3: after Game one, generally Dallas just was a little bit

1688
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 3: tougher and a little bit more trustworthy. And I think

1689
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 3: Kyrieve is a major difference maker for them. And we

1690
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 3: already had Armeya Kopa, but Kyrie Irving was a good

1691
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 3: move for the MAVs and has been nothing short of

1692
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 3: a positive influence. Now think about that now, Kevin Durant out,

1693
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 3: James Harden, out Lebron James out, Kyrie Irving. In well,

1694
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving has caused zero problem, zero rift. He said

1695
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 3: zero things. I think all season that we're dumb, like

1696
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 3: he's just gone out and played basketball and been exactly

1697
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 3: what you would hope he would be when you signed him.

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01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 2: Well, and I think the other difference is now, I

1699
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 2: think you can argue that Kevin Durant probably is still

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01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 2: the Star of the Phoenix Suns. You know, Lebron, I

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01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 2: don't think has kind of fully accepted I'm thirty nine

1702
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 2: years old. I can't carry a team on any given night.

1703
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: It's everybody else's fault when we lose, and James Harden

1704
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,839
Speaker 2: is just James Harden. But part of it with Kyrie,

1705
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: I think he accepts that, like, hey, this is Lucas team.

1706
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 2: He was here before me, He's gonna be here after me.

1707
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 2: But I can come in. And it sounds weird for

1708
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 2: a guy who's as talented as Kyrie Irving. But he's

1709
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 2: a role player. Now, He's a role player that might

1710
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 2: get you twenty one, five thirty five on any given night,

1711
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 2: but he has he has accepted the role that has

1712
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 2: been presented to him. And by the way, even as

1713
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 2: a quote unquote role player, you can have the ball

1714
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 2: in your hands with the game on the line, making plays.

1715
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 2: But I think that's the other thing that stands out

1716
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 2: to Jason is that he has accepted, Hey, I'm in

1717
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 2: a new era, a new uh yeah era of my career.

1718
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 2: By the way, you know, I think, listen, why did

1719
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: it blow up in Cleveland? Because I don't think he

1720
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 2: was comfortable being the number two guy with with Lebron James,

1721
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 2: and so I think that's part of it as well.

1722
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 2: Is hasn't caused any problems on the court, off the court,

1723
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,799
Speaker 2: on the quart or off the court. On the court,

1724
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 2: he's still really, really, really good, but it seems like

1725
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 2: he accepts that, like, hey, this is kind of Lucas team.

1726
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 2: He's gonna be the the face on the marquee, but

1727
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 2: I can have a very important role in what we're

1728
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 2: doing as well.

1729
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's right, and you know,

1730
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 3: being able to accept that makes it makes a big

1731
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 3: time difference for a player that's been in the league

1732
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 3: for a while to accept a secondary role, And it

1733
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 3: could be tough for somebody that feels like they should

1734
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 3: have been on Alpha their entire career and has seen

1735
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 3: this happen before, maybe when they really felt like they

1736
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 3: were still in their prime, to accept that responsibility and

1737
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 3: be that guy. And Kyrie would not have been my

1738
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 3: first choice for who would have been able to make

1739
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 3: that kind of mental switch. And credit to him, because

1740
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 3: Luca is a star and Kyrie never acts like the star.

1741
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 3: Kyrie just goes in there and does the dirty work.

1742
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 3: You think about it, this way. I think another guy

1743
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 3: that did this exceptionally well was Dwayne Wade. Yeah, because

1744
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,719
Speaker 3: when Lebron got there, I mean, it was still Wades,

1745
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 3: it was Wade's team, but once Lebron got there, it

1746
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 3: was all about Lebron James. That was one that was

1747
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 3: being talked about the most. Wade just went out and

1748
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 3: played out standing basketball like all the time and showed

1749
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 3: leadership qualities and showed maturity out there and arguably was

1750
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 3: just as instrumental for what was happening. I don't know

1751
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 3: that you would make the same argument for Kyrie in

1752
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 3: terms of that latter point, but I think the former point,

1753
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 3: there's something there that I do feel like he has

1754
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 3: been fine to be the robin to the batman. He's

1755
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 3: been fine being the sidekick, but he's still an all

1756
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 3: star level player, and he does seem to be actually

1757
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 3: enjoying himself and almost looks happy. Like after the games,

1758
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 3: they're smiling doing postgame interviews with ESPN. He's got headphone,

1759
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 3: Michael headset microphone on it. I'm like, this is same

1760
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving, Like this is the most malecontented guy I

1761
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 3: had seen, and you know, good for him, Like it's

1762
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 3: good to see this guy like this, because this Kyrie

1763
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 3: Irving is an incredible watch on the basketball floor and

1764
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 3: him not giving you any reason to do anything but

1765
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 3: marvel at what he's able to do on the floor,

1766
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 3: that's a net positive big time for the NBA.

1767
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 2: We'll make our Game seven and Sunday predictions in the

1768
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 2: final segment of the show. But obviously, you know, whoever

1769
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 2: wins that Game seven, whether it's Minnesota or Denver, both

1770
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 2: will have either I should say we'll have home court

1771
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 2: advantage against the Dallas Mavericks and Dallas you know, we'll

1772
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 2: have obviously a little bit of extra rest. Two questions, One,

1773
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 2: do you think that the Mavericks should prefer or do

1774
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 2: prefer one? And do you think they match up better

1775
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 2: with one than the other? Maybe that's the same question,

1776
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 2: I guess, But because I look at what happened tonight,

1777
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 2: it's a great story in the moment, we could appreciate it.

1778
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 2: I think both those two teams that they'll face in

1779
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 2: the next round, either of those two teams is going

1780
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 2: to be a tough matchup for them. What do you

1781
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 2: think about that, James?

1782
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do, I absolutely do. I mean, I think

1783
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 3: maybe this is this is probably about as far as

1784
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 3: they'll go. I think Denver is deeper, and I'm not

1785
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 3: sure what they do against Jokic in particular. On the inside,

1786
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 3: I just don't I don't love that for them, And

1787
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 3: then you look at the other side, there's just size

1788
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 3: everywhere for Minnesota and if there's anybody right now that's

1789
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 3: on a completely different level outside of Yokachu, I mean,

1790
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 3: what he's done's been extraordinary in the series, but this

1791
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 3: has been Edwards postseason. This has been the coming out

1792
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 3: party for Anthony Edwards, for anyone who had not been

1793
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 3: paying attention already and didn't realize what he was capable

1794
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 3: of and what he was already doing for the tee

1795
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 3: Wolves in the regular season. If they get there, wouldn't

1796
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 3: surprise me at all. If he wills them into the finals,

1797
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 3: if they again, if they play with his heart, if

1798
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 3: he's the pulse of the team, I don't think Dallas

1799
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 3: can beat them if it wish, If it goes fluctuating

1800
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:51,719
Speaker 3: between Edwards and Anthony Towns, as it has in this series,

1801
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 3: then I could see Dallas getting him because Dallas can

1802
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 3: be really dangerous, and they have a couple guys who

1803
01:30:57,439 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 3: flat out can get buckets for them at all times.

1804
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 3: But I tend to think whoever wins Game seven between

1805
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 3: Minnesota and Denver is going to the finals.

1806
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm gonna throw a total curveball at

1807
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 2: you that has nothing to do with that game. So

1808
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 2: you and I have kind of been on the like,

1809
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 2: you know, it's gonna be so obvious that media entities

1810
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 2: will push Caitlyn Clark on down our throats. We talked

1811
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 2: about WNBA last hour on Sports Center. They just showed

1812
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 2: a graphic only two players in WNBA history with fifty points,

1813
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 2: fifteen assists, and ten rebounds in their first two games. Yeah,

1814
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark and Kandas Parker. Yeah, it's like, universally we

1815
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 2: all know that Kitlyn Clark hasn't been played very well.

1816
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 2: It's like, what are we even doing.

1817
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1818
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:46,719
Speaker 2: I just saw it out of the court of my eye.

1819
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 3: I don't see it right now too. I Mean, the

1820
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 3: thing is like that that's a great stat for an

1821
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 3: zero to three basketball team. Like it's it's again, They're

1822
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 3: they're gonna make everything a story. Like if you want

1823
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 3: a reason to dislike Clark, They're gonna give you one,

1824
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 3: because they're not gonna stop feeding you this information because

1825
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 3: this is the only thing that's going to keep you

1826
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 3: paying attention to news about that leak. That's just the

1827
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 3: way it is.

1828
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you want a reason not to like her,

1829
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 2: it's because, hey, it's okay to actually criticize her as well.

1830
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 2: She's struggling. That's fine. It's not the end of the world,

1831
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 2: but it is the end of the series in Dallas. Yeah,

1832
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,879
Speaker 2: cape full circle on that one. As the Dallas Mavericks

1833
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 2: beat the Oklahoma City Thunder, they will face the winner

1834
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 2: of tomorrow or Sunday's Game seven between Denver and Minnesota.

1835
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,120
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1836
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1838
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Speaker 2: visit Safety Runs First dot Com. That Safety Runs First

1841
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Speaker 2: dot Com. Coming up Sunday isn't only about Game sevens

1842
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 2: in the NBA, but of course obviously a champion will

1843
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 2: be crowned at the PGA Champion and Boy Oh boy,

1844
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 2: what a week it's been at Valhalla. We'll talk a

1845
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 2: little bit about Scottie Scheffler and maybe a little bit

1846
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 2: about Harrison Bucker as well, two very intriguing stories from

1847
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 2: this week. This is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody.

1848
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Errator's Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

1849
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:25,759
Speaker 2: tire rack dot Com studios. As we mentioned before the break,

1850
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 2: in addition to two game seven's in the NBA, on Sunday,

1851
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 2: w'at's get the final round with the PGA Championship at

1852
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 2: the Valhalla Golf Course in Louisville, Valhallo Golf Club. Excuse me.

1853
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 2: Colin Moorekamma and Xander Schaffley tied at fifteen under par.

1854
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 2: They will tee off at two thirty Eastern time. Jaymart

1855
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 2: that's not really the story that uh, most people are

1856
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 2: focused on Colrond of Yeah.

1857
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1858
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 3: I will say man Schoffley has been really good this week.

1859
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 3: And I've told you before on this show that when

1860
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 3: Colin Morikawa is firing, there may be almost nobody better

1861
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 3: like he can be absolutely frightening. I don't think he's

1862
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 3: ever had or shared the lead after the third round

1863
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 3: of a major, so this is a it's kind of

1864
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 3: an unfamiliar place for him to be up top, even

1865
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 3: though he's ended up at top. Uh, he's he's that's a.

1866
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 3: That's a great final pairing, just gonna have out there.

1867
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 3: From a golf standpoint, I was gonna ask it feels

1868
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 3: like there's a lot of big names on the leader board.

1869
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 3: Shane Lowry two shots off lead, Victor Hoblin two shots

1870
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 3: off the lead, Bryson d.

1871
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 2: Chambeau two shots off lead. Anything from the golf perspective

1872
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: before we get to the police blotter perspective that stands

1873
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 2: out to you about this week.

1874
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 3: No other than I mean, you know, Tiger was feeling

1875
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 3: good coming in and I saw this story and I said, man,

1876
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 3: don't do this. I know, like I saw the story

1877
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 3: and I just immediately thought, it's it's it's not it's

1878
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 3: not gonna happen. And he ends up having a horrible

1879
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 3: finish and you know, one of the worst rounds he's

1880
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 3: ever played, and like, it's it's hard at this point

1881
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 3: because I know it's still so much fun to watch him,

1882
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 3: but it's just not what it once was. And you

1883
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:11,520
Speaker 3: hate seeing it, you hate feeling this way and that's unfortunate,

1884
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 3: So that would be my only other real takeaway.

1885
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, listen, I it it feels just like exhausting.

1886
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 2: I'm not a golf fan, so it doesn't really bother me,

1887
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 2: but like it's so obvious that he's really just physically

1888
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:29,759
Speaker 2: not built to compete at the highest level for seventy

1889
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 2: two holes, and I still find it like amazing of like,

1890
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 2: like you said, like these headlines and well, you know,

1891
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 2: Tiger's feeling good and ty and it's just like it's

1892
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 2: we had our moment at the Masters a few years ago.

1893
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 2: Even that was what twenty nineteen, that was five years ago.

1894
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 2: That was before the car crash. Like it's just not

1895
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 2: gonna happen anyway. Let's really quickly switch gears because I

1896
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 2: do want to talk Harrison Butker on the other end.

1897
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 2: But Sky's Cheffer stuff was wild man. So I mean, me,

1898
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 2: being on the West Coast, I will up to the news.

1899
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 2: I actually woke up to the the booking had already happened,

1900
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 2: the mug shot was already out, and then it was

1901
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 2: obviously a huge catchup for me from there. I think

1902
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 2: everybody knows the details by now. But really, unfortunately you know,

1903
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 2: there was a tragic accident first thing in the morning,

1904
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 2: about five am Eastern time. One of the shuttle buses

1905
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 2: tragically actually hit somebody and killed somebody. So because of it,

1906
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 2: there was additional police presence. It was slow to get

1907
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 2: into the course. Scotty Scheffler had an early tea time.

1908
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 2: He tries to kind of drive around a barricade or whatever,

1909
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 2: drives onto a curb. A cop is not happy with

1910
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 2: that cop when he tries to pull away, jumps on

1911
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 2: the car and Scotty Scheffler's arrested and he said after

1912
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:45,480
Speaker 2: it was a misunderstanding. He apologized, he thanked law enforcement,

1913
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 2: but just some quick thoughts from you, Jason before he

1914
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 2: gets it to Sack.

1915
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 3: The whole thing was a mess. It's really unfortunate. Obviously,

1916
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 3: what gets lost in this is somebody lost their life,

1917
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 3: and of course we're you know, we're talking about the

1918
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 3: end where ultimately, you know, no one lost a life

1919
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 3: that was involved in the actual altercation here. I don't know,

1920
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 3: like you know, you saw what Scheffler's attorney said, which is,

1921
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 3: you know, he was told this is how he needed

1922
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 3: to enter the golf club. He was attempting to do

1923
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 3: that there was a misunderstanding. What I don't like is,

1924
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 3: you know, he drove you know, the equivalent of about

1925
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 3: thirty feet something like that, and he's got a dude

1926
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 3: jumping on the car and dragging him out. He's the

1927
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 3: attorney say, he's trying to roll down his window to ask,

1928
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 3: you know, to talk to the guy, and the guy

1929
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 3: like pulled him out and throw him against the thing,

1930
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 3: and you know, all of these things are happening. It

1931
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 3: seems like on its face that the officer here got

1932
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 3: a little over his skis, maybe got a little aggressive,

1933
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 3: a little excited in the moment, lost his head a

1934
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 3: little bit. And at the same time what Scheffler was doing.

1935
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 3: Because I wasn't there, I don't know, like I know

1936
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 3: that yesterday I guess, well, I guess it would have

1937
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,600
Speaker 3: been Friday, our guy Dan Bayer, who we really like,

1938
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 3: you know, he said, this was clearly Scheffler's fault. When

1939
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 3: a police officer says something, you do it this is well,

1940
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:10,759
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I don't know if Scheffler understood

1941
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 3: what he was being asked to do. I just feel

1942
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 3: like this whole thing was the part of it that

1943
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 3: really concerned me or bothered me about it was that

1944
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 3: there were other golfers who said they did exactly what

1945
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 3: Scheffler was trying to do to get into the golf

1946
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 3: course and nothing happened. So, and I don't know if

1947
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 3: they communicated it said well, Scotty, this is how we

1948
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 3: got in or whatever. There's a lot that we don't know,

1949
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 3: and there's not bodycm footage we know that, and you

1950
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 3: know all of those kinds of things. I just think

1951
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 3: it's a really unfortunate, gigantic misunderstanding where things like this

1952
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 3: can just happen and you don't I just don't want

1953
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 3: to rush to blame either side, but I don't think,

1954
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 3: like Dan saying it was clearly Scotty's fault, I'm not

1955
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 3: willing to go there at all because I just think

1956
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:04,799
Speaker 3: there's there's way too much unknown about this. My first

1957
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:09,720
Speaker 3: inclination was this officer went a little bit further than necessary,

1958
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 3: got a little bit just got a little bit excited

1959
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 3: in the moment, and kind of made a judgment call

1960
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 3: that was a little bit more than he should have.

1961
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 3: That was just my initial thought. I was also kind

1962
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 3: of blown away that, well, you know what, I wasn't

1963
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised Scheffler got back out there and played well,

1964
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 3: A little surprised that he came back out today and

1965
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 3: did what he did. But when you really think about it,

1966
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 3: there was no there was a lot of adrenaline going yesterday.

1967
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 3: There was nothing today, or there was nothing on Saturday.

1968
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 3: And as such, I think he just kind of went

1969
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 3: out and make that had to take some kind of

1970
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 3: a toll undamentally, Like even if he goes out there

1971
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 3: with the adrenaline, he goes off the course last night,

1972
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 3: what was that like? Like just thinking about the day

1973
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 3: that he had just had and everything else, and then

1974
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 3: it coming apart for him on two three and four today.

1975
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:57,679
Speaker 3: Maybe we should have seen that coming.

1976
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I think think really quickly, that's all.

1977
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 2: My takeaway is kind of the same as yours is.

1978
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 2: I think the officer probably over probably almost certainly overreacted

1979
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 2: a little bit. I find it hard to believe that

1980
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 2: Scotty Scheffler did something that you know that that every

1981
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 2: other uh, you know, golfer was able to get in

1982
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 2: without problems, and Scotty Scheffler did. I just wonder if

1983
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 2: there was some sort of something that that maybe he

1984
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 2: escalated the situation as well. I'll also say this. I thought,

1985
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 2: you know, our buddy Colin Cowhard I was listening to

1986
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 2: him yesterday, brought up a great point. It's like, you know,

1987
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 2: like it is kind of wild that, like, you know,

1988
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 2: every golfer is just driving their own rental car in

1989
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 2: and and you know, I mean it's besides and by

1990
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,679
Speaker 2: the way, I should also reference too, like and I'm

1991
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 2: not being facetious when I say this, like somebody just

1992
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 2: died on the scene, like it was a heightened moment

1993
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,879
Speaker 2: of tension for everybody. Scotty Schefler obviously has no idea.

1994
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 2: He's probably fired up because he just wanted to fired

1995
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 2: up from the perspective, wants to get to the course.

1996
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna be late for my tea time.

1997
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 2: Am I gonna be out of my routine? But I

1998
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 2: also understood, like I'm not, you know, and we're gonna

1999
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not defending police, you know, over policing.

2000
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 2: But it's like it was clearly a hostile moment in time.

2001
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 2: It's pitch blackout, nobody knows what's going on, and I

2002
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 2: you know, but Coward brought up the point of, like,

2003
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 2: you know, how is it that you know football teams.

2004
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:27,719
Speaker 2: You know, not only do football teams of a police escort,

2005
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 2: but the media who covers the games, like you know,

2006
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 2: Joe Buck and Troy Aikman get a police escort to

2007
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 2: the games. But you know, the number one player in

2008
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 2: the world is driving in like everybody else is and

2009
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 2: so but.

2010
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:40,719
Speaker 3: Not everybody does that. That's the thing that was weird,

2011
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 3: like what Colin says, right, But like one of the

2012
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 3: points that was being made was that the golfers that

2013
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 3: were going in that were waved in. There were guys

2014
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 3: that did exactly what Scotty did, but they had some

2015
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 3: kind of marking on their car where the vehicle that

2016
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 3: they were in had something that indicated who they were

2017
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 3: as to it just being their personal vehicle. Like I

2018
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 3: don't know if it was provided by a sponsor or,

2019
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 3: if it was something, but it was something on the

2020
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 3: car itself that made it obvious where they were going

2021
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 3: and who they were. And from the report, they were

2022
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 3: waved right through. And so Scotty comes through, but he

2023
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 3: doesn't have that marketing because I guess he's just driving

2024
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 3: his own vehicle or driving a rental or something like that,

2025
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 3: and he doesn't get that same treatment and then this

2026
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 3: incident happens. That's what I saw where I was just

2027
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 3: kind of like, well, seems like everybody should be driving

2028
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:38,559
Speaker 3: a car that indicates who they are in that spot

2029
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 3: because he is a professional golfer going to a professional

2030
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 3: golf event. He's actually the number one golfer in the world.

2031
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, it seems like the other

2032
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 3: guys that were already there or that it got through

2033
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 3: this police situation being in a car. It just seems

2034
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 3: like Scotty should have been in a car exactly like that,

2035
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 3: like that that seems like it should be kind of

2036
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 3: versely applied. So that's similar to Collins point, except that

2037
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 3: there were some that had some kind of a vehicle

2038
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:07,799
Speaker 3: like that and they got through this without a problem.

2039
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 2: Interesting scenario over there at Valhalla again, Colin more Kama

2040
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:15,639
Speaker 2: and Xander Schaffley with the lead going into the final round.

2041
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Aeron Tors Jason Martin taking you up

2042
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 2: till two a m. Eastern time. I will come back.

2043
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 2: We'll talk about certainly another interesting topic that developed over

2044
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 2: the course of the last week before you do tho.

2045
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 2: Let's get over the desk final time this evening to

2046
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 2: Sega what is trend and.

2047
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 10: Shaft against Morikawa at San Diego State against cal Did

2048
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 10: you see the UC regents vote here with UCLA leaving

2049
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 10: the U well, leaving the PAC twelve and leaving the

2050
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 10: UC system high and drive not having packed twelve anymore.

2051
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 10: They actually are demanding the UCLA pay cal ten million

2052
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 10: a year for the next three years. The headline is

2053
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 10: UCLA ordered to pay calimony.

2054
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 3: Oh God, that's worse than you thought it was. By

2055
01:43:59,280 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 3: the way.

2056
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 10: Number one, Scottie Scheffler shot seventy three today and fell

2057
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 10: eight shots behind at the PGA, And you mentioned Tiger

2058
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 10: Woods not golfing this weekend, nowhere close to the cut

2059
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 10: line at seven over par. Perhaps time to add him

2060
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,520
Speaker 10: to the list. And it's a long list of superstar

2061
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 10: athletes over the years who just should have stopped playing

2062
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,639
Speaker 10: Babe Ruth at the end or Pete Rose. Their most

2063
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 10: famously Willie Mays, who was one of the greats of

2064
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 10: all time and betted two to eleven his final year

2065
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 10: and stumbled through the World Series. Xanderschoffley and Morikawa tied

2066
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 10: for the lead at the PGA, up.

2067
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 11: By one stroke. In Louisville.

2068
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 10: Shane Lowry has two shots back after a third round

2069
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 10: sixty two. A reminder, NASCAR's All Star Race is Sunday

2070
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 10: night on FS one eight pm Eastern time. Today's heats

2071
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 10: were canceled due to rain. Joey Logano earned the poll

2072
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 10: for Sunday. The rest of today's Truck Series event was

2073
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 10: postponed to Tomorrow morning on FS one. Boxing has not

2074
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 10: had an undisputed heavyweight champ since Lennox Lewis in nineteen

2075
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 10: ninety nine.

2076
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:57,720
Speaker 11: They have one now.

2077
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 10: It's Alexander Usik, who suffered a broke jaw but did

2078
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 10: win a split decision in Saudi Arabia over Tyson Fury,

2079
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 10: who had been undefeated. Usik, who lives in Ukraine, is

2080
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 10: twenty two and oh he knocked down Fury in the

2081
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,759
Speaker 10: ninth round. A rematch is planned for the same place

2082
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 10: RhoD in October. Sees the Gray won the Preakness, leading

2083
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 10: wire to wire on a money track in Baltimore despite

2084
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 10: nine to one odds in this field of eight. Derby

2085
01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 10: winner Misstic Dan finished second. The Belmont Stakes will be

2086
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 10: June eighth at Saratoga Race Course north of Albany, New York,

2087
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 10: due to construction at Belmont and the Preakness in a

2088
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,720
Speaker 10: couple of years will not be at Pimlico. Also due

2089
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 10: to construction to the NBA Playoffs, the Dallas Mavericks eliminated

2090
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:39,599
Speaker 10: the top seed in the West Oklahoma City, winning Game

2091
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 10: six in a comeback Tonight one seventeen one sixteen on

2092
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 10: two free throws with two seconds left by PJ. Washington

2093
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 10: Luka Donsich with another triple double. Ap points out that

2094
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:52,679
Speaker 10: Dallas decided to tank at the end of last season

2095
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 10: to try to preserve a draft choice, even when they

2096
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:58,839
Speaker 10: had a mathematical chance to make the play in tournament

2097
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 10: a year ago. The draft choice turned out to be

2098
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 10: Derek Lively, who had fifteen points off the bench, and

2099
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 10: by the way, that was a pick acquired from the

2100
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 10: Thunder in the first round.

2101
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:12,879
Speaker 11: So there were other teams like Utah or Washington drafting

2102
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 11: ahead who did not take Lively, who wound up having

2103
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 11: although he didn't play every game, certainly wound up having

2104
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 11: a very good rookie year, thank you, at nine points

2105
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 11: and seven rebounds per game. So Sunday afternoon, Indiana at

2106
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 11: New York at Game seven. Denver Sunday Night hosts a

2107
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 11: Game seven against Minnesota in the NHL Playoffs, Edmonton beat

2108
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 11: up Vancouver five to one. A Game seven of that

2109
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 11: second round series is at Vancouver on Monday. The team

2110
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 11: USA hockey coach for the twenty twenty six Olympics will

2111
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 11: be Mike Sullivan of the Penguins. Mark Wells, from the

2112
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 11: nineteen eighty US Olympic Hockey team, died Friday at the

2113
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 11: age of sixty seven. It was announced today. He was

2114
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 11: from Detroit. He had two goals and an assist at

2115
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 11: Lake Placid in twenty ten. Wells had medical issues and

2116
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 11: had to sell his gold medal to Major League Baseball.

2117
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 11: The Yankees won their six straight. Phillies won again a

2118
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 11: ten inning victory ten inning win for Miami as well.

2119
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 11: Cubs won nothing over Pittsburgh with a run in the

2120
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 11: bottom of the ninth. Cleveland won again. Kansas City sent

2121
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 11: Oakland to a seventh straight loss. Milwaukee won four to

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Speaker 11: two at Houston, beating Justin Verlander. That ends Houston's six

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Speaker 11: game winning streak. Texas had the game on Fox TV

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Speaker 11: tonight and beat the Angels three two and thirteen innings

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Speaker 11: on a basis loaded hit batter. Seattle won at Baltimore

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Speaker 11: four to three on FS one there's a three hour

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Speaker 11: rain delay at the start of that one. San Diego

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Speaker 11: at Atlanta rained out doubleheader On Monday. Saint Louis with

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Speaker 11: five runs bottom of the eighth beat Boston seven to two.

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Speaker 11: Detroit and pitcher Jack Flaherty won at Arizona eight to three.

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Speaker 11: The Dodgers and pitcher Walker Buehler won four nothing over Cincinnati.

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Speaker 11: Bueller with six scoreless innings seven strikeouts. It's his first

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Speaker 11: major league win in two years. Ti Oscar Hernandez of

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Speaker 11: LA with an RBI single. He has thirty seven runs

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Speaker 11: batted in, tied for third in the major leagues and

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Speaker 11: finally in the UFL. Another win for the Birmingham Stallions

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Speaker 11: thirty five twenty eight over the Houston Roughnecks is Adrian

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Speaker 11: Martinez had three touchdown passes two touchdown runs. Attendance ten thousand.

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Speaker 11: There's a game on Fox TV tomorrow from the Alamodome,

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Speaker 11: San Antonio against Arlington. By the way, those Birmingham Stallions

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Speaker 11: seven and oh there will be in the conference final

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Speaker 11: next month.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve de Sager,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday or Sunday, depending on

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Speaker 2: where you are. Eric Towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the tyreck dot Com studios to segers Off for the evening.

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Speaker 2: He will be back tomorrow on Sunday. Chris Plank following

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Speaker 2: us at the top of the hour. Tell you what, Jason,

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Speaker 2: let's let's come back, and I do want to talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit about that Harrison Bucker News of the Week.

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Speaker 2: We'll make our predictions for Game seven in New York

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Speaker 2: and Denver. That's all next. One segment left Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Towards Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tiraq dot Com studios. One segment left,

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Speaker 2: sen more minutes. Then we are tossing over to Chris Plank.

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Speaker 2: Chris Blank in for Bernie Fratto. Chris Plank on from

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Speaker 2: two to six am Eastern, getting you ready for what's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a crazy Sunday in both golf and the

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Speaker 2: NBA two game sevens. We will give our preview and

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Speaker 2: predictions for both of those.

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Speaker 3: Jason.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to it, though, you know, I've been

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Speaker 2: saving this because I you know, I want to make

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Speaker 2: sure we have enough time to really dive into this.

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Speaker 2: But I actually just heard Covino and Rich talking about

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Speaker 2: this during the break. I don't know if all the

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Speaker 2: audience heard the uh heard the conversation. But Harrison Bucker

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Speaker 2: Kicker for the for the Kansas City Chiefs, was a

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Speaker 2: commencement speaker at a religious college earlier. I guess it

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Speaker 2: was last weekend, and you know, he made quite a

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Speaker 2: few headlines for some of the things that he said

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Speaker 2: in that speech. We obviously don't have time to play

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Speaker 2: all of it, but I do want to play the

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Speaker 2: part that certainly caught a lot of people's attention. Here

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Speaker 2: is part of Harrison Butker's commencement speech that he just

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Speaker 2: days ago.

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Speaker 12: I think it is you, the women who have had

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Speaker 12: the most diabolical lies told to you. How many of

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Speaker 12: you are sitting here now about to cross this stage

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Speaker 12: and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you

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Speaker 12: are going to get in your career. Some of you

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Speaker 12: may go on to lead successful careers in the world,

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Speaker 12: but I would venture to guess that the majority of

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Speaker 12: you are most excited about your marriage and the children

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Speaker 12: you will bring into this world. I'm on this stage

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Speaker 12: today and able to be the man I am because

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Speaker 12: I have a wife who leans into her location and

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Speaker 12: embrace one of the most important titles of all Holemaker

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Speaker 12: wouldn't be met with anger, but instead met with excitement

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Speaker 12: and pride, not the deadly sin sort of pride that

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Speaker 12: has an entire month dedicated to it. Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia,

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Speaker 12: as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values

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Speaker 12: in media, all stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.

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Speaker 2: That was Harrison Bucker. It is worth noting, by the way, Jason,

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Speaker 2: he was speaking at Benedictine College, which is a Catholic

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Speaker 2: liberal arts school. So you know, I think whether you

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Speaker 2: agree with what he said or not, and we'll get

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Speaker 2: to your opinion and certainly mine as well here in

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Speaker 2: a minute. It is worth noting, like and I was

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Speaker 2: talking to producer Ian and Mary Mack a minute ago

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Speaker 2: about this, Like, he wasn't speaking at Warton School of Business,

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Speaker 2: he wasn't speaking at Yale Law Schools graduation. You know,

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01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:29,560
Speaker 2: the context matters, But I'm curious for your thoughts on

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01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 2: the speech as a whole. And I'll just mention one

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01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 2: other thing as well, is that we can't get to

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Speaker 2: all of it. There's a lot of it. I also

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Speaker 2: listen to a clip today where he talks a lot about,

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Speaker 2: you know, what he deems to be important male roles,

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Speaker 2: which are providing for a family, making sure that you're

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Speaker 2: a present father. You know that the single parent household

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01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:55,839
Speaker 2: epidemic in America is something holding back our society in general.

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Speaker 2: So I want to make it clear that it wasn't

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Speaker 2: just opinions on the role that he believes that women

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Speaker 2: should pursue, but also men as well.

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Speaker 3: Jason, I hate this because nothing Harrison Butker said was wrong,

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Speaker 3: whether you agree with it or not. And there most

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Speaker 3: of the people aren't saying you shouldn't have a right

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Speaker 3: say it. I get that. And if you want to,

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Speaker 3: then criticize what he says, and you have every right

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Speaker 3: to do that, because there's no test of free speech

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01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 3: until it's something you disagree with. If you believe it

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Speaker 3: should be shut down simply because it's not what you

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Speaker 3: what you think is right, then you don't really believe

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Speaker 3: in free speech. You can abhor what's being said but

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Speaker 3: still defend the right of whoever's saying it to say it.

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Speaker 3: But in this case, Harrison Butker is speaking from a

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Speaker 3: traditional Catholic perspective. Now, I'm an Evangelical Protestant, and full disclosure.

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Speaker 3: I am enrolled currently at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary and

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01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 3: am working towards ministry, and actually just preached at a

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Speaker 3: church for the first time six days ago, and so

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Speaker 3: I listened to what he said and I thought, wow,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like we should be standing up

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Speaker 3: and applauding this, because he's not saying don't go for

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Speaker 3: a career. He's saying that being a mother and being

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Speaker 3: a wife is arguably the most important thing that you

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Speaker 3: could do. It's the most important vocation that you could have.

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Speaker 3: There's no real higher calling that you could have than

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Speaker 3: being a wife and mother and by the way, being

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Speaker 3: a father and husband. Yep as well. I think that

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Speaker 3: some of the nuance gets lost because you immediately want

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Speaker 3: to attach something to this, as you know, this is

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Speaker 3: the patriarchy or this is all this. This was not

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01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:56,800
Speaker 3: a hateful commentary, nor was it a stay in the

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Speaker 3: kitchen commentary or anything to that degree. This was basic,

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Speaker 3: longtime traditional Catholic doctrine, which he believes in staunchly. He

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Speaker 3: was speaking to Catholic to people at a Catholic university,

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Speaker 3: a very Catholic university. And the other thing that I

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Speaker 3: think has been lost here. And this isn't just the

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Speaker 3: Butcker side of it. We have seen all sorts of

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Speaker 3: outrageous stuff said in commencement addresses by people that because

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Speaker 3: it's like, well why do you why do you have

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Speaker 3: a kicker at your commencement address? Well, why do you

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Speaker 3: have Jerry Seinfeld or anybody else? Like Seinfeld got booed

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Speaker 3: because of the whole situation with Israel and Palestine and

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Speaker 3: all this, Like there's all these kinds of things. But

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Speaker 3: there've been politicians, there've been Hollywood celebrities, there've been professional athletes,

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Speaker 3: and they all like it was why is he saying

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Speaker 3: this in the middle of a commencement d dress when

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Speaker 3: we're supposed to be talking about the future? Well, okay,

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Speaker 3: pot kettle, because this happens all the time. And what

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Speaker 3: he was doing was speaking to the faith of the

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Speaker 3: people that he was actually speaking to. He's speaking on

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Speaker 3: behalf of the faith that's behind that university. He's speaking

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Speaker 3: behind his own faith, and he was basically suggesting he

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Speaker 3: couldn't have achieved what he's been able to achieve without

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Speaker 3: the support of his wife and what she's been able

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Speaker 3: to do and how she's been able to take care

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Speaker 3: of the home, and he teared up talking about it.

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Speaker 3: He's not trying to bury women. I think there's a

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Speaker 3: lot that gets lost in this because you want to

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Speaker 3: immediately knee jerk this and not realize that he's just

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Speaker 3: speaking from a traditional masculine point of view. No, there's

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Speaker 3: nothing toxic about this. I hated this because he's getting

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Speaker 3: pilloried because people want to find some reason why this

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Speaker 3: is wrong when it really is.

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Speaker 2: Not well And you know first first of all, And

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Speaker 2: I hate, like, I hate even saying this on air,

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Speaker 2: because our job is to have opinions on everything. I

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Speaker 2: just find it very hard to get worked up about

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Speaker 2: any thing anyone says, because everyone is entitled to their opinions.

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Speaker 2: Everyone has different backgrounds, and the background that you have,

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Speaker 2: you know, indicates the opinion that you're going to have.

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Speaker 2: And so did I agree with every single word that

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Speaker 2: he said?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Probably not, But I don't. By the way, I don't

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Speaker 2: agree with everything every single word my wife says. My

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Speaker 2: wife certainly doesn't agree with every single word that I say.

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Speaker 2: But I've never once told her you're not allowed to

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Speaker 2: say that. She certainly never told me you're not allowed

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Speaker 2: to say that, and I think that's one my problem

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Speaker 2: is the idea that because you say, because somebody I

2293
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 2: guess that's just my fundamental issue with all of this

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Speaker 2: is and this is not just a Harrison Bucker thing.

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01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 2: It's the idea that because somebody says something that you

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Speaker 2: disagree with, that they're not entitled to speak ever again.

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Speaker 2: And I just don't like that. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: everyone's entitled to their opinion. I don't have to listen

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Speaker 2: to an opinion I disagree with. I don't have to

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Speaker 2: agree with opinion I disagree with. And now, as far

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Speaker 2: as this one's concerned, like you said, I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of people took a lot of liberties to twist

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Speaker 2: things into ways that they wanted to hear. All I

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Speaker 2: heard was and listen, and I heard Covino and Rich

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Speaker 2: talking about this during the break is. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it was necessarily presented in a perfect tone, but I

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Speaker 2: think the message was pretty clear. It's the message was

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Speaker 2: what you said, Jason. I did not hear women should not.

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Speaker 3: Be in the workplace.

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Speaker 2: I did not hear women are incapable of doing any job.

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01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 2: All I heard was that, hey, you know, you know,

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01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 2: don't let society tell you that being a mother isn't

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01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 2: a very isn't a very important, if not the most

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Speaker 2: important role. Being a wife is the most important role,

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01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 2: you know. So it bothered me the reception to it.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, I would encourage everybody, we don't

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Speaker 2: do this in society now, but to go and listen

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01:57:57,360 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 2: to the entire speech because in the entire speech, again,

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01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 2: he talks a lot about the He talks a lot

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Speaker 2: about the idea of about the idea of of of

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Speaker 2: masculine roles and being there as a husband and a

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Speaker 2: father as well. By the way, producer producer Ian just

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Speaker 2: sent us that there is a petition to have Harrison Bucker.

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Speaker 3: Kicked off the Chiefs absolutely two.

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Speaker 2: Hundred thousand signatures. Well guess what, I'll tell you what

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Speaker 2: where was the petition when they drafted Tyreek Hill who

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01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 2: choked and kicked his pregnant wife. I don't remember the

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Speaker 2: petition for that one.

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Speaker 3: Jason to you, Yeah, well, look, Harrison Bucker was also

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Speaker 3: the second most efficient kicker in the league, I know,

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Speaker 3: so he's not going to be released. I It's just

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Speaker 3: it's crazy to me because you talk about the twisting.

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Speaker 3: So one of the things that I have learned in

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Speaker 3: my short time working towards this master's in Divinity and

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Speaker 3: getting into ministry is that the job of a pastor

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Speaker 3: the job of anyone is not to read into God's word.

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Speaker 3: It is to actually open scripture and see what the

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Speaker 3: intent was. What does God want me to take from this?

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Speaker 3: Not what preconceived information did I take into this that

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Speaker 3: I can then find a way to make it work.

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Speaker 3: What you encourage people to do, I would encourage them

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Speaker 3: to do as well. Go listen to the speech in

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Speaker 3: its entirety, and do not go in there saying I'm

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Speaker 3: looking for him to say this, or try to or

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Speaker 3: try to try to assume what he's saying. First, actually

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Speaker 3: see it. Actually listen to it and say what is

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Speaker 3: he actually saying? Not what do I want to vilify

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Speaker 3: him for saying? Or what do I want to laud

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Speaker 3: him for saying? What is he actually saying? We don't

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Speaker 3: do that enough? Is that is a critical skill?

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Speaker 2: Here one word answer. Jason Denver Minnesota Game seven on Sunday, Denver,

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Speaker 2: New York or Indiana Game seven on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: New York.

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Speaker 2: I will go with Indiana. I think New York's super

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Speaker 2: banged up. I will go with Denver to win that game.

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Speaker 2: We gotta get out of here. We'll thank the crew.

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Speaker 2: Mary mack Ian bri in the back did a ton

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Speaker 2: of great work as well for the SEGA. I'm ere Torres.

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