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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've read too many of these previews. It eats

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter's good, Nolan Smith is good. Killie Ringo is

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Speaker 1: I don't care what returning production says. George is gonna

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Speaker 1: At worst, they will be very very very very very good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's Will must Champ and Glenn Schuman right there.

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Speaker 1: That's correct. I am more interested in the offense. I

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Speaker 1: He's one of like four tight ends that Georgia will

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Speaker 2: You know, it's hitting somebody up the seam because he

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Speaker 2: he connected deep pretty well. He hit Mconkee in some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to answer your question, I mean, there

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Speaker 1: But am I saying George is the faulty oxygen tank

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Speaker 2: Is there a chance, albeit small? Maybe you can give

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Speaker 2: me this this percentage, I don't know that. As I

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Speaker 2: could be rumblings man, maybe just fans online. Whatever, We're like,

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Speaker 2: let's see what we have in Brock, Vandergrift, let's see

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Speaker 2: Do you think there's an actual chance of that or

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Speaker 2: do you think he's unimpeachable.

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Speaker 1: I think he's unimps okay, and I don't necessarily agree

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Speaker 1: very winnable games where Georgia should have no trouble running

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Speaker 2: Oregon's defense, by the way, I think george is in

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Speaker 2: a better place than Oregon overall. To be clear, sure,

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Speaker 2: I think Oregon's defense might be to make some noise

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Speaker 2: And with Dan Lanning's knowledge of the current Georgia team,

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Speaker 2: I obviously thinks they're going to change in this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I don't know. I think that's I still

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Speaker 1: I'm in on Georgia. I'm in on Georgia coming out

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Speaker 1: I'm saying here is I don't think Georgia will be

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Speaker 2: Can you rank for me the lost likelihoods in that

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Speaker 2: losses in that clearly brutal stretch, just in terms of

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Speaker 1: In terms of the SEC East, I would probably rank

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Speaker 2: In that or See one in Athens, Florida two, Neutral,

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Speaker 2: and then Kentucky three, Kentucky three. Yeah, Mississippi State. And

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Speaker 2: there's a little sat talking. I'm just talking.

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking SEC East.

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Speaker 2: No, No, what I'm saying those games specific because now

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Speaker 2: you're not just talking SEC East with Georgia and losing,

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Speaker 2: because the expectations are not just the visional crown.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The Starkville Sando put me on the record today, gave

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago. If you remember I do. It's

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Speaker 1: Where do you want me to go next?

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Speaker 2: Osco? Tennessee. You're high on the balls, it appears I am.

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Speaker 1: I am. The over under for Tennessee is seven and

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Speaker 1: I really do. And so when I saw that, and

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Speaker 1: The progress on offense from twenty twenty to twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: What's interesting about the numbers, if you really dive in,

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Speaker 1: So don't sleep on that Pit game as one that's

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Speaker 1: got a lot of intrigue or some upset potential. I

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Speaker 1: would expect that Tennessee is going to be favored there.

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Speaker 1: I could see Pitt pulling that upset just based on

434
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Speaker 1: the way that team is put together. But the engine

435
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Speaker 1: for Tennessee's the offense. You already knew that it's the offense.

436
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Speaker 1: Josh Hipel ran almost three plays per minute last year,

437
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Speaker 1: which is officially the fastest pace in all the land.

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Speaker 1: He clearly knows offense My concern though, is twofold one.

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Speaker 1: The line's got to get better. They got to protect

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Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker better. There are four guys back from last

441
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Speaker 1: year's line, which was good in the running game, but

442
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Speaker 1: not good at protecting the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: No, he took a lot of hits.

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Speaker 1: He took a lot of Hooker goes down, the whole

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Speaker 1: thing goes down, so they got to keep him healthy.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it. You'll recall when we did our

447
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Speaker 1: spring snapshots months ago, how Tennessee and the line and

448
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Speaker 1: trying to figure that whole thing out was a concern

449
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Speaker 1: back then. It's still a concern now. The second thing

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Speaker 1: to me is it's unclear what Hendon Hooker's targets are

451
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Speaker 1: going to look like out wide. Other than Cedric Tillman.

452
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Speaker 1: There's a chance we finally get to experience productive brew McCoy.

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Speaker 1: He transferred again. He's at Tennessee now. He last caught

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Speaker 1: a pass what two years ago in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Yep, you know, he came in.

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Speaker 1: With a lot of regard. He's been all over the place.

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Speaker 1: But maybe he's a name. There are other names here

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Speaker 1: who are interesting, so they do have options. But from

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Speaker 1: a like thirty thousand foot view, I would say I'm

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Speaker 1: not super concerned about the offense outside of keeping Hendon

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Speaker 1: Hooker upright. I think this team and the heights to

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Speaker 1: which they can climb is almost directly correlated to how

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Speaker 1: well they play on defense.

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Speaker 2: Does Jalen Hyatt have a chance at being good enough

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Speaker 2: to score an nil? Deal that we can call him

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Speaker 2: like the Grand Hyatt or something like that. Isn't he

467
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Speaker 2: the receiver who had a big spring they had somebody else?

468
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Speaker 2: It's like an embarrassment of riches situation. Now Broom McQuay

469
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Speaker 2: coming in with Cedric Tillman. I hope so for Tennessee's

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Speaker 2: sake that they just have killers out wide. That'd be great.

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Speaker 1: Number eleven Jalen Hyatt. Yeah, I'm very optimistic that the

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Speaker 1: offense will get be good again. Got to keep Hendon

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Speaker 1: Hooker healthy. Defensively A huge open question to me. Just

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Speaker 1: don't know what to expect, And that's a problem because

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Speaker 1: the schedule is so difficult. So if you're telling me

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Speaker 1: Evan and a half over under, I'm in on Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: My inclination would be to say, over.

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Speaker 2: What single thing needs to happen for you to feel

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Speaker 2: more confident in the over Is it offensive line development,

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Speaker 2: is it edge rushing? What is it that you're like? Okay,

481
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Speaker 2: here is a piece that wasn't there last year that

482
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Speaker 2: can connect them to the next level.

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Speaker 1: I think they got to get better at getting off

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Speaker 1: the field on third downs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, keep the defensive legs fresh.

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Speaker 1: Keep the legs fresh. I mean it's already kind of

487
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Speaker 1: a crazy system given how fast paced the offense is.

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Speaker 1: They got to get better on defense. They got to

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Speaker 1: get better getting off the field on defense. Give their

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Speaker 1: offense more chances to do what they do well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. I mean, look, if if Hendon Hooker

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Speaker 2: is next step, if he is next level, which is

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Speaker 2: what does that mean? That means heisman ish? Right, Given

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Speaker 2: the best of Hendon Hooker, it's heisman ish. If he

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Speaker 2: is taking a step up to the next level, has

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Speaker 2: the receivers to put up silly yards, has the system

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Speaker 2: to put up silly yards, then their schedule is one

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Speaker 2: and oh two and oho three and oh four and

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Speaker 2: oh five and oh five and one six and one

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Speaker 2: seven and one, seven and two, eight and two, nine

501
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Speaker 2: and two ten and two heisman caliber hooker YEP, which

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Speaker 2: is a funny phrase, sayut loud. It is ten and two,

503
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Speaker 2: ten and two meaning everything around him is fine and

504
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Speaker 2: he is so good that he is the rising tide

505
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Speaker 2: part in the you know the verbiage on that, but

506
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Speaker 2: he is he is that to rise all ships and

507
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Speaker 2: get them to with some brakes at least, you know,

508
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Speaker 2: ten wins flirtation.

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Speaker 1: Look, he had a thirty one to three touchdown to

510
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Speaker 1: interception ratio last man and completed sixty eight percent of

511
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Speaker 1: his passes. That's a healthy year in a fast paced system.

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Speaker 1: It's a healthy year.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we can expect that again, that's

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Speaker 1: that's quite a ratio.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's only better with a deeper receiving core

517
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Speaker 2: and maybe an improved offensive line. I think you can

518
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Speaker 2: expect better.

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Speaker 1: I hope so. But that's I mean, that's the hell

520
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Speaker 1: of a season that he put together last year. Got

521
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Speaker 1: to stay healthy though, yet to stay currently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they currently have commitments from the number eight and

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Speaker 2: number eleven edge rushers. I mean that's all, you know.

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Speaker 2: It seems a lot of the focus is in getting

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Speaker 2: stronger along the edge, and they've got the five star

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Speaker 2: quarterback of the future. So thanks pointing in the right direction,

527
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Speaker 2: especially with the notice of allegations being what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tennessee is my number two in the SEC East,

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Speaker 1: I think, Okay, I continue to think I am intrigued

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Speaker 1: by Florida this year. I was not intrigued at all

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Speaker 1: when I found out that Florida was going to have

532
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Speaker 1: a new coach. I always shy away from situations like that.

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Speaker 1: I always just assume there's going to be some sort

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Speaker 1: of transition, that it's not going to click right away

535
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Speaker 1: that you know, and other people are of similar mindset.

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Speaker 1: At SEC Media Days, for whatever it's worth, everybody picked

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Speaker 1: Florida's fourth in the SEC East. We discussed it a

538
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Speaker 1: bit on a recent brewan a episode that would for

539
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Speaker 1: the Patreon folk, which you could find at Theballers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I get the logic. I'm a little creeped out by

541
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Speaker 1: the fact that it's a new coach, a new system,

542
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: and creep all that tun Yeah, yeah, I'm being dramatic here.

543
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: Disappointed last season, you know, a little bit of lingering

544
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: resentment from what went down last year. But I really

545
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Speaker 1: like Billi Napier, and I really like what he did

546
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Speaker 1: at Louisiana. The over under for this team is that

547
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Speaker 1: an even seven, which kind of felt low to me

548
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: at first, blush until I started going in and looking

549
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more. What I want to highlight here

550
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Speaker 1: is the upside potential of this Gators team.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I really.

552
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Speaker 1: Want to highlight that. I think there is a propensity

553
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Speaker 1: out there to just solely look at this from the

554
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Speaker 1: standpoint of this is a big transition going over to

555
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Speaker 1: a new coach. I want to highlight what they've got

556
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Speaker 1: and the upside potential that I see. I think Florida

557
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: is going to be hell of dangerous this year.

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Speaker 2: Uh oh, he used the H word.

559
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: I have a hella dangerous. The tie coming in from Piedmont, California. Yeah, continue,

560
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Speaker 1: I think they could contend for that number two slot

561
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Speaker 1: in the SEC East first and foremost. I am thrilled

562
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Speaker 1: about Anthony Richardson. Count me among the people who thought

563
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: who still think that he should have been the full

564
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: time guy last year for Dan Mullen. Maybe he wasn't

565
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: far enough along. I know he was nicked up a

566
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Speaker 1: little bit, pulled his hamstring or whatnot. But he's big,

567
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Speaker 1: he's lightning fast. Usually those guys are pretty good, right,

568
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Speaker 1: they're pretty good. You put them on the field, They

569
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Speaker 1: find ways to make plays. Got to get better as

570
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Speaker 1: a passer. Okay, don't we all but it's there. It's

571
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Speaker 1: all there. He's got so many tools. The line in

572
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Speaker 1: front of him should be good enough. Florida should be

573
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Speaker 1: fine out wide, running back a little bit of an

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Speaker 1: open question. No, but it's not like the cupboards bear.

575
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Speaker 1: It's not like the cupbods bear at all. I think

576
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Speaker 1: they'll be very, very solid on offense, led by Anthony Richardson.

577
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Speaker 1: If you turn him loose, he could be really good.

578
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: He could be kJ Jefferson playmaker level good, and that

579
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Speaker 1: I think, to some extent upsets the balance of the

580
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: force in the SEC East that could make Florida a

581
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Speaker 1: true contender for that number two spot. Now, defensively, is

582
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Speaker 1: where where you can start to make the case against

583
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Speaker 1: Florida is at number two team. And it's not because

584
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Speaker 1: the cupboards bear. It's because they're transitioning to a three four.

585
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Speaker 1: It's basically the same system that you see at Georgia

586
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Speaker 1: now and that you see at Baylor, where a lot

587
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Speaker 1: it's like a lot of hybrid stuff that happens after

588
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Speaker 1: the snap, guys moving around. They're trying to confuse quarterbacks

589
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Speaker 1: in real time. They can't read it before the snap.

590
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Speaker 1: That type of defense I like that. I like that,

591
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Speaker 1: and I think Florida's got the pieces in place where

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Speaker 1: they can play that style of defense. It really is

593
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Speaker 1: just a function of, okay, how long until they get

594
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Speaker 1: comfortable running that system. Billion Napier brought over is DC

595
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Speaker 1: from Louisiana to help install that system, and they ran

596
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Speaker 1: it very effectively at Louisiana. Is a good Louisiana defense

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Speaker 1: For a number of years.

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Speaker 2: They tried at times, like Todd Grantham is a three

599
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Speaker 2: to four guy. I don't know how multiple he tried

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Speaker 2: to get in what the details of his whether it's

601
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Speaker 2: one gapping or two gapping, and maybe you're right that

602
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Speaker 2: there's just relief in moving away from it.

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Speaker 1: I just grant them, yeah, three four, I mean, that's

604
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Speaker 1: that's your base set. But I just what they're doing

605
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Speaker 1: after the snap is what's different and confusing. I just

606
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Speaker 1: I think it's time for that change of pace at Florida,

607
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Speaker 1: especially when they've got these these guys like I love

608
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Speaker 1: Gervin Dexter along the defensive line. They're they're big dude linebacker,

609
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Speaker 1: A little bit unclear at this stage, but I just

610
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Speaker 1: feel so good about the returning talent for this Florida team.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get too excited, but seven feels really

612
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Speaker 1: low for me as an over under. Where I'm at

613
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Speaker 1: is right here with Florida. I want to know how

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Speaker 1: quickly they can get comfortable with the new coaching staff,

615
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Speaker 1: the new full time quarterback, then system on defense that

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Speaker 1: will ultimately be the billion Napier restrictor plate. Okay of sorts,

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Speaker 1: BILLI Napier is a good coach. I think the team's

618
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Speaker 1: gonna play hard for him. We're not going to have

619
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Speaker 1: a season like we did last year where we're talking

620
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Speaker 1: about the Gators as the one, two three can Coon

621
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Speaker 1: team of the week. That will not happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's buying an effort from the talent level.

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Speaker 1: They will buy in the efforts there, like they will

624
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Speaker 1: play really really hard for him, But the transition over

625
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Speaker 1: to being completely comfortable with all the new things will

626
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Speaker 1: not happen overnight. So how quickly does that happen? That

627
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Speaker 1: will ultimately limit their success? And secondly, will the schedule

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Speaker 1: eat them alive?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: This is this is an sec schedule is a brutal

631
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Speaker 1: schedule I mean Utah and Kentucky both at home, but

632
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Speaker 1: back to back Week one and two. I can't think

633
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: of another team in college football that plays two teams

634
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Speaker 1: of that caliber weeks one and two.

635
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Speaker 2: I guess, without knowing the the the talent level on

636
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Speaker 2: hand on defense, and that's me like, is there star

637
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Speaker 2: pal It always just seems like there is star power

638
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: for Florida's defense, whether it's a guy coming off the age. Recently,

639
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: it's been a lot of guys in the secondary. Is

640
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: there star power on this defense? Because if you are

641
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Speaker 2: gonna compete with George, if you're gonna compete with Tennessee,

642
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: especially throwing dudes out there against the Tennessee offense, Like,

643
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 2: are there legit first or second day of the NFL

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Speaker 2: Draft playmakers that are gonna be wearing blue and orange?

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Speaker 1: I think so, okay, you know, I mean, certainly on

646
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Speaker 1: the line, there are guys there that I think have

647
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: really high upside potential at the next level. But I

648
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: am gonna trust that this defense develops and that some

649
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: of those names emerge as this season takes place, you know,

650
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: in the stream of the season, because this is a

651
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: tough schedule and they're gonna need all the help they

652
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: can get on defense, provided the schedule doesn't eat him alive,

653
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: provided they get healthy, provided Anthony Richardson shows all the

654
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: promise that I've described here, I think Florida hits that over,

655
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: and I think Florida contends for two in the East.

656
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: All Right. It worries me that you weren't like, yeah,

657
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 2: this guy, this guy, and that guy for sure where

658
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 2: you were just you just sort of alluded to yea, guys,

659
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: That's what worries me. If that's how we're describing Florida.

660
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't think the cupboards that bear Okay,

661
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: I mean I feel very good about about this team.

662
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: I guess I just wanted on both sides even and

663
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: maybe that guy emerges, maybe because like there was something

664
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: about like, for instance, Kadarius Tony and even though he

665
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 2: didn't put it all together early on in his career,

666
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: he showed those flashes. Really, this might be the this

667
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: guy might be stupid good. And that's that's what I

668
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: can't wait to see with Floridas. Who emerges. There's by

669
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: the way, there's a good amount of juice and electricity

670
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: about the Gators on the recruiting trail, right now, which

671
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: just at least medium term, it seems like a good thing. Yeah,

672
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm good with that.

673
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: There's plenty of talent back there. That there really is

674
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: plenty of talent back there. You know, I don't know

675
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: if I mentioned Brenton Cox on the on the edge

676
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: as well. He's another guy. Just because Kayer Elam has gone.

677
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: There are plenty of other names with experience in the

678
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: defensive backfield. I just feel really good about where they're at.

679
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: It's just a fraction to me of how long it

680
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: takes to get up to speed with that defense.

681
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: You love to see it. Who do we have next?

682
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: Why don't we go to Kentucky? Let's why don't we

683
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: go to Kentucky ten three last year? You believe that.

684
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: If you had told me before the season, first year

685
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator named Liam will Levis stepping in first year

686
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: starting quarterback anywhere, that would have been a surprise to me. Yeah.

687
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially the version of will Levis that we saw

688
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: at Penn State, which is more of a running quarterback

689
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: when they needed a guy. You know, I was happy

690
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: to see will Levis do as well as he did.

691
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: I had many thoughts on will Levis, though, one he

692
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: had a good season after his transfer from Penn State.

693
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: I am happy that that worked out for him. He's

694
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: got a good arm, he's got good size, he's got

695
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: good toughness, a lot of personality. Allbe a very weird

696
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: food choices, which we don't need to discuss on this show.

697
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: Mayo and bananas and peels and all sorts of sit

698
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: On some level, you kind of wonder is he doing

699
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: it for effect because it plays on social media? Or

700
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: does he really like mayonnaise and his coffee?

701
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: Who's to say, yeah, because the shortcut to clout is

702
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: eating vegetable rines.

703
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't know what. I don't know. Okay,

704
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on there, but I get

705
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: why people are chatting him up for the NFL. He's

706
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: got interesting physical tools there. But Will Levis through thirteen

707
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: interceptions last year. Yeah, can we all just pump the

708
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: brakes a little bit on Will Levis? We got guys

709
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: writing him in number one, overall, number three, overall, first round. Lock.

710
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: Let's let's give this a chance to mature a little

711
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: bit here before we go all world everything on Will Levis?

712
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: What is the reasoning? By the way, if you're going

713
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: to talk about Will Levis and the draft attention he got.

714
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: Is it because of his arm strength? Is it because

715
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: they think there's there's acumen there. I saw the last

716
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: four or five games. I mean he threw four picks.

717
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: He had an especially bad game against Mississippi State, a

718
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: loss last year that I'll give you for sure, but

719
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: dominated New Mexico State tie. Do not overlook that, sir, Now,

720
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: I look, what's the appraisal. Is it just that he

721
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: is physically and you know, mentally the part and you

722
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: know he needed a good offensive coordinator to come into

723
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: his own and he just never had that at Penn State.

724
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

725
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: I think it's the combination of the size and the speed. Okay,

726
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, he does have a big arm, and he

727
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: can run and he's not the kind of guy in

728
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: the open field who's going to shy away from contact.

729
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: He's a big, strong kid. And you couple that with

730
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: the fact that he took a big leap forward in

731
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: his first year as a full time starting quarterback in

732
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: a pro enough style offense. Of course he's going to

733
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: get hype. I'm not fully buying it. I'm not saying

734
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: he's not going to play in the NFL, but as

735
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: a first round pick. Let's let's ease our way into this. Guys.

736
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's just say.

737
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: Said, Daniel Thomas really burnt you? Huh? He really did?

738
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, Yes.

739
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, excuse me, Daniel Thomas. Different names, still college football.

740
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: So look, Mark Stoops did an incredible job at Kentucky

741
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: last season, and on the whole, he's done an incredible job.

742
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: This is his tenth season at Kentucky. If you really

743
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: want to feel old, he's been there a while. Last

744
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: year was a really big deal for a variety of reasons.

745
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: But we can keep it within the context of what

746
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: he did on offense, hiring Liam Cohen to retool things,

747
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: obviously bringing in Will Levis and Wandale Robinson via transfer.

748
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: This year's offense should be solid again, but Liam Cohen's

749
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: gone and so is Wondale Robinson. Because of that, for me,

750
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to judge which direction this heads. It feels

751
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: like there's a lot more pressure on Will Levis because

752
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 1: those guys are gone, and so I'm less worried about

753
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: their new coordinator because he's going to keep the offense

754
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: mostly intact. But I just think it's so hard to

755
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: replace a guy like Wandale. He did so much for them,

756
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: and there's a reason that he got picked by the Giants.

757
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: I get to watch him every weekend if I want

758
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: to ian good for you. He's a utility guy and

759
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: he can do so much. He can pose matchup advantages,

760
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: disadvantages up and down your Saturday like. He's very very

761
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: good at it and was good at it. They're going

762
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: to try to use tav On Robbinson from Virginia Tech.

763
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: They're transferring a very similar capacity. We'll see how that goes.

764
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: He's certainly a talented return man. Can he serve that

765
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: Wandale role? That remains to be seen. The other big

766
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: question is around Chris Rodriguez. There's been some speculation he

767
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: might not be available due to a couple off field incidents.

768
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: The latest I saw is very optimistic that he will

769
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: be out there this fall.

770
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that he was practicing.

771
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: He's practicing. He's in the facility right. So it looks

772
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: like signs point to Chris Rodriguez being part of that offense,

773
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: which will be good. Which will be good. Don't have

774
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: Wondale out wide, but you have Will Levis you have

775
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: Chris Rodriguez. That's a good place to start. The line

776
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: will be okay, replacing four guys, which is never ideal,

777
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: but Kentucky has done a pretty good job keeping the

778
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: depth chart stocked on that offensive line side of things

779
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: that I think they'll be. They'll be good enough on

780
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: that side, defensively solid as well. A bunch of guys

781
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: back seven, back three super seniors who could have left

782
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: but didn't. There's more than enough talent to find a

783
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: really good unit out there for Brad White. I think

784
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: they'll be solid on defense. That's really been sort of

785
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: the calling card in the Stoops era. They've been good

786
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: on that side of things. Yep. So what I think

787
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying here is that with more pressure on Will

788
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Levis and with fewer obvious solutions out wide, I e.

789
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: You can't run your offense through Wandale anymore. I don't

790
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: know what that looks like.

791
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: Are you a hater? Ty? Is that what you're telling me?

792
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 2: I am a little bit of a Will Levis hater? Yeah,

793
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 2: you a hater.

794
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm not rooting against him, but I'm just not buying

795
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: the hype.

796
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Kentucky hater, you hate Big Blue.

797
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't hate Big Blue. Hater schedules a

798
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: mixed bag. Dan Okay at Florida, at Ole, miss at Tennessee.

799
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: They've got home games here against Mississippi State, Georgia and

800
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: Louisville over under seven and a half. In order to

801
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: hit the under, they've got to lose five of six

802
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: of those games, which I don't see happening. They're a

803
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: good team, man, They're a good team. So whatever skepticism

804
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: you were hearing in my voice as it relates to

805
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: the offense and Will Levis temper that a bit with

806
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: the fact that I don't think they're losing five of

807
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: six and if you're telling me seven and a half

808
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: is the over under, we may have to talk about

809
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: Kentucky on our over under show as the season gets

810
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: a little bit closer.

811
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: I just I think Kentucky here ath. I'll use another

812
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: mixed sports metaphor, mixed mixed sports comparison. I just think

813
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 2: they're gonna foul off a ton of pitches. They make

814
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: you earn everything when you play them. They're well coached,

815
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: and they're well coach. The losing of the playmakers and

816
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: you know both Liam Cohen and Matt House. It's it's

817
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: not insignificant. No, But I don't know. There's something about

818
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: the DNA of Kentucky where just like you're just gonna

819
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: look up and they're gonna win seven or eight.

820
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: I just they'll be They'll be very well coached again and.

821
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: Quietly recruited pretty well.

822
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I mean they've they've really done a good job.

823
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops has built this thing slow and steady for

824
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: the last decade.

825
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

826
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: And so the job that he has done there, the

827
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: fact that they're able to retain him and keep him

828
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: there to keep doing what he's been doing, the fact

829
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: that he has shown flexibility and open mindedness as it

830
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: relates to his offense to move things along, to evolve

831
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: to something a little bit better like he did last season,

832
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: to plug Will Levis and Wandale in the way that

833
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: he did. It was a masterstroke. It worked really well.

834
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm just curious to see how does Will Levis look

835
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: when more of that pressure is on his shoulder.

836
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: I feel good about it now. It is a winter

837
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: wonder question to me because Wandale Robinson as.

838
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: Was one of a kind. He's one of a kind,

839
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: and I do not see anybody else in this roster

840
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: that is going to be Wandale.

841
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 2: Just not okay, fair enough. And the new coordinator is

842
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: somebody from the Kyle Shanahan footprint. I believe that's the background.

843
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: He went back in that direction, Mark Stoops going first to.

844
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: The uh skangerrilla. Yeah, yeah, which.

845
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: McVay, the Sean McVay footprint. I love the word footprint.

846
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: And now he's going to the Kyle Shanahan one, which

847
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: obviously they cross over as well back in their early

848
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: NFL days. So looking for that like sharp young NFL

849
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: background coordinator once again, going back to that well and

850
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: hopefully pay dividends once again for will Lews.

851
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: It should look very similar. Honestly, it should look very

852
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: similar to what we saw last year. I don't think

853
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: it's going to change all that much. It might have

854
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: to because the personnels a little different, but by and

855
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: large same type of system.

856
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: And by the way, it should be noted and I

857
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: think this was the sub text of what you were saying.

858
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: Kentucky's offense was a nightmare bad not that long ago. Nope,

859
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: Like all due respect to Terry Wilson and the attempts

860
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: at an explosive offense for two, three, four straight years

861
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: there where they were just like, well, hopefully Benny Snell

862
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: gets another first down. They were fun last year. They

863
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: were full on fun under Liam Cohen and so that

864
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: type of transformation usually takes some time, and they flipped

865
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 2: it real quick. So I think they're only building on it,

866
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: even without a true game change or at receiver like

867
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: they had last year. I'm still pretty high in Kentucky.

868
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: Three more teams to discuss in the East.

869
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: Let's I'm gonna choose your South Carolina game.

870
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: Cocks seven and six last year five and three in conference.

871
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: Carolina was the feel good story of the season, and

872
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: Shane Beemer was an instant success, so I don't think

873
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: that's going too far. They played hard for him. This

874
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: was a Carolina team at the start of last season

875
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: that most of us left for dead because the schedule

876
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: was brutal. There were no obvious answers anywhere, no obvious

877
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: answers anywhere. I mean, you want to talk about square peg,

878
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: round hole.

879
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: We got to.

880
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: Find a way to make this fit into the hole

881
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: for this.

882
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: Using nothing but that.

883
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean that was Shane Biemer last year. Yeah, I

884
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: like that. That was Shane Biemer. He did it wonderfully.

885
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: They played the ninth hardest schedule in college football. They

886
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: started a GA for some period of time at Cobb

887
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: along with it converted wide out and later an FCS transfer. Yeah,

888
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: he just pieced this thing together on the fly. They

889
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: won the Duke's Male Bowl and uh, I mean hopefully

890
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: Shane Beemer's recovered from his near concussion after getting whacked

891
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: on the head from the Male That but.

892
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: Good, good season.

893
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: And then they kept winning in the off season because

894
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: they got Spencer Ratler be the transfer portal. He will

895
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: immediately make them better. An incredible get for Shane Biemer,

896
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: by the way, to really address the need they go out.

897
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: They get Spencer Rattler. Austin Stagner again comes over from Oklahoma.

898
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: That's two guys that he's able to yank from the

899
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: old Oklahoma Sooners team. I feel good about the talent

900
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: in the backfield. Juju mcdowbm R Sean Lloyd, Christian Bale

901
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: Smith who comes over from Wake you remember that name.

902
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: They have skill talent in a way they didn't last year.

903
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: The problem is the line stank last year.

904
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: YEP, hardly fix.

905
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: It's hard to fix in a year, and so this

906
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: is one of those deals where they're all back for

907
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: another tour of duty. Is that good?

908
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: Maybe?

909
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm kind of forcing a smile here

910
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: for those of you who are watching the video. Yep,

911
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: maybe I can't really say for sure. I know the

912
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: defensive line is solid. I know the schedule is again ridiculous.

913
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: So with respect to South Carolina, I think South Carolina

914
00:47:53,080 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: will again have big time issues with consistency, and that's

915
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: function of talent that is on this team. They will

916
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: be better on offense, if only because their quarterback suddenly

917
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: is hugely upgraded from where it was a year ago.

918
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: And I am ever fearful of some of these games

919
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: that happen at odd points in the season. A team

920
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: traveling to Columbia, South Carolina going up against Spencer Rattler,

921
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: that worries me.

922
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 2: The schedule is alright, though I just pulled it up.

923
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: I think I don't think so okay. So you have

924
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: a Georgia State team who I think is underrated, is

925
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: pretty good Arkansas Georgia Arkansas on the road, Georgia at home, whatever.

926
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 2: But then you got Charlotte, who might be okay, nothing special.

927
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: South Carolina State. You have Kentucky and Texas A and

928
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: M in a row, but then arguably a bit of

929
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: a buffer with MISSOO and Vanderbilt, and then you finished

930
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: with Florida, Tennessee, Clemson. I just think it's separated enough.

931
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: I think there are different chapters to this schedule, but

932
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: there's only four obvious wins. There isn't a run of

933
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: seven really tough games. No, that's all I'm saying.

934
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, there are like two wounders rows in here.

935
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 2: Many were many. Yeah, I'm good with that.

936
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: You know. So if you're telling me that this South

937
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: Carolina team they put up a fight, let's say against

938
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: Tennessee late in the year, I could probably buy that.

939
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: If you're telling me that they put up a fight

940
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: against Texas A and M randomly after A and M

941
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: comes off a bye week after playing Alabama, I could see.

942
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: That they could be gumpy. Yeah, I could see them.

943
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: Being interesting in some of these games and definitely being

944
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: more of a risk. Right South Carolina gets Florida week

945
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: after Florida goes to A and M. I could see

946
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: them being a letdown spot. Like there are just some

947
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: odd spots here. There is a gumpiness to the schedule

948
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: where you have a good quarterback, you have a coach

949
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: that's a motivator, the overall talents better than it was

950
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: a year ago. So you know, they won seven games

951
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: when six and six regular season? Could they do six

952
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: and six again? Probably? They probably could, But they're gonna

953
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: have to steal a couple of these games because I

954
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 1: think it's a tough schedule. I'm not counting a number

955
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: of these games as any obvious wins. So we'll see.

956
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: I think another step forward for Shane Beemer. I'm just

957
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: not sure if it's like eight and four. You know,

958
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: a step forward in this case could still mean a

959
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: six and six season.

960
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: I mean you could just say, I don't think it'll

961
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: be eight and four. With everything changing so much in

962
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: the sport, Spencer Rattler behind a shaky line just feels familiar.

963
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: It's something that we it's.

964
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: Good to have that kind of anchor.

965
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think South Carolina eventually will continue to improve.

966
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 2: It's a tough schedule, it's a tough situation in terms

967
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 2: of playmakers on both sides of the ball. And yeah,

968
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: the best you can hope for is I think South

969
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: Carolina getting enough teams at opportune times, keeping the team

970
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 2: super motivated and super bought in that we'll see if

971
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 2: they can outplay the roster. But otherwise, yeah, I think

972
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: it's gonna be another growth here. But a lot to

973
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: a lot of positive to drawn from last year.

974
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: And he did well in the portal you know. Yeah, absolutely,

975
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: count Shane Beemer among the other coaches out there who

976
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: are trying to piece this thing together one at a time,

977
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: like Johnny Cash one piece of a time style, putting

978
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: together an offense, putting together a defense. Is doing whatever

979
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: he can to plug and play.

980
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: Portal Prince, not a portal king. No portal Prince, Yeah.

981
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: Portal Prince. Sorry about Miszoo. I'm fascinated with Miszoo this season.

982
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: Coached by America's craft beer dad.

983
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Eli drink quits six and seven year last year.

984
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: I think, for my money, I think Miszoo is the

985
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: most interesting team East. Okay, and that's weird to say

986
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: because they're over under his four and a half. But

987
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't touch the over. I'm not saying hit the over,

988
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: but I feel like we talked a lot about Miszoo

989
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: after Eli Drinkwitz's first year and then they started two

990
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: and three, and nobody talked about him last season. That

991
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: was it. This is a really good example of what

992
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: I said back on the Big Ten East Show about

993
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: coaches like Mel Tucker and Greg Chiano having an actual

994
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: logical roadmap to improve in It doesn't always get talked

995
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: about and doesn't always drive the most hype, But I

996
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: like Eli Drinkwitz and I think he has that vision.

997
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: The reality here is that he's probably a year away

998
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: from seeing a true return on his efforts, which is

999
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: part of why this season is so damn intriguing to me.

1000
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: Still a bit of a transition year. Here's what we're

1001
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: looking at. A he has recruited like a madman, an

1002
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: absolute madman. Zoo finished with the number fifteen class in

1003
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. He's done really well with the in

1004
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: state kids. It's likely that we're going to see some

1005
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: of that talent right away. On offense, Luther Burden was

1006
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: the top wide receiver in the nation. He's plug and play.

1007
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: He's their number one target from day one. Jamrian Wade

1008
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: is another four star wide out who I think is

1009
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: going to get some action to. Vorish Jones, a four

1010
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: star running back who figures to get some reps as well.

1011
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: The problem for Miszoo on offense is that they have

1012
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: to figure out what to do now that Tyler Baty's gone.

1013
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: He was basically their entire offense last season. So in

1014
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: addition to Jones, there's a stable of like three or

1015
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: four other guys who are definitely going to get work.

1016
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: I think the line in front of them is going

1017
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: to be pretty good. So we don't quite know what

1018
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: all the moving pieces look like on the Miszoo offense side,

1019
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: or how they're going to settle in come Week one,

1020
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: but I feel confident in say that there's a lot

1021
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: of talent there and at least a year from now

1022
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: they should definitely be hitting their stride. Losing Tyler Bady

1023
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 1: Thoes a big blow and it just sort of sets

1024
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 1: back truly what the potential is here. The quarterback room's

1025
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: also interesting. Connor bazlac He was the guy we thought

1026
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: Eli Drinkwitz was gonna build around.

1027
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 2: After the LSU game, yes, and that didn't work.

1028
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: Two years ago it didnt work. Connor Bezlick went to Indiana.

1029
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: So now we're looking at a three man race between

1030
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: Brady Cook and Tyler Macon and Jack Abraham, who transfers

1031
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: in from Southern miss I think Abraham's probably the guy

1032
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: given his experience, but I have not seen that like

1033
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: confirmed anywhere. I think that's probably the guy. Defensively.

1034
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask if I can be blunt, Yeah,

1035
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: go ahead naming running back recruits and Luther Burden and

1036
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 2: Connor Bezlac and Tyler Bady. It's so cool of you.

1037
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: It's so nice because all of those guys seem competent

1038
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: and interesting. Doesn't matter. They couldn't stop anybody last year.

1039
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: They couldn't stop people in the red zone. They couldn't

1040
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: stop people on passing downs, they couldn't stop people on

1041
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: third down. They couldn't get after the quarterback. The linebackers

1042
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 2: made no plays.

1043
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: I know, I know.

1044
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: And look, you want to hear something window offense with

1045
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: the Zoo. I'm ready.

1046
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: They're all back. Everybody from that stellar defense is back

1047
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: from here, everybody who brought you. Yeah, yeah, So again,

1048
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: do you trust returning production? Do you choose to ignore it?

1049
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna choose to I'm gonna choose to trust it.

1050
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1051
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,959
Speaker 2: They were horrible last year. They got to get better.

1052
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: Only is the only way that they can go is up,

1053
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: and I think definitely on offense, they'll be interesting and

1054
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how that takes shape. Defensively bad

1055
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: last season, everybody back. It'll be a good test, if

1056
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: nothing else for a returning production number.

1057
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: I guess.

1058
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying here.

1059
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: Okay, who's they have, like a big quarterback of the future,

1060
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 2: Sam Horn? Is that his name?

1061
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, yeah, okay, Sam Ward.

1062
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: So it's all just trying to get to him if

1063
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: it's quarterback and defense, and I expect Miszoo to be

1064
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 2: active in the portal if the defense doesn't get any

1065
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: better this year, if you drink its wants to save

1066
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: his job. That's where we're heading.

1067
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: Recruiting has been good. Recruiting has been good. Got to

1068
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: keep him around after this year. I got to see

1069
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: what happens. But it's not obvious to me that it's

1070
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: going to get a whole lot better for Miszoo. Okay,

1071
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: final team in the East, I'll do this quickly. It's Vandy.

1072
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 1: Vandy was terrible last season. You already knew you're listening

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00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: to the show. You knew that. What you didn't know

1074
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: is they signed their best recruiting class in quite some time.

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00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: Number thirty two overall love it great, over under his

1076
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: two and a half. Don't take the over, Please, don't

1077
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: take the over. Oh no, really, I'm rooting for Vandy.

1078
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: The line offensive line is going to be a complete adventure.

1079
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: Skill talent's okay, but the offensive line is going to

1080
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: be It's going to be a journey. Ken Seals is

1081
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: back to run his car dealership, so.

1082
00:56:59,000 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: Ken Seals Honda.

1083
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: Yep, there's that. Mike Wright is also back a quarterback.

1084
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: He'll get some time. Like I said, skill talent's okay.

1085
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: Running Backs, wide receivers, they're fine. The line is just

1086
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: it's a lot and it's going to be a lot

1087
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: to overcome. Defensively. I like the linebackers, but pretty much

1088
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: nothing else. They had a lot of guys transfer out.

1089
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: Assuming Clark Lee is there for long enough, and I

1090
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: think he will. I think he wants that gig and

1091
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: likes it. Assuming he hangs around for a while, he'll

1092
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: figure out that defense because he's got a track record too.

1093
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: Everywhere he's been he's made the defense better. I'm familiar

1094
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: with his work intimately from his time at Notre Dame.

1095
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: There's really nowhere to go butt up for this defense.

1096
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: So I would expect some improvement, not crazy improvement, but

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00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: I think they'll they'll be better. I'm not optimistic that

1098
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: they're eclipsing their two to ten mark from last season.

1099
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: It kind of feels like another two to ten year

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00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: for me.

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00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear it. I'm rooting for Bandy me too,

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00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: I am. And I like clark Lee.

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00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: I really like clark Lee. I think it's noble of

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00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: him to want to take that job with such vim

1105
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: and vigor, like he wanted that Vandy job. For a while.

1106
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: We had been hearing rumblings forever Clarkly wants Vandy, Clarkly

1107
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: wants Vandy that opening. It's not surprising to me at

1108
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: all that he would take that gig.

1109
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: Eon Hawaii, Elon, and Northern Illinois three of the first

1110
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: four weeks. Yep, I must win September. Yep, they have Wake.

1111
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: They're probably not going to be Wake no Ah for

1112
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: the for the doors.

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00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's where I'm at. I've I've got Georgia

1114
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: head and shoulders above. Another grouping of three teams in

1115
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: any order between Tennessee, Florida and Kentucky Missoo. I am

1116
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: interested in. Maybe I'm the only person interested in Missoo

1117
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: because new names on offense and recruiting has been strong.

1118
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: Eli Drinkwitz is a motivator, much like Shane Beemer. Maybe

1119
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: he can pull an upset and then beneath kind of

1120
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: that Missouri layer, I've got South Carolina followed by Vandy God.

1121
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: I love Eli Drinkquitz. I hope it works out for

1122
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: him in Missoo. I want I want him in my

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00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: life all over the time. Yeah, saying carpool daddy, Lie, Okay, Sunbeast,

1124
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: you want to go to this. I'm gonna underthink this tie.

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Speaker 2: This is my specialty. I am the longtime conductor and

1126
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 2: engineer of the Underthink Express. Yes, I like app State

1127
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: a lot. I like app State. They're really good. Chase

1128
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 2: Price is back, he has new receivers. They should be

1129
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: able to run the hell out of the ball. The

1130
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: defense should be fine. They open with North Carolina at

1131
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: home in Boone, and then they traveled to College Station

1132
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 2: to take on Texas A and M. The home road

1133
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 2: splits aren't amazing because they're at coastal, which look, if

1134
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: you want to distill it down to what is the

1135
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: sun Belt East. It's app State and Coastal. That game

1136
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: is in Conway and newcomers to the sun Belt Marshall

1137
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: also on the road. Very quiet, competitive team under Charles Harris,

1138
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: the thundering Herd of Marshall. So app State, I think

1139
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: they're going to be in a really nice position. Chase

1140
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: Brice has been a college football player since twenty eleven. Yeah,

1141
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: so that really helps as here his fourth decade of life.

1142
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina also Grace and McCall has been around for

1143
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: a while, but he started as a freshman. Is the

1144
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 2: best quarterback in the conference and that goes a long way,

1145
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 2: and it should because he's not surrounded by much returning

1146
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: on offense. No, is that okay because the offense scheme

1147
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: wise is so different and difficult to defend than everybody

1148
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 2: else and what they're running in the conference. Yeah, maybe

1149
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: a little bit. If he's got a good back next

1150
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: to him. The defense returns enough, but there's still I

1151
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: mean enough in terms of star power, I should say,

1152
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: because the defense is largely new as well, but there

1153
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: are playmakers. I'm still a fan of Coastal. They have

1154
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: army in week one and as I mentioned, app State

1155
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 2: is coming to Conway. We're at Virginia late in their season,

1156
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: so we'll see what Tony Elliott's Who's are able to

1157
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 2: do By November. Georgia Southern will not be good, but

1158
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: Clay Helton might make them better than they are. Not

1159
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: super high on Kyle Van Trees, the transfer from Buffalo

1160
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: he comes in. I don't know. There's decent enough skill

1161
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: talent Georgia Southern, but there's just a ways to go

1162
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: all around. They open with they have Nebraska and UAB early,

1163
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: they're at Coastal and they finish at Louisiana Marshall app State.

1164
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: It's just a lot. It's just a lot. They're not

1165
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: gonna make a bowl game. They have a ways to

1166
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: go once again. Georgia State. Again I mentioned earlier during

1167
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: your Sun Belt or during your SEC preview. I think

1168
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 2: an underrated team a bowl team that runs the ball

1169
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: super well. I think they're gonna do it again. The

1170
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: defense should be all right, and I think they're gonna

1171
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: be a bowl game again. The problem is another team

1172
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: with a brutal schedule, so South Carolina on the road

1173
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 2: and North Carolina at home. So North Carolina staying local

1174
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: to the sun Belt at Army at app State, and

1175
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: then they finish with James Madison FBS newcomer James Madison,

1176
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 2: who actually should be pretty good and at Marshall. So

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01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: their home road splits are not amazing. But if you

1178
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 2: can run the ball and there's enough continuity on defense,

1179
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: I think you can win games. I think Georgia State's

1180
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: gonna win games. So I like them. It's Sean Elliott,

1181
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 2: James Madison, as I mentioned, newcomer to FBS. They're pretty

1182
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: good on both sides. Their starting quarterback is a transfer

1183
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: who comes in from Colorado State with experience. They recruit

1184
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 2: like as I talked about with a couple of other

1185
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: programs like Cincinnati recruits on a Power five level Jamu.

1186
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: The Dukes have been recruiting on an FBS level like

1187
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 2: North Dakota State. All of these teams who are perennially

1188
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: going deep into the FCS playoffs. There's a reason why

1189
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: they've got better players and better coaches. They're gonna be good.

1190
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 2: James Madison. I don't know if they're definitely a ball team,

1191
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: but they're gonna flirt. They're definitely gonna flirt with a bowl.

1192
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: They have a road tilt against Louisville. They're on the

1193
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: road against app State. They have Coastal to end things.

1194
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be pretty good. Marshall, as I mentioned, quietly,

1195
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: pretty competent in that they play both offense and defense.

1196
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 2: They have one of the best running backs in the

1197
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 2: nation regardless of level, and Rashina A Lee. It's if

1198
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 2: you remember this name who's now at his third place,

1199
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 2: Henry Colombie from a Ridge Utah State to Texas Tech,

1200
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 2: now to Marshall, now to Huntington. He that looks like

1201
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 2: he's going to be the guy in there. The offensive

1202
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: line he's gonna play behind is probably not all that good.

1203
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 2: But Charles Harris, who was known as a very very

1204
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: good recruit at Alabama, has hit the portal hard for Marshall,

1205
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: so they should be in a pretty good place, just

1206
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: mixing rotation guys and portal guys on defense. Marshall's at

1207
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: Notre Dame.

1208
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: Yep ye.

1209
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna lose that game, there's my take.

1210
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 2: But still, I think they're gonna be pretty good in

1211
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 2: the Sun Belt as they make that transition Coastal and

1212
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 2: app State both coming to Huntington. Watch out. That's all

1213
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying, watch out for Marshall, don't watch out a

1214
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: ton for old Dominion Ricky Ronnie's Monarchs. But obu so

1215
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: I guess speaking of her name, Brendan Clark, if you

1216
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 2: remember that name, sort of bear, I guess buried in

1217
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: the depth chart quarterback depth chart at Notre Dame, he

1218
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: transfers in looking like he's going to be the guy

1219
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: maybe or at least he's battling for it. So the

1220
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: Monarchs finished strong last year. They want to think their

1221
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 2: last five to make a bowl game against some atrocious teams,

1222
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: but hey, win games, winning games better than losing games,

1223
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: and ODU is able to do that. Last year. Their

1224
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: defense was probably the reason why they did a good

1225
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 2: job limiting big plays. But new conference, harder conference convience USA.

1226
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a different look than what the

1227
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 2: Sun Belt is and will continue to be moving forward

1228
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: as it climbs the college football reputation ranks. And ODU

1229
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 2: has Virginia Tech and a road tilt against Virginia early

1230
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: on at Coastal app State. I don't think they're going bowling.

1231
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: This feels like a foreign eight ODU team. So there

1232
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: is your absolutely stacked between app State, Coastal and to

1233
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: a lesser extent, Marshall maybe Georgia State in that sort

1234
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 2: of second tier looking thing. Just a lot of good teams.

1235
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: The depth of competence in the sun Belt East is impressive.

1236
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: I have app State because I think there's more I

1237
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: can count on coming out of the division, because Coastal

1238
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 2: has to replay so much on both sides of the ball. Well,

1239
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 2: if Grayson mccallkins zerbiak them forward, more power to them.

1240
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 2: I'm going the elder Chase Brice and his surroundings in

1241
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: boone overcast also give me app State to come out

1242
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 2: of the Sunbelt East.

1243
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Speaker 1: West and Sun Belt West. And I can't wait for

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Speaker 1: that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein for myself,

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Speaker 1: Tie Hildebrand. We will catch you all next time. In

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Speaker 1: the meantime, as always, stay solid, peace,