WEBVTT - Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 145 | Expectations for Jaguars Rookie Minicamp This Weekend 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.760 Spoke of it to Jagsam. I'm kin Nannie Stephens our 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.720 first jags Am of the month of May. Brian Session 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.840 and John Oser are with me today. It's exciting months 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.600 coming up. OTA's are around the corner of voluntary workouts 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.160 already going on. But let's start out with our first 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:33.640 big thing today, which is Rookie Mini Caamp that's coming 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.639 up in the coming days. And as much excitement as 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.000 there is swirling around this rookie class, Brian, what are 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:41.680 you most looking forward to in Rookie Minni Caamp? 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.400 Travis Hunter? I mean, listen, I can't imagine even being 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.120 excited about Rookie Mini Camp, especially you know since twenty 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.640 fifteen when things changed after Dante Fowler tore his ACL 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.600 and they went to more of a walkthrough. But you're 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.280 getting a star. You're getting a superstar in Travis Hunter 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:02.240 who brings such a huge press both online and in person. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:04.600 I'm excited to see him. 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.440 Yeah, I mean, Travis Hunter is the only answer, and 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.160 since Brian goes first, he gets the answer today. But 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:15.399 within that right, the people who are coming out to 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:19.360 see this, you're not gonna see, you know, much football stuff, 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.200 but you will see speed. You know, you will see 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.679 Tooton's very fast Hunters very fast. They tried to draft 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:30.600 to get some speed, so I think you'll see some 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:32.959 suddenness from those guys, and that's the kind of thing 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.959 you can see. But the show is Travis Hunter, and 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.360 this is the first act of the show. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.360 We love that. Our second big thing today gonna be overhaul. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.600 We talked a lot about the front office changes we 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.200 saw in the off season, but now after the draft, 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.240 we're seeing some more changes continue. Assistant general manager Ethan 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.639 Wah parted ways with the team. Some other front office 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.920 changes Jonas is something we'll see consider we will see 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.640 going forward the next couple of weeks as this goes along. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:02.920 Yeah, I think this is how the clock works with 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.200 a new GM. They come in, they do the draft 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.560 with people who are existing, because the people who are 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.960 there have the institutional knowledge of what this scouting staff 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.520 has looked at. Then once you get through the draft. 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.840 James Gladstone, other Rams do things a certain way. James 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.760 Gladstone does it things a way that I anticipate evolving 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.119 from the Rams, and we'll stop talking about that soon. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.480 But he'll bring in his people, people who see it 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.720 the same way he does and who he has experience with, 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.800 just like anybody. So I think the transition you'll see 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:38.280 over the next month ish is very natural, expected and 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.320 it would be exciting though, Brian, because these guys think 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.280 a little different, and I think it's natural when you 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.519 do that that you want to get. You want to 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:48.959 get people who are on the same page as you. 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.600 Well, since John gets to go first with the second question, 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.760 he got the obvious answer, so I'm just going to 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:58.119 reiterate it in different terms. You just expected that the 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:02.200 previous GM's right hand man was going to be dismissed. 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.280 I mean, I don't know whether he expected it, but 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.800 I think everybody around expected it. But to John's point, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.960 they just do things different. It's an unconventional way of 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.000 approaching asymmetrical. I've called it the Hedge Fund over and 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.320 over and over. It's guys that do things a completely 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.240 different way, old school football, new school football, and they're 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.200 going to infiltrate the ranks with people that do things 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:23.639 their way. 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:24.440 Just makes sense. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.320 Our final big thing today is going to be turnover. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.200 We saw a ton of signings in free agency, obviously 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.520 with the new front office here and now we've seen 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.920 the rookie additions and also the undesignated free agent additions. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:37.920 I think there's almost twenty of them. So Ryan, when 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:39.960 you look at this roster, it's going to be more 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.240 than half new people right at this point, which makes 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.280 sense with a changeover in management. But what are we 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.520 looking for as far as things go forward. There's gonna 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:48.520 be a lot of new faces. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.280 Yeah, And I think the speed side of it is 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.240 what really stands out. I mean, this team added it 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.880 all over the place. I don't know that I thought 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.280 they were terribly slow last year, but it's clear that 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.840 this coaching staff and the scoutings gap wanted something completely different. 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:03.760 So when you look down the ranks of the guys, 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:08.000 especially the undrafted rookie free agents, you see speed, speed, speed. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.720 I think that's the part that, as John alluded to, 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.480 we're going to see on Saturday, guys running and running fast. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:19.040 Yeah. And you can't really change a culture without changing 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.200 the people and some of that as players. So I 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.120 do think you're seeing that. I think the number is 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.560 twenty nine rookies last time I counted, I think there 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.479 were twenty two free agents by the time they finished. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:35.040 And I think The intriguing thing is James Gladstone. I 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.599 think he alluded to it. To the draft, they clearly 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:42.559 left spots. Their roster was a little smaller after free 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.680 agency going into the draft. That maybe would have been 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:47.880 usual a lot of teams sort of wait, see what 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.359 they draft, then they release guys. The Jaguars were able 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.479 to sort of just we're gonna leave space. They knew 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.440 what positions were likely. So this has been a plan 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.480 from day one. And of course there's transition because you're 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:01.200 changing culture. 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.000 I was at an event with James last night and 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.600 he was asked this very question about undrafted rookies and 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.119 filling the roster with rookies and there being a chance, 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.600 and he went back to a year, probably three years 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.200 ago in Los Angeles where they had forty six players 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.760 under contract on draft weekend and they filled in the 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.920 gaps with rookie free agents using their method, their DNA, 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.320 as he alluded to time and again. And you've seen 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:28.760 what they've done the last couple of years, and of 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.200 course they made a playoff run last year, so it 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.320 clearly has worked for them, and that's what they're setting 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:35.080 about to do here. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.719 So hope it works. Just as well in Jacksonville. Say 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:39.000 with us here on jag Zam, we're going to go 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:47.960 over some of that roster construction after the break. Jag 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.479 Dam today brought to you by Fresh from Florida. It's 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:51.640 always in season. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:57.640 This score that, this score that. 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.240 Welcome back to jack Exam today. We're gonna have rookie 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.640 mini camp at the end of the week. Voluntary workouts 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.400 still have been going on for a while and Brian 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:09.280 don't have the exact number count, but it's pretty good 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:09.960 turnout so far. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:11.919 That generally happens in a year where you get a 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:13.800 brand new coaching staff. Guys want to come in and 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.400 take advantage of the opportunity to get ahead before OTAs, 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.919 plus the excitement and energy level with a new young staff. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:25.159 It can't hurt. 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:31.200 Well, it almost always happens in Florida anyway, as Brian 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:35.880 alluded to with the new staff and frankly with this bunch. Look, 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:41.039 they're voluntary, but I can list maybe six seven guys 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.840 who I know will start. I can't listen any more 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.359 than that, So I'm sure there is a little bit 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.600 of a psychological thing. If you're competing, even for an 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.840 offensive line position, might be a good idea to get there, 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:55.840 and I be in front of the coaches, even though 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.960 the coaches can't say do anything yet. 0:06:58.000 --> 0:06:59.800 Yeah, listen, I think especially if you're talking about an 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.440 off line position, because that's a group that's inder great scrutiny, 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:04.720 and they brought in a bunch of players and drafted 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.440 some as well. And I don't think either of the tackles, 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.320 either Walker Little or Anton Harrison, has distinguished himself enough 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.560 to be clear of competition. So I think that group 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.320 in particular is going to be under some scrutiny. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:17.960 We're going to talk about a couple of things when 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.280 we talk about competition and what we're looking at in 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.640 terms of roster construction. On the defense, we saw some additions. 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.080 I think at this point we've seen most of what 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:26.720 they're going to do for the roster. Maybe a free 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.880 agent here or there. But where's your concern lie on 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:31.120 the defensive side of the football. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:31.960 Obviously, there was. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.440 A lot of breakdowns in the secondary last year, not 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.920 a ton of push from the defensive line, which one 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.000 of those is a focus you think needs to be 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.920 this offseason to be better next season. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.240 Like safety, I mean, we saw so many big plays 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.720 down the middle last year and I realized and Francisco 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.000 had a poor year and he's now in New York. 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.640 But john it seemed, especially when Dewey Wingard was down, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:58.360 that they just didn't have any answers. Antonio Johnson did 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.440 not rise to the occasion, at least not in that 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.000 scheme last year, despite at the end of the year 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.120 prior showing a lot of skill. It just seemed like 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.960 they had no solutions at safety whatsoever. I know they've 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.440 addressed that both in free agency and the draft, but 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.480 that's the area, the middle of the field that I'm 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:15.400 most concerned about. 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:19.440 Well, I'm so little concerned at corner. You know, Travis 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:23.000 Hunter is a good I mean, obviously an incredible ad. 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.840 I believe Jordan Lewis will go outside some and Travis 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.280 Hunter will play there. I still want to see what 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.080 that looks like. Although I think they think they or 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:37.920 they have addressed corner and secondary, I still wonder if 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.719 some defensive line stuff isn't still to come. I think 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:46.959 you could still see them add edge tackle whatever. I'm 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:48.959 not sure they're done there. In terms of veterans, you know. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.920 For his sake, I hope that Mason Smith is working 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.040 his butt off. I mean, there's so much, there's so 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.720 much being placed on his shoulders. You know, a second 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.079 round pick a year ago, a guy with immense potential, 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.439 and if he's right, if he's good, kai, I mean, 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.559 they've got a major issue in the middle of their 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.679 defense solved. But if he's not and he's a disappointment, 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:09.839 then they've got an issue that they're gonna deal with 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:10.440 all season long. 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:14.040 I think the big thing there is they would love 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.960 him to be what the last regime drafted him as, 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.480 because I think that gives you what you know is 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.520 gonna be for twenty six and twenty seven. If I'm 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.760 getting the years right after this, it's hard to see 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:30.080 Eric Armstead being here after this year. So they would 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:34.000 love to have Mason Smith moving in ascending Mason missing 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.520 me a big part of rotation this year, but to 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.600 be the guy in there, Boy, would that be something 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.040 they wouldn't have to address in the draft in a 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:43.839 premium area. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.880 Again, let's switch to the offensive line. Obviously, we talked 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.160 a ton about the additions they've made to that room, 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.080 how different it's gonna look. We know there'll be at 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.760 least two new starters just by way of Mitch Morse's 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.520 retirement and Brandon Sheriff not being here anymore. So center 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.320 and right guard will be different this year, but there'll 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.679 be more than two new starters to this offensive line 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:02.960 this year. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.440 John will yeah, and I couldn't tell you which one, Brian, 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:11.200 But I think I mean every position and even the 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:16.480 guys they brought in are competing. But left tackle, right 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.680 guard is absolutely a competition with Wyatt Mile. I'm coming 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.000 in to push as I'm sorry, I've got that left 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.960 guard right. But the reason I guess I said it 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.280 that way, I don't know that there's a position that 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.160 I would bet my house where I know the starter. 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.920 I think it'll be little. You know, the guys were 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:43.400 sort of projecting, but I bet I don't bet one 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.920 hundred percent if I picked it right now. I think 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:47.000 the competition is that real. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:48.480 Well, I think that the two guys we talked about 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.280 in the outside both have a leg up because they're 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.840 the most athletic, they're the most capable guys. But because 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.600 this new coaching staff does things so differently, I wouldn't 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.960 put it past anybody to be well. I even mentioned 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.400 to somebody, well, certainly Hainsy the sentiment that they bring 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.560 in from Tampa. He knows the coach, he knows the scheme. 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.400 And I said, somebody say, don't bet on it, right, 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.599 I mean, he's gotta go earn it. So yeah, I 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.439 mean there's some guys that are probable that you think 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.680 they just make sense. But the offensive line is going 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.560 to be the storyline of training camp beyond the quarterback 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:22.080 in Travis. 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:22.640 Absolutely. 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:25.959 Now let's turn our focus to the running back room. 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.200 Another crowded room when we look at two editions from 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.360 the rookie class, plus obviously undesignated free agents as well. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.080 But looking at that room, who do we think will 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.800 have at the end of the season the most cares 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:38.280 for the team? 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:44.079 Tooting will by the end, I just think they drafted 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:49.199 him to give them that explosiveness. I'll kind of pull 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:50.680 back on that a little bit. Will you have the 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.440 most carries? I think so? Will he have the most impact? 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.560 Will he be the guy you're talking about the most? 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.839 I think I'd be surprised if he wasn't, because of 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.600 how they see him fitting. And it's not out of 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:04.679 the question that he starts. 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.080 He's there, Bucky Irving, you know, he's the guy that 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.920 comes in as a rookie and they believe can transform 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.280 the way the running game works. I think more interesting 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.240 is who's going to have the second most I mean, 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:16.800 is Travis Etn going to be a part of the 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.960 running back rotation or is he going to be more 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:20.640 of an offensive weapon, a guy that they line up 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.680 in the slot they move around, more of a third 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.640 down back. And we talked last week about the opportunity, 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.160 a distinct one that exists for Travis in that role. 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.160 I think Tank is going to be the guy who 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:32.240 has the second most carries. 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:36.920 Yeah, and don't sleep on Lequent Allen, Yes, seventh round pick. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.800 I'd be very surprised if he's not a factor. So 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.959 it's as much as we talk about the offensive line, 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.480 it sort of feels from outside like, well, Tank Bagsby 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.320 and Travis Atn have been the guys to sort of default. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:57.600 Not at all. This is everything's on the table wide receiver. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.760 You feel really good about knowing the three, and then 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:06.439 Parker Washington is the fourth that feels right. Quarterback feels right. 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.600 Beyond that, it's going to be interesting to see how 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:09.319 roles play out. 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.280 I think any order, I would believe you at this point. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.160 I'm not quite sure, but that's what makes it fun. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.280 Stay with us. We'll talk a little bit more about 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:24.120 what's coming up to the rest of the week. 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Bill from Hawthorn Woods, 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.400 Illinois says any insight on potential discussions to bring the 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.960 NFL Draft to Jacksonville after stadium completion, Green Bay worked, 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.520 so I have to believe that jack could support. 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.800 It as well, Right, think more about you know, if 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.920 there's discussions. I haven't heard, you know, any official, but 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.960 I would be very surprised if it's not a thing 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.240 that they you know, not only one get it's a fit. 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.800 It's a lever that the league uses for the non 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.280 Super Bowl cities, right, I mean, there's like nine cities 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:25.920 that are going to host the Super Bowl all across 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:30.240 the South into California, but places like Green Bay. When 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.200 they completed Title Town, which was a public private partnership 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.400 sort of like we're seeing out here. Green Bay was 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:41.560 given the opportunity to host the Draft. They use it suites, stadiums, 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.440 these sorts of things. And my guess is that the 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.080 reason it's going to Washington in twenty twenty seven is 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.560 because they've got the deal done for the new stadium there. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.960 I can't imagine that when the Commissioner came down and 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.160 met with the mayor when they were talking about the 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:59.160 stadium two years ago, that this was not on the table. 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.120 And I believe you'll see it here. They'll probably give 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:05.080 the stadium a year or two for everything to finish 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.360 up construction wise, and to work their way through the 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.960 punch list. But I would guess by twenty thirty Jacksonville 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.040 will be in the middle of the conversation. And it's 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.080 worth noting when they first moved it from New York 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.680 and took it to Chicago back in twenty fifteen, it 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:22.160 was a very simple affair. They had a setting a 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.440 grant park with a stage with the team tables, and 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.280 now it's become like a Super Bowl. I mean, it 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.920 stretches and it just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.360 So they may want to give it a couple more 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.760 years to make sure that the hotels and the infrastructure 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.920 are in place here. But I believe you'll see it 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.600 here twenty thirty, twenty thirty one. 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:41.360 But you've been at the last couple drafts, and it 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.160 can smaller market. 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.000 Obviously, green Bay did it right. Green Bay did Nashville. 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.880 It was. It started in Chicago and it was simple, 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.400 and then it went to Philadelphia and they closed up 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.440 the Ben Franklin Parkway and made it a bit bigger, 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.560 and then Nashville. Well, then went to Dallas. It was 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.840 in the stadium. Then Nashville took it a different level. 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.200 I mean they took Broadway all the way down. Uh, 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.800 it went to Vegas. Vegas is Vegas. Cleveland didn't do 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.320 much with it. Kansas City did a big deal on 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.760 the on the lawn in front of the Union Station 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.800 at the Liberty Memorial. Detroit did it in Cadillac Square. 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.120 Green Bay was completely different. They did it around the stadium. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.400 So I think it'll be an interesting mix. I'm interested 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.000 to see you know when they start talking about this, 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:22.720 how they do it, because I would imagine they'd want 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.840 something at the beach, they'd want something downtown here, they'd 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.320 want to blow it up, so to speak. Jacksonville can 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.680 absolutely do it. They just need more here downtown, which 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:34.280 is what they're working on right now. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.200 That's the plan. I will be very happy with the 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.120 traffic that weekend. R I'm used to being able to 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:39.480 get right in and get and get out. 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.960 Yeah, you'll be taking a shuttle somewhere. That's that's the 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:48.640 way it works. No, you'll tell you you'll have Green Bay. 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.400 Nobody got anywhere near it. It's become a Level one 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.880 national security event to tell you what the draft has become. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.840 So absolutely all right, John. Another one, Steve from Nashville, said, 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.840 you have probably covered enough region changes regime changes in 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.160 the NFL to know if this one feels any different 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.080 than all the rest. But those I feel different so far. 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.960 Well, I think they all sort of feel different in 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.680 different ways. To give an awful answer, but I think 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.600 when I answered the question, I think what he's looking 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:20.480 for is does this feel more right? I think the 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:26.840 uniqueness about this one is the transparency that they're acting 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.280 with and it's important to all of them to bring 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:34.880 the fans into the experience and Brian, it's it's hard 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.280 to put it into words, but there is a common sense, 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.320 especially with Piselli and Gladstone, who've gotten to know a 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.200 little bit better than I have Liam, but I think 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:49.240 they all share it this. They look at something and think, 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:51.600 is that the right way to do it? Yeah, okay, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.680 let's do it that. You know, that sounds very easy, 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.960 but so many regimes you've been around sort of try 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:02.359 to overcomplicate things. So overall, the thing I'm encouraged about 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:08.480 is the communication ability between Gladstone to sell and Liam 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:12.879 Cohne to be on the same page. I wish I 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:16.000 could describe it better, but I have great faith in 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:19.439 that as moving the organization in the right direction. 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.199 Well, I mentioned earlier, I was at an event with 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:22.840 all three of them last night, and I'm a big 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.560 body language guy. I kind of watched that and so 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.679 I was sitting in one stool at the end, and 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.240 then the three of them were together. It's distinct, Yeah, 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.439 I mean they finish each other's sentences. They kind of 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:34.760 look at each other. They've been together nine weeks for 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.840 goodness sakes, and yet it's very clear that they have 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:42.080 developed a strong cohesive bond between the three of them. 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:44.520 If I could put it into words, I would say 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.680 the transparency is the issue. I think people have seen 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:51.720 the clip of Tony and James walking on the practice 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.600 field and talking about the move. You realize they let 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.160 them shoot that weeks in advance, when very few people knew. 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.880 The level of trust that is in this organization right 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:07.359 now has never never been seen before, which goes to 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.679 show you that they are they are trying hard to 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:15.320 bring the fans into the building as much as they can. Well, 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:19.600 that's never happened before either. It's it's unique, it's remarkable. 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.240 Choose your adjective. We've been excited about regime changes before, 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.399 and there have been reason to be excited about regime 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.879 changes before, but there's never been anything like this. 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:32.280 And there's also a combination. Look, you got to win 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:36.520 and Trevor's got to improve. That's the base is there. 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:43.439 But there is a combination of boldness and confidence. It's impressive. 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:45.360 And as soon as I say that, I hear people saying, 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:46.720 whether he can be bold and confident on you want? 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.800 What if they're just too cocky. I don't. I don't 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.280 sinse that. I think it's it's a boldness based on 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:58.919 we know what we're doing. We've seen this operate before, 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.440 and we have to be the changes organization, so there's 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.720 never any guarantees in life or in the NFL. But 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:10.080 I feel better about this than anything I've I have 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.119 felt probably since I've been back in twenty eleven. And well, 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:17.720 I hope I'm right. I'm enthusiastic about it. I'm an 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:21.920 old cynical hack so I always have you know, I 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.600 always pull back on everything. But I think these guys 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:25.560