1 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: Spoke of it to Jagsam. I'm kin Nannie Stephens our 2 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: first jags Am of the month of May. Brian Session 3 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: and John Oser are with me today. It's exciting months 4 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: coming up. OTA's are around the corner of voluntary workouts 5 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: already going on. But let's start out with our first 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: big thing today, which is Rookie Mini Caamp that's coming 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 1: up in the coming days. And as much excitement as 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: there is swirling around this rookie class, Brian, what are 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: you most looking forward to in Rookie Minni Caamp? 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: Travis Hunter? I mean, listen, I can't imagine even being 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: excited about Rookie Mini Camp, especially you know since twenty 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: fifteen when things changed after Dante Fowler tore his ACL 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: and they went to more of a walkthrough. But you're 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: getting a star. You're getting a superstar in Travis Hunter 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: who brings such a huge press both online and in person. 16 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see him. 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Travis Hunter is the only answer, and 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: since Brian goes first, he gets the answer today. But 19 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 3: within that right, the people who are coming out to 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: see this, you're not gonna see, you know, much football stuff, 21 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: but you will see speed. You know, you will see 22 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 3: Tooton's very fast Hunters very fast. They tried to draft 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: to get some speed, so I think you'll see some 24 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: suddenness from those guys, and that's the kind of thing 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: you can see. But the show is Travis Hunter, and 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: this is the first act of the show. 27 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: We love that. Our second big thing today gonna be overhaul. 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: We talked a lot about the front office changes we 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: saw in the off season, but now after the draft, 30 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: we're seeing some more changes continue. Assistant general manager Ethan 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 1: Wah parted ways with the team. Some other front office 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: changes Jonas is something we'll see consider we will see 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: going forward the next couple of weeks as this goes along. 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is how the clock works with 35 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: a new GM. They come in, they do the draft 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: with people who are existing, because the people who are 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: there have the institutional knowledge of what this scouting staff 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: has looked at. Then once you get through the draft. 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: James Gladstone, other Rams do things a certain way. James 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: Gladstone does it things a way that I anticipate evolving 41 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 3: from the Rams, and we'll stop talking about that soon. 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: But he'll bring in his people, people who see it 43 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: the same way he does and who he has experience with, 44 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: just like anybody. So I think the transition you'll see 45 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: over the next month ish is very natural, expected and 46 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: it would be exciting though, Brian, because these guys think 47 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: a little different, and I think it's natural when you 48 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 3: do that that you want to get. You want to 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 3: get people who are on the same page as you. 50 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: Well, since John gets to go first with the second question, 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: he got the obvious answer, so I'm just going to 52 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: reiterate it in different terms. You just expected that the 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: previous GM's right hand man was going to be dismissed. 54 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know whether he expected it, but 55 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: I think everybody around expected it. But to John's point, 56 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: they just do things different. It's an unconventional way of 57 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: approaching asymmetrical. I've called it the Hedge Fund over and 58 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: over and over. It's guys that do things a completely 59 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: different way, old school football, new school football, and they're 60 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: going to infiltrate the ranks with people that do things 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: their way. 62 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: Just makes sense. 63 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: Our final big thing today is going to be turnover. 64 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: We saw a ton of signings in free agency, obviously 65 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: with the new front office here and now we've seen 66 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: the rookie additions and also the undesignated free agent additions. 67 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: I think there's almost twenty of them. So Ryan, when 68 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: you look at this roster, it's going to be more 69 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: than half new people right at this point, which makes 70 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: sense with a changeover in management. But what are we 71 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: looking for as far as things go forward. There's gonna 72 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: be a lot of new faces. 73 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the speed side of it is 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: what really stands out. I mean, this team added it 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: all over the place. I don't know that I thought 76 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: they were terribly slow last year, but it's clear that 77 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: this coaching staff and the scoutings gap wanted something completely different. 78 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: So when you look down the ranks of the guys, 79 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: especially the undrafted rookie free agents, you see speed, speed, speed. 80 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: I think that's the part that, as John alluded to, 81 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: we're going to see on Saturday, guys running and running fast. 82 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. And you can't really change a culture without changing 83 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: the people and some of that as players. So I 84 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: do think you're seeing that. I think the number is 85 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: twenty nine rookies last time I counted, I think there 86 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: were twenty two free agents by the time they finished. 87 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: And I think The intriguing thing is James Gladstone. I 88 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: think he alluded to it. To the draft, they clearly 89 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 3: left spots. Their roster was a little smaller after free 90 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: agency going into the draft. That maybe would have been 91 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: usual a lot of teams sort of wait, see what 92 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 3: they draft, then they release guys. The Jaguars were able 93 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 3: to sort of just we're gonna leave space. They knew 94 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: what positions were likely. So this has been a plan 95 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: from day one. And of course there's transition because you're 96 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: changing culture. 97 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: I was at an event with James last night and 98 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: he was asked this very question about undrafted rookies and 99 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,119 Speaker 2: filling the roster with rookies and there being a chance, 100 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: and he went back to a year, probably three years 101 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: ago in Los Angeles where they had forty six players 102 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: under contract on draft weekend and they filled in the 103 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: gaps with rookie free agents using their method, their DNA, 104 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: as he alluded to time and again. And you've seen 105 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: what they've done the last couple of years, and of 106 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: course they made a playoff run last year, so it 107 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: clearly has worked for them, and that's what they're setting 108 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: about to do here. 109 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: So hope it works. Just as well in Jacksonville. Say 110 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: with us here on jag Zam, we're going to go 111 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: over some of that roster construction after the break. Jag 112 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: Dam today brought to you by Fresh from Florida. It's 113 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: always in season. 114 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: This score that, this score that. 115 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to jack Exam today. We're gonna have rookie 116 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: mini camp at the end of the week. Voluntary workouts 117 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: still have been going on for a while and Brian 118 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: don't have the exact number count, but it's pretty good 119 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: turnout so far. 120 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 2: That generally happens in a year where you get a 121 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: brand new coaching staff. Guys want to come in and 122 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: take advantage of the opportunity to get ahead before OTAs, 123 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: plus the excitement and energy level with a new young staff. 124 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: It can't hurt. 125 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: Well, it almost always happens in Florida anyway, as Brian 126 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: alluded to with the new staff and frankly with this bunch. Look, 127 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 3: they're voluntary, but I can list maybe six seven guys 128 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 3: who I know will start. I can't listen any more 129 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 3: than that, So I'm sure there is a little bit 130 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: of a psychological thing. If you're competing, even for an 131 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: offensive line position, might be a good idea to get there, 132 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 3: and I be in front of the coaches, even though 133 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: the coaches can't say do anything yet. 134 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I think especially if you're talking about an 135 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: off line position, because that's a group that's inder great scrutiny, 136 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: and they brought in a bunch of players and drafted 137 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: some as well. And I don't think either of the tackles, 138 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: either Walker Little or Anton Harrison, has distinguished himself enough 139 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: to be clear of competition. So I think that group 140 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: in particular is going to be under some scrutiny. 141 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about a couple of things when 142 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: we talk about competition and what we're looking at in 143 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: terms of roster construction. On the defense, we saw some additions. 144 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: I think at this point we've seen most of what 145 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: they're going to do for the roster. Maybe a free 146 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: agent here or there. But where's your concern lie on 147 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the football. 148 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: Obviously, there was. 149 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: A lot of breakdowns in the secondary last year, not 150 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: a ton of push from the defensive line, which one 151 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: of those is a focus you think needs to be 152 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: this offseason to be better next season. 153 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: Like safety, I mean, we saw so many big plays 154 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: down the middle last year and I realized and Francisco 155 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: had a poor year and he's now in New York. 156 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: But john it seemed, especially when Dewey Wingard was down, 157 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: that they just didn't have any answers. Antonio Johnson did 158 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: not rise to the occasion, at least not in that 159 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: scheme last year, despite at the end of the year 160 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: prior showing a lot of skill. It just seemed like 161 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: they had no solutions at safety whatsoever. I know they've 162 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: addressed that both in free agency and the draft, but 163 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: that's the area, the middle of the field that I'm 164 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: most concerned about. 165 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: Well, I'm so little concerned at corner. You know, Travis 166 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: Hunter is a good I mean, obviously an incredible ad. 167 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: I believe Jordan Lewis will go outside some and Travis 168 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: Hunter will play there. I still want to see what 169 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: that looks like. Although I think they think they or 170 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: they have addressed corner and secondary, I still wonder if 171 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 3: some defensive line stuff isn't still to come. I think 172 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 3: you could still see them add edge tackle whatever. I'm 173 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: not sure they're done there. In terms of veterans, you know. 174 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: For his sake, I hope that Mason Smith is working 175 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: his butt off. I mean, there's so much, there's so 176 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: much being placed on his shoulders. You know, a second 177 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 2: round pick a year ago, a guy with immense potential, 178 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 2: and if he's right, if he's good, kai, I mean, 179 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: they've got a major issue in the middle of their 180 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: defense solved. But if he's not and he's a disappointment, 181 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 2: then they've got an issue that they're gonna deal with 182 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: all season long. 183 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: I think the big thing there is they would love 184 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 3: him to be what the last regime drafted him as, 185 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: because I think that gives you what you know is 186 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: gonna be for twenty six and twenty seven. If I'm 187 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: getting the years right after this, it's hard to see 188 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: Eric Armstead being here after this year. So they would 189 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: love to have Mason Smith moving in ascending Mason missing 190 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: me a big part of rotation this year, but to 191 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: be the guy in there, Boy, would that be something 192 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: they wouldn't have to address in the draft in a 193 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 3: premium area. 194 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: Again, let's switch to the offensive line. Obviously, we talked 195 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: a ton about the additions they've made to that room, 196 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: how different it's gonna look. We know there'll be at 197 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: least two new starters just by way of Mitch Morse's 198 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: retirement and Brandon Sheriff not being here anymore. So center 199 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: and right guard will be different this year, but there'll 200 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: be more than two new starters to this offensive line 201 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: this year. 202 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: John will yeah, and I couldn't tell you which one, Brian, 203 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: But I think I mean every position and even the 204 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: guys they brought in are competing. But left tackle, right 205 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 3: guard is absolutely a competition with Wyatt Mile. I'm coming 206 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: in to push as I'm sorry, I've got that left 207 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: guard right. But the reason I guess I said it 208 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: that way, I don't know that there's a position that 209 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: I would bet my house where I know the starter. 210 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: I think it'll be little. You know, the guys were 211 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: sort of projecting, but I bet I don't bet one 212 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: hundred percent if I picked it right now. I think 213 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: the competition is that real. 214 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: Well, I think that the two guys we talked about 215 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: in the outside both have a leg up because they're 216 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: the most athletic, they're the most capable guys. But because 217 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: this new coaching staff does things so differently, I wouldn't 218 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: put it past anybody to be well. I even mentioned 219 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: to somebody, well, certainly Hainsy the sentiment that they bring 220 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: in from Tampa. He knows the coach, he knows the scheme. 221 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: And I said, somebody say, don't bet on it, right, 222 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 2: I mean, he's gotta go earn it. So yeah, I 223 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 2: mean there's some guys that are probable that you think 224 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: they just make sense. But the offensive line is going 225 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: to be the storyline of training camp beyond the quarterback 226 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: in Travis. 227 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 228 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: Now let's turn our focus to the running back room. 229 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: Another crowded room when we look at two editions from 230 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: the rookie class, plus obviously undesignated free agents as well. 231 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: But looking at that room, who do we think will 232 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: have at the end of the season the most cares 233 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: for the team? 234 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 3: Tooting will by the end, I just think they drafted 235 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: him to give them that explosiveness. I'll kind of pull 236 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: back on that a little bit. Will you have the 237 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: most carries? I think so? Will he have the most impact? 238 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: Will he be the guy you're talking about the most? 239 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 3: I think I'd be surprised if he wasn't, because of 240 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: how they see him fitting. And it's not out of 241 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: the question that he starts. 242 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: He's there, Bucky Irving, you know, he's the guy that 243 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: comes in as a rookie and they believe can transform 244 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: the way the running game works. I think more interesting 245 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: is who's going to have the second most I mean, 246 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: is Travis Etn going to be a part of the 247 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: running back rotation or is he going to be more 248 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: of an offensive weapon, a guy that they line up 249 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: in the slot they move around, more of a third 250 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: down back. And we talked last week about the opportunity, 251 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: a distinct one that exists for Travis in that role. 252 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: I think Tank is going to be the guy who 253 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: has the second most carries. 254 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and don't sleep on Lequent Allen, Yes, seventh round pick. 255 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: I'd be very surprised if he's not a factor. So 256 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 3: it's as much as we talk about the offensive line, 257 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: it sort of feels from outside like, well, Tank Bagsby 258 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: and Travis Atn have been the guys to sort of default. 259 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: Not at all. This is everything's on the table wide receiver. 260 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: You feel really good about knowing the three, and then 261 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 3: Parker Washington is the fourth that feels right. Quarterback feels right. 262 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: Beyond that, it's going to be interesting to see how 263 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 3: roles play out. 264 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: I think any order, I would believe you at this point. 265 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure, but that's what makes it fun. 266 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Stay with us. We'll talk a little bit more about 267 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: what's coming up to the rest of the week. Move 268 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: the freight, Move the freight. Magellan Transport voted the coolest 269 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 1: office space in Jacksonville. Apply online at Magellanlogistics dot com. 270 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: John Os're so kind to answer all the fanned questions 271 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: every day as you do. 272 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 3: So we're going this is sort of a part of me, 273 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: really is that's one. 274 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: Of the top the scriptures I would use. Yeah, and 275 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: fashionable and funny. 276 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: Wow, keep going, you'll. 277 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: Hit one, all right, let's do. Bill from Hawthorn Woods, 278 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: Illinois says any insight on potential discussions to bring the 279 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: NFL Draft to Jacksonville after stadium completion, Green Bay worked, 280 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: so I have to believe that jack could support. 281 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: It as well, Right, think more about you know, if 282 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: there's discussions. I haven't heard, you know, any official, but 283 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: I would be very surprised if it's not a thing 284 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: that they you know, not only one get it's a fit. 285 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: It's a lever that the league uses for the non 286 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: Super Bowl cities, right, I mean, there's like nine cities 287 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: that are going to host the Super Bowl all across 288 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: the South into California, but places like Green Bay. When 289 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: they completed Title Town, which was a public private partnership 290 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: sort of like we're seeing out here. Green Bay was 291 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: given the opportunity to host the Draft. They use it suites, stadiums, 292 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: these sorts of things. And my guess is that the 293 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: reason it's going to Washington in twenty twenty seven is 294 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: because they've got the deal done for the new stadium there. 295 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: I can't imagine that when the Commissioner came down and 296 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: met with the mayor when they were talking about the 297 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: stadium two years ago, that this was not on the table. 298 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: And I believe you'll see it here. They'll probably give 299 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: the stadium a year or two for everything to finish 300 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: up construction wise, and to work their way through the 301 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: punch list. But I would guess by twenty thirty Jacksonville 302 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: will be in the middle of the conversation. And it's 303 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: worth noting when they first moved it from New York 304 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: and took it to Chicago back in twenty fifteen, it 305 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: was a very simple affair. They had a setting a 306 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: grant park with a stage with the team tables, and 307 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: now it's become like a Super Bowl. I mean, it 308 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: stretches and it just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 309 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: So they may want to give it a couple more 310 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: years to make sure that the hotels and the infrastructure 311 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: are in place here. But I believe you'll see it 312 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: here twenty thirty, twenty thirty one. 313 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: But you've been at the last couple drafts, and it 314 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: can smaller market. 315 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: Obviously, green Bay did it right. Green Bay did Nashville. 316 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: It was. It started in Chicago and it was simple, 317 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: and then it went to Philadelphia and they closed up 318 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: the Ben Franklin Parkway and made it a bit bigger, 319 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: and then Nashville. Well, then went to Dallas. It was 320 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: in the stadium. Then Nashville took it a different level. 321 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: I mean they took Broadway all the way down. Uh, 322 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: it went to Vegas. Vegas is Vegas. Cleveland didn't do 323 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: much with it. Kansas City did a big deal on 324 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: the on the lawn in front of the Union Station 325 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: at the Liberty Memorial. Detroit did it in Cadillac Square. 326 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: Green Bay was completely different. They did it around the stadium. 327 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: So I think it'll be an interesting mix. I'm interested 328 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: to see you know when they start talking about this, 329 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: how they do it, because I would imagine they'd want 330 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: something at the beach, they'd want something downtown here, they'd 331 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: want to blow it up, so to speak. Jacksonville can 332 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: absolutely do it. They just need more here downtown, which 333 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: is what they're working on right now. 334 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: That's the plan. I will be very happy with the 335 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: traffic that weekend. R I'm used to being able to 336 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: get right in and get and get out. 337 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be taking a shuttle somewhere. That's that's the 338 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: way it works. No, you'll tell you you'll have Green Bay. 339 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: Nobody got anywhere near it. It's become a Level one 340 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: national security event to tell you what the draft has become. 341 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: So absolutely all right, John. Another one, Steve from Nashville, said, 342 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: you have probably covered enough region changes regime changes in 343 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: the NFL to know if this one feels any different 344 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: than all the rest. But those I feel different so far. 345 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 3: Well, I think they all sort of feel different in 346 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: different ways. To give an awful answer, but I think 347 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: when I answered the question, I think what he's looking 348 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: for is does this feel more right? I think the 349 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: uniqueness about this one is the transparency that they're acting 350 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: with and it's important to all of them to bring 351 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 3: the fans into the experience and Brian, it's it's hard 352 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: to put it into words, but there is a common sense, 353 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: especially with Piselli and Gladstone, who've gotten to know a 354 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 3: little bit better than I have Liam, but I think 355 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: they all share it this. They look at something and think, 356 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: is that the right way to do it? Yeah, okay, 357 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 3: let's do it that. You know, that sounds very easy, 358 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: but so many regimes you've been around sort of try 359 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: to overcomplicate things. So overall, the thing I'm encouraged about 360 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: is the communication ability between Gladstone to sell and Liam 361 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 3: Cohne to be on the same page. I wish I 362 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: could describe it better, but I have great faith in 363 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 3: that as moving the organization in the right direction. 364 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: Well, I mentioned earlier, I was at an event with 365 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: all three of them last night, and I'm a big 366 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: body language guy. I kind of watched that and so 367 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 2: I was sitting in one stool at the end, and 368 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: then the three of them were together. It's distinct, Yeah, 369 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 2: I mean they finish each other's sentences. They kind of 370 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: look at each other. They've been together nine weeks for 371 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: goodness sakes, and yet it's very clear that they have 372 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: developed a strong cohesive bond between the three of them. 373 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: If I could put it into words, I would say 374 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: the transparency is the issue. I think people have seen 375 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: the clip of Tony and James walking on the practice 376 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: field and talking about the move. You realize they let 377 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 2: them shoot that weeks in advance, when very few people knew. 378 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 2: The level of trust that is in this organization right 379 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: now has never never been seen before, which goes to 380 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: show you that they are they are trying hard to 381 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: bring the fans into the building as much as they can. Well, 382 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: that's never happened before either. It's it's unique, it's remarkable. 383 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: Choose your adjective. We've been excited about regime changes before, 384 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: and there have been reason to be excited about regime 385 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: changes before, but there's never been anything like this. 386 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: And there's also a combination. Look, you got to win 387 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: and Trevor's got to improve. That's the base is there. 388 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 3: But there is a combination of boldness and confidence. It's impressive. 389 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 3: And as soon as I say that, I hear people saying, 390 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: whether he can be bold and confident on you want? 391 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: What if they're just too cocky. I don't. I don't 392 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: sinse that. I think it's it's a boldness based on 393 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 3: we know what we're doing. We've seen this operate before, 394 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: and we have to be the changes organization, so there's 395 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: never any guarantees in life or in the NFL. But 396 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: I feel better about this than anything I've I have 397 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: felt probably since I've been back in twenty eleven. And well, 398 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: I hope I'm right. I'm enthusiastic about it. I'm an 399 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 3: old cynical hack so I always have you know, I 400 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: always pull back on everything. But I think these guys 401 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: got to go in the right direction. 402 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: I'm not cynical. I tend to be more optimistic, but 403 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: I'll take you this. I go all the way back 404 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: to the beginning of this franchise, and other than Kauughlin, 405 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: I have not been as excited about what I'm seeing 406 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: going back thirty one years. That just doesn't exist. 407 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: John. 408 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: I'm a little cautious as well, just because of all 409 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: the new things. We never really know what we're going 410 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: to get. But when I talk about that boldness and 411 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: you talk about that boldness, a lot of it comes 412 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: from understanding how they want to operate in the sense 413 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: where a lot of people go through the motions. Sometimes 414 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: we talk about, oh, this is the way it's done, 415 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: and this is how you do it, you know, with 416 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: thirty thirty visit, you do whatever, and they're like, no, 417 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: this is how I want to do it. And whether 418 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: that's right or wrong, they live with those consequences, but 419 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: they understand how they want to do things and they're 420 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: not just going along with status quo. 421 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's a really good point when, 422 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: for instance, it's very unusual not to do the thirty visits. 423 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: It's a little unusual not to talk to players face 424 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 3: to face. I've talked to some assistance of these guys, 425 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: and the Jaguars really haven't talked to some of the 426 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: assistants you'd usually talk to. But you could tell by 427 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 3: the draft they're drilling down and they're finding out about 428 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 3: the guys that they want. And then when you talk 429 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: to James Gladstone about it, there are reasons and sound 430 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 3: reasons when they do different things. It's not just for 431 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 3: the sake of being bowler, sake of this or sake 432 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 3: of that, so they think about it a little differently. 433 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: But the different way of thinking is still rooted in 434 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: very sound football principles. 435 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: Love it all right. Question is gonna be robed from Duval? 436 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: And he says, would it makes sense to just give 437 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter a specific player to cover when he's on defense? 438 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: Time management seems pretty mind bogging unless they find a 439 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: way to simplify the game plan on defense, saying you 440 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: have this number seems pretty simple. Might be good enough 441 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: to trace some really good players. 442 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that you want to. Hey, you're 443 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: gonna play offense in defense and you're gonna take away 444 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: the best receiver on the other team, and we're gonna 445 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: carve you a bust right now, like slightly tall task. 446 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 3: Let him earn that role. I think people are because 447 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: it's not necessarily out there and they haven't seen it yet. Yes, 448 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: the time management is going to be a challenge, Ryan, 449 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: but they haven't planned for it. And it's basically, he's 450 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: gonna work seventy five percent of the time on offense, 451 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: twenty five on defense, and they're gonna give him enough 452 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: packages on defense to understand on that day. So that's 453 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 3: the plan. And I know people say, well, what about this, 454 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: what about this? What about this? That's what they're going 455 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: to do and I think if if they need to 456 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 3: tweak that as you go forward, they will. But that's 457 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 3: the plan start now, so it's not all that mind 458 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 3: boggling to figure out it's gonna. 459 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: Well, that's the key is it's it's gonna be work 460 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: in progress, right. I mean, they're gonna work in the 461 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: extra meeting time for him with the offensive and defensive 462 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: coordinators throughout the course of the day. They're going to 463 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: figure out what he's able to do. And Liam said 464 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 2: it the other evening that you've got to have him 465 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: working extra on his own outside of the building. So 466 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna figure out. They're gonna have a plan, 467 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: and they're gonna figure out what he can do and 468 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: what he's willing to do, and they're going to work 469 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: their way through it and they'll make adjustments. I don't 470 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: think you can make a Harden. We haven't seen this 471 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: since the sixties. We haven't seen it in an offensive 472 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: defensive you know what I mean. We just haven't seen it. 473 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: So they're gonna have to give him a lot of 474 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: room to grow and then reined in where they need to. 475 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: I think it's a good point you made there's a students. 476 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: My understanding is they were rased. 477 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: I've been told that as well. 478 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: But the students like me did enough to get by 479 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: during the week. Travis Hunter will need to be an 480 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 3: a student. He'll need to be the guy that I 481 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: looked at when he's going to the library and what 482 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: are you doing. He'll need to be that sort of 483 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: motivated to make this work, because that's the sort of 484 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: mental dedication it'll take. He wants to do this, so 485 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: that's what he'll do. They think you will, all right, 486 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 3: stay with us. 487 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: We can. We will tell you the schedule for the 488 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: rest of the week and what you can expect to 489 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: hear and from. 490 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: Whom that went fast. That went fast. 491 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 4: So I do hope that maybe, now, reflecting on the 492 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: warp speed of two months, life doesn't continue to go 493 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 4: that faster, that I get to pause a. 494 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: Little bit more. I think. 495 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 4: So much this day is about pressing the fast forward. 496 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 4: But and I'll look to try as often as I 497 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 4: can to press the pause button and just root myself. 498 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 4: I think I'll be mindful of that for sure. 499 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: Has been a whirlwind two months for the start of 500 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: things for a general manager, James Gladstone, who was on 501 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: the Ozone podcast, and if you haven't checked it out, 502 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: I highly recommend it because we finally got a little 503 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: bit of a toned down version. But he's not going 504 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: at one hundred miles an hour, so it can kind 505 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: of reflect a little bit. With you, John, I thought 506 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: it was an enlightening conversation. 507 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we talked. It was a little longer 508 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 3: than the usual of the Zone podcast, and as you 509 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: can imagine, Ryan I could have gone two hours. It 510 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: was fascinating to talk to him. We didn't get super 511 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: super deep into the details of the draft because frankly, 512 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: that's going to be seen in the hunt, so we 513 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 3: talked more about sort of him a little bit. And 514 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 3: he's a very interesting guy. And I would recommend anybody 515 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: who wants to understand sort of how this is moving 516 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 3: the direction, why it's so easy to trust in this 517 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 3: leadership group, I would recommend watching it was. 518 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun, Tony, Butshelley told me 519 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: a story about their interview with him. It was four 520 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: hours long and said that for the first two hours 521 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: they didn't even talk football, So I mean it's yeah, 522 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: he's a fascinating guy and he's a deep thinker, and 523 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: he's fun to listen to. 524 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: And I could see I mean, if you're doing an 525 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 3: interview process and you get to the end, I could 526 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: easily see how when they were all done, they were 527 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 3: they got to the point where they were hoping they 528 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 3: would get him. He's that sort that I would imagine 529 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 3: once everything sort of filtered out and they were sitting 530 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: around the room, it was a pretty easy decision. We 531 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: got to go get this guy. So I really I'm 532 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: really happy he's here, and I would be very very 533 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 3: surprised if he's not successful. And by nature, the you know, extension, 534 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: the organization are good. 535 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about this week where manicamp 536 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: kicks off Friday, I believe is the first day on 537 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: the field. They'll get here on Thursday, John, and then 538 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: we'll get to talk and see all of them on Saturday. 539 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's as we talked about the top of 540 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 3: the show, the theme around here until it's not is the 541 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: Travis Hunter experience. I mean it's and I think you 542 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: always get a little worried and say that about a rookie. 543 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 3: You know, he's the theme. But from everything you hear, 544 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: you can handle it. You guys have been around him 545 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: little more than I have. I've had a chance to 546 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 3: sit out and talk with him, you guys have. It 547 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: seems like this is a guy who understands that's what 548 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: it is, but can walk a humble walk through that 549 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: if you will. 550 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: He's a superstar. This franchise has never had that. Never 551 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could say Trevor. They've they've 552 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: had big players before, I mean Fred and Jimmy, but 553 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: that was in an era where he had a different 554 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: meaning altogether. Now, in the social media world, his reach 555 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: is unbelievable, So I fully expect there to be a 556 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: circus with this guy waiting. He put his feet on 557 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: the ground in London, for goodness sakes. I mean, he's he's. 558 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: Got that sort of appeal and it's confidence, not arrogance, 559 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: which is also kind of cool to see it Nowaday 560 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: and Age, because obviously you want to have belief in 561 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: yourself without coming across that way, and as talented as 562 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: he is, you assume that could kind of come across 563 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: in a you know, braggadocious way. But you know it's 564 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: worth saying very quiet confidence as well. 565 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: Having met him for the first time as you did this, 566 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: that Draft weekend. I kind of expected there to be 567 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: a little of that, I think, especially with the you know, 568 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: he says Dean Sanders is a father figure to him, Right, 569 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: So I kind of I figured there'd be at least 570 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: a touch of it. I sensed nothing. Nothing in his 571 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: body language, nothing in his verbal nothing. He just seems 572 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: to me to be a unicorn. 573 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: Right. I would be interested if ar I get a 574 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,239 Speaker 3: chance to meet some of the people who influenced him 575 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: growing up, his fam because for him to be as 576 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: humble as he appears with being a tik Took, it's 577 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: still TikTok rights that were the cool kids. That for 578 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 3: him to be as big as a star on a 579 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: level as he is and to walk with the humility 580 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 3: that he evidently does, it's tough. Uh So, I'm excited 581 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: about seeing this the t h E the Travis Hunter experience. 582 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: Oh I love that we are too. We'll get to 583 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: see a sneak peek of it this weekend for Minikimp 584 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: and we'll tell you all about it next week here 585 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: on jack Zam. Have a good one,