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Speaker 2: Jacob Cooper speaks in lectures on wisdom and consciousness, offering
Speaker 2: meditation and mindfulness seminars to help others find purpose overcoming
Speaker 2: fears of life after death. As a clinical social worker,
Speaker 2: Reiki Master, certified hypnotherapists specializing in past life regression, Jacob's
Speaker 2: uses his extensive personal and professional experience to empower one
Speaker 2: soul at a time. A couple of his books include
Speaker 2: Life After Breath and The Wisdom of Jacob's Ladder. Jacob,
Speaker 2: welcome back. Have you been?
Speaker 3: Hey George, I've been terrific. How have you been? It's
Speaker 3: great to connect with you again.
Speaker 2: You too. A whole year went by pretty darn fast.
Speaker 3: And then time is just a funny thing, you know,
Speaker 3: It really just flies by. It really does.
Speaker 2: For the benefit of those who did not hear you
Speaker 2: a year ago with us, tell us about this near
Speaker 2: the experience you had. What happened?
Speaker 3: I had a condition called pertessis otherwise known as whipping coughs,
Speaker 3: and at just the young age of three years old,
Speaker 3: I went to a playground and as a result of
Speaker 3: whipping cough I suffocated and all parts of my body
Speaker 3: and my brain just were deprived of oxygen and they
Speaker 3: just shut down and stopped working. And once my body
Speaker 3: and brain began to shut down and my entire physical
Speaker 3: breath was taken, there was this whole other breath that
Speaker 3: I was able to receive, which I now know is
Speaker 3: called the breath of eternity, the breath of creation. And
Speaker 3: I just surrendered to this and at a full blown
Speaker 3: crossing over experience or neous experience that included the awareness
Speaker 3: of angels, spirit guides, past lives, the lives that I
Speaker 3: would be doing, awareness of all that there is was
Speaker 3: will be in the source of creative life itself, which
Speaker 3: many depict does God or the universe, whatever your terminology
Speaker 3: for it is. But it was a profound near death
Speaker 3: experience and foblone crossing over experience. And with many near
Speaker 3: death experiencers, I would probably say the majority are told,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not your time, you have more maybe
Speaker 3: work to do. This near death experience, there was freedom
Speaker 3: as to what I would do, you know, staying on
Speaker 3: the other side or continuing my life, and I just
Speaker 3: simply asked, you know, who am I, Why am I here?
Speaker 3: What am I meant to do in this life, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden I was showing pictures of myself
Speaker 3: and images of what I would be doing in this
Speaker 3: life and helping others out and sharing this message, and
Speaker 3: that to me was the tipping point of why I'm
Speaker 3: here today is to share this message that you know,
Speaker 3: we do go on, we are eternal, we are infinite,
Speaker 3: and life does not stop at death, but it begins anew.
Speaker 3: And so I am here. But I love sharing my story.
Speaker 3: I speak throughout the world, and you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: a profound experience that I've been able to really find
Speaker 3: meaning and beauty behind it, although for a while it's
Speaker 3: certainly felt like more of a burden than a blessing.
Speaker 2: Really, And at that young age, how did you remember
Speaker 2: all this, Jacob?
Speaker 3: There's a plus, There's a plusor of avenues that I
Speaker 3: really pinpoint as to that's the why I remember this.
Speaker 3: But the first thing is certainly trauma. You know, I
Speaker 3: work in the mental health field now, and I could
Speaker 3: say how strong an imprint trauma can have. I mean,
Speaker 3: for instance, you know there's the clients that I and
Speaker 3: colleagues have worked with where you know, we've asked you know,
Speaker 3: even young kids to draw pictures of a traumatic event
Speaker 3: and that's very specific what happened to them. And you know,
Speaker 3: this has happened to me in other colleagues where we've
Speaker 3: lost the picture and we just kind of got upset, like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I can't find this picture. And then
Speaker 3: the client at a young age and would be able
Speaker 3: to depict exactly what happened to them when we've been
Speaker 3: able to find that picture. And the point I'm trying
Speaker 3: to make is trauma has an undeniable imprint on the
Speaker 3: brain and there's a memory. There's also a disassociative component,
Speaker 3: which is protective mechanism that people have where they push
Speaker 3: away that trauma. But even many your death experiencers who
Speaker 3: might forget their near death experience, we'll see people like
Speaker 3: myself as a hypno therapist and be able to ask
Speaker 3: full recollection. So I think trauma was a gift behind
Speaker 3: the ability to rememb combined with the fact that this
Speaker 3: was something that went far beyond my brain my body,
Speaker 3: and this is a memory really stored within deeper than
Speaker 3: my subconscious mind. So there's a lot of avenues to
Speaker 3: point to it, but certainly something that's never left with
Speaker 3: me since that day in September of nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 2: It is truly remarkable that you kept this all these years,
Speaker 2: this knowledge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's well. It was certainly what led to
Speaker 3: a very complex childhood. I remember very little about my childhood,
Speaker 3: but coming back to my preschool, I just remembered this
Speaker 3: liver of light that was going through my brain, which
Speaker 3: new death experienced researchers have really had congruencies what I
Speaker 3: experience to point that the brain is not the producer
Speaker 3: of life, but rather just the filter of it. And
Speaker 3: when my brain, you know, shut down, that's when the
Speaker 3: proverbial saying that says, you know, when my brain snapped
Speaker 3: in half, that's when God came in. And you know,
Speaker 3: that literally happened to me. But my brain was very
Speaker 3: much changed. And this is a TBI that I experienced.
Speaker 3: But I just experienced the liver of light, and from
Speaker 3: this liver of light, I had premonitions, hiding intuitions, I
Speaker 3: had interdimensional communication. But the hard part was and the
Speaker 3: isolating part was I learned very quickly that this was
Speaker 3: foreign to people around me, and so I kept it
Speaker 3: quite close to me, which is very common as a
Speaker 3: lot of near death experiencers where they'll have something so
Speaker 3: sacred or they'll know that it's something that others won't
Speaker 3: understand around themselves, so they'll keep it to themselves, rather
Speaker 3: than having others put down their experience, judge or experience
Speaker 3: to when they shut down their own experience themselves. So
Speaker 3: I kept it very very much close to myself for
Speaker 3: nearly two decades. It was when the first time I
Speaker 3: really started to become public with the near death experience.
Speaker 2: Would you say, Jacob, that this near death experience was
Speaker 2: the catalyst for where you are today?
Speaker 3: It not, as not only is just the catalyst, but
Speaker 3: it is my everything. You know, when I think of
Speaker 3: my new death experience, I think of just this ultimate
Speaker 3: gift that I have, and it was a gift that
Speaker 3: really showed me who we are while we're here. But
Speaker 3: more importantly, I was able to be given a second
Speaker 3: chance of life in this body. And so for myself
Speaker 3: and my work, you know, I see people who feel
Speaker 3: like they don't want to live anymore, or metaphorically they
Speaker 3: feel dead inside. And so my work in the mental
Speaker 3: health field and hypnosis as a healer, it's to try
Speaker 3: to get people to really tap into their own life
Speaker 3: force when they're feeling disconnected, and to give that back
Speaker 3: to other people and to empower others. And so given
Speaker 3: a gift, you could hold on to it. You know,
Speaker 3: there's givers and takers. But to me, I believe in
Speaker 3: giving back what a big, beautiful gift of life that
Speaker 3: I was given, and to allow people to remember that
Speaker 3: it is a gift to be here in this body
Speaker 3: and this life. Altho were on the surface, it could
Speaker 3: certainly feel quite the opposite during many on different points
Speaker 3: of their own journey.
Speaker 2: What do you remember, Jacob, in addition to what you've
Speaker 2: just said about this near death experience, were there angels involved,
Speaker 2: spirit guides, helpers, relatives who had passed on.
Speaker 3: That you might know, Yes, yes, and yes absolutely. I
Speaker 3: you know, we live with a box of reality that
Speaker 3: we see as such. And you know when I had
Speaker 3: my near death experience, what really most step to me
Speaker 3: while I was experiencing it was just how much we
Speaker 3: forget is around us at all times on this journey.
Speaker 3: And when I was able to see my two spirit
Speaker 3: guides with me during my new Gud's experiences, I call
Speaker 3: them the Guides, it was a profound reunion and I
Speaker 3: just remembered, My God, I couldn't believe that I forgot
Speaker 3: all the beauty that was accompanying me and all of us,
Speaker 3: all of our viewers here on this journey. And so
Speaker 3: I know I'll say this throughout the course of our conversation, probably,
Speaker 3: but one major takeaway that, if anything else I'd like
Speaker 3: viewers to remember, is there is so much around us
Speaker 3: at all times that maybe we may not be aware
Speaker 3: of the physical eye at all times, but there is
Speaker 3: so much around us. But the spirit guides to me
Speaker 3: are there with us before we get here, go there
Speaker 3: with us through every part of our lifetime, and they
Speaker 3: are just the innermost part of ourselves as we know it.
Speaker 3: They know everything about ourselves at our deepest core. But
Speaker 3: when I saw the guides, the analogy often has is,
Speaker 3: you know, imagine you had the most beautiful, you know,
Speaker 3: Hollywood celebrity crush, and you just think that that person
Speaker 3: is thousands of miles away, living in some ivory tower
Speaker 3: far away from you that you can never access. Now,
Speaker 3: imagine that by an infinite amount, but imagine that feeling
Speaker 3: is drawn towards you. So in other words, the admiration,
Speaker 3: the respect, the love, the infactuation, that you have with
Speaker 3: that being, that person that is directed towards you. And
Speaker 3: that's how our guides view us. They see us in
Speaker 3: such a level of love and beauty that we cannot
Speaker 3: ever really truly comprehend. And so the guides see us
Speaker 3: in such a different way than many times the judgments
Speaker 3: and the small versions that we hold of ours else.
Speaker 3: But the angels were floating literally right in front of
Speaker 3: me when my body was on the ground, lifeless and
Speaker 3: irresponsive to people who went to me to the playground
Speaker 3: on that day, and I just saw very young, youthful
Speaker 3: angels that were floating right in front of me. I
Speaker 3: could hear their sounds, I could see colors. But this
Speaker 3: goes beyond anything comparative to this reality, you know, George,
Speaker 3: Your death experiencers often point to the fact that we
Speaker 3: have nothing to compare the other side to, just in
Speaker 3: terms of a perspective of color. For instance, the colors
Speaker 3: that we have in our realm are really colors that
Speaker 3: are originated from the spectrum of the sun, and when
Speaker 3: you're on the other side, you're in a different realm,
Speaker 3: and so the colors over there aren't don't have a
Speaker 3: limit of bandwidth from the colors of the sun, they
Speaker 3: go further deeper, and so the colors, you know, you
Speaker 3: can't described in this reality because they have such a
Speaker 3: depth and beauty that go beyond anything of this reality.
Speaker 3: But yes, angels are around us at all times, sending healing,
Speaker 3: sending love, and that's what I experienced. And they had
Speaker 3: no different than the spirit guides. The angels had no
Speaker 3: distinct characteristics. They were very uniformal. They were just there
Speaker 3: to send healing, to send love, to send protection. And
Speaker 3: they're around us at all times, as well as my own,
Speaker 3: as you mentioned, soul family on the other side, which
Speaker 3: are members that we are connected to within this life
Speaker 3: and beyond. And it's almost kind of like a theater
Speaker 3: of life where we have different roles and different acts
Speaker 3: to play, but we're connected to a similar cru set
Speaker 3: throughout different incarnations. And that's a fascinating subject in itself,
Speaker 3: but gues to all those questions.
Speaker 2: These angels there to comfort you, Jacob. I mean, you
Speaker 2: were just a little guy when you went down. I
Speaker 2: would assume you were scared for a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Georgia, it was the most What I
Speaker 3: would say is I've never seen a bigger pendulum of
Speaker 3: swing of emotions from you know, and I don't know
Speaker 3: if you've experienced this there any viewers have experienced how
Speaker 3: scary it is to lose your breath, you know, and
Speaker 3: unless you're on a ventilator, I mean, the breath keeps
Speaker 3: us going, and it's.
Speaker 2: Got to be a horrible feeling.
Speaker 3: It was beyond traumatizing. I mean, the analogy that I
Speaker 3: often have is imagine you're drowning and there's nothing to
Speaker 3: hold on to, and you just keep on thinking deeper
Speaker 3: and deeper, and there's nothing you can do. And so
Speaker 3: you know, what did I do? Instead of I was
Speaker 3: struggling against this, I was resisting against this, but as
Speaker 3: we know, with all walks of life, what we resist persist,
Speaker 3: and so what I did was I just completely surrendered
Speaker 3: to what was happening. I recognized I had no control,
Speaker 3: and once I surrendered, I really was able to tap
Speaker 3: into this ultimate power that we're all connected to, this
Speaker 3: infinite breath, this breath that goes beyond our own human breath.
Speaker 3: And I've learned since you know, my own religion, Judaism,
Speaker 3: the word for spirit is translates to ruach, which means
Speaker 3: the wind or the breath of God and that is
Speaker 3: our creative force. And so for viewers who are might
Speaker 3: be struggling and certainly alcoholics anonymous you know, you know
Speaker 3: is congruence with this, But there is a great power
Speaker 3: of simply surrendering to the power that we all have
Speaker 3: inside of us and to stop the struggle recognize its
Speaker 3: surrendering is not a form of giving up, but a
Speaker 3: form of giving in to the deep inner power and
Speaker 3: divine spark that we all have. But yes, the angels
Speaker 3: are simply there to comfort not only me, but we.
Speaker 3: And this is certainly time that I hope to get into,
Speaker 3: which is the me consciousness versus the we consciousness, and
Speaker 3: different experiences in my life that have given me first
Speaker 3: and evidential awareness that we are all not just the me,
Speaker 3: but we are much connected to a much greater reality
Speaker 3: that involves the we.
Speaker 2: Jake up in your near death experience, do you witness
Speaker 2: others who have had near death experiences? Are they there
Speaker 2: next to you?
Speaker 3: That's a great question. I've heard other near death experiencers
Speaker 3: that have mentioned this. Uh to answer question, I didn't experience.
Speaker 3: I didn't have any other experiences that I that I
Speaker 3: was aware of at the moment certainly, you know, other
Speaker 3: near death experiences have had a pivotal impact in my
Speaker 3: life and has given me the strength and courage to
Speaker 3: become public with my message. Otherwise I've been quite ostracized.
Speaker 3: But no, I didn't. But what I did have was
Speaker 3: premonitions about my near death experience. And I just remember
Speaker 3: when I did have my near death experience, it just
Speaker 3: felt like deja vous, as if I've seen this before,
Speaker 3: and there was nothing I can do to stop what
Speaker 3: was to come. And so I write in my book
Speaker 3: that I had, you know, clear recollections of dreams the
Speaker 3: nights before of my ende of what was to come.
Speaker 3: But in terms of seeing the other near death experiencers
Speaker 3: when I had my ENDE, that didn't happen. Have you
Speaker 3: heard of such a phenomenon, George before, because I believe
Speaker 3: I have where people have had ner death experiences and
Speaker 3: they've seen others ye have had theirs, which is just phenomena.
Speaker 3: That is phenomenon. I don't know if you know of
Speaker 3: anyone specific, but that that's sploish my mind.
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