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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody into the s TOBBC Mortgage Studio. It is
Speaker 1: Monday here at the Star as we get ready to
Speaker 1: dive into the tough loss in Atlanta last night. Of course,
Speaker 1: always joined by Brian, Rob Mickey and and you guys
Speaker 1: have been studying this already. You see what happened here.
Speaker 1: But let's start first where everyone's pointing the fingers, Chas Green,
Speaker 1: Chas Green. What went wrong? We had faith in him.
Speaker 1: Tough day at the office, really tough day. I'll give
Speaker 1: him credit for this. He stood up in front of
Speaker 1: thirty people and put the whole game on his shoulder
Speaker 1: and that's big. Yeah, so I let the team down.
Speaker 1: I'll give him credit for that. So you run routes?
Speaker 1: No he didn't. Yeah, I would help. You're trying to
Speaker 1: get the ball out quick. It'd be nice to get
Speaker 1: people open if you're going to do that, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it, Yeah, it's not just him. No,
Speaker 1: welly all had a hand in it. They all had
Speaker 1: a hand in that. Absolutely. They had some plays where
Speaker 1: they wanted to get the ball out quicker. Yeah it
Speaker 1: didn't happen. Yeah. Um, either the routes weren't good or
Speaker 1: the quarterback didn't see it, that's true. Um. You know, look,
Speaker 1: there's only so many guys you can compensate for ye
Speaker 1: on a team. And that was kind of the mother
Speaker 1: load right there. And as I was writing, it's one
Speaker 1: thing to lose like four of the best players on
Speaker 1: your team. Clue the kicker there, Yes, okay, thank you,
Speaker 1: carry on, especially the kicker Tyrenzy and the kicker Pitterpole
Speaker 1: third segment. And also, um, we're not just talking about
Speaker 1: like four of the best guys on this team. We're
Speaker 1: talking about four of the best guys at their positioned
Speaker 1: in the league. And you know, I get the next
Speaker 1: man up and all that stuff. There's a reason why
Speaker 1: that guy's the next man up. He wasn't good enough
Speaker 1: to be there in the first place. See that's where
Speaker 1: I'm getting questions now about everybody's going, Well do they
Speaker 1: evaluate their backups well enough? Well, how do you replace
Speaker 1: all pro players? You know, you do it the best
Speaker 1: You can't. Yeah, and I'll say this about Chaz Green.
Speaker 1: We've seen Chad's Green play a lot better, really have
Speaker 1: you know, We've seen him started. They won games with
Speaker 1: Chads Green playing left tackle, you know, and go ahead,
Speaker 1: well you wrote about it last night. You made a
Speaker 1: great point. You haven't seen him start at left tackle
Speaker 1: or even started guard where Zeke wasn't in the game
Speaker 1: as well, where you're playing catch up and they're pinning
Speaker 1: their ears back and you know what's coming. Well, and yeah,
Speaker 1: but they had with Jonathan and Cooper being exposed like
Speaker 1: he was last night. They had four sacks in the
Speaker 1: first half and it was only ten to seven. I know,
Speaker 1: so you know, and but you can't have one position
Speaker 1: run your entire offense. I know they missed Zeke, I
Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, but you know they missed the ability
Speaker 1: to run the football. Well there's that, but they I mean,
Speaker 1: it is the balance. I mean we kind of all
Speaker 1: thought that maybe that coming into the game, that they
Speaker 1: would be able to have some success running the football.
Speaker 1: They got into some twenty one personnel, they got into
Speaker 1: twenty two personnel, they got in thirteen personnel. That kind
Speaker 1: of helped him in the second half. A little bit,
Speaker 1: but they really couldn't get anything going with with Alfred
Speaker 1: running the football. They couldn't get anything going with Rod Smith.
Speaker 1: I was asking for a you know, a physical back
Speaker 1: to run and there were a couple of times they
Speaker 1: handed him the ball and cuts that cuts that that
Speaker 1: Zeke would have made that generally run into a four
Speaker 1: or five yard game. We're you know that you don't
Speaker 1: get those cuts. He didn't. Yeah, and that and that's
Speaker 1: a problem. That's that's where that's where you know, when
Speaker 1: you talk about your offensive line and you know you're
Speaker 1: a bully to run the football. You know, if you
Speaker 1: if you block well enough, it's up to the back too.
Speaker 1: It's up to you back to read it the right way,
Speaker 1: make a cut and get what you can. Well, it
Speaker 1: was interesting, you know we always get to sit next
Speaker 1: to you know, in the home games, I get to
Speaker 1: sit next to Mickey, but most of the time on
Speaker 1: the road I sit next to Calvin Hill, who knows
Speaker 1: a thing or two about being a solid running back.
Speaker 1: And every time you would see Alfred, you say, you
Speaker 1: have to keep going, keep going, don't stop, don't let
Speaker 1: him tackle you. There. He was getting so frustrated. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you even heard him rob Oh yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just like, what is he doing? He's stopping. That was
Speaker 1: a frustrating first half for the Running Game. And Alfred's
Speaker 1: funny because we've talked about Chaz Alfred saying put this
Speaker 1: on me. He said the Running Game got going too
Speaker 1: late in the game, and you look at what they
Speaker 1: did in the first half. They tried to have some
Speaker 1: semblance of balance. I mean when they run eleven times
Speaker 1: for forty three yards, but it was all dack. It
Speaker 1: was dak mostly scra including a touchdown run. The two
Speaker 1: backs had seven carries for eight yards. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know what, they didn't do anything else. Atlanta didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: The total yards were exactly the same, The rushing yards
Speaker 1: were about exactly the same. After the first half was over.
Speaker 1: Where did they miss out then? Offensively? Other than if
Speaker 1: you know you could tell? Do you think how many
Speaker 1: points did you think they would give up in this game?
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be I think I predicted
Speaker 1: it was gonna be. I predicted Dallas to lose. I
Speaker 1: think it was twenty eight two. Yeah, I had Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought they could win. Can't remember exactly something like
Speaker 1: that yet, So ended up. What happened is you fall behind, sure,
Speaker 1: and now you're in big trouble. Yeah, right, right, you
Speaker 1: were hanging in there at ten seven, And the same
Speaker 1: thing happened in this game that happened last Sunday. Right,
Speaker 1: score at the end of the half, first possession, third quarter,
Speaker 1: score again and all of a sudden fourteen points. But
Speaker 1: even then, exact same thing. Even then the third quarter
Speaker 1: the killer. The Yeah, first drive of the second half,
Speaker 1: Atlanta takes a seventeen seven league, right, but you're still
Speaker 1: you can still be balanced, and they got the running
Speaker 1: game going. In that first drive of the second half,
Speaker 1: more starts ripping off runs. You find yourself of the
Speaker 1: twelve yard line. Than what happens, get sacked, the sack,
Speaker 1: seven yard loss minus run, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I think it's like third nineteen and you miss a
Speaker 1: field goal which is from thirty eight yards, which is
Speaker 1: just a backbreaker because it's a ten point swing. Atlantic
Speaker 1: goes down their scores again, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Now you're running games out the window. So there's other things.
Speaker 1: It's not just the sacks, right, No, no, that's what
Speaker 1: we're trying to say. But the sack hurt that possession.
Speaker 1: It did, but if kicked the field goal, sure right,
Speaker 1: I went back and looked. So the last time other
Speaker 1: than a block that they missed the field goal less
Speaker 1: than forty yards was the third game of the twenty
Speaker 1: thirteen season. So wow, Bailey and new gentlemen. So that
Speaker 1: point went sixty three of sixty three, sixty three of
Speaker 1: sixty three. I steal that from a column tomorrow and
Speaker 1: go ahead, I already used today. There you go. But
Speaker 1: and then he misses, Yeah, hits the upright. He never
Speaker 1: pushes the ball to the right. It always hooks to
Speaker 1: the left, you know. And so yeah, those left hashes
Speaker 1: aren't good for him. Seventeen ten. Okay, gives you a chance, though,
Speaker 1: doesn't it. Right, It gives you a little bit of
Speaker 1: an emotional lift. Maybe your defense plays better knowing it's
Speaker 1: a no one score game. It's not well, Shawn Lee
Speaker 1: was not in the game. Do you realize what's happened
Speaker 1: with Shawn Lee out of the game. Oh no, we understand.
Speaker 1: I've got a numbers for you if you want him.
Speaker 1: And they can't give him too. I can't stop anybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: give us the numbers. They stopped when when Shawn Lee
Speaker 1: went out of the game. That possession, they held him
Speaker 1: to a field goal. I think they punted, didn't they. Oh,
Speaker 1: it was a fifty fifty field goal. And then the
Speaker 1: next possession because they punted down to the two yard line,
Speaker 1: they stopped him and then it was touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,
Speaker 1: field goal. Yeah, he went out with he went out.
Speaker 1: The play went out on first and ten. The Atlanta
Speaker 1: forty like twelve minutes gone in the first first tree
Speaker 1: one quarter, the first quarter. That's the play he got
Speaker 1: hurt in. Yeah, okay, so thank you for that. I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at the run defense with Sean in the
Speaker 1: game without him. The two games he missed so far
Speaker 1: this season, Rams Packers sixty four gave up an average
Speaker 1: one sixty four and his six full starts, and I'm
Speaker 1: counting the Arizona game where he got hurt in like
Speaker 1: the last two minutes with the game already decided, gave
Speaker 1: up eighty point three yards per game on the ground.
Speaker 1: Big difference there. You mentioned that play where he got hurt.
Speaker 1: They had a minus four run by Coleman. At that point,
Speaker 1: Atlanta had rushed four times for minus two yards. They
Speaker 1: finished with thirty carries for one thirty four four point
Speaker 1: five ACCR and no DeVonta Freeman. Yeah, and he's out
Speaker 1: with a concussion, so there's no question just run defense,
Speaker 1: specifically the impact he has when he's in the game.
Speaker 1: So I understand Zeke, but Tyring and Sean Lee they
Speaker 1: got no replacements for him. Bryan always says, though nobody
Speaker 1: feels sorry for him. Oh, I'm not. I'm not making excuses.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what happened. That's reality, right, That
Speaker 1: is reality though, that you're just not good enough. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean shot, but let meybe. Let's be honest here though.
Speaker 1: Really it correct me if I'm wrong. Did we Did
Speaker 1: you feel like going into the game that Chaz Green
Speaker 1: was gonna be the liability? No? I thought he could
Speaker 1: hang in there. I was. I'm not sure. I think
Speaker 1: the coaches thought the same thing. What happened to him?
Speaker 1: Because he looked like he was playing in quicksand he
Speaker 1: spoke to his technique and Brian, yeah, but he wasn't
Speaker 1: his feet, he said, yeah, he said, It's just true.
Speaker 1: He got caught leaning, he got caught off balance. He
Speaker 1: knew it. He got away from his technique. That if
Speaker 1: you want to break it down, That's what he said.
Speaker 1: But he looked slow. Do you think it was too
Speaker 1: differ cool for him this season? Kind of trying to
Speaker 1: handle the guard no things? At first, they wrapped him.
Speaker 1: They rapped him all week at tackle, playing tackle. I
Speaker 1: just don't know why. Yeah, since Cooper's been playing guard,
Speaker 1: he hasn't taken any snaps a guard. It's not like
Speaker 1: he just jumped into it last week. I think where
Speaker 1: they missed Zeke most is kind of what we talked
Speaker 1: about late last week. It was like Atlanta wasn't going
Speaker 1: to fear the running game without him, no, and so
Speaker 1: they gambled with that wide nine look on the Cowboys
Speaker 1: left side because Adrian Claiborne was way out. Why way,
Speaker 1: Why do you think they would have done that of
Speaker 1: Zeke's playing and known that there was a big gap there,
Speaker 1: or if Tyrone was playing and they you left that
Speaker 1: big gap. But they didn't fear those guys hitting that
Speaker 1: gap and beating them. Right, Okay, I'll give you three yards,
Speaker 1: I'll give you four yards, but by god, I'm coming after.
Speaker 1: I'm coming after Dak and he had trouble getting out
Speaker 1: in space. It's a great point. You make Mickey because
Speaker 1: the first thing I know otis was when he was
Speaker 1: having problems he couldn't kick for depth, and then when
Speaker 1: he couldn't kick for depth, and as as he's going back,
Speaker 1: he couldn't get with so all of a sudden he stuck,
Speaker 1: like Mickey said, he's stuck near the line instead of
Speaker 1: being kick kick and be outside like you see, Tyren
Speaker 1: Smith will take two really violent kicks and he'll be
Speaker 1: all the way to the outside. When it took Smith
Speaker 1: or it's gonna be green almost three kicks and by
Speaker 1: that time you've given up the corner because Mickey's talking
Speaker 1: about they played that wide nine, you've given up that edge.
Speaker 1: Every sack it was the same move. Basically, he just
Speaker 1: went around him. He was just it wasn't the footwork
Speaker 1: was bad, the hands were bad, the balance was bad,
Speaker 1: the over extension was bad. You know, he even got
Speaker 1: caught on one with a spun on him, the fumble,
Speaker 1: the one right before the half with a fumble he
Speaker 1: got spun on there. You know, it was just, hey,
Speaker 1: it was it's a rough day at the office. I
Speaker 1: mean that's an understatement. I mean it's easy to pile
Speaker 1: on the guy and say it's his fault. But you know,
Speaker 1: you look throughout there's there's things out there that you know,
Speaker 1: the coach was talking about. They wanted to throw the football,
Speaker 1: they wanted to be able to get it out quick,
Speaker 1: they wanted to handle some things, and they just didn't
Speaker 1: do a very good job that. You're two primary receivers
Speaker 1: think came up with five catches for forty eight yards.
Speaker 1: That's it, that's it. Yeah, Terrence did not happen. I
Speaker 1: mean it was it was you know, it was Jason
Speaker 1: Witton late in the game, and you know, and they
Speaker 1: were gonna give you that. Absolutely, we're gonna give you that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they couldn't, you know. And let's see some untimely
Speaker 1: penalties too, not just the holding penalties, but how about
Speaker 1: the pilly on Bryce Butler. I mean you just you
Speaker 1: you know, you make a pi it's a great gamble
Speaker 1: play that all of a sudden, you don't need to
Speaker 1: do that. You don't need to push with a great pass, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't need you don't need to push that guy.
Speaker 1: You can go get their football. For anyone who's listening,
Speaker 1: they were talking about the fake punt. Yeah, Chris Jones
Speaker 1: passes to Bryce Butler and Bryce Butler pushes off the
Speaker 1: defender and gets the offensive passage, shoves him, and he
Speaker 1: shone I had to play down to the twenty one.
Speaker 1: That was That was a one of those momentum killers.
Speaker 1: Absolutely reminded me of the muff punt against the Ram. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: because they're gonna go, They're going, they're going, They're they're
Speaker 1: down to the twenty one yard line. And I talked
Speaker 1: to him afterwards, and I think he got frustrated because
Speaker 1: the cornerback, Alfred Right, is playing it like he's the gunner, right,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna hold him up right, and he has
Speaker 1: that right to do it right. And he got into
Speaker 1: a wrestling match and he goes, oh, I gotta get off,
Speaker 1: I gotta get down, and he ended up throwing at
Speaker 1: him and the guy flopped a little bit, but he did.
Speaker 1: He did throw at him. So what happens is the
Speaker 1: corner is not gonna get called for interference because he's
Speaker 1: blocking for a punt, right, But the guy that's gonna
Speaker 1: go out for the past can't do that. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: thought if he drove him off a little, I thought
Speaker 1: if he drove him like he was gonna cover right,
Speaker 1: and then and then made him have to kind of
Speaker 1: play back and then stop your route and go up
Speaker 1: because Joe's throw the ball where he needed to throw it.
Speaker 1: It was perfect, perfect. And you know what, Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: doesn't call a lot of trick plays. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm thearing to think of the really the last trick play.
Speaker 1: I mean last year in Philadelphia maybe, and not in Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: but the fake punt Chris Jones earlier this season, was
Speaker 1: there a trick play? Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't with
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, though, let me look that up. He ran
Speaker 1: the ball last year, Chris, he did. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The Philadelphia game. I'm trying to think about
Speaker 1: a thirty yard game. I'm trying to think of special teams.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a special team's trick play.
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. This year? Yah? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: there was one. Yeah, you're right, Nick, that was a huge,
Speaker 1: huge That was a huge momentum swing. And and even
Speaker 1: though they punted him down to the two yard line
Speaker 1: and stopped him, you didn't get points. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: had an opportunity. And I think Jason realized that they
Speaker 1: were going to have to steal the possession there were
Speaker 1: they were going to have to get something extra to
Speaker 1: Babiel to hang in. See, and I go back to
Speaker 1: another bad penny and Chas Green gets called for holding.
Speaker 1: You throw the ball to Cole Beasley in the flat.
Speaker 1: It's a first down. Yeah, Instead, now you're you know
Speaker 1: it's ten yards going back and you have to punt
Speaker 1: the ball too many times behind the chain. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: eight sacks they give up. But not just eight sacks.
Speaker 1: That got hit ten times. Ten times he could have
Speaker 1: he could have been sacked a dozen and they had
Speaker 1: nine tackles for losses nine that that last drive before
Speaker 1: the half. Every single play he was running for his life.
Speaker 1: He was tired. He was running for his life. And
Speaker 1: could I get out of bounds and take a break.
Speaker 1: I was. I had a flashback of what if Tony
Speaker 1: Romo was still a quarterback in that situation. I mean,
Speaker 1: he would have been taken off the field. It was
Speaker 1: unbelievable how much pressure he was under. Well that's what
Speaker 1: happens too if he come would come one dimensional. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I your inability to your inability to to
Speaker 1: like Mickey said, and stay ahead of the change. That's
Speaker 1: how this team survives. I shouldn't say survived, this said
Speaker 1: this team operates. It works on the run, it works
Speaker 1: on the play action. It allows you the waggles to boots,
Speaker 1: you know, the things like that to get receivers open,
Speaker 1: and it just you know, when you don't have that ability,
Speaker 1: then you then your offense will struggle. Conversely, I thought
Speaker 1: Atlanta was able to take advantage of that. They got
Speaker 1: their running gamely used a lot of when did they
Speaker 1: get it going though? After Sean left? Okay, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying they got the running game going, and they used
Speaker 1: play action well off of that, a lot of misdirection stuff.
Speaker 1: They housed down the middle of the field, Yes, third down,
Speaker 1: right down the middle of the field. Matt Ryan got
Speaker 1: very comfortable as the game went on. Well, they only
Speaker 1: would they sack him one time. One time Laurence sack
Speaker 1: one yep, which I was sitting there going they need
Speaker 1: a sack and and he got it. And it's like okay,
Speaker 1: but that was it. He At the time of day,
Speaker 1: those guys on on the right side of the of
Speaker 1: the of the line of scrimmage were running all the
Speaker 1: way across to the other boundary and catching the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and I made some heck of a place too,
Speaker 1: that Hulo Jones made a couple of Oh one of
Speaker 1: that guy's got the greatest hands I think I've had
Speaker 1: also about six nine. He can stretch radius. He just
Speaker 1: stretches out the hands out like you know. And then
Speaker 1: and then not, I mean, he's enough of a load
Speaker 1: there running games, enough a load. And then some joker
Speaker 1: name Hooper starts beating you up up in the middle. Hooper?
Speaker 1: Who did Hooper? Yeah, come on, well, and that's another
Speaker 1: indication Shawn Lee's out of there, you know. And so
Speaker 1: they end up moving Hitchens to the weak side and
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith in the middle. And poor Jalen Smith he
Speaker 1: needs like four steps to take what he should take
Speaker 1: to get two steps. Do you think it's more Do
Speaker 1: you think it's more about though the some of the
Speaker 1: mental and I'm not meaning mental in it, like some
Speaker 1: of them were. Yet we're sitting gaps that that weren't run.
Speaker 1: There was no runner. Yeah, that you just get so
Speaker 1: overly aggressive and wound up and you're you're trying to
Speaker 1: attack the line and you just you put yourself out
Speaker 1: of position. And some of that just being a young
Speaker 1: player and having missed a year of football. The recognition
Speaker 1: he's played a lot of snaps now I know at
Speaker 1: this point this point he has. But if you was
Speaker 1: one of those things where you said, okay, he hasn't
Speaker 1: played all year and all he's been as a special
Speaker 1: teams guy. If you said this, okay, that was if
Speaker 1: you said that was march Lillard playing, I would say, okay,
Speaker 1: he's a venter player. But he hadn't played a lot
Speaker 1: of defense. I would have you know, I would have
Speaker 1: been a little bit more sympathetic there. So what do
Speaker 1: you attribute it to? I mean, he's a smart player,
Speaker 1: he's he's I mean he was going to be a
Speaker 1: top five pick in the draft. He was. He's just
Speaker 1: way over aggressive though, Yeah, he's way over He doesn't
Speaker 1: play within the scheme. That's a big problem for him.
Speaker 1: So this this occurred to me. If Sean Lee can't
Speaker 1: play this next game, are they better off with Hitchens
Speaker 1: in the middle and somebody else playing the week side?
Speaker 1: Then Hitchens going to the week side and somebody else
Speaker 1: playing in the middle. Great question to go into our break.
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Speaker 1: crumbled up cheetos in the Yeah, all right. Make You
Speaker 1: asked a great question prior to our break, and it
Speaker 1: had to do with the middle linebacker. Do you remind
Speaker 1: Do you mind reminding everyone what that question was? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was. I was just contemplating because when when Sean
Speaker 1: Lee went out, they moved Hitchens to the weak side
Speaker 1: and Jalen Smith came and played the middle, and I
Speaker 1: was wondering, is it better to leave Hitchens in the
Speaker 1: middle and have somebody else play on the week side,
Speaker 1: like maybe justin Durant. Yeah, see, I see better in
Speaker 1: the middle. I'm playing. I'm keeping Hitchens in the middle,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna use I'm gonna see if I can
Speaker 1: get march Lillard ready because he's younger. I just I
Speaker 1: feel he's a veteran player and he can run. He
Speaker 1: can run. That's your thing. He can run. That's I
Speaker 1: worry about. I worry about Durant. I wouldn't worry about
Speaker 1: Durant for the mental right capability stuff because in Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: I mean, we'd sit down and see what Philadelphia is
Speaker 1: doing offensively with their scheme. But I kind of feel
Speaker 1: like you need a guy that can people that can
Speaker 1: chase the ball get after him. Had he just kind
Speaker 1: of been a healthy scratch right now? Durant, Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: what Lillard, Marshall Allard, Yeah, he's played, he's played, but
Speaker 1: they yeah, they've kind of it's kind of how they
Speaker 1: adjusted how they mean, he was like the last one,
Speaker 1: like either him or yeah or yeah or Brown Brown. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would, I would personally think, and they will see
Speaker 1: how they practice this week, but I would I would
Speaker 1: keep Hitchens in the middle and then and work with
Speaker 1: with Mark with march Lillard. Was Jeff Swaim a Blue
Speaker 1: player that was missed this past week. Blue player, you know,
Speaker 1: just somebody that kind of goes under the radar, just
Speaker 1: you know he's there, and then the fans really don't
Speaker 1: notice him, you know what I'm saying an extra tight
Speaker 1: end to Yeah, was he missed with walking the young
Speaker 1: guy that played for him though didn't play badly in
Speaker 1: the couple of snaps he was in there and three
Speaker 1: types and then went thirteen personnel. He're talking about Blake
Speaker 1: Jarwin Jarwin, Yeah, he got into his guy and was
Speaker 1: you know, playing through the whistle. H You know, if
Speaker 1: you if you were just grading him on a couple
Speaker 1: of plays that he was in there for thirteen, you
Speaker 1: give him a couple of pluses. How about this narrative though,
Speaker 1: because did you write about this last night? I know
Speaker 1: you've looked at the tape this morning. The lack of
Speaker 1: help for Chaz Green. They helped him some, right. I
Speaker 1: counted eight snaps okay, eight pass plays where he was
Speaker 1: where he did get help and then when then when
Speaker 1: Bell went in the game, it was two for him,
Speaker 1: So ten total for the tackles to that side. Dak
Speaker 1: had thirty pass attempts. Yeah, yeah, Lemon on that last
Speaker 1: drive though, right and that and that, like I said,
Speaker 1: you can the last one, like I said, was with
Speaker 1: all Bell Bell was in that last last group of
Speaker 1: and he got off in his his hand in there,
Speaker 1: given up to I mean, I just feel like that's
Speaker 1: that's a major arrative coming out of this game, is adjustments.
Speaker 1: Why didn't they chip do more? And he saw a
Speaker 1: little bit of that with Bell when he came in.
Speaker 1: I just I didn't notice, especially on the sacks. I
Speaker 1: mean it was it was Chazz on an Island. Chazz
Speaker 1: on an Island. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. But
Speaker 1: I think to some degree, you go into the game
Speaker 1: and you don't expect your left tackle, no matter who
Speaker 1: it is, to get beaten that badly. That's part of
Speaker 1: the best guy that went in went into the game
Speaker 1: with two sacks this season and the starter and over
Speaker 1: the last of three four seasons. I can't remember what
Speaker 1: I wrote down, he had like a total of seven
Speaker 1: and a half sacks. Yeah, he hadn't had this many
Speaker 1: sacks since Tampa picked him. He was a kind of
Speaker 1: an injured guy coming out of Iowa that Tampa took. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the first come out signing him to last year,
Speaker 1: first year in the league, he had seven and a
Speaker 1: half sacks and then he got hurt and then he
Speaker 1: had five and a half, and then he got hurt,
Speaker 1: and then he had like two or three last year,
Speaker 1: and and then he had two all year until now.
Speaker 1: And now he if he can stay on the fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster and stay healthy, he'll make seven hundred
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars thanks to that game. Yea and one point.
Speaker 1: And if he gets ten on the season, Oh, he's
Speaker 1: almost there. Well, he doesn't get to play the Cowboys again. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's the worst. The worst? Was that the worst in
Speaker 1: the eleventh Sac game? Because I was doing the game
Speaker 1: with Nate or doing the post game with Nate, and
Speaker 1: he was trying to describe that that was bad. Flight
Speaker 1: Simmons had four and a half sacks, But they had
Speaker 1: Klein Simmons, Jerome Brown, Reggie White, We're talking Adrian Clayborne.
Speaker 1: And he's a good player. He's a good player. But
Speaker 1: it was still one Simmons, one sack away from tying
Speaker 1: the NFL record sacks by one player. Tom one game,
Speaker 1: the great Derek tomast most in Falkon history, most in
Speaker 1: Cowboy opponent Claude Humphrey played there too. Yeah, good player.
Speaker 1: I mean they had some good guys. The Cowboys team
Speaker 1: had never allowed more than five sacks by one player
Speaker 1: in their entire history. Well, they only got six twice
Speaker 1: they had they gave up eleven so one in ninety one, Uh,
Speaker 1: they got beat twenty four nothing by the Falcons or
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Why did I say Falcons? Yeah, by the
Speaker 1: Falcons twenty four nothing. And then I believe it was
Speaker 1: in eighty six against San Diego they gave up eleven sacks.
Speaker 1: Billy ray Smith probably probably had them all. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so but yeah, they had eight sacks. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, if you didn't have a moment, but you know,
Speaker 1: like Dak, he might have been thirteen sacks. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know. And one of the other sacks that hurt him,
Speaker 1: by the way, is the president gave up a sack
Speaker 1: that guy threw the side, yeah, Poe. Yeah. And then
Speaker 1: and then one of Claiborne's sacks, by the way, Uh,
Speaker 1: they and I don't know why they did it, but
Speaker 1: they must have zoned Blitz because he was off the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and Dak tried to run out and
Speaker 1: he came up and met him at the mine of scrimmage. Right,
Speaker 1: no game, and he got a sack sack, right, But
Speaker 1: it wasn't like he beat anybody. He was opened. They
Speaker 1: had blocked it, but not well enough. Right, So um,
Speaker 1: you know, let me ask you this. We are more
Speaker 1: concerned with your adjustment. Ben, if we were playing coach today,
Speaker 1: to help Green more earlier, or play with Bell earlier.
Speaker 1: I said at halftime in the press box, they need
Speaker 1: to seriously consider a different at halftime. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: it just what a new left tackle putting Bell in there.
Speaker 1: He gave up two sacks. I was just asking in
Speaker 1: two series. I'm just asking though, if if now I
Speaker 1: would have helped him more. Yeah, with the adjustment you
Speaker 1: especially when they went to that wide nine thing, right,
Speaker 1: but how do you adjust to that? Because who are
Speaker 1: you gonna put over there? You're gonna you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to put the tight end way off the light of strament.
Speaker 1: Well you get to put you just put the you
Speaker 1: know they initially did that. They threw the screen to
Speaker 1: that side. Well, they tried the fullback, but the fullback
Speaker 1: kind of set them in right, not the slot way.
Speaker 1: And he helped Chip and then they tried to say, okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go way out there, I'm gonna throw a
Speaker 1: screen underneath and the linebacker came up. He gave up
Speaker 1: two sacks Bell but he also that was clear passing
Speaker 1: situations at the end, at least in the start of
Speaker 1: the second half, you could have stayed more balanced. I mean,
Speaker 1: the game wasn't decided by that point. He gave up
Speaker 1: one to some guy. Never heard of Brooks Red, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard of him recent, wasn't He's a starter? I know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've heard of him. He's star. You know. To me
Speaker 1: though that it was you know, sometimes offensive lineman will
Speaker 1: tell you that they don't want the help because there's
Speaker 1: times where backs will get in the way because they
Speaker 1: don't do it enough, where they don't know where to fit,
Speaker 1: you know. They sometimes they'll they'll fit right into the
Speaker 1: back of the of the tackle and it will throw
Speaker 1: the tackle off in his set. But are you talking
Speaker 1: about an offensive lineman like Tyrant Smith or somebody who
Speaker 1: like generally offensive lineman general offensive lineman i've talked to
Speaker 1: don't like help, and he needed help. It was clear.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say that he yeah, I was
Speaker 1: just saying. I'm just saying, though, generally offensive lineman don't
Speaker 1: like help because they the backs don't know or the
Speaker 1: tight ends, don't know where to fit, they don't know
Speaker 1: how to get shoulder to shoulder there and make that
Speaker 1: guy have to run around him or run through them.
Speaker 1: And so a lot of times you'll see guys to say,
Speaker 1: I'm just don't do it. I'll just I'll figure this out.
Speaker 1: But it's clear he needed help. Man and a couple
Speaker 1: and the one time they tried to help him, I
Speaker 1: think Troy pointed out in the broadcast, they turned the
Speaker 1: protection left and Cooper was going to help him to
Speaker 1: the inside right, and he was supposed to protect the outside,
Speaker 1: and he still let him beat him around the up.
Speaker 1: Couldn't get out far enough. Yeah, the outside Bill couldn't
Speaker 1: stop him. Yeah, and Cooper standing there, Okay, I got it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was no one there for him to block right right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it was funny, you know, being on the plane
Speaker 1: last night, you have an opportunity to be around different guys,
Speaker 1: and des is watching his stuff, looking at Jeremiah's different photos,
Speaker 1: and he said he just couldn't he couldn't get out
Speaker 1: of there. He said, I was open wide on so
Speaker 1: many different touchdowns and he couldn't even get it to us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not enough time to throw, not enough time to throw
Speaker 1: too often. He was he was a takeoff running because
Speaker 1: he had no choice. Yeah, Jack, and you know what,
Speaker 1: And they should have had an opportunity because there were
Speaker 1: a lot of Cowboy fans there for a dome. I
Speaker 1: didn't think it was that loud. A lot of empty seats.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of empty seats, lots. It was not.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like and I heard somebody say they they said, well,
Speaker 1: they were having trouble with their calls at the line
Speaker 1: because it was so loud. I didn't think it was loud.
Speaker 1: I believe I looked at it. Yeah, it wasn't seventy
Speaker 1: three thousand. I'd guarantee you a lot of blue. The
Speaker 1: rain caused a lot because it rained like right before,
Speaker 1: like an hour or two two hours before the started game.
Speaker 1: I think it discouraged people. Cowboy fans usually traveled pretty
Speaker 1: well those games. Well, there's probably a lot that lived there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Now why did they not put Darren McFadden in. I
Speaker 1: saw a lot of people were asking for that. Now.
Speaker 1: I get yes, he's been inactive this whole season and
Speaker 1: this would be his first game back. Kind of ease
Speaker 1: him into things. Coach said they didn't run enough plays
Speaker 1: I believe in the post game is what he said. No,
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, yeah, one carrier for minus two. That
Speaker 1: was the toss I mean toss going to the right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was another halftime consideration in my why don't you
Speaker 1: you know, put him in as part of the rotation.
Speaker 1: But then again, Morris ran well at the start of
Speaker 1: the second half, they got something going started thirteen Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Rod Smith, you know, three carries fourteen yards, almost
Speaker 1: a five per carry average. Uh. They just they weren't
Speaker 1: able to establish anything in the game. And as as
Speaker 1: Alfred said, they got going way too late. I thought
Speaker 1: they would get McFadden in and try to get the
Speaker 1: ball outside, get get get out. Yeah, and they did.
Speaker 1: When he brought him in, they gave him that little
Speaker 1: pitch and then the guy the toss. Yeah, the toss yitch,
Speaker 1: and the guy busted through the Yeah, well he'll played.
Speaker 1: He beat Uh, he beat Terrence Williams. They tried to
Speaker 1: bring Terrence Williams inside to block and he missed the block.
Speaker 1: So a matter of fact, they had another negative play
Speaker 1: where Terrence Williams earlier the game was supposed to trap
Speaker 1: and it ended up being a minus two on that,
Speaker 1: so they had some confusion with the receiver that normally
Speaker 1: is pretty good blocker. Yeah, and we we've discussed that
Speaker 1: Shaun Ley did leave the game with the hamstring injury.
Speaker 1: Of course he's been dealing with this previously during the season.
Speaker 1: Now Jeff Heath is being evaluated for a concussion and
Speaker 1: left the game as well, So we'll see what will
Speaker 1: be diagnosed to him this week. But well, he took
Speaker 1: a shot. Yeah, if you can't play him, then now
Speaker 1: you know, here's the possibility of with Xavier Woods. You
Speaker 1: also can get a Woozier ready, you know, to play
Speaker 1: some safety. Betchy he plays this week. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: How much you back now? I hope I hope you.
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed that. But yeah, no, this is
Speaker 1: this is you know, you have the the option will
Speaker 1: be if if if he can't go, then yes, but
Speaker 1: you'll miss him on the special team stuff that he does.
Speaker 1: He's your personal protector on the pot you know, things
Speaker 1: like that. So ye, and that was another bad penalty
Speaker 1: that got them off the snide. It was like a
Speaker 1: nineteen yard run and then Heath made the tackle and
Speaker 1: they called him for grabbing inside the helmet. Yeah, Dak,
Speaker 1: I tell you what. They show a replace. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he was kind of your holes and it was all back.
Speaker 1: It was all kinds of stuff going on there. It's
Speaker 1: unusual call. I've never seen it made. I hadn't either,
Speaker 1: because I thought they were a horse collar and he didn't.
Speaker 1: They did miss some calls though, They did miss some
Speaker 1: hands to the face, They did miss some face masks
Speaker 1: and missed some shots to the head on the quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you know, you tweeted at one point in the first half,
Speaker 1: they're just letting him play. Yeah, this was not a
Speaker 1: tightly called no. But I believe that Dallas only had
Speaker 1: had five penalties in the first half and didn't have
Speaker 1: one in the second half. Just five yeah, five in
Speaker 1: the first half. They got behind the change yea many times. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Five in the first half. None in the second half.
Speaker 1: So none bigger than that darn pass interference on the
Speaker 1: fake punt. And such a bummer for him because he
Speaker 1: has a good catch, you know, to start and gets
Speaker 1: going and everyone's kind of looking at him returning back
Speaker 1: to Georgia, his home state. He gets the weirdest penalties,
Speaker 1: he really does. I mean, his penalties are strange. He's
Speaker 1: got one named after him. Yeah, he's he's the huddle
Speaker 1: penalty guy, he's the let's push off guy, he's the
Speaker 1: blocking the back guy. No, I mean, it's just what
Speaker 1: it is. It is what it is. But you all, aw,
Speaker 1: you're always kind of going, guys, man, just go play,
Speaker 1: go play, because you're good enough to go play. And
Speaker 1: you you know, he's he's good enough to go. Chris
Speaker 1: Jones threw a hell of a pass, you know, And
Speaker 1: and it was a gutsy call too, but it was
Speaker 1: a good call. Did a forty yard game? How long?
Speaker 1: How deep was it was least twenty I think, I
Speaker 1: mean that could have really yeah, it could have given
Speaker 1: the offense some juice and it momentum wise, it just
Speaker 1: went the other way. Yeah, and then you have to
Speaker 1: back up and punt it, and you know, so it's
Speaker 1: just I mean, it's just it's it's just in games
Speaker 1: like that, you need something to turn things around. And
Speaker 1: they never could get that turnaround play. They have the
Speaker 1: holding pellet or the personal or the pass interference, the
Speaker 1: missfield goal. I mean, they just could not get something
Speaker 1: going to be there. Now they had they had the interception,
Speaker 1: but that was and I'll tell you what I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, with with Anthony Brown. I was happy to
Speaker 1: see Anthony Brown driving a football, knock it up in
Speaker 1: the air. Yeah, and then all of a sudden, I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 1: is that the only thing we're gonna see all day?
Speaker 1: He had one other play, but I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: it's just it's just not enough. And you noticed they
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't really go after Jordan Lewis too, till
Speaker 1: the one catching the end zone he got beat. Well,
Speaker 1: he and they and they ran across on it. He
Speaker 1: got picked by his own guy, right, Yeah, well he
Speaker 1: ran through it. But he on the on the one
Speaker 1: that went across the field that Gabriel caught for the
Speaker 1: first time, it was third and six, he hesitated, He
Speaker 1: just he Gabriel ran at him and he just sat down.
Speaker 1: And that's all it took because once Gabriel went to
Speaker 1: the inside, then he couldn't rally. And you remember he
Speaker 1: was just short, I mean just a bit short diving
Speaker 1: for the ball. So if he just naturally just breaks
Speaker 1: with him, he's probably going inside there and making that play.
Speaker 1: So I mean, and then you know, we didn't even
Speaker 1: mention it. You know, Scandrick goes out for the rest
Speaker 1: of the one series, and I think it was part
Speaker 1: of the next got his hand stepped on, came back
Speaker 1: later in the series. He came back. You see that
Speaker 1: his finger after the game? Yeah, dang, Yeah, nasty. But
Speaker 1: now you're without Heath, you're without Lee, and you're without Scan.
Speaker 1: That was a touchdown drive, right, Yeah, Yeah, it hurts.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of young pups out there, yep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and some point it'll help Dylan Smith. I value you
Speaker 1: saw some good things, but it was not consistent enough.
Speaker 1: What do you want to say about that? I was
Speaker 1: just gonna ask you guys this question. Then you know
Speaker 1: you're going to get the tackle spot fixed because Smith's
Speaker 1: coming back. Though. What is your biggest concern though defensively
Speaker 1: or is it offensively? Maybe the inability to run the
Speaker 1: football consistently enough? Now, Shaun Lee, I think having that's
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the biggest that's your biggest that's your
Speaker 1: biggest issue. Yeah, because I think if Smith comes back
Speaker 1: this week, which I think, yeah, answered that, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: might help solve some of your running games, certainly your
Speaker 1: pass protection. So maybe because I had a hard time
Speaker 1: evaluating this overall offense in this game without him in
Speaker 1: the game, because not just the past protection, I think
Speaker 1: it affected the running game, It just affected their overall balance.
Speaker 1: So you get him back, maybe you get a better
Speaker 1: evaluation of these back see. But I think they could
Speaker 1: have survived. They could have survived without the sacks with yeah,
Speaker 1: because okay, I didn't run yard well, so what in yards?
Speaker 1: Fifty yards? But Deck's good enough to beat you in
Speaker 1: the passing game if he's got an opportunity to hit
Speaker 1: his back foot and throw. Yeah. Yeah, And that mucked
Speaker 1: everything up because now you're always behind the chains and
Speaker 1: a lot of those were on third down, you know,
Speaker 1: and then one was on fourth and you know, drive
Speaker 1: to the twelve yard line sack. Now it's at the nineteen, right.
Speaker 1: That's why I felt like this game wasn't the Denver
Speaker 1: game where they just absolutely nothing went right, because, like
Speaker 1: you mentioned that series, they had a shot to still
Speaker 1: stay in this game in the third quarter, and there
Speaker 1: was little plays here and there, and certain certain issues
Speaker 1: the run defense, the pass protection in particular, that bit them.
Speaker 1: I mean, but they didn't get their butts kicked from
Speaker 1: start to finish like they did Denver. Atlanta only had
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty six total yards. The problem was
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had minus fifty four and penalties and another
Speaker 1: fifty fifteen sacks. Yeah, hitting yards, I mean they were
Speaker 1: moving the football. They just couldn't you know, couldn't finish,
Speaker 1: couldn't make a play, couldn't kick a field goal, couldn't
Speaker 1: fake a punt. Ah. Well that with that deep sigh,
Speaker 1: we are going to go to our final break here
Speaker 1: and maybe offer some optimism. In the third segment, of course,
Speaker 1: we will have Rob's Twitter poll, So stay with us.
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Speaker 1: Rob Healthy scratch By the way that was a healthy scratch. Well,
Speaker 1: here are some non healthy scratches except for Zeke, which
Speaker 1: injury slash absence hurt the team most versus Atlanta. We've
Speaker 1: covered them all so far. But I want to see
Speaker 1: what the fans thought, Bailey, Zeke, Seawan Lee after the
Speaker 1: first quarter or Tyran Smith. I think this was probably
Speaker 1: a runaway. You think so? I think this was this
Speaker 1: might this one might have this one might be our
Speaker 1: all timer. I think this might be the all timer.
Speaker 1: I bet you this thing goes over eighty four percent.
Speaker 1: I'm going ninety roll seventy seven. Yeah, tell you agree?
Speaker 1: Oh day lived it. Tyrn Smith seventy nine percent. Honestly,
Speaker 1: like I finished second, Sean Lee with thirteen percent? And
Speaker 1: why didn't he get a little bit more? I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it was bad, is really Lee? I would have,
Speaker 1: but his absence impacted the defense almost as much as
Speaker 1: as Tyrant being out. If you if you would have
Speaker 1: voted this poll before the game, this poll went up
Speaker 1: win this after the game. Oh man, there's no way.
Speaker 1: I know. That's why I thought it was we voted
Speaker 1: before the game. I thought I thought we all kind
Speaker 1: of didn't have like a similar Pole, we had a
Speaker 1: which starter do you need the most? I said, I said, Elliott, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was des Tyrant or Zeke, and Zeke got fifty
Speaker 1: six percent of the vote them all. Honestly, as we're
Speaker 1: supposed to be banged up, Bailey belongs in this poll
Speaker 1: as well. That thirty yard miss Okay, Well, that segues
Speaker 1: into a question I have for you guys. Out of
Speaker 1: these five plays that I'm about to tell you guys about,
Speaker 1: some of them are penalties, some of them are miss
Speaker 1: field goals, what hurt this game the most? First you
Speaker 1: have the Taylor Gabriel thirty four yard reception, the Jeff
Speaker 1: Heath facemask penalty, the Mike Nugent missed field goal, the
Speaker 1: Dack Sack fumble right before the half, like Mickey brought
Speaker 1: up kind of the twist of last week. And then
Speaker 1: of course the fake punt pass interference call on Bryce Butler.
Speaker 1: It's good five right there, door number five. That one
Speaker 1: hurts you because you felt like that you would have
Speaker 1: taken that and gone in. What was it? What was
Speaker 1: the score at that point in time? Seven three three
Speaker 1: seven three seven nothing. It was seven It was seven
Speaker 1: three seven three. Yeah, So you have a chance to
Speaker 1: maybe have a chance to make it fourteen three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: different ballgame, and you'd already and you and you got
Speaker 1: to stop on the next right possession, by the way right,
Speaker 1: they only stop after Sean Lee left, and then you
Speaker 1: you were thirty nine at midfield, thirty nine at midfield
Speaker 1: to forty nine and Poe gets the sack right, so
Speaker 1: now you got a punt and then they come back
Speaker 1: and that's when we had the double. Uh. It was
Speaker 1: the the run for nineteen yards and then the fifteen
Speaker 1: yard penalty on face mask on heath, yeah, or whatever
Speaker 1: they want to call grabbing inside the helmet. How about
Speaker 1: the how about the sack before half? I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say that have made that, you know, because you're
Speaker 1: kind of driving, you could have been in field goal.
Speaker 1: But we think you could have been when it was
Speaker 1: the last time that when Dak was sacked, he actually
Speaker 1: fumbled the football. That's what I was trying to remember.
Speaker 1: I know he's fumbled, I know he's had interception. I
Speaker 1: think Pittsburgh maybe that's what I was thinking, Maybe Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: because I think that was a that was might have
Speaker 1: been before. I'm sure there's somebody out there right now
Speaker 1: you know, is there something later in the year that happened.
Speaker 1: He had a couple last year playoff game giants I
Speaker 1: think stripped him. That's right, we're giants, Okay. I was
Speaker 1: just kind of thinking that. So they're at the thirty nine.
Speaker 1: First they just complete a pass, maybe they get it
Speaker 1: to the thirty and you're attempting of yeah, you're ten ten.
Speaker 1: Say you're ten ten going into half with with Atlanta
Speaker 1: getting the football, if you can count on the field
Speaker 1: goal if yeah, it's I'm saying though, that's that's now.
Speaker 1: I hate I hate that. That's crept into an now
Speaker 1: our thinking. That's that's why my vote is nugent thirty
Speaker 1: eight yard miss, because that's that is where clearly you
Speaker 1: miss Dan Bailey. That is a chip shot for Dan Bailey,
Speaker 1: and at that point that's points and go play defense hopefully,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe. I mean, you're not bagging, we're
Speaker 1: all bagging, but you're still in the football game. If
Speaker 1: you cut it to seven point turn the field position,
Speaker 1: yeah that too, So you can vote for all those
Speaker 1: Those were all Mickey pointing to the Bryce Butler penalty.
Speaker 1: That's a big one. Momentum wise, what are you looking
Speaker 1: at Mick. I was just seeing what happened after that.
Speaker 1: And it's seventeen so they score right, right, So say
Speaker 1: it's seventeen ten, right, got that field goal, right, So
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys get the ball back, they start running it.
Speaker 1: They go from the thirty Oh yeah, nice kickoff return. Yeah,
Speaker 1: way by Switzer. Yeah. And they've got first and ten
Speaker 1: at the twelve. Yeah, and Claiborne sacks Dak right second
Speaker 1: and seventeen. Morris loses two yards. Then they tried to
Speaker 1: screen that screen passed Keith Smith nowhere to get one
Speaker 1: yard and then he misses the field goal. So you know,
Speaker 1: if you go you're at the twelve, go score, you
Speaker 1: could have been tying the game up. Oh, they've been
Speaker 1: a all year long. They've scored inside the twelve. Yeah.
Speaker 1: About red zone yeah, red zone efficiency, I mean it
Speaker 1: was they were one of two yesterday and red zone
Speaker 1: efficiency and usually they're three for three, four for four.
Speaker 1: That's where you get. You give the ball to Zeke
Speaker 1: from the twelve yard line, you're probably scoring a touchdown.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been the red zone guy for them.
Speaker 1: It's a good point sixteen touchdowns last year, seven this year.
Speaker 1: What was how many rushing touchdowns did they have in
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen? Like five? Yeah, something like that seference down there.
Speaker 1: The other thing is that they had they had just
Speaker 1: run for eleven yards right on first and ten. Alfred
Speaker 1: was tearing him up on that drive. Run it again,
Speaker 1: I think so in Hinesight Hindsight twenty twenty. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it sounds weird to say this because it
Speaker 1: was such a bad loss, but it's like your MVP
Speaker 1: was Dak you know, at least for the Cowboys side,
Speaker 1: he's the only one who scored points. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: if you look at defense, and I know there was some,
Speaker 1: but Anthony Hitchins played a heck this game. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to give an offensive offense defense, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you want to give now Chris Jones and what
Speaker 1: he did punting the punting the ball and throwing the
Speaker 1: ball and ended up with ten sacks. Interesting you bring
Speaker 1: up Hitchens. You know, obviously two weeks ago we were
Speaker 1: looking at Okay, this is the first time Anthony Hitchins
Speaker 1: and Sean Lee are back together playing. Yeah, and now
Speaker 1: you're in a game where it's Hitchens, no Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: You know, I felt like they'd settled in with Jalen
Speaker 1: with a nice role for him, you know, twenty thirty
Speaker 1: snaps a game, a lot of it, you know, rushing forward,
Speaker 1: being a pass rusher in those situations. And now you've
Speaker 1: got him back covering, having a play in space, and
Speaker 1: that's just not that's not an ideal role for him
Speaker 1: at this point. And and he you know, there's one
Speaker 1: game I think one of those two games Sean missed
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, he had to place like sixty
Speaker 1: seventy snaps in the game, and that's just that's too
Speaker 1: many for him. And I don't know it's at Arizona.
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, after that, and then he played all
Speaker 1: the plays against the Packers. The problem is, I just
Speaker 1: you talk about those four guys that are missing, like you, Okay,
Speaker 1: may get tiring back. I don't. Are you gonna get
Speaker 1: Seawan Lee back a week later and then you play
Speaker 1: four days later. If he misses Sunday, he misses Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: for sure. If this is indeed a reaggravation, or is
Speaker 1: it the other one? Now it's the same one, same one,
Speaker 1: I mean, left one. Dude, Aren't they gonna be deliberate
Speaker 1: with him? It's hard to imagine him just jumping back
Speaker 1: in on that. You'll see then unfortunately ten days going
Speaker 1: to play another one before you get the break, right,
Speaker 1: and now Zeke's already missed four games. Yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 1: not gonna be easy. It's it's I mean, you get
Speaker 1: the problem. What I'm saying is you may be compromise
Speaker 1: in the same way as against Philly as you were
Speaker 1: in this game, unless you get tired back and maybe
Speaker 1: that has an effect. But you don't have Zeke and
Speaker 1: you probably don't have Bailey either, so we'll see. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: you do would rank them though you had Dak Yeah,
Speaker 1: light at the end of tunnel or something. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know it's hard because you look at it and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this Shawn Lee excuse is getting a little tiring, But
Speaker 1: I see it. It's fair. It's fair to say every
Speaker 1: time he's not on the field. But then you look
Speaker 1: and all these people that said, oh, Jalen Smith, he's
Speaker 1: going to be the Shaun Lee replacement. I just don't
Speaker 1: see that yet, And maybe that's unfair to say since
Speaker 1: he's only played nine games or yeah at nine, Well
Speaker 1: what happens without Shawn Lee is fact. Yeah, it's no opinion,
Speaker 1: it's fact. Just look thirty five points, thirty five points
Speaker 1: and then you saw what happened in this game once
Speaker 1: he went out, they scored twenty four unanswered pain. How
Speaker 1: can that be? Now? How could it be that? It's
Speaker 1: just it's such that's such as charity in that way,
Speaker 1: and it's I don't and I don't think it's all
Speaker 1: his ability to make plays. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: it is his ability to just get everybody set up
Speaker 1: and they feel better about stuff. You know, it's almost
Speaker 1: like a confidence level. Without him, they're scattered. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just sad. I just it's just sad, you know.
Speaker 1: And I wonder, you know, all of this talk of okay,
Speaker 1: now you've got to look at who your backup left
Speaker 1: tackle is. Now you have to look up what is
Speaker 1: your running game? Now? Everyone felt very prepared coming into
Speaker 1: this game. You have two one thousand yard rushers, but
Speaker 1: now middle linebacker. So this lack of depth that they
Speaker 1: keep finding themselves in this season, how is that going
Speaker 1: to affect free agency? Draft? Yeah? A long time from now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely not a conversation for now, but it's on the horizon.
Speaker 1: Well too, you're gonna have to think about your defensive
Speaker 1: end who actually played didn't play badly yesterday? You know,
Speaker 1: when you look at and what Lawrence was able to
Speaker 1: do play in the run a couple of different times.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had the one sack. It was just
Speaker 1: a little maybe a step late or two on, you know,
Speaker 1: getting maybe one or two more. But David Irving made
Speaker 1: some nice place, yeah, David Irving. Yeah, but yeah, Lawrence's
Speaker 1: sack was big, got him off the field, got him
Speaker 1: an opportunity to stay in it. Just I don't know,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of dirt being thrown on
Speaker 1: these guys this week. I'll be interested to see how
Speaker 1: it all, how they respond. Yeah, that's what you said exactly.
Speaker 1: This is a Garrett Special time, Well, this is a
Speaker 1: Garrett Special all the way. Get ready, this is a
Speaker 1: this is everybody's gonna tell you how damn good Philadelphia is,
Speaker 1: you know, And then and then they're gonna show up
Speaker 1: and something's gonna happen. Yeah, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they pull one out. Honestly, I didn't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: beat Kansas City, and Kansas City beat Philadelphia. You know
Speaker 1: what does that tell you? You know, these teams. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting trying to blow smoke up everybody's rear,
Speaker 1: but I'm just telling you though that this NFL is
Speaker 1: a strange lady. It's a strange lad Just when you
Speaker 1: think that you're getting to you know, just when you've
Speaker 1: got the one foot in the parking lot, get ready,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's all doom and gloom here
Speaker 1: this week. Get ready for everybody talking about the Eagles
Speaker 1: come rolling in and hey, they might roll the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I've seen it too much in
Speaker 1: this NFL. Yeah, I mean they talk about their they rally.
Speaker 1: I mean teams they pull within each other, they pull
Speaker 1: together and they and they block out the outside noise.
Speaker 1: And people talk about the Cowboys not being a good
Speaker 1: great team at home. I'm always more comfortable with them
Speaker 1: when they're back at home and they're not dealing with
Speaker 1: a road crowd noise and defense is pinning their ears
Speaker 1: back against them and stuff. Yeah, I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: play better, but again, you're still faced with and I
Speaker 1: get it. They had a three game win streak, but
Speaker 1: they didn't they were they didn't have they had the
Speaker 1: guys that they lost. Oh you're gonna get the Smith back.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get Smith back. I think you will. I
Speaker 1: think you will. I think he's got the best shot
Speaker 1: of any of them. Sure. Now, now you gotta figure
Speaker 1: out what's going on with the linebacker. You better figure
Speaker 1: that one out. And like Mickey says, how do you
Speaker 1: play that? I ever wrote about that a little bit
Speaker 1: myself last night. How do you? How do you play
Speaker 1: the order of guys? Somebody step up? Make plays? You know, Hey,
Speaker 1: they don't have Jason Peters playing left tackle for them.
Speaker 1: It's fair, you know, go find a way to go,
Speaker 1: find a way to get some pressure. Knock this kid
Speaker 1: around a little bit. You know, he's had some success,
Speaker 1: had a week off, you know, feeling pretty good about themselves.
Speaker 1: Why not? Man again, I'm not trying to cheerlead. Here.
Speaker 1: A strange lady like that girl that you think you
Speaker 1: figured out sure thought that he never think that thought
Speaker 1: she was the one? Right? Go over you go over
Speaker 1: here to talk to her, and you go, whoa, you're not,
Speaker 1: that's not you? Who is this person? Yeah? Who is
Speaker 1: this person? Suddenly she's showing you signs of jealousy and
Speaker 1: she's been cool cucumber this Yeah, just when you think
Speaker 1: she's really cool, all of a sudden, she hit you
Speaker 1: right in the mouth. I don't even know you anymore.
Speaker 1: That's saying start. But cool as a cucumber. Cucumber is
Speaker 1: always cool. Yeah, you have to keep him cold. You
Speaker 1: ever had a warm cucumber on a salad? It's horrible, nasty. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So other than the week before or the last was
Speaker 1: it the last series of the game, wouldn't would have
Speaker 1: been the last time Chaz Green played left tackle in
Speaker 1: a real game. San Francisco. No, I think he played.
Speaker 1: He play were weird game in Detroit or Tampa. One
Speaker 1: of those two games last year been start year when
Speaker 1: he started those two games right right, and that was
Speaker 1: at the beat. That was like game three and four. Well,
Speaker 1: the Tampa game in Detroit was late in the year.
Speaker 1: Those were December. He was out already. He didn't come back. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So so it was a game before that, some type
Speaker 1: of game. He had two stars in the way ego
Speaker 1: early Okay, that's right, because because Smith had to play
Speaker 1: because of the back, because Chaz Green was out, because
Speaker 1: they won games. He ended up he and they won
Speaker 1: Chicago San Francisco. I think Cincinnati three and four. I
Speaker 1: think because he Misco. Well, I think it was San
Speaker 1: Francisco and Cincinnati. Yeah, and he did play well, that's right.
Speaker 1: I don't but he hadn't played right and then Trenny
Speaker 1: Camp it was a lot of he was back up,
Speaker 1: but she tackled, but it was guard, a lot of guard.
Speaker 1: But as Brian said, I mean, he has been practicing
Speaker 1: there and he I talked to him on Friday. He
Speaker 1: said out, yeah, we could practice. Well. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not like he hasn't been taking reps there at least, no.
Speaker 1: I know. But it's give you the speed of the game.
Speaker 1: But that's that's in't that the swing tackles job. I know,
Speaker 1: you gotta be ready, I know. I mean I know.
Speaker 1: Well he started against the Cults and against the Raiders.
Speaker 1: That's preseason this year. Yeah, back to last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll go back to two thousand and sixteen. He started
Speaker 1: against La at La in the preseason. Let me go
Speaker 1: to the regular season Chicago San Francisco three and four.
Speaker 1: He didn't play, He didn't start any at the end
Speaker 1: of this, didn't play any Yeah, he was out. So
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've just seen him play so much
Speaker 1: better than that. It just didn't make sense. It's about
Speaker 1: to be a hard stretch. But I'm gonna I will,
Speaker 1: I will second what Rob said. He was a man
Speaker 1: in the locker room. He stood there in front of
Speaker 1: everybody and basically accepted the blame and talked. Even if
Speaker 1: he hadn't accepted the blame, he talked. He stood there
Speaker 1: like he had a great game, Like I mean, he
Speaker 1: was ready for the questions and took every question like
Speaker 1: he would if he had was almost dominated. He shallered
Speaker 1: and walked up there and goes, okay, let's go, let's
Speaker 1: peel the band aid off. And the thing about it, too,
Speaker 1: is his teammates on the line, we're kind of looking
Speaker 1: around like, my god, you guys are gonna pepper him
Speaker 1: right now with all this, and he just stood there
Speaker 1: and took it. I give him a lot of credit
Speaker 1: for that. Let me ask you this, If Smith can't go,
Speaker 1: who do you start? If Smith can't go, do you
Speaker 1: move things around? If Smith can't go, left tackle, who
Speaker 1: do you start? Lyle Collins move him over? And then
Speaker 1: he was playing right tackle? Probably Bell Taco, always Taco.
Speaker 1: Do you have what do you have? Somebody in mind
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a guess. I'm not asking, I'm
Speaker 1: not pinning you too, and I'm scared to move lay
Speaker 1: all over there. He was struggling on the right side
Speaker 1: for a little bit, a little bit this game a
Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit well, as Frank Pollack said
Speaker 1: after the game, we don't want to lose Chazz. You
Speaker 1: don't want to just kill the kids confidence. They're gonna
Speaker 1: you know, they still have faith in him. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, this has to be a competition. During the week,
Speaker 1: somebody subjected if Tyran can't go oven Zach Martin, but
Speaker 1: then who's going to play the other guard? You Joe Looney, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's Mickey Spignal. That's possibility. Yeah, I just don't like,
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of like two moves to fix one.
Speaker 1: By the way, we need to look at Philadelphia. Where's
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox in those played Here's what guys, here's what
Speaker 1: I looked up. So they've got twenty five sacks as
Speaker 1: a team, they're tied for like it's a four way
Speaker 1: tie for eighth with twenty five sacks. Twenty and a
Speaker 1: half of the sacks are by their front four right
Speaker 1: or the guys that play defensive and defensive tackle. Right,
Speaker 1: so their front is all their sacks. Yeah. Well, on
Speaker 1: that note, thank you guys so much. Who start to
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