WEBVTT - Episode 448 w/ Will Smith 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:13.520 It is drinks Chests, motherfucking podcasts. 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:16.919 He's a legendary queens rapper. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:18.800 He ain't agreed as your boy in o r E. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.759 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer put up as d 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.239 j e f N. Together they drink it up with 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.560 some of the biggest players you know me and the 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:31.800 most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.280 Drink chans mock post every days New Year set It's 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:44.159 time for drink Champs. Drink up? Father? Would it go 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.120 Ben to see? This is your boy in r E 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.040 was going on as dj e f N. It is 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:54.880 mid Save Me Crazy World podcast. Make some Now. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.440 When we started the show, we said that there wasn't 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:00.480 an outlet for people who has been seasoned in this game, 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.960 for people who have been ten years or more with 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.000 the person that we're about to introduce. The person that 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.720 we're talking about. Not only is he season he's making 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:08.400 look good. 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.240 He has dominated every world for when you talk about 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:20.760 with your parents not understanding, to sitcoms to movies, to 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:25.080 dominating goddamn gumming on a goddamn plane. Preach this, motherfucking 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:29.959 don't gear. He is the potential when you think of 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.480 black excellence. When you think of a person who came 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.279 from the hood and made it somewhere and kept going. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.160 This is the fucking picture you should see in the 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:41.240 dictionary for not just black people, for ally more throughout 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.600 the world, for people who made it from the bottle 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.479 and really, really, really made it to the top. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.120 This man has dominated so many feels. We are proud 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.240 of him. We are happy to have him on the show. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.000 In case you don't know what we're talking about, we're. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:56.400 Talking about I'm about to say, fresh Prince. That's That's 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:05.680 where I'm going with you. Yes, we take it, Anna say, 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.799 but you can't forget we're in Philly. Philly, by the way, 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:10.560 let me just tell you something. 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.240 I'm gonna be honest with you, and I know some 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:13.880 people from Philly gonna question this. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.280 This this is what I'm about to say. Well, just 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:21.040 be careful because you still yeah I am. You don't 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.520 know what about to say I am Because, first of 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:24.040 Philly is my. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.520 Number one market from me being from New York and 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.440 even in drink Champs, I believe it's always been on 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.800 top five mark. But this is the first time ever 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.280 I flew to Philly and I've seen clear blue Water. 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.639 Yeah, I was like, did Will Smith by. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:38.600 This? 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:44.320 Mother? A? I phil Blue Water? Like, I mean, come, 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.799 I'm coming from Miami coming. I was like, did you 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:52.200 buy some ship? You know, because I knew ya was coming? Switch? 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.320 We hit this swit. We hit the switch when when 0:02:54.600 --> 0:03:04.359 luminaries coming, you got a street named after you? Congratulations? Man. 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.600 See, are people not only when they get a street 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.800 named after them, but most of the time it's always 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.880 after they pass away, and most of the time almost 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.760 after like they reached their glory days. 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.600 And it's like kind of like when they reached it, 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:27.760 like you're on top for sure, you're not dead, You're 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.680 not that you're well alive. A couple of days last year, 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:35.960 I wish I was, so, how does this happen? May 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.720 I calls you and what do they say? So, you know, 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:43.720 Charlie Max, Charlie, that's my dude, and you know he's 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:47.200 really connected with the city and stuff like that. So he's, uh, 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.560 you know, he's always pushing for stuff like that. That's 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.760 my that's my day one ride or die, you know. 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.480 So they made contact and you know, it's funny. It 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:03.000 was like really changely emotional for me. It's like, you know, 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.760 because I want awards and stuff like that. But the 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.680 it's a it's a street named after me in front 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.640 of my high school. It hits this right, so and 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.080 and it hit real different and my mom is sitting 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.200 there and the mayor presents it, you know, and it 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:24.680 was like and it's called will Smith Way, right, and 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.880 it really it really hit me with the idea of 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.520 like what is the will Smith Way that kids are 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.640 gonna come out and cross the bridge and think about 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:38.560 the will Smith Way? That was? That was so do 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.280 you think that? Do you think your your neighborhood will 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.120 have crime in it? Or you're gonna We're gonna put 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:51.520 we ended that's right. We only only elevated. We only 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:57.359 we only elevated. Were learning and growing and evolving. So 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.000 I'm a bounce around a little bit. I'm gonna have 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.080 a drink. Drink what they got what they put in here? Okay, 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.040 I don't know some will smips. I'm just letting you know. 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.640 I was like I would say, you know, I to 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.600 do like drink champs. I wanted to sit with y'all 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.600 like I'm a drink chump. So we get the lit'sten. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:19.560 We're gonna phrase that I'm gonna be let's yeah, it ain't. 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:24.440 I'm gonna be no good one. Drink. Okay, we have 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.479 a beautiful Philly bartender here, So would you like to 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:28.479 serve with Will Smith? 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:28.800 Drink? 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:35.280 Okay, keep it real. What's your name, Amanda? How you doing? Man? 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:41.720 Just so so we go, okay, all right, boom, we're 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.920 gonna bounce some right. Do you realize. 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.279 It might be my opinion, but I believe everyone else 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:53.520 and in here is probably gonna say the same thing. 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:59.880 Bad Boys franchise might be the best franchise in movie history. 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:04.480 Mmm. Okay, I'll take that. I'll take that. That's definitely 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:08.279 your opinion. You know some people go disagree, Well, name 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.640 somebody who would just we're only talking golf. We only 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.520 talk the god Oh, the Godfather. We only talk Godfather 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:17.520 for sure, God, because that's all seriousness. They were throwing. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.800 Fishes and ship if y'all was throwing fish and somebody 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:21.440 you know, like, yeah, we we have that. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.359 Well we're gonna add some fish next time, be up 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.560 there with the Godfather. But okay, it's hard to do 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:30.960 what we did in Bad Boys. The one thing I'm 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.640 gonna get that I'm gonna give us because you know, 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.880 I can't say it about myself, but I can't. I 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.800 do agree with you. I agree y yeah. But like 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:44.359 twenty seven years after Bad Boys Too, like to be 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:48.839 able to do a third one twenty seven years later, 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.920 and then be able to do a fourth movie and 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:57.000 they all are increasing in in the box office success. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.360 That's that's hard to do. That's hard to do it. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:01.919 That's how I realized how dope it was. And I 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.200 realized how good you was the actor when I realized 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:12.440 you got DJ college and promot. That's true. You're just 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:18.800 going that. I can take it. He's Collage, very funny. 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:22.480 So on on on Bad Boys three, calid. You know, 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:24.800 he was having a hard time with his lines and 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.760 stuff like that. So on Bad Boys four, he decided 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:33.040 he was going to be perfect. So he's stating character. 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.880 So he was. I was like, yo, so listen, like 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:42.000 in the in the parking lot, coming into work, I was, Yo, Cali, 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:49.800 what's up? What's uping? Yo? Hey, what's up. He's stayed 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.880 in character for like two weeks. I didn't see him 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.280 out of character. I was like, Callage, you're doing a lot. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.680 It's just it's Bad Boys you don't have to do 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.840 method active for boys. He stayed in there hard though, 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.080 but he did a He did a really he did 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:08.600 a good job. Like the I've watched the movie in 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:13.360 ten countries and when Cali comes on camera around the world, 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:17.360 audience is like they just he got a thing. People 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.600 just love seeing them. So as my friend Capone walked 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.960 in from Copona and Noriega and I'm thinking about. 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:28.640 Odd Legacies are one of the first records on the album. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.920 By the way, you was starting on the album, Yo. 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:37.280 Yo, I'm listening to that. I'm like, Yo, you're trying 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.480 to show you. I feel like I feelve you had 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.640 something to prove. Yeah, no, I have more than something 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:46.680 to prove. I had something to say, right, And you know, 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.600 I felt like the first track on the album is 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:54.319 called uh Shop interior barbershop. There he was having fun 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.320 on that. I was having fun, right, So what I 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.840 wanted was like, you know, let everybody know, I know 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:05.360 what job saying someone reminded me of somewhat what eminem did, 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.679 like everything about so no one can say right, absolutely 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:13.199 continue because it was based on Eddie Murphy's barbershop scene 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:17.040 from Coming to America, right, So I played three characters 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:21.000 on the track, Jeff play one and be some mom. 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.160 Uh played a character. But what I wanted to do 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.400 was to really to set it to rap. So the 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:31.840 people are talking, but they're talking in rhyme form lines 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.040 back and forth. So I wanted it to be a 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.760 really unique, uh kind of creation where I got to 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:42.160 just say everything that I wanted to say. Uh. It's 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.640 like it's in the back of people's mind. So first track, 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:47.480 I want to get it out so we can, you know, 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.400 open up to talk about what I want to talk about. 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:55.400 Intro right into the track, like Abby Dabby, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.080 So let me ask you. We're standing the burn the forest, 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.080 in a burning forest. Didn't know where I'm going, Yeah, okay, 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.080 we a burning burning forest. You got one bottle of water. 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.079 One bottle of water. This one bottle of water to 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.720 saved somebody. But you got two choices. You got Martin 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.800 Lawrence there, damn, and then you got Jazzy Jeff. Damn. 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:22.560 Wow ended out for me. Damn. It's Martin Lawrence and 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.440 Jazzy Jeff and it's one bottle of water. I heave 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.440 that bitch in the forest and we all die. Together. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.480 I'm gonna say about that component fn I did not 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:40.440 have to answer. God, I'm like, yeah, no way, ain't, 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:41.960 no way, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be able to live 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:43.960 with myself either way. We are, We're gonna all end 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:44.480 it right now. 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.079 Okay, So let's let's speak about Jazzy Jeff, right, because 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.439 that relationship to me, yeah, man, and. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.120 We all know that that is really really good question. 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.960 By the way, about that all that's a really that's like, 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:57.119 that's a really. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.680 But that's a very seldom thing in this industry, right 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:07.440 when you look at people who had twenty five year relationship, right, 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.160 and then God bless me because I'm not coming at 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:10.840 this new generation. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.560 But you see these guys, they last a year or two. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.559 They can't stick with the manager, they can't stick with 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.640 the rol person, they can't stick with everybody. But you 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.960 and Jazzy Jeff have like a thirty year career. 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:21.000 But then you don't. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.600 You don't have them just one. You have this Martin Lawrence, 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.520 the same thing. And then I've read somewhere or heard 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.959 somewhere where Martin Lawrence didn't even want you in Bad Boys. 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:33.319 No, No, it was the other way. The studio didn't 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.880 want me. Martin had the script. Oh wow. Right, so 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.880 the studio didn't want me, and Martin said he wouldn't 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.600 do it if it wasn't with me. Oh wow. Right, 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.840 So Martin wanted he had the script, and you know, 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:49.520 he was looking at Eddie and his sister was like, 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:51.679 you know, I really think you need to do this. 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.920 Oh yes, right, Well, his sister was, I really think 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:55.360 you need to do it with Will And he thought 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.720 about it, and he called me and we had a meeting, 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.240 and then the studio was like, yeah, you know, it's 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:05.880 like both of us were we were successful on TV, 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.720 but we weren't Eddie, right, So they wanted to do 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:10.960 it with Eddie, and Martin was like after we met, 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.600 He was like, no, it has to be well we weren't. 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:17.200 We met. He called me to come to his house 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.880 to pitch Bad Boys, and we met. We had a 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.040 dinner at his house, and we met that night for 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:27.160 Battle Let's yeah, and then just ever since then, it's 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.400 like it's hard. 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:29.880 To have. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:35.760 Real relationships, you know. You know, but like in this business, 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.440 it's hard to have it's hard to have real relationships 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.680 because what happens, especially you know in in movies, you're 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:49.160 talking about you know, five, ten, twenty dollars. When you're 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:54.720 talking about it, you're talking about real talking about Yeah, 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:58.400 we're talking about real money. It's really hard for somebody 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.760 to make a decision for a relationship over a decision 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:08.480 for money, you know. And it's it's like, Martin, is 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.920 you know, one of those relationships. It's like one of 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:16.840 one of my only my real relationships are before movies, 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:18.800 like you know, we and Philly, and you're looking around 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.280 and like, you know, like the youngest of my squad 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:30.760 got twenty years you know, the goal here, you know. 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.560 So it's like, you know, I'm in this season of 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.160 my life. I'm really taking notice to those things. Right 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.200 first day on the set of Bad Boys four, you know, 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.680 I'm doing it. I'm going to go on and Martin said, hey, hey, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:47.000 he said, he said, man, we made three of these 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:52.480 and we don't really remember a lot. He was like, 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.280 we're gonna pay attention for this one, okay. When he said, 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.000 we do remember a lot with me because we just 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.320 like we were running, running, running around, Paying said, he 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:01.880 was like, no, no, no, no, it was day one. He 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.840 was like, no, slow down, And it's like we're gonna 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:09.120 take in, we're gonna live in the experience, you know, 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.400 and it was really good, and we kind of settled down. 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.720 He was like, we're gonna make the movie. It's gonna 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:17.120 be good, or it's gonna not be good. He was like, 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.360 but what we have is our attention, and I was like, 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.360 got it. And we just really just settled down and 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.040 it's like, you know, that's my that's my dude right there. Man, 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:30.320 Like he is as as authentic a person as you 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.760 will ever meet Mark Martin. 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.480 Was it a culture shot going from the music side 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.200 to the Hollywood side? 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.800 It was, Yeah, it was really it was different in 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:46.080 the in the sense that so music is really current, right, 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.840 So you're you're making this stuff, you're in it, and 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.000 it's really current. And then what happens when you into 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.480 television it slows down a little bit. It's like five 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.040 months delay you make something and then it's you know, 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.520 five months before it comes out. Then when you get 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.120 in a movie, it could be two years before it 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:08.680 comes out, and like it just loses the the immediacy 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.560 of it. So for me, that was that was, uh, 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.840 the biggest difference, the biggest difference, Like in the expression 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:17.960 of it. It's like you don't get to you don't 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:23.120 get to create and get it out in a timely 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.280 fashion where you like you're checking in to see how 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.960 people get feedback. You're getting your feedback, right. So it's 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:34.119 it's harder to stay current with with movies and television 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.800 than it is with with music. What about the environment though, 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.280 in terms of that, in terms of the people, Yeah, 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:44.240 you know, I've been I've been blessed man. You know, 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.040 immediately on the Fresh Prince of bel Air, I was 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.240 with Quincy Jones. You know that was his idea, right 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.640 that wash Yeah, so Quincy Jones, it was about him, correct, 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.440 it was Benny Medina was with Quincy Jones. Benny Medina 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.200 was an a n R exact at Warner Brothers, be 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:04.280 a J. Lowe manager. He j Loe's manager, and he 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.560 had an idea. It was based on his life. So 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:13.520 he went from Watts to Beverly Hills and Quincy changed it, 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.600 you know, he changed it to Philly. He was like, 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.840 what's your rap name? I was like, Fresh Prince. He said, Okay, 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.800 that's the character's name, Fresh Prince. Where you're from Philly? 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.440 I said, all from Philly? He said, oh, man, I 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.800 got some stories about Philly. We don't talk about it, 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.600 you know. But Quincy changed it to Philly and then 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.320 he said, Benny, Benn, he grew up in Beverly Hills. 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.440 And we were at Quincy's house and he was like, 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.160 this is bel air. He said, you like this house? 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:39.880 I said, I like this. Yeah. He said, yeah, bell 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:44.720 A make Beverly Hills look like public housing. He was like, 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.320 you know, buck Beverly Hills, it's bel air. So Quincy 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.360 changed it, like literally in one night. He changed it 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:54.240 to Philadelphia to bel Air and named the show The 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:58.840 Fresh Prince of bel Air. Yeah before you before before 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:03.680 been in audition that time. Were you the first rapper 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.200 doing a sitcom? Yeah okay yeah yeah, so fresh the 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.560 the uh now I got to ask home before you 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:13.040 go because at that time, doing anything commercial, yeah, it 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.760 was all bad. It was round upon, Yeah, you're making 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.959 this round upon. That's a light, that's the like light. 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.160 It was like it was doing a foul ship. Yeah, foul. 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:26.240 That ship was whack. People get hard. Was whack. That 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.720 ship was corny and will Smith as ship. All right, 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:31.679 but you're making the money. 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.080 You got the hollywoodlights and you go from Philly to 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:36.440 actually real Hollywood. 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:41.040 How was that experience? You know, it was more than 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.760 Philly Hollywood that was hard. It was the Philly l 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:47.800 A that was hardy. Like they got different rules in 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.520 l A. And it's it's like, you know, you you 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.639 you learned the hard way walking around in LA with 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:57.760 your red Phillies baseball cap boy, Like, yeah, that ship 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.160 I didn't even know. I was like we was learning, 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.720 learning the hardware out there. It's like they just got this. 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:08.440 It's it's different, different rules, you know. So it's the 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.720 the first thing was like trying to just get the 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.280 lay of the land of how to you know, how 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:22.280 to move out there in terms of Hollywood. I guess 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:27.200 really like the the big issue in the transition U 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:31.320 for me was more about acting. The difficulty was about 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:35.760 acting versus rapping. It's a whole different thing to like 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:39.719 be looking in somebody's eyes and say a line from 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:45.240 the sitcom to the movie well no, no, from from music. Yeah, 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.640 it's not. It was like the really different, different thing 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:53.240 that was hard for me. And I was like nolthing 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.560 people's lines and stuff like that. So it was like learning. Yeah, 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.480 it was terrible. It was terrible. That the big transition 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.879 was like Quincy never asked if I could act. He 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.240 just he saw my music video, so he assumed that 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.520 I could act. So I was on the set of 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.639 The Fresh Prince of bel Air and never have really 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:16.199 done anything, you know, So it was like that, but 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.480 you know, Quincy had the power to do that. 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.520 What was your first serious role, because you know, at 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.119 the end of the day, they all thought, you know, 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.800 rappers are fat, right, and then you know you're on 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:29.359 The Fresh Prince and it's working. But then it's it's like, 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.400 you know, I know Jamie Fox was like the Ray character, right. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.920 What was your first serious role besides Muhammad Ali? 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.800 The first was I did I did a movie I think, 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:45.800 uh sex second season of Fresh Prince called six Degrees Separation, Yes, okay, separation. 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:50.800 So that was my first you know, attempt at dramatic acting. 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.320 But on the on The Fresh Prince, really the father 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:59.920 scene with Uncle Phil was like the first that first 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:06.800 of I don't want to watch that, don't do that? 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:16.360 How come he don't want me? Man? It's like, that's 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:21.239 damn myself. But yeah, that that that scene was like 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:25.879 the first time you know where where it was like 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:31.800 looking to expand and be able to you know, hold 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:35.480 a dramatic scene. And James, you know, everybody on that 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:41.120 show was like stage trained veterans. Joe Marcel was from 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:45.440 the Royal you know, uh, British Academy, you know, and 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:50.360 you know Janet Hubert written you know, was a triple 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:54.679 Broadway threat, you know, singing, dance and acting. Like so 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.640 everybody had intimidating for you. It was it was really, 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:01.960 it was really intimidating, but it was it was love. 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.479 Everybody you know wanted me to win. In the beginning 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.399 was a little bit, I think because rappers was taking actors' jobs, 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:12.160 so that wasn't a good look for that. English people 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:16.600 are taking America. Yeah, they don't like that. It's like, 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:21.199 you know, they they they are well trained though, you know, 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.320 and that's a that's the thing, uh, especially with with 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:30.560 like with black actors in America, because the opportunities aren't 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:34.639 the same. We're not. It's like we don't get you know, 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:40.480 stage training to prepare for for acting. It's like it's 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:43.800 it's a really it's we do it from a much 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:48.359 more from the muscle natural space, and our training is 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:56.080 actually on the job, you know, whereas you know British actors. Yeah, 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.960 I mean they did. They listen, they're doing the damn 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:01.440 thank you. So. 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.440 So we have a game on our shows called quick 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:05.960 Time with Slim right where we take you ask questions 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.040 and we take shots. If you don't want to take shots, 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.440 you can have somebody from Philly who represents you coming 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:12.680 place and take your shots. Or maybe you have one 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:14.480 or two shots. 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:17.280 You can take a shot. You can take a shot. 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:29.480 You want Japanese whiskey, you know, like a Japanese listen, 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:35.080 just give me the So you gotta get ready. You're 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:38.760 gonna get ready because this first question is mine. Everybody 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:42.399 back up. Everybody back up. It's not even on this 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:44.280 is not even it's not even on the list. 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:44.600 Alright. 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:53.439 I do not recommend that I do not recommend that 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.159 you know you're a fly motherfucker. I got Japanese whiskey 0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:00.480 just in case you want from the else of of Tokyo. 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.520 From the House of I don't know, I don't know, 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.680 I don't know, said from the alf. 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.360 I'm trying to make it sounds gonna have me message 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:17.280 from the Tokyo. Alright, this is a question. There you go. 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.880 She from the Prince world universe and if I get 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:22.640 it now, we're gotta remember some of the rules. 0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:25.800 No, you gotta tell them. You telling these rules. And 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:32.080 because you're making this ship up, yeah, you know, so 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:33.840 we got Tokyo. 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:34.080 Right. 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:34.960 What we do. 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:38.719 Is that we asked the Japanese question. 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:43.119 You know, we're gonna give you two choices. 0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.760 Yes, you pick one. We're not drinking. But if you 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.000 don't pick, we're drinking. Okay, So you can say both 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:51.040 and neither. We're drinking both or neither, we're drinking okay. 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.040 All right, So we want stories. This is all to 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:54.480 bring up story. 0:23:54.600 --> 0:24:00.600 All right. This is a lifelong fresh friends question, right, 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:09.280 that's that's what you like that Instagram? This morning you 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:14.480 was practicing and I said, does anybody have questions? Will? 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.359 And this question popped up so much, so many times 0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:20.080 and so fast, because everyone knows about this game is 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:22.080 called quick timas line you give. 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:26.240 Them, it's called quick Thomas Live. So everyone knows. Everyone 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:26.560 knows this. 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:30.080 So soon as we I texted, I texted the picture 0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.280 that with me you or Charlie Matt And this is 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:32.840 the first one. 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.280 And this is a very important one. 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:41.960 Remember this or that, this or that said neither. 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:56.440 Speak Vivian. 0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:02.760 Because I want to say it politically correct in one VIV. 0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:04.480 One or or VIV two. I'm trying to say what 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:05.600 I'll say I'm doing as another one. 0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:09.960 I hear the bottles in the forest drinking. 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.680 Slow? 0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.960 How many times in your life it has people ask you, 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:24.879 doesn't it so it doesn't burn when you drink it? 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.040 Oh and burn? I'm just trying to be you like 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:32.240 you will slip that definitely burns. That's tasty though. Oh yeah, 0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:47.200 like that's from the the full set up. How many 0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:51.000 times have you been to ask that question? Oh my god? Yeah, yeah, 0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:56.119 you know it is. It was one of the most 0:25:57.600 --> 0:25:59.880 like difficult times in my life. 0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.880 Right, you know, because you don't understand it's a job 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:04.800 you have a relationship with. 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.120 Yeah, it's like you know what on on those kind 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.840 of sets you take on the relationships of your character. 0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.760 It's like your set parents. Yeah, right, so it's like 0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:17.199 it's real, that's real relationships. You go. You know, it's like, 0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:21.280 you know, this is your first relationship. Yeah, and it's 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:25.639 like that that that that loss, that that's I'm not 0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:29.240 a man that's prone to too much regret, you know, 0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:32.159 because I believe things happen, and they you know, if 0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.679 you're if you're happy today, you gotta you know, accept 0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:38.200 that it's because of the things that went right and wrong. 0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.239 And you know, but that that was that was a 0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:44.680 you know, Janet and I are magnificent uh friends now, 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.720 but that that was a very very very hard time 0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:56.040 for me. And it was like, I didn't see you, 0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.840 said Jenny aunt Janet. First, I don't want people don't 0:26:59.960 --> 0:27:09.240 like I'm just talking about crazy. Yeah, the first hand 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:15.640 of Janet, Janet Hubert written, she was she she's magnificent, right, 0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:21.520 and you know, my young arrogant eyes couldn't see that, 0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:25.880 you know. And it's like just the depth and the 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:32.000 power that she she brought to the show. I just 0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.240 I was I was missing it. I just I couldn't, 0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:38.240 you know. When I look back, it's it's like it's 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:41.040 really you know, it was obvious what she was bringing. Uh. 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:45.080 But Daphne, you know, Maxwell Reid, you know, cultivated a 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:48.960 beautiful relationship you know with her, But it was a 0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:57.919 really Janet is a special kind of you know, beautiful 0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:02.720 talented power were full. You know, she was she was 0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:07.440 holding it down and I certainly wasn't wasn't seeing how 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.320 powerful and important she was to the show. 0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.159 Now it's always these rumors that Michael Jackson is like 0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.600 a gangster on the side, right, is content Ban's gang 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:16.000 banging on? 0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:22.160 I mean no, no, let me tell you that is 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:28.800 one of the most committed comedic actors I have ever met. 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:36.120 But nobody commits like he commit when he listened when 0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:37.960 he goes part of one of the you know, I've 0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:41.360 really learned my comedic acting on the set of The 0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:45.640 Fresh Prince of bel Air. And the thing that Alfonso 0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.520 does is like, even when he doesn't like something, you know, 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.479 he always gives it one hundred percent. His thing was like, 0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.600 let the writers see if you if you tanked the 0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.600 joke and you don't give it all, they're gonna think 0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.920 that it didn't work because you sabotage it. And he 0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.240 really taught me a you like, you know with that 0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.880 Carlton dances stuff like when he goes, he goes, and 0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:12.760 it's like you you can feel, uh, the power and 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:16.400 the fun of his commitment. It's funny because he commits 0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:20.320 so hard to to the joke. Yeah, he's he's a 0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:26.800 he's a unique breed. Okay, I'm gonna take another shot 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:36.800 you because I got you just gonna take a shelt. 0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:40.840 I got a Chris question. You got to question this 0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:46.560 for me? Shot look like rules. 0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:50.560 Okay, let me just say, Philly, yeah, you take a 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:51.320 shot before. 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.360 They hold on hold. You know what I'm gonna I'm 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:56.400 gonna go to the next one. You know what you're correct? Yeah, 0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:01.840 rapping or acting? Rapping? Man. So here's the thing I 0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:07.920 think I am. I'm more naturally an actor, really right. 0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:16.800 I think that the what my mind most naturally falls 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:20.360 into it as far as entertainment. I saw you reached 0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:21.280 for it and then you pull back. 0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:21.640 You can. 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:30.560 You just want to drink? He was breaking it down 0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.040 so good. I was like, really came out of me, 0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:37.240 by the way, Yes, it has such. 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:51.080 A beautiful soul, my god, like another one what you said? 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:57.400 So I'm more naturally an actor, right, but my love 0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:03.760 is hip hop right, And it's like, you know, acting 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:06.640 is when it comes out of me like I can 0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.280 when I can go into a character, like I can 0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.840 transform my mind and my eyes when I look at 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:16.000 somebody and fall into a character. It's like really it's 0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:39.440 natural for me yo. And it's it's like it's like 0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:46.080 moving moving your energy and attention around in your inside 0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:50.440 your body, right, so I can like fall into you know, 0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:54.440 what did that motherfucker say? I hear your brother say 0:31:54.440 --> 0:32:04.040 it again? I just don't wire right now? Right, So 0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:08.840 that like, and I've always been able to do that, 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:12.680 to like see something and mimic a character. So I've 0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:16.600 always been able to u mimic it, and as I 0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:20.200 got older, I could like fall into the emotion of 0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:23.520 it where it changes the look on your face, it 0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:27.800 changes your it changes your eyes, it changes your body 0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.320 language and just you know, so I've always been able 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.600 to do that naturally you. 0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.720 Learned that with time or you did you ever have 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:35.520 to take classes? 0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:39.000 So I never so I naturally could mimic, right, So 0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:42.040 I would look at how somebody walked, or I would 0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:46.120 listen to somebody's voice, and I could I could copy. 0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:51.360 And then as I got older, like copying is shallow, right, 0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:55.400 but then where does the emotion come from? And being 0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:58.280 able to find the deeper and deeper place and layers 0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.640 as I got to know myself better. Actors call it 0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:04.720 a toolbox where you have a toolbox where like so 0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.400 for example that the fresh scene, fresh print scene, you 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.840 were talking about the father scene. I use the father 0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:15.239 scene to find sadness, so I'll use that for you know, 0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:20.000 for King Richard. For example, there was the scene with 0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:23.000 about Venus Serena. Yeah, for that. There was a scene 0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:28.480 where at the at the net with Venus before he 0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:32.840 lets her go and play. I watched the fresh Print 0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.280 scene before that. It's a prep right, so I prepped 0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.920 to like get you watch yourself to prep for yourself. Yes, 0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:49.680 I respect that. So but the music, there is nothing 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:55.440 like being on stage and fifty thousand people here drums please, 0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.480 you know, and it's like that moment when people realize 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.840 you about to do the song they've been waiting for. 0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.800 That's the top of entertainment. That is the top when 0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:08.160 they hear the first couple clicks up the record, that's 0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.400 the one they wanted to hear. There's nothing there's nothing 0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.360 like that in entertainment. So that's that's my It's my 0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:18.560 my love versus what I'm actually best at. 0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.480 But you know, the but you was dope about you 0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.160 that I've noticed throughout your career, no matter how Hollywood 0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.640 you went, and you were always hip hop. 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:34.200 And infusing men in black when you brungs And then 0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.000 I was watching that the scene today and it was 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:36.920 like y'all didn't even talk. 0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.759 And I'm like I remember actually being in a movie 0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.960 theater and god bless me white people, but they didn't 0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:45.600 know what. 0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.319 The communication was. They were just like they going, that 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.920 was alien to I wonder if you'll start a popcorn 0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:57.120 you know what I'm saying that, But you always keep 0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.120 how did you? How do you do that? Likew What 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:04.520 it is is the it's the it's the thing that's 0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:09.880 unique about what I bring. Right. So it's like you know, 0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:15.359 being being born and raised in Philly and in hip hop, 0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:20.520 it's the it's the thing that's uniquely me right at 0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.160 your core, at my core. So when I bring that, 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.920 you know, ninety percent of the character can be comprehensible 0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:32.000 to you know, general audiences, but then you add that 0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:36.560 little sauce that is the unique special sauce. So for 0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:40.839 me in terms of hip hop, like you'll never see 0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:45.440 in any movie ever where they beat box as an 0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:51.239 alien language, right, Like that's like I love that. It's 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:55.160 like only I can do that, right, you know, Like 0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.200 I said, I was so mad at the movie people 0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.799 didn't get it. I was like, yet, my god, yeah 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:03.000 that but even to call Biz to do it right, 0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:07.000 to know that I want Biz to do that piece, 0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:09.680 you know, And it's like a R P B is 0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:15.600 r B. Yeah, God, damn, I have to look you 0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:18.440 get all right? All right? 0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.080 The first one, now hold on, let me I got this. 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:24.000 Another one is also off the off off the menu 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.480 of off the menu, Jay z or Nas. 0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.920 Think about it. They got you, both of them got 0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:38.799 your number. That's important. Damn. That's a hard one too. 0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:44.880 That's how I want to who's more petty? No, I 0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:48.200 have more more. I have more of an interaction with 0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:54.399 with with Jay z uh But I think I think 0:36:54.560 --> 0:37:01.000 that for I'm I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go Nas 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.160 on that one. I'm gonna go Nas, I'm gonna go. No, 0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.239 just took us here, they said, no, yeah, yeah, No. 0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.640 I mean I have more of a relationship with with 0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:15.759 with Jay, but I think not Nas has made me 0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:20.239 study rapping more. Like when I hear Nas, I'm like, damn, 0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.239 I'm way off the fucking bark, mark, I got I 0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.320 gotta get to work, you know. So yeah, Na Nas 0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:30.759 pushes me into study more. Okay, because you. 0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:39.440 Yeah, exactly there you thinking about that, So you have 0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:43.359 to answer yeah, not a lifelong but a very long 0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:45.440 time in Queens. 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:49.880 The rumor is that NAS helped you with Jiggy with It, 0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:55.680 so we not Jiggy with During the time that I 0:37:55.880 --> 0:38:01.440 was working on Jiggy, NAS did uh just Cruising. It 0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:03.759 was a record called Just Cruising, right, So me and 0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:08.240 me Ands wrote Just Cruising together and I let Nas 0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:13.400 listen to the album and he was like yes, no, yes, no, 0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:16.960 yes no, And I was like, so we did. We 0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:20.719 didn't do any writing together other than the Just Cruising track, 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.920 but you know, an executive cruiser. Yeah, he was, well, 0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.120 he was not really an executive producer. He was there 0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:27.759 and I was like, yo, will you listen to this 0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:31.719 and tell me what you think you know? And you know, 0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.080 he was honest. He was. He was really honest. And 0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.640 then we wrote one together. We wrote Just Cruising. It 0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.000 was like a B side of Men in Black or so. 0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.600 Because he's never confirmed or did not like, yeah, yeah, 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.080 come up to him like you we know you would. Yes. 0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:55.200 I don't know if he laughed, he just yeah. We definitely, 0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:57.719 we definitely worked in the studio together. I think we 0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.680 might have messed around with two or three other songs, 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:04.560 but just Cruising is the only one that ever was released. 0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.400 Okay, so let me ask you because listening to this album, 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:12.000 first off, I was very very impressed. One I'm not 0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:13.640 impressed because. 0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:16.200 Of what you did. 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:21.040 I'm impressed because I was trying to figure out with's 0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.399 this hunger right? Because all of us to make music, 0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.680 we have to have hunger right, and then when you're 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:27.480 not hungry no more, it's harder. 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.560 To make use it. So I'm sitting there, this is 0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:30.440 what I'm trying to tell you. 0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:34.120 I was, you know, first off, your people who sent 0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:37.359 the album big up to the lexing them this will 0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:38.160 never be bootlegged. 0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:43.880 Oh by the way, my face scare. Did you get 0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:49.759 maybe download downloaded? Like dirty years working ship? I was 0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:52.840 just like yo, I said, for whoever your team is, 0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:56.960 it's so official. Listen to me. They can send this 0:39:57.040 --> 0:40:02.960 ship to the bootlegging place in Kenya, Toby running the house, 0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.959 and they still can't bootleg this shit. I just being honest. 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.080 It took three of us in one car to go 0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:10.319 through the whole album. But here's what I was saying. 0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.120 I kept listening, and I kept saying, I kept saying, 0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:15.719 where's he going to slack at? 0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:17.920 Where's he going to say, you know what, I'm this 0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:23.480 you know movie star, I'm this guy that reached order accolades. 0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:25.960 I'm so crazy now that I do white boy sports 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:26.400 and you. 0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:29.919 Know what I'm saying, like, I'm but I'm still black. 0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:33.640 And then but then you come in this album and 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:37.080 I'm trying to find but I was so jealous because 0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:40.080 I couldn't find you not being hungry. I still felt 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:43.960 that hunger. I still heard French fresh Prince, and I'm 0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.400 jealous of that because you know, if me and a 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:48.920 poem right now going to make a Worr report, I 0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.920 don't think we can I can have that same attitude. 0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:54.080 I'm not speaking for him. I'm speaking for myself. And 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:54.640 so I was. 0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.279 I was jealous because it took me a whole day 0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:00.080 to download it. So when I finally because you know, 0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.640 I'm not that smart, but I had two smart people. 0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:04.960 And it got them. So I was like, I would say, 0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:07.520 it's not just me, but going through it, and then 0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.440 I went back through it and I was just like, 0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:14.040 I can't see how you locked in? 0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.600 Did you go to like Bali or somewhere like how 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.440 could you lock in and and and block the world 0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.160 out and focus on this because it's one it sounds 0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:23.080 like you super focused. 0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.279 Two it sounds like you still love the game, love it. 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:27.480 That's the problem. 0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:29.879 That's the part that I'm mad like because I'm like, damn, 0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:33.120 how could he be the way made more than me? 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:37.680 Obviously have more eccolas and all on wins and things 0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.040 like that, But how does he still have that hunger? 0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.239 That's that's that's that's the question for me personally and 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:44.319 not even for the world. 0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:48.760 Like I felt that hunger in you. So what happened blood? 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:52.839 I ain't got a blunt That's how good that question was. Now, 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.680 what happened? What happened with me? Man? Is you know 0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:59.000 in the in the last couple of years, like I 0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:03.839 really just it down, you know, and you know, really 0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.480 after the Oscars, I just shut it down, and I 0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.040 did a real deep dive, Like I looked at I 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:19.160 looked at myself as honestly as I could, and I 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:23.400 looked at all of the parts of myself that I 0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:28.080 always thought of as not for public consumption. Right, So 0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.360 there was a Will Smith, and there was an in 0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:34.000 an image, and there was an an an identity of 0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.880 Will Smith. But that was only my good qualities it 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.480 was only the best of me. You're saying, what swift 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:45.360 to the public, right, Yes, Will Smith to the public 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:47.960 was only the best of me. Will Smith wasn't allowed 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:48.160 to be. 0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:51.719 Beautiful the beautiful post that you you posted, and you 0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:53.640 posted what you on the island, then you showed that 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:54.600 it was blue behind you. 0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.880 So you're saying like something like that's that that you 0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:00.920 know that that was a one way to do it. 0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:05.880 But the idea that you never saw me not smiling, 0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.480 right right, but you could probably imagine there was some 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:12.239 times when I wouldn't be smiling. It's just that wasn't 0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:16.120 for public consumption, you know, So you know there was 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.200 there was. It was just the best qualities of me. 0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:23.240 So then you know, I was forced into a situation 0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:26.360 where I had to be honest that I don't just 0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:30.440 have good qualities. I have some things that I have 0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:36.400 pushed down. I have you know, fear, I have confusion, 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:41.319 I have anger, I have sadness. Oh you're human, yeah, 0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:41.840 oh yeah. 0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:48.080 You know that's probably the most beautifulest thing. And I 0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:49.560 know you spoke about it, but I won't. But what 0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:52.239 I'm saying is the most beautiful thing about you is 0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:56.520 you own your humanness. Yes, and and you know, I'm 0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:59.600 gonna be honest and I'm bouncing around. But I always 0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:02.320 related to the five percent nation or like the Muslims 0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:04.400 a little bit more than the preachers, because the preachers 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.560 showed me that they didn't have mistakes. But when I 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.000 seen you know, the five percenters, I've seen the FOI 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.360 handing out the newspaper. I seen that brother messing up before, 0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:14.200 so it made me relate to them all. 0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.160 So that's that's what you know, what I'm saying. So 0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:18.440 that's what I feel like with you. 0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:22.440 But my thing is you've never lost a step, and 0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:24.399 if you did, I guess you was just a minute 0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.080 that but you didn't show it to the world. 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.399 How can you do that? So for me, now now 0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:34.920 this about this time, this phase of you know, my 0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:39.319 career and really this phase of my life is as 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:42.680 I looked into myself in that way and I like 0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:47.320 really confronted those parts of myself that my humanity, not 0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:51.280 the just the straight Superman winning all the time, the happy, 0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.640 happy Superman winner. Right when I started confronting those other 0:44:54.719 --> 0:45:01.239 parts of myself, something really magical happened. Right as I like, 0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:04.480 the best way I can describe it is like imagine, 0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:07.960 like you know, I pushed my anger down and I 0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:13.840 held it and then it popped and then I was like, okay, 0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:16.560 I'm not going to pretend like you're not there, like 0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:20.080 let's talk, right, and I really like confronted it. And 0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:22.960 then it's almost like there was a hole under my 0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:25.680 anger that my anger was plugging. But inside the hole 0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:30.720 was great shit. It was great creativity and great power 0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:33.920 and like new ideas. And it was like by not 0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:37.440 accepting that part of myself, I was cutting off the 0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:41.400 good that it could offer me. It's like it's like 0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:46.920 there's no bad qualities, there's no bad qualities in you. 0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:52.680 There are things that are neglected that will be a superpower. 0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:57.520 If you befriend your anger, if you befriend your sadness, 0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:01.719 not try to get rid of it, befriended, befriend the 0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:05.440 fact that you're scared, Like be okay that you're scared. 0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:08.040 You still got dude of shit, but don't pretend like 0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:11.080 you're not scared. Like be scared, but still do it. 0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:16.319 Like when you befriend those energies versus like fighting them, 0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:20.279 they become superpowers. They become your army. So like you 0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:23.839 have this army of energies, and that's the place where 0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:28.120 I am right now. Like the good qualities that I 0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:31.360 thought were the strongest, will Smith, that's not. It's like 0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:35.440 now those qualities are backed up by all of these 0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:41.680 other energies that are like having been cleansed, like not 0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:43.920 you don't want them to drunk drive through your life. 0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:47.240 But now they've been like cleansed, and now they're giving 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:51.280 me gifts. They're giving me poetry, they're giving me power, 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.400 they're giving me patience, they're giving me certainty, you know. 0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:57.640 So to me, there's a long way to answer the 0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:03.440 question the hunger I'm from. Like, I got cheat codes, right, 0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:05.439 I got cheat codes. I want to, Like I want 0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:07.919 to share cheat my cheat codes. I want to, Yeah, 0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:19.200 I want to. I'm not. I never thought I needed derby, dude, 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.160 like the way you broke, I want you need to 0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:25.640 be a defist, like or like tell somebody your dirty 0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.319 because I was I was so in like I want 0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:33.080 to you know how when it's I'm like, yo, can 0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:36.839 we tell you that was so? That was so dope, man, 0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:38.560 that's so dope man. 0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.359 And I noticed a cliche question, And I'm gonna get 0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:42.360 back to quick time of slim. 0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:43.799 But did you have a thing that you would make 0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:48.320 it this far? H man. I've been beyond my dreams 0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:53.600 for like twenty years. I've been beyond anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:58.560 like you know now and it's like I'm in unknown 0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:02.359 territory right now. I have no idea where this is going. 0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:08.320 I have no idea you know what's happening. But you know, 0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:11.440 if you think of it as a wave, right, I 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:16.120 know I can surf, right. So I'm like, you know, life, 0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:22.480 bring it back? Yeah, right, right, I don't know like 0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:27.080 things are. So when I when I was saying cheat codes, right, 0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:30.920 so one of the first things there's a there's a 0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:33.000 song on an album called you can Make It. You 0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:37.160 can make It. It's a Monday, yes, so one of 0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:39.279 the cheat codes around you can make it? Right, So 0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:42.799 as I as I sit in this room right now, right, 0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:50.480 so a bunch of black men, you know, and you know, 0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:56.480 we would never admit we're having a hard time, right, 0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:58.600 but you don't have to tell me. I know you are. 0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:04.320 I know you are, and I can be here and 0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:08.000 I can make it harder for you, or I can 0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:12.640 be here to have you be stronger when I leave, right, 0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:18.719 but what I used to think that you know, you know, 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:23.160 I got to defend myself. I don't have to defend 0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:26.719 myself from you. We both having an equal hard time. 0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:30.479 If I don't aggress upon you, you're not going to write. 0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:35.759 It's like if you know that I know that you're 0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:38.160 having a hard time, and that I don't want to 0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:42.000 be any part of why it's more difficult for y'all, right, 0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:45.600 And it's like like that's a cheat code. Like that's 0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.320 a real cheat code. People see it in your eyes 0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:51.239 when you know they're having a hard time and you 0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:54.319 don't want to make it harder. They also see when 0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:58.239 you don't give a fuck, if they see you don't 0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:00.600 give a fuck, not a part of them that don't 0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:04.759 give a plut you know what I mean. Yeah, So 0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:07.600 it's like to me, it's like part of the part 0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.560 of that cheat code of entering rooms and entering interacting 0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:13.759 with people. It's like, I don't know what it is, 0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:18.240 but I know every single person in here is struggling 0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:22.360 with something, with something right, and at different levels. You 0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:26.480 know some you know, somebody's going through a breakup, and 0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:30.160 you know somebody you know lost some money that they 0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:35.080 really needed. Somebody that got a loved when it just died. 0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:39.120 You know, somebody's family is fighting over something. You know, 0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:44.200 everybody's lifing, right, So it's a cheat code to don't 0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:46.960 get lost on the person in front of you, even 0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:51.080 if they're aggressing. They're aggressing because life is fucking you. 0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:54.920 It's what's not you. Life is hurting them, and they 0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:59.919 even may perceive that you're aggressing just how you walk. 0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:02.600 It don't even have to be you. They could they're 0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:08.319 perceiving that you're aggressing, and they're prepared to hurt you. Right. 0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:12.520 But it's like the cheat code is just know that 0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:16.399 don't even don't even go into that energy space with them, 0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.719 you know, and you know for me, like that song 0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:22.719 you can make It, It was like that was part 0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:28.120 of the discovery, like you know, don't don't get distracted 0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:31.239 from the fact of every step you take is affecting 0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:34.400 people's lives as you move, right. So that was what 0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:37.000 part of the idea of you you can make it 0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:40.920 is like keeping in my mind when I'm looking at people, 0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:43.360 I'm saying, you can make it. I don't know what 0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:45.560 it is, brother, but I know you got it. You 0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:49.160 got it. You know. And it's like holding that energy 0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:51.920 as a real cheat code because then people want to 0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:56.200 help you when they feel like you're open to want 0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:58.400 to help them. Voter want to help you. But it 0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:03.239 takes vulnerability to open that. Men don't. We don't do 0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:06.600 that with each other. Right, So for me when I 0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:11.480 come downstairs, brothers, it's welcome to Philly, like like like 0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:14.480 I want you to enjoy it and have fun with 0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:18.279 you in Philly, you know. And it's like I want 0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:20.400 you to feel safe and have a good time. I 0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:26.440 got cheese steaks for you, you know. And it's like 0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:32.800 that energy is an energy of abundance. You like you, 0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:37.000 You build things, you make friends, you build relationships, You 0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:41.799 create a safe space around you. When you start from 0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:47.600 that mindset that the person is going through something, it's 0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:49.960 like you're trying to reverse the idea of hurt people 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:53.200 hurt people. Yes, absolutely, trying to reverse absolutely, you know. 0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:56.239 But I want to say something because the rollout that 0:52:56.920 --> 0:53:00.759 your family, the people that work with you, you've seen 0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:02.239 you a million dos work for games. We've seen you 0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:05.200 on what's the guy name that tells everybody to stop 0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:06.600 smoking in his airbnb? 0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:10.400 You did play Boy back. 0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:14.480 And you did drink chances and when you're looking at that, 0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:17.200 you're sitting back saying, damn, your team knows what they're doing. 0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:19.000 They're shifting with the time. 0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:20.719 A lot of people would have went to, you know, 0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:24.760 the traditional radios, which you had you dropping an album, 0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:28.879 so obviously you want the radio splays. But right now, 0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:34.120 black young, unscripted media is running the world. So the 0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:36.640 fact that your team knew that, Like, I watched it 0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:38.960 and I'm sitting back and I'm like, whoever's on your team, 0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:40.560 they know exactly what they're doing. 0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:41.719 So here's my question. 0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:45.480 You knowing that now that black young media is running 0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:51.920 the thing, where is Overbrooks Podcast Company? Where's Overbrooks Production Company? 0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:55.040 For the young directors? Putting young next? Willsmith for the 0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:58.680 young next, Kevin Hart, that's here? Eat was like me, 0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:02.440 he chis with because I know you brought cheese steaks 0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:03.279 and you trust. 0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:06.000 Me, I'm gonna be judgment to home. Helpy came up 0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:07.440 and said, I forgot the cheez whiz. I said, I'm 0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:08.439 judging you on both times. 0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:12.480 I'm here from Philly. But but but that's you know, 0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:18.879 it's something that I learned and I had to learn 0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:21.920 going through it because I had to go through it. Nas, 0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.720 who he spoke about earlier. Nas could have had Copona 0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:27.279 Nori Jega sign. He could have had Mob Deep sign, 0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:29.400 he could have had a Z sign, he could have 0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:31.560 had Foxy Brown sign. But he chose to kind of 0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:34.880 be our friends right when we wanted. We might have 0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:38.440 wanted our leader at that time. So if you look 0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:40.960 at Nas and that's my brother, you know what I'm saying, 0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:43.160 them before I got here. But then you look at Jay. 0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:48.400 Jay didn't really care about him being your leader or not. 0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.920 He wanted to make good business. So if you look 0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:53.000 at that, but then if you look at them both, 0:54:53.160 --> 0:54:55.160 that's what you are like, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:58.400 you're a person who has the movies, your person who 0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:01.480 has the music. And then and obviously podcasts is this 0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:04.279 a new thing? And I'm sitting back like, why isn't Overbrook? 0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:07.239 You know that virsion of our heart, know how our 0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:09.719 heart has all this? And then you got you got 0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:13.439 Netflix and God bless us. Right we made Netflix and Chill. 0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:16.600 That was a dude that was born during COVID and 0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:19.719 said Netflix and Chill and the whole ship, this is 0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:22.600 our people. When is our people who are at that 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:25.880 top going to invest into people, whether it's that that 0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:28.279 bottom or whatever. And I'm not just saying overbook, it's 0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:31.600 just like I kind of feel like black folks or 0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:34.840 hip hop folks should invest in hip hop now. So 0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:36.959 here's so, was that a good question? First? 0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:39.000 That that was really good? You felt good about it. 0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:48.320 I'm like it was like it was sharp, it was 0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.759 a little bit it was yeah, but I want you 0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:55.160 to answer, we need blacks to invest in blacks? 0:55:55.640 --> 0:56:06.880 Yes, cheers cherious, Yes, So that one. No, so right, So, 0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:13.239 first of all, it's it's always been the case right 0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:18.440 that my manager, Miguel, he's still in here, he would 0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:24.719 he would always say what's urban is suburban? Right? So 0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:33.120 so our community has always led right, so uh always 0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:36.160 let right. So it was you know, brands, you know 0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:41.000 before run DMC were always looking at what was happening 0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:43.920 and they say, yes, absolutely, they were always looking at 0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:47.000 what happened in the inner city. And then once run 0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:52.200 DMC really they they broke the barrier. They didn't have 0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:54.920 a deal with Adidas. They were wearing Adidas before they 0:56:55.000 --> 0:57:00.879 had to deal with and then they were like, oh, 0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:05.160 got it right, So Adidas didn't even know their sales 0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:10.000 were spiking because run DMC was wearing Adidas. Right, So 0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:15.640 that the idea of the the the inner cities and 0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:23.160 urban communities leading in in you know, fashion and branding 0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:28.760 as we've always been that. So in terms of you 0:57:28.840 --> 0:57:33.400 know the question of why we don't do that, so 0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:40.240 we do do it, it's it's bandwidth is an issue. Right. 0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:46.080 So you know, I know Kevin Heart's company, you know, 0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:52.240 Heartbeat Overbrook, big y'all up man, we got yes, yes, yeah, yeah, 0:57:52.400 --> 0:57:56.440 that big y'all up definitely, you know, but when you 0:57:56.600 --> 0:58:02.000 get to fifteen projects, you're at your whole company's bandwidth, right. 0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:10.280 But there's four thousand, you know, people who deserve a look, right. 0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:14.320 But it's like, you know, you got one executive that's 0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:17.840 working ten projects that they believe in that one is 0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:20.640 going to go right, right, So you look at a 0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:23.200 company after four years and it's like, you know, so 0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:27.600 for us with our company with like bel Air, okay, right, 0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:33.360 so we've got black staff and you know, black and 0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:36.160 brown writing and staff and all of that, but it 0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:41.959 takes everything our TV division has to keep that show 0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:46.160 up and relevant and going. And then you just don't 0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:52.000 have the bandwidth to have a second one going to 0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:54.720 it's like all hands on deck to make show, to 0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:57.120 make sure the show wins, because when you get the shot, 0:58:57.200 --> 0:59:01.040 you have to win too, right, you know. So you 0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:03.360 know we have that, we set it up, and then 0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:06.440 you know, things happen, so you start building it out right, 0:59:06.480 --> 0:59:09.160 So you'll start building out your divisions and you get going, 0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:12.960 and then there's a strike. Oh yeah, the writer's strike. 0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:16.560 Now there's a writers strike and you have to like, 0:59:16.760 --> 0:59:19.520 you can't survive because you can't work and you can't 0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:22.960 hold one hundred percent staff, so you got to scale 0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:26.280 down to twenty percent staff until the strike is over. 0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:28.280 Now you lose all of these great people, you lose 0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:31.240 all of these great projects, and now you're starting up 0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:35.920 all over again. Right, So there are business considerations like 0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:42.720 Tyler Perry has like the most like stable foundation of 0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:46.080 being able to make things in churn them out. But 0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:51.320 you know it's bandwidth. Also Tyler's writing and directing, you 0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:54.240 know all of this stuff too, right, So it's really 0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:58.680 it's it is. The idea is simple to say, but 0:59:58.800 --> 1:00:03.040 when you look at reality, the reality of it is, 1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:07.040 if you have a staff of forty, you could get 1:00:07.120 --> 1:00:12.000 to bandwidth on a staff of forty people with two projects. 1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:15.720 You could be like, you get two big things going, 1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:18.840 and what it takes to keep it going is like 1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:21.360 it's really hard. Then what happens is then you have 1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:24.440 to let other people be in charge. Right, So when 1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:30.280 I'm looking over a project, like, I'm I'm the taste, right, 1:00:30.400 --> 1:00:33.080 so you know, I have other people that are really 1:00:33.560 --> 1:00:37.320 good taste. But as you get broader, you lose the 1:00:37.560 --> 1:00:41.240 taste and then you start making things that aren't good 1:00:41.280 --> 1:00:44.640 and that's not helpful either, you know. So it is, 1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:48.320 it is a It is a complex it's a complex problem, 1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:51.440 and more complex in today's media landscape where everything is 1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:53.920 every day is turning over. So on top of it, 1:00:54.000 --> 1:00:56.560 twenty four to seven, yeah, ten years ago, you could 1:00:56.600 --> 1:01:00.120 take a big bet and be pretty sure you're going 1:01:00.200 --> 1:01:03.920 to make it limited box office yeah yeah right, you know, 1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:06.720 so it is that, you know, it is. It is difficult, 1:01:06.800 --> 1:01:11.440 and people now are thinking of it as disposable, right, 1:01:11.600 --> 1:01:16.400 so movies, yeah, disposable, well, entertainment and general the content 1:01:16.520 --> 1:01:20.040 is disposable, freed everybody. So you can't even like, you know, 1:01:20.160 --> 1:01:23.880 make a two million dollar bet on something because people 1:01:23.960 --> 1:01:29.040 might decide that that's not exactly. Yeah, it's it is 1:01:29.120 --> 1:01:31.760 a it is a difficult issue, and I'm in a 1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:34.960 lot of those rooms. It is not because people are 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:37.040 not trying to make it. Yeah, it is not because 1:01:37.040 --> 1:01:38.760 people yet. 1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:41.440 Yeah, so they always say that being the first person, 1:01:42.280 --> 1:01:45.000 it's beautiful, but you know, you get you get looked, 1:01:45.240 --> 1:01:45.960 get frowned upon. 1:01:46.120 --> 1:01:48.160 Right, I'm using that lightly. Again. 1:01:49.040 --> 1:01:51.280 You were the first person to win a Grammy, first rapper, 1:01:51.400 --> 1:01:52.680 first rapper to ever win a Grammy. 1:01:53.520 --> 1:01:57.160 Right, we boycott it and you boycott it and one 1:01:57.240 --> 1:02:08.360 and one still except that's right, we didn't accept one. 1:02:18.840 --> 1:02:22.080 But were you guys solely boycotting on your own or 1:02:22.320 --> 1:02:23.520 it felt like it was a hip hop? 1:02:23.560 --> 1:02:26.520 Boy? It was a hip hop So so what happened 1:02:26.600 --> 1:02:30.480 the So it was the first year ever that pop 1:02:30.560 --> 1:02:35.840 got hip hop got acknowledged by the Grammys. So they 1:02:35.880 --> 1:02:39.080 acknowledged that they had the category, but they said they 1:02:39.120 --> 1:02:43.000 weren't going to televise the the hip hop category. They 1:02:43.000 --> 1:02:45.920 weren't going to televise it. So we were like, well, wait, 1:02:46.000 --> 1:02:49.360 we sold more records than everybody, Like, why is that? 1:02:49.440 --> 1:02:54.600 Why is our stuff not being televised? So Russell Simmons 1:02:55.240 --> 1:03:01.200 and le Or Cohen and m t V organized a boycott. Okay, 1:03:01.240 --> 1:03:03.200 and you're not on depth Jam, I'm not on deaf Jam. 1:03:04.200 --> 1:03:07.280 Rush's management makes sense, Okay, I just wanted to make 1:03:07.320 --> 1:03:11.520 a sense. Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm so they organized a boycott. 1:03:11.640 --> 1:03:18.640 They said nobody where Nobody's going. So MTV has a 1:03:18.920 --> 1:03:23.720 counter show that's going to boycott the Grammys. So we go, 1:03:24.600 --> 1:03:29.480 and you know, two days before the Grammys, we find 1:03:29.560 --> 1:03:34.760 out that Como D has agreed to appear Grammys. Damn 1:03:35.640 --> 1:03:39.000 with the big glasses and a yeah yeah cool yeah 1:03:39.120 --> 1:03:42.800 so D but he uh and it's so crazy because 1:03:42.840 --> 1:03:45.480 it seems it seems so little and silly now, but 1:03:45.640 --> 1:03:48.880 it was like the biggest thing is everyone looked at 1:03:49.600 --> 1:03:52.800 the betrayer. Yeah liked and we Me and Mo were 1:03:52.880 --> 1:03:55.520 like great friends. We still are, but it was like 1:03:55.800 --> 1:03:59.440 it was like huge that he crossed the line and 1:03:59.520 --> 1:04:04.640 he went and did an intro to the Grammys. Wo right, 1:04:04.760 --> 1:04:11.160 so yeah he did the whole legend. It was just 1:04:11.360 --> 1:04:13.720 it was just it's so funny because it was like 1:04:14.160 --> 1:04:17.640 the biggest like our lives depended on this and it 1:04:17.840 --> 1:04:22.120 was like the worst ship that ever happened. Uh, Me 1:04:22.240 --> 1:04:26.440 and Mo laugh about this now. But so we're there 1:04:26.440 --> 1:04:28.840 and it's US and Salt and Pepper and LL and 1:04:28.920 --> 1:04:32.360 stets of Sonic and so it's like fifty rappers and 1:04:32.480 --> 1:04:36.120 we're standing and we're watching and you know, they're doing 1:04:36.160 --> 1:04:40.360 the show. And then they they do the earlier tonight 1:04:40.840 --> 1:04:45.840 awards were given in the rap category and we're standing 1:04:45.920 --> 1:04:47.760 with all the rappers and me and Jeffers standing were 1:04:47.760 --> 1:04:51.920 looking at the TV and we were nominated against It 1:04:52.080 --> 1:04:58.440 was o pp It was uh was it still a 1:04:58.520 --> 1:05:00.960 rapping R and B just right. It was the first 1:05:01.000 --> 1:05:03.240 time that it was just wrapped. So it was like US, L, 1:05:03.800 --> 1:05:09.600 Salt and Peppa h. This was dominated Super Sonic. Oh 1:05:09.640 --> 1:05:12.520 that's right, yeah, yeah, JJ past on two three four, 1:05:13.480 --> 1:05:18.040 I'm missing a missing a fifth my name running m 1:05:18.080 --> 1:05:20.040 C was in there all right, So it was you know, 1:05:20.160 --> 1:05:24.000 so everybody was nominated. So we're standing there and we're 1:05:24.000 --> 1:05:27.360 watching the TV and they say and earlier this afternoon, 1:05:27.520 --> 1:05:30.120 DJ j Z, Jeff and Fresh Prince were awarded Best 1:05:30.200 --> 1:05:32.760 Wrap and we're standing there with everybody, and I was 1:05:32.840 --> 1:05:38.400 like a boycott. You didn't know you were gonna win. 1:05:39.840 --> 1:05:47.240 I didn't know were you what? I was like, man, 1:05:47.480 --> 1:05:50.920 me and went in the other room and it was like, yo, 1:05:51.760 --> 1:05:54.320 the first grandy ever give it to a wrapper, And 1:05:54.400 --> 1:05:57.400 it was like we never, we never really you know, 1:05:57.680 --> 1:06:01.760 had the chance to fully celebrate. But it was really 1:06:02.040 --> 1:06:05.360 giant hearing that we wanted the first ever. 1:06:07.160 --> 1:06:14.880 Yeah, now, hip hop could be you know, critical until 1:06:14.920 --> 1:06:17.760 they actually make that position right. Like it's like it's 1:06:17.800 --> 1:06:20.880 like a person seeing the first person doing the alley, like, well, 1:06:21.000 --> 1:06:23.280 that shit looks crazy, and then you learn how to do. 1:06:25.200 --> 1:06:29.080 This is legit, you know what I'm saying. So after 1:06:29.400 --> 1:06:33.600 winning the Grammys, when did it become cool to actually 1:06:33.680 --> 1:06:34.320 win Grammy? 1:06:34.760 --> 1:06:38.280 Because I'm sure you got chasts, yeah for sure now 1:06:38.400 --> 1:06:40.600 and it was like, you know, well they only won 1:06:40.640 --> 1:06:43.680 because white people like their music. But that's cool. They 1:06:43.720 --> 1:06:46.640 won because it's they want one, because it's soft, you know, 1:06:47.360 --> 1:06:51.520 it was their their music was palatable for other audiences. 1:06:52.040 --> 1:06:53.760 That critic is still going on to this day. When 1:06:53.800 --> 1:06:58.680 itgory for sure, you know, you know, I think I 1:06:58.760 --> 1:06:59.920 think it was probably like. 1:07:01.800 --> 1:07:06.200 Like three three Grammys later where it was like cool, 1:07:06.320 --> 1:07:09.280 cool to to win the Grammy. It was like that 1:07:09.480 --> 1:07:12.000 that next year still wasn't cool, but they televised it, 1:07:12.720 --> 1:07:15.400 so it was like good that they televised that they 1:07:15.440 --> 1:07:21.080 were respecting the genre. But it was yeah, definitely, like 1:07:21.280 --> 1:07:25.600 three years later that it was like a real prestige 1:07:25.720 --> 1:07:27.280 thing to to win a Grammy. 1:07:27.640 --> 1:07:29.920 Yeah, because now everybody's bragging about it, but back then 1:07:30.000 --> 1:07:31.160 they were like pistol the Grammy. 1:07:31.240 --> 1:07:34.960 Yeah, yeah, I hope actually did it pistle you well, 1:07:35.080 --> 1:07:39.760 Kanye one of them did that. They said, No, it's 1:07:39.800 --> 1:07:45.320 a it's a it's an honor. Anytime anybody will say 1:07:45.800 --> 1:07:48.960 we appreciate what you do, I think there's a lot 1:07:49.000 --> 1:07:52.360 of silliness that goes into that. It's not about the award, 1:07:52.400 --> 1:07:54.600 it's just it's it's a work you know that you 1:07:54.800 --> 1:07:59.600 put into Somebody is saying, hey, I appreciate what you do, 1:08:00.320 --> 1:08:03.920 and you know what your how your gifts are being 1:08:05.560 --> 1:08:08.560 received by humanity. Is that that is That's a real thing. 1:08:08.880 --> 1:08:11.720 Is there any aspirations to be to have an egot 1:08:11.840 --> 1:08:16.960 to all of them? Uh? Because you know, I'm I'm pasted, 1:08:18.240 --> 1:08:25.000 I'm past awards in in my mindset. You know, there's 1:08:25.040 --> 1:08:29.920 a there's a thing I think that everybody. Uh, I 1:08:30.120 --> 1:08:34.240 wish that everybody could have everything they dream to realize 1:08:34.280 --> 1:08:39.720 that that's not it. You know I've said before, like 1:08:39.880 --> 1:08:43.880 there's a there are people talk about rock bottom that 1:08:44.080 --> 1:08:47.439 when you hit rock bottom is when you'll make a 1:08:47.560 --> 1:08:53.800 change drugs like drugs. People say dr rock bottom in life. Yeah, 1:08:54.000 --> 1:08:56.200 but yeah, it is that people say it in in 1:08:56.720 --> 1:08:59.519 you know, in a talking about rock bottom. But there's 1:08:59.560 --> 1:09:06.120 a core responding place that I call cliff top. Right, 1:09:06.400 --> 1:09:08.960 you could be too high, where you get so high 1:09:10.040 --> 1:09:16.320 that you realize literally none of the stuff can make 1:09:16.400 --> 1:09:20.240 you happy. Right after you you get you can get 1:09:20.320 --> 1:09:22.720 to the end of the material world. You get to 1:09:22.760 --> 1:09:25.920 the end of money, you get to the end of sex. 1:09:26.400 --> 1:09:29.040 You know, you get to the end of fame. You 1:09:29.200 --> 1:09:32.320 get you you you have so much, and you get 1:09:32.439 --> 1:09:35.000 and then you you like go off of a cliff 1:09:35.720 --> 1:09:38.400 into the same kind of abyss that you'd be scared 1:09:38.400 --> 1:09:42.680 of slipping into at rock bottom, right where life loses 1:09:43.439 --> 1:09:50.600 all of its ability to sustain and please you. And 1:09:50.800 --> 1:09:53.200 then the only thing that's left the same thing at 1:09:53.280 --> 1:09:55.639 rock bottom. The only thing that's left at cliff top 1:09:56.000 --> 1:09:59.160 is you have to You have to find what you 1:09:59.400 --> 1:10:03.320 actually looking looking for, And what you're actually looking for 1:10:04.240 --> 1:10:10.200 is you. You're looking for you. You're running around right 1:10:10.560 --> 1:10:12.800 when you when you like a woman and you like 1:10:12.960 --> 1:10:16.759 being with a woman is because you like how you feel. 1:10:17.560 --> 1:10:22.040 You like what's happening inside of you. When you have money, 1:10:22.680 --> 1:10:24.880 it's like, yeah, it's cool to buy things, but it's 1:10:24.920 --> 1:10:29.920 not the money. You like how you feel inside. It's 1:10:30.080 --> 1:10:34.680 unleashing a feeling inside and at rock bottom and at 1:10:34.760 --> 1:10:36.560 cliff top, what you have to learn how to do 1:10:37.200 --> 1:10:41.800 is generate that feeling without anything external you want to 1:10:41.880 --> 1:10:45.640 You have to learn how to like like you so 1:10:45.880 --> 1:10:50.800 much that you like being alive so much that you 1:10:51.080 --> 1:10:56.640 you bring positive energy that's not generated by stuff. Right 1:10:56.640 --> 1:10:59.840 because stuff is coming and going, like people are coming 1:10:59.880 --> 1:11:02.720 in going. Everything you have and everybody you love is 1:11:02.800 --> 1:11:06.080 going to rise and fall in your life. The place 1:11:06.200 --> 1:11:09.080 that we have to find is a spiritual place where 1:11:09.680 --> 1:11:14.679 we are good with us. We trust us. I trust myself, 1:11:15.439 --> 1:11:19.160 I trust God, and I trust life that whatever happens, 1:11:19.200 --> 1:11:21.320 I'm going to make happy out of it. I don't 1:11:21.360 --> 1:11:22.800 need specific things to happen. 1:11:26.680 --> 1:11:28.920 And I think also the important thing is we forget 1:11:29.000 --> 1:11:33.519 that that journey is really the middle part is really 1:11:33.600 --> 1:11:34.320 the best part of me. 1:11:34.479 --> 1:11:37.960 Yes, exactly. It's like being able to be right here, 1:11:38.720 --> 1:11:43.680 right now with whatever arises and not need a specific 1:11:43.800 --> 1:11:46.559 thing to happen, right, And it's like, you know, part 1:11:46.640 --> 1:11:49.640 of the beauty of these these moments for me and 1:11:49.680 --> 1:11:51.519 these interactions for me, it's like I don't need a 1:11:51.560 --> 1:11:55.000 specific thing to happen with us. Now, I'm open and 1:11:55.080 --> 1:11:59.240 I'm excited, Like what's going to evolve from this moment. 1:11:59.320 --> 1:12:01.680 And as soon as I have a specific thing that 1:12:01.800 --> 1:12:04.840 I want to happen that I want from you, now 1:12:05.080 --> 1:12:09.880 it it it throws off the energy of our experience, 1:12:09.960 --> 1:12:14.559 you know. So I'm just learning to accept life as 1:12:14.640 --> 1:12:16.200 it comes. Just relax. 1:12:16.760 --> 1:12:16.960 You know. 1:12:17.200 --> 1:12:20.639 Some ship's gonna come that you don't like, some ship's 1:12:20.680 --> 1:12:24.040 gonna come that you do like. And it's like, I'm 1:12:24.160 --> 1:12:30.519 trying to just cultivate a mind that is able to 1:12:31.760 --> 1:12:38.040 accept and add love to any circumstance that arises. Letting go. 1:12:43.800 --> 1:12:49.240 This is what I got to do that let me 1:12:49.320 --> 1:12:57.120 join you properly. Cheers, So look at me. So I 1:12:57.200 --> 1:12:58.720 want to speak about you quick time was like we 1:12:58.800 --> 1:13:03.840 just didn't go back sometime. I want to say something 1:13:03.880 --> 1:13:11.000 about Philadelpia. Don't care nothing about the rules, but. 1:13:16.400 --> 1:13:22.479 Philly has made such a dramatic mark in hip hop, 1:13:23.000 --> 1:13:26.320 he says after you, like prior to you, we had 1:13:26.360 --> 1:13:31.599 Schoolly Deal first, then we had you, and like you said, 1:13:31.680 --> 1:13:32.679 like so many people. 1:13:32.560 --> 1:13:34.400 There's a lot of firsts from Philly and hip hop 1:13:34.640 --> 1:13:36.320 is going way better. You know what I'm saying is 1:13:36.360 --> 1:13:39.120 from him. But so many people didn't understand because you 1:13:39.200 --> 1:13:42.760 were making clean rap, right for lack of a better term, right, 1:13:42.800 --> 1:13:43.760 you were making clean rap. 1:13:43.840 --> 1:13:46.080 A lot of people didn't know what rest Philadelphia was. 1:13:46.120 --> 1:13:47.800 A lot of people didn't know what Philadelphia was. A 1:13:47.840 --> 1:13:49.720 lot of people didn't know that Philadelphia. You're gonna get 1:13:49.800 --> 1:13:50.400 killed out there. 1:13:50.800 --> 1:13:55.200 You're done, and you're gonna shot a shot and and 1:13:55.920 --> 1:13:58.080 they might stay there to like It's like so a 1:13:58.120 --> 1:14:00.160 lot of people didn't know that because New York was 1:14:00.200 --> 1:14:03.920 so much of but now Philly has kind of like 1:14:04.479 --> 1:14:08.479 took his own mark, like like I mean, through hip hop, 1:14:08.880 --> 1:14:14.120 through through so many different things, through comedy, cav How 1:14:14.200 --> 1:14:16.640 did how did you did you see that Philly would be. 1:14:16.640 --> 1:14:18.920 Prominent like that because it's damn near next to New 1:14:19.040 --> 1:14:19.679 York at this point. 1:14:19.800 --> 1:14:22.160 You know what's interesting, Like Philly was all out news 1:14:22.240 --> 1:14:27.080 right so to to me, the the hip hop culture 1:14:27.360 --> 1:14:32.720 and the creative culture in Philly and even before that, 1:14:32.840 --> 1:14:34.960 when I you know, when I was growing up, Joe 1:14:35.040 --> 1:14:42.880 Fraser was Philly. Yeah history, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, 1:14:43.160 --> 1:14:46.519 so you know there there has been a long history. 1:14:47.200 --> 1:14:50.400 Uh you know, Wilt Chamberlain went to the high school. 1:14:53.200 --> 1:14:56.240 I mean that he was going with He's famous brothers 1:15:01.200 --> 1:15:05.720 literally a couple of times, you know. But you know, 1:15:05.840 --> 1:15:08.760 there's a rich history. There's a rich, rich history of 1:15:09.439 --> 1:15:13.560 talent and successful people. Julius Irving, you know when I 1:15:13.640 --> 1:15:15.840 was growing up, so you know, for me, it was 1:15:16.040 --> 1:15:21.960 always I knew that I was going to do my 1:15:22.160 --> 1:15:24.000 best to be a part of a rich history. I 1:15:24.000 --> 1:15:26.640 didn't feel like I was starting anything right, So I 1:15:26.680 --> 1:15:29.560 felt like I was being you know, gambling ugh, and 1:15:30.000 --> 1:15:32.400 you know, I felt like I was being a part 1:15:32.439 --> 1:15:35.759 of a history, contributing, contributing to something that was already 1:15:36.320 --> 1:15:37.559 you know, alive and well. 1:15:38.640 --> 1:15:43.639 Listening to this album, I felt like you called everyone 1:15:44.840 --> 1:15:49.439 and everyone said yes, but I'm wondering if I'm wrong. 1:15:50.280 --> 1:15:52.400 Was there anybody that you called for this album and 1:15:52.479 --> 1:15:56.439 they were like, I'm busy or I'm in Costa Rica? 1:15:56.680 --> 1:16:02.680 No, you know, yeah, no, there there were there were 1:16:02.720 --> 1:16:09.040 a couple of people who who weren't sure about working 1:16:09.120 --> 1:16:11.840 with me. There were yeah, there were, There were definitely 1:16:12.520 --> 1:16:14.840 definitely a couple of people. It was the hot water, 1:16:15.080 --> 1:16:19.320 Yeah yeah yeah. They were like, yeah, we'll wait for 1:16:19.400 --> 1:16:25.080 the second round. Will were round, Yeah, the boy the boiler, 1:16:26.000 --> 1:16:29.960 Yeah yeah, we'll see. But it was actually that that 1:16:30.120 --> 1:16:34.000 was new for me too, that I got that was 1:16:34.200 --> 1:16:36.200 real humbling. I'm used. 1:16:36.240 --> 1:16:38.560 I was used to when when Big Willie call it 1:16:38.680 --> 1:16:52.160 was you know, I was like, I was saying, but 1:16:52.439 --> 1:16:53.720 they honest about it. 1:16:53.920 --> 1:16:56.639 No, No, people weren't being honest. You know, they weren't 1:16:56.680 --> 1:16:58.640 being honest. But I knew. I knew that's what it was. 1:16:59.200 --> 1:17:01.920 I knew that's what it was. Well, please please do 1:17:02.040 --> 1:17:05.400 not forget. But the other day new he called me. Now, 1:17:05.439 --> 1:17:07.960 he called me and was like, yo, can you can 1:17:08.000 --> 1:17:10.559 you meet me at Club eleven? And I was like, yeah, 1:17:10.640 --> 1:17:13.519 of course, and you said it. He knew I was 1:17:13.800 --> 1:17:19.760 lying because I'm too old there want to, but I 1:17:19.800 --> 1:17:22.160 don't want to tell him no. So I was like 1:17:22.360 --> 1:17:26.160 I was like yeah, okay. And then and then Nellie 1:17:26.640 --> 1:17:30.559 he knew it. He heard. He freezed. He's like, damn, 1:17:31.160 --> 1:17:33.960 you could just say. I was like, I'm older. Now 1:17:37.360 --> 1:17:45.840 you want him shoutut my grass yeah, so I don't 1:17:45.880 --> 1:17:46.240 go out. 1:17:46.439 --> 1:17:51.679 So I don't don't go out. No, but I feel different. 1:17:51.800 --> 1:17:56.439 Now are you different? I'm talking you're different because how 1:17:56.479 --> 1:17:59.640 people treated for the incident that happened. No, you know, 1:18:00.200 --> 1:18:02.000 can you see how these people fuckers are? 1:18:02.200 --> 1:18:05.599 No? No, I I don't have so. First of all, 1:18:05.720 --> 1:18:11.760 I didn't look at anything that anybody said, right, So, 1:18:12.400 --> 1:18:15.960 like I literally shut it down. I was like, I 1:18:16.000 --> 1:18:20.880 don't want to know nothing that nobody saidication as all. Yeah, 1:18:22.720 --> 1:18:25.320 somebody had five months where I didn't even look at 1:18:25.920 --> 1:18:29.240 you know, Instagram, and I was, yeah, we all need 1:18:29.320 --> 1:18:34.040 to do that. Yeah, you know. So it's like, you know, 1:18:34.160 --> 1:18:38.040 I know there there's you know, like people that went hard, right, 1:18:38.160 --> 1:18:42.600 but I literally don't know. I don't know. Me and 1:18:42.720 --> 1:18:46.479 Charlie was out the other night, me and Charlie, yeah, 1:18:46.600 --> 1:18:50.160 and somebody somebody walked in that had had gone hard, 1:18:51.000 --> 1:18:59.120 and I was like, hey, no, no, no, not that one. 1:19:00.640 --> 1:19:05.040 That one. I ain't gonna say nobody's name. Somebody's name. 1:19:05.960 --> 1:19:10.840 Figure it out. We're not speaking of him. We're not 1:19:10.880 --> 1:19:15.240 speaking of him, right, you know. But for me, it's 1:19:15.400 --> 1:19:19.679 like I just I knew it would poison in my heart, 1:19:20.280 --> 1:19:21.840 and I was like, I just don't want that, man, 1:19:21.840 --> 1:19:23.120 I just don't want to know what none of them 1:19:23.200 --> 1:19:26.759 niggas said. So when I see him, Hey, man, Charlie 1:19:26.760 --> 1:19:35.560 can just grab my hand. I love that. But that 1:19:35.720 --> 1:19:36.240 was all right. 1:19:36.920 --> 1:19:39.920 Now I'm gonna give you one of mine. I did 1:19:39.960 --> 1:19:43.720 an interview, our second interview with his brother. Our first 1:19:43.760 --> 1:19:47.799 interview was so beautiful. I mean, a second interview was beautiful. 1:19:47.840 --> 1:19:50.640 It had parts in there that, oh I already know. 1:19:50.760 --> 1:19:56.320 Oh yeah, and I remember we're dropping an interview. 1:19:57.160 --> 1:20:00.280 And sorry for anybody who's looking the but you know, 1:20:00.400 --> 1:20:02.360 puff Daddy called me and said, man, you sure you 1:20:02.400 --> 1:20:07.200 want to drop this? And I said, yeah, I'm an 1:20:07.320 --> 1:20:11.080 artistic I'm standing by my artistic artistic tree. 1:20:13.280 --> 1:20:22.560 I'm standing by my Japanese outpian street will boys. I 1:20:22.640 --> 1:20:23.120 regret that. 1:20:24.880 --> 1:20:27.479 He did not say I told you so. No, Hed 1:20:27.600 --> 1:20:30.479 never told me that. He never too, but he told 1:20:30.520 --> 1:20:36.559 me and we dropped this Kanye interview. The name I said, 1:20:36.560 --> 1:20:38.080 I wasn't going to say the name I'm saying. 1:20:38.160 --> 1:20:41.080 You just didn't say. But if you expressed by and 1:20:41.320 --> 1:20:47.559 f N are not necessarily will Smith that what I'm saying. 1:20:48.200 --> 1:20:53.560 She entered. It surprised me with the people that called me. 1:20:54.000 --> 1:20:57.400 The people that called me wasn't the essential people that 1:20:57.479 --> 1:21:00.040 I thought that were called like Shaq called. 1:20:59.840 --> 1:21:04.439 Me, Pharrell called me, and it was just for me. 1:21:04.680 --> 1:21:09.600 It was just like I made a mistake, and what 1:21:09.680 --> 1:21:11.559 I say, I made a mistake. I never said nothing, 1:21:13.400 --> 1:21:15.840 but I did not like that. 1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:19.800 So now I understand that that this is my responsibility 1:21:19.920 --> 1:21:23.240 if a person is on my platform, regardless of what. 1:21:23.600 --> 1:21:26.479 If will Will Smith gets on my platform and says, 1:21:28.920 --> 1:21:30.800 let's let's say Monster Energy, we got to get money 1:21:30.840 --> 1:21:31.080 with them. 1:21:31.120 --> 1:21:36.000 We get money with them. Don't talk about let's say 1:21:36.080 --> 1:21:41.839 black black black. No excuse me, brown brown little squares, 1:21:42.840 --> 1:21:45.840 there's a piece of ship. Yeah, brown little square is 1:21:45.920 --> 1:21:46.800 not only as mad as you. 1:21:47.280 --> 1:21:50.280 If they're mad at me, they thought that I edited it, 1:21:50.400 --> 1:21:53.600 They thought that that I went over it, and they 1:21:53.680 --> 1:21:55.639 thought that I deliberately said. 1:21:57.040 --> 1:21:58.960 When it's really just your views. 1:21:59.439 --> 1:22:02.519 So my question is saying that was one of my 1:22:03.600 --> 1:22:07.080 in front of the industry most downist moments, and the 1:22:07.200 --> 1:22:09.479 people who called me was people that I did not 1:22:10.479 --> 1:22:12.800 in one of your downiest moments. Was whoever one of 1:22:12.880 --> 1:22:14.840 these who was the person who called you? Who you 1:22:15.280 --> 1:22:17.880 you didn't think Floyd Mayweather. 1:22:19.000 --> 1:22:24.320 Floyd. I love Floyd. Yeah yeah, Floyd called me every 1:22:24.439 --> 1:22:35.600 day for a month after that. Oh yeah, you know 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:37.479 I love let me. I want to back up on 1:22:37.560 --> 1:22:39.040 this a little bit because that's what you touched on 1:22:39.080 --> 1:22:43.960 a good point, all right, So you know you you 1:22:44.439 --> 1:22:46.519 get this interview if you have it and you put 1:22:46.600 --> 1:22:55.800 it out. Here's the cheat code. Yeah, So people said 1:22:55.840 --> 1:23:00.360 to me, will you sure you wanted to do drink champs? Really? 1:23:00.720 --> 1:23:03.320 Do you want? You want to? Like you say, for real, 1:23:03.800 --> 1:23:08.000 for real? Like will are you sure you want to 1:23:08.040 --> 1:23:14.040 put yourself in that position? Right? But you know right? 1:23:14.200 --> 1:23:20.280 Yeah right? We don't even know, right, So it's like, well, 1:23:20.360 --> 1:23:23.519 what are you gonna You're gonna take drinks? Right? And 1:23:23.640 --> 1:23:28.240 then who knows what the fuck you might say? Right right? 1:23:28.560 --> 1:23:30.599 And they were like, you know, Norris good at getting 1:23:30.600 --> 1:23:38.439 you to say some ship you might not right right? 1:23:38.640 --> 1:23:41.559 So so I said, oh, because I love y'all right. 1:23:41.720 --> 1:23:43.800 So I sat on it for a minute. 1:23:46.320 --> 1:23:49.720 My son, that's my first time I we mentioned the 1:23:49.800 --> 1:23:54.519 bright No no, no, that's a Nickelodeon nicolode continue right. 1:23:54.479 --> 1:23:57.680 So so but I really had to sit with that, right. 1:23:58.360 --> 1:24:05.720 So the cheat code is what's your intention? Right? So 1:24:06.120 --> 1:24:10.240 when you're in those situations, it's like, what is your intention? 1:24:10.720 --> 1:24:14.679 What was your intention in that moment? In that moment, 1:24:15.040 --> 1:24:21.320 what's your intention putting out the interview? Right? So for me, 1:24:22.400 --> 1:24:27.880 when you're ten toes down in your intention? Right. So 1:24:28.600 --> 1:24:35.360 my intention of being here with y'all is to support 1:24:36.439 --> 1:24:38.120 any good you're trying to put in the world. 1:24:39.720 --> 1:24:42.160 We want to show you our because our attention is 1:24:42.160 --> 1:24:44.360 about giving people their flowers, the smell them. 1:24:44.479 --> 1:24:52.880 They and we'll let me just tell you something. 1:24:53.240 --> 1:24:57.200 Every wrapper in this world that ever tried to act, 1:24:57.920 --> 1:25:01.920 ever wanted to go into another, we all owe you, 1:25:02.880 --> 1:25:05.160 we all owe you. We all have to take our 1:25:05.240 --> 1:25:07.640 hats off to you. You gotta rub our Beijing, and 1:25:08.120 --> 1:25:13.800 we gotta do whatever. I'm obviously not doing it, we know. 1:25:15.720 --> 1:25:19.360 But every rapp up who has ventured out you know, 1:25:20.040 --> 1:25:22.439 you know, I mean even did you know, uh what 1:25:22.600 --> 1:25:23.080 do we call it? 1:25:23.200 --> 1:25:23.880 Uh? Uh? 1:25:24.439 --> 1:25:27.800 You know other business mentions because prior to you, all 1:25:28.000 --> 1:25:31.840 rappers did was rap. And then when they didn't have 1:25:32.000 --> 1:25:34.639 them pensions in them W nine's in the one case, 1:25:35.040 --> 1:25:36.160 then they started to complain. 1:25:36.439 --> 1:25:38.479 But you gave the blueprint. You said, you know what 1:25:38.600 --> 1:25:40.719 I could rap, I could dominate rappers that can. 1:25:40.720 --> 1:25:42.840 Dominate another fail, and then I can come back and 1:25:42.880 --> 1:25:45.080 I can dominate another fail, and I gonna keep dominating 1:25:45.080 --> 1:25:45.599 another field. 1:25:45.760 --> 1:25:46.360 I keep going. 1:25:46.439 --> 1:25:48.040 I can get so bored. I could do ship that 1:25:48.120 --> 1:25:50.880 y'all don't even like it. And guess what, and then 1:25:51.000 --> 1:25:52.320 you had to TikTok phenomenon. 1:25:52.400 --> 1:25:53.840 I'll be following you on. I don't know what the 1:25:53.840 --> 1:25:56.400 fuck you be doing. I'm like, I'm like, fucking will 1:25:56.439 --> 1:25:57.920 swip through it, Like. 1:25:58.000 --> 1:26:01.080 It's just so we want you to know, like how 1:26:01.160 --> 1:26:05.920 important how much are you tip that other world? 1:26:06.520 --> 1:26:10.760 And right now we probably don't understand because the other 1:26:10.840 --> 1:26:13.920 world has just been chipped. Yeah, for sure, that's pioneering. 1:26:14.000 --> 1:26:16.679 That means that's what pioneer. That's why I said earlier. 1:26:16.720 --> 1:26:18.400 I was like, yo, yo, you know you was the 1:26:18.400 --> 1:26:21.200 first person to running grabby. I'm sure I was the 1:26:21.240 --> 1:26:22.439 first person to do reggae dong. 1:26:22.880 --> 1:26:25.960 People laughed at me. I almost had to wear a 1:26:26.040 --> 1:26:28.680 pampa because I feel like everyone's shipping on me. But 1:26:28.800 --> 1:26:29.120 guess what. 1:26:29.320 --> 1:26:31.800 You can't turn the radio without saying, but you've been 1:26:31.800 --> 1:26:33.560 trying to be spanning too, I mean, why be watching you? 1:26:33.760 --> 1:26:36.800 You're not calling you poppy letting you know, like you 1:26:36.960 --> 1:26:46.919 be having spain this girl, I'll see the left deal community. 1:26:47.760 --> 1:26:50.120 We've been contemplating on how we kicking you out well 1:26:50.439 --> 1:26:54.280 like this nigga want to be called poppy drawing the 1:26:54.360 --> 1:26:57.559 line man, you have to brew? Are we are? Girl 1:26:57.680 --> 1:27:00.200 and brew? How do you let me tell you? I mean, 1:27:00.240 --> 1:27:06.040 it's nothing like it's it's nothing like uh, Friday night 1:27:06.640 --> 1:27:10.360 in Colombia. You know, I'm telling you, it's a lot 1:27:10.360 --> 1:27:19.760 of places. It's a lot of places. What are you doing? 1:27:23.520 --> 1:27:33.200 The hole? It's beautiful. I'm like I've always I've always 1:27:33.400 --> 1:27:38.120 loved you know, Latin music and and Latin food and 1:27:38.320 --> 1:27:41.439 like the the you know, the fire of Latin women 1:27:41.560 --> 1:27:42.560 and dance and all of that. 1:27:43.560 --> 1:27:45.920 All of our Latin music comes from Africa as well. Yes, 1:27:47.000 --> 1:28:03.000 trying this for bad Boy five. That will. Let me 1:28:03.120 --> 1:28:06.200 just tell you something that we were so excited I 1:28:06.360 --> 1:28:08.040 worked out about. 1:28:10.479 --> 1:28:15.240 You're doing you know what we're doing the Rocky Steps tomorrow. 1:28:15.320 --> 1:28:17.439 Yeah you heard. I could have I could have hit 1:28:17.520 --> 1:28:19.320 your team. Your team is so official. Yeah. 1:28:19.439 --> 1:28:21.760 I was like, you know, I couldn't bother them, Like 1:28:21.880 --> 1:28:24.120 everybody was a fit and I couldn't download the album. 1:28:24.439 --> 1:28:28.240 I asked him about seventeen times about the album, everything, everything. 1:28:28.280 --> 1:28:29.160 Yeah, it was so efficient. 1:28:29.200 --> 1:28:30.960 But we're doing the Rocky Steps tomorrow because that's my 1:28:31.120 --> 1:28:34.160 dream to run the Rocky Step. So now it's gonna 1:28:34.160 --> 1:28:38.040 be mostly Instagram meaning I'm I'm running very. 1:28:37.960 --> 1:28:40.479 Fast, Yes, got it, and I'm gonna go up to 1:28:40.520 --> 1:28:43.519 the hill. Yeah, I'm gonna be like yo yo yo, 1:28:43.920 --> 1:28:51.080 Yeah you do that. Yeah yeah yeah. Is that how 1:28:51.120 --> 1:28:54.519 you trained for Ali? Yeah? Oh no that yeah, no, no, no, 1:28:54.640 --> 1:29:02.599 that was a good yeah. You know, my mouth was open, 1:29:14.800 --> 1:29:16.960 but you with all these real trainers, right, No, it 1:29:17.040 --> 1:29:19.320 was real. Yeah, okay, because I wasn't. I wasn't the 1:29:20.000 --> 1:29:22.840 boxing classes in South Beach, yes, and you walked in. 1:29:22.880 --> 1:29:25.640 Actually I don't know if you know the trainer was 1:29:25.640 --> 1:29:27.519 still working at that at that gym. 1:29:29.200 --> 1:29:31.679 Act as Ali. Yeah, we did. We did a real 1:29:31.760 --> 1:29:36.559 fight camp. So it was it was you know, real fighters, 1:29:37.040 --> 1:29:42.000 Michael Bent, Uh, Charles Shooter, James Tony and you know 1:29:42.560 --> 1:29:46.200 it was they wanted me to train and to you know, 1:29:46.360 --> 1:29:49.280 have a sense of the experience of what it was 1:29:49.479 --> 1:29:51.920 like to train for a real fight. So we went 1:29:52.040 --> 1:29:55.160 real real and Michael Michael Bent was like, you know, 1:29:56.080 --> 1:29:59.760 mentoring me and James Tony was the one that he 1:30:00.800 --> 1:30:05.519 no actors, So James, Tony would hit me real, James, 1:30:05.560 --> 1:30:07.600 Tony would hit me for real. Yeah, And I was like, 1:30:08.960 --> 1:30:11.000 I'm gonna give you the act. He would screamed. He 1:30:11.040 --> 1:30:13.880 would scream, bite your mouthpiece. When he was throwing a punch, 1:30:14.520 --> 1:30:22.599 he would say, bite your mouth piece, you know, James, Yeah, James. 1:30:22.640 --> 1:30:24.960 I was like, James, seriously, come on, man, come on, 1:30:25.120 --> 1:30:27.160 I got it. I don't work with no actors. We 1:30:27.320 --> 1:30:36.360 fighters in here. You know if Jake pulled child you 1:30:36.439 --> 1:30:38.040 to a fight, would you take it? Man, I'm too 1:30:38.080 --> 1:30:40.680 old for that. Good that that joke is strong. He 1:30:40.880 --> 1:30:43.920 is he we you know, you know he made, he made. 1:30:44.040 --> 1:30:44.360 He's not. 1:30:45.880 --> 1:30:48.800 Working his way to being a professional fighter, right, but 1:30:49.439 --> 1:30:51.479 you know he was like he was a champion wrestler 1:30:51.840 --> 1:30:57.160 before he that. Yeah. Yeah, no, he's he's he's he's real. 1:30:57.560 --> 1:31:00.479 You know, maybe now on the professional level, yeah, but 1:31:00.760 --> 1:31:02.720 you know as a as a fight he can fight 1:31:02.800 --> 1:31:08.720 for real. Yeah. People an't like you can has an 1:31:08.720 --> 1:31:09.400 affinity for the. 1:31:11.640 --> 1:31:17.000 Be honest with you, not since my father's older friends, 1:31:18.280 --> 1:31:20.040 I've heard somebody use the word joker. 1:31:20.520 --> 1:31:24.679 Joker. Every time you use it, I crink. 1:31:26.160 --> 1:31:29.080 No, bring it, bring those old school joints back. 1:31:29.120 --> 1:31:30.880 If you don't know that East coast when the when 1:31:30.920 --> 1:31:34.439 the East coast say, man, that joka, that's up now. 1:31:35.600 --> 1:31:39.640 The person place and I'm looking at well and now 1:31:39.720 --> 1:31:41.639 you were using in your rhymes to it. I'm telling 1:31:41.640 --> 1:31:43.920 you use that that that's the only good I had. 1:31:44.520 --> 1:31:49.320 So joka joka is that just genera But let me 1:31:49.360 --> 1:31:52.519 just say, jokat a lot cooler ship. Yeah, we got 1:31:53.560 --> 1:31:56.439 we got so much schools. But step give me something, 1:31:56.479 --> 1:31:59.360 give me But joking, like we say, joker, this joker 1:31:59.520 --> 1:32:01.680 all the time, that joke, it must be out of 1:32:01.720 --> 1:32:06.519 his mind. But that y'all, y'all, y'all, yeah, ya, y'all, y'all, y'all, 1:32:06.640 --> 1:32:11.800 day that joint that really that jo yeah joke would 1:32:11.800 --> 1:32:14.240 just make me say, damn this grandfather to ship right 1:32:14.240 --> 1:32:20.599 here out here. It makes me makes me I don't 1:32:20.640 --> 1:32:23.400 want to accept except man, I use Beijing, I used 1:32:23.439 --> 1:32:25.479 we want y'all you used me one No, no, mine 1:32:25.560 --> 1:32:28.160 is just like this all the time. Man, Well come 1:32:28.200 --> 1:32:36.439 on a little bit. I know many my ship would 1:32:36.439 --> 1:32:40.600 probably look like that. Yeah, yeah, for sure, I'm on 1:32:40.720 --> 1:32:48.720 the verge. If you had one thing to do all 1:32:48.840 --> 1:32:51.519 over in this industry, and that's anything. What would you 1:32:51.560 --> 1:32:59.560 do one thing to do all over again? You know 1:32:59.720 --> 1:33:06.840 it's funny like once your once your past things right, 1:33:07.640 --> 1:33:10.160 there are very few. You know. There's a song on 1:33:10.200 --> 1:33:15.360 an album called Beautiful Scars, right, So what the the 1:33:15.560 --> 1:33:19.479 idea is you You don't like shit while you're going 1:33:19.560 --> 1:33:25.680 through it, right, but once you learn the lesson, you 1:33:25.880 --> 1:33:29.120 never want to give it back. Right. It's like you 1:33:29.280 --> 1:33:33.800 suffered it, you survived, you took a lesson from it. 1:33:34.640 --> 1:33:38.840 Now it's like the things that you have suffered are 1:33:38.960 --> 1:33:42.479 in your eyes when you talk to your son, right, 1:33:42.800 --> 1:33:45.840 if you ain't been there, you can't help him, right. 1:33:46.120 --> 1:33:50.680 So to me, it's like, you know, I wouldn't you 1:33:50.760 --> 1:33:53.000 know when I look back, there's like there's not things. 1:33:53.200 --> 1:33:56.080 I mean, of course there's things you know I think about, 1:33:56.120 --> 1:33:58.360 but I wouldn't. I would never from this side of it, 1:33:58.720 --> 1:34:00.599 I would never give them ours back. 1:34:00.920 --> 1:34:03.200 Because you're looking at it like whatever you've been through, 1:34:03.760 --> 1:34:06.559 why you're here now, makes. 1:34:06.439 --> 1:34:10.320 You who you are? Right, It's like you you're you 1:34:10.640 --> 1:34:16.640 can't be more valuable than your suffering. And that's a 1:34:16.760 --> 1:34:21.160 really that's a hard idea you learn in this world 1:34:21.960 --> 1:34:30.559 by getting smashed. That's that's how that's the sound shot. Yes, 1:34:32.560 --> 1:34:38.599 but like most stuff sounded like a shot. Can we really? 1:34:38.600 --> 1:34:40.920 I'm sorry because you're so deep, but I really want 1:34:41.000 --> 1:34:44.920 to open up. Will Smith therapy. No, no, I'll be 1:34:45.000 --> 1:34:49.320 a therapist too. Yes, you're gonna be the therapist. I 1:34:49.479 --> 1:34:51.640 can't be. No. I don't know. Man, you gotta get 1:34:51.680 --> 1:35:02.479 trained something. You might just throw the problem. That's like, 1:35:02.560 --> 1:35:07.800 oh yeah, somebody like struggling with. Somebody thought something that 1:35:07.800 --> 1:35:15.519 they struggling. You know you you got something, nobody. Yeah, 1:35:16.240 --> 1:35:18.240 come on, step up, cut, come on, come on, come on, 1:35:18.320 --> 1:35:22.720 take up. We've seen real struggle. We've seen it. My 1:35:22.800 --> 1:35:26.280 chicken nuggets weren't that good. Let's go cut dude, you 1:35:26.360 --> 1:35:29.439 gotta stave you step back like shark take Yeah. 1:35:29.520 --> 1:35:34.640 Yeah, you me your therapy already. Somebody I'm like up 1:35:34.640 --> 1:35:37.280 with a problem. He's like you back up, back up. 1:35:39.920 --> 1:35:41.640 It's like yo, and you got to make sure you 1:35:41.760 --> 1:35:42.439 you ready for this. 1:35:42.600 --> 1:35:48.639 Yeah, he's on the way here on the right head. 1:35:49.320 --> 1:35:52.080 I lost a friend that I spoke to him Sunday. Damn. 1:35:52.160 --> 1:35:52.920 Sorry to hear that. Man. 1:35:53.280 --> 1:35:59.000 The last three months I lost five people. Food as 1:35:59.040 --> 1:36:01.479 you get older was closing and you get to look 1:36:01.520 --> 1:36:05.240 around like, damn, friend, how do you deal with that 1:36:05.640 --> 1:36:07.000 older me? 1:36:07.080 --> 1:36:10.760 So you have more exprience. Absolutely, so he got deep. 1:36:10.840 --> 1:36:22.880 I was already a grand grand clothes like anoy, your. 1:36:25.840 --> 1:36:30.840 Celebrity ran open the grand clothing, go to the OUs 1:36:30.880 --> 1:36:31.519 of Joan. 1:36:31.880 --> 1:36:40.040 What we'll say. Yes. So it's funny because I talked 1:36:40.080 --> 1:36:44.920 to Quincy Jones about this, uh you know, he said 1:36:44.960 --> 1:36:47.800 that exact same thing, probably eighteen months ago. I was 1:36:47.840 --> 1:36:49.840 talking to him and he was like, man, I've been 1:36:49.880 --> 1:36:53.600 a funeral every week, you know, and you just you know, 1:36:53.680 --> 1:36:57.439 you just get to that point where that's what it is, 1:36:58.360 --> 1:37:01.679 you know. And he was like, I'm the last one, 1:37:02.120 --> 1:37:06.880 you know. And so part of the idea so death, 1:37:09.200 --> 1:37:15.360 everybody in here is going to die, and before that 1:37:16.120 --> 1:37:19.519 we're going to experience a series of our loved ones 1:37:20.240 --> 1:37:26.879 at the party. Right. So, reconciling death is the highest 1:37:27.560 --> 1:37:34.360 human difficulty as soon as you can be with So 1:37:34.520 --> 1:37:39.439 for example, my sister was with my father in the 1:37:39.600 --> 1:37:46.120 room in the moment that he died. My sister did 1:37:46.240 --> 1:37:51.960 the makeup on my grandmother in the in the casket, right. 1:37:52.560 --> 1:37:59.360 So but because of that, she's gangster, right, she can 1:37:59.600 --> 1:38:04.599 be with life and all that it has to offer. Right, 1:38:05.439 --> 1:38:10.240 So I would say to you, don't shy away from 1:38:10.320 --> 1:38:15.320 their families, go sit with them, like look with them, 1:38:15.520 --> 1:38:20.400 Like be with what that loss actually means inside of 1:38:20.479 --> 1:38:25.360 a human heart. Like be with it, and you you 1:38:25.479 --> 1:38:28.000 will break your heart in that. I used to do 1:38:28.760 --> 1:38:32.839 the Make a Wish Foundation and would be dying children 1:38:33.720 --> 1:38:37.639 who their last wishes they wanted to see me. It's crazy, 1:38:38.240 --> 1:38:43.280 right to like be to be with death is the 1:38:43.680 --> 1:38:49.320 final human reconcile when you can sit and look and 1:38:49.600 --> 1:38:51.240 you know, I was just I was actually I was 1:38:51.280 --> 1:38:54.479 talking to Gilly, right, and I had to I made 1:38:54.520 --> 1:38:57.080 a confession to to Gilly the other day. I was like, yo, 1:38:57.720 --> 1:39:01.120 when your son died. God bless. I've reached for my 1:39:01.360 --> 1:39:04.680 phone multiple times and I didn't have the courage to 1:39:04.760 --> 1:39:10.280 call you. Right. It's like death is the hardest there is, 1:39:11.200 --> 1:39:16.960 Like don't run stand it, Like be with the people 1:39:17.360 --> 1:39:20.680 that are hurting, Be with the people who are suffering. 1:39:21.000 --> 1:39:25.880 There's you can't fix it. Just be able to be 1:39:26.080 --> 1:39:30.400 with people in that level of pain, right, and it's 1:39:30.520 --> 1:39:33.320 all you can do. It's like we're not we're not 1:39:33.439 --> 1:39:35.720 in charge of that part. But what we can do 1:39:36.000 --> 1:39:38.640 is love each other through it. That's all we can 1:39:38.680 --> 1:39:39.760 do is be with each other. 1:39:46.680 --> 1:39:50.880 I'll be something because no, no, I say something because again, 1:39:51.080 --> 1:39:54.439 like I witness you downstairs. I see you get out 1:39:54.439 --> 1:39:56.320 of the car, and I've seen the security god, the 1:39:56.360 --> 1:39:58.720 same security god that said hi to me, she said 1:39:58.760 --> 1:40:00.639 hi to you, and you just you just stood there 1:40:00.640 --> 1:40:04.080 and you just open your arms and you just accept 1:40:04.960 --> 1:40:06.840 what life brings you. 1:40:07.479 --> 1:40:08.519 I'm also jealous of that. 1:40:08.720 --> 1:40:12.760 It's because, like I automatically, if someone says up to me, 1:40:12.840 --> 1:40:17.439 I'm like, I don't. I don't immediately put you broke 1:40:17.600 --> 1:40:17.960 your hug. 1:40:18.600 --> 1:40:18.960 Excuse me? 1:40:19.040 --> 1:40:22.240 You bring your arms out for a hug, And I 1:40:22.400 --> 1:40:25.280 was like, what the fuck? And I can't think like 1:40:25.360 --> 1:40:27.400 that sometimes, like especially if I'm in the far in place. 1:40:27.560 --> 1:40:29.200 I mean, obviously it's not a foreign place to you. 1:40:30.320 --> 1:40:32.200 But when I jump out and the person says to me, yo, 1:40:32.240 --> 1:40:35.240 what's up, I'm like, what's up. It's like even when 1:40:35.280 --> 1:40:37.160 I jog, like if a person's able up, you got 1:40:37.280 --> 1:40:40.200 to like actually get me out, And I'm like, what up? 1:40:40.280 --> 1:40:41.559 Yo? You know what I mean? 1:40:41.640 --> 1:40:45.080 But you or the accolades or the places you've been, 1:40:45.120 --> 1:40:46.479 as soon as you jump off the car like and 1:40:46.680 --> 1:40:49.240 I do this like for the past nine years. I 1:40:49.320 --> 1:40:52.240 analyze everybody as they get as a car, analyze who 1:40:52.280 --> 1:40:54.040 they talk to, are analyze if they speak to the 1:40:54.080 --> 1:40:57.080 regular individuals, they speak to the orf they want to 1:40:57.160 --> 1:40:59.000 want to come in and get this interview over and done. 1:40:59.160 --> 1:41:01.639 Because we're not a emotional people. We don't we don't 1:41:01.720 --> 1:41:04.320 care about interviewing people when they We care about interviewing 1:41:04.439 --> 1:41:08.760 legends and icons and making sure they iconic legendary Statugyes continues, 1:41:09.400 --> 1:41:10.840 continues and continues to grow. 1:41:11.160 --> 1:41:14.880 But something that was so genuine about you is when 1:41:14.920 --> 1:41:17.040 you jumped up the car you see me, I saw you. 1:41:17.240 --> 1:41:18.160 I was like, damn, this nigga. 1:41:18.240 --> 1:41:21.360 He looked like the wild wild West right now, it's crazy, 1:41:21.640 --> 1:41:23.280 it's crazy, Like this nigga is real. 1:41:23.520 --> 1:41:24.000 It's real. 1:41:24.439 --> 1:41:27.160 And then and then the security guard said, I will 1:41:27.479 --> 1:41:29.320 and she had just did the same exact thing to me, 1:41:29.800 --> 1:41:31.960 and we spoke and you know, I gave her a hug, 1:41:32.040 --> 1:41:34.680 but your hug was way more genuine in minds, right, 1:41:35.000 --> 1:41:38.800 He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, it was 1:41:38.880 --> 1:41:41.479 real because I was just like, all right, cool, this 1:41:41.520 --> 1:41:43.599 is this lady I gotta talk to to get upstairs 1:41:44.040 --> 1:41:45.160 and maybe I should. 1:41:45.400 --> 1:41:46.519 So I did, and I did it. 1:41:46.760 --> 1:41:50.000 But your hug was like, Okay, I ain't see you 1:41:50.040 --> 1:41:52.160 in a while. And I was like, I don't know 1:41:52.200 --> 1:41:54.160 if you said you see you in a while. Your 1:41:54.320 --> 1:41:56.439 hug said, yeah, you didn't see you in a while. 1:41:56.640 --> 1:42:00.400 And then I recollect to what you said to us, 1:42:00.720 --> 1:42:06.280 Welcome to Philly. Yeah, yeah, that's not normal, Ship. Yeah, 1:42:07.080 --> 1:42:07.960 you know, it's it's some. 1:42:09.720 --> 1:42:10.439 It's it is. 1:42:12.439 --> 1:42:14.040 It's new for me. 1:42:14.160 --> 1:42:18.360 I've always been I'm letting y'all know for twenty five 1:42:18.439 --> 1:42:20.240 years we need this is yea brother. 1:42:23.479 --> 1:42:26.519 I told brotherly Love this morning. I'm like, oh, this 1:42:26.600 --> 1:42:30.920 is waw Ship talking about fucking will Smith his brother 1:42:31.160 --> 1:42:39.160 loved twenty five years. Yeah, my bad man. But so 1:42:39.760 --> 1:42:43.560 so what I thought, you know is, you know I 1:42:43.680 --> 1:42:48.360 saw y'all you know, so you know, I greeted everybody, 1:42:48.880 --> 1:42:51.240 and I saw her off on the side of the 1:42:51.320 --> 1:42:53.920 security guard was like, oh, you know, because Honda, they 1:42:54.360 --> 1:42:56.240 they know each other, they're doing the things. She didn't 1:42:56.280 --> 1:43:01.760 want to, like impose. So I was like, no, no, no, 1:43:02.080 --> 1:43:05.040 you safe here, sister, come on in. So I was 1:43:05.200 --> 1:43:07.000 like I wanted her. I could tell it's the end 1:43:07.080 --> 1:43:10.960 of her work day, workshift, she's going home. So in 1:43:11.520 --> 1:43:16.160 my mind I saw her go like that to me 1:43:16.360 --> 1:43:19.800 is the highest she like she saw. So I wanted 1:43:19.840 --> 1:43:22.160 to fan the flames of that energy. 1:43:22.800 --> 1:43:26.560 You know how hard that is to understand human behavior. 1:43:26.680 --> 1:43:29.280 And within that fifteen seconds. Back in the days, we 1:43:29.320 --> 1:43:31.280 could sit there and you could be like, I know 1:43:31.360 --> 1:43:33.760 this guy, and somebody's gonna say, Yo, that's rainbows from 1:43:33.960 --> 1:43:36.880 South Bronx. He's such such so you can actually, but 1:43:37.040 --> 1:43:40.960 now we have fifteen seconds set to see if this 1:43:41.080 --> 1:43:43.960 person is worthy of our time or not. But you 1:43:44.120 --> 1:43:47.519 did it in fucking three well, because everybody's worthy of money, right, 1:43:47.560 --> 1:43:50.160 He wasn't judging it. Yeah, way like there's nobody who's 1:43:50.200 --> 1:43:52.439 not worthy of my time. That is some niggas ain't 1:43:52.439 --> 1:43:56.479 worried my time. You're a much better person than me. 1:43:56.840 --> 1:44:00.600 I ain't gonna lie. You know who you are. Some 1:44:00.800 --> 1:44:06.519 of you skip your call or purpose. I see you. 1:44:10.240 --> 1:44:12.920 This is me. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Let me take 1:44:12.920 --> 1:44:16.240 a shot. That's hilarious, man. 1:44:19.800 --> 1:44:22.680 But everybody's worth for your time. That's such a beautiful thing, man, 1:44:23.000 --> 1:44:26.560 I promise you. I'm going to try to live, but 1:44:26.640 --> 1:44:28.920 I'm not gonna live like I'm not gonna sit here. 1:44:28.800 --> 1:44:30.360 And lie to you, you know what I'm saying. But 1:44:30.439 --> 1:44:32.840 I'm I'm going I'm going to try my best to 1:44:33.160 --> 1:44:36.080 really feel like everyone is my time because there's certain 1:44:36.080 --> 1:44:43.320 people that like that call me, ask me, are you 1:44:43.400 --> 1:44:47.479 having another monster energy event? That's who you don't follow 1:44:47.520 --> 1:44:50.720 me on Instagram? Like why are you asking me this 1:44:50.840 --> 1:44:51.320 crazy thing? 1:44:51.479 --> 1:44:55.960 But you you think that everybody not everyone. Most people 1:44:56.120 --> 1:44:57.639 like when you go to target, you speak to people 1:44:58.160 --> 1:44:59.000 you're not going to target. 1:44:59.080 --> 1:45:04.160 So so first of all, if you don't know who 1:45:04.240 --> 1:45:07.479 the person is, you can't really how would you know 1:45:07.600 --> 1:45:11.160 they're not worth your time? You can't judge that, Yeah, 1:45:11.360 --> 1:45:14.000 you don't know. And then if you're gonna mess around, 1:45:14.520 --> 1:45:16.719 benefit to look at somebody based on how they dressed 1:45:16.800 --> 1:45:21.760 or something like that, you know, and you know, so 1:45:24.320 --> 1:45:27.519 part of so, part of the revelation that I've had 1:45:27.560 --> 1:45:35.720 in these past couple of years is everything is God right, 1:45:35.800 --> 1:45:40.880 So everything is one thing right. So the idea of 1:45:41.000 --> 1:45:45.040 something being higher and lower, something being good and bad, 1:45:45.320 --> 1:45:49.280 that's a that's a false perception of reality, right, that's 1:45:49.320 --> 1:45:53.080 not that's not a real because you can't you can't 1:45:53.320 --> 1:45:56.439 know what something's going to lead to so even something 1:45:56.520 --> 1:45:59.880 you don't want, even something you don't like, just because 1:45:59.880 --> 1:46:04.120 you don't like it doesn't make it wrong, and just 1:46:04.160 --> 1:46:08.600 because you like it doesn't make it right. Right, So 1:46:08.760 --> 1:46:13.040 you you actually you can't know, You literally can't know 1:46:13.200 --> 1:46:16.439 what the future is. You can't know if we're gonna 1:46:16.479 --> 1:46:19.560 go downstairs after that and you're gonna be lunching and 1:46:19.640 --> 1:46:21.439 walk out in the street and that girl grabs you. 1:46:21.840 --> 1:46:27.400 Better not be my wife right there, right right, you know. 1:46:27.840 --> 1:46:35.240 But it's like like, you know, don't give me no, 1:46:35.400 --> 1:46:38.200 no no. If my wife there and I'm walking down 1:46:38.200 --> 1:46:39.800 the street, that girl need to let me get hit 1:46:40.560 --> 1:46:44.479 and put your hands on me later, you know. But 1:46:44.600 --> 1:46:49.880 you can't you we don't. You don't know what's gonna happen, right, 1:46:50.160 --> 1:46:54.439 You can't. You can't know what when you're gonna cross 1:46:54.560 --> 1:46:57.880 somebody's path again or something. My grandmother said something to 1:46:58.000 --> 1:46:59.880 me when we first got on the tour bus for me, 1:47:00.080 --> 1:47:02.960 Jeff Willie, this is your first tour, first tour period, yes, 1:47:03.160 --> 1:47:06.240 like you know, nineteen eighty eight or something like that, 1:47:06.760 --> 1:47:10.879 first time getting on a tour bus and my grandmother 1:47:10.960 --> 1:47:16.479 said we're getting on, said bye, baby, she said she says, okay, baby, 1:47:16.640 --> 1:47:20.080 just remember everywhere you go. One day you're gonna have 1:47:20.160 --> 1:47:22.280 to go there again. This is a grandmother that was 1:47:22.320 --> 1:47:25.439 sitting next to you during the on the now that 1:47:25.560 --> 1:47:27.759 was my mother. That was my mother. Yeah, my grandma, 1:47:28.000 --> 1:47:30.840 my grandmother, she passed. Let the grandmother that found the 1:47:30.880 --> 1:47:33.040 curse curse work. I found that. That's why you don't 1:47:33.080 --> 1:47:36.479 really curse that. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, you let other 1:47:36.520 --> 1:47:39.840 people curse on this out. No. Yeah, you think that 1:47:40.240 --> 1:47:46.240 you ain't curse, but you let the nigga. Okay, he's smart. 1:47:49.160 --> 1:47:52.920 A cursing character characters another person acting, so it's different. 1:47:53.400 --> 1:47:56.760 I gotta learn this acting shit. Yeah, that's my goal. 1:47:56.880 --> 1:47:59.280 Right now, I'm going to Will Smith act in class, 1:47:59.520 --> 1:48:01.000 going to Will's. If there are people me and you 1:48:01.080 --> 1:48:08.040 are a partner, Will will send yes, Will Smith network, 1:48:08.120 --> 1:48:12.639 but it's really don't let nobody know that, yes, your partner, 1:48:13.160 --> 1:48:17.479 sil secrecy. Will Let me just tell you something, man, 1:48:17.840 --> 1:48:20.400 I really respect you. 1:48:20.760 --> 1:48:21.520 I really. 1:48:23.160 --> 1:48:26.320 Once you understand that you laid the blueprint for every 1:48:26.439 --> 1:48:28.960 rapper who wanted to be something more than a rapper, 1:48:29.439 --> 1:48:34.240 because rapper was the quintessential level to where we wanted 1:48:34.240 --> 1:48:36.640 to get at At one point let me take off 1:48:36.680 --> 1:48:37.880 my glass to like a Macaolmax. 1:48:40.000 --> 1:48:45.080 But then you hugged Uncle Phil, and then you you 1:48:45.240 --> 1:48:47.280 brung gangsters. 1:48:47.360 --> 1:48:53.040 Regular people, street people, people who pack bags and wall bounds, 1:48:53.560 --> 1:48:57.439 people who deliver food for six brothers. You bring them 1:48:57.520 --> 1:49:00.560 all together because everyone had that little missing part of 1:49:00.680 --> 1:49:02.800 their heart, whether they had a father or they didn't 1:49:02.840 --> 1:49:04.519 have a father, they had something that was missing in 1:49:04.560 --> 1:49:07.360 their heart. They did that. Then you went on and 1:49:07.439 --> 1:49:09.599 then you conker. One of my favorite movies the all 1:49:09.720 --> 1:49:13.559 time is Enemy of the State. You know what Enemy 1:49:13.600 --> 1:49:14.880 of the stated? You remember that? 1:49:15.320 --> 1:49:22.320 I remember that one. That one I was there, look 1:49:22.360 --> 1:49:34.040 at me, look like because because I asked you earlier, what. 1:49:34.280 --> 1:49:38.600 Was your most serious role? And to me it was 1:49:38.680 --> 1:49:42.120 Independence Day? You and vivocat together. That that was That 1:49:42.240 --> 1:49:45.080 was too like the black actors. They put you all 1:49:45.080 --> 1:49:49.240 together and independent that Yeah, that was crazy. July fourth 1:49:49.400 --> 1:49:55.160 was different. Yes, big, okay, that's what it was. 1:49:56.160 --> 1:50:08.640 I was I'm like, year was that ninety six? That 1:50:10.560 --> 1:50:18.120 I can explain? It's cooled d what jail? Yes, you 1:50:18.200 --> 1:50:20.320 can explain. Yeah, but. 1:50:23.439 --> 1:50:27.639 Now listen told you bouncing around? Yes, now I realized 1:50:27.680 --> 1:50:28.519 that you and Michael B. 1:50:28.680 --> 1:50:32.960 Jordan is out of line, out of line, out of line, 1:50:33.920 --> 1:50:38.280 out of line. He's going to explain in a second, everybody, 1:50:38.439 --> 1:50:41.479 and I am legend died. How the fun is the 1:50:41.600 --> 1:50:45.200 part too? All right, coach? So hold on, by the way, 1:50:45.240 --> 1:50:47.880 I want to I can explain to a war or something, 1:50:47.960 --> 1:50:51.080 all right. So there was there was a there was 1:50:51.160 --> 1:50:56.120 an alternate ending that came out on the d v D. 1:50:56.360 --> 1:51:02.240 I got ye in the alternate ending, my character Liz. Listen, 1:51:02.320 --> 1:51:06.680 ye seating right now, but I respect it. Listen. Oh yeah, 1:51:06.760 --> 1:51:08.519 and I hadn't bring this. I wanted you to say this. 1:51:09.240 --> 1:51:11.680 Oh I believe you with that. No, you can't have it. 1:51:13.160 --> 1:51:14.400 You can't have it, but I just want you to 1:51:14.840 --> 1:51:19.840 because about it. Take a picture, well, let's take the 1:51:19.920 --> 1:51:25.000 figure with I want one bulf Okay, I'm sorry, I 1:51:25.439 --> 1:51:27.360 don't want to do that, but get yeah, so I 1:51:27.400 --> 1:51:29.800 am letting you yeah, no, no, no, you see how 1:51:29.840 --> 1:51:30.759 he was with this, yeah. 1:51:32.400 --> 1:51:35.280 Case listen when when e f N he has like 1:51:35.400 --> 1:51:39.439 little takes yeah right here yea. By the way, if 1:51:39.479 --> 1:51:41.679 you touch his take, even though this is your tape, 1:51:42.080 --> 1:51:47.080 it's my it's your music, get pause. That's it too much. 1:51:47.160 --> 1:51:48.040 Watch watch how you. 1:51:49.720 --> 1:51:51.519 He's gonna throw away into your wills. 1:51:54.360 --> 1:51:59.280 Okay, So she was throwing that like this, and he's 1:51:59.320 --> 1:52:03.240 talking like this. It feels like, calm down, guy, But 1:52:03.520 --> 1:52:05.680 I am lesgend. I'm gonna be honest with us. I 1:52:05.800 --> 1:52:10.400 watched all your movies bad boys every day. I did 1:52:10.479 --> 1:52:13.720 watch that alternate ending. Yeah, but I also realized I 1:52:13.840 --> 1:52:17.439 was making up a bag like let's get another bad No. No, 1:52:17.600 --> 1:52:19.920 you misread it, you miss read It's me. Let me 1:52:19.960 --> 1:52:21.080 tell you, let me tell you the truth. 1:52:21.240 --> 1:52:23.240 Let's go. So, here's the truth of what happened, all right, 1:52:23.560 --> 1:52:26.519 the ultimate see what had happened was what happened. So 1:52:26.640 --> 1:52:30.840 the alternate ending was the first ending, the original It 1:52:30.920 --> 1:52:33.640 was the original ending, was the original script, and it 1:52:33.720 --> 1:52:38.439 was based on the original novel. We tested it and 1:52:39.000 --> 1:52:40.960 it was the only movie I've ever had that the 1:52:41.080 --> 1:52:44.200 audience booed at the end, at the end of that 1:52:44.439 --> 1:52:48.400 ending when the so in the in the final scene 1:52:48.720 --> 1:52:50.400 where they come in and there around me and the 1:52:50.479 --> 1:52:56.320 alternate ending and the the Dark Seeker, what we realized 1:52:56.360 --> 1:53:00.599 and the alternate ending is that he realizes the one 1:53:00.680 --> 1:53:03.479 that I was keeping in the room was his woman. 1:53:04.760 --> 1:53:07.200 And I realized it was his woman, and he was like, 1:53:07.840 --> 1:53:11.479 you know, the meaning of the ending was, oh shit, 1:53:11.760 --> 1:53:16.320 I'm the monster. They think of me as the monster, right, 1:53:16.960 --> 1:53:18.800 And we looked up at the wall and we do 1:53:18.920 --> 1:53:21.120 the shot up at the wall, and you see how 1:53:21.200 --> 1:53:24.200 many of them I killed? And he looks at them 1:53:24.280 --> 1:53:26.479 and looks at them, and he looks at me and 1:53:26.560 --> 1:53:29.640 then he goes in and gets his woman and leaves. Right. 1:53:29.760 --> 1:53:33.920 So that was the alternate ending. We tested it and 1:53:34.920 --> 1:53:37.600 the only so how they do these things is they 1:53:37.680 --> 1:53:39.360 put it in front of an audience. You know, you 1:53:39.439 --> 1:53:41.880 get a couple hundred people. They fill it out, and 1:53:42.040 --> 1:53:45.200 you fill out you know, there's five boxes and you 1:53:45.360 --> 1:53:50.560 say either excellent, very good, good, poor, very poor. And 1:53:51.520 --> 1:53:53.679 what they do is they take the top two boxes 1:53:54.080 --> 1:53:58.360 and if you score, you know, ninety percent in the 1:53:58.439 --> 1:54:03.040 top two boxes excellent and very good, you're pretty sure 1:54:03.080 --> 1:54:05.919 you have a good movie. It was the lowest scoring 1:54:06.080 --> 1:54:10.240 movie I've ever ending. So they score the whole movie, 1:54:10.320 --> 1:54:12.600 but it was because of the ending ending, okay, and 1:54:12.920 --> 1:54:16.680 it scored fifty one in the top two boxes, and 1:54:16.800 --> 1:54:18.920 we were like what So then then they fill out 1:54:18.960 --> 1:54:21.840 the thing and it was like basically across the board, 1:54:21.880 --> 1:54:24.960 it was like the ending is bullshit, that's bullshit. He's 1:54:25.040 --> 1:54:27.880 not the monster. They're dark seekers. They've been chasing them, 1:54:28.040 --> 1:54:32.040 and there was something that was just horrific except they could. 1:54:32.120 --> 1:54:34.040 They was like, no, you're not the monster. We didn't 1:54:34.080 --> 1:54:37.520 watch this whole movie to figure out that you're the monster. No, 1:54:37.760 --> 1:54:42.360 they're the monsters. So they felt cheated. So six weeks 1:54:42.440 --> 1:54:46.320 before the movie comes out, we had to reshoot the 1:54:46.560 --> 1:54:49.480 ending that was actually in the movies where my character died. 1:54:49.560 --> 1:54:51.520 That's in New York City where you wasn't here. Yeah, right, 1:54:51.640 --> 1:54:55.680 so where where my character dies in the end actually 1:54:56.040 --> 1:55:00.120 is the alternate ending, right, So it's the it's the 1:55:00.240 --> 1:55:04.280 alternate ending. But we we were faithful to the novel 1:55:04.440 --> 1:55:06.680 in the in the previous ones. So when we did 1:55:06.760 --> 1:55:10.360 the new ending, it scored ninety one in the top 1:55:10.440 --> 1:55:13.040 two boxes, and it was like, it's just one of 1:55:13.080 --> 1:55:15.120 them weird things that happens. It was like, how much 1:55:15.160 --> 1:55:17.600 does that say about us? As I know? Right? Yeah? 1:55:17.880 --> 1:55:20.880 Humor yet watching that No, but it was it was, 1:55:21.600 --> 1:55:24.800 it was It was like a major save. We saved 1:55:24.840 --> 1:55:28.320 it because people, the audiences hated it, right, but it 1:55:28.440 --> 1:55:30.720 was what we originally wanted to do. So we were like, well, 1:55:30.760 --> 1:55:33.600 we we shot. You know, it was probably an eight 1:55:33.720 --> 1:55:38.360 million dollar ending that got scrapped. Wow, right, because we 1:55:38.440 --> 1:55:40.920 were special effects and all of that stuff in it. 1:55:41.200 --> 1:55:43.320 So well, so we ultimately we were like, well, we 1:55:43.440 --> 1:55:45.240 got to use it. We got to use it somewhere. 1:55:45.560 --> 1:55:49.000 So we put it on the DVD, on the DVD 1:55:49.120 --> 1:55:51.640 and Blu ray, so people saw it, so it popped 1:55:51.720 --> 1:55:54.360 up online and all of that. And then later the 1:55:54.440 --> 1:55:58.760 writer Akiva Goldsman, he's the Academy Award winning writer of 1:55:58.800 --> 1:56:02.800 a Beautiful Mind, and so he's like, hey, what if 1:56:02.880 --> 1:56:05.600 we made another one? What we were going to do 1:56:05.760 --> 1:56:08.640 is the prequel, So we were going to do the prequel. 1:56:09.120 --> 1:56:12.280 What happened before, So we were going to go back 1:56:12.360 --> 1:56:14.800 and do the prequel. And he was like, but wait, 1:56:14.880 --> 1:56:18.920 what if we make a new version from the alternate 1:56:19.520 --> 1:56:23.240 ending where your character is still alive? And you know, 1:56:23.920 --> 1:56:26.760 Michael B. Jordan's character currently is the head of a 1:56:26.840 --> 1:56:29.600 new settlement. So he's not your son, he's not my son, 1:56:30.480 --> 1:56:34.840 not my son, not my son, my dark seeker son. 1:56:36.800 --> 1:56:37.960 Well he's an evil right. 1:56:38.080 --> 1:56:40.320 But no, so uh well, no, I can't tell you 1:56:40.440 --> 1:56:43.960 to movie, give me like a long nobody watching this ship. Yeah, 1:56:50.280 --> 1:56:52.840 right right now. Just want to people that I am 1:56:53.120 --> 1:56:58.400 legend fans like me and I love the fact that 1:56:58.440 --> 1:56:59.280 we're doing the number two. 1:56:59.600 --> 1:57:03.000 But he said we we do, we do. I love 1:57:03.080 --> 1:57:07.920 to be doing another one. Will you know? You said 1:57:07.960 --> 1:57:12.760 we you know? We we do? We knew well, but 1:57:12.880 --> 1:57:14.000 I love the fact that you do. 1:57:14.240 --> 1:57:17.040 But I wanted it so so for people that's fast 1:57:17.120 --> 1:57:19.000 like me, make it makes sense for them. Tell them 1:57:19.080 --> 1:57:21.320 that you we got we had d N A left over. 1:57:21.800 --> 1:57:22.160 Michael B. 1:57:22.280 --> 1:57:27.360 Jordan is coming out DNA left off just making up ship. Yeah, 1:57:27.680 --> 1:57:28.960 I thought you you established that. 1:57:30.360 --> 1:57:33.920 But that's that there's not d NA. How does Michael B. 1:57:34.040 --> 1:57:36.440 Jordan come to assistance? Does a dog eat him? 1:57:36.800 --> 1:57:42.760 No? No, the dog there's a dog practically, I'm so 1:57:44.800 --> 1:57:47.640 when he was jogging and I am like other people. Adult, 1:57:47.800 --> 1:57:49.840 You're not doing a good job selling this movie right now. 1:57:50.760 --> 1:57:53.400 I'm not telling Michael George's movie. No, this is your 1:57:53.440 --> 1:57:57.040 new social media get him over here. No, no, no, 1:57:57.600 --> 1:57:59.640 it's really it's a it's a it's a cool concept. 1:57:59.720 --> 1:58:05.320 So uh or currently Michael Be's uh character is the 1:58:05.560 --> 1:58:07.160 head of a settlement. 1:58:07.640 --> 1:58:10.960 So there's a settlement in Connecticut. Right I'm gonna be 1:58:11.000 --> 1:58:13.720 honest will is the settlement is no judges. There's no 1:58:14.000 --> 1:58:15.640 nobody in the pregnant. 1:58:16.280 --> 1:58:17.760 So you're gonna you're not gonna watch it, or you're 1:58:17.760 --> 1:58:23.960 just gonna watch everybody dead. Everybody's not dead your life. 1:58:24.000 --> 1:58:26.320 So there's other people. You saw the girl and the 1:58:26.400 --> 1:58:33.720 little boy. Take it to the shot, last last shot. 1:58:33.760 --> 1:58:35.480 We're gonna get your flowers. We get you up there. 1:58:35.520 --> 1:58:39.080 You think you will, I know you got you. We 1:58:39.160 --> 1:58:45.720 go us. There's slow time of life. Thank you man, Hey, 1:58:46.200 --> 1:58:48.200 listen man, thank you man. This was fantastic. 1:58:48.280 --> 1:58:51.080 Please have listen man, come have form with us anytime you. 1:58:51.240 --> 1:58:55.120 You own Miami, Miami, Please please in Miami for sure. 1:58:55.160 --> 1:58:57.360 You know that's my town. Yeah, come by hang out. 1:58:57.480 --> 1:58:59.200 It was beautiful for us to come hang out with 1:58:59.280 --> 1:59:04.480 you Andiladelphia, because one Philadelphia is a town I couldn't 1:59:04.760 --> 1:59:06.320 as soon as as soon as I landed, I thought 1:59:06.320 --> 1:59:10.560 of trading places immediately and I couldn't realize why. And 1:59:10.680 --> 1:59:13.680 I realized that actually trading places happened here. But let 1:59:13.720 --> 1:59:16.520 me get back to the point. Well, because of my 1:59:16.600 --> 1:59:18.720 man Lex man, you know what I mean, big up 1:59:18.720 --> 1:59:21.560 to your whole team being so I mean, they were 1:59:21.640 --> 1:59:23.800 so official, so efficient. 1:59:23.840 --> 1:59:26.800 I don't even know if I'm making sense, but get it. 1:59:26.840 --> 1:59:29.200 And they were so great, and I just want to 1:59:29.240 --> 1:59:32.160 thank you so much because so many great people like 1:59:32.280 --> 1:59:36.440 you have a terrible team, and then so many people 1:59:36.520 --> 1:59:40.080 have a great team and then they're terrible people. 1:59:40.560 --> 1:59:42.560 Oh wow, you actually got some shit worked out. 1:59:43.720 --> 1:59:46.160 Like I mean, for nine years of me dealing with 1:59:46.560 --> 1:59:50.640 every artist from fifty said to you, name him, I 1:59:50.680 --> 1:59:53.000 don't want to keep name dropping. I'm telling you this 1:59:53.160 --> 1:59:57.400 is purely a pleasure for me. Your album is fucking awesome. 1:59:57.920 --> 1:59:58.520 I ain't gonna lie. 1:59:58.560 --> 1:59:59.000 I'm sorry. 1:59:59.040 --> 2:00:00.960 I'm sorry to say this, but I was listening to 2:00:01.040 --> 2:00:03.200 it like there's no way he could still be this hungry. 2:00:03.440 --> 2:00:05.960 So I was actually listening to it for a flaw 2:00:06.240 --> 2:00:08.480 and I didn't fly in one. And the thing about 2:00:08.520 --> 2:00:10.080 it is, I want to salute you for that. I 2:00:10.160 --> 2:00:13.040 want you to know that you appreciate it. I want 2:00:13.040 --> 2:00:16.200 you to know everything that you did because in a 2:00:16.280 --> 2:00:20.720 certain way, had you not rapped and went to Sitcom, 2:00:20.760 --> 2:00:24.160 from sitcom to movies and then dominated all these worlds, 2:00:24.680 --> 2:00:28.240 we wouldn't have had that from us. He's a DJ, me, 2:00:28.360 --> 2:00:30.800 a rapper, us to go to podcast, so in a 2:00:30.880 --> 2:00:33.120 lot of ways. You might own Drink Chances, but we 2:00:33.200 --> 2:00:34.400 could do a deal for Old Brooklyn. 2:00:34.400 --> 2:00:38.400 You know your part of it. We thank you, man. 2:00:38.840 --> 2:00:41.640 I appreciate you man for taking your time out. And 2:00:42.240 --> 2:00:44.120 I just want to say something before this is all up. 2:00:44.840 --> 2:00:46.960 He didn't ask me to say this, lexing next me 2:00:47.040 --> 2:00:48.720 say this. No one asked me to say this. This 2:00:48.920 --> 2:00:50.400 might be one of his best albums. 2:00:51.960 --> 2:00:59.040 I love that. No what do y'all say? I'm not glazing. 2:01:00.760 --> 2:01:04.800 No cat, no cat, no, no can't no blazer listens. 2:01:05.000 --> 2:01:07.560 Listen to that ship and I'm gonna tell you this 2:01:08.040 --> 2:01:10.000 just in case. And by the way, he did not 2:01:10.120 --> 2:01:13.040 tell me this. Listen to the first two tracks. 2:01:14.400 --> 2:01:15.040 If you're not. 2:01:16.880 --> 2:01:21.240 Intrigued, adapted, and want to continue for the first two traps. 2:01:22.120 --> 2:01:24.360 First two tracks, excuse me, You're not human. 2:01:26.960 --> 2:01:29.000 That's it, and you can be an I am legends. 2:01:40.440 --> 2:01:43.720 Drink Champs is a Drink Champs ll C production hosts 2:01:43.800 --> 2:01:45.480 and executive producers n O. 2:01:45.680 --> 2:01:48.760 R E and d J. E. F f N. Listen 2:01:48.800 --> 2:01:49.360 to Drink. 2:01:49.240 --> 2:01:53.520 Champs on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you 2:01:53.640 --> 2:01:57.440 get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another episode 2:01:57.440 --> 2:02:00.560 of drink Champs hosted by yours truly, dj E and 2:02:00.760 --> 2:02:02.840 n O r E. Please make sure to follow us 2:02:02.880 --> 2:02:06.080 on all our socials that's at Drink Champs across all platforms, 2:02:06.640 --> 2:02:06.920 at the. 2:02:06.960 --> 2:02:09.720 Real Noriegon, I g at Noriega on 2:02:09.800 --> 2:02:13.920 Twitter, mineus at Who's Crazy on I g at dj E, 2:02:14.120 --> 2:02:16.480 f N on Twitter, and most importantly, stay up to 2:02:16.520 --> 2:02:19.840 date with the latest releases, news and merch by going 2:02:19.880 --> 2:02:21.360 to drink Champs dot com