Speaker 1: It is drinks Chests, motherfucking podcasts.
Speaker 2: He's a legendary queens rapper.
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Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer put up as d
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Speaker 3: When we started the show, we said that there wasn't
Speaker 3: an outlet for people who has been seasoned in this game,
Speaker 3: for people who have been ten years or more with
Speaker 3: the person that we're about to introduce. The person that
Speaker 3: we're talking about. Not only is he season he's making
Speaker 3: look good.
Speaker 1: He has dominated every world for when you talk about
Speaker 1: with your parents not understanding, to sitcoms to movies, to
Speaker 1: dominating goddamn gumming on a goddamn plane. Preach this, motherfucking
Speaker 1: don't gear. He is the potential when you think of
Speaker 1: black excellence. When you think of a person who came
Speaker 1: from the hood and made it somewhere and kept going.
Speaker 1: This is the fucking picture you should see in the
Speaker 1: dictionary for not just black people, for ally more throughout
Speaker 1: the world, for people who made it from the bottle
Speaker 1: and really, really, really made it to the top.
Speaker 3: This man has dominated so many feels. We are proud
Speaker 3: of him. We are happy to have him on the show.
Speaker 3: In case you don't know what we're talking about, we're.
Speaker 1: Talking about I'm about to say, fresh Prince. That's That's
Speaker 1: where I'm going with you. Yes, we take it, Anna say,
Speaker 1: but you can't forget we're in Philly. Philly, by the way,
Speaker 1: let me just tell you something.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you, and I know some
Speaker 3: people from Philly gonna question this.
Speaker 1: This this is what I'm about to say. Well, just
Speaker 1: be careful because you still yeah I am. You don't
Speaker 1: know what about to say I am Because, first of
Speaker 1: Philly is my.
Speaker 3: Number one market from me being from New York and
Speaker 3: even in drink Champs, I believe it's always been on
Speaker 3: top five mark. But this is the first time ever
Speaker 3: I flew to Philly and I've seen clear blue Water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, did Will Smith by.
Speaker 4: This?
Speaker 1: Mother? A? I phil Blue Water? Like, I mean, come,
Speaker 1: I'm coming from Miami coming. I was like, did you
Speaker 1: buy some ship? You know, because I knew ya was coming? Switch?
Speaker 1: We hit this swit. We hit the switch when when
Speaker 1: luminaries coming, you got a street named after you? Congratulations? Man.
Speaker 3: See, are people not only when they get a street
Speaker 3: named after them, but most of the time it's always
Speaker 3: after they pass away, and most of the time almost
Speaker 3: after like they reached their glory days.
Speaker 1: And it's like kind of like when they reached it,
Speaker 1: like you're on top for sure, you're not dead, You're
Speaker 1: not that you're well alive. A couple of days last year,
Speaker 1: I wish I was, so, how does this happen? May
Speaker 1: I calls you and what do they say? So, you know,
Speaker 1: Charlie Max, Charlie, that's my dude, and you know he's
Speaker 1: really connected with the city and stuff like that. So he's, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he's always pushing for stuff like that. That's
Speaker 1: my that's my day one ride or die, you know.
Speaker 1: So they made contact and you know, it's funny. It
Speaker 1: was like really changely emotional for me. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: because I want awards and stuff like that. But the
Speaker 1: it's a it's a street named after me in front
Speaker 1: of my high school. It hits this right, so and
Speaker 1: and it hit real different and my mom is sitting
Speaker 1: there and the mayor presents it, you know, and it
Speaker 1: was like and it's called will Smith Way, right, and
Speaker 1: it really it really hit me with the idea of
Speaker 1: like what is the will Smith Way that kids are
Speaker 1: gonna come out and cross the bridge and think about
Speaker 1: the will Smith Way? That was? That was so do
Speaker 1: you think that? Do you think your your neighborhood will
Speaker 1: have crime in it? Or you're gonna We're gonna put
Speaker 1: we ended that's right. We only only elevated. We only
Speaker 1: we only elevated. Were learning and growing and evolving. So
Speaker 1: I'm a bounce around a little bit. I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: a drink. Drink what they got what they put in here? Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know some will smips. I'm just letting you know.
Speaker 1: I was like I would say, you know, I to
Speaker 1: do like drink champs. I wanted to sit with y'all
Speaker 1: like I'm a drink chump. So we get the lit'sten.
Speaker 1: We're gonna phrase that I'm gonna be let's yeah, it ain't.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be no good one. Drink. Okay, we have
Speaker 1: a beautiful Philly bartender here, So would you like to
Speaker 1: serve with Will Smith?
Speaker 5: Drink?
Speaker 1: Okay, keep it real. What's your name, Amanda? How you doing? Man?
Speaker 1: Just so so we go, okay, all right, boom, we're
Speaker 1: gonna bounce some right. Do you realize.
Speaker 3: It might be my opinion, but I believe everyone else
Speaker 3: and in here is probably gonna say the same thing.
Speaker 3: Bad Boys franchise might be the best franchise in movie history.
Speaker 1: Mmm. Okay, I'll take that. I'll take that. That's definitely
Speaker 1: your opinion. You know some people go disagree, Well, name
Speaker 1: somebody who would just we're only talking golf. We only
Speaker 1: talk the god Oh, the Godfather. We only talk Godfather
Speaker 1: for sure, God, because that's all seriousness. They were throwing.
Speaker 3: Fishes and ship if y'all was throwing fish and somebody
Speaker 3: you know, like, yeah, we we have that.
Speaker 1: Well we're gonna add some fish next time, be up
Speaker 1: there with the Godfather. But okay, it's hard to do
Speaker 1: what we did in Bad Boys. The one thing I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get that I'm gonna give us because you know,
Speaker 1: I can't say it about myself, but I can't. I
Speaker 1: do agree with you. I agree y yeah. But like
Speaker 1: twenty seven years after Bad Boys Too, like to be
Speaker 1: able to do a third one twenty seven years later,
Speaker 1: and then be able to do a fourth movie and
Speaker 1: they all are increasing in in the box office success.
Speaker 1: That's that's hard to do. That's hard to do it.
Speaker 1: That's how I realized how dope it was. And I
Speaker 1: realized how good you was the actor when I realized
Speaker 1: you got DJ college and promot. That's true. You're just
Speaker 1: going that. I can take it. He's Collage, very funny.
Speaker 1: So on on on Bad Boys three, calid. You know,
Speaker 1: he was having a hard time with his lines and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So on Bad Boys four, he decided
Speaker 1: he was going to be perfect. So he's stating character.
Speaker 1: So he was. I was like, yo, so listen, like
Speaker 1: in the in the parking lot, coming into work, I was, Yo, Cali,
Speaker 1: what's up? What's uping? Yo? Hey, what's up. He's stayed
Speaker 1: in character for like two weeks. I didn't see him
Speaker 1: out of character. I was like, Callage, you're doing a lot.
Speaker 1: It's just it's Bad Boys you don't have to do
Speaker 1: method active for boys. He stayed in there hard though,
Speaker 1: but he did a He did a really he did
Speaker 1: a good job. Like the I've watched the movie in
Speaker 1: ten countries and when Cali comes on camera around the world,
Speaker 1: audience is like they just he got a thing. People
Speaker 1: just love seeing them. So as my friend Capone walked
Speaker 1: in from Copona and Noriega and I'm thinking about.
Speaker 3: Odd Legacies are one of the first records on the album.
Speaker 3: By the way, you was starting on the album, Yo.
Speaker 1: Yo, I'm listening to that. I'm like, Yo, you're trying
Speaker 1: to show you. I feel like I feelve you had
Speaker 1: something to prove. Yeah, no, I have more than something
Speaker 1: to prove. I had something to say, right, And you know,
Speaker 1: I felt like the first track on the album is
Speaker 1: called uh Shop interior barbershop. There he was having fun
Speaker 1: on that. I was having fun, right, So what I
Speaker 1: wanted was like, you know, let everybody know, I know
Speaker 1: what job saying someone reminded me of somewhat what eminem did,
Speaker 1: like everything about so no one can say right, absolutely
Speaker 1: continue because it was based on Eddie Murphy's barbershop scene
Speaker 1: from Coming to America, right, So I played three characters
Speaker 1: on the track, Jeff play one and be some mom.
Speaker 1: Uh played a character. But what I wanted to do
Speaker 1: was to really to set it to rap. So the
Speaker 1: people are talking, but they're talking in rhyme form lines
Speaker 1: back and forth. So I wanted it to be a
Speaker 1: really unique, uh kind of creation where I got to
Speaker 1: just say everything that I wanted to say. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: like it's in the back of people's mind. So first track,
Speaker 1: I want to get it out so we can, you know,
Speaker 1: open up to talk about what I want to talk about.
Speaker 1: Intro right into the track, like Abby Dabby, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So let me ask you. We're standing the burn the forest,
Speaker 1: in a burning forest. Didn't know where I'm going, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: we a burning burning forest. You got one bottle of water.
Speaker 1: One bottle of water. This one bottle of water to
Speaker 1: saved somebody. But you got two choices. You got Martin
Speaker 1: Lawrence there, damn, and then you got Jazzy Jeff. Damn.
Speaker 1: Wow ended out for me. Damn. It's Martin Lawrence and
Speaker 1: Jazzy Jeff and it's one bottle of water. I heave
Speaker 1: that bitch in the forest and we all die. Together.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say about that component fn I did not
Speaker 1: have to answer. God, I'm like, yeah, no way, ain't,
Speaker 1: no way, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be able to live
Speaker 1: with myself either way. We are, We're gonna all end
Speaker 1: it right now.
Speaker 3: Okay, So let's let's speak about Jazzy Jeff, right, because
Speaker 3: that relationship to me, yeah, man, and.
Speaker 1: We all know that that is really really good question.
Speaker 1: By the way, about that all that's a really that's like,
Speaker 1: that's a really.
Speaker 3: But that's a very seldom thing in this industry, right
Speaker 3: when you look at people who had twenty five year relationship, right,
Speaker 3: and then God bless me because I'm not coming at
Speaker 3: this new generation.
Speaker 1: But you see these guys, they last a year or two.
Speaker 3: They can't stick with the manager, they can't stick with
Speaker 3: the rol person, they can't stick with everybody. But you
Speaker 3: and Jazzy Jeff have like a thirty year career.
Speaker 1: But then you don't.
Speaker 3: You don't have them just one. You have this Martin Lawrence,
Speaker 3: the same thing. And then I've read somewhere or heard
Speaker 3: somewhere where Martin Lawrence didn't even want you in Bad Boys.
Speaker 1: No, No, it was the other way. The studio didn't
Speaker 1: want me. Martin had the script. Oh wow. Right, so
Speaker 1: the studio didn't want me, and Martin said he wouldn't
Speaker 1: do it if it wasn't with me. Oh wow. Right,
Speaker 1: So Martin wanted he had the script, and you know,
Speaker 1: he was looking at Eddie and his sister was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I really think you need to do this.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, right, Well, his sister was, I really think
Speaker 1: you need to do it with Will And he thought
Speaker 1: about it, and he called me and we had a meeting,
Speaker 1: and then the studio was like, yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like both of us were we were successful on TV,
Speaker 1: but we weren't Eddie, right, So they wanted to do
Speaker 1: it with Eddie, and Martin was like after we met,
Speaker 1: He was like, no, it has to be well we weren't.
Speaker 1: We met. He called me to come to his house
Speaker 1: to pitch Bad Boys, and we met. We had a
Speaker 1: dinner at his house, and we met that night for
Speaker 1: Battle Let's yeah, and then just ever since then, it's
Speaker 1: like it's hard.
Speaker 4: To have.
Speaker 1: Real relationships, you know. You know, but like in this business,
Speaker 1: it's hard to have it's hard to have real relationships
Speaker 1: because what happens, especially you know in in movies, you're
Speaker 1: talking about you know, five, ten, twenty dollars. When you're
Speaker 1: talking about it, you're talking about real talking about Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about real money. It's really hard for somebody
Speaker 1: to make a decision for a relationship over a decision
Speaker 1: for money, you know. And it's it's like, Martin, is
Speaker 1: you know, one of those relationships. It's like one of
Speaker 1: one of my only my real relationships are before movies,
Speaker 1: like you know, we and Philly, and you're looking around
Speaker 1: and like, you know, like the youngest of my squad
Speaker 1: got twenty years you know, the goal here, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, I'm in this season of
Speaker 1: my life. I'm really taking notice to those things. Right
Speaker 1: first day on the set of Bad Boys four, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. I'm going to go on and Martin said, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: he said, he said, man, we made three of these
Speaker 1: and we don't really remember a lot. He was like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pay attention for this one, okay. When he said,
Speaker 1: we do remember a lot with me because we just
Speaker 1: like we were running, running, running around, Paying said, he
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, no, it was day one. He
Speaker 1: was like, no, slow down, And it's like we're gonna
Speaker 1: take in, we're gonna live in the experience, you know,
Speaker 1: and it was really good, and we kind of settled down.
Speaker 1: He was like, we're gonna make the movie. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be good, or it's gonna not be good. He was like,
Speaker 1: but what we have is our attention, and I was like,
Speaker 1: got it. And we just really just settled down and
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, that's my that's my dude right there. Man,
Speaker 1: Like he is as as authentic a person as you
Speaker 1: will ever meet Mark Martin.
Speaker 4: Was it a culture shot going from the music side
Speaker 4: to the Hollywood side?
Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, it was really it was different in
Speaker 1: the in the sense that so music is really current, right,
Speaker 1: So you're you're making this stuff, you're in it, and
Speaker 1: it's really current. And then what happens when you into
Speaker 1: television it slows down a little bit. It's like five
Speaker 1: months delay you make something and then it's you know,
Speaker 1: five months before it comes out. Then when you get
Speaker 1: in a movie, it could be two years before it
Speaker 1: comes out, and like it just loses the the immediacy
Speaker 1: of it. So for me, that was that was, uh,
Speaker 1: the biggest difference, the biggest difference, Like in the expression
Speaker 1: of it. It's like you don't get to you don't
Speaker 1: get to create and get it out in a timely
Speaker 1: fashion where you like you're checking in to see how
Speaker 1: people get feedback. You're getting your feedback, right. So it's
Speaker 1: it's harder to stay current with with movies and television
Speaker 1: than it is with with music. What about the environment though,
Speaker 1: in terms of that, in terms of the people, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been I've been blessed man. You know,
Speaker 1: immediately on the Fresh Prince of bel Air, I was
Speaker 1: with Quincy Jones. You know that was his idea, right
Speaker 1: that wash Yeah, so Quincy Jones, it was about him, correct,
Speaker 1: it was Benny Medina was with Quincy Jones. Benny Medina
Speaker 1: was an a n R exact at Warner Brothers, be
Speaker 1: a J. Lowe manager. He j Loe's manager, and he
Speaker 1: had an idea. It was based on his life. So
Speaker 1: he went from Watts to Beverly Hills and Quincy changed it,
Speaker 1: you know, he changed it to Philly. He was like,
Speaker 1: what's your rap name? I was like, Fresh Prince. He said, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the character's name, Fresh Prince. Where you're from Philly?
Speaker 1: I said, all from Philly? He said, oh, man, I
Speaker 1: got some stories about Philly. We don't talk about it,
Speaker 1: you know. But Quincy changed it to Philly and then
Speaker 1: he said, Benny, Benn, he grew up in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: And we were at Quincy's house and he was like,
Speaker 1: this is bel air. He said, you like this house?
Speaker 1: I said, I like this. Yeah. He said, yeah, bell
Speaker 1: A make Beverly Hills look like public housing. He was like,
Speaker 1: you know, buck Beverly Hills, it's bel air. So Quincy
Speaker 1: changed it, like literally in one night. He changed it
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia to bel Air and named the show The
Speaker 1: Fresh Prince of bel Air. Yeah before you before before
Speaker 1: been in audition that time. Were you the first rapper
Speaker 1: doing a sitcom? Yeah okay yeah yeah, so fresh the
Speaker 1: the uh now I got to ask home before you
Speaker 1: go because at that time, doing anything commercial, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was all bad. It was round upon, Yeah, you're making
Speaker 1: this round upon. That's a light, that's the like light.
Speaker 1: It was like it was doing a foul ship. Yeah, foul.
Speaker 1: That ship was whack. People get hard. Was whack. That
Speaker 1: ship was corny and will Smith as ship. All right,
Speaker 1: but you're making the money.
Speaker 3: You got the hollywoodlights and you go from Philly to
Speaker 3: actually real Hollywood.
Speaker 1: How was that experience? You know, it was more than
Speaker 1: Philly Hollywood that was hard. It was the Philly l
Speaker 1: A that was hardy. Like they got different rules in
Speaker 1: l A. And it's it's like, you know, you you
Speaker 1: you learned the hard way walking around in LA with
Speaker 1: your red Phillies baseball cap boy, Like, yeah, that ship
Speaker 1: I didn't even know. I was like we was learning,
Speaker 1: learning the hardware out there. It's like they just got this.
Speaker 1: It's it's different, different rules, you know. So it's the
Speaker 1: the first thing was like trying to just get the
Speaker 1: lay of the land of how to you know, how
Speaker 1: to move out there in terms of Hollywood. I guess
Speaker 1: really like the the big issue in the transition U
Speaker 1: for me was more about acting. The difficulty was about
Speaker 1: acting versus rapping. It's a whole different thing to like
Speaker 1: be looking in somebody's eyes and say a line from
Speaker 1: the sitcom to the movie well no, no, from from music. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not. It was like the really different, different thing
Speaker 1: that was hard for me. And I was like nolthing
Speaker 1: people's lines and stuff like that. So it was like learning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was terrible. It was terrible. That the big transition
Speaker 1: was like Quincy never asked if I could act. He
Speaker 1: just he saw my music video, so he assumed that
Speaker 1: I could act. So I was on the set of
Speaker 1: The Fresh Prince of bel Air and never have really
Speaker 1: done anything, you know, So it was like that, but
Speaker 1: you know, Quincy had the power to do that.
Speaker 3: What was your first serious role, because you know, at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, they all thought, you know,
Speaker 3: rappers are fat, right, and then you know you're on
Speaker 3: The Fresh Prince and it's working. But then it's it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, I know Jamie Fox was like the Ray character, right.
Speaker 3: What was your first serious role besides Muhammad Ali?
Speaker 1: The first was I did I did a movie I think,
Speaker 1: uh sex second season of Fresh Prince called six Degrees Separation, Yes, okay, separation.
Speaker 1: So that was my first you know, attempt at dramatic acting.
Speaker 1: But on the on The Fresh Prince, really the father
Speaker 1: scene with Uncle Phil was like the first that first
Speaker 1: of I don't want to watch that, don't do that?
Speaker 1: How come he don't want me? Man? It's like, that's
Speaker 1: damn myself. But yeah, that that that scene was like
Speaker 1: the first time you know where where it was like
Speaker 1: looking to expand and be able to you know, hold
Speaker 1: a dramatic scene. And James, you know, everybody on that
Speaker 1: show was like stage trained veterans. Joe Marcel was from
Speaker 1: the Royal you know, uh, British Academy, you know, and
Speaker 1: you know Janet Hubert written you know, was a triple
Speaker 1: Broadway threat, you know, singing, dance and acting. Like so
Speaker 1: everybody had intimidating for you. It was it was really,
Speaker 1: it was really intimidating, but it was it was love.
Speaker 1: Everybody you know wanted me to win. In the beginning
Speaker 1: was a little bit, I think because rappers was taking actors' jobs,
Speaker 1: so that wasn't a good look for that. English people
Speaker 1: are taking America. Yeah, they don't like that. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, they they they are well trained though, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's a that's the thing, uh, especially with with
Speaker 1: like with black actors in America, because the opportunities aren't
Speaker 1: the same. We're not. It's like we don't get you know,
Speaker 1: stage training to prepare for for acting. It's like it's
Speaker 1: it's a really it's we do it from a much
Speaker 1: more from the muscle natural space, and our training is
Speaker 1: actually on the job, you know, whereas you know British actors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they did. They listen, they're doing the damn
Speaker 1: thank you. So.
Speaker 3: So we have a game on our shows called quick
Speaker 3: Time with Slim right where we take you ask questions
Speaker 3: and we take shots. If you don't want to take shots,
Speaker 3: you can have somebody from Philly who represents you coming
Speaker 3: place and take your shots. Or maybe you have one
Speaker 3: or two shots.
Speaker 1: You can take a shot. You can take a shot.
Speaker 1: You want Japanese whiskey, you know, like a Japanese listen,
Speaker 1: just give me the So you gotta get ready. You're
Speaker 1: gonna get ready because this first question is mine. Everybody
Speaker 1: back up. Everybody back up. It's not even on this
Speaker 1: is not even it's not even on the list.
Speaker 5: Alright.
Speaker 3: I do not recommend that I do not recommend that
Speaker 3: you know you're a fly motherfucker. I got Japanese whiskey
Speaker 3: just in case you want from the else of of Tokyo.
Speaker 3: From the House of I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know, said from the alf.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make it sounds gonna have me message
Speaker 1: from the Tokyo. Alright, this is a question. There you go.
Speaker 3: She from the Prince world universe and if I get
Speaker 3: it now, we're gotta remember some of the rules.
Speaker 1: No, you gotta tell them. You telling these rules. And
Speaker 1: because you're making this ship up, yeah, you know, so
Speaker 1: we got Tokyo.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: What we do.
Speaker 1: Is that we asked the Japanese question.
Speaker 5: You know, we're gonna give you two choices.
Speaker 4: Yes, you pick one. We're not drinking. But if you
Speaker 4: don't pick, we're drinking. Okay, So you can say both
Speaker 4: and neither. We're drinking both or neither, we're drinking okay.
Speaker 4: All right, So we want stories. This is all to
Speaker 4: bring up story.
Speaker 1: All right. This is a lifelong fresh friends question, right,
Speaker 1: that's that's what you like that Instagram? This morning you
Speaker 1: was practicing and I said, does anybody have questions? Will?
Speaker 3: And this question popped up so much, so many times
Speaker 3: and so fast, because everyone knows about this game is
Speaker 3: called quick timas line you give.
Speaker 1: Them, it's called quick Thomas Live. So everyone knows. Everyone
Speaker 1: knows this.
Speaker 3: So soon as we I texted, I texted the picture
Speaker 3: that with me you or Charlie Matt And this is
Speaker 3: the first one.
Speaker 1: And this is a very important one.
Speaker 3: Remember this or that, this or that said neither.
Speaker 1: Speak Vivian.
Speaker 3: Because I want to say it politically correct in one VIV.
Speaker 1: One or or VIV two. I'm trying to say what
Speaker 1: I'll say I'm doing as another one.
Speaker 5: I hear the bottles in the forest drinking.
Speaker 1: Slow?
Speaker 3: How many times in your life it has people ask you,
Speaker 3: doesn't it so it doesn't burn when you drink it?
Speaker 1: Oh and burn? I'm just trying to be you like
Speaker 1: you will slip that definitely burns. That's tasty though. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's from the the full set up. How many
Speaker 1: times have you been to ask that question? Oh my god? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it is. It was one of the most
Speaker 1: like difficult times in my life.
Speaker 3: Right, you know, because you don't understand it's a job
Speaker 3: you have a relationship with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you know what on on those kind
Speaker 1: of sets you take on the relationships of your character.
Speaker 1: It's like your set parents. Yeah, right, so it's like
Speaker 1: it's real, that's real relationships. You go. You know, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, this is your first relationship. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: like that that that that loss, that that's I'm not
Speaker 1: a man that's prone to too much regret, you know,
Speaker 1: because I believe things happen, and they you know, if
Speaker 1: you're if you're happy today, you gotta you know, accept
Speaker 1: that it's because of the things that went right and wrong.
Speaker 1: And you know, but that that was that was a
Speaker 1: you know, Janet and I are magnificent uh friends now,
Speaker 1: but that that was a very very very hard time
Speaker 1: for me. And it was like, I didn't see you,
Speaker 1: said Jenny aunt Janet. First, I don't want people don't
Speaker 1: like I'm just talking about crazy. Yeah, the first hand
Speaker 1: of Janet, Janet Hubert written, she was she she's magnificent, right,
Speaker 1: and you know, my young arrogant eyes couldn't see that,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's like just the depth and the
Speaker 1: power that she she brought to the show. I just
Speaker 1: I was I was missing it. I just I couldn't,
Speaker 1: you know. When I look back, it's it's like it's
Speaker 1: really you know, it was obvious what she was bringing. Uh.
Speaker 1: But Daphne, you know, Maxwell Reid, you know, cultivated a
Speaker 1: beautiful relationship you know with her, But it was a
Speaker 1: really Janet is a special kind of you know, beautiful
Speaker 1: talented power were full. You know, she was she was
Speaker 1: holding it down and I certainly wasn't wasn't seeing how
Speaker 1: powerful and important she was to the show.
Speaker 3: Now it's always these rumors that Michael Jackson is like
Speaker 3: a gangster on the side, right, is content Ban's gang
Speaker 3: banging on?
Speaker 1: I mean no, no, let me tell you that is
Speaker 1: one of the most committed comedic actors I have ever met.
Speaker 1: But nobody commits like he commit when he listened when
Speaker 1: he goes part of one of the you know, I've
Speaker 1: really learned my comedic acting on the set of The
Speaker 1: Fresh Prince of bel Air. And the thing that Alfonso
Speaker 1: does is like, even when he doesn't like something, you know,
Speaker 1: he always gives it one hundred percent. His thing was like,
Speaker 1: let the writers see if you if you tanked the
Speaker 1: joke and you don't give it all, they're gonna think
Speaker 1: that it didn't work because you sabotage it. And he
Speaker 1: really taught me a you like, you know with that
Speaker 1: Carlton dances stuff like when he goes, he goes, and
Speaker 1: it's like you you can feel, uh, the power and
Speaker 1: the fun of his commitment. It's funny because he commits
Speaker 1: so hard to to the joke. Yeah, he's he's a
Speaker 1: he's a unique breed. Okay, I'm gonna take another shot
Speaker 1: you because I got you just gonna take a shelt.
Speaker 1: I got a Chris question. You got to question this
Speaker 1: for me? Shot look like rules.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me just say, Philly, yeah, you take a
Speaker 3: shot before.
Speaker 1: They hold on hold. You know what I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to the next one. You know what you're correct? Yeah,
Speaker 1: rapping or acting? Rapping? Man. So here's the thing I
Speaker 1: think I am. I'm more naturally an actor, really right.
Speaker 1: I think that the what my mind most naturally falls
Speaker 1: into it as far as entertainment. I saw you reached
Speaker 1: for it and then you pull back.
Speaker 6: You can.
Speaker 1: You just want to drink? He was breaking it down
Speaker 1: so good. I was like, really came out of me,
Speaker 1: by the way, Yes, it has such.
Speaker 6: A beautiful soul, my god, like another one what you said?
Speaker 1: So I'm more naturally an actor, right, but my love
Speaker 1: is hip hop right, And it's like, you know, acting
Speaker 1: is when it comes out of me like I can
Speaker 1: when I can go into a character, like I can
Speaker 1: transform my mind and my eyes when I look at
Speaker 1: somebody and fall into a character. It's like really it's
Speaker 1: natural for me yo. And it's it's like it's like
Speaker 1: moving moving your energy and attention around in your inside
Speaker 1: your body, right, so I can like fall into you know,
Speaker 1: what did that motherfucker say? I hear your brother say
Speaker 1: it again? I just don't wire right now? Right, So
Speaker 1: that like, and I've always been able to do that,
Speaker 1: to like see something and mimic a character. So I've
Speaker 1: always been able to u mimic it, and as I
Speaker 1: got older, I could like fall into the emotion of
Speaker 1: it where it changes the look on your face, it
Speaker 1: changes your it changes your eyes, it changes your body
Speaker 1: language and just you know, so I've always been able
Speaker 1: to do that naturally you.
Speaker 4: Learned that with time or you did you ever have
Speaker 4: to take classes?
Speaker 1: So I never so I naturally could mimic, right, So
Speaker 1: I would look at how somebody walked, or I would
Speaker 1: listen to somebody's voice, and I could I could copy.
Speaker 1: And then as I got older, like copying is shallow, right,
Speaker 1: but then where does the emotion come from? And being
Speaker 1: able to find the deeper and deeper place and layers
Speaker 1: as I got to know myself better. Actors call it
Speaker 1: a toolbox where you have a toolbox where like so
Speaker 1: for example that the fresh scene, fresh print scene, you
Speaker 1: were talking about the father scene. I use the father
Speaker 1: scene to find sadness, so I'll use that for you know,
Speaker 1: for King Richard. For example, there was the scene with
Speaker 1: about Venus Serena. Yeah, for that. There was a scene
Speaker 1: where at the at the net with Venus before he
Speaker 1: lets her go and play. I watched the fresh Print
Speaker 1: scene before that. It's a prep right, so I prepped
Speaker 1: to like get you watch yourself to prep for yourself. Yes,
Speaker 1: I respect that. So but the music, there is nothing
Speaker 1: like being on stage and fifty thousand people here drums please,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like that moment when people realize
Speaker 1: you about to do the song they've been waiting for.
Speaker 1: That's the top of entertainment. That is the top when
Speaker 1: they hear the first couple clicks up the record, that's
Speaker 1: the one they wanted to hear. There's nothing there's nothing
Speaker 1: like that in entertainment. So that's that's my It's my
Speaker 1: my love versus what I'm actually best at.
Speaker 4: But you know, the but you was dope about you
Speaker 4: that I've noticed throughout your career, no matter how Hollywood
Speaker 4: you went, and you were always hip hop.
Speaker 1: And infusing men in black when you brungs And then
Speaker 1: I was watching that the scene today and it was
Speaker 1: like y'all didn't even talk.
Speaker 3: And I'm like I remember actually being in a movie
Speaker 3: theater and god bless me white people, but they didn't
Speaker 3: know what.
Speaker 1: The communication was. They were just like they going, that
Speaker 1: was alien to I wonder if you'll start a popcorn
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, But you always keep
Speaker 1: how did you? How do you do that? Likew What
Speaker 1: it is is the it's the it's the thing that's
Speaker 1: unique about what I bring. Right. So it's like you know,
Speaker 1: being being born and raised in Philly and in hip hop,
Speaker 1: it's the it's the thing that's uniquely me right at
Speaker 1: your core, at my core. So when I bring that,
Speaker 1: you know, ninety percent of the character can be comprehensible
Speaker 1: to you know, general audiences, but then you add that
Speaker 1: little sauce that is the unique special sauce. So for
Speaker 1: me in terms of hip hop, like you'll never see
Speaker 1: in any movie ever where they beat box as an
Speaker 1: alien language, right, Like that's like I love that. It's
Speaker 1: like only I can do that, right, you know, Like
Speaker 1: I said, I was so mad at the movie people
Speaker 1: didn't get it. I was like, yet, my god, yeah
Speaker 1: that but even to call Biz to do it right,
Speaker 1: to know that I want Biz to do that piece,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's like a R P B is
Speaker 1: r B. Yeah, God, damn, I have to look you
Speaker 1: get all right? All right?
Speaker 3: The first one, now hold on, let me I got this.
Speaker 3: Another one is also off the off off the menu
Speaker 3: of off the menu, Jay z or Nas.
Speaker 1: Think about it. They got you, both of them got
Speaker 1: your number. That's important. Damn. That's a hard one too.
Speaker 1: That's how I want to who's more petty? No, I
Speaker 1: have more more. I have more of an interaction with
Speaker 1: with with Jay z uh But I think I think
Speaker 1: that for I'm I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go Nas
Speaker 1: on that one. I'm gonna go Nas, I'm gonna go. No,
Speaker 1: just took us here, they said, no, yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 1: I mean I have more of a relationship with with
Speaker 1: with Jay, but I think not Nas has made me
Speaker 1: study rapping more. Like when I hear Nas, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm way off the fucking bark, mark, I got I
Speaker 1: gotta get to work, you know. So yeah, Na Nas
Speaker 1: pushes me into study more. Okay, because you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly there you thinking about that, So you have
Speaker 5: to answer yeah, not a lifelong but a very long
Speaker 5: time in Queens.
Speaker 1: The rumor is that NAS helped you with Jiggy with It,
Speaker 1: so we not Jiggy with During the time that I
Speaker 1: was working on Jiggy, NAS did uh just Cruising. It
Speaker 1: was a record called Just Cruising, right, So me and
Speaker 1: me Ands wrote Just Cruising together and I let Nas
Speaker 1: listen to the album and he was like yes, no, yes, no,
Speaker 1: yes no, And I was like, so we did. We
Speaker 1: didn't do any writing together other than the Just Cruising track,
Speaker 1: but you know, an executive cruiser. Yeah, he was, well,
Speaker 1: he was not really an executive producer. He was there
Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, will you listen to this
Speaker 1: and tell me what you think you know? And you know,
Speaker 1: he was honest. He was. He was really honest. And
Speaker 1: then we wrote one together. We wrote Just Cruising. It
Speaker 1: was like a B side of Men in Black or so.
Speaker 1: Because he's never confirmed or did not like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: come up to him like you we know you would. Yes.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he laughed, he just yeah. We definitely,
Speaker 1: we definitely worked in the studio together. I think we
Speaker 1: might have messed around with two or three other songs,
Speaker 1: but just Cruising is the only one that ever was released.
Speaker 3: Okay, so let me ask you because listening to this album,
Speaker 3: first off, I was very very impressed. One I'm not
Speaker 3: impressed because.
Speaker 1: Of what you did.
Speaker 3: I'm impressed because I was trying to figure out with's
Speaker 3: this hunger right? Because all of us to make music,
Speaker 3: we have to have hunger right, and then when you're
Speaker 3: not hungry no more, it's harder.
Speaker 1: To make use it. So I'm sitting there, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 3: I was, you know, first off, your people who sent
Speaker 3: the album big up to the lexing them this will
Speaker 3: never be bootlegged.
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, my face scare. Did you get
Speaker 1: maybe download downloaded? Like dirty years working ship? I was
Speaker 1: just like yo, I said, for whoever your team is,
Speaker 1: it's so official. Listen to me. They can send this
Speaker 1: ship to the bootlegging place in Kenya, Toby running the house,
Speaker 1: and they still can't bootleg this shit. I just being honest.
Speaker 1: It took three of us in one car to go
Speaker 1: through the whole album. But here's what I was saying.
Speaker 1: I kept listening, and I kept saying, I kept saying,
Speaker 1: where's he going to slack at?
Speaker 3: Where's he going to say, you know what, I'm this
Speaker 3: you know movie star, I'm this guy that reached order accolades.
Speaker 3: I'm so crazy now that I do white boy sports
Speaker 3: and you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, like, I'm but I'm still black.
Speaker 1: And then but then you come in this album and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find but I was so jealous because
Speaker 1: I couldn't find you not being hungry. I still felt
Speaker 1: that hunger. I still heard French fresh Prince, and I'm
Speaker 1: jealous of that because you know, if me and a
Speaker 1: poem right now going to make a Worr report, I
Speaker 1: don't think we can I can have that same attitude.
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking for him. I'm speaking for myself. And
Speaker 1: so I was.
Speaker 3: I was jealous because it took me a whole day
Speaker 3: to download it. So when I finally because you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not that smart, but I had two smart people.
Speaker 1: And it got them. So I was like, I would say,
Speaker 1: it's not just me, but going through it, and then
Speaker 1: I went back through it and I was just like,
Speaker 1: I can't see how you locked in?
Speaker 3: Did you go to like Bali or somewhere like how
Speaker 3: could you lock in and and and block the world
Speaker 3: out and focus on this because it's one it sounds
Speaker 3: like you super focused.
Speaker 1: Two it sounds like you still love the game, love it.
Speaker 1: That's the problem.
Speaker 3: That's the part that I'm mad like because I'm like, damn,
Speaker 3: how could he be the way made more than me?
Speaker 3: Obviously have more eccolas and all on wins and things
Speaker 3: like that, But how does he still have that hunger?
Speaker 3: That's that's that's that's the question for me personally and
Speaker 3: not even for the world.
Speaker 1: Like I felt that hunger in you. So what happened blood?
Speaker 1: I ain't got a blunt That's how good that question was. Now,
Speaker 1: what happened? What happened with me? Man? Is you know
Speaker 1: in the in the last couple of years, like I
Speaker 1: really just it down, you know, and you know, really
Speaker 1: after the Oscars, I just shut it down, and I
Speaker 1: did a real deep dive, Like I looked at I
Speaker 1: looked at myself as honestly as I could, and I
Speaker 1: looked at all of the parts of myself that I
Speaker 1: always thought of as not for public consumption. Right, So
Speaker 1: there was a Will Smith, and there was an in
Speaker 1: an image, and there was an an an identity of
Speaker 1: Will Smith. But that was only my good qualities it
Speaker 1: was only the best of me. You're saying, what swift
Speaker 1: to the public, right, Yes, Will Smith to the public
Speaker 1: was only the best of me. Will Smith wasn't allowed
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 3: Beautiful the beautiful post that you you posted, and you
Speaker 3: posted what you on the island, then you showed that
Speaker 3: it was blue behind you.
Speaker 1: So you're saying like something like that's that that you
Speaker 1: know that that was a one way to do it.
Speaker 1: But the idea that you never saw me not smiling,
Speaker 1: right right, but you could probably imagine there was some
Speaker 1: times when I wouldn't be smiling. It's just that wasn't
Speaker 1: for public consumption, you know, So you know there was
Speaker 1: there was. It was just the best qualities of me.
Speaker 1: So then you know, I was forced into a situation
Speaker 1: where I had to be honest that I don't just
Speaker 1: have good qualities. I have some things that I have
Speaker 1: pushed down. I have you know, fear, I have confusion,
Speaker 1: I have anger, I have sadness. Oh you're human, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah.
Speaker 3: You know that's probably the most beautifulest thing. And I
Speaker 3: know you spoke about it, but I won't. But what
Speaker 3: I'm saying is the most beautiful thing about you is
Speaker 3: you own your humanness. Yes, and and you know, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be honest and I'm bouncing around. But I always
Speaker 3: related to the five percent nation or like the Muslims
Speaker 3: a little bit more than the preachers, because the preachers
Speaker 3: showed me that they didn't have mistakes. But when I
Speaker 3: seen you know, the five percenters, I've seen the FOI
Speaker 3: handing out the newspaper. I seen that brother messing up before,
Speaker 3: so it made me relate to them all.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what you know, what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that's what I feel like with you.
Speaker 3: But my thing is you've never lost a step, and
Speaker 3: if you did, I guess you was just a minute
Speaker 3: that but you didn't show it to the world.
Speaker 1: How can you do that? So for me, now now
Speaker 1: this about this time, this phase of you know, my
Speaker 1: career and really this phase of my life is as
Speaker 1: I looked into myself in that way and I like
Speaker 1: really confronted those parts of myself that my humanity, not
Speaker 1: the just the straight Superman winning all the time, the happy,
Speaker 1: happy Superman winner. Right when I started confronting those other
Speaker 1: parts of myself, something really magical happened. Right as I like,
Speaker 1: the best way I can describe it is like imagine,
Speaker 1: like you know, I pushed my anger down and I
Speaker 1: held it and then it popped and then I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend like you're not there, like
Speaker 1: let's talk, right, and I really like confronted it. And
Speaker 1: then it's almost like there was a hole under my
Speaker 1: anger that my anger was plugging. But inside the hole
Speaker 1: was great shit. It was great creativity and great power
Speaker 1: and like new ideas. And it was like by not
Speaker 1: accepting that part of myself, I was cutting off the
Speaker 1: good that it could offer me. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: there's no bad qualities, there's no bad qualities in you.
Speaker 1: There are things that are neglected that will be a superpower.
Speaker 1: If you befriend your anger, if you befriend your sadness,
Speaker 1: not try to get rid of it, befriended, befriend the
Speaker 1: fact that you're scared, Like be okay that you're scared.
Speaker 1: You still got dude of shit, but don't pretend like
Speaker 1: you're not scared. Like be scared, but still do it.
Speaker 1: Like when you befriend those energies versus like fighting them,
Speaker 1: they become superpowers. They become your army. So like you
Speaker 1: have this army of energies, and that's the place where
Speaker 1: I am right now. Like the good qualities that I
Speaker 1: thought were the strongest, will Smith, that's not. It's like
Speaker 1: now those qualities are backed up by all of these
Speaker 1: other energies that are like having been cleansed, like not
Speaker 1: you don't want them to drunk drive through your life.
Speaker 1: But now they've been like cleansed, and now they're giving
Speaker 1: me gifts. They're giving me poetry, they're giving me power,
Speaker 1: they're giving me patience, they're giving me certainty, you know.
Speaker 1: So to me, there's a long way to answer the
Speaker 1: question the hunger I'm from. Like, I got cheat codes, right,
Speaker 1: I got cheat codes. I want to, Like I want
Speaker 1: to share cheat my cheat codes. I want to, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to. I'm not. I never thought I needed derby, dude,
Speaker 1: like the way you broke, I want you need to
Speaker 1: be a defist, like or like tell somebody your dirty
Speaker 1: because I was I was so in like I want
Speaker 1: to you know how when it's I'm like, yo, can
Speaker 1: we tell you that was so? That was so dope, man,
Speaker 1: that's so dope man.
Speaker 3: And I noticed a cliche question, And I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: back to quick time of slim.
Speaker 1: But did you have a thing that you would make
Speaker 1: it this far? H man. I've been beyond my dreams
Speaker 1: for like twenty years. I've been beyond anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know now and it's like I'm in unknown
Speaker 1: territory right now. I have no idea where this is going.
Speaker 1: I have no idea you know what's happening. But you know,
Speaker 1: if you think of it as a wave, right, I
Speaker 1: know I can surf, right. So I'm like, you know, life,
Speaker 1: bring it back? Yeah, right, right, I don't know like
Speaker 1: things are. So when I when I was saying cheat codes, right,
Speaker 1: so one of the first things there's a there's a
Speaker 1: song on an album called you can Make It. You
Speaker 1: can make It. It's a Monday, yes, so one of
Speaker 1: the cheat codes around you can make it? Right, So
Speaker 1: as I as I sit in this room right now, right,
Speaker 1: so a bunch of black men, you know, and you know,
Speaker 1: we would never admit we're having a hard time, right,
Speaker 1: but you don't have to tell me. I know you are.
Speaker 1: I know you are, and I can be here and
Speaker 1: I can make it harder for you, or I can
Speaker 1: be here to have you be stronger when I leave, right,
Speaker 1: but what I used to think that you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I got to defend myself. I don't have to defend
Speaker 1: myself from you. We both having an equal hard time.
Speaker 1: If I don't aggress upon you, you're not going to write.
Speaker 1: It's like if you know that I know that you're
Speaker 1: having a hard time, and that I don't want to
Speaker 1: be any part of why it's more difficult for y'all, right,
Speaker 1: And it's like like that's a cheat code. Like that's
Speaker 1: a real cheat code. People see it in your eyes
Speaker 1: when you know they're having a hard time and you
Speaker 1: don't want to make it harder. They also see when
Speaker 1: you don't give a fuck, if they see you don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck, not a part of them that don't
Speaker 1: give a plut you know what I mean. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: it's like to me, it's like part of the part
Speaker 1: of that cheat code of entering rooms and entering interacting
Speaker 1: with people. It's like, I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: but I know every single person in here is struggling
Speaker 1: with something, with something right, and at different levels. You
Speaker 1: know some you know, somebody's going through a breakup, and
Speaker 1: you know somebody you know lost some money that they
Speaker 1: really needed. Somebody that got a loved when it just died.
Speaker 1: You know, somebody's family is fighting over something. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody's lifing, right, So it's a cheat code to don't
Speaker 1: get lost on the person in front of you, even
Speaker 1: if they're aggressing. They're aggressing because life is fucking you.
Speaker 1: It's what's not you. Life is hurting them, and they
Speaker 1: even may perceive that you're aggressing just how you walk.
Speaker 1: It don't even have to be you. They could they're
Speaker 1: perceiving that you're aggressing, and they're prepared to hurt you. Right.
Speaker 1: But it's like the cheat code is just know that
Speaker 1: don't even don't even go into that energy space with them,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know for me, like that song
Speaker 1: you can make It, It was like that was part
Speaker 1: of the discovery, like you know, don't don't get distracted
Speaker 1: from the fact of every step you take is affecting
Speaker 1: people's lives as you move, right. So that was what
Speaker 1: part of the idea of you you can make it
Speaker 1: is like keeping in my mind when I'm looking at people,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you can make it. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is, brother, but I know you got it. You
Speaker 1: got it. You know. And it's like holding that energy
Speaker 1: as a real cheat code because then people want to
Speaker 1: help you when they feel like you're open to want
Speaker 1: to help them. Voter want to help you. But it
Speaker 1: takes vulnerability to open that. Men don't. We don't do
Speaker 1: that with each other. Right, So for me when I
Speaker 1: come downstairs, brothers, it's welcome to Philly, like like like
Speaker 1: I want you to enjoy it and have fun with
Speaker 1: you in Philly, you know. And it's like I want
Speaker 1: you to feel safe and have a good time. I
Speaker 1: got cheese steaks for you, you know. And it's like
Speaker 1: that energy is an energy of abundance. You like you,
Speaker 1: You build things, you make friends, you build relationships, You
Speaker 1: create a safe space around you. When you start from
Speaker 1: that mindset that the person is going through something, it's
Speaker 1: like you're trying to reverse the idea of hurt people
Speaker 1: hurt people. Yes, absolutely, trying to reverse absolutely, you know.
Speaker 3: But I want to say something because the rollout that
Speaker 3: your family, the people that work with you, you've seen
Speaker 3: you a million dos work for games. We've seen you
Speaker 3: on what's the guy name that tells everybody to stop
Speaker 3: smoking in his airbnb?
Speaker 1: You did play Boy back.
Speaker 3: And you did drink chances and when you're looking at that,
Speaker 3: you're sitting back saying, damn, your team knows what they're doing.
Speaker 1: They're shifting with the time.
Speaker 3: A lot of people would have went to, you know,
Speaker 3: the traditional radios, which you had you dropping an album,
Speaker 3: so obviously you want the radio splays. But right now,
Speaker 3: black young, unscripted media is running the world. So the
Speaker 3: fact that your team knew that, Like, I watched it
Speaker 3: and I'm sitting back and I'm like, whoever's on your team,
Speaker 3: they know exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 1: So here's my question.
Speaker 3: You knowing that now that black young media is running
Speaker 3: the thing, where is Overbrooks Podcast Company? Where's Overbrooks Production Company?
Speaker 3: For the young directors? Putting young next? Willsmith for the
Speaker 3: young next, Kevin Hart, that's here? Eat was like me,
Speaker 3: he chis with because I know you brought cheese steaks
Speaker 3: and you trust.
Speaker 1: Me, I'm gonna be judgment to home. Helpy came up
Speaker 1: and said, I forgot the cheez whiz. I said, I'm
Speaker 1: judging you on both times.
Speaker 3: I'm here from Philly. But but but that's you know,
Speaker 3: it's something that I learned and I had to learn
Speaker 3: going through it because I had to go through it. Nas,
Speaker 3: who he spoke about earlier. Nas could have had Copona
Speaker 3: Nori Jega sign. He could have had Mob Deep sign,
Speaker 3: he could have had a Z sign, he could have
Speaker 3: had Foxy Brown sign. But he chose to kind of
Speaker 3: be our friends right when we wanted. We might have
Speaker 3: wanted our leader at that time. So if you look
Speaker 3: at Nas and that's my brother, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: them before I got here. But then you look at Jay.
Speaker 3: Jay didn't really care about him being your leader or not.
Speaker 3: He wanted to make good business. So if you look
Speaker 3: at that, but then if you look at them both,
Speaker 3: that's what you are like, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: you're a person who has the movies, your person who
Speaker 3: has the music. And then and obviously podcasts is this
Speaker 3: a new thing? And I'm sitting back like, why isn't Overbrook?
Speaker 3: You know that virsion of our heart, know how our
Speaker 3: heart has all this? And then you got you got
Speaker 3: Netflix and God bless us. Right we made Netflix and Chill.
Speaker 1: That was a dude that was born during COVID and
Speaker 1: said Netflix and Chill and the whole ship, this is
Speaker 1: our people. When is our people who are at that
Speaker 1: top going to invest into people, whether it's that that
Speaker 1: bottom or whatever. And I'm not just saying overbook, it's
Speaker 1: just like I kind of feel like black folks or
Speaker 1: hip hop folks should invest in hip hop now. So
Speaker 1: here's so, was that a good question? First?
Speaker 3: That that was really good? You felt good about it.
Speaker 3: I'm like it was like it was sharp, it was
Speaker 3: a little bit it was yeah, but I want you
Speaker 3: to answer, we need blacks to invest in blacks?
Speaker 1: Yes, cheers cherious, Yes, So that one. No, so right, So,
Speaker 1: first of all, it's it's always been the case right
Speaker 1: that my manager, Miguel, he's still in here, he would
Speaker 1: he would always say what's urban is suburban? Right? So
Speaker 1: so our community has always led right, so uh always
Speaker 1: let right. So it was you know, brands, you know
Speaker 1: before run DMC were always looking at what was happening
Speaker 1: and they say, yes, absolutely, they were always looking at
Speaker 1: what happened in the inner city. And then once run
Speaker 1: DMC really they they broke the barrier. They didn't have
Speaker 1: a deal with Adidas. They were wearing Adidas before they
Speaker 1: had to deal with and then they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: got it right, So Adidas didn't even know their sales
Speaker 1: were spiking because run DMC was wearing Adidas. Right, So
Speaker 1: that the idea of the the the inner cities and
Speaker 1: urban communities leading in in you know, fashion and branding
Speaker 1: as we've always been that. So in terms of you
Speaker 1: know the question of why we don't do that, so
Speaker 1: we do do it, it's it's bandwidth is an issue. Right.
Speaker 1: So you know, I know Kevin Heart's company, you know,
Speaker 1: Heartbeat Overbrook, big y'all up man, we got yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that big y'all up definitely, you know, but when you
Speaker 1: get to fifteen projects, you're at your whole company's bandwidth, right.
Speaker 1: But there's four thousand, you know, people who deserve a look, right.
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, you got one executive that's
Speaker 1: working ten projects that they believe in that one is
Speaker 1: going to go right, right, So you look at a
Speaker 1: company after four years and it's like, you know, so
Speaker 1: for us with our company with like bel Air, okay, right,
Speaker 1: so we've got black staff and you know, black and
Speaker 1: brown writing and staff and all of that, but it
Speaker 1: takes everything our TV division has to keep that show
Speaker 1: up and relevant and going. And then you just don't
Speaker 1: have the bandwidth to have a second one going to
Speaker 1: it's like all hands on deck to make show, to
Speaker 1: make sure the show wins, because when you get the shot,
Speaker 1: you have to win too, right, you know. So you
Speaker 1: know we have that, we set it up, and then
Speaker 1: you know, things happen, so you start building it out right,
Speaker 1: So you'll start building out your divisions and you get going,
Speaker 1: and then there's a strike. Oh yeah, the writer's strike.
Speaker 1: Now there's a writers strike and you have to like,
Speaker 1: you can't survive because you can't work and you can't
Speaker 1: hold one hundred percent staff, so you got to scale
Speaker 1: down to twenty percent staff until the strike is over.
Speaker 1: Now you lose all of these great people, you lose
Speaker 1: all of these great projects, and now you're starting up
Speaker 1: all over again. Right, So there are business considerations like
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry has like the most like stable foundation of
Speaker 1: being able to make things in churn them out. But
Speaker 1: you know it's bandwidth. Also Tyler's writing and directing, you
Speaker 1: know all of this stuff too, right, So it's really
Speaker 1: it's it is. The idea is simple to say, but
Speaker 1: when you look at reality, the reality of it is,
Speaker 1: if you have a staff of forty, you could get
Speaker 1: to bandwidth on a staff of forty people with two projects.
Speaker 1: You could be like, you get two big things going,
Speaker 1: and what it takes to keep it going is like
Speaker 1: it's really hard. Then what happens is then you have
Speaker 1: to let other people be in charge. Right, So when
Speaker 1: I'm looking over a project, like, I'm I'm the taste, right,
Speaker 1: so you know, I have other people that are really
Speaker 1: good taste. But as you get broader, you lose the
Speaker 1: taste and then you start making things that aren't good
Speaker 1: and that's not helpful either, you know. So it is,
Speaker 1: it is a It is a complex it's a complex problem,
Speaker 1: and more complex in today's media landscape where everything is
Speaker 1: every day is turning over. So on top of it,
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, yeah, ten years ago, you could
Speaker 1: take a big bet and be pretty sure you're going
Speaker 1: to make it limited box office yeah yeah right, you know,
Speaker 1: so it is that, you know, it is. It is difficult,
Speaker 1: and people now are thinking of it as disposable, right,
Speaker 1: so movies, yeah, disposable, well, entertainment and general the content
Speaker 1: is disposable, freed everybody. So you can't even like, you know,
Speaker 1: make a two million dollar bet on something because people
Speaker 1: might decide that that's not exactly. Yeah, it's it is
Speaker 1: a it is a difficult issue, and I'm in a
Speaker 1: lot of those rooms. It is not because people are
Speaker 1: not trying to make it. Yeah, it is not because
Speaker 1: people yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they always say that being the first person,
Speaker 3: it's beautiful, but you know, you get you get looked,
Speaker 3: get frowned upon.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm using that lightly. Again.
Speaker 3: You were the first person to win a Grammy, first rapper,
Speaker 3: first rapper to ever win a Grammy.
Speaker 1: Right, we boycott it and you boycott it and one
Speaker 1: and one still except that's right, we didn't accept one.
Speaker 4: But were you guys solely boycotting on your own or
Speaker 4: it felt like it was a hip hop?
Speaker 1: Boy? It was a hip hop So so what happened
Speaker 1: the So it was the first year ever that pop
Speaker 1: got hip hop got acknowledged by the Grammys. So they
Speaker 1: acknowledged that they had the category, but they said they
Speaker 1: weren't going to televise the the hip hop category. They
Speaker 1: weren't going to televise it. So we were like, well, wait,
Speaker 1: we sold more records than everybody, Like, why is that?
Speaker 1: Why is our stuff not being televised? So Russell Simmons
Speaker 1: and le Or Cohen and m t V organized a boycott. Okay,
Speaker 1: and you're not on depth Jam, I'm not on deaf Jam.
Speaker 1: Rush's management makes sense, Okay, I just wanted to make
Speaker 1: a sense. Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm so they organized a boycott.
Speaker 1: They said nobody where Nobody's going. So MTV has a
Speaker 1: counter show that's going to boycott the Grammys. So we go,
Speaker 1: and you know, two days before the Grammys, we find
Speaker 1: out that Como D has agreed to appear Grammys. Damn
Speaker 1: with the big glasses and a yeah yeah cool yeah
Speaker 1: so D but he uh and it's so crazy because
Speaker 1: it seems it seems so little and silly now, but
Speaker 1: it was like the biggest thing is everyone looked at
Speaker 1: the betrayer. Yeah liked and we Me and Mo were
Speaker 1: like great friends. We still are, but it was like
Speaker 1: it was like huge that he crossed the line and
Speaker 1: he went and did an intro to the Grammys. Wo right,
Speaker 1: so yeah he did the whole legend. It was just
Speaker 1: it was just it's so funny because it was like
Speaker 1: the biggest like our lives depended on this and it
Speaker 1: was like the worst ship that ever happened. Uh, Me
Speaker 1: and Mo laugh about this now. But so we're there
Speaker 1: and it's US and Salt and Pepper and LL and
Speaker 1: stets of Sonic and so it's like fifty rappers and
Speaker 1: we're standing and we're watching and you know, they're doing
Speaker 1: the show. And then they they do the earlier tonight
Speaker 1: awards were given in the rap category and we're standing
Speaker 1: with all the rappers and me and Jeffers standing were
Speaker 1: looking at the TV and we were nominated against It
Speaker 1: was o pp It was uh was it still a
Speaker 1: rapping R and B just right. It was the first
Speaker 1: time that it was just wrapped. So it was like US, L,
Speaker 1: Salt and Peppa h. This was dominated Super Sonic. Oh
Speaker 1: that's right, yeah, yeah, JJ past on two three four,
Speaker 1: I'm missing a missing a fifth my name running m
Speaker 1: C was in there all right, So it was you know,
Speaker 1: so everybody was nominated. So we're standing there and we're
Speaker 1: watching the TV and they say and earlier this afternoon,
Speaker 1: DJ j Z, Jeff and Fresh Prince were awarded Best
Speaker 1: Wrap and we're standing there with everybody, and I was
Speaker 1: like a boycott. You didn't know you were gonna win.
Speaker 1: I didn't know were you what? I was like, man,
Speaker 1: me and went in the other room and it was like, yo,
Speaker 1: the first grandy ever give it to a wrapper, And
Speaker 1: it was like we never, we never really you know,
Speaker 1: had the chance to fully celebrate. But it was really
Speaker 1: giant hearing that we wanted the first ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, hip hop could be you know, critical until
Speaker 3: they actually make that position right. Like it's like it's
Speaker 3: like a person seeing the first person doing the alley, like, well,
Speaker 3: that shit looks crazy, and then you learn how to do.
Speaker 3: This is legit, you know what I'm saying. So after
Speaker 3: winning the Grammys, when did it become cool to actually
Speaker 3: win Grammy?
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure you got chasts, yeah for sure now
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, well they only won
Speaker 1: because white people like their music. But that's cool. They
Speaker 1: won because it's they want one, because it's soft, you know,
Speaker 1: it was their their music was palatable for other audiences.
Speaker 4: That critic is still going on to this day. When
Speaker 4: itgory for sure, you know, you know, I think I
Speaker 4: think it was probably like.
Speaker 1: Like three three Grammys later where it was like cool,
Speaker 1: cool to to win the Grammy. It was like that
Speaker 1: that next year still wasn't cool, but they televised it,
Speaker 1: so it was like good that they televised that they
Speaker 1: were respecting the genre. But it was yeah, definitely, like
Speaker 1: three years later that it was like a real prestige
Speaker 1: thing to to win a Grammy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because now everybody's bragging about it, but back then
Speaker 3: they were like pistol the Grammy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I hope actually did it pistle you well,
Speaker 1: Kanye one of them did that. They said, No, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's an honor. Anytime anybody will say
Speaker 1: we appreciate what you do, I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of silliness that goes into that. It's not about the award,
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's a work you know that you
Speaker 1: put into Somebody is saying, hey, I appreciate what you do,
Speaker 1: and you know what your how your gifts are being
Speaker 1: received by humanity. Is that that is That's a real thing.
Speaker 1: Is there any aspirations to be to have an egot
Speaker 1: to all of them? Uh? Because you know, I'm I'm pasted,
Speaker 1: I'm past awards in in my mindset. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a there's a thing I think that everybody. Uh, I
Speaker 1: wish that everybody could have everything they dream to realize
Speaker 1: that that's not it. You know I've said before, like
Speaker 1: there's a there are people talk about rock bottom that
Speaker 1: when you hit rock bottom is when you'll make a
Speaker 1: change drugs like drugs. People say dr rock bottom in life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it is that people say it in in
Speaker 1: you know, in a talking about rock bottom. But there's
Speaker 1: a core responding place that I call cliff top. Right,
Speaker 1: you could be too high, where you get so high
Speaker 1: that you realize literally none of the stuff can make
Speaker 1: you happy. Right after you you get you can get
Speaker 1: to the end of the material world. You get to
Speaker 1: the end of money, you get to the end of sex.
Speaker 1: You know, you get to the end of fame. You
Speaker 1: get you you you have so much, and you get
Speaker 1: and then you you like go off of a cliff
Speaker 1: into the same kind of abyss that you'd be scared
Speaker 1: of slipping into at rock bottom, right where life loses
Speaker 1: all of its ability to sustain and please you. And
Speaker 1: then the only thing that's left the same thing at
Speaker 1: rock bottom. The only thing that's left at cliff top
Speaker 1: is you have to You have to find what you
Speaker 1: actually looking looking for, And what you're actually looking for
Speaker 1: is you. You're looking for you. You're running around right
Speaker 1: when you when you like a woman and you like
Speaker 1: being with a woman is because you like how you feel.
Speaker 1: You like what's happening inside of you. When you have money,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, it's cool to buy things, but it's
Speaker 1: not the money. You like how you feel inside. It's
Speaker 1: unleashing a feeling inside and at rock bottom and at
Speaker 1: cliff top, what you have to learn how to do
Speaker 1: is generate that feeling without anything external you want to
Speaker 1: You have to learn how to like like you so
Speaker 1: much that you like being alive so much that you
Speaker 1: you bring positive energy that's not generated by stuff. Right
Speaker 1: because stuff is coming and going, like people are coming
Speaker 1: in going. Everything you have and everybody you love is
Speaker 1: going to rise and fall in your life. The place
Speaker 1: that we have to find is a spiritual place where
Speaker 1: we are good with us. We trust us. I trust myself,
Speaker 1: I trust God, and I trust life that whatever happens,
Speaker 1: I'm going to make happy out of it. I don't
Speaker 1: need specific things to happen.
Speaker 4: And I think also the important thing is we forget
Speaker 4: that that journey is really the middle part is really
Speaker 4: the best part of me.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. It's like being able to be right here,
Speaker 1: right now with whatever arises and not need a specific
Speaker 1: thing to happen, right, And it's like, you know, part
Speaker 1: of the beauty of these these moments for me and
Speaker 1: these interactions for me, it's like I don't need a
Speaker 1: specific thing to happen with us. Now, I'm open and
Speaker 1: I'm excited, Like what's going to evolve from this moment.
Speaker 1: And as soon as I have a specific thing that
Speaker 1: I want to happen that I want from you, now
Speaker 1: it it it throws off the energy of our experience,
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm just learning to accept life as
Speaker 1: it comes. Just relax.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: Some ship's gonna come that you don't like, some ship's
Speaker 1: gonna come that you do like. And it's like, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to just cultivate a mind that is able to
Speaker 1: accept and add love to any circumstance that arises. Letting go.
Speaker 1: This is what I got to do that let me
Speaker 1: join you properly. Cheers, So look at me. So I
Speaker 1: want to speak about you quick time was like we
Speaker 1: just didn't go back sometime. I want to say something
Speaker 1: about Philadelpia. Don't care nothing about the rules, but.
Speaker 3: Philly has made such a dramatic mark in hip hop,
Speaker 3: he says after you, like prior to you, we had
Speaker 3: Schoolly Deal first, then we had you, and like you said,
Speaker 3: like so many people.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of firsts from Philly and hip hop
Speaker 1: is going way better. You know what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: from him. But so many people didn't understand because you
Speaker 1: were making clean rap, right for lack of a better term, right,
Speaker 1: you were making clean rap.
Speaker 3: A lot of people didn't know what rest Philadelphia was.
Speaker 3: A lot of people didn't know what Philadelphia was. A
Speaker 3: lot of people didn't know that Philadelphia. You're gonna get
Speaker 3: killed out there.
Speaker 1: You're done, and you're gonna shot a shot and and
Speaker 1: they might stay there to like It's like so a
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't know that because New York was
Speaker 1: so much of but now Philly has kind of like
Speaker 1: took his own mark, like like I mean, through hip hop,
Speaker 1: through through so many different things, through comedy, cav How
Speaker 1: did how did you did you see that Philly would be.
Speaker 3: Prominent like that because it's damn near next to New
Speaker 3: York at this point.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting, Like Philly was all out news
Speaker 1: right so to to me, the the hip hop culture
Speaker 1: and the creative culture in Philly and even before that,
Speaker 1: when I you know, when I was growing up, Joe
Speaker 1: Fraser was Philly. Yeah history, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: so you know there there has been a long history.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, Wilt Chamberlain went to the high school.
Speaker 1: I mean that he was going with He's famous brothers
Speaker 1: literally a couple of times, you know. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's a rich history. There's a rich, rich history of
Speaker 1: talent and successful people. Julius Irving, you know when I
Speaker 1: was growing up, so you know, for me, it was
Speaker 1: always I knew that I was going to do my
Speaker 1: best to be a part of a rich history. I
Speaker 1: didn't feel like I was starting anything right, So I
Speaker 1: felt like I was being you know, gambling ugh, and
Speaker 1: you know, I felt like I was being a part
Speaker 1: of a history, contributing, contributing to something that was already
Speaker 1: you know, alive and well.
Speaker 3: Listening to this album, I felt like you called everyone
Speaker 3: and everyone said yes, but I'm wondering if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: Was there anybody that you called for this album and
Speaker 3: they were like, I'm busy or I'm in Costa Rica?
Speaker 1: No, you know, yeah, no, there there were there were
Speaker 1: a couple of people who who weren't sure about working
Speaker 1: with me. There were yeah, there were, There were definitely
Speaker 1: definitely a couple of people. It was the hot water,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. They were like, yeah, we'll wait for
Speaker 1: the second round. Will were round, Yeah, the boy the boiler,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we'll see. But it was actually that that
Speaker 1: was new for me too, that I got that was
Speaker 1: real humbling. I'm used.
Speaker 8: I was used to when when Big Willie call it
Speaker 8: was you know, I was like, I was saying, but
Speaker 8: they honest about it.
Speaker 1: No, No, people weren't being honest. You know, they weren't
Speaker 1: being honest. But I knew. I knew that's what it was.
Speaker 1: I knew that's what it was. Well, please please do
Speaker 1: not forget. But the other day new he called me. Now,
Speaker 1: he called me and was like, yo, can you can
Speaker 1: you meet me at Club eleven? And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, and you said it. He knew I was
Speaker 1: lying because I'm too old there want to, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to tell him no. So I was like
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, okay. And then and then Nellie
Speaker 1: he knew it. He heard. He freezed. He's like, damn,
Speaker 1: you could just say. I was like, I'm older. Now
Speaker 1: you want him shoutut my grass yeah, so I don't
Speaker 1: go out.
Speaker 3: So I don't don't go out. No, but I feel different.
Speaker 3: Now are you different? I'm talking you're different because how
Speaker 3: people treated for the incident that happened. No, you know,
Speaker 3: can you see how these people fuckers are?
Speaker 1: No? No, I I don't have so. First of all,
Speaker 1: I didn't look at anything that anybody said, right, So,
Speaker 1: like I literally shut it down. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to know nothing that nobody saidication as all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody had five months where I didn't even look at
Speaker 1: you know, Instagram, and I was, yeah, we all need
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, you know. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I know there there's you know, like people that went hard, right,
Speaker 1: but I literally don't know. I don't know. Me and
Speaker 1: Charlie was out the other night, me and Charlie, yeah,
Speaker 1: and somebody somebody walked in that had had gone hard,
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, no, no, no, not that one.
Speaker 1: That one. I ain't gonna say nobody's name. Somebody's name.
Speaker 1: Figure it out. We're not speaking of him. We're not
Speaker 1: speaking of him, right, you know. But for me, it's
Speaker 1: like I just I knew it would poison in my heart,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I just don't want that, man,
Speaker 1: I just don't want to know what none of them
Speaker 1: niggas said. So when I see him, Hey, man, Charlie
Speaker 1: can just grab my hand. I love that. But that
Speaker 1: was all right.
Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna give you one of mine. I did
Speaker 3: an interview, our second interview with his brother. Our first
Speaker 3: interview was so beautiful. I mean, a second interview was beautiful.
Speaker 3: It had parts in there that, oh I already know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I remember we're dropping an interview.
Speaker 3: And sorry for anybody who's looking the but you know,
Speaker 3: puff Daddy called me and said, man, you sure you
Speaker 3: want to drop this? And I said, yeah, I'm an
Speaker 3: artistic I'm standing by my artistic artistic tree.
Speaker 1: I'm standing by my Japanese outpian street will boys. I
Speaker 1: regret that.
Speaker 3: He did not say I told you so. No, Hed
Speaker 3: never told me that. He never too, but he told
Speaker 3: me and we dropped this Kanye interview. The name I said,
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to say the name I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You just didn't say. But if you expressed by and
Speaker 1: f N are not necessarily will Smith that what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: She entered. It surprised me with the people that called me.
Speaker 3: The people that called me wasn't the essential people that
Speaker 3: I thought that were called like Shaq called.
Speaker 1: Me, Pharrell called me, and it was just for me.
Speaker 1: It was just like I made a mistake, and what
Speaker 1: I say, I made a mistake. I never said nothing,
Speaker 1: but I did not like that.
Speaker 3: So now I understand that that this is my responsibility
Speaker 3: if a person is on my platform, regardless of what.
Speaker 3: If will Will Smith gets on my platform and says,
Speaker 3: let's let's say Monster Energy, we got to get money
Speaker 3: with them.
Speaker 1: We get money with them. Don't talk about let's say
Speaker 1: black black black. No excuse me, brown brown little squares,
Speaker 1: there's a piece of ship. Yeah, brown little square is
Speaker 1: not only as mad as you.
Speaker 3: If they're mad at me, they thought that I edited it,
Speaker 3: They thought that that I went over it, and they
Speaker 3: thought that I deliberately said.
Speaker 1: When it's really just your views.
Speaker 3: So my question is saying that was one of my
Speaker 3: in front of the industry most downist moments, and the
Speaker 3: people who called me was people that I did not
Speaker 3: in one of your downiest moments. Was whoever one of
Speaker 3: these who was the person who called you? Who you
Speaker 3: you didn't think Floyd Mayweather.
Speaker 1: Floyd. I love Floyd. Yeah yeah, Floyd called me every
Speaker 1: day for a month after that. Oh yeah, you know
Speaker 1: I love let me. I want to back up on
Speaker 1: this a little bit because that's what you touched on
Speaker 1: a good point, all right, So you know you you
Speaker 1: get this interview if you have it and you put
Speaker 1: it out. Here's the cheat code. Yeah, So people said
Speaker 1: to me, will you sure you wanted to do drink champs? Really?
Speaker 1: Do you want? You want to? Like you say, for real,
Speaker 1: for real? Like will are you sure you want to
Speaker 1: put yourself in that position? Right? But you know right?
Speaker 1: Yeah right? We don't even know, right, So it's like, well,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna You're gonna take drinks? Right? And
Speaker 1: then who knows what the fuck you might say? Right right?
Speaker 1: And they were like, you know, Norris good at getting
Speaker 1: you to say some ship you might not right right?
Speaker 1: So so I said, oh, because I love y'all right.
Speaker 1: So I sat on it for a minute.
Speaker 3: My son, that's my first time I we mentioned the
Speaker 3: bright No no, no, that's a Nickelodeon nicolode continue right.
Speaker 1: So so but I really had to sit with that, right.
Speaker 1: So the cheat code is what's your intention? Right? So
Speaker 1: when you're in those situations, it's like, what is your intention?
Speaker 1: What was your intention in that moment? In that moment,
Speaker 1: what's your intention putting out the interview? Right? So for me,
Speaker 1: when you're ten toes down in your intention? Right. So
Speaker 1: my intention of being here with y'all is to support
Speaker 1: any good you're trying to put in the world.
Speaker 3: We want to show you our because our attention is
Speaker 3: about giving people their flowers, the smell them.
Speaker 1: They and we'll let me just tell you something.
Speaker 3: Every wrapper in this world that ever tried to act,
Speaker 3: ever wanted to go into another, we all owe you,
Speaker 3: we all owe you. We all have to take our
Speaker 3: hats off to you. You gotta rub our Beijing, and
Speaker 3: we gotta do whatever. I'm obviously not doing it, we know.
Speaker 3: But every rapp up who has ventured out you know,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean even did you know, uh what
Speaker 3: do we call it?
Speaker 1: Uh? Uh?
Speaker 3: You know other business mentions because prior to you, all
Speaker 3: rappers did was rap. And then when they didn't have
Speaker 3: them pensions in them W nine's in the one case,
Speaker 3: then they started to complain.
Speaker 1: But you gave the blueprint. You said, you know what
Speaker 1: I could rap, I could dominate rappers that can.
Speaker 3: Dominate another fail, and then I can come back and
Speaker 3: I can dominate another fail, and I gonna keep dominating
Speaker 3: another field.
Speaker 1: I keep going.
Speaker 3: I can get so bored. I could do ship that
Speaker 3: y'all don't even like it. And guess what, and then
Speaker 3: you had to TikTok phenomenon.
Speaker 1: I'll be following you on. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: fuck you be doing. I'm like, I'm like, fucking will
Speaker 1: swip through it, Like.
Speaker 3: It's just so we want you to know, like how
Speaker 3: important how much are you tip that other world?
Speaker 1: And right now we probably don't understand because the other
Speaker 1: world has just been chipped. Yeah, for sure, that's pioneering.
Speaker 1: That means that's what pioneer. That's why I said earlier.
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, yo, you know you was the
Speaker 3: first person to running grabby. I'm sure I was the
Speaker 3: first person to do reggae dong.
Speaker 1: People laughed at me. I almost had to wear a
Speaker 1: pampa because I feel like everyone's shipping on me. But
Speaker 1: guess what.
Speaker 3: You can't turn the radio without saying, but you've been
Speaker 3: trying to be spanning too, I mean, why be watching you?
Speaker 9: You're not calling you poppy letting you know, like you
Speaker 9: be having spain this girl, I'll see the left deal community.
Speaker 1: We've been contemplating on how we kicking you out well
Speaker 1: like this nigga want to be called poppy drawing the
Speaker 1: line man, you have to brew? Are we are? Girl
Speaker 1: and brew? How do you let me tell you? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's nothing like it's it's nothing like uh, Friday night
Speaker 1: in Colombia. You know, I'm telling you, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of places. It's a lot of places. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: The hole? It's beautiful. I'm like I've always I've always
Speaker 1: loved you know, Latin music and and Latin food and
Speaker 1: like the the you know, the fire of Latin women
Speaker 1: and dance and all of that.
Speaker 4: All of our Latin music comes from Africa as well. Yes,
Speaker 4: trying this for bad Boy five. That will. Let me
Speaker 4: just tell you something that we were so excited I
Speaker 4: worked out about.
Speaker 1: You're doing you know what we're doing the Rocky Steps tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah you heard. I could have I could have hit
Speaker 1: your team. Your team is so official. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I couldn't bother them, Like
Speaker 3: everybody was a fit and I couldn't download the album.
Speaker 3: I asked him about seventeen times about the album, everything, everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so efficient.
Speaker 3: But we're doing the Rocky Steps tomorrow because that's my
Speaker 3: dream to run the Rocky Step. So now it's gonna
Speaker 3: be mostly Instagram meaning I'm I'm running very.
Speaker 1: Fast, Yes, got it, and I'm gonna go up to
Speaker 1: the hill. Yeah, I'm gonna be like yo yo yo,
Speaker 1: Yeah you do that. Yeah yeah yeah. Is that how
Speaker 1: you trained for Ali? Yeah? Oh no that yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that was a good yeah. You know, my mouth was open,
Speaker 1: but you with all these real trainers, right, No, it
Speaker 1: was real. Yeah, okay, because I wasn't. I wasn't the
Speaker 1: boxing classes in South Beach, yes, and you walked in.
Speaker 4: Actually I don't know if you know the trainer was
Speaker 4: still working at that at that gym.
Speaker 1: Act as Ali. Yeah, we did. We did a real
Speaker 1: fight camp. So it was it was you know, real fighters,
Speaker 1: Michael Bent, Uh, Charles Shooter, James Tony and you know
Speaker 1: it was they wanted me to train and to you know,
Speaker 1: have a sense of the experience of what it was
Speaker 1: like to train for a real fight. So we went
Speaker 1: real real and Michael Michael Bent was like, you know,
Speaker 1: mentoring me and James Tony was the one that he
Speaker 1: no actors, So James, Tony would hit me real, James,
Speaker 1: Tony would hit me for real. Yeah, And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the act. He would screamed. He
Speaker 1: would scream, bite your mouthpiece. When he was throwing a punch,
Speaker 1: he would say, bite your mouth piece, you know, James, Yeah, James.
Speaker 1: I was like, James, seriously, come on, man, come on,
Speaker 1: I got it. I don't work with no actors. We
Speaker 1: fighters in here. You know if Jake pulled child you
Speaker 1: to a fight, would you take it? Man, I'm too
Speaker 1: old for that. Good that that joke is strong. He
Speaker 1: is he we you know, you know he made, he made.
Speaker 7: He's not.
Speaker 1: Working his way to being a professional fighter, right, but
Speaker 1: you know he was like he was a champion wrestler
Speaker 1: before he that. Yeah. Yeah, no, he's he's he's he's real.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe now on the professional level, yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know as a as a fight he can fight
Speaker 1: for real. Yeah. People an't like you can has an
Speaker 1: affinity for the.
Speaker 3: Be honest with you, not since my father's older friends,
Speaker 3: I've heard somebody use the word joker.
Speaker 1: Joker. Every time you use it, I crink.
Speaker 4: No, bring it, bring those old school joints back.
Speaker 3: If you don't know that East coast when the when
Speaker 3: the East coast say, man, that joka, that's up now.
Speaker 1: The person place and I'm looking at well and now
Speaker 1: you were using in your rhymes to it. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you use that that that's the only good I had.
Speaker 1: So joka joka is that just genera But let me
Speaker 1: just say, jokat a lot cooler ship. Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: we got so much schools. But step give me something,
Speaker 1: give me But joking, like we say, joker, this joker
Speaker 1: all the time, that joke, it must be out of
Speaker 1: his mind. But that y'all, y'all, y'all, yeah, ya, y'all, y'all, y'all,
Speaker 1: day that joint that really that jo yeah joke would
Speaker 1: just make me say, damn this grandfather to ship right
Speaker 1: here out here. It makes me makes me I don't
Speaker 1: want to accept except man, I use Beijing, I used
Speaker 1: we want y'all you used me one No, no, mine
Speaker 1: is just like this all the time. Man, Well come
Speaker 1: on a little bit. I know many my ship would
Speaker 1: probably look like that. Yeah, yeah, for sure, I'm on
Speaker 1: the verge. If you had one thing to do all
Speaker 1: over in this industry, and that's anything. What would you
Speaker 1: do one thing to do all over again? You know
Speaker 1: it's funny like once your once your past things right,
Speaker 1: there are very few. You know. There's a song on
Speaker 1: an album called Beautiful Scars, right, So what the the
Speaker 1: idea is you You don't like shit while you're going
Speaker 1: through it, right, but once you learn the lesson, you
Speaker 1: never want to give it back. Right. It's like you
Speaker 1: suffered it, you survived, you took a lesson from it.
Speaker 1: Now it's like the things that you have suffered are
Speaker 1: in your eyes when you talk to your son, right,
Speaker 1: if you ain't been there, you can't help him, right.
Speaker 1: So to me, it's like, you know, I wouldn't you
Speaker 1: know when I look back, there's like there's not things.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course there's things you know I think about,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't. I would never from this side of it,
Speaker 1: I would never give them ours back.
Speaker 3: Because you're looking at it like whatever you've been through,
Speaker 3: why you're here now, makes.
Speaker 1: You who you are? Right, It's like you you're you
Speaker 1: can't be more valuable than your suffering. And that's a
Speaker 1: really that's a hard idea you learn in this world
Speaker 1: by getting smashed. That's that's how that's the sound shot. Yes,
Speaker 1: but like most stuff sounded like a shot. Can we really?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because you're so deep, but I really want
Speaker 1: to open up. Will Smith therapy. No, no, I'll be
Speaker 1: a therapist too. Yes, you're gonna be the therapist. I
Speaker 1: can't be. No. I don't know. Man, you gotta get
Speaker 1: trained something. You might just throw the problem. That's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, somebody like struggling with. Somebody thought something that
Speaker 1: they struggling. You know you you got something, nobody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, step up, cut, come on, come on, come on,
Speaker 1: take up. We've seen real struggle. We've seen it. My
Speaker 1: chicken nuggets weren't that good. Let's go cut dude, you
Speaker 1: gotta stave you step back like shark take Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you me your therapy already. Somebody I'm like up
Speaker 10: with a problem. He's like you back up, back up.
Speaker 10: It's like yo, and you got to make sure you
Speaker 10: you ready for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on the way here on the right head.
Speaker 1: I lost a friend that I spoke to him Sunday. Damn.
Speaker 1: Sorry to hear that. Man.
Speaker 7: The last three months I lost five people. Food as
Speaker 7: you get older was closing and you get to look
Speaker 7: around like, damn, friend, how do you deal with that
Speaker 7: older me?
Speaker 1: So you have more exprience. Absolutely, so he got deep.
Speaker 1: I was already a grand grand clothes like anoy, your.
Speaker 10: Celebrity ran open the grand clothing, go to the OUs
Speaker 10: of Joan.
Speaker 1: What we'll say. Yes. So it's funny because I talked
Speaker 1: to Quincy Jones about this, uh you know, he said
Speaker 1: that exact same thing, probably eighteen months ago. I was
Speaker 1: talking to him and he was like, man, I've been
Speaker 1: a funeral every week, you know, and you just you know,
Speaker 1: you just get to that point where that's what it is,
Speaker 1: you know. And he was like, I'm the last one,
Speaker 1: you know. And so part of the idea so death,
Speaker 1: everybody in here is going to die, and before that
Speaker 1: we're going to experience a series of our loved ones
Speaker 1: at the party. Right. So, reconciling death is the highest
Speaker 1: human difficulty as soon as you can be with So
Speaker 1: for example, my sister was with my father in the
Speaker 1: room in the moment that he died. My sister did
Speaker 1: the makeup on my grandmother in the in the casket, right.
Speaker 1: So but because of that, she's gangster, right, she can
Speaker 1: be with life and all that it has to offer. Right,
Speaker 1: So I would say to you, don't shy away from
Speaker 1: their families, go sit with them, like look with them,
Speaker 1: Like be with what that loss actually means inside of
Speaker 1: a human heart. Like be with it, and you you
Speaker 1: will break your heart in that. I used to do
Speaker 1: the Make a Wish Foundation and would be dying children
Speaker 1: who their last wishes they wanted to see me. It's crazy,
Speaker 1: right to like be to be with death is the
Speaker 1: final human reconcile when you can sit and look and
Speaker 1: you know, I was just I was actually I was
Speaker 1: talking to Gilly, right, and I had to I made
Speaker 1: a confession to to Gilly the other day. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: when your son died. God bless. I've reached for my
Speaker 1: phone multiple times and I didn't have the courage to
Speaker 1: call you. Right. It's like death is the hardest there is,
Speaker 1: Like don't run stand it, Like be with the people
Speaker 1: that are hurting, Be with the people who are suffering.
Speaker 1: There's you can't fix it. Just be able to be
Speaker 1: with people in that level of pain, right, and it's
Speaker 1: all you can do. It's like we're not we're not
Speaker 1: in charge of that part. But what we can do
Speaker 1: is love each other through it. That's all we can
Speaker 1: do is be with each other.
Speaker 3: I'll be something because no, no, I say something because again,
Speaker 3: like I witness you downstairs. I see you get out
Speaker 3: of the car, and I've seen the security god, the
Speaker 3: same security god that said hi to me, she said
Speaker 3: hi to you, and you just you just stood there
Speaker 3: and you just open your arms and you just accept
Speaker 3: what life brings you.
Speaker 1: I'm also jealous of that.
Speaker 3: It's because, like I automatically, if someone says up to me,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't. I don't immediately put you broke
Speaker 3: your hug.
Speaker 1: Excuse me?
Speaker 3: You bring your arms out for a hug, And I
Speaker 3: was like, what the fuck? And I can't think like
Speaker 3: that sometimes, like especially if I'm in the far in place.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously it's not a foreign place to you.
Speaker 3: But when I jump out and the person says to me, yo,
Speaker 3: what's up, I'm like, what's up. It's like even when
Speaker 3: I jog, like if a person's able up, you got
Speaker 3: to like actually get me out, And I'm like, what up?
Speaker 1: Yo? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: But you or the accolades or the places you've been,
Speaker 3: as soon as you jump off the car like and
Speaker 3: I do this like for the past nine years. I
Speaker 3: analyze everybody as they get as a car, analyze who
Speaker 3: they talk to, are analyze if they speak to the
Speaker 3: regular individuals, they speak to the orf they want to
Speaker 3: want to come in and get this interview over and done.
Speaker 3: Because we're not a emotional people. We don't we don't
Speaker 3: care about interviewing people when they We care about interviewing
Speaker 3: legends and icons and making sure they iconic legendary Statugyes continues,
Speaker 3: continues and continues to grow.
Speaker 1: But something that was so genuine about you is when
Speaker 1: you jumped up the car you see me, I saw you.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, this nigga.
Speaker 3: He looked like the wild wild West right now, it's crazy,
Speaker 3: it's crazy, Like this nigga is real.
Speaker 1: It's real.
Speaker 3: And then and then the security guard said, I will
Speaker 3: and she had just did the same exact thing to me,
Speaker 3: and we spoke and you know, I gave her a hug,
Speaker 3: but your hug was way more genuine in minds, right,
Speaker 3: He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, it was
Speaker 3: real because I was just like, all right, cool, this
Speaker 3: is this lady I gotta talk to to get upstairs
Speaker 3: and maybe I should.
Speaker 1: So I did, and I did it.
Speaker 3: But your hug was like, Okay, I ain't see you
Speaker 3: in a while. And I was like, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you said you see you in a while. Your
Speaker 3: hug said, yeah, you didn't see you in a while.
Speaker 3: And then I recollect to what you said to us,
Speaker 3: Welcome to Philly. Yeah, yeah, that's not normal, Ship. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's some.
Speaker 7: It's it is.
Speaker 1: It's new for me.
Speaker 3: I've always been I'm letting y'all know for twenty five
Speaker 3: years we need this is yea brother.
Speaker 1: I told brotherly Love this morning. I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is waw Ship talking about fucking will Smith his brother
Speaker 1: loved twenty five years. Yeah, my bad man. But so
Speaker 1: so what I thought, you know is, you know I
Speaker 1: saw y'all you know, so you know, I greeted everybody,
Speaker 1: and I saw her off on the side of the
Speaker 1: security guard was like, oh, you know, because Honda, they
Speaker 1: they know each other, they're doing the things. She didn't
Speaker 1: want to, like impose. So I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you safe here, sister, come on in. So I was
Speaker 1: like I wanted her. I could tell it's the end
Speaker 1: of her work day, workshift, she's going home. So in
Speaker 1: my mind I saw her go like that to me
Speaker 1: is the highest she like she saw. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to fan the flames of that energy.
Speaker 3: You know how hard that is to understand human behavior.
Speaker 3: And within that fifteen seconds. Back in the days, we
Speaker 3: could sit there and you could be like, I know
Speaker 3: this guy, and somebody's gonna say, Yo, that's rainbows from
Speaker 3: South Bronx. He's such such so you can actually, but
Speaker 3: now we have fifteen seconds set to see if this
Speaker 3: person is worthy of our time or not. But you
Speaker 3: did it in fucking three well, because everybody's worthy of money, right,
Speaker 3: He wasn't judging it. Yeah, way like there's nobody who's
Speaker 3: not worthy of my time. That is some niggas ain't
Speaker 3: worried my time. You're a much better person than me.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. You know who you are. Some
Speaker 1: of you skip your call or purpose. I see you.
Speaker 1: This is me. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Let me take
Speaker 1: a shot. That's hilarious, man.
Speaker 3: But everybody's worth for your time. That's such a beautiful thing, man,
Speaker 3: I promise you. I'm going to try to live, but
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna live like I'm not gonna sit here.
Speaker 1: And lie to you, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going I'm going to try my best to
Speaker 1: really feel like everyone is my time because there's certain
Speaker 1: people that like that call me, ask me, are you
Speaker 1: having another monster energy event? That's who you don't follow
Speaker 1: me on Instagram? Like why are you asking me this
Speaker 1: crazy thing?
Speaker 3: But you you think that everybody not everyone. Most people
Speaker 3: like when you go to target, you speak to people
Speaker 3: you're not going to target.
Speaker 1: So so first of all, if you don't know who
Speaker 1: the person is, you can't really how would you know
Speaker 1: they're not worth your time? You can't judge that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't know. And then if you're gonna mess around,
Speaker 1: benefit to look at somebody based on how they dressed
Speaker 1: or something like that, you know, and you know, so
Speaker 1: part of so, part of the revelation that I've had
Speaker 1: in these past couple of years is everything is God right,
Speaker 1: So everything is one thing right. So the idea of
Speaker 1: something being higher and lower, something being good and bad,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a false perception of reality, right, that's
Speaker 1: not that's not a real because you can't you can't
Speaker 1: know what something's going to lead to so even something
Speaker 1: you don't want, even something you don't like, just because
Speaker 1: you don't like it doesn't make it wrong, and just
Speaker 1: because you like it doesn't make it right. Right, So
Speaker 1: you you actually you can't know, You literally can't know
Speaker 1: what the future is. You can't know if we're gonna
Speaker 1: go downstairs after that and you're gonna be lunching and
Speaker 1: walk out in the street and that girl grabs you.
Speaker 1: Better not be my wife right there, right right, you know.
Speaker 1: But it's like like, you know, don't give me no,
Speaker 1: no no. If my wife there and I'm walking down
Speaker 1: the street, that girl need to let me get hit
Speaker 1: and put your hands on me later, you know. But
Speaker 1: you can't you we don't. You don't know what's gonna happen, right,
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't know what when you're gonna cross
Speaker 1: somebody's path again or something. My grandmother said something to
Speaker 1: me when we first got on the tour bus for me,
Speaker 1: Jeff Willie, this is your first tour, first tour period, yes,
Speaker 1: like you know, nineteen eighty eight or something like that,
Speaker 1: first time getting on a tour bus and my grandmother
Speaker 1: said we're getting on, said bye, baby, she said she says, okay, baby,
Speaker 1: just remember everywhere you go. One day you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to go there again. This is a grandmother that was
Speaker 1: sitting next to you during the on the now that
Speaker 1: was my mother. That was my mother. Yeah, my grandma,
Speaker 1: my grandmother, she passed. Let the grandmother that found the
Speaker 1: curse curse work. I found that. That's why you don't
Speaker 1: really curse that. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, you let other
Speaker 1: people curse on this out. No. Yeah, you think that
Speaker 1: you ain't curse, but you let the nigga. Okay, he's smart.
Speaker 1: A cursing character characters another person acting, so it's different.
Speaker 1: I gotta learn this acting shit. Yeah, that's my goal.
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm going to Will Smith act in class,
Speaker 3: going to Will's. If there are people me and you
Speaker 3: are a partner, Will will send yes, Will Smith network,
Speaker 3: but it's really don't let nobody know that, yes, your partner,
Speaker 3: sil secrecy. Will Let me just tell you something, man,
Speaker 3: I really respect you.
Speaker 1: I really.
Speaker 3: Once you understand that you laid the blueprint for every
Speaker 3: rapper who wanted to be something more than a rapper,
Speaker 3: because rapper was the quintessential level to where we wanted
Speaker 3: to get at At one point let me take off
Speaker 3: my glass to like a Macaolmax.
Speaker 1: But then you hugged Uncle Phil, and then you you
Speaker 1: brung gangsters.
Speaker 3: Regular people, street people, people who pack bags and wall bounds,
Speaker 3: people who deliver food for six brothers. You bring them
Speaker 3: all together because everyone had that little missing part of
Speaker 3: their heart, whether they had a father or they didn't
Speaker 3: have a father, they had something that was missing in
Speaker 3: their heart. They did that. Then you went on and
Speaker 3: then you conker. One of my favorite movies the all
Speaker 3: time is Enemy of the State. You know what Enemy
Speaker 3: of the stated? You remember that?
Speaker 1: I remember that one. That one I was there, look
Speaker 1: at me, look like because because I asked you earlier, what.
Speaker 3: Was your most serious role? And to me it was
Speaker 3: Independence Day? You and vivocat together. That that was That
Speaker 3: was too like the black actors. They put you all
Speaker 3: together and independent that Yeah, that was crazy. July fourth
Speaker 3: was different. Yes, big, okay, that's what it was.
Speaker 1: I was I'm like, year was that ninety six? That
Speaker 1: I can explain? It's cooled d what jail? Yes, you
Speaker 1: can explain. Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: Now listen told you bouncing around? Yes, now I realized
Speaker 3: that you and Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan is out of line, out of line, out of line,
Speaker 1: out of line. He's going to explain in a second, everybody,
Speaker 1: and I am legend died. How the fun is the
Speaker 1: part too? All right, coach? So hold on, by the way,
Speaker 1: I want to I can explain to a war or something,
Speaker 1: all right. So there was there was a there was
Speaker 1: an alternate ending that came out on the d v D.
Speaker 1: I got ye in the alternate ending, my character Liz. Listen,
Speaker 1: ye seating right now, but I respect it. Listen. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and I hadn't bring this. I wanted you to say this.
Speaker 1: Oh I believe you with that. No, you can't have it.
Speaker 1: You can't have it, but I just want you to
Speaker 1: because about it. Take a picture, well, let's take the
Speaker 1: figure with I want one bulf Okay, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: don't want to do that, but get yeah, so I
Speaker 1: am letting you yeah, no, no, no, you see how
Speaker 1: he was with this, yeah.
Speaker 3: Case listen when when e f N he has like
Speaker 3: little takes yeah right here yea. By the way, if
Speaker 3: you touch his take, even though this is your tape,
Speaker 3: it's my it's your music, get pause. That's it too much.
Speaker 3: Watch watch how you.
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw away into your wills.
Speaker 3: Okay, So she was throwing that like this, and he's
Speaker 3: talking like this. It feels like, calm down, guy, But
Speaker 3: I am lesgend. I'm gonna be honest with us. I
Speaker 3: watched all your movies bad boys every day. I did
Speaker 3: watch that alternate ending. Yeah, but I also realized I
Speaker 3: was making up a bag like let's get another bad No. No,
Speaker 3: you misread it, you miss read It's me. Let me
Speaker 3: tell you, let me tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: Let's go. So, here's the truth of what happened, all right,
Speaker 1: the ultimate see what had happened was what happened. So
Speaker 1: the alternate ending was the first ending, the original It
Speaker 1: was the original ending, was the original script, and it
Speaker 1: was based on the original novel. We tested it and
Speaker 1: it was the only movie I've ever had that the
Speaker 1: audience booed at the end, at the end of that
Speaker 1: ending when the so in the in the final scene
Speaker 1: where they come in and there around me and the
Speaker 1: alternate ending and the the Dark Seeker, what we realized
Speaker 1: and the alternate ending is that he realizes the one
Speaker 1: that I was keeping in the room was his woman.
Speaker 1: And I realized it was his woman, and he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, the meaning of the ending was, oh shit,
Speaker 1: I'm the monster. They think of me as the monster, right,
Speaker 1: And we looked up at the wall and we do
Speaker 1: the shot up at the wall, and you see how
Speaker 1: many of them I killed? And he looks at them
Speaker 1: and looks at them, and he looks at me and
Speaker 1: then he goes in and gets his woman and leaves. Right.
Speaker 1: So that was the alternate ending. We tested it and
Speaker 1: the only so how they do these things is they
Speaker 1: put it in front of an audience. You know, you
Speaker 1: get a couple hundred people. They fill it out, and
Speaker 1: you fill out you know, there's five boxes and you
Speaker 1: say either excellent, very good, good, poor, very poor. And
Speaker 1: what they do is they take the top two boxes
Speaker 1: and if you score, you know, ninety percent in the
Speaker 1: top two boxes excellent and very good, you're pretty sure
Speaker 1: you have a good movie. It was the lowest scoring
Speaker 1: movie I've ever ending. So they score the whole movie,
Speaker 1: but it was because of the ending ending, okay, and
Speaker 1: it scored fifty one in the top two boxes, and
Speaker 1: we were like what So then then they fill out
Speaker 1: the thing and it was like basically across the board,
Speaker 1: it was like the ending is bullshit, that's bullshit. He's
Speaker 1: not the monster. They're dark seekers. They've been chasing them,
Speaker 1: and there was something that was just horrific except they could.
Speaker 1: They was like, no, you're not the monster. We didn't
Speaker 1: watch this whole movie to figure out that you're the monster. No,
Speaker 1: they're the monsters. So they felt cheated. So six weeks
Speaker 1: before the movie comes out, we had to reshoot the
Speaker 1: ending that was actually in the movies where my character died.
Speaker 1: That's in New York City where you wasn't here. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: so where where my character dies in the end actually
Speaker 1: is the alternate ending, right, So it's the it's the
Speaker 1: alternate ending. But we we were faithful to the novel
Speaker 1: in the in the previous ones. So when we did
Speaker 1: the new ending, it scored ninety one in the top
Speaker 1: two boxes, and it was like, it's just one of
Speaker 1: them weird things that happens. It was like, how much
Speaker 1: does that say about us? As I know? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Humor yet watching that No, but it was it was,
Speaker 1: it was It was like a major save. We saved
Speaker 1: it because people, the audiences hated it, right, but it
Speaker 1: was what we originally wanted to do. So we were like, well,
Speaker 1: we we shot. You know, it was probably an eight
Speaker 1: million dollar ending that got scrapped. Wow, right, because we
Speaker 1: were special effects and all of that stuff in it.
Speaker 1: So well, so we ultimately we were like, well, we
Speaker 1: got to use it. We got to use it somewhere.
Speaker 1: So we put it on the DVD, on the DVD
Speaker 1: and Blu ray, so people saw it, so it popped
Speaker 1: up online and all of that. And then later the
Speaker 1: writer Akiva Goldsman, he's the Academy Award winning writer of
Speaker 1: a Beautiful Mind, and so he's like, hey, what if
Speaker 1: we made another one? What we were going to do
Speaker 1: is the prequel, So we were going to do the prequel.
Speaker 1: What happened before, So we were going to go back
Speaker 1: and do the prequel. And he was like, but wait,
Speaker 1: what if we make a new version from the alternate
Speaker 1: ending where your character is still alive? And you know,
Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan's character currently is the head of a
Speaker 1: new settlement. So he's not your son, he's not my son,
Speaker 1: not my son, not my son, my dark seeker son.
Speaker 1: Well he's an evil right.
Speaker 3: But no, so uh well, no, I can't tell you
Speaker 3: to movie, give me like a long nobody watching this ship. Yeah,
Speaker 3: right right now. Just want to people that I am
Speaker 3: legend fans like me and I love the fact that
Speaker 3: we're doing the number two.
Speaker 1: But he said we we do, we do. I love
Speaker 1: to be doing another one. Will you know? You said
Speaker 1: we you know? We we do? We knew well, but
Speaker 1: I love the fact that you do.
Speaker 3: But I wanted it so so for people that's fast
Speaker 3: like me, make it makes sense for them. Tell them
Speaker 3: that you we got we had d N A left over.
Speaker 3: Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan is coming out DNA left off just making up ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought you you established that.
Speaker 3: But that's that there's not d NA. How does Michael B.
Speaker 3: Jordan come to assistance? Does a dog eat him?
Speaker 1: No? No, the dog there's a dog practically, I'm so
Speaker 1: when he was jogging and I am like other people. Adult,
Speaker 1: You're not doing a good job selling this movie right now.
Speaker 1: I'm not telling Michael George's movie. No, this is your
Speaker 1: new social media get him over here. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's really it's a it's a it's a cool concept.
Speaker 1: So uh or currently Michael Be's uh character is the
Speaker 1: head of a settlement.
Speaker 3: So there's a settlement in Connecticut. Right I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: honest will is the settlement is no judges. There's no
Speaker 3: nobody in the pregnant.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna you're not gonna watch it, or you're
Speaker 1: just gonna watch everybody dead. Everybody's not dead your life.
Speaker 1: So there's other people. You saw the girl and the
Speaker 1: little boy. Take it to the shot, last last shot.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get your flowers. We get you up there.
Speaker 1: You think you will, I know you got you. We
Speaker 1: go us. There's slow time of life. Thank you man, Hey,
Speaker 1: listen man, thank you man. This was fantastic.
Speaker 3: Please have listen man, come have form with us anytime you.
Speaker 1: You own Miami, Miami, Please please in Miami for sure.
Speaker 1: You know that's my town. Yeah, come by hang out.
Speaker 3: It was beautiful for us to come hang out with
Speaker 3: you Andiladelphia, because one Philadelphia is a town I couldn't
Speaker 3: as soon as as soon as I landed, I thought
Speaker 3: of trading places immediately and I couldn't realize why. And
Speaker 3: I realized that actually trading places happened here. But let
Speaker 3: me get back to the point. Well, because of my
Speaker 3: man Lex man, you know what I mean, big up
Speaker 3: to your whole team being so I mean, they were
Speaker 3: so official, so efficient.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm making sense, but get it.
Speaker 3: And they were so great, and I just want to
Speaker 3: thank you so much because so many great people like
Speaker 3: you have a terrible team, and then so many people
Speaker 3: have a great team and then they're terrible people.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you actually got some shit worked out.
Speaker 3: Like I mean, for nine years of me dealing with
Speaker 3: every artist from fifty said to you, name him, I
Speaker 3: don't want to keep name dropping. I'm telling you this
Speaker 3: is purely a pleasure for me. Your album is fucking awesome.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to say this, but I was listening to
Speaker 3: it like there's no way he could still be this hungry.
Speaker 3: So I was actually listening to it for a flaw
Speaker 3: and I didn't fly in one. And the thing about
Speaker 3: it is, I want to salute you for that. I
Speaker 3: want you to know that you appreciate it. I want
Speaker 3: you to know everything that you did because in a
Speaker 3: certain way, had you not rapped and went to Sitcom,
Speaker 3: from sitcom to movies and then dominated all these worlds,
Speaker 3: we wouldn't have had that from us. He's a DJ, me,
Speaker 3: a rapper, us to go to podcast, so in a
Speaker 3: lot of ways. You might own Drink Chances, but we
Speaker 3: could do a deal for Old Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: You know your part of it. We thank you, man.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you man for taking your time out. And
Speaker 3: I just want to say something before this is all up.
Speaker 3: He didn't ask me to say this, lexing next me
Speaker 3: say this. No one asked me to say this. This
Speaker 3: might be one of his best albums.
Speaker 1: I love that. No what do y'all say? I'm not glazing.
Speaker 1: No cat, no cat, no, no can't no blazer listens.
Speaker 3: Listen to that ship and I'm gonna tell you this
Speaker 3: just in case. And by the way, he did not
Speaker 3: tell me this. Listen to the first two tracks.
Speaker 1: If you're not.
Speaker 3: Intrigued, adapted, and want to continue for the first two traps.
Speaker 3: First two tracks, excuse me, You're not human.
Speaker 1: That's it, and you can be an I am legends.
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