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Speaker 1: It is drinks Chests, motherfucking podcasts.

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Speaker 2: He's a legendary queens rapper.

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Speaker 1: He ain't agreed as your boy in o r E.

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Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer put up as d

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Speaker 2: j e f N. Together they drink it up with

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Speaker 2: some of the biggest players you know me and the

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Speaker 2: most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk.

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Speaker 1: Drink chans mock post every days New Year set It's

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Speaker 1: time for drink Champs. Drink up? Father? Would it go

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Speaker 1: Ben to see? This is your boy in r E

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Speaker 1: was going on as dj e f N. It is

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Speaker 1: mid Save Me Crazy World podcast. Make some Now.

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Speaker 3: When we started the show, we said that there wasn't

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Speaker 3: an outlet for people who has been seasoned in this game,

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Speaker 3: for people who have been ten years or more with

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Speaker 3: the person that we're about to introduce. The person that

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Speaker 3: we're talking about. Not only is he season he's making

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Speaker 1: He has dominated every world for when you talk about

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Speaker 1: with your parents not understanding, to sitcoms to movies, to

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Speaker 1: dominating goddamn gumming on a goddamn plane. Preach this, motherfucking

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Speaker 1: don't gear. He is the potential when you think of

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Speaker 1: black excellence. When you think of a person who came

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Speaker 1: from the hood and made it somewhere and kept going.

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Speaker 1: This is the fucking picture you should see in the

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Speaker 1: dictionary for not just black people, for ally more throughout

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Speaker 1: the world, for people who made it from the bottle

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Speaker 1: and really, really, really made it to the top.

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Speaker 3: This man has dominated so many feels. We are proud

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Speaker 3: of him. We are happy to have him on the show.

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Speaker 3: In case you don't know what we're talking about, we're.

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Speaker 1: Talking about I'm about to say, fresh Prince. That's That's

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Speaker 1: where I'm going with you. Yes, we take it, Anna say,

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Speaker 1: but you can't forget we're in Philly. Philly, by the way,

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Speaker 1: let me just tell you something.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you, and I know some

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Speaker 3: people from Philly gonna question this.

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Speaker 1: This this is what I'm about to say. Well, just

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Speaker 1: be careful because you still yeah I am. You don't

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Speaker 1: know what about to say I am Because, first of

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Speaker 1: Philly is my.

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Speaker 3: Number one market from me being from New York and

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Speaker 3: even in drink Champs, I believe it's always been on

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Speaker 3: top five mark. But this is the first time ever

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Speaker 3: I flew to Philly and I've seen clear blue Water.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, did Will Smith by.

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Speaker 1: Mother? A? I phil Blue Water? Like, I mean, come,

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Speaker 1: I'm coming from Miami coming. I was like, did you

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Speaker 1: We hit this swit. We hit the switch when when

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Speaker 1: luminaries coming, you got a street named after you? Congratulations? Man.

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Speaker 3: See, are people not only when they get a street

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Speaker 3: after like they reached their glory days.

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Speaker 1: And it's like kind of like when they reached it,

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Speaker 1: like you're on top for sure, you're not dead, You're

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Speaker 1: not that you're well alive. A couple of days last year,

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Speaker 1: I wish I was, so, how does this happen? May

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Speaker 1: I calls you and what do they say? So, you know,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Max, Charlie, that's my dude, and you know he's

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Speaker 1: there and the mayor presents it, you know, and it

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Speaker 1: was like and it's called will Smith Way, right, and

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Speaker 1: the will Smith Way? That was? That was so do

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Speaker 1: you think that? Do you think your your neighborhood will

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Speaker 1: we ended that's right. We only only elevated. We only

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Speaker 1: I'm a bounce around a little bit. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: a drink. Drink what they got what they put in here? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know some will smips. I'm just letting you know.

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Speaker 1: I was like I would say, you know, I to

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Speaker 1: We're gonna phrase that I'm gonna be let's yeah, it ain't.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be no good one. Drink. Okay, we have

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Speaker 1: a beautiful Philly bartender here, So would you like to

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Speaker 5: Drink?

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Speaker 1: Okay, keep it real. What's your name, Amanda? How you doing? Man?

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Speaker 1: Just so so we go, okay, all right, boom, we're

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Speaker 3: It might be my opinion, but I believe everyone else

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Speaker 3: and in here is probably gonna say the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Bad Boys franchise might be the best franchise in movie history.

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Speaker 1: Mmm. Okay, I'll take that. I'll take that. That's definitely

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Speaker 1: your opinion. You know some people go disagree, Well, name

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Speaker 3: Fishes and ship if y'all was throwing fish and somebody

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Speaker 3: you know, like, yeah, we we have that.

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Speaker 1: Well we're gonna add some fish next time, be up

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Speaker 1: there with the Godfather. But okay, it's hard to do

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Speaker 1: what we did in Bad Boys. The one thing I'm

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Speaker 1: That's that's hard to do. That's hard to do it.

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Speaker 1: That's how I realized how dope it was. And I

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Speaker 1: So on on on Bad Boys three, calid. You know,

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Speaker 1: So he was. I was like, yo, so listen, like

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Speaker 1: in the in the parking lot, coming into work, I was, Yo, Cali,

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Speaker 3: Odd Legacies are one of the first records on the album.

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Speaker 3: By the way, you was starting on the album, Yo.

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Speaker 1: on the track, Jeff play one and be some mom.

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Speaker 1: Intro right into the track, like Abby Dabby, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you. We're standing the burn the forest,

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Speaker 1: One bottle of water. This one bottle of water to

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Speaker 3: But that's a very seldom thing in this industry, right

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Speaker 1: But you see these guys, they last a year or two.

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Speaker 3: They can't stick with the manager, they can't stick with

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Speaker 1: But then you don't.

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Speaker 3: You don't have them just one. You have this Martin Lawrence,

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Speaker 3: the same thing. And then I've read somewhere or heard

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Speaker 3: somewhere where Martin Lawrence didn't even want you in Bad Boys.

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Speaker 1: No, No, it was the other way. The studio didn't

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Speaker 1: want me. Martin had the script. Oh wow. Right, so

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Speaker 1: the studio didn't want me, and Martin said he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: So Martin wanted he had the script, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, right, Well, his sister was, I really think

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Speaker 1: like both of us were we were successful on TV,

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Speaker 1: but we weren't Eddie, right, So they wanted to do

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Speaker 1: He was like, no, it has to be well we weren't.

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Speaker 1: We met. He called me to come to his house

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Speaker 3: Time with Slim right where we take you ask questions

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Speaker 1: No, you gotta tell them. You telling these rules. And

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: And this is a very important one.

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Speaker 3: Remember this or that, this or that said neither.

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Speaker 1: times have you been to ask that question? Oh my god? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know it is. It was one of the most

428
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Speaker 1: like difficult times in my life.

429
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Speaker 3: Right, you know, because you don't understand it's a job

430
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: you have a relationship with.

431
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you know what on on those kind

432
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: of sets you take on the relationships of your character.

433
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: It's like your set parents. Yeah, right, so it's like

434
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: it's real, that's real relationships. You go. You know, it's like,

435
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, this is your first relationship. Yeah, and it's

436
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: like that that that that loss, that that's I'm not

437
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: a man that's prone to too much regret, you know,

438
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: because I believe things happen, and they you know, if

439
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: you're if you're happy today, you gotta you know, accept

440
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: that it's because of the things that went right and wrong.

441
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 1: And you know, but that that was that was a

442
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, Janet and I are magnificent uh friends now,

443
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: but that that was a very very very hard time

444
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: for me. And it was like, I didn't see you,

445
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: said Jenny aunt Janet. First, I don't want people don't

446
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: like I'm just talking about crazy. Yeah, the first hand

447
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: of Janet, Janet Hubert written, she was she she's magnificent, right,

448
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: and you know, my young arrogant eyes couldn't see that,

449
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: you know. And it's like just the depth and the

450
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: power that she she brought to the show. I just

451
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: I was I was missing it. I just I couldn't,

452
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: you know. When I look back, it's it's like it's

453
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: really you know, it was obvious what she was bringing. Uh.

454
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: But Daphne, you know, Maxwell Reid, you know, cultivated a

455
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: beautiful relationship you know with her, But it was a

456
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: really Janet is a special kind of you know, beautiful

457
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: talented power were full. You know, she was she was

458
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: holding it down and I certainly wasn't wasn't seeing how

459
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: powerful and important she was to the show.

460
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 3: Now it's always these rumors that Michael Jackson is like

461
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: a gangster on the side, right, is content Ban's gang

462
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: banging on?

463
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean no, no, let me tell you that is

464
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: one of the most committed comedic actors I have ever met.

465
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: But nobody commits like he commit when he listened when

466
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: he goes part of one of the you know, I've

467
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: really learned my comedic acting on the set of The

468
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: Fresh Prince of bel Air. And the thing that Alfonso

469
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: does is like, even when he doesn't like something, you know,

470
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 1: he always gives it one hundred percent. His thing was like,

471
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: let the writers see if you if you tanked the

472
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: joke and you don't give it all, they're gonna think

473
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: that it didn't work because you sabotage it. And he

474
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: really taught me a you like, you know with that

475
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: Carlton dances stuff like when he goes, he goes, and

476
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: it's like you you can feel, uh, the power and

477
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: the fun of his commitment. It's funny because he commits

478
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: so hard to to the joke. Yeah, he's he's a

479
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: he's a unique breed. Okay, I'm gonna take another shot

480
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: you because I got you just gonna take a shelt.

481
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: I got a Chris question. You got to question this

482
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: for me? Shot look like rules.

483
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: Okay, let me just say, Philly, yeah, you take a

484
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: shot before.

485
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: They hold on hold. You know what I'm gonna I'm

486
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: gonna go to the next one. You know what you're correct? Yeah,

487
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: rapping or acting? Rapping? Man. So here's the thing I

488
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: think I am. I'm more naturally an actor, really right.

489
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: I think that the what my mind most naturally falls

490
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: into it as far as entertainment. I saw you reached

491
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: for it and then you pull back.

492
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 6: You can.

493
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: You just want to drink? He was breaking it down

494
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: so good. I was like, really came out of me,

495
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: by the way, Yes, it has such.

496
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 6: A beautiful soul, my god, like another one what you said?

497
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: So I'm more naturally an actor, right, but my love

498
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: is hip hop right, And it's like, you know, acting

499
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: is when it comes out of me like I can

500
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: when I can go into a character, like I can

501
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: transform my mind and my eyes when I look at

502
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: somebody and fall into a character. It's like really it's

503
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: natural for me yo. And it's it's like it's like

504
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: moving moving your energy and attention around in your inside

505
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: your body, right, so I can like fall into you know,

506
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: what did that motherfucker say? I hear your brother say

507
00:31:54,440 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: it again? I just don't wire right now? Right, So

508
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: that like, and I've always been able to do that,

509
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: to like see something and mimic a character. So I've

510
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: always been able to u mimic it, and as I

511
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: got older, I could like fall into the emotion of

512
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: it where it changes the look on your face, it

513
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: changes your it changes your eyes, it changes your body

514
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: language and just you know, so I've always been able

515
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: to do that naturally you.

516
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 4: Learned that with time or you did you ever have

517
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: to take classes?

518
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: So I never so I naturally could mimic, right, So

519
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: I would look at how somebody walked, or I would

520
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: listen to somebody's voice, and I could I could copy.

521
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: And then as I got older, like copying is shallow, right,

522
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: but then where does the emotion come from? And being

523
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: able to find the deeper and deeper place and layers

524
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: as I got to know myself better. Actors call it

525
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: a toolbox where you have a toolbox where like so

526
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: for example that the fresh scene, fresh print scene, you

527
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: were talking about the father scene. I use the father

528
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 1: scene to find sadness, so I'll use that for you know,

529
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: for King Richard. For example, there was the scene with

530
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: about Venus Serena. Yeah, for that. There was a scene

531
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: where at the at the net with Venus before he

532
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: lets her go and play. I watched the fresh Print

533
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: scene before that. It's a prep right, so I prepped

534
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: to like get you watch yourself to prep for yourself. Yes,

535
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: I respect that. So but the music, there is nothing

536
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: like being on stage and fifty thousand people here drums please,

537
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like that moment when people realize

538
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: you about to do the song they've been waiting for.

539
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: That's the top of entertainment. That is the top when

540
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: they hear the first couple clicks up the record, that's

541
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: the one they wanted to hear. There's nothing there's nothing

542
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: like that in entertainment. So that's that's my It's my

543
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: my love versus what I'm actually best at.

544
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: But you know, the but you was dope about you

545
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 4: that I've noticed throughout your career, no matter how Hollywood

546
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 4: you went, and you were always hip hop.

547
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: And infusing men in black when you brungs And then

548
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: I was watching that the scene today and it was

549
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: like y'all didn't even talk.

550
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: And I'm like I remember actually being in a movie

551
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: theater and god bless me white people, but they didn't

552
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: know what.

553
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: The communication was. They were just like they going, that

554
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: was alien to I wonder if you'll start a popcorn

555
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, But you always keep

556
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: how did you? How do you do that? Likew What

557
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: it is is the it's the it's the thing that's

558
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: unique about what I bring. Right. So it's like you know,

559
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: being being born and raised in Philly and in hip hop,

560
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: it's the it's the thing that's uniquely me right at

561
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: your core, at my core. So when I bring that,

562
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, ninety percent of the character can be comprehensible

563
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: to you know, general audiences, but then you add that

564
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: little sauce that is the unique special sauce. So for

565
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: me in terms of hip hop, like you'll never see

566
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: in any movie ever where they beat box as an

567
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: alien language, right, Like that's like I love that. It's

568
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: like only I can do that, right, you know, Like

569
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: I said, I was so mad at the movie people

570
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: didn't get it. I was like, yet, my god, yeah

571
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: that but even to call Biz to do it right,

572
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: to know that I want Biz to do that piece,

573
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: you know, And it's like a R P B is

574
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: r B. Yeah, God, damn, I have to look you

575
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: get all right? All right?

576
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: The first one, now hold on, let me I got this.

577
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: Another one is also off the off off the menu

578
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: of off the menu, Jay z or Nas.

579
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: Think about it. They got you, both of them got

580
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: your number. That's important. Damn. That's a hard one too.

581
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: That's how I want to who's more petty? No, I

582
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: have more more. I have more of an interaction with

583
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: with with Jay z uh But I think I think

584
00:36:54,560 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: that for I'm I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go Nas

585
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: on that one. I'm gonna go Nas, I'm gonna go. No,

586
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: just took us here, they said, no, yeah, yeah, No.

587
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean I have more of a relationship with with

588
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: with Jay, but I think not Nas has made me

589
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: study rapping more. Like when I hear Nas, I'm like, damn,

590
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm way off the fucking bark, mark, I got I

591
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: gotta get to work, you know. So yeah, Na Nas

592
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: pushes me into study more. Okay, because you.

593
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly there you thinking about that, So you have

594
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 5: to answer yeah, not a lifelong but a very long

595
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 5: time in Queens.

596
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: The rumor is that NAS helped you with Jiggy with It,

597
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: so we not Jiggy with During the time that I

598
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: was working on Jiggy, NAS did uh just Cruising. It

599
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: was a record called Just Cruising, right, So me and

600
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: me Ands wrote Just Cruising together and I let Nas

601
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: listen to the album and he was like yes, no, yes, no,

602
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: yes no, And I was like, so we did. We

603
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: didn't do any writing together other than the Just Cruising track,

604
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: but you know, an executive cruiser. Yeah, he was, well,

605
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: he was not really an executive producer. He was there

606
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, will you listen to this

607
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: and tell me what you think you know? And you know,

608
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: he was honest. He was. He was really honest. And

609
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: then we wrote one together. We wrote Just Cruising. It

610
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: was like a B side of Men in Black or so.

611
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: Because he's never confirmed or did not like, yeah, yeah,

612
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: come up to him like you we know you would. Yes.

613
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if he laughed, he just yeah. We definitely,

614
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: we definitely worked in the studio together. I think we

615
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: might have messed around with two or three other songs,

616
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: but just Cruising is the only one that ever was released.

617
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: Okay, so let me ask you because listening to this album,

618
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: first off, I was very very impressed. One I'm not

619
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: impressed because.

620
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: Of what you did.

621
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: I'm impressed because I was trying to figure out with's

622
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 3: this hunger right? Because all of us to make music,

623
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: we have to have hunger right, and then when you're

624
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: not hungry no more, it's harder.

625
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: To make use it. So I'm sitting there, this is

626
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell you.

627
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: I was, you know, first off, your people who sent

628
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 3: the album big up to the lexing them this will

629
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: never be bootlegged.

630
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, my face scare. Did you get

631
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: maybe download downloaded? Like dirty years working ship? I was

632
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: just like yo, I said, for whoever your team is,

633
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: it's so official. Listen to me. They can send this

634
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: ship to the bootlegging place in Kenya, Toby running the house,

635
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,959
Speaker 1: and they still can't bootleg this shit. I just being honest.

636
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: It took three of us in one car to go

637
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: through the whole album. But here's what I was saying.

638
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: I kept listening, and I kept saying, I kept saying,

639
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: where's he going to slack at?

640
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: Where's he going to say, you know what, I'm this

641
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: you know movie star, I'm this guy that reached order accolades.

642
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: I'm so crazy now that I do white boy sports

643
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: and you.

644
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, like, I'm but I'm still black.

645
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: And then but then you come in this album and

646
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find but I was so jealous because

647
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't find you not being hungry. I still felt

648
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: that hunger. I still heard French fresh Prince, and I'm

649
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: jealous of that because you know, if me and a

650
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: poem right now going to make a Worr report, I

651
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: don't think we can I can have that same attitude.

652
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking for him. I'm speaking for myself. And

653
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: so I was.

654
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: I was jealous because it took me a whole day

655
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 3: to download it. So when I finally because you know,

656
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: I'm not that smart, but I had two smart people.

657
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: And it got them. So I was like, I would say,

658
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: it's not just me, but going through it, and then

659
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: I went back through it and I was just like,

660
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: I can't see how you locked in?

661
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: Did you go to like Bali or somewhere like how

662
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: could you lock in and and and block the world

663
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: out and focus on this because it's one it sounds

664
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: like you super focused.

665
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: Two it sounds like you still love the game, love it.

666
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: That's the problem.

667
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 3: That's the part that I'm mad like because I'm like, damn,

668
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: how could he be the way made more than me?

669
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: Obviously have more eccolas and all on wins and things

670
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: like that, But how does he still have that hunger?

671
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: That's that's that's that's the question for me personally and

672
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 3: not even for the world.

673
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: Like I felt that hunger in you. So what happened blood?

674
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: I ain't got a blunt That's how good that question was. Now,

675
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: what happened? What happened with me? Man? Is you know

676
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: in the in the last couple of years, like I

677
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: really just it down, you know, and you know, really

678
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: after the Oscars, I just shut it down, and I

679
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: did a real deep dive, Like I looked at I

680
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: looked at myself as honestly as I could, and I

681
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: looked at all of the parts of myself that I

682
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: always thought of as not for public consumption. Right, So

683
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: there was a Will Smith, and there was an in

684
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: an image, and there was an an an identity of

685
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: Will Smith. But that was only my good qualities it

686
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: was only the best of me. You're saying, what swift

687
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: to the public, right, Yes, Will Smith to the public

688
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: was only the best of me. Will Smith wasn't allowed

689
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: to be.

690
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: Beautiful the beautiful post that you you posted, and you

691
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: posted what you on the island, then you showed that

692
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: it was blue behind you.

693
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: So you're saying like something like that's that that you

694
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: know that that was a one way to do it.

695
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: But the idea that you never saw me not smiling,

696
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: right right, but you could probably imagine there was some

697
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: times when I wouldn't be smiling. It's just that wasn't

698
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: for public consumption, you know, So you know there was

699
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: there was. It was just the best qualities of me.

700
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: So then you know, I was forced into a situation

701
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: where I had to be honest that I don't just

702
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: have good qualities. I have some things that I have

703
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: pushed down. I have you know, fear, I have confusion,

704
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: I have anger, I have sadness. Oh you're human, yeah,

705
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: oh yeah.

706
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: You know that's probably the most beautifulest thing. And I

707
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: know you spoke about it, but I won't. But what

708
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: I'm saying is the most beautiful thing about you is

709
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: you own your humanness. Yes, and and you know, I'm

710
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: gonna be honest and I'm bouncing around. But I always

711
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 3: related to the five percent nation or like the Muslims

712
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 3: a little bit more than the preachers, because the preachers

713
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: showed me that they didn't have mistakes. But when I

714
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: seen you know, the five percenters, I've seen the FOI

715
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 3: handing out the newspaper. I seen that brother messing up before,

716
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: so it made me relate to them all.

717
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: So that's that's what you know, what I'm saying. So

718
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: that's what I feel like with you.

719
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: But my thing is you've never lost a step, and

720
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 3: if you did, I guess you was just a minute

721
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: that but you didn't show it to the world.

722
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: How can you do that? So for me, now now

723
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: this about this time, this phase of you know, my

724
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: career and really this phase of my life is as

725
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: I looked into myself in that way and I like

726
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: really confronted those parts of myself that my humanity, not

727
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: the just the straight Superman winning all the time, the happy,

728
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: happy Superman winner. Right when I started confronting those other

729
00:44:54,719 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: parts of myself, something really magical happened. Right as I like,

730
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: the best way I can describe it is like imagine,

731
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: like you know, I pushed my anger down and I

732
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: held it and then it popped and then I was like, okay,

733
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend like you're not there, like

734
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: let's talk, right, and I really like confronted it. And

735
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: then it's almost like there was a hole under my

736
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: anger that my anger was plugging. But inside the hole

737
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: was great shit. It was great creativity and great power

738
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: and like new ideas. And it was like by not

739
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: accepting that part of myself, I was cutting off the

740
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: good that it could offer me. It's like it's like

741
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: there's no bad qualities, there's no bad qualities in you.

742
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: There are things that are neglected that will be a superpower.

743
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: If you befriend your anger, if you befriend your sadness,

744
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: not try to get rid of it, befriended, befriend the

745
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: fact that you're scared, Like be okay that you're scared.

746
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: You still got dude of shit, but don't pretend like

747
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: you're not scared. Like be scared, but still do it.

748
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: Like when you befriend those energies versus like fighting them,

749
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: they become superpowers. They become your army. So like you

750
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: have this army of energies, and that's the place where

751
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: I am right now. Like the good qualities that I

752
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: thought were the strongest, will Smith, that's not. It's like

753
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: now those qualities are backed up by all of these

754
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: other energies that are like having been cleansed, like not

755
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: you don't want them to drunk drive through your life.

756
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: But now they've been like cleansed, and now they're giving

757
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: me gifts. They're giving me poetry, they're giving me power,

758
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: they're giving me patience, they're giving me certainty, you know.

759
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: So to me, there's a long way to answer the

760
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: question the hunger I'm from. Like, I got cheat codes, right,

761
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: I got cheat codes. I want to, Like I want

762
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: to share cheat my cheat codes. I want to, Yeah,

763
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: I want to. I'm not. I never thought I needed derby, dude,

764
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: like the way you broke, I want you need to

765
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: be a defist, like or like tell somebody your dirty

766
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: because I was I was so in like I want

767
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: to you know how when it's I'm like, yo, can

768
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: we tell you that was so? That was so dope, man,

769
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: that's so dope man.

770
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 3: And I noticed a cliche question, And I'm gonna get

771
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: back to quick time of slim.

772
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: But did you have a thing that you would make

773
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: it this far? H man. I've been beyond my dreams

774
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: for like twenty years. I've been beyond anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

775
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: like you know now and it's like I'm in unknown

776
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: territory right now. I have no idea where this is going.

777
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: I have no idea you know what's happening. But you know,

778
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: if you think of it as a wave, right, I

779
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: know I can surf, right. So I'm like, you know, life,

780
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: bring it back? Yeah, right, right, I don't know like

781
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: things are. So when I when I was saying cheat codes, right,

782
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: so one of the first things there's a there's a

783
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: song on an album called you can Make It. You

784
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: can make It. It's a Monday, yes, so one of

785
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: the cheat codes around you can make it? Right, So

786
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: as I as I sit in this room right now, right,

787
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: so a bunch of black men, you know, and you know,

788
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: we would never admit we're having a hard time, right,

789
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: but you don't have to tell me. I know you are.

790
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: I know you are, and I can be here and

791
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: I can make it harder for you, or I can

792
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: be here to have you be stronger when I leave, right,

793
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: but what I used to think that you know, you know,

794
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: I got to defend myself. I don't have to defend

795
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: myself from you. We both having an equal hard time.

796
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,479
Speaker 1: If I don't aggress upon you, you're not going to write.

797
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: It's like if you know that I know that you're

798
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: having a hard time, and that I don't want to

799
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: be any part of why it's more difficult for y'all, right,

800
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: And it's like like that's a cheat code. Like that's

801
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: a real cheat code. People see it in your eyes

802
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: when you know they're having a hard time and you

803
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: don't want to make it harder. They also see when

804
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: you don't give a fuck, if they see you don't

805
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: give a fuck, not a part of them that don't

806
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: give a plut you know what I mean. Yeah, So

807
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: it's like to me, it's like part of the part

808
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: of that cheat code of entering rooms and entering interacting

809
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: with people. It's like, I don't know what it is,

810
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: but I know every single person in here is struggling

811
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: with something, with something right, and at different levels. You

812
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: know some you know, somebody's going through a breakup, and

813
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: you know somebody you know lost some money that they

814
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: really needed. Somebody that got a loved when it just died.

815
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: You know, somebody's family is fighting over something. You know,

816
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: everybody's lifing, right, So it's a cheat code to don't

817
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: get lost on the person in front of you, even

818
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: if they're aggressing. They're aggressing because life is fucking you.

819
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: It's what's not you. Life is hurting them, and they

820
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 1: even may perceive that you're aggressing just how you walk.

821
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: It don't even have to be you. They could they're

822
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: perceiving that you're aggressing, and they're prepared to hurt you. Right.

823
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: But it's like the cheat code is just know that

824
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: don't even don't even go into that energy space with them,

825
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: you know, and you know for me, like that song

826
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: you can make It, It was like that was part

827
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: of the discovery, like you know, don't don't get distracted

828
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: from the fact of every step you take is affecting

829
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: people's lives as you move, right. So that was what

830
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: part of the idea of you you can make it

831
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: is like keeping in my mind when I'm looking at people,

832
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you can make it. I don't know what

833
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: it is, brother, but I know you got it. You

834
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: got it. You know. And it's like holding that energy

835
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: as a real cheat code because then people want to

836
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: help you when they feel like you're open to want

837
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: to help them. Voter want to help you. But it

838
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: takes vulnerability to open that. Men don't. We don't do

839
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: that with each other. Right, So for me when I

840
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: come downstairs, brothers, it's welcome to Philly, like like like

841
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: I want you to enjoy it and have fun with

842
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: you in Philly, you know. And it's like I want

843
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: you to feel safe and have a good time. I

844
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: got cheese steaks for you, you know. And it's like

845
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: that energy is an energy of abundance. You like you,

846
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: You build things, you make friends, you build relationships, You

847
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: create a safe space around you. When you start from

848
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: that mindset that the person is going through something, it's

849
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: like you're trying to reverse the idea of hurt people

850
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: hurt people. Yes, absolutely, trying to reverse absolutely, you know.

851
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 3: But I want to say something because the rollout that

852
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 3: your family, the people that work with you, you've seen

853
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 3: you a million dos work for games. We've seen you

854
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 3: on what's the guy name that tells everybody to stop

855
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: smoking in his airbnb?

856
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: You did play Boy back.

857
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: And you did drink chances and when you're looking at that,

858
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: you're sitting back saying, damn, your team knows what they're doing.

859
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: They're shifting with the time.

860
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 3: A lot of people would have went to, you know,

861
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 3: the traditional radios, which you had you dropping an album,

862
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 3: so obviously you want the radio splays. But right now,

863
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: black young, unscripted media is running the world. So the

864
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 3: fact that your team knew that, Like, I watched it

865
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: and I'm sitting back and I'm like, whoever's on your team,

866
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: they know exactly what they're doing.

867
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: So here's my question.

868
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 3: You knowing that now that black young media is running

869
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 3: the thing, where is Overbrooks Podcast Company? Where's Overbrooks Production Company?

870
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: For the young directors? Putting young next? Willsmith for the

871
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 3: young next, Kevin Hart, that's here? Eat was like me,

872
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 3: he chis with because I know you brought cheese steaks

873
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 3: and you trust.

874
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: Me, I'm gonna be judgment to home. Helpy came up

875
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: and said, I forgot the cheez whiz. I said, I'm

876
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: judging you on both times.

877
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 3: I'm here from Philly. But but but that's you know,

878
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 3: it's something that I learned and I had to learn

879
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 3: going through it because I had to go through it. Nas,

880
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 3: who he spoke about earlier. Nas could have had Copona

881
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 3: Nori Jega sign. He could have had Mob Deep sign,

882
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 3: he could have had a Z sign, he could have

883
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: had Foxy Brown sign. But he chose to kind of

884
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 3: be our friends right when we wanted. We might have

885
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 3: wanted our leader at that time. So if you look

886
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: at Nas and that's my brother, you know what I'm saying,

887
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 3: them before I got here. But then you look at Jay.

888
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 3: Jay didn't really care about him being your leader or not.

889
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: He wanted to make good business. So if you look

890
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: at that, but then if you look at them both,

891
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 3: that's what you are like, you know what I'm saying, Like,

892
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 3: you're a person who has the movies, your person who

893
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: has the music. And then and obviously podcasts is this

894
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: a new thing? And I'm sitting back like, why isn't Overbrook?

895
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: You know that virsion of our heart, know how our

896
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 3: heart has all this? And then you got you got

897
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 3: Netflix and God bless us. Right we made Netflix and Chill.

898
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: That was a dude that was born during COVID and

899
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: said Netflix and Chill and the whole ship, this is

900
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: our people. When is our people who are at that

901
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: top going to invest into people, whether it's that that

902
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: bottom or whatever. And I'm not just saying overbook, it's

903
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: just like I kind of feel like black folks or

904
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: hip hop folks should invest in hip hop now. So

905
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,959
Speaker 1: here's so, was that a good question? First?

906
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: That that was really good? You felt good about it.

907
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 3: I'm like it was like it was sharp, it was

908
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 3: a little bit it was yeah, but I want you

909
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 3: to answer, we need blacks to invest in blacks?

910
00:55:55,640 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: Yes, cheers cherious, Yes, So that one. No, so right, So,

911
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: first of all, it's it's always been the case right

912
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: that my manager, Miguel, he's still in here, he would

913
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: he would always say what's urban is suburban? Right? So

914
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: so our community has always led right, so uh always

915
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: let right. So it was you know, brands, you know

916
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: before run DMC were always looking at what was happening

917
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: and they say, yes, absolutely, they were always looking at

918
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: what happened in the inner city. And then once run

919
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: DMC really they they broke the barrier. They didn't have

920
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: a deal with Adidas. They were wearing Adidas before they

921
00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: had to deal with and then they were like, oh,

922
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: got it right, So Adidas didn't even know their sales

923
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: were spiking because run DMC was wearing Adidas. Right, So

924
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: that the idea of the the the inner cities and

925
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: urban communities leading in in you know, fashion and branding

926
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: as we've always been that. So in terms of you

927
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: know the question of why we don't do that, so

928
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: we do do it, it's it's bandwidth is an issue. Right.

929
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: So you know, I know Kevin Heart's company, you know,

930
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: Heartbeat Overbrook, big y'all up man, we got yes, yes, yeah, yeah,

931
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: that big y'all up definitely, you know, but when you

932
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: get to fifteen projects, you're at your whole company's bandwidth, right.

933
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: But there's four thousand, you know, people who deserve a look, right.

934
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, you got one executive that's

935
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: working ten projects that they believe in that one is

936
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: going to go right, right, So you look at a

937
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: company after four years and it's like, you know, so

938
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: for us with our company with like bel Air, okay, right,

939
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: so we've got black staff and you know, black and

940
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: brown writing and staff and all of that, but it

941
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:41,959
Speaker 1: takes everything our TV division has to keep that show

942
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: up and relevant and going. And then you just don't

943
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: have the bandwidth to have a second one going to

944
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: it's like all hands on deck to make show, to

945
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: make sure the show wins, because when you get the shot,

946
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: you have to win too, right, you know. So you

947
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: know we have that, we set it up, and then

948
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, things happen, so you start building it out right,

949
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: So you'll start building out your divisions and you get going,

950
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: and then there's a strike. Oh yeah, the writer's strike.

951
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: Now there's a writers strike and you have to like,

952
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: you can't survive because you can't work and you can't

953
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: hold one hundred percent staff, so you got to scale

954
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: down to twenty percent staff until the strike is over.

955
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: Now you lose all of these great people, you lose

956
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: all of these great projects, and now you're starting up

957
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: all over again. Right, So there are business considerations like

958
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry has like the most like stable foundation of

959
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: being able to make things in churn them out. But

960
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: you know it's bandwidth. Also Tyler's writing and directing, you

961
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: know all of this stuff too, right, So it's really

962
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: it's it is. The idea is simple to say, but

963
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: when you look at reality, the reality of it is,

964
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: if you have a staff of forty, you could get

965
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: to bandwidth on a staff of forty people with two projects.

966
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: You could be like, you get two big things going,

967
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: and what it takes to keep it going is like

968
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: it's really hard. Then what happens is then you have

969
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: to let other people be in charge. Right, So when

970
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking over a project, like, I'm I'm the taste, right,

971
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: so you know, I have other people that are really

972
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: good taste. But as you get broader, you lose the

973
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: taste and then you start making things that aren't good

974
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: and that's not helpful either, you know. So it is,

975
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: it is a It is a complex it's a complex problem,

976
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: and more complex in today's media landscape where everything is

977
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: every day is turning over. So on top of it,

978
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, yeah, ten years ago, you could

979
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: take a big bet and be pretty sure you're going

980
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: to make it limited box office yeah yeah right, you know,

981
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: so it is that, you know, it is. It is difficult,

982
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: and people now are thinking of it as disposable, right,

983
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: so movies, yeah, disposable, well, entertainment and general the content

984
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: is disposable, freed everybody. So you can't even like, you know,

985
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: make a two million dollar bet on something because people

986
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: might decide that that's not exactly. Yeah, it's it is

987
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: a it is a difficult issue, and I'm in a

988
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: lot of those rooms. It is not because people are

989
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: not trying to make it. Yeah, it is not because

990
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: people yet.

991
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they always say that being the first person,

992
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 3: it's beautiful, but you know, you get you get looked,

993
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 3: get frowned upon.

994
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: Right, I'm using that lightly. Again.

995
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 3: You were the first person to win a Grammy, first rapper,

996
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 3: first rapper to ever win a Grammy.

997
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: Right, we boycott it and you boycott it and one

998
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: and one still except that's right, we didn't accept one.

999
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 4: But were you guys solely boycotting on your own or

1000
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 4: it felt like it was a hip hop?

1001
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: Boy? It was a hip hop So so what happened

1002
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: the So it was the first year ever that pop

1003
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: got hip hop got acknowledged by the Grammys. So they

1004
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: acknowledged that they had the category, but they said they

1005
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: weren't going to televise the the hip hop category. They

1006
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: weren't going to televise it. So we were like, well, wait,

1007
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: we sold more records than everybody, Like, why is that?

1008
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: Why is our stuff not being televised? So Russell Simmons

1009
01:02:55,240 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: and le Or Cohen and m t V organized a boycott. Okay,

1010
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: and you're not on depth Jam, I'm not on deaf Jam.

1011
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: Rush's management makes sense, Okay, I just wanted to make

1012
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: a sense. Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm so they organized a boycott.

1013
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: They said nobody where Nobody's going. So MTV has a

1014
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: counter show that's going to boycott the Grammys. So we go,

1015
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: and you know, two days before the Grammys, we find

1016
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: out that Como D has agreed to appear Grammys. Damn

1017
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: with the big glasses and a yeah yeah cool yeah

1018
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: so D but he uh and it's so crazy because

1019
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: it seems it seems so little and silly now, but

1020
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: it was like the biggest thing is everyone looked at

1021
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: the betrayer. Yeah liked and we Me and Mo were

1022
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: like great friends. We still are, but it was like

1023
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: it was like huge that he crossed the line and

1024
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: he went and did an intro to the Grammys. Wo right,

1025
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: so yeah he did the whole legend. It was just

1026
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: it was just it's so funny because it was like

1027
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: the biggest like our lives depended on this and it

1028
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: was like the worst ship that ever happened. Uh, Me

1029
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: and Mo laugh about this now. But so we're there

1030
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: and it's US and Salt and Pepper and LL and

1031
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: stets of Sonic and so it's like fifty rappers and

1032
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: we're standing and we're watching and you know, they're doing

1033
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: the show. And then they they do the earlier tonight

1034
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: awards were given in the rap category and we're standing

1035
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: with all the rappers and me and Jeffers standing were

1036
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: looking at the TV and we were nominated against It

1037
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: was o pp It was uh was it still a

1038
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: rapping R and B just right. It was the first

1039
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: time that it was just wrapped. So it was like US, L,

1040
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: Salt and Peppa h. This was dominated Super Sonic. Oh

1041
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: that's right, yeah, yeah, JJ past on two three four,

1042
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm missing a missing a fifth my name running m

1043
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: C was in there all right, So it was you know,

1044
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: so everybody was nominated. So we're standing there and we're

1045
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: watching the TV and they say and earlier this afternoon,

1046
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: DJ j Z, Jeff and Fresh Prince were awarded Best

1047
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: Wrap and we're standing there with everybody, and I was

1048
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: like a boycott. You didn't know you were gonna win.

1049
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know were you what? I was like, man,

1050
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: me and went in the other room and it was like, yo,

1051
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: the first grandy ever give it to a wrapper, And

1052
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: it was like we never, we never really you know,

1053
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: had the chance to fully celebrate. But it was really

1054
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: giant hearing that we wanted the first ever.

1055
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, hip hop could be you know, critical until

1056
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: they actually make that position right. Like it's like it's

1057
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 3: like a person seeing the first person doing the alley, like, well,

1058
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 3: that shit looks crazy, and then you learn how to do.

1059
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 3: This is legit, you know what I'm saying. So after

1060
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 3: winning the Grammys, when did it become cool to actually

1061
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 3: win Grammy?

1062
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure you got chasts, yeah for sure now

1063
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, well they only won

1064
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: because white people like their music. But that's cool. They

1065
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: won because it's they want one, because it's soft, you know,

1066
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: it was their their music was palatable for other audiences.

1067
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 4: That critic is still going on to this day. When

1068
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 4: itgory for sure, you know, you know, I think I

1069
01:06:58,760 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 4: think it was probably like.

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Speaker 1: Like three three Grammys later where it was like cool,

1071
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: cool to to win the Grammy. It was like that

1072
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: that next year still wasn't cool, but they televised it,

1073
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: so it was like good that they televised that they

1074
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: were respecting the genre. But it was yeah, definitely, like

1075
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: three years later that it was like a real prestige

1076
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: thing to to win a Grammy.

1077
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, because now everybody's bragging about it, but back then

1078
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 3: they were like pistol the Grammy.

1079
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I hope actually did it pistle you well,

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01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: Kanye one of them did that. They said, No, it's

1081
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: a it's a it's an honor. Anytime anybody will say

1082
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: we appreciate what you do, I think there's a lot

1083
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: of silliness that goes into that. It's not about the award,

1084
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's a work you know that you

1085
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: put into Somebody is saying, hey, I appreciate what you do,

1086
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: and you know what your how your gifts are being

1087
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: received by humanity. Is that that is That's a real thing.

1088
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: Is there any aspirations to be to have an egot

1089
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: to all of them? Uh? Because you know, I'm I'm pasted,

1090
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm past awards in in my mindset. You know, there's

1091
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: a there's a thing I think that everybody. Uh, I

1092
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: wish that everybody could have everything they dream to realize

1093
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: that that's not it. You know I've said before, like

1094
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: there's a there are people talk about rock bottom that

1095
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: when you hit rock bottom is when you'll make a

1096
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: change drugs like drugs. People say dr rock bottom in life. Yeah,

1097
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, it is that people say it in in

1098
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: you know, in a talking about rock bottom. But there's

1099
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: a core responding place that I call cliff top. Right,

1100
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: you could be too high, where you get so high

1101
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: that you realize literally none of the stuff can make

1102
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: you happy. Right after you you get you can get

1103
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: to the end of the material world. You get to

1104
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: the end of money, you get to the end of sex.

1105
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: You know, you get to the end of fame. You

1106
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: get you you you have so much, and you get

1107
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: and then you you like go off of a cliff

1108
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: into the same kind of abyss that you'd be scared

1109
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: of slipping into at rock bottom, right where life loses

1110
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 1: all of its ability to sustain and please you. And

1111
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: then the only thing that's left the same thing at

1112
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 1: rock bottom. The only thing that's left at cliff top

1113
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: is you have to You have to find what you

1114
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: actually looking looking for, And what you're actually looking for

1115
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: is you. You're looking for you. You're running around right

1116
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: when you when you like a woman and you like

1117
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,759
Speaker 1: being with a woman is because you like how you feel.

1118
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: You like what's happening inside of you. When you have money,

1119
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, it's cool to buy things, but it's

1120
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: not the money. You like how you feel inside. It's

1121
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: unleashing a feeling inside and at rock bottom and at

1122
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,560
Speaker 1: cliff top, what you have to learn how to do

1123
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: is generate that feeling without anything external you want to

1124
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: You have to learn how to like like you so

1125
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: much that you like being alive so much that you

1126
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: you bring positive energy that's not generated by stuff. Right

1127
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: because stuff is coming and going, like people are coming

1128
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: in going. Everything you have and everybody you love is

1129
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: going to rise and fall in your life. The place

1130
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: that we have to find is a spiritual place where

1131
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 1: we are good with us. We trust us. I trust myself,

1132
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: I trust God, and I trust life that whatever happens,

1133
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to make happy out of it. I don't

1134
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: need specific things to happen.

1135
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 4: And I think also the important thing is we forget

1136
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 4: that that journey is really the middle part is really

1137
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 4: the best part of me.

1138
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. It's like being able to be right here,

1139
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: right now with whatever arises and not need a specific

1140
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: thing to happen, right, And it's like, you know, part

1141
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 1: of the beauty of these these moments for me and

1142
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: these interactions for me, it's like I don't need a

1143
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: specific thing to happen with us. Now, I'm open and

1144
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm excited, Like what's going to evolve from this moment.

1145
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: And as soon as I have a specific thing that

1146
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: I want to happen that I want from you, now

1147
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: it it it throws off the energy of our experience,

1148
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm just learning to accept life as

1149
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: it comes. Just relax.

1150
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 7: You know.

1151
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 1: Some ship's gonna come that you don't like, some ship's

1152
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: gonna come that you do like. And it's like, I'm

1153
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: trying to just cultivate a mind that is able to

1154
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: accept and add love to any circumstance that arises. Letting go.

1155
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: This is what I got to do that let me

1156
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: join you properly. Cheers, So look at me. So I

1157
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: want to speak about you quick time was like we

1158
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: just didn't go back sometime. I want to say something

1159
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: about Philadelpia. Don't care nothing about the rules, but.

1160
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 3: Philly has made such a dramatic mark in hip hop,

1161
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 3: he says after you, like prior to you, we had

1162
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 3: Schoolly Deal first, then we had you, and like you said,

1163
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:32,679
Speaker 3: like so many people.

1164
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: There's a lot of firsts from Philly and hip hop

1165
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 1: is going way better. You know what I'm saying is

1166
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: from him. But so many people didn't understand because you

1167
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: were making clean rap, right for lack of a better term, right,

1168
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 1: you were making clean rap.

1169
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 3: A lot of people didn't know what rest Philadelphia was.

1170
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 3: A lot of people didn't know what Philadelphia was. A

1171
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 3: lot of people didn't know that Philadelphia. You're gonna get

1172
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 3: killed out there.

1173
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: You're done, and you're gonna shot a shot and and

1174
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: they might stay there to like It's like so a

1175
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't know that because New York was

1176
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 1: so much of but now Philly has kind of like

1177
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: took his own mark, like like I mean, through hip hop,

1178
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: through through so many different things, through comedy, cav How

1179
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 1: did how did you did you see that Philly would be.

1180
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 3: Prominent like that because it's damn near next to New

1181
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 3: York at this point.

1182
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting, Like Philly was all out news

1183
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: right so to to me, the the hip hop culture

1184
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: and the creative culture in Philly and even before that,

1185
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: when I you know, when I was growing up, Joe

1186
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: Fraser was Philly. Yeah history, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,

1187
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: so you know there there has been a long history.

1188
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: Uh you know, Wilt Chamberlain went to the high school.

1189
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: I mean that he was going with He's famous brothers

1190
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: literally a couple of times, you know. But you know,

1191
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: there's a rich history. There's a rich, rich history of

1192
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 1: talent and successful people. Julius Irving, you know when I

1193
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: was growing up, so you know, for me, it was

1194
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: always I knew that I was going to do my

1195
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: best to be a part of a rich history. I

1196
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 1: didn't feel like I was starting anything right, So I

1197
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 1: felt like I was being you know, gambling ugh, and

1198
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, I felt like I was being a part

1199
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 1: of a history, contributing, contributing to something that was already

1200
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: you know, alive and well.

1201
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 3: Listening to this album, I felt like you called everyone

1202
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 3: and everyone said yes, but I'm wondering if I'm wrong.

1203
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 3: Was there anybody that you called for this album and

1204
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 3: they were like, I'm busy or I'm in Costa Rica?

1205
01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: No, you know, yeah, no, there there were there were

1206
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: a couple of people who who weren't sure about working

1207
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: with me. There were yeah, there were, There were definitely

1208
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: definitely a couple of people. It was the hot water,

1209
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. They were like, yeah, we'll wait for

1210
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: the second round. Will were round, Yeah, the boy the boiler,

1211
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we'll see. But it was actually that that

1212
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 1: was new for me too, that I got that was

1213
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 1: real humbling. I'm used.

1214
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 8: I was used to when when Big Willie call it

1215
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 8: was you know, I was like, I was saying, but

1216
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 8: they honest about it.

1217
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 1: No, No, people weren't being honest. You know, they weren't

1218
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 1: being honest. But I knew. I knew that's what it was.

1219
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: I knew that's what it was. Well, please please do

1220
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: not forget. But the other day new he called me. Now,

1221
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: he called me and was like, yo, can you can

1222
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: you meet me at Club eleven? And I was like, yeah,

1223
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: of course, and you said it. He knew I was

1224
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: lying because I'm too old there want to, but I

1225
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: don't want to tell him no. So I was like

1226
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, okay. And then and then Nellie

1227
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: he knew it. He heard. He freezed. He's like, damn,

1228
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: you could just say. I was like, I'm older. Now

1229
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 1: you want him shoutut my grass yeah, so I don't

1230
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: go out.

1231
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 3: So I don't don't go out. No, but I feel different.

1232
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 3: Now are you different? I'm talking you're different because how

1233
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 3: people treated for the incident that happened. No, you know,

1234
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 3: can you see how these people fuckers are?

1235
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: No? No, I I don't have so. First of all,

1236
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: I didn't look at anything that anybody said, right, So,

1237
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: like I literally shut it down. I was like, I

1238
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: don't want to know nothing that nobody saidication as all. Yeah,

1239
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: somebody had five months where I didn't even look at

1240
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, Instagram, and I was, yeah, we all need

1241
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, you know. So it's like, you know,

1242
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: I know there there's you know, like people that went hard, right,

1243
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 1: but I literally don't know. I don't know. Me and

1244
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: Charlie was out the other night, me and Charlie, yeah,

1245
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: and somebody somebody walked in that had had gone hard,

1246
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, no, no, no, not that one.

1247
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: That one. I ain't gonna say nobody's name. Somebody's name.

1248
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: Figure it out. We're not speaking of him. We're not

1249
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: speaking of him, right, you know. But for me, it's

1250
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 1: like I just I knew it would poison in my heart,

1251
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, I just don't want that, man,

1252
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: I just don't want to know what none of them

1253
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,759
Speaker 1: niggas said. So when I see him, Hey, man, Charlie

1254
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 1: can just grab my hand. I love that. But that

1255
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: was all right.

1256
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna give you one of mine. I did

1257
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 3: an interview, our second interview with his brother. Our first

1258
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 3: interview was so beautiful. I mean, a second interview was beautiful.

1259
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 3: It had parts in there that, oh I already know.

1260
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I remember we're dropping an interview.

1261
01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 3: And sorry for anybody who's looking the but you know,

1262
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 3: puff Daddy called me and said, man, you sure you

1263
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 3: want to drop this? And I said, yeah, I'm an

1264
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 3: artistic I'm standing by my artistic artistic tree.

1265
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm standing by my Japanese outpian street will boys. I

1266
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: regret that.

1267
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 3: He did not say I told you so. No, Hed

1268
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 3: never told me that. He never too, but he told

1269
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 3: me and we dropped this Kanye interview. The name I said,

1270
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to say the name I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You just didn't say. But if you expressed by and

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Speaker 1: f N are not necessarily will Smith that what I'm saying.

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01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:53,560
Speaker 1: She entered. It surprised me with the people that called me.

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01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 3: The people that called me wasn't the essential people that

1275
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 3: I thought that were called like Shaq called.

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01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: Me, Pharrell called me, and it was just for me.

1277
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 1: It was just like I made a mistake, and what

1278
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: I say, I made a mistake. I never said nothing,

1279
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: but I did not like that.

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01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 3: So now I understand that that this is my responsibility

1281
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 3: if a person is on my platform, regardless of what.

1282
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 3: If will Will Smith gets on my platform and says,

1283
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 3: let's let's say Monster Energy, we got to get money

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01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 3: with them.

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01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: We get money with them. Don't talk about let's say

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01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:41,839
Speaker 1: black black black. No excuse me, brown brown little squares,

1287
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: there's a piece of ship. Yeah, brown little square is

1288
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: not only as mad as you.

1289
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 3: If they're mad at me, they thought that I edited it,

1290
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 3: They thought that that I went over it, and they

1291
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 3: thought that I deliberately said.

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01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: When it's really just your views.

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01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 3: So my question is saying that was one of my

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01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 3: in front of the industry most downist moments, and the

1295
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 3: people who called me was people that I did not

1296
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 3: in one of your downiest moments. Was whoever one of

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01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 3: these who was the person who called you? Who you

1298
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 3: you didn't think Floyd Mayweather.

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01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: Floyd. I love Floyd. Yeah yeah, Floyd called me every

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01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 1: day for a month after that. Oh yeah, you know

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01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: I love let me. I want to back up on

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01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: this a little bit because that's what you touched on

1303
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: a good point, all right, So you know you you

1304
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: get this interview if you have it and you put

1305
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: it out. Here's the cheat code. Yeah, So people said

1306
01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: to me, will you sure you wanted to do drink champs? Really?

1307
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: Do you want? You want to? Like you say, for real,

1308
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: for real? Like will are you sure you want to

1309
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: put yourself in that position? Right? But you know right?

1310
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah right? We don't even know, right, So it's like, well,

1311
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: what are you gonna You're gonna take drinks? Right? And

1312
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: then who knows what the fuck you might say? Right right?

1313
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: And they were like, you know, Norris good at getting

1314
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: you to say some ship you might not right right?

1315
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: So so I said, oh, because I love y'all right.

1316
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: So I sat on it for a minute.

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01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 3: My son, that's my first time I we mentioned the

1318
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 3: bright No no, no, that's a Nickelodeon nicolode continue right.

1319
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 1: So so but I really had to sit with that, right.

1320
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 1: So the cheat code is what's your intention? Right? So

1321
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: when you're in those situations, it's like, what is your intention?

1322
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 1: What was your intention in that moment? In that moment,

1323
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: what's your intention putting out the interview? Right? So for me,

1324
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: when you're ten toes down in your intention? Right. So

1325
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: my intention of being here with y'all is to support

1326
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: any good you're trying to put in the world.

1327
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 3: We want to show you our because our attention is

1328
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 3: about giving people their flowers, the smell them.

1329
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: They and we'll let me just tell you something.

1330
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 3: Every wrapper in this world that ever tried to act,

1331
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 3: ever wanted to go into another, we all owe you,

1332
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 3: we all owe you. We all have to take our

1333
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 3: hats off to you. You gotta rub our Beijing, and

1334
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 3: we gotta do whatever. I'm obviously not doing it, we know.

1335
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 3: But every rapp up who has ventured out you know,

1336
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 3: you know, I mean even did you know, uh what

1337
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 3: do we call it?

1338
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: Uh? Uh?

1339
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 3: You know other business mentions because prior to you, all

1340
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 3: rappers did was rap. And then when they didn't have

1341
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 3: them pensions in them W nine's in the one case,

1342
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 3: then they started to complain.

1343
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: But you gave the blueprint. You said, you know what

1344
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,719
Speaker 1: I could rap, I could dominate rappers that can.

1345
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 3: Dominate another fail, and then I can come back and

1346
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 3: I can dominate another fail, and I gonna keep dominating

1347
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 3: another field.

1348
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: I keep going.

1349
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 3: I can get so bored. I could do ship that

1350
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 3: y'all don't even like it. And guess what, and then

1351
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 3: you had to TikTok phenomenon.

1352
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: I'll be following you on. I don't know what the

1353
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: fuck you be doing. I'm like, I'm like, fucking will

1354
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: swip through it, Like.

1355
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 3: It's just so we want you to know, like how

1356
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 3: important how much are you tip that other world?

1357
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: And right now we probably don't understand because the other

1358
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: world has just been chipped. Yeah, for sure, that's pioneering.

1359
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 1: That means that's what pioneer. That's why I said earlier.

1360
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, yo, you know you was the

1361
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 3: first person to running grabby. I'm sure I was the

1362
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 3: first person to do reggae dong.

1363
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 1: People laughed at me. I almost had to wear a

1364
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 1: pampa because I feel like everyone's shipping on me. But

1365
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 1: guess what.

1366
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 3: You can't turn the radio without saying, but you've been

1367
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:33,560
Speaker 3: trying to be spanning too, I mean, why be watching you?

1368
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 9: You're not calling you poppy letting you know, like you

1369
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:46,919
Speaker 9: be having spain this girl, I'll see the left deal community.

1370
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: We've been contemplating on how we kicking you out well

1371
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 1: like this nigga want to be called poppy drawing the

1372
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: line man, you have to brew? Are we are? Girl

1373
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 1: and brew? How do you let me tell you? I mean,

1374
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: it's nothing like it's it's nothing like uh, Friday night

1375
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: in Colombia. You know, I'm telling you, it's a lot

1376
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 1: of places. It's a lot of places. What are you doing?

1377
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: The hole? It's beautiful. I'm like I've always I've always

1378
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 1: loved you know, Latin music and and Latin food and

1379
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: like the the you know, the fire of Latin women

1380
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:42,560
Speaker 1: and dance and all of that.

1381
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 4: All of our Latin music comes from Africa as well. Yes,

1382
01:27:47,000 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 4: trying this for bad Boy five. That will. Let me

1383
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 4: just tell you something that we were so excited I

1384
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 4: worked out about.

1385
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: You're doing you know what we're doing the Rocky Steps tomorrow.

1386
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 1: Yeah you heard. I could have I could have hit

1387
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: your team. Your team is so official. Yeah.

1388
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I couldn't bother them, Like

1389
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 3: everybody was a fit and I couldn't download the album.

1390
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 3: I asked him about seventeen times about the album, everything, everything.

1391
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so efficient.

1392
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 3: But we're doing the Rocky Steps tomorrow because that's my

1393
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 3: dream to run the Rocky Step. So now it's gonna

1394
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 3: be mostly Instagram meaning I'm I'm running very.

1395
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: Fast, Yes, got it, and I'm gonna go up to

1396
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: the hill. Yeah, I'm gonna be like yo yo yo,

1397
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah you do that. Yeah yeah yeah. Is that how

1398
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 1: you trained for Ali? Yeah? Oh no that yeah, no, no, no,

1399
01:28:54,640 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 1: that was a good yeah. You know, my mouth was open,

1400
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: but you with all these real trainers, right, No, it

1401
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 1: was real. Yeah, okay, because I wasn't. I wasn't the

1402
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: boxing classes in South Beach, yes, and you walked in.

1403
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,640
Speaker 4: Actually I don't know if you know the trainer was

1404
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 4: still working at that at that gym.

1405
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 1: Act as Ali. Yeah, we did. We did a real

1406
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: fight camp. So it was it was you know, real fighters,

1407
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: Michael Bent, Uh, Charles Shooter, James Tony and you know

1408
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 1: it was they wanted me to train and to you know,

1409
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 1: have a sense of the experience of what it was

1410
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: like to train for a real fight. So we went

1411
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: real real and Michael Michael Bent was like, you know,

1412
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 1: mentoring me and James Tony was the one that he

1413
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 1: no actors, So James, Tony would hit me real, James,

1414
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:07,600
Speaker 1: Tony would hit me for real. Yeah, And I was like,

1415
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the act. He would screamed. He

1416
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 1: would scream, bite your mouthpiece. When he was throwing a punch,

1417
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 1: he would say, bite your mouth piece, you know, James, Yeah, James.

1418
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: I was like, James, seriously, come on, man, come on,

1419
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: I got it. I don't work with no actors. We

1420
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 1: fighters in here. You know if Jake pulled child you

1421
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 1: to a fight, would you take it? Man, I'm too

1422
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 1: old for that. Good that that joke is strong. He

1423
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 1: is he we you know, you know he made, he made.

1424
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 7: He's not.

1425
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 1: Working his way to being a professional fighter, right, but

1426
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: you know he was like he was a champion wrestler

1427
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 1: before he that. Yeah. Yeah, no, he's he's he's he's real.

1428
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 1: You know, maybe now on the professional level, yeah, but

1429
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 1: you know as a as a fight he can fight

1430
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: for real. Yeah. People an't like you can has an

1431
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: affinity for the.

1432
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 3: Be honest with you, not since my father's older friends,

1433
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 3: I've heard somebody use the word joker.

1434
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 1: Joker. Every time you use it, I crink.

1435
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 4: No, bring it, bring those old school joints back.

1436
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 3: If you don't know that East coast when the when

1437
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 3: the East coast say, man, that joka, that's up now.

1438
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 1: The person place and I'm looking at well and now

1439
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,639
Speaker 1: you were using in your rhymes to it. I'm telling

1440
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: you use that that that's the only good I had.

1441
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: So joka joka is that just genera But let me

1442
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 1: just say, jokat a lot cooler ship. Yeah, we got

1443
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: we got so much schools. But step give me something,

1444
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: give me But joking, like we say, joker, this joker

1445
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,680
Speaker 1: all the time, that joke, it must be out of

1446
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 1: his mind. But that y'all, y'all, y'all, yeah, ya, y'all, y'all, y'all,

1447
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 1: day that joint that really that jo yeah joke would

1448
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 1: just make me say, damn this grandfather to ship right

1449
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 1: here out here. It makes me makes me I don't

1450
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: want to accept except man, I use Beijing, I used

1451
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: we want y'all you used me one No, no, mine

1452
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: is just like this all the time. Man, Well come

1453
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 1: on a little bit. I know many my ship would

1454
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:40,600
Speaker 1: probably look like that. Yeah, yeah, for sure, I'm on

1455
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 1: the verge. If you had one thing to do all

1456
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: over in this industry, and that's anything. What would you

1457
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 1: do one thing to do all over again? You know

1458
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: it's funny like once your once your past things right,

1459
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 1: there are very few. You know. There's a song on

1460
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 1: an album called Beautiful Scars, right, So what the the

1461
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 1: idea is you You don't like shit while you're going

1462
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 1: through it, right, but once you learn the lesson, you

1463
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: never want to give it back. Right. It's like you

1464
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 1: suffered it, you survived, you took a lesson from it.

1465
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 1: Now it's like the things that you have suffered are

1466
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 1: in your eyes when you talk to your son, right,

1467
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 1: if you ain't been there, you can't help him, right.

1468
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:50,680
Speaker 1: So to me, it's like, you know, I wouldn't you

1469
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: know when I look back, there's like there's not things.

1470
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean, of course there's things you know I think about,

1471
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't. I would never from this side of it,

1472
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 1: I would never give them ours back.

1473
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 3: Because you're looking at it like whatever you've been through,

1474
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 3: why you're here now, makes.

1475
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 1: You who you are? Right, It's like you you're you

1476
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:16,640
Speaker 1: can't be more valuable than your suffering. And that's a

1477
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: really that's a hard idea you learn in this world

1478
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 1: by getting smashed. That's that's how that's the sound shot. Yes,

1479
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 1: but like most stuff sounded like a shot. Can we really?

1480
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because you're so deep, but I really want

1481
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 1: to open up. Will Smith therapy. No, no, I'll be

1482
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 1: a therapist too. Yes, you're gonna be the therapist. I

1483
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,640
Speaker 1: can't be. No. I don't know. Man, you gotta get

1484
01:34:51,680 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 1: trained something. You might just throw the problem. That's like,

1485
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah, somebody like struggling with. Somebody thought something that

1486
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: they struggling. You know you you got something, nobody. Yeah,

1487
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 1: come on, step up, cut, come on, come on, come on,

1488
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 1: take up. We've seen real struggle. We've seen it. My

1489
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 1: chicken nuggets weren't that good. Let's go cut dude, you

1490
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 1: gotta stave you step back like shark take Yeah.

1491
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, you me your therapy already. Somebody I'm like up

1492
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 10: with a problem. He's like you back up, back up.

1493
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 10: It's like yo, and you got to make sure you

1494
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 10: you ready for this.

1495
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:48,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on the way here on the right head.

1496
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 1: I lost a friend that I spoke to him Sunday. Damn.

1497
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: Sorry to hear that. Man.

1498
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 7: The last three months I lost five people. Food as

1499
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 7: you get older was closing and you get to look

1500
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 7: around like, damn, friend, how do you deal with that

1501
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 7: older me?

1502
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 1: So you have more exprience. Absolutely, so he got deep.

1503
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 1: I was already a grand grand clothes like anoy, your.

1504
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 10: Celebrity ran open the grand clothing, go to the OUs

1505
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 10: of Joan.

1506
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 1: What we'll say. Yes. So it's funny because I talked

1507
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 1: to Quincy Jones about this, uh you know, he said

1508
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 1: that exact same thing, probably eighteen months ago. I was

1509
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 1: talking to him and he was like, man, I've been

1510
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:53,600
Speaker 1: a funeral every week, you know, and you just you know,

1511
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 1: you just get to that point where that's what it is,

1512
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 1: you know. And he was like, I'm the last one,

1513
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 1: you know. And so part of the idea so death,

1514
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 1: everybody in here is going to die, and before that

1515
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: we're going to experience a series of our loved ones

1516
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:26,879
Speaker 1: at the party. Right. So, reconciling death is the highest

1517
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 1: human difficulty as soon as you can be with So

1518
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 1: for example, my sister was with my father in the

1519
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 1: room in the moment that he died. My sister did

1520
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 1: the makeup on my grandmother in the in the casket, right.

1521
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 1: So but because of that, she's gangster, right, she can

1522
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 1: be with life and all that it has to offer. Right,

1523
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 1: So I would say to you, don't shy away from

1524
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 1: their families, go sit with them, like look with them,

1525
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 1: Like be with what that loss actually means inside of

1526
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 1: a human heart. Like be with it, and you you

1527
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: will break your heart in that. I used to do

1528
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:32,839
Speaker 1: the Make a Wish Foundation and would be dying children

1529
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 1: who their last wishes they wanted to see me. It's crazy,

1530
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: right to like be to be with death is the

1531
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 1: final human reconcile when you can sit and look and

1532
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, I was just I was actually I was

1533
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 1: talking to Gilly, right, and I had to I made

1534
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 1: a confession to to Gilly the other day. I was like, yo,

1535
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 1: when your son died. God bless. I've reached for my

1536
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 1: phone multiple times and I didn't have the courage to

1537
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: call you. Right. It's like death is the hardest there is,

1538
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: Like don't run stand it, Like be with the people

1539
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 1: that are hurting, Be with the people who are suffering.

1540
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 1: There's you can't fix it. Just be able to be

1541
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: with people in that level of pain, right, and it's

1542
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 1: all you can do. It's like we're not we're not

1543
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,720
Speaker 1: in charge of that part. But what we can do

1544
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:38,640
Speaker 1: is love each other through it. That's all we can

1545
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 1: do is be with each other.

1546
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 3: I'll be something because no, no, I say something because again,

1547
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 3: like I witness you downstairs. I see you get out

1548
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 3: of the car, and I've seen the security god, the

1549
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 3: same security god that said hi to me, she said

1550
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 3: hi to you, and you just you just stood there

1551
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 3: and you just open your arms and you just accept

1552
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 3: what life brings you.

1553
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 1: I'm also jealous of that.

1554
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 3: It's because, like I automatically, if someone says up to me,

1555
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't. I don't immediately put you broke

1556
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 3: your hug.

1557
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 1: Excuse me?

1558
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 3: You bring your arms out for a hug, And I

1559
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 3: was like, what the fuck? And I can't think like

1560
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 3: that sometimes, like especially if I'm in the far in place.

1561
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously it's not a foreign place to you.

1562
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 3: But when I jump out and the person says to me, yo,

1563
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 3: what's up, I'm like, what's up. It's like even when

1564
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 3: I jog, like if a person's able up, you got

1565
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 3: to like actually get me out, And I'm like, what up?

1566
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 1: Yo? You know what I mean?

1567
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 3: But you or the accolades or the places you've been,

1568
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 3: as soon as you jump off the car like and

1569
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 3: I do this like for the past nine years. I

1570
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 3: analyze everybody as they get as a car, analyze who

1571
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 3: they talk to, are analyze if they speak to the

1572
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 3: regular individuals, they speak to the orf they want to

1573
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 3: want to come in and get this interview over and done.

1574
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 3: Because we're not a emotional people. We don't we don't

1575
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 3: care about interviewing people when they We care about interviewing

1576
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 3: legends and icons and making sure they iconic legendary Statugyes continues,

1577
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 3: continues and continues to grow.

1578
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 1: But something that was so genuine about you is when

1579
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 1: you jumped up the car you see me, I saw you.

1580
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, this nigga.

1581
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 3: He looked like the wild wild West right now, it's crazy,

1582
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 3: it's crazy, Like this nigga is real.

1583
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 1: It's real.

1584
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 3: And then and then the security guard said, I will

1585
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 3: and she had just did the same exact thing to me,

1586
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 3: and we spoke and you know, I gave her a hug,

1587
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,680
Speaker 3: but your hug was way more genuine in minds, right,

1588
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 3: He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, it was

1589
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 3: real because I was just like, all right, cool, this

1590
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 3: is this lady I gotta talk to to get upstairs

1591
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 3: and maybe I should.

1592
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 1: So I did, and I did it.

1593
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 3: But your hug was like, Okay, I ain't see you

1594
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 3: in a while. And I was like, I don't know

1595
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 3: if you said you see you in a while. Your

1596
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 3: hug said, yeah, you didn't see you in a while.

1597
01:41:56,640 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 3: And then I recollect to what you said to us,

1598
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 3: Welcome to Philly. Yeah, yeah, that's not normal, Ship. Yeah,

1599
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's some.

1600
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 7: It's it is.

1601
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 1: It's new for me.

1602
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 3: I've always been I'm letting y'all know for twenty five

1603
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 3: years we need this is yea brother.

1604
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 1: I told brotherly Love this morning. I'm like, oh, this

1605
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 1: is waw Ship talking about fucking will Smith his brother

1606
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 1: loved twenty five years. Yeah, my bad man. But so

1607
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:43,560
Speaker 1: so what I thought, you know is, you know I

1608
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 1: saw y'all you know, so you know, I greeted everybody,

1609
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 1: and I saw her off on the side of the

1610
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: security guard was like, oh, you know, because Honda, they

1611
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 1: they know each other, they're doing the things. She didn't

1612
01:42:56,280 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 1: want to, like impose. So I was like, no, no, no,

1613
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 1: you safe here, sister, come on in. So I was

1614
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 1: like I wanted her. I could tell it's the end

1615
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 1: of her work day, workshift, she's going home. So in

1616
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:16,160
Speaker 1: my mind I saw her go like that to me

1617
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 1: is the highest she like she saw. So I wanted

1618
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 1: to fan the flames of that energy.

1619
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:26,560
Speaker 3: You know how hard that is to understand human behavior.

1620
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 3: And within that fifteen seconds. Back in the days, we

1621
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 3: could sit there and you could be like, I know

1622
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 3: this guy, and somebody's gonna say, Yo, that's rainbows from

1623
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 3: South Bronx. He's such such so you can actually, but

1624
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 3: now we have fifteen seconds set to see if this

1625
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 3: person is worthy of our time or not. But you

1626
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 3: did it in fucking three well, because everybody's worthy of money, right,

1627
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 3: He wasn't judging it. Yeah, way like there's nobody who's

1628
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 3: not worthy of my time. That is some niggas ain't

1629
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 3: worried my time. You're a much better person than me.

1630
01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:00,600
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. You know who you are. Some

1631
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 1: of you skip your call or purpose. I see you.

1632
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 1: This is me. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Let me take

1633
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 1: a shot. That's hilarious, man.

1634
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:22,680
Speaker 3: But everybody's worth for your time. That's such a beautiful thing, man,

1635
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:26,560
Speaker 3: I promise you. I'm going to try to live, but

1636
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna live like I'm not gonna sit here.

1637
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 1: And lie to you, you know what I'm saying. But

1638
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going I'm going to try my best to

1639
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 1: really feel like everyone is my time because there's certain

1640
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 1: people that like that call me, ask me, are you

1641
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 1: having another monster energy event? That's who you don't follow

1642
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 1: me on Instagram? Like why are you asking me this

1643
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: crazy thing?

1644
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 3: But you you think that everybody not everyone. Most people

1645
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:57,639
Speaker 3: like when you go to target, you speak to people

1646
01:44:58,160 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 3: you're not going to target.

1647
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 1: So so first of all, if you don't know who

1648
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 1: the person is, you can't really how would you know

1649
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 1: they're not worth your time? You can't judge that, Yeah,

1650
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 1: you don't know. And then if you're gonna mess around,

1651
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:16,719
Speaker 1: benefit to look at somebody based on how they dressed

1652
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 1: or something like that, you know, and you know, so

1653
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 1: part of so, part of the revelation that I've had

1654
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 1: in these past couple of years is everything is God right,

1655
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 1: So everything is one thing right. So the idea of

1656
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 1: something being higher and lower, something being good and bad,

1657
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 1: that's a that's a false perception of reality, right, that's

1658
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 1: not that's not a real because you can't you can't

1659
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 1: know what something's going to lead to so even something

1660
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 1: you don't want, even something you don't like, just because

1661
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 1: you don't like it doesn't make it wrong, and just

1662
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 1: because you like it doesn't make it right. Right, So

1663
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 1: you you actually you can't know, You literally can't know

1664
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 1: what the future is. You can't know if we're gonna

1665
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:19,560
Speaker 1: go downstairs after that and you're gonna be lunching and

1666
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 1: walk out in the street and that girl grabs you.

1667
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 1: Better not be my wife right there, right right, you know.

1668
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 1: But it's like like, you know, don't give me no,

1669
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: no no. If my wife there and I'm walking down

1670
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 1: the street, that girl need to let me get hit

1671
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 1: and put your hands on me later, you know. But

1672
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 1: you can't you we don't. You don't know what's gonna happen, right,

1673
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't know what when you're gonna cross

1674
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 1: somebody's path again or something. My grandmother said something to

1675
01:46:58,000 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 1: me when we first got on the tour bus for me,

1676
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 1: Jeff Willie, this is your first tour, first tour period, yes,

1677
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 1: like you know, nineteen eighty eight or something like that,

1678
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:10,879
Speaker 1: first time getting on a tour bus and my grandmother

1679
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 1: said we're getting on, said bye, baby, she said she says, okay, baby,

1680
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 1: just remember everywhere you go. One day you're gonna have

1681
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 1: to go there again. This is a grandmother that was

1682
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 1: sitting next to you during the on the now that

1683
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,759
Speaker 1: was my mother. That was my mother. Yeah, my grandma,

1684
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 1: my grandmother, she passed. Let the grandmother that found the

1685
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 1: curse curse work. I found that. That's why you don't

1686
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 1: really curse that. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, you let other

1687
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 1: people curse on this out. No. Yeah, you think that

1688
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 1: you ain't curse, but you let the nigga. Okay, he's smart.

1689
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 1: A cursing character characters another person acting, so it's different.

1690
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 1: I gotta learn this acting shit. Yeah, that's my goal.

1691
01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm going to Will Smith act in class,

1692
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 3: going to Will's. If there are people me and you

1693
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:08,040
Speaker 3: are a partner, Will will send yes, Will Smith network,

1694
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 3: but it's really don't let nobody know that, yes, your partner,

1695
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 3: sil secrecy. Will Let me just tell you something, man,

1696
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 3: I really respect you.

1697
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:21,520
Speaker 1: I really.

1698
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 3: Once you understand that you laid the blueprint for every

1699
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 3: rapper who wanted to be something more than a rapper,

1700
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 3: because rapper was the quintessential level to where we wanted

1701
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:36,640
Speaker 3: to get at At one point let me take off

1702
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 3: my glass to like a Macaolmax.

1703
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: But then you hugged Uncle Phil, and then you you

1704
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 1: brung gangsters.

1705
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 3: Regular people, street people, people who pack bags and wall bounds,

1706
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 3: people who deliver food for six brothers. You bring them

1707
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,560
Speaker 3: all together because everyone had that little missing part of

1708
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 3: their heart, whether they had a father or they didn't

1709
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 3: have a father, they had something that was missing in

1710
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 3: their heart. They did that. Then you went on and

1711
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 3: then you conker. One of my favorite movies the all

1712
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 3: time is Enemy of the State. You know what Enemy

1713
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 3: of the stated? You remember that?

1714
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 1: I remember that one. That one I was there, look

1715
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 1: at me, look like because because I asked you earlier, what.

1716
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:38,600
Speaker 3: Was your most serious role? And to me it was

1717
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 3: Independence Day? You and vivocat together. That that was That

1718
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,080
Speaker 3: was too like the black actors. They put you all

1719
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 3: together and independent that Yeah, that was crazy. July fourth

1720
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 3: was different. Yes, big, okay, that's what it was.

1721
01:49:56,160 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 1: I was I'm like, year was that ninety six? That

1722
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 1: I can explain? It's cooled d what jail? Yes, you

1723
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 1: can explain. Yeah, but.

1724
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:27,639
Speaker 3: Now listen told you bouncing around? Yes, now I realized

1725
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 3: that you and Michael B.

1726
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 1: Jordan is out of line, out of line, out of line,

1727
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 1: out of line. He's going to explain in a second, everybody,

1728
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 1: and I am legend died. How the fun is the

1729
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 1: part too? All right, coach? So hold on, by the way,

1730
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 1: I want to I can explain to a war or something,

1731
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 1: all right. So there was there was a there was

1732
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 1: an alternate ending that came out on the d v D.

1733
01:50:56,360 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 1: I got ye in the alternate ending, my character Liz. Listen,

1734
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:06,680
Speaker 1: ye seating right now, but I respect it. Listen. Oh yeah,

1735
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 1: and I hadn't bring this. I wanted you to say this.

1736
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:11,680
Speaker 1: Oh I believe you with that. No, you can't have it.

1737
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 1: You can't have it, but I just want you to

1738
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 1: because about it. Take a picture, well, let's take the

1739
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 1: figure with I want one bulf Okay, I'm sorry, I

1740
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 1: don't want to do that, but get yeah, so I

1741
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,800
Speaker 1: am letting you yeah, no, no, no, you see how

1742
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:30,759
Speaker 1: he was with this, yeah.

1743
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 3: Case listen when when e f N he has like

1744
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 3: little takes yeah right here yea. By the way, if

1745
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:41,679
Speaker 3: you touch his take, even though this is your tape,

1746
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 3: it's my it's your music, get pause. That's it too much.

1747
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 3: Watch watch how you.

1748
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw away into your wills.

1749
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 3: Okay, So she was throwing that like this, and he's

1750
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 3: talking like this. It feels like, calm down, guy, But

1751
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:05,680
Speaker 3: I am lesgend. I'm gonna be honest with us. I

1752
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 3: watched all your movies bad boys every day. I did

1753
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:13,720
Speaker 3: watch that alternate ending. Yeah, but I also realized I

1754
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 3: was making up a bag like let's get another bad No. No,

1755
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 3: you misread it, you miss read It's me. Let me

1756
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 3: tell you, let me tell you the truth.

1757
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: Let's go. So, here's the truth of what happened, all right,

1758
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 1: the ultimate see what had happened was what happened. So

1759
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 1: the alternate ending was the first ending, the original It

1760
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:33,640
Speaker 1: was the original ending, was the original script, and it

1761
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 1: was based on the original novel. We tested it and

1762
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 1: it was the only movie I've ever had that the

1763
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 1: audience booed at the end, at the end of that

1764
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 1: ending when the so in the in the final scene

1765
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 1: where they come in and there around me and the

1766
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 1: alternate ending and the the Dark Seeker, what we realized

1767
01:52:56,360 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 1: and the alternate ending is that he realizes the one

1768
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 1: that I was keeping in the room was his woman.

1769
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 1: And I realized it was his woman, and he was like,

1770
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 1: you know, the meaning of the ending was, oh shit,

1771
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm the monster. They think of me as the monster, right,

1772
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 1: And we looked up at the wall and we do

1773
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 1: the shot up at the wall, and you see how

1774
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 1: many of them I killed? And he looks at them

1775
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 1: and looks at them, and he looks at me and

1776
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 1: then he goes in and gets his woman and leaves. Right.

1777
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: So that was the alternate ending. We tested it and

1778
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:37,600
Speaker 1: the only so how they do these things is they

1779
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 1: put it in front of an audience. You know, you

1780
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 1: get a couple hundred people. They fill it out, and

1781
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 1: you fill out you know, there's five boxes and you

1782
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:50,560
Speaker 1: say either excellent, very good, good, poor, very poor. And

1783
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,679
Speaker 1: what they do is they take the top two boxes

1784
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 1: and if you score, you know, ninety percent in the

1785
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 1: top two boxes excellent and very good, you're pretty sure

1786
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:05,919
Speaker 1: you have a good movie. It was the lowest scoring

1787
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 1: movie I've ever ending. So they score the whole movie,

1788
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,600
Speaker 1: but it was because of the ending ending, okay, and

1789
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:16,680
Speaker 1: it scored fifty one in the top two boxes, and

1790
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 1: we were like what So then then they fill out

1791
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 1: the thing and it was like basically across the board,

1792
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 1: it was like the ending is bullshit, that's bullshit. He's

1793
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 1: not the monster. They're dark seekers. They've been chasing them,

1794
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 1: and there was something that was just horrific except they could.

1795
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: They was like, no, you're not the monster. We didn't

1796
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 1: watch this whole movie to figure out that you're the monster. No,

1797
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 1: they're the monsters. So they felt cheated. So six weeks

1798
01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 1: before the movie comes out, we had to reshoot the

1799
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 1: ending that was actually in the movies where my character died.

1800
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 1: That's in New York City where you wasn't here. Yeah, right,

1801
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 1: so where where my character dies in the end actually

1802
01:54:56,040 --> 01:55:00,120
Speaker 1: is the alternate ending, right, So it's the it's the

1803
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 1: alternate ending. But we we were faithful to the novel

1804
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 1: in the in the previous ones. So when we did

1805
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 1: the new ending, it scored ninety one in the top

1806
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 1: two boxes, and it was like, it's just one of

1807
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 1: them weird things that happens. It was like, how much

1808
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 1: does that say about us? As I know? Right? Yeah?

1809
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 1: Humor yet watching that No, but it was it was,

1810
01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 1: it was It was like a major save. We saved

1811
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 1: it because people, the audiences hated it, right, but it

1812
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 1: was what we originally wanted to do. So we were like, well,

1813
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 1: we we shot. You know, it was probably an eight

1814
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 1: million dollar ending that got scrapped. Wow, right, because we

1815
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 1: were special effects and all of that stuff in it.

1816
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 1: So well, so we ultimately we were like, well, we

1817
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 1: got to use it. We got to use it somewhere.

1818
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:49,000
Speaker 1: So we put it on the DVD, on the DVD

1819
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 1: and Blu ray, so people saw it, so it popped

1820
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 1: up online and all of that. And then later the

1821
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:58,760
Speaker 1: writer Akiva Goldsman, he's the Academy Award winning writer of

1822
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 1: a Beautiful Mind, and so he's like, hey, what if

1823
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 1: we made another one? What we were going to do

1824
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 1: is the prequel, So we were going to do the prequel.

1825
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 1: What happened before, So we were going to go back

1826
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 1: and do the prequel. And he was like, but wait,

1827
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 1: what if we make a new version from the alternate

1828
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 1: ending where your character is still alive? And you know,

1829
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:26,760
Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan's character currently is the head of a

1830
01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 1: new settlement. So he's not your son, he's not my son,

1831
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 1: not my son, not my son, my dark seeker son.

1832
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 1: Well he's an evil right.

1833
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 3: But no, so uh well, no, I can't tell you

1834
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 3: to movie, give me like a long nobody watching this ship. Yeah,

1835
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 3: right right now. Just want to people that I am

1836
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 3: legend fans like me and I love the fact that

1837
01:56:58,440 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 3: we're doing the number two.

1838
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 1: But he said we we do, we do. I love

1839
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 1: to be doing another one. Will you know? You said

1840
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:12,760
Speaker 1: we you know? We we do? We knew well, but

1841
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 1: I love the fact that you do.

1842
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 3: But I wanted it so so for people that's fast

1843
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 3: like me, make it makes sense for them. Tell them

1844
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 3: that you we got we had d N A left over.

1845
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 3: Michael B.

1846
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 1: Jordan is coming out DNA left off just making up ship. Yeah,

1847
01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 1: I thought you you established that.

1848
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:33,920
Speaker 3: But that's that there's not d NA. How does Michael B.

1849
01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 3: Jordan come to assistance? Does a dog eat him?

1850
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:42,760
Speaker 1: No? No, the dog there's a dog practically, I'm so

1851
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 1: when he was jogging and I am like other people. Adult,

1852
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 1: You're not doing a good job selling this movie right now.

1853
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm not telling Michael George's movie. No, this is your

1854
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 1: new social media get him over here. No, no, no,

1855
01:57:57,600 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 1: it's really it's a it's a it's a cool concept.

1856
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 1: So uh or currently Michael Be's uh character is the

1857
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 1: head of a settlement.

1858
01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 3: So there's a settlement in Connecticut. Right I'm gonna be

1859
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:13,720
Speaker 3: honest will is the settlement is no judges. There's no

1860
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:15,640
Speaker 3: nobody in the pregnant.

1861
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 1: So you're gonna you're not gonna watch it, or you're

1862
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:23,960
Speaker 1: just gonna watch everybody dead. Everybody's not dead your life.

1863
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:26,320
Speaker 1: So there's other people. You saw the girl and the

1864
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:33,720
Speaker 1: little boy. Take it to the shot, last last shot.

1865
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna get your flowers. We get you up there.

1866
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 1: You think you will, I know you got you. We

1867
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 1: go us. There's slow time of life. Thank you man, Hey,

1868
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 1: listen man, thank you man. This was fantastic.

1869
01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 3: Please have listen man, come have form with us anytime you.

1870
01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 1: You own Miami, Miami, Please please in Miami for sure.

1871
01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 1: You know that's my town. Yeah, come by hang out.

1872
01:58:57,480 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 3: It was beautiful for us to come hang out with

1873
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 3: you Andiladelphia, because one Philadelphia is a town I couldn't

1874
01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 3: as soon as as soon as I landed, I thought

1875
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:10,560
Speaker 3: of trading places immediately and I couldn't realize why. And

1876
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,680
Speaker 3: I realized that actually trading places happened here. But let

1877
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 3: me get back to the point. Well, because of my

1878
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 3: man Lex man, you know what I mean, big up

1879
01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 3: to your whole team being so I mean, they were

1880
01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 3: so official, so efficient.

1881
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:26,800
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm making sense, but get it.

1882
01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:29,200
Speaker 3: And they were so great, and I just want to

1883
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:32,160
Speaker 3: thank you so much because so many great people like

1884
01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:36,440
Speaker 3: you have a terrible team, and then so many people

1885
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:40,080
Speaker 3: have a great team and then they're terrible people.

1886
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:42,560
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you actually got some shit worked out.

1887
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:46,160
Speaker 3: Like I mean, for nine years of me dealing with

1888
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 3: every artist from fifty said to you, name him, I

1889
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 3: don't want to keep name dropping. I'm telling you this

1890
01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 3: is purely a pleasure for me. Your album is fucking awesome.

1891
01:59:57,920 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie.

1892
01:59:58,560 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1893
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:00,960
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to say this, but I was listening to

1894
02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 3: it like there's no way he could still be this hungry.

1895
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 3: So I was actually listening to it for a flaw

1896
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:08,480
Speaker 3: and I didn't fly in one. And the thing about

1897
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:10,080
Speaker 3: it is, I want to salute you for that. I

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Speaker 3: want you to know that you appreciate it. I want

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Speaker 3: you to know everything that you did because in a

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Speaker 3: certain way, had you not rapped and went to Sitcom,

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Speaker 3: from sitcom to movies and then dominated all these worlds,

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Speaker 3: we wouldn't have had that from us. He's a DJ, me,

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Speaker 3: a rapper, us to go to podcast, so in a

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Speaker 3: lot of ways. You might own Drink Chances, but we

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Speaker 3: could do a deal for Old Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: You know your part of it. We thank you, man.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you man for taking your time out. And

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Speaker 3: I just want to say something before this is all up.

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Speaker 3: He didn't ask me to say this, lexing next me

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Speaker 3: say this. No one asked me to say this. This

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Speaker 3: might be one of his best albums.

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Speaker 1: I love that. No what do y'all say? I'm not glazing.

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Speaker 1: No cat, no cat, no, no can't no blazer listens.

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Speaker 3: Listen to that ship and I'm gonna tell you this

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Speaker 3: just in case. And by the way, he did not

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Speaker 3: tell me this. Listen to the first two tracks.

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Speaker 1: If you're not.

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Speaker 3: Intrigued, adapted, and want to continue for the first two traps.

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Speaker 3: First two tracks, excuse me, You're not human.

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Speaker 1: That's it, and you can be an I am legends.

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Speaker 4: Drink Champs is a Drink Champs ll C production hosts

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Speaker 4: and executive producers n O.

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Speaker 1: R E and d J. E. F f N. Listen

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Speaker 4: Champs on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you

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Speaker 4: get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another episode

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