1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Yes, he's talented. We all knew that. What though didn't 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: we know about Marvin Harrison Junior? Welcome Bird Gang. On 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: today's show, Zach Kershman joins me and HJ is the focus. 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: How's he fitting in? What's his presence mean on the field? 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: What his teammates have to say? Also, flight Plan is back. 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, episode seven sixty five and it 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: starts now. 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: Buda Baker, What Heart? 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: What rent? 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable? 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again? 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: Some more Hurry magic. 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Griolo. 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Have to begin with this because one I think it's 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: a very cool events and two, while Zach, you were 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: at this event and that is the Civics Matter Third 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Annual trip to Washington, d C. Partnership with the Close 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: Up Foundation and the Governor's Office. As far as sending 23 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: high school students almost three hundred two seventy five to 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: be exact, but sending them to DC on the Arizona 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: Cardinals team playing. This is an initiative that owner Michael 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: Bidwell set forth a couple of years back, and one's 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: very cool because I'm a lot jealous because if I 28 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: was a high school student, I'd jump at the chance 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: to be able to go to our nation's capital and 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: then get to meet and see some of the inner 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: workings of our government in action. 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: A lot of the times for these kids it was 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: their first time on a plane and what a way 34 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: to fly in style across the country to go to 35 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: your go to the nation's capital in Washington, d C. 36 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: Speak to a lot of different senators and congressmen and 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: congress women. They heard from the governor who talked about 38 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: when she was around their age. She heard from the 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: Secretary of State and that's what inspired her to start 40 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: getting into the political atmosphere and go into that venue 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: and that sort of interest. And a lot of these kids, 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: as Michael Bidwell told me, they are our future and 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: they might not necessarily be old enough to vote, and 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: that's something that they wanted to point out. This is 45 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: the first time. It's the third annual trip, but it's 46 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: the first time that happens during an election year, and 47 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: without getting into the politics behind that, it inspires a 48 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: lot of these kids to pay more attention to it. 49 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: They might not necessarily be able to put a vote 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: in in the ballots right now, but there are still 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: a lot of ways that they're able to make an impact. 52 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: So the way that they got accepted to this trip 53 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: to be a part of this program Civics Matters Arizona 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: with the Close Up Foundation, Governor Hobb's office and with 55 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals and Michael Bidwell was by putting in 56 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: an essay response talking about something political, something civics engagement initiatives, 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: stuff that they could do to make an impact, and 58 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: a lot of the responses were truly remarkable. 59 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: It's a great story up on Acycardinals dot com. And 60 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: your point as far as the excitement level with these 61 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: students from across the states, first time on the plane, 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: maybe first time leaving the state of Arizona period, and 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: you're getting this unique experience. 64 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think to have an NFL team 65 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: in your corner as a high school student is pretty cool. 66 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: To literally have a hands on experience in a one 67 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: on one interaction with the owner of the Arizona Cardinals 68 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: with the Arizona Cardinals team plane. It looks cool by 69 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: the photos, but then once you're able to say, oh, well, 70 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: I actually sat in that plane. I flew across the country. Heck, 71 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: I even took my first ever flight with the Arizona 72 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: Cardinals team plane. A lot of these kids were excited. 73 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: Nearly forty different schools were represented in this program. Two 74 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five students have the chance to go 75 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: to Arizona, and I know that they're living it up 76 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: right now. I'm definitely sure of that. 77 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Wow, how many of the students on this trip know 78 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: and can use the word perspicacious correctly as Michael Wilson 79 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: did this week. And this is our transition from civics 80 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: matters to the wide receiver position. 81 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: They're one in one, they go hand in hand. 82 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: Oh I bet you. There were more people that you 83 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: spoke to and we're interacting with on Wednesday morning at 84 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: Sky Harbor Airport than there were here at the Dignity 85 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: Health Arizona Cardinals Training Center during that press conference. 86 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: Well that's because once the press conference ended, to confirm 87 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: that we all looked at one another, all the members 88 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 3: of the media and said what did he just say? 89 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: And we even just asked Michael Wilson at the end 90 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: of that, like what we think you might be the 91 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: first ever player to use that word that I can't 92 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: even pronounce in a press conference room. And Marvin said, 93 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: Marvid's like, I got no clue what that means, but 94 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: it's awesome. So Michael Wilson, good, good, good use of 95 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: the word. 96 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: The definition notices understands things quickly, and that's what Michael 97 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: Wilson response, and he said it so matter of fact 98 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: when asked about MHJ on the field, off the field, 99 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: and yeah, the talent is there, but he's just very 100 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: perspicacious and always seeking information, very self aware. And we're like, what, 101 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: but again, Stanford education, Hey, it beats what the education 102 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: I got if you're putting that word out there and 103 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: just casual conversation, and you mentioned Marvin's response and not 104 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: knowing exactly what it meant, it was just, hey, it's 105 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: don't know what it means, but it's awesome. So but 106 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: it did fit because that is Marvin Harrison Junior. He 107 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: is coming in here. Yes, the talent off the charts. 108 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: We all know that we've seen it. But what we 109 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: don't see and our learning now is the details the 110 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: work he puts in away from the cameras in the classroom, 111 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: out on the practice field, and I think that is 112 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: what's got everyone the fan base excited and his his 113 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: teammates excited as well. 114 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 3: Look, we heard all about the work ethic that Marvin 115 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: Harrison Junior could bring to the table during the draft process, 116 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: but that could bring to the table now. It's what 117 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: he is bringing to the table. What he is bringing 118 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 3: to that room, the value of having that lineage of 119 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 3: playing of his father playing in the NFL, the type 120 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: of information that he was able to learn from his 121 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: father that he's able to bring here, and also just 122 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: by learning himself. He was in a wide receiver room 123 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 3: with a lot of talented players down in Columbus that 124 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: are all throughout the league right now at the Chris Olavees, 125 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: the Garret Wilson's, the Jackson Smith and Jigobus, they're they're 126 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: all they're all over the NFL and they're all doing 127 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: quite well for themselves. Marvin Harrison Junior was number four 128 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 3: in that room, and he started to earn his way up. 129 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 3: He started to earn his keeps during his time in Columbus, 130 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: just like how it's been here with the Arizona Cardinals. 131 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: He came in as a rookie only a few months ago. 132 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: He still is a rookie, but he's starting to earn 133 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: his keeps a little bit more as training camp and 134 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: now Mini camp has officially come to a close. 135 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: We had not heard from Marvin since the draft before Wednesday, 136 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: and to hear him now as a professional athlete, it's 137 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: no different than what you heard from him as a 138 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: college athlete. Very respectful, very humble. He seems very self 139 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: aware of where he is, who he is, but also 140 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: understanding that he has to earn the trust of his teammates, 141 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: the trust of his coaches, and mentioned that, yeah, quote, 142 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: I didn't want to come in here with a big 143 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: head end quote. Now, we all know athletes, whatever profession 144 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: it is, come in when you're that highly selected in 145 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: the draft or highly paid, well, there's an aura about you. 146 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: And I do believe that there is an aura around 147 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior. But he doesn't carry himself like that, 148 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: and I think that is the most impressive so far 149 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: that I've seen. Before we get to on field play 150 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: in September. 151 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: He's just such a normal dude. And I think when 152 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: people look at Marvin, they kind of expect to see 153 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: this robot godlike figure, and he's a regular guy. Yes, 154 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: he's media trained, he knows what to say, he knows 155 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 3: the proper things to say. He's not going to get 156 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: too into the details about his life. It's going to 157 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: be football in the x's and o's, and then everything 158 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: else will be kept in the private light. That's Marvin. 159 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: But I think just I like the term aura because 160 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: that's something that the fan base has used in the 161 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 3: comments section on so many posts related to Marvin Harrison Junior, 162 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: because that is what would you see. But on the 163 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 3: field and in the locker room, he's just a regular 164 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: dude to these guys. I've been able to see through 165 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: a couple of different community service events, him being at 166 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: the Phoenix Children's Hospital with all of his other rookies. 167 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: He's just a regular guy walking around the walking around 168 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: the locker room. But when you are that special still 169 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: as a player, and you could be a regular guy 170 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: off the field, the name and the talent, he doesn't 171 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: need to brag, he doesn't need to overcompensate in one 172 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: area to cover up for another area. He's got the 173 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: talent on the field and he's just a good dude 174 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: off of it. You mentioned the flag football. There was 175 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 3: the special Olympics camp later this week. Not only Marvin 176 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: Harrison Junior, but the entire rookie class will be at 177 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks game when they host the Angels earlier in 178 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: the day, a appearance at the United Food Bank, and 179 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: that was another aspect, and we'll get to the on 180 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: field what we think is what Marvin can bring to 181 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: this team. But that was the other thing that struck 182 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: me listening to Marvin speak was just how much fun 183 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: he's having getting to know his fellow rookies, not just 184 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: the draft class, but the entire fifteen rookies that are 185 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: on this team at this moment, and everyone is included. 186 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: It's not like, well, I'm a first round pick and 187 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: I get to do this. No, they're all doing this together. 188 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: And I do find it genuine and organic that not 189 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: only Marvin, but also when we heard from Darius Robinson 190 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: that they're enjoying this because these players, the twelve players 191 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: in the draft class, fifteen overall as far as drafted 192 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 3: rookie free agents, they're all tied together. They have a 193 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: unique bond. Now we'll all fifteen be here in September, 194 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 3: who knows, but they have all they're all sharing this 195 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: experience right now, and I think that's very awesome to 196 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: not only see what we've seen so far on social media, 197 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: but then just to hear it as well from certain 198 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: players on the field. They're always going to be coupled together. 199 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: Like I asked Michael Wilson about his twenty twenty three 200 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: rookie class, Paris Johnson Junior, b Joe Jalari, himself, Garrett Williams, 201 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: all these different players, keytro Clark earning a lot of 202 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: meaningful snaps early on in the year. And I asked him, like, 203 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: are you surprised to see the type of impact that 204 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 3: your class was able to make? And He's like, surprised, no, 205 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: because I know the type of people that we have. 206 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: But when we talk about Michael Wilson's success as a rookie, 207 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: you start to think about Paris Johnson Junior success as 208 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: a rookie, b Joe Jalari's emergence towards the latter half 209 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 3: of the season. It's they're always going to be coupled 210 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: in together. And when you have a draft class the 211 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 3: size that the Cardinals do right now, you have a 212 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: lot of room to have play be successful and be 213 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: dominant on the field that elevate and dominate mentality. And 214 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: that's why you could have a Darius Robinson, a Marvin 215 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: Harrison Junior all the way up to a Tejon Palmer 216 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 3: and a Jaden Davis that could make an impact and 217 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: their their story is always going to be linked to 218 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 3: this twenty twenty four rookie draft class when you do 219 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: have a headline talent like Marvin Harrison Junior, but no 220 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: matter what, they're always going to be linked together. And yeah, 221 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: they are having a lot of fun in these community events. 222 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: When they're able to do and bond together, that type 223 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: of stuff translates on the field more than people even realize. 224 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: And you'll be at that game on Thursday with the 225 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: story on Azycardinals dot Com. 226 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: I'm prepared to throw out the first pitch that's needed. 227 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna stretch ahead of time and if they know, 228 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: if Tory Leavello gives me the call, I'll be there. 229 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: I don't think we'll have to worry about that. 230 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: On Once again, there are fifteen other players ahead of me. 231 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: That should get that, that should get that. 232 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: You are way down that list. Speaking of lists, did 233 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: you happen to catch this? On NFL dot com, they 234 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: ranked the best new quarterback wide receiver combos two different 235 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: categories veteran combos, meaning whether it's a new quarterback, a 236 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: veteran and a new team with a veteran wide receiver 237 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: or wide receiver on a new team. But the focus 238 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: here that we want to talk about is the rookies 239 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: and the veteran rookie combo, whether that's a rookie quarterback 240 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: and a veteran wide receiver or a veteran quarterback and 241 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: a rookie wide receiver. Who has what are those combos rank? 242 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: And number one to no surprise, as far as the 243 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: rookie veteran combos is Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison. I 244 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: don't think there's any debate about it. The others on 245 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: the list, just for argument's sake, Caleb Williams, Roumadoonzay, Josh Allen, 246 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: Kean Coleman, JJ McCarthy, Justin Jefferson, Jaden Daniels, and Terry McLaurin. 247 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: So those were the top five, But when you talk 248 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: about quarterback wide receiver totality. I don't think there is 249 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: a rookie wide receiver in a better situation to have 250 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback like Kyler to throw him the football than MHJ. 251 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: And I do think the expectations of one thousand yard season, 252 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: eleven hundred yard season, twelve hundred yard season, that's realistic 253 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: to have here in the month of June. 254 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's a surprise to see the Cardinals 255 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 3: at number one there with Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior. 256 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: If you look at some of the previous lists that 257 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: I know Paul Calvic talks about to the uptenth degree 258 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: on Cardinals Underground, there's always a new list where it 259 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: seems like the Cardinals are being disrespected or not being 260 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: acknowledged nearly high enough. And in this case, it is 261 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: good to see them at number one because I feel 262 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: like in most cases I wouldn't be surprised to see 263 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: a JJ McCarthy and Justin Jefferson at the top of 264 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 3: these lists because we know the type of reputation the 265 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: Cardinals have in the eyes of the national media. They're 266 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: not necessarily the top team that they focus on, but 267 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: once you're able to put together a duo like Kyler 268 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior, you better earn that respect, 269 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 3: and they are getting the respect right now, rightfully, So 270 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: that is a duo that you talk about the goals 271 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: potentially of a thousand yard seasons and whatnot. While Marvin 272 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily he told me he doesn't necessarily have a 273 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: number that he's shooting for, you know that it's going 274 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 3: to be in that range because of the type of 275 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: talent that he brings to the table and automatically, defenses 276 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: are going to be aware of where number eighteen is 277 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: on the field because they are going to be aware 278 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: of the chemistry that he has between number one and 279 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: one and eighteen. And then that also opens up the 280 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: entire offense for Michael Wilson again involved the Trey McBride 281 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: to get involved with Greg dors. But that connection between 282 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: Kyler and Marvin Harrison Junior, you saw it on draft Day, 283 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: which is how pumped Kyler Murray was to welcome MSJ 284 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: to the program, to welcome into the organization. Now that 285 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: hopefully will translate to the field on Sundays. But they 286 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: did say that they have been getting in work off 287 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: the field, off campus, and that type of stuff is 288 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: important to start working on early on. 289 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: No individual goals, according to Marvin Harrison Junior, just wants 290 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: to help the team win. Well, I'll argue that his 291 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: presence alone on the field will help the team win 292 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: because for the first time in a long time since 293 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, this team now has a bona fide number 294 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: one wide receiver. What do I mean by that, someone 295 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: that is going to dictate coverage. The defense is gonna 296 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: have to be aware of where number nineteen, excuse me, 297 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: number eighteen is on the football field. Yeah, he's got 298 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: all the measurables, he's got all the skill sets. But 299 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: with a Marvin Harrison Junior on one side of the field, 300 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: then that opens up the middle of the field, opens 301 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: up the other side of the field because now defense 302 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: is most likely give it a couple of weeks, there'll 303 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: start looking at eighteen figuring, all right, we're gonna stop 304 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: him and try Michael Wilson, you're gonna have to beat us. 305 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: Greg Dortsch, you're gonna have to beat us as far 306 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: as wide receivers are concerned. But this is something that 307 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: I remember at the end of last season, specifically the 308 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers game that second meeting coming 309 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: out of that game and wanting to see the Cardinals 310 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: this offseason. Address two needs specifically one pass rush because 311 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: that forty nine Ers defense is very, very good. And 312 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: then two wide receiver, a number one wide receiver, someone 313 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: that you could go to on third and long knowing 314 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: that it's either gonna be a first down or incompletion 315 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: because you're not going to get that ball intercepted red zone. 316 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: Someone you can throw the ball up to, or someone 317 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: you can trust that is going to bring that ball 318 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: down even though it might not be perfectly thrown. And 319 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: I think so far again, OTA's mini camp, not full speed, 320 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: not pads, but we have seen some of those contested catches, 321 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: some of those acrobatic catches from Marvin that are like, Okay, yes, 322 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: I can see this translating it now into the regular season. 323 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: K One said it best. Even when Marvin's not opened, 324 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: he's going to be open because he has the ability 325 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: to leap up and make the snag and truly massa 326 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: defender for a lack of a better term, because he 327 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: does have that ability to go up in the air 328 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: and make a big time play. But that also opens up, 329 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: as we talked about the offense, for a Michael Wilson 330 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: to go up and make a play. Michael Wilson's a 331 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 3: big body. He could still go up and make it 332 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: and make a play. It is funny because I was 333 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: thinking back to that San Francisco forty nine Ers game 334 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: when you were talking about it. That was right around 335 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: the time that the national narrative started to focus on 336 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: Trey McBride. What trade McBride is actually bringing to the 337 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 3: Cardinals team. He already had a few good weeks and 338 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 3: that in the system with Kyler Murray a few weeks 339 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: after the Atlanta game where it was truly the breakout 340 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 3: for both K one and for Trey McBride, and you 341 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: couldn't really necessarily see You saw a little bit of 342 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: glimpses from Greg Dortch and Rondell Moore here and there, 343 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: but there wasn't that true number two. You knew your 344 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 3: number one target was Trey McBride, but you didn't really 345 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 3: have that number two. Hollywood Brown wasn't making as much 346 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 3: of an impact as he was dealing with that heel injury, 347 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 3: so you were wondering, where's the depth and now you 348 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: have that here where you have Marvin Harrison Junior and 349 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 3: all the different players that we just lit off because 350 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 3: the offense will allow it to fully open up. And 351 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: you can't forget about the dominant run game that they 352 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: do have already a top five run game, because the 353 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: run game is going to open up the pass game 354 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: and vice versa. 355 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals leading receiver last season, receiver, not pass catcher. Pass 356 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: catcher was Trey McBride. Leading receiver last season Hollywood Brown 357 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: five hundred and seventy four yards. Now, he was hurt 358 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: for much of the season part of the season, but 359 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: the last time that this Arizona Cardinals franchise has had 360 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: a player reach one thousand receiving yards was in twenty 361 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: twenty d Hot the only time in the past six 362 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: seasons that this franchise has had a one thousand yard 363 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: receiver regardless of position, whether that's tight end or running back. 364 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: That I think is the next step for this offense 365 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: to be considered among the better ones among the elite. 366 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: Do you have that go to wide receiver and get 367 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: you ninety five yards on a consistent basis week in 368 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: and week out, and then to your point, open up 369 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: things for everyone else, whether that's on the opposite side, 370 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: whether that's in the middle of the field, underneath, or 371 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, James Connor finds more room to 372 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: run because defenders in the secondary are closer to the 373 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, but they're outside the box, and now 374 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: Connor or Trey Benson or Michael Carter or whomever, Kyler 375 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: Murray can now weave their way because there's less obstacles 376 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: in front. 377 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: Of course, the defense has to be aware of so 378 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 3: many different variables on the offense. And I think when 379 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray was on the radio and he called Drew 380 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: Petsing a genius, that type of stuff you hear from 381 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: your quarterback that should not go unnoticed. That is something 382 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 3: very important in the chemistry that he has, in the 383 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 3: relationship he has with his offensive coordinator, his quarterbacks coach, 384 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: Isy wolfork with Jonathan Gann and texting him on the 385 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: weekend about different things that he's seen. When JG's just 386 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: trying to, you know, hang out and just trying to 387 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: relax a little bit, k One is trying to find 388 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: ways to always get better, and that opens up the 389 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 3: offense as a whole. But is it crazy correct to 390 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: even think that there could be two one thousand yard 391 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 3: receivers here because the offense is going to be so 392 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 3: the defense rather is going to be so focused on 393 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior, especially early on in the season, that 394 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: that will allow a Michael Wilson to grow. We saw 395 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 3: the big time plays we saw from Greg Dortch. Now 396 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 3: I'm not saying Greg Dortch is going to be your 397 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: second one thousand yard receiver. That's assuming Marvin Harrison does 398 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: eclipse one thousand, but he could definitely, you know, have 399 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 3: a similar half to as he had towards the latter 400 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 3: half of the season in the game against the Bears 401 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: and the Eagles, those big time explosive plays from number four. 402 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: Now you could open up the offense a little bit 403 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: with a guy like that as well and possibly have 404 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: multiple one thousand yard options. 405 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: Could be Trey McBride. As it tied end. But since 406 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: you brought up Michael Wilson had a chance to hear 407 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: from him on Wednesday as well and just how much 408 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: he is looking forward to learning from Marvin and then 409 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: also teach Marvin whatever Marvin might need to know about 410 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: the NFL level. But to hear Michael Wilson talk about 411 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: the offseason this year versus last year and how it's 412 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: night and day and his body feels great, and the 413 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: offense the game has slowed down for him, but he 414 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: wants and he has an interesting goal. The six catches 415 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: for ninety five yards he had against the Seattle Seahawks 416 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: in Week eighteen. Quote those games are he hopes are 417 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: quote very frequent and regularly occurring this year. Great goal. 418 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: And I think on the surface, six catches for ninety 419 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: five yards. Six catches doesn't sound like a lot. Ninety 420 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: five yards though, does But when I see or hear 421 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: six catches for ninety five yards, to me, I'm automatically thinking, 422 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: all right, that's more on Michael Wilson, because I'm thinking 423 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: yards after contact, yards after catch. What do you do 424 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: when you get those six catches. It's not just turn around, 425 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: catch the ball and you're down. It's turn around, catch 426 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: the ball, or catch the ball you're on the stride. 427 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: And then getting an additional ten to fifteen yards to 428 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: help that off get closer and closer into the end zone. 429 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 3: Especially and we'll talk about the kickoff in a little bit, 430 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: but especially with field position that that could potentially change 431 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: the game for what this offense is going to look like, 432 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 3: depending on where the receiving team. If the Cardinals are 433 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: going on offense does take the ball, what yard line 434 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: do they go to? Because the field is going to 435 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 3: shrink a lot more on their way towards the other 436 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 3: half of the field. But that's six for ninety five. 437 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 3: That is very formidable, and it's very possible. And if 438 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 3: it's not him, there's a lot of other options that 439 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: the Cardinals have on offense that if you rattled off 440 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 3: any of the players that we've previously talked about. Heck, 441 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 3: even as Zay Jones and you said that that was 442 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 3: his stat line, I wouldn't bat an eye at it 443 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: because there's a lot of targets on this offense. There's 444 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: a lot of weapons that could reach that stat line 445 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 3: any given game. It's very possible. But I do think 446 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: that him saying his body has felt better than it's 447 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 3: ever felt before, the relationship he has with k one 448 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 3: and all the work, the fact that he's staying in 449 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 3: the valley very frequently to work with Kyler Murray at 450 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: any given time. That's the type of stuff that, as 451 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 3: I previously mentioned, will translate onto the field. They said 452 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: that it's already translating onto the practice field here at OTAs. 453 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 3: You can only imagine what a few more months that's 454 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: going to be like before the season opener in Buffalo. 455 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: And something that no one had with Kyler Murray a 456 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: year ago is these offseason workouts to work on your 457 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: rhythm and timing, which Michael mentioned that's what this offense 458 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: is built around. It's all about the steps Kyler Murray. 459 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: How many steps is he taking? Is it a two 460 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: step drop, is it a three step drop? How many 461 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: steps for the wide receiver to make their cut, whether 462 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: that's inside or outside, or to turn around and come 463 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 1: back for the football. It's all predicated on timing. And 464 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: then something interesting that Michael brought up was his stride 465 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: length versus Marvin Harrison Junior's stride length or Great Dorch's 466 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: stride length and figuring out, Okay, maybe it's five steps 467 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: for me, but it's going to be two steps for 468 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: Marvin because he's got a longer stride, and that for 469 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback can be difficult. But that's where you have 470 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: these weekends in the offseason to go out on a 471 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: high school football field around the county around the state 472 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: and work on that and continue to work on that, 473 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: and you hope it pays off in the regular season. 474 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: That chemistry. You have to know what's going on in 475 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: the mind of your wide receivers. As a quarterback, it's 476 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: not just calling to play watching him run the route 477 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: and then you throw them on there. You throw it 478 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: on the route like you see it on the paper. 479 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: Sometimes there's a little bit of a movement. I listened 480 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 3: to Travis Kelsey talk a lot about his route running 481 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 3: and how it does not always match the paper. Sometimes 482 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: he doesn't even run the route as it's shown. But 483 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: sometimes they'll make a cut an extra yard early because 484 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: they know that that that transition, that foot placement, that 485 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: that's going to match up better with the quarterbacks vision 486 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 3: with his eyes, what he's expecting his release. The Kyler 487 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: Murray's got a fastball of an arm, so that ball 488 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: is going to be getting out there right away and 489 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: because of that, and that's kind of the baseball player 490 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: in K one. So maybe he's giving whoever's throwing out 491 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 3: the first pitch at the Diamondbacks game. Maybe he's giving 492 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 3: them some point ahead of time. But that speed and 493 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 3: that release from Kyler Murray. That's where the stridelink mixing 494 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: with the footwork of K one, mixing with the wide 495 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 3: receivers vision of the route, their plan, it all goes 496 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: hand in hand and it does make a difference because 497 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 3: we talk about the You mentioned how they didn't have 498 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 3: that during the offseason last year. That's something Trey McBride 499 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 3: talked about in that game against the Falcons where he 500 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 3: did not sit on the route and Kyler Murray through 501 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: that interception. It's knowing what's going on in the mind 502 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: of your targets out there that is going to help 503 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: on game days. 504 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: Happened with Michael Wilson on the interception against the Philadelphia Eagles. 505 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: But you learn from it and you come back and 506 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: you build that trust between pass thrower and pass catcher. 507 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: And I do believe that this offense is going to 508 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: be much improved because of Marvin Harrison Junior. Now, there 509 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: were some interesting comments from a quarterback in the league 510 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: about whether a number one wide receiver is necessary, and 511 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: this is Jordan Love, Packers quarterback talking about a number 512 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: one wide receive. Not having one of those puts more 513 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: stress on a defense, at least in his words, quote 514 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: I think it works out well when you can spread 515 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: the ball out and you've got different guys making different 516 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: plays and you can put them in different areas. End quote. 517 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: On the surface, I hear that, and I read that, 518 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, well, of course he's saying that 519 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: because the Packers don't have a number one wide receiver. 520 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: Yet I understand what he's saying, because if you have 521 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: a number of different options, then yeah, the defense doesn't 522 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: know where they're where the ball is going to go. Yet, 523 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: I think that falls more on the quarterback. If you 524 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: are a Tom Brady without a number wide wide receiver, yes, 525 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: but a Jordan Love without a number one wide receiver. 526 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: There's a big difference there, and I think something that 527 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: the Packers are going to learn this season. But we 528 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: have seen examples. Tyreek Hill leaves the Kansas City Chiefs. 529 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: They still have Travis Kelcey, but no number one wide receiver. 530 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: They continue to win Super Bowls. What's gonna happen with 531 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills this year? They lose their number one 532 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver. How does Josh Allen react. I'd much rather 533 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: be yeah, much rather be in the position of, Okay, 534 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: we have a number one wide receiver, at least we 535 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: hope too. That's what we're projecting out of MH. All right, now, 536 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: let's see what an offense can look like without a 537 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. I've seen enough of this offense 538 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: without a number one wide receiver. 539 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 3: I think with with Jordan Love, that's more addicative of 540 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: the chemistry he needs to have with his wide receivers 541 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: to even if the defense doesn't recognize a one, number 542 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: one wide receiver out there, number one target like Marvin Harrison, junior, 543 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: defenses are going to say that's their wide receiver. One fair. 544 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: That's a fair assessment to make. But when you look 545 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: at the Packers lineup, you don't necessarily see a number 546 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: one wide out out there. And that's not to knock 547 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 3: anybody over there in Green Bay, but that chemistry. If 548 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: a quarterback could have that chemistry with any of his 549 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: wide receivers, he can make them a wide receiver one 550 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 3: that doesn't necessarily need to have the status or the 551 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 3: aura for to use the term we used before. They 552 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 3: don't need to necessarily have that in order to make 553 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 3: it that number one wide receiver. But we've seen quarterback 554 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 3: excel without that number one target because of the chemistry 555 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 3: that they had with all their targets. And I think, 556 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 3: going back to my previous point, if the Cardinals are 557 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: able to have any of their targets a Trey McBride 558 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 3: is Zay Jones of greg toorch go for that six 559 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 3: for ninety five, as Michael Wilson said that he would 560 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 3: hope to be a regular occurrence for the Arizona Cardinals offense. 561 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 3: If he's able to have that, you don't necessarily need 562 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: to worry about who your wide receiver one is. It's 563 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: the chemistry with the quarterback, it's the skill from the quarterback, 564 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: and it's the trust with the wide outs. 565 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: Of course, of. 566 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: Course we'll all find out for real if the Packers 567 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: have a number one wide receiver when the Cardinals visit 568 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: Green Bay in Week six, and maybe this conversation is 569 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: completely blows up in our face. But again I prefer 570 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: the situation that the Cardinals are in having that number 571 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: one wide receiver, or at least projecting to have that 572 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: number one guy that you know you can count on 573 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: each and every week. In the quarterback. We heard Kyler 574 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: talk about it. Oh he's already got my trust. Now 575 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: he can lose my trust. But he's already got that trust. 576 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: You could see it. You could see it on the field, 577 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: you can see on the tape. A quarterback knows what 578 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: he likes. Kyle Murray's been in the league for going 579 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: down into year number six. He's played ball his entire life. 580 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 3: He knows what a good wide receiver looks like. He 581 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: saw it on the field, and he saw it on 582 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: the film. With Marvin Harrison Junior. He had a front 583 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: row seat on the sidelines in the beginning half of 584 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: the season with Michael Wilson. Now they're working it all 585 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: out to make sure that it's not just on the sidelines, 586 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: but it's on the field under center. 587 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: And it's not just the players we saw and heard 588 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: just how excited Monty Austin Ford is, owner Michael Bidwell, 589 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: head coach Jonathan Gannon. As far as the selection Marvin 590 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 1: Harrison Junior part of the latest episode Flight Plan, Stick 591 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: and Pick, which is available right now in the Cardinals 592 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: official YouTube channel, but very clear that once the Patriots 593 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: selected Drake May, there was very little trade discussion or 594 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: at least the possibility of many moving off that fourth 595 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: overall pick. And as we heard Monty tell Mha on 596 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: the phone quote, it's been you. I think that's what 597 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people were hoping and we got to 598 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: see on flight plan that that is ultimately what happened. 599 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: But now behind the scenes within that draft. 600 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: Room and there's still I know when it was more 601 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: so towards the latter half of the draft, when Darius 602 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: Robinson was gonna be the Cardinals selection, that there was 603 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: some fireworks, some tension in the room. But the draft 604 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: really started at number three and that's what we knew. 605 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: So once Drake may was selected and Monty got that 606 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 3: call and he said, now we're gonna pick I think 607 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 3: that's what a lot of Cardinals fans have been waiting for. 608 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: That's what they were hoping to hear. And now that 609 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 3: that phone call was given, was delivered to Marvin and 610 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 3: I love what he said in the car ride to 611 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 3: the facility, Like I wish he would have told me 612 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: that a while ago now, because it's like, obviously Kayleb 613 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: Williams knew he was going to be the guy for 614 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears. Monty kept his cards closed. He didn't 615 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: want to disclose anything. He went to have a lot 616 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: of other teams guessing, and that's why we on all 617 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: these different podcasts and articles were wondering, well, what is 618 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: Monty actually gonna end up doing? And when we saw 619 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 3: that the pick was in for the Cardinals, you knew 620 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: that it was going to be MHJ A. 621 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: Little bit different of a situation for the Cardinals at 622 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: number twenty seven, and again a nice behind the scenes 623 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: look in flight plans stick and pick with the selection 624 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: of Darius Robinson. Cardinals did try to move up to 625 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: number twenty four, didn't quite work out, so they were 626 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: left to wait and watch that board and hopefully their guy, 627 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: Darius Robinson would fall their way. And I found it 628 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: interest in the conversation that Money had with Michael as 629 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: far as Okay, it's not working out, and Michael's response was, quote, 630 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: some of the best deals are the ones you don't make, 631 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: and sometimes that's how things work out. Like you were 632 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: hoping for one situation, couldn't quite make it, but at 633 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you're still at that same destination, 634 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: just maybe a different way you. 635 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: Got there, and you were able to keep one oh 636 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: four as well, you didn't have to make the trade, 637 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: and that you were able to bring in a really 638 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 3: talented safety and a rabbit. Taylor Emerson, that's what you're 639 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 3: able to do, and that the best deals are the 640 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: ones you don't make. When I heard that, I was like, huh, 641 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 3: all right, that's a great way of looking at it 642 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: because there's so many There's so many times we talk about, well, 643 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 3: what happens if we did trade away number four and 644 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: you get the three first round picks in return or 645 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: whatever the offer was going to be. And I love 646 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: how many said hold off on calling Darius, I want 647 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: to see if we get three first round picks. You 648 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 3: would have expected to hear that about pick number four, 649 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 3: but when it came to number twenty seven, they still 650 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: got their guy. And I love when Monty and brace 651 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: jg And said front seven. They knew that this was 652 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: an area that they needed to improve. They focus heavily 653 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 3: on it during the free agency cycle with the Balal Nichols, 654 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 3: Justin Jones, Kyrie's Tonga out bringing back L. J. Collier. 655 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 3: Then you double down on it in the draft with 656 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 3: Darius Robinson, and he is a freaky looks like a 657 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: freakish athlete on the field. We've been able to see 658 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 3: it lining up with all the other defensive linemen he's 659 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 3: still learning and he's still going to learn. But that's 660 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 3: the best type of player you want to have, is 661 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: somebody that's eager to learn and experience all that the 662 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: game has to offer. 663 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: And Bergang, when you watch Flight Plan, make sure you 664 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: watch all the way to the end, because we've seen 665 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: now in movies and what Hollywood is doing that post 666 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: credit scene. Flight Plan now has a post credit scene. 667 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: How about Paris Johnson Junior catching a little stray? 668 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 3: I almost missed that because I saw the logo pop 669 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 3: up and then I saw the ticker of the bottom 670 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 3: and still say we had about like forty five more seconds. 671 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, did we accidentally extend the logo of the 672 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 3: credits towards the end? But hearing Monty call Paris and 673 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: I love when Marvin Harrison Senior said to the media 674 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: when he spoke after Marvin Harrison Junior was introduced, and 675 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 3: he said, I think the happiest person here right now 676 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 3: is Paris Johnson Jr. That call between Monty and Paris 677 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: Johnson kind of doubled down on that and it emphasized 678 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 3: that a lot more because Paris was pumped to have 679 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: his Ohio State Buckeye in the building. 680 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: MANI on the phone with Paris, quote, I hope this 681 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: Ohio State guy is tougher than the last one we drafted. 682 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: And some lasts were exchanged between the two. But again 683 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: that relationship between last year's draft class, this year's draft 684 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: class with this front office. And then of course if 685 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: you watch flight plan. When you watch flight plan, the 686 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: first person to greet both Marvin and Darius was Paris 687 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: Johnson Junior, even before Manti jg and owner Michael Biddle, 688 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: you can just. 689 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 3: Tell how pumped he was, how excited he was. When 690 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 3: I was, I was walking around the facility and I 691 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 3: saw Paris waiting outside and we knew that obviously the 692 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 3: introductory press conference was going to be in about an 693 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 3: hour ish beforehand or hours after. But I saw Paris 694 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 3: waiting by the parking lot. It was like, huh, I 695 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 3: guess he's gonna be there. He's going to be the 696 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: welcoming committee. 697 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: And he was. 698 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 3: And I think for Marvin to have his guy there 699 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 3: at the front welcome him in, it's the new era 700 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 3: of Cardinals football. You brought in, that new regime. We 701 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: talked about the rookie class being linked. Well, that rookie 702 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,479 Speaker 3: class is also always going to be linked to JG 703 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 3: and Monty for their first season in their roles with 704 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals. Marvin Harrison Junior is now that next 705 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 3: headline guy. So to have two headliners embrace one another 706 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 3: when they arrived, it's truly indicative of what Cardinals football 707 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: is going to be about in the future. 708 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: A lot of fun again, flight plan, stick and pick 709 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: on the Cardinals official YouTube channel. It is available right now. 710 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: Some great behind the scenes look not only on draft night, 711 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: but both Marvin and Paris when they walked into the 712 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: facility here for the first time as well. You brought 713 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: up the word new how about before we exit stage 714 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: left here the new kickoff rule. We've talked a lot 715 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: about it, but I know you've got a story that 716 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: is up on Easycardinals dot com, not from the perspective 717 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: of Jeff Rogers, but from the players themselves as far 718 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: as what this is going to look like, potentially could 719 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: look like. 720 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff Rodgers said that the players are excited. I 721 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 3: wanted to put that to the test, and I spoke 722 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 3: to some of the guys. I spoke to Zach Paskeal 723 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: because when I was watching the Super Bowl twenty twenty 724 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 3: three when the Philadelphia Eagles were playing against Kansas City 725 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 3: Chiefs at State Farm Stadium. I remember the kickoff and 726 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 3: Zach Pascal, when he was with the Eagles, ran all 727 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 3: the way to the edge of the field and there 728 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 3: was a touchback and he just started he started amping 729 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 3: up the crowd. And then when he came to the 730 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,439 Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals week one, Week two, week three, he kept 731 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 3: amping up the crowd on touchbacks and I said to him, 732 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 3: when I spoke to him, I go, does that change 733 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 3: your routine? He's like a little bit, but he said 734 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 3: that overall, it's a very different thing. In every single 735 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: day that they practiced this. During the nine voluntary OTA practices, 736 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 3: the one mandatory practice that they had, they worked on 737 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 3: the kickoff, and he said that it was different every 738 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 3: single time because they're always learning something new about it. 739 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: But they are very pumped because they know that it's 740 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 3: gonna be explosive, it's gonna be exciting, it's gonna open 741 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: up a lot more opportunities. So I put together the 742 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,959 Speaker 3: piece on azcardinals dot Com definitely suggests and encourage our 743 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 3: listeners to read about it because it does put in 744 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 3: perspective a little bit. A guy like Zach Pascal, who 745 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 3: was still a wide receiver at heart. He knows and 746 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 3: he obviously he's carved more of a role on the 747 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 3: special team's route, but he's used to lining up against 748 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 3: a cornerback that's only a few yards away from him. Here, 749 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 3: it's gonna be five yards between the kickoff, so he 750 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 3: knows how to get by somebody. And it's going to 751 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 3: be interesting to see how they put it all together. 752 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: It's a play once again, it's no longer a throwaway 753 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 3: because the ball is kicked out of the back of 754 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 3: the end zone. Now, maybe we see that later this 755 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 3: season that teams just say, all right, take the ball 756 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 3: at the thirty because we don't want to risk a 757 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 3: plus thirty five start for you on offense and then 758 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 3: us on defense. But it's going to be exciting because 759 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 3: I do think that there are going to be a 760 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 3: number of different unique ways in which teams handle this, 761 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 3: and then the challenges that it presents for the opposition 762 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 3: or the kick return and then the kick coverage. What 763 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 3: do you do and then how do you handle it 764 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 3: weekend and week out, or does it change depending on 765 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 3: the opponent, or if you have a different wrinkle for 766 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 3: a particular week. My prediction, week two, it's going to 767 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 3: look entirely different because Jeff Rodgers told us after every 768 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 3: single week he watches every single special teams played throughout 769 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 3: the entire league, not just the Cardinals, not just who 770 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 3: they're going to be playing against, but across the entire league, 771 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 3: and every special teams coach is going to be watching 772 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 3: that during preseason. That's when Jesse Luketa told me, that's 773 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 3: when he's expecting for fans to look at this as 774 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 3: the new norm, per se, something that they could see 775 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 3: and say like, Okay, we're going to be accustomed to 776 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 3: now seeing this as opposed to the standard kickoff that 777 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 3: we've grown to see over the past handful of years. 778 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 3: But Jeff Rodgers said, a lot of teams are probably 779 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 3: going to keep stuff in the back. They're not going 780 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 3: to want to showcase everything during preseason, so that by 781 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 3: week one, week two, and as the season continues to 782 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 3: go on, that's when we're gonna start running more and 783 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 3: more about the kickoff. But week two, after that first week, 784 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 3: opening week of the NFL season, that's when I'm going 785 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 3: to be very interested to see what team's picked up 786 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 3: from the other guys from the other organizations and what 787 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 3: they're bringing into their own special teams rooms. 788 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: Story is up on Easycardinals dot Com later this week. 789 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: Zach story on the rookies including Marvin Harrison Junior and 790 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: Darius Robinson throwing out first pitches for or at the 791 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: d Backs game on Thursday, when the d Backs hosts 792 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: the Angels. So still plenty of work for you to do, 793 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: even though the coaches and players they're all done now 794 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: for the offseason. The offseason for content that's true, you 795 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: need to put that on a T shirt. 796 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: I would wear it. 797 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: I know you would. 798 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 3: As long as we have a collar on this time, 799 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 3: we coll wear it Toork. 800 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: Nicely done. On that note, we will put a lid 801 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyundai, 802 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks 803 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jim Mamahundra, our associate producer Cody 804 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: Fincher for Zach Kershman, I'm Craig real Lou. We'll talk 805 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.