Speaker 1: Hey, viewers.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions.
Speaker 3: I'm Gabelon Sadez and.
Speaker 4: I'm Christotison Rosso. Each week we explore the sublime world
Speaker 4: of queer sex, cruising, and relationships.
Speaker 1: We talk to queer folks of all kinds.
Speaker 2: We'll ask some questions, swap sex stories, share intimate revelations,
Speaker 2: and provide practical advice that you can use at home.
Speaker 3: Put put Jos, put jo, put put your put put.
Speaker 2: Your so Chris Gabe, you seem like a like a
Speaker 2: diva of gym experience?
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 2: I have been known to dabble, to dabble? Are those
Speaker 2: dabbling must? I was not aware? So yes, you hit
Speaker 2: the gym.
Speaker 1: I do work out.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do have a question if I might ask, Okay,
Speaker 2: what is the hottest or maybe most memorable locker room
Speaker 2: experience you've ever had.
Speaker 4: I mean, there have been times where I've been in
Speaker 4: the steam room at my gym and it's just like
Speaker 4: the stars are in alignment, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: We're all on the same page, because like sometimes I
Speaker 4: am in the locker room and like the vibe isn't
Speaker 4: quite right. There's that one person who's not comfortable because
Speaker 4: there are straits that go to my gym. Oh wow,
Speaker 4: you have to be cognizant of them in the in
Speaker 4: the steamer room, and I forgot. But this time it
Speaker 4: was all queers and we were all ready to go,
Speaker 4: and things got even steamier than normal. It was lovely.
Speaker 4: I had a great time. I really felt fulfilled, is
Speaker 4: what I'll say.
Speaker 3: Did you feel held by community? Sure?
Speaker 4: You felt he absolutely? I was supported. At one point, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was being held. What about you? What is your
Speaker 4: gym experience? I classically hate gyms. Okay, were is there
Speaker 4: a moment where you had like a sexual wakening in
Speaker 4: a locker room, like think back to like childhood or
Speaker 4: I was not.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can guess I was not
Speaker 2: a very athletic child, so like my puberty was spent
Speaker 2: not in like a locker room. Wow, I was doing
Speaker 2: the arts. I was also what the doctors called the
Speaker 2: precocious puberty.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: I hit puberty in like the fifth grade. So I
Speaker 2: started sprouting armpit hair. And I was on the swim team, imagine.
Speaker 2: So I started getting like really chubby and sprouting armpit hair.
Speaker 2: So I was like the fat hairy kid in class.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: It was an artle kids would like make fun of
Speaker 2: me for my body hair, and I was like really
Speaker 2: self conscious about it. And then like four years passed
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, we all look like this,
Speaker 2: we all have hair. So case you haven't guessed, we
Speaker 2: are talking about a very charged space today.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the locker room.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: For a lot of cool people, in the locker room
Speaker 2: is the first place we saw another naked person.
Speaker 1: It's where we took our first group shower and hoped
Speaker 1: and prayed we didn't get.
Speaker 2: Hard or stole forbidden glances at our colleagues or teammates.
Speaker 3: Buts it was a.
Speaker 4: Sight of sexual awakening, which is probably why the locker
Speaker 4: room scene has been staple and Gaye porn for nearly
Speaker 4: fifty years.
Speaker 2: So in today's episode, we are going to be talking
Speaker 2: about our ongoing love affair with locker rooms and why
Speaker 2: there's such a turn on. We'll also hear some wild
Speaker 2: and outrageous true stories of locker room lust from one
Speaker 2: of our favorite comedians, the always fit, the always funny,
Speaker 2: Jay Jordan.
Speaker 4: Jay Jorden is a comedian, actor, and Emmy nominated writer
Speaker 4: whose stand up has been featured everywhere from Comedy Central
Speaker 4: to the Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon, The Late Late
Speaker 4: Show with James Gordon, and.
Speaker 3: The Drew Brahm Ray Show.
Speaker 2: He is currently on a big fall comedy tour to
Speaker 2: promote his new comedy special Yes ma'am on Hulu, Please
Speaker 2: Welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions.
Speaker 1: Jay Jordan, Hello, Hello, happy to be here.
Speaker 3: Anonymously, I'm a disembodied Tourso yeah, with that voice, that
Speaker 3: is the thing. That is the thing. People. Now, I've
Speaker 3: officially reached the level of this is what ever level
Speaker 3: of fame is.
Speaker 1: When if I'm ever at a gay bar and.
Speaker 3: I'm acting up a little bit of people go wait
Speaker 3: a minute, you know, hey, hey, watch the special don't
Speaker 3: watch me watch.
Speaker 1: It's a really good thing.
Speaker 2: We don't have voice notes on Sniffy's because I feel
Speaker 2: like that would be the one thing that would give
Speaker 2: you away the torso maybe the dudes maybe, but like
Speaker 2: once I heard that voice, I'd be like, oh, I
Speaker 2: know who stick that?
Speaker 3: Come on. There's a beauty in that, though, there is
Speaker 3: in their connectedness of New York slutty gay people.
Speaker 2: I do call Chris the patriot active gay people in
Speaker 2: New York because Chris can identify anybody based on like
Speaker 2: the weirdest body parts.
Speaker 3: You're the surveillance state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'll show him the left bunchee.
Speaker 1: We're on Nancy Dream a little bit. You know, we're
Speaker 1: all investigative.
Speaker 3: Journalists exactly magnifying class Donald and Tow. Does she know
Speaker 3: about Sniffy's.
Speaker 1: She does?
Speaker 3: I think she does.
Speaker 1: I think because sometimes people they're like with it.
Speaker 3: They know about everything. They knew about bath houses, they
Speaker 3: knew about cruising. But then like there is like a
Speaker 3: level of like sort of once you get out of
Speaker 3: the game, you kind of like, wait a second, the
Speaker 3: kids are doing what? So she doesn't, Rosie, if you
Speaker 3: don't know about Sniffy's I hope you know now in
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Speaker 1: Be the dommiest masquest energy in this room. She would
Speaker 1: tell Bun y'all to shut up, and you'll be.
Speaker 3: Like I would be on my knees.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So j We're so fucking excited.
Speaker 2: You are right now in the middle of a comedy
Speaker 2: toury and you're special on Hulu.
Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am, Yes, Hulu, Thank you so much. Hulu Comedy Dynamics.
Speaker 3: It's on Hulu. It came out November seventh. I filmed
Speaker 3: it in New Orleans, a very queer, very southern, very
Speaker 3: black city.
Speaker 1: It was so funny. I filmed it and then I want.
Speaker 3: To say the next night, I went to an underwear
Speaker 3: party at a bar. And you know how sometimes you
Speaker 3: go to a gay bar and you go, what's going
Speaker 3: on back there? To go, Oh, it's like co check,
Speaker 3: you go, this is the underwear party.
Speaker 1: I will say that happened to me at precington La.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like fresh off like a work event.
Speaker 2: I was in a words ceremony. I had on like
Speaker 2: my nicest suit.
Speaker 3: You in a suit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, girl, I was working in the suit a lot,
Speaker 2: I have a good one. I've never seen you in
Speaker 2: a suit. I know you're wearing a suit jacket, but like,
Speaker 2: nobody ever sees what I wear underneath. I'm like, RuPaul,
Speaker 2: you don't know what's.
Speaker 1: Going on on the table.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's such a point of contention, the fact
Speaker 3: that that was exposed and someone was like.
Speaker 1: Did you know sometimes she's not wearing and you go,
Speaker 1: don't talk.
Speaker 3: About it if you ever want to, if you ever
Speaker 3: want to be on that show, don't talk about it.
Speaker 2: Did you know that sixty plus year old man isn't
Speaker 2: wearing a corset.
Speaker 1: For catching strays on the City's podcast.
Speaker 3: No, we're celebrating a rupaular every day. You remember when
Speaker 3: you were like, wait a second, is the most famous
Speaker 3: drag queen in this loud ass black old man from Atlanta? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And then you go, oh, that's also Tyler Perry?
Speaker 1: Which one?
Speaker 3: Which one? Which old loud blackness? Is it from Atlanta?
Speaker 3: Am I talking about? You know what Tyler Perry told me?
Speaker 3: He said, Jay, It's like God told me I put
Speaker 3: on that dress and make me some money.
Speaker 4: Oh well, I'm really excited that you're here. And one
Speaker 4: of the reasons that I really love you? Is like
Speaker 4: your willingness to talk about sex, yes, and gay sex
Speaker 4: in particular. Yes, How did you get to a place
Speaker 4: where you felt comfortable sharing that like on stage?
Speaker 1: Okay, So I never did comedy in the closet.
Speaker 3: I know some people like did comedy under your straight personas,
Speaker 3: and they finally got to come out that it was
Speaker 3: a little bit wild than twenty twenty three, and people like,
Speaker 3: can you believe I'm gay? I was like, girl, yes,
Speaker 3: you filmed it in the village, but I never wanted
Speaker 3: to be in the closet on stage, primarily because one,
Speaker 3: you have like these micro tells wherever now, and then
Speaker 3: you'll be talking about something and let's say you choose
Speaker 3: to use gender nonspecific pronouns. People clock that. Let's say
Speaker 3: you always kind of talk around your personal life people
Speaker 3: in the audience and other comments, They'll be like, wait
Speaker 3: a second, it was gone. And so then you have
Speaker 3: these kind of almost self hating moments where you go, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't want talk about any gay stuff. You'd be like,
Speaker 3: wait a second. If I don't talk about gay stuff,
Speaker 3: there's no guarantee anyone's gonna talk about gay stuff at
Speaker 3: this straight ass Mike. So then you kind of find
Speaker 3: the fun and the taboo and the transgressive nature of
Speaker 3: queer sex in a straight setting. Because now a lot
Speaker 3: of these a lot of these straight boy comedians, all
Speaker 3: of these straight men who do comedy, they think gay
Speaker 3: sex is super funny, and you go, okay, sometimes it is,
Speaker 3: but gay sex isn't funny because two people love each other.
Speaker 3: Gay sex is funny because have you ever tried to
Speaker 3: turn a door handle with lube on your hand?
Speaker 2: That's fun you yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Gay sex is funny because you go, hey, are.
Speaker 3: You killing him?
Speaker 1: We're trying slate.
Speaker 3: That's when gay sex is funny, because sex is funny.
Speaker 3: And so I always wanted to be very open, and
Speaker 3: I want to be as specific as possible sometimes because
Speaker 3: through that specificity you get a lot of comedy. And
Speaker 3: that's why my monkey pox jokes is very funny, just
Speaker 3: because there was a specifisty when we were all getting
Speaker 3: the monkey pops vaccine and you show up in the
Speaker 3: Bronx and be like the Queen's were out Listen.
Speaker 1: If you hear that means you can.
Speaker 3: I think there's a long standing tradition of being able
Speaker 3: to talk about taboo subjects and for some people, queer sex,
Speaker 3: especially male centered queer sex, and comedy settings. What happens
Speaker 3: a lot of times in comedy, and I hate that
Speaker 3: I even have to say it this way, is that
Speaker 3: like people can map sapphic and lesbian comics onto straight
Speaker 3: male comics because at the end of the day they think, oh,
Speaker 3: they just talking about bitches no matter what. So okay,
Speaker 3: I can when it gets to like actual queerness and
Speaker 3: femininity presented through a kind of male presenting body and
Speaker 3: anything that's actually really transgressive and really taboo, it's so
Speaker 3: scary for people. People like what, I didn't even I
Speaker 3: have straight people still come up with me. They go,
Speaker 3: I don't even usually like gay comedy, but you And
Speaker 3: then I go and I go, man, stop looking at me.
Speaker 1: Stop your girlfriends right here, right here, right here, hey,
Speaker 1: but put at least on him so I can watch.
Speaker 3: Megan bar.
Speaker 1: And she will.
Speaker 3: I'm okay with some of these straight us come up
Speaker 3: to me like, oh man, I really like your stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm not okay with them being like I don't like
Speaker 3: gay people accept you. I hate that ship and that
Speaker 3: that's like that's like when I mean that's kind of
Speaker 3: when people go, I don't even like wrap, and you go, well, okay,
Speaker 3: all right, but yeah, that's uh. I'm very lucky in
Speaker 3: the since that I've been able to curate and cultivate
Speaker 3: a fan base that is pretty open and accepting and
Speaker 3: like hopefully growing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so ju, I want to talk about the
Speaker 1: gym a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yes, you are yoked by comedy standards, by any standards,
Speaker 2: but right.
Speaker 3: Now I'm dressed like like a graduate teaching. I was wondering, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to play with I'm trying to play with reveals.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you can see some stuff through just a little yeah,
Speaker 3: sometimes you can see stuff through Oversize things make it
Speaker 3: very fun. I didn't want to be whore like y'all
Speaker 3: kind of covered, you know what I mean. We need
Speaker 3: one of these shirts though. But I love the gym.
Speaker 3: The gym is what got me through my first couple
Speaker 3: of years in New York. When I first moved here,
Speaker 3: I was a personal trainer and that was the first
Speaker 3: thing I did, and then I started doing comedy and
Speaker 3: it was a job that actually lined up pretty well
Speaker 3: with comedy, so.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I worked at a gym and after plays.
Speaker 3: So I know the name has changed, but if you
Speaker 3: know where it is, you know where it is. Man,
Speaker 3: that's that's the gym where I first started working New
Speaker 3: York and it was so gay when I got there,
Speaker 3: huge discoll on the second floor with the DJ booth inside. Period.
Speaker 3: Amanda Laport was like at the opening of this gym,
Speaker 3: this gym was like it was one of those gyms
Speaker 3: that was a nightlife gym that also was like basically
Speaker 3: the pregame for a lot of people before they went out,
Speaker 3: and it was always packed. Anderson Cooper was at this
Speaker 3: gym for a little bit. I told one story where
Speaker 3: I was like, I was like just being silly with
Speaker 3: one of my personal trainer friends and he's like, Jay,
Speaker 3: how do you maintain size but also meantain definition. I said, Ryan,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna believe me. Come, you gotta drink more. Come.
Speaker 3: He said, is the protein? I said, no, it's a zinc.
Speaker 3: I said, that's you're not You're not getting your micro nutrients.
Speaker 3: This is like before I was doing scam up, I
Speaker 3: was like basically workshopping sets in the gym. I go
Speaker 3: to another group of trainers and I'm about to tell
Speaker 3: this joke, and then who's with these trainers right now?
Speaker 3: Anderson Cooper. So I'm like, shut up, But I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm talking about second dick in front of Anson Cooper.
Speaker 3: He ain't this like the first time that gym was insane,
Speaker 3: primarily because it was also a place where you would
Speaker 3: see people there for a very specific reason, gymnasium means
Speaker 3: naked place. They were taking full advantage of that downstairs,
Speaker 3: and I was a trainer who would definitely turn a
Speaker 3: blind eye simply because I'm not a fucking cop. I'm
Speaker 3: not a cop, I'm not a narc So if someone
Speaker 3: was down there for a little bit, I'd be like,
Speaker 3: go ahead, that's right, I'm gonna go over here. I mean,
Speaker 3: the craziest thing that ever happened one time I was
Speaker 3: upstairs and I saw like fire truck, fire truck, ambulance.
Speaker 3: Apparently someone was in the steam room a little too long.
Speaker 3: Take a break, everyone psa, take a break. He's in
Speaker 3: there too long, passed out, fell and then you know
Speaker 3: he had to be carried out. He wasn't dead, but
Speaker 3: as he was getting carried out, the meanest thing someone
Speaker 3: said is what are you going to tell his wife?
Speaker 3: Before there was any other gym or I saw a
Speaker 3: bunch of queenie muscly men who got to be gay,
Speaker 3: like gay with the capitol G. Not scared of straight
Speaker 3: men being all the wicks in here like that was
Speaker 3: the gym, and so it was a place for them
Speaker 3: both feel free and feel empowered.
Speaker 1: So I was very happy.
Speaker 3: It was one of those things that definitely informed my
Speaker 3: comedic persona. I was like, Oh, these people can be
Speaker 3: this loud and gay in the gym. I can be
Speaker 3: this loud and gay on stage, of course. So it
Speaker 3: was one of those things that I was happy I
Speaker 3: got to see. It also didn't give me any sort
Speaker 3: of like, it didn't give me any sort of issues.
Speaker 3: Like when I was at that gym, I could talk
Speaker 3: about queer stuff, I could talk about gym stuff, I
Speaker 3: can talk about nerdy stuff. I could talk about whatever
Speaker 3: I wanted to and it was fine. We even had
Speaker 3: my boss. He loved gay trainers, specifically because being a
Speaker 3: trainer required knowledge and rapport and while gay guys sometimes
Speaker 3: don't have burns, they do not, but the ability to
Speaker 3: communicate and the rapport both with female clients. With female clients,
Speaker 3: there's like a girl, let me tell you aspect. With
Speaker 3: male clients, there's okay here if you want to look
Speaker 3: good for men, I can tell you how to look.
Speaker 3: And then with straight clients, straight client, whenever you had
Speaker 3: a straight client in that gym, you were like, this
Speaker 3: is not a zoo, but isn't this crazy? Don't feed them?
Speaker 3: But yeah, hungry. I mean. It's also where I saw
Speaker 3: I saw trans people go to the gym without feeling weird.
Speaker 3: I saw non binary people go to the gym without
Speaker 3: feeling weird. And that was like a huge thing for
Speaker 3: me coming from the South because I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, So let's go back in time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm wondering if you can remember your earliest sexual
Speaker 4: awakening in the gym or locker room.
Speaker 3: Locker room?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, so locker room, okay.
Speaker 3: Whenever I was in high school, that's when we had
Speaker 3: to take like gym, and so they would make us
Speaker 3: change in the locker room. And that's the first time
Speaker 3: you see anyone else in because like you'd be at home,
Speaker 3: you see yourself in you're underwhere, but in high school
Speaker 3: because everyone this is I'm aiding myself a bit. Everyone's
Speaker 3: wearing boxers, so you you were seeing movement.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's in the morning, I'm in a locker room with
Speaker 3: a bunch of my classmates. I'm seeing them get undressed.
Speaker 3: I'm getting undressed, and the whole time like this is
Speaker 3: crazy what they just let us look at this? We
Speaker 3: shouldn't be in here. But then at the same time,
Speaker 3: like this is cool. Everyone be cool, Everyone be cool.
Speaker 3: That was the first time. Like you also notice like
Speaker 3: whose penises were like clocking in for work, Like who
Speaker 3: like who like got the adult dicks? Right in high
Speaker 3: school you're like, wait a second, whoa teacher?
Speaker 1: It's a man in here. I'm still but a boy adults.
Speaker 3: And then there were like all these silly and like
Speaker 3: fun moments where like I remember one of my best friends,
Speaker 3: he was notorious for like mooning people. Every time he
Speaker 3: mooned people as a non out, but definitely I knew
Speaker 3: something was going on. I'd be like, that's a good book.
Speaker 3: I was like, we're so thankful.
Speaker 2: We grew up in the era of jackass, oh streight
Speaker 2: men naked when I was in high school, of butts
Speaker 2: and balls.
Speaker 3: You would see the we went to high school during
Speaker 3: the I got a piece of gum on my leg
Speaker 3: era where you'd be like, that's okay. So around a
Speaker 3: bunch of straight boys they were shorts, they'd be like,
Speaker 3: I think I have a piece of gum on my
Speaker 3: leg and you look at their upper thigh and they
Speaker 3: would have like stretched their testicle out to make it.
Speaker 1: It was a little surprise. It was like a little
Speaker 1: I didn't hang out with boys in school.
Speaker 3: Now I was notorious for being like I wasst being like, yeah,
Speaker 3: me and the boys ain'tnging out. Ladies get out of
Speaker 3: here over here doing crazy stuff like jacking out.
Speaker 1: I didn't have anything.
Speaker 3: I didn't have any mutual masturbatory experiences with my good
Speaker 3: friends from high school. But I did have, like you
Speaker 3: compare notes, they'd like show you a like a I
Speaker 3: gave them, like a porn thing, and you show them
Speaker 3: your porn thing, and somebody should be like, okay, you
Speaker 3: can have the Oh I'm gonna give you this DVD
Speaker 3: or oh, I'm gonna show you this website. And so
Speaker 3: you would never jernk off together, but you would be
Speaker 3: like erect together.
Speaker 1: Like you would be like you'd be like if he's.
Speaker 2: Hard, yeah, and I'm hard when his mom get home,
Speaker 2: you've worked at some of the gayest gyms you've worked at,
Speaker 2: some of the rowdiest most like mixed crowd guy gyms
Speaker 2: or all gyms created equal? Are you is a vibe
Speaker 2: always equally cruisy, but just going in different directions.
Speaker 3: Yes, So every time you have that much man stink,
Speaker 3: if you have that much must in a place, it's
Speaker 3: a must. It's a must that you must. It's a must.
Speaker 3: And so what happens is that attracts more men. And
Speaker 3: so some places it's very kind of old school cruisy,
Speaker 3: like you get a little bit of eye contact. Boom
Speaker 3: be bock boom, And so some people they do that.
Speaker 3: Some people you see them on their phone all the time.
Speaker 3: Some people think they're on the phone. Like the social media,
Speaker 3: it's always an app. It's there's always an app pulled
Speaker 3: up at a gym where people are geolocating. So that's
Speaker 3: one aspect of it. And then there's something I called
Speaker 3: sort of old fashion and this is kind of where
Speaker 3: I usually fall, where you see people kind of be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I've seen you here a couple of times, let's exchange
Speaker 3: I g that's like and sometimes that's just like building
Speaker 3: friendship and camaraderie, and you don't even fuck those people.
Speaker 1: Half the time. You're just like a gay person here.
Speaker 3: Thank god.
Speaker 1: Now I know if I go up to you and
Speaker 1: ask you how many sets you have left.
Speaker 3: On how to be like, hey, how many? I'd be
Speaker 3: like girls, Yeah, I'd be like, hey, guess what your
Speaker 3: ass is great? Get off, get off the leg press.
Speaker 3: I need your squat depth is fine. I've seen the
Speaker 3: hall okay, And sometimes that comfort level is present in
Speaker 3: straight relationships and in gay relationships, and I was lucky
Speaker 3: that I got to experience both parts of it. I
Speaker 3: had like good friends who were like super straight who
Speaker 3: I went to gym with. One of the men who
Speaker 3: I met at a gym, I want to say, right
Speaker 3: before the pandemic, we became close. He was he was fun,
Speaker 3: but he was like this this jack dude in his
Speaker 3: like I want to say, late fifties, early sixties, looks.
Speaker 1: Great, just so charming. He told me he's like, oh, I.
Speaker 3: I'm a professional bodybuilder, but I'm all natural. I do
Speaker 3: like the older class. And he was crushing it.
Speaker 1: And then one day he was like, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I also want to do porn. And he started doing porn.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell y'all it's good porn.
Speaker 3: He looks good. It was just wild because he like
Speaker 3: he knew I was queer, and he's not doing gay porn,
Speaker 3: he's doing straight porn. But it was But it was
Speaker 3: just like one of y'all look disappointed. I was. I
Speaker 3: was like, but you're training.
Speaker 2: You're putting in the training to be the leading lady,
Speaker 2: and then you're going into a genre where you will always.
Speaker 1: Be the supporting cast.
Speaker 3: But here's the wild part. He felt so comfortable because
Speaker 3: he knew I was queer. That like, there's a and
Speaker 3: tell me if y'all disagree with queer people. If you say, oh,
Speaker 3: i'm a sex worker queer people, we've become way less
Speaker 3: judgmental because we go.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, celebrate that. So you're picking up dinner, okay,
Speaker 2: that's what I heard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I heard is getting some past as, we're
Speaker 3: getting some for the table. Since you fucking for money,
Speaker 3: let's get let's bring the menu back. That's hurt ye.
Speaker 3: So for him to confide with that in me, I
Speaker 3: felt really really good. It was just one of those thingshere.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, this is like the
Speaker 3: gym and queer stuff and porny stuff and sex stuff
Speaker 3: all together. So and something that boomers are way more
Speaker 3: comfortable with than like millennials and Gen Z because like
Speaker 3: boomers and Gen xers, them digs be out.
Speaker 1: Listen, if a person is over fifty.
Speaker 3: Five, the minute they walk on the gym, they dig
Speaker 3: out and they mad that yours ain't right?
Speaker 1: What you doing this locker rooms?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just here to watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if I don't know, I don't want to
Speaker 3: be a conspiracies, but them old man dicks maybe.
Speaker 1: Damn careful boomer digs that play. We all saw a
Speaker 1: lemon party. We all.
Speaker 3: So it's funny that you bring that up.
Speaker 2: I feel like younger folks are maybe like less comfortable
Speaker 2: getting naked sometimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think there's a generational divide here.
Speaker 2: And it's so funny because when we're talking about hooking
Speaker 2: up in locker rooms, I'm wondering if you see that
Speaker 2: same general divide when it comes to like turning a
Speaker 2: blind eye to folks hooking up versus something else.
Speaker 3: I think logistics specifically, when we're talking about like penetrative
Speaker 3: if we're talking about mutual masturbation, we're talking about you know,
Speaker 3: fun it's fun bull job situation. Those things I think
Speaker 3: can happen a bit kind of more slide if we're
Speaker 3: talking about a full on kind of insertion level. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if we're there, then logistics proves that you either douched
Speaker 3: there or you came douched and dangerous and that.
Speaker 1: Next album, which would.
Speaker 3: Frankie put it out, put.
Speaker 1: Put it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Until I know people who worked at like berries
Speaker 3: and stuff, and they they find like little fleet they
Speaker 3: find like a little empties, like travel sized fleets.
Speaker 1: Well, just like a regularize, regular size.
Speaker 3: The logistics of gay sex sometimes does make it like
Speaker 3: a bit more. It's an extra step. I don't think
Speaker 3: gen Z is like opposed to like people hooking up
Speaker 3: and bathroom go out the clubs. They like people looking
Speaker 3: up in bathrooms, And if you think about like that,
Speaker 3: I think that they're probably they're fed a bunch of
Speaker 3: like puritanical kind of prudy.
Speaker 1: Bullshit online when everyone's like.
Speaker 3: Oh, you should never know you go you never you
Speaker 3: never put your hand on your pants in the club,
Speaker 3: never listen. I think it was the poet Dojah Cats
Speaker 3: who said dick in the bathroom, that's correct on a hills. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So I think that like a fun little gym moment.
Speaker 3: I think that's beautiful. I think it's well within the
Speaker 3: Roman and Greek tradition. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's closer than the original gymnasium.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Actually, I think you're being a history buff at
Speaker 3: that point. You should get extra credit on your degree.
Speaker 3: You're not intellectual, You're an intellectual, you're a historian.
Speaker 1: You're a community member.
Speaker 3: I mean you're you're lifting up those at the lowest.
Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's mutual aid, absolutely absolutely, yes, community right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I kind of borrow a couple of sugar and something else,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to hear some of
Speaker 2: Jay's patented tips that's right, patented for a cruising the
Speaker 2: locker room, and we will also hear some cruising confessions
Speaker 2: from our listeners.
Speaker 3: So we'll see after the break. See you after the break.
Speaker 1: Welcome back.
Speaker 2: We are talking to Jay Jorden about his horny days
Speaker 2: working at New York City's most notoriously cruisey Jim, And
Speaker 2: in this act, we are going to ask Jay for
Speaker 2: some helpful hints to aid in your own locker room sessions.
Speaker 1: Hypothetically, if you were to engage if you were to
Speaker 1: engage in bird watch. Sure, yes, yes, my favorite pastime
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah. All right.
Speaker 4: First question, okay, what advice would you give for someone
Speaker 4: who's looking to cruise in the locker room.
Speaker 3: I would say, after you establish where you're going to be,
Speaker 3: make eye contact. Also a fun thing you can do
Speaker 3: is shower, have a towel. You're always sort of readjusting
Speaker 3: and adjusting the towel, so it's never that you were
Speaker 3: naked or horny. I'm just getting dressed. I'm just drying off.
Speaker 3: My upper thigh is just very moist. I just have
Speaker 3: to keep patting this area. So that's one thing. Also
Speaker 3: like beat chill, like some people like when it comes
Speaker 3: to like a gym like that, like they go, oh
Speaker 3: I'm looking. I go no, no, just relax a little bit.
Speaker 3: If it happens, it happens, If it doesn't, it doesn't,
Speaker 3: because like that's also there's an element of a luck
Speaker 3: and probability and chance no matter what. So relax a
Speaker 3: little bit, Just be chip, be cool. Seeing your first
Speaker 3: time here. You know what to do and compliment people.
Speaker 3: Compliment people. It's never as a vert is like all
Speaker 3: let's go drink off but oh man, you look great.
Speaker 3: You look oh you look great. Oh my god, your
Speaker 3: back looks amazing. If you compliment a man's back, it's
Speaker 3: a putty in your hands for sure. What is the
Speaker 3: best time of day if you're looking at hook up? Okay,
Speaker 3: I would say for most people, it's gonna be some
Speaker 3: sort of afternoon to post work rush. So they're the
Speaker 3: people that are there on a lunch break that kind
Speaker 3: of probably need to get in and out very quickly.
Speaker 3: And then there's also the people who just got done
Speaker 3: with the works. That's like a five forty six o'clock like,
Speaker 3: and the gym is packed then, so there you have
Speaker 3: a bundy of people.
Speaker 1: So, especially if the gym is cruisy, that's when you do.
Speaker 3: And some people go very early morning, but that's how
Speaker 3: some people want to start their day. That's you know,
Speaker 3: that's a little while. For me, that's eight am, nine am.
Speaker 1: Do you but blowjobs before noon? Yeah? What's going on?
Speaker 3: You got a power point you gotta finish.
Speaker 4: You mentioned this earlier about people being on the apps. Yes,
Speaker 4: while at the gym. Should people be using the apps
Speaker 4: to career?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Use the apps?
Speaker 3: You know, once again, within reason, I think that in
Speaker 3: person interactions. I think an app should always lead to
Speaker 3: like an assessment in like, okay, how do I feel
Speaker 3: about this before? Like everything is kind of said and done.
Speaker 3: But that if that helps you make friends, if that
Speaker 3: helps you meet new people, go for it. Use an
Speaker 3: app in the gym. It is funny when you go
Speaker 3: to some gyms and everyone you see a bunch of
Speaker 3: blue screens. You go, okay, all right. I mean, have
Speaker 3: y'all seen the video where the Sniffy's map was pulled
Speaker 3: up on the Kiosk Island Island.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Sniffy's Kiosk was one of the most popular
Speaker 2: things sent to me this summer.
Speaker 5: Is there where people they were like shopping exactly? Or
Speaker 5: do you want to ask on this laundry list of tips?
Speaker 5: What are things guys should not do if they're trying
Speaker 5: to cruise it? Oh my etiquet, talk to me about safety,
Speaker 5: like what's up?
Speaker 1: Okay, if a guy don want to hook up with you,
Speaker 1: do not go.
Speaker 3: Report it to us. Don't tell me that people are
Speaker 3: hooking up because someone saying no to you.
Speaker 1: I know that's what happened. I've had that happen.
Speaker 3: They're hooking up in there. Oh so you mad.
Speaker 1: There's a take down there? How you know exactly?
Speaker 3: Because I try to get back to something saying no, okay,
Speaker 3: so what am I supposed to do? It's very much
Speaker 3: coming to a parent. They're not let me play. What
Speaker 3: were you being nice? Yeah, so don't do that. Please
Speaker 3: don't do that. The second thing is what don't stay
Speaker 3: in the steam room too long. You will pass out,
Speaker 3: you will hit your head. Okay, really like take a
Speaker 3: break every now and be just be aware. Be aware
Speaker 3: of your surroundings. Also, be respectful of other people's space.
Speaker 3: That's one. Don't get too aggressive. But I think though
Speaker 3: these are kind of like baseline cruisy rules, but like
Speaker 3: that's it. I worked exactly. That is just why whenever
Speaker 3: people go there, going up in there and.
Speaker 4: Go you knew they were there, because it's like I've
Speaker 4: seen you hooking up with people in the gym before,
Speaker 4: so like, why are you coming to me?
Speaker 2: Oh, because you got rejected. I'm not gonna say anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you and the gym talk about something. I didn't know
Speaker 2: this was full of sodomites.
Speaker 1: Yes you did, that's why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the gym is literally called Gomora gym.
Speaker 1: You knew it was some citzies in here.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm curious. You've been to gyms with predominantly gay clientele.
Speaker 2: We've also been a very mixed gyms. Yeah, do you
Speaker 2: also cruise women at the gym? Is there a different
Speaker 2: way to go about? Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So when it comes to like women at the gym,
Speaker 3: so much of the past five years has been like,
Speaker 3: please don't bother women who are wearing very tight stuff
Speaker 3: at the gym. So now there is a little bit
Speaker 3: of a kind of return to women ogling men at
Speaker 3: the gym. And so now the men who are very
Speaker 3: vain and very sort of like looks focused. Now I'm
Speaker 3: seeing and have seen over the past couple of years,
Speaker 3: a lot more women be like.
Speaker 1: What's going over there?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 3: And it's all innocent. I don't think it leads anything,
Speaker 3: but it is fun to see women go way does
Speaker 3: it keep going?
Speaker 1: And that's that's what I've.
Speaker 3: Seen no more. I also think that like, I've never
Speaker 3: hit on a girl at the gym if it wasn't
Speaker 3: like already a vibe interaction in space.
Speaker 1: I've never been like, hey, put that down, I gotta
Speaker 1: talk to you. It's always kind of like.
Speaker 3: What you do going over here? It's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: what's happening, And I think that that's even more fun.
Speaker 3: It also does remind me that this conversation is very
Speaker 3: like cis male focused. And then sometimes you go, wait,
Speaker 3: I haven't even been thinking about what the girls are doing,
Speaker 3: So there is a blind spot for for us where
Speaker 3: I'm like, they could have been bumping couchies this whole time.
Speaker 1: We would never know.
Speaker 4: I will say when I was working at that gym,
Speaker 4: there was this woman who was banned from getting a membership,
Speaker 4: and she was inquiring about getting another membership, and she
Speaker 4: was suiting a fake ID et cetera, et cetera, and
Speaker 4: what it had listed is that she was caught in
Speaker 4: the woman's shower with another woman.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: And she was like, it's just my girlfriend, it's fine,
Speaker 4: but like they were fully engaging in sex.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like that.
Speaker 2: You know, well, well if you if you're caught, if
Speaker 2: you get caught, you get get caught.
Speaker 4: And she came in and made a huge fuss at
Speaker 4: the front desk and I was like, this is my partner.
Speaker 3: That you understand.
Speaker 1: I know her man, I believe I thought he put
Speaker 1: it in your mouth. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know, but y'all can't do that, and.
Speaker 2: So I'm curious to in your experience kind of like
Speaker 2: dating and hooking up, have you ever experienced stigma for
Speaker 2: taking PREP or being by like this assumption?
Speaker 1: I think that like no.
Speaker 3: I think the continuing conversation and awareness around PREP is
Speaker 3: making me very happy. I think anyone who is having sex,
Speaker 3: anyone who wants to engage in connonless sex, like talk
Speaker 3: to your healthcare professional about PREP, just have the conversation,
Speaker 3: talk about your risk assessment and the level of awareness
Speaker 3: you want to have around it. I think it's been
Speaker 3: a godsend for by man and for queer men. I
Speaker 3: think there's also a level of transparency that's occurring now
Speaker 3: where it's less and less of a stigma. When me
Speaker 3: and my husband both got our PREP prescriptions, not a
Speaker 3: single one of our friends are like, why y'all doing it?
Speaker 3: Because we have cool friends. But there were probably some
Speaker 3: people who.
Speaker 1: Were like, but if but if you shut the fuck up,
Speaker 1: how about you being an adult?
Speaker 3: Exactly that was yeah, I don't need to know. So
Speaker 3: there was there was like a conversation between my husband
Speaker 3: and I and so then we had that conversation with
Speaker 3: our doctors, and so that was like to be in
Speaker 3: New York and have the freedom to do that and
Speaker 3: feel comfortable enough to do that.
Speaker 1: I was so lucky.
Speaker 3: I hope that trend continues around the country. Whenever I
Speaker 3: see people online being like I want to date this guy,
Speaker 3: but he's on prep, I hate when I said, when
Speaker 3: I see it on Twitter, oh my god, make my
Speaker 3: eyes roll out of my fucking head and out door.
Speaker 3: I just I think that, like, we live in a
Speaker 3: world where if you have access to life saving medication,
Speaker 3: I want more people to have access to it and
Speaker 3: be aware of it. So I've never really faced any stigma.
Speaker 3: A lot of the women who do hit on me
Speaker 3: they love because I'm very loud and by they like
Speaker 3: by men from Jump. It's never like, wait a second,
Speaker 3: I don't know how to feel like. They're very excited.
Speaker 3: They find it by and they go, okay, I go
Speaker 3: in a minute, I thought you had to bring gloves people.
Speaker 3: Oh damn girl, two fingers.
Speaker 1: Watch up Warner brother please.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: There is one option for cruising in a gym that
Speaker 1: we haven't really talked about.
Speaker 4: And that is bath houses. Yes, yes, some bath houses
Speaker 4: have gyms. Some bath houses not the ones here in
Speaker 4: New York, but some there's like one left here in
Speaker 4: New York. Yeah, yeah, and I'm wondering.
Speaker 3: Gym. So that's like so specifically for the purpose of
Speaker 3: cruising that like the cruising questions in a bath house
Speaker 3: like steam works or like a G I Joe in Montreal.
Speaker 3: I went to G I Joe for the first time
Speaker 3: with my husband because we were like, we gotta explore
Speaker 3: what's canon I got going on, and so like we're
Speaker 3: in there just looking.
Speaker 1: It's called in Montreal. Yeah, the one in the village
Speaker 1: in Montreal.
Speaker 3: There are a couple So I think that like they're
Speaker 3: all the rules are kind of like topsy turvy because
Speaker 3: they're if you go, hey, I'm just here to work out,
Speaker 3: I go get the funk out of wrong with you
Speaker 3: disrespecting this sacred space. I am at a point in
Speaker 3: my career right now where sometimes I am a little
Speaker 3: too bath house famous, because like, you don't want this.
Speaker 1: Every time February little antonymity.
Speaker 3: But around the country there are some wonderful bath houses
Speaker 3: where listen by, take it to my show, go to
Speaker 3: bathhouse afterwards, have fun. You might or you might be
Speaker 3: able to spind someone who's at the show with this
Speaker 3: might be it might be my show might be the
Speaker 3: pregame for Steamworks.
Speaker 2: And I do think like we've definitely seen a decline
Speaker 2: in the number of bath houses, at least in New York,
Speaker 2: wondering if like that that kind of goes hand in
Speaker 2: hand with cruising at the gym, right, Like, if we
Speaker 2: don't have these spaces, right, if we don't have bath houses,
Speaker 2: many of which were rated even where they were legaling
Speaker 2: a lot of places unfairly, then like where are we
Speaker 2: supposed to go?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yeah? And where people supposed
Speaker 3: to even go for not necessarily the act, but the
Speaker 3: thrill and just the awareness and just sort of like
Speaker 3: having a sense of like, oh, I feel alive and
Speaker 3: I feel like in my body, I don't I'm never
Speaker 3: gonna be one of those people like you. No one
Speaker 3: should cruise. Cruisiness is wrong, crustiness that just can't. And
Speaker 3: I worked in the gym, so like that. That is
Speaker 3: the company line. The company line is like, don't do it.
Speaker 3: But the added wrinkle to that for me was don't
Speaker 3: let me see you. And also maybe I saw it,
Speaker 3: but don't let by coworkers because I'm gonna be like,
Speaker 3: that's crazy. Wow.
Speaker 1: There was a there's a rule.
Speaker 3: People know this rule. If you are in a steam room.
Speaker 3: That's not like at a bath house. Once again at
Speaker 3: bath house, you know, but at a regular gym, if
Speaker 3: you're like the person closest to the door, you are
Speaker 3: supposed to guard. Oh whoa Okay, And some people they
Speaker 3: get mad because they get in actions going on. They're like,
Speaker 3: I got to be lookout. I'm like, well, yes, you
Speaker 3: have to be the lookout. One of these people was
Speaker 3: the lookout. Then you showed up the lookout.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: It's always so funny whenever I think about that gym,
Speaker 3: because it was like it was like a serious job
Speaker 3: for me because it was like my first job in
Speaker 3: New York, but it also was just a silly gay playground.
Speaker 3: There were moments I was like, this is hilarious.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Okay, So Jay, we were almost at the
Speaker 1: end of the interview.
Speaker 2: There's still a lot more we'd like to know about you,
Speaker 2: So we're gonna shoot you some rapid fire questions.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, spread yeah in the face, all right, describe
Speaker 1: your snippy's profile.
Speaker 3: Oo, look for it. You might not see it.
Speaker 1: That's what That's how I describe it. You might go,
Speaker 1: who was that? What is that? That's what I think
Speaker 1: it is. That's how I'll describe it.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you've done your homework, you should be able
Speaker 2: to I have Yeah, wait a.
Speaker 1: Minute, who was that? It was theefs.
Speaker 3: There we go. Yes, yes, I love white briefs. I
Speaker 3: think white briefs are some of the SA tidy white is.
Speaker 3: You remember they went from being like that's what dad's
Speaker 3: wear to me like that's my damns. Yeah? All right.
Speaker 2: So what is the last message you received on Simpie's
Speaker 2: if you can remember.
Speaker 3: Oh, it probably was like is this one thing? It is perfect? Great? Great? Yeah,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 4: Next question, describe the last person you fucked in three
Speaker 4: words or less.
Speaker 2: Lindsay Graham, So, if you're hooking up with someone, is
Speaker 2: it your place, their place, or a third place? O?
Speaker 1: Their place would be nice?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: My place?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm four flight walk up, so I do test you
Speaker 1: if coming over? I go, all right, get ready? Yeah,
Speaker 1: hey keep up.
Speaker 3: But there are places their plays would be preferred. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I'm nosy of course.
Speaker 4: All right, name an unproblematic straight person unproblematic straight person?
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't, I don't prescribe to the logic that
Speaker 3: straight people are inherently problematic. But one very unproblematic straight person.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, Ja Marcos Sarraci. He's very unproblematic and
Speaker 3: if there, if any problems do arise there he is
Speaker 3: always actively learning. I would also sometimes, now you think
Speaker 3: of a straight person, you go, no, wait a second,
Speaker 3: she's by no ways like she's buy she's by. Because
Speaker 3: I'll try to name one of my girlfriends, I'll be like, no,
Speaker 3: she she'd definitely be much on that cat.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, let me not put her. Oh Marie Fauston.
Speaker 3: Oh she's unproblematic and problematic, but straight and fun and
Speaker 3: a Hatian American goddess who can do no wrong.
Speaker 1: I would love to hear you name a problematic queer person. Oh,
Speaker 1: we gotta get the other side of the coin, problematic queer.
Speaker 1: How much time you got Jesus Christy?
Speaker 2: Oh joy, Oh yeah, oh many?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love everything you're trying to do. But I
Speaker 1: don't think try Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think sort of investigating your divine femininity this
Speaker 3: way is.
Speaker 1: Helpful for us.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, uh, you know, sometimes when
Speaker 3: God gives somebody a raspy voice, and you go, that
Speaker 3: was them trying to tell you to be quiet. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't want, you know, I don't want all the
Speaker 3: Jojo fans to come for me. She got fans. Oh,
Speaker 3: they're gonna come for you, now, careful, she got fans.
Speaker 3: I've been in Disney World, all right.
Speaker 1: What's the corniest opening line that it's worked on you.
Speaker 3: I've had men be like, oh my gosh, I don't
Speaker 3: have your number, and I was like, you're gonna get it.
Speaker 3: I mean straight up be like wait a second, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, I don't have your number, and I was like,
Speaker 3: it worked and you got me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it always does that. What is the last place
Speaker 1: you hooked up with somebody?
Speaker 3: Ooh the last place? Uh, this will get specific living
Speaker 3: room into the bedroom. So with the husband, you know
Speaker 3: when it starts in the living room. But we got
Speaker 3: a new couch, so he has a rule, no jerking
Speaker 3: off on the new couch, no sex on the new couch.
Speaker 3: But like you'll be like, you start to get into
Speaker 3: it and you actually actually we gotta we gotta move. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because he is strict about that. He is strict about
Speaker 3: that new couch. I could put my DNA in another
Speaker 3: person before I put it on that couch.
Speaker 4: All right, last question, Okay, what is your most controversial
Speaker 4: take around cruising sex queer life.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think my most controversial take is that the
Speaker 3: best threesome is an MMF in my opinion, because and
Speaker 3: then it's it's gay, it's straight if the people are
Speaker 3: non bindary. This also applies to non binary people and
Speaker 3: all our gender diverse siblings. I think you're doing something
Speaker 3: that is still taboo. All of these like FFM threesomes
Speaker 3: in the early two thousands kind of like it was
Speaker 3: so scopophilic and it was so through the male gaze,
Speaker 3: and I think that like I think three men having
Speaker 3: a threesome very high, but still like it's still.
Speaker 1: There's holding someone else, you're still following rules.
Speaker 3: I think one of the really boundary pushing things that
Speaker 3: can happen with the threesome is an awakening of queerness
Speaker 3: and voyeurism. And so that happens a lot of times
Speaker 3: in the MMF threes And I know that greedy bisexual
Speaker 3: says it, but I love it. Mm They're so hot
Speaker 3: to me, So I think it's something it's something for
Speaker 3: everybody I know I'm talking about like as a Disney
Speaker 3: Channel show, but it's something for everybody. That person's gonna
Speaker 3: enjoy it. This person's gonna enjoy I stand by it.
Speaker 3: I think it is I think it's top tier. I
Speaker 3: think it's one of the best three things you can have.
Speaker 2: I live for the moment when the dick's almost touched yes,
Speaker 2: or the guy's coming. One comes, the other comes right after.
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you sure you'rel's right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I love that. I love this.
Speaker 3: It's so hot when the guys almost kiss, when the
Speaker 3: guys don't kiss, if the guy's touching the other guys
Speaker 3: dig in, like while dealing with the with the receptive partner. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: uh huh. So to me, very hot, very hot. All right, Jay,
Speaker 3: this has been so much fun. It really has been
Speaker 3: a gas talking to you. But unfortunately we're at the
Speaker 3: end of this interview. No, but okay, well you stick
Speaker 3: around for our cruising confession of course.
Speaker 1: Oh I love being nosy.
Speaker 2: Yes, Now we've heard some of J's locker room cruise confessions,
Speaker 2: but it's time to hear some of yours.
Speaker 6: So I was now there just for a couple of
Speaker 6: days for work and the guy hit me up on
Speaker 6: Sniffy's and told me to meet him at the gym,
Speaker 6: and I was like, okay, but he told me to
Speaker 6: meet him at the gym like eleven o'clock and I
Speaker 6: was like, at the gym closed.
Speaker 3: He was like, I work here.
Speaker 1: WHOA?
Speaker 6: So I ended up me and him at the boutique
Speaker 6: gym and on every fucking machine.
Speaker 3: I fucked him in the pool. I fucked him in Asana.
Speaker 6: Had a big old butt, really nice arms.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 3: Faith was like, what the fuck are we doing in
Speaker 3: this gym?
Speaker 6: And uh we tuck for like an hour in there,
Speaker 6: and then the cleaning baby was.
Speaker 3: Like what are y'all doing? So we had to get
Speaker 3: out of there. But that was lit some.
Speaker 1: People, they just caught a brad. I know I wasn't
Speaker 1: saying something.
Speaker 2: Big old, but and I faced the car that doesn't
Speaker 2: decline that guess what a jo exactly.
Speaker 3: I'm happy for this person. This is how you use
Speaker 3: your privilege and your power and your gym access. Also
Speaker 3: shout at that clean lady. She didn't say get out
Speaker 3: of here, she said what you doing?
Speaker 2: Exact hour after the fat that clean lady was watching
Speaker 2: a little bit because she said I don't think that
Speaker 2: cleaning lady attimp for cleaning up after them. That's what
Speaker 2: I want to yell the equipment when they were done
Speaker 2: with it, I think so like the Patreots don't do it.
Speaker 2: I doubt the employees are good.
Speaker 3: Did you? Yeah, I'll be honest.
Speaker 1: When the story started, I was like, Jay, what did
Speaker 1: you do? And then I was like, Chris, what did
Speaker 1: you do?
Speaker 3: I work here. That is funny whenever someone who is
Speaker 3: like trying to hook up is like they're still very
Speaker 3: you still have the presence of mind to be like
Speaker 3: it's closed work.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, we're gonna get the endless
Speaker 2: guest You said you think the gym, Yeah, there's one
Speaker 2: that's like what And they have treadmills of face right
Speaker 2: out onto the main street.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: And I am constantly getting hit up to go there,
Speaker 2: and people are free with their guest passes.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, I'm trying to suck dick.
Speaker 3: Yours is nice?
Speaker 2: Can I give you a guest pass? Come meet me
Speaker 2: in the steam room. I'm like, this is beautiful, wow,
Speaker 2: lovely welcome.
Speaker 4: The marketing campaign is I mean, I was gonna say
Speaker 4: if I was a membership advisor, I would give all
Speaker 4: my guest passes to the biggest horse. Yeah, so get
Speaker 4: them into the gym and then they're like, I want
Speaker 4: this experience.
Speaker 3: Listen, you need to run a gym because that is genius.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for that Hallmark Channel movie of a story.
Speaker 1: That was beautiful.
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Speaker 1: Face you know, actually play it again? Was that tall
Speaker 1: the parents? All right? Well, thank you again j for
Speaker 1: joining us. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Remind folks where they can see you and find you online.
Speaker 3: Okay, you can watch my special in Hulu. It's called
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Speaker 3: That was wild.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is a great episode, right, It
Speaker 4: was like really amazing to have Jay on to talk
Speaker 4: about literally everything.
Speaker 2: I felt like we were. We were in a new
Speaker 2: hour long special for sure. Jay, We'll go like around
Speaker 2: the entire galaxy and then bring back going back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how did we end up back? We're re started?
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, that's a comedy, baby, that's what happens.
Speaker 2: We get them on a theater, degree and a microphone.
Speaker 2: They know how to structure a story.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: So as we wrap up another season, we did want
Speaker 2: to thank you all for tuning in, for your supportive comments,
Speaker 2: for your very honest feedback, and for your gnarliest sex stories.
Speaker 4: And let's be real, it's kind of scary out there
Speaker 4: right now. We're seeing queer people are being targeted at
Speaker 4: their jobs online and yes, even a place instead of
Speaker 4: a known as cruising spots for decades, but this isn't new.
Speaker 2: For a long time, our community has faced police raids
Speaker 2: on queer venues, targeted arrests for the way we dress,
Speaker 2: and vaguely worded laws used to entrap queer men using
Speaker 2: a bathroom or trans women simply walking down the street.
Speaker 4: So we need to be cautious and rely on each
Speaker 4: other to figure out what's safe and what it's not
Speaker 4: right now. But what we can't do is go back
Speaker 4: into hiding out of fear or shame.
Speaker 2: We will do our best on the pod to keep
Speaker 2: some things that should just be among us among us,
Speaker 2: and we have taken steps to do that this season.
Speaker 2: But we won't be getting any quietor when it comes
Speaker 2: to talking to you frankly, honestly and very proudly about.
Speaker 4: Sex, bigots will always find a way to demonize it
Speaker 4: in chrap Us whether we're loud or quiet, so we
Speaker 4: might as well be mouthy little sluts.
Speaker 1: Let's go absolutely and with that there's a wrap on
Speaker 1: season three. Congrats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you liked what you heard, please share this
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Speaker 2: about this because we would love to come back for
Speaker 2: a season fourth on all.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, don't just leave your thoughts in the comments. Go
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Speaker 2: to the podcast and go, Yeah, we would love to
Speaker 2: see you back for season four. Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is
Speaker 2: directed by Adam Barron, produced by Amanda Kuper and Cameron Femino,
Speaker 2: and executive produced by Eli Market.
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