WEBVTT - Cruising the Locker Room with Jay Jurden

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, viewers.

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<v Speaker 2>Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is an explicit podcast about queer sex.

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<v Speaker 2>Filter dirty words and unfiltered descriptions of sexual activities. If

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<v Speaker 2>hearing about orgies, anonymous sex, kink, fetish, and more offends

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<v Speaker 2>is advised. It's definitely not for kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Put your pussy, put your put your pussy up, Put

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<v Speaker 3>your pussy, put put your pussy.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Gabelon Sadez and.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Christotison Rosso. Each week we explore the sublime world

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<v Speaker 4>of queer sex, cruising, and relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk to queer folks of all kinds.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll ask some questions, swap sex stories, share intimate revelations,

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<v Speaker 2>and provide practical advice that you can use at home.

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<v Speaker 3>Put put Jos, put jo, put put your put put.

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<v Speaker 2>Your so Chris Gabe, you seem like a like a

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<v Speaker 2>diva of gym experience?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>I have been known to dabble, to dabble? Are those

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<v Speaker 2>dabbling must? I was not aware? So yes, you hit

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<v Speaker 2>the gym.

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<v Speaker 1>I do work out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do have a question if I might ask, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what is the hottest or maybe most memorable locker room

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<v Speaker 2>experience you've ever had.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there have been times where I've been in

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<v Speaker 4>the steam room at my gym and it's just like

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<v Speaker 4>the stars are in alignment, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>We're all on the same page, because like sometimes I

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<v Speaker 4>am in the locker room and like the vibe isn't

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<v Speaker 4>quite right. There's that one person who's not comfortable because

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<v Speaker 4>there are straits that go to my gym. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 4>you have to be cognizant of them in the in

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<v Speaker 4>the steamer room, and I forgot. But this time it

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<v Speaker 4>was all queers and we were all ready to go,

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<v Speaker 4>and things got even steamier than normal. It was lovely.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a great time. I really felt fulfilled, is

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<v Speaker 4>what I'll say.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you feel held by community? Sure?

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<v Speaker 4>You felt he absolutely? I was supported. At one point, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I was being held. What about you? What is your

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<v Speaker 4>gym experience? I classically hate gyms. Okay, were is there

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<v Speaker 4>a moment where you had like a sexual wakening in

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<v Speaker 4>a locker room, like think back to like childhood or

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<v Speaker 4>I was not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you can guess I was not

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<v Speaker 2>a very athletic child, so like my puberty was spent

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<v Speaker 2>not in like a locker room. Wow, I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>the arts. I was also what the doctors called the

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<v Speaker 2>precocious puberty.

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<v Speaker 3>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I hit puberty in like the fifth grade. So I

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<v Speaker 2>started sprouting armpit hair. And I was on the swim team, imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>So I started getting like really chubby and sprouting armpit hair.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like the fat hairy kid in class.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an artle kids would like make fun of

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<v Speaker 2>me for my body hair, and I was like really

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<v Speaker 2>self conscious about it. And then like four years passed

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, we all look like this,

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<v Speaker 2>we all have hair. So case you haven't guessed, we

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<v Speaker 2>are talking about a very charged space today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the locker room.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>For a lot of cool people, in the locker room

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<v Speaker 2>is the first place we saw another naked person.

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<v Speaker 1>It's where we took our first group shower and hoped

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<v Speaker 1>and prayed we didn't get.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard or stole forbidden glances at our colleagues or teammates.

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<v Speaker 3>Buts it was a.

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<v Speaker 4>Sight of sexual awakening, which is probably why the locker

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<v Speaker 4>room scene has been staple and Gaye porn for nearly

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<v Speaker 4>fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>So in today's episode, we are going to be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about our ongoing love affair with locker rooms and why

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<v Speaker 2>there's such a turn on. We'll also hear some wild

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<v Speaker 2>and outrageous true stories of locker room lust from one

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<v Speaker 2>of our favorite comedians, the always fit, the always funny,

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Jordan.

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<v Speaker 4>Jay Jorden is a comedian, actor, and Emmy nominated writer

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<v Speaker 4>whose stand up has been featured everywhere from Comedy Central

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<v Speaker 4>to the Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon, The Late Late

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<v Speaker 4>Show with James Gordon, and.

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<v Speaker 3>The Drew Brahm Ray Show.

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<v Speaker 2>He is currently on a big fall comedy tour to

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<v Speaker 2>promote his new comedy special Yes ma'am on Hulu, Please

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Jordan, Hello, Hello, happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>Anonymously, I'm a disembodied Tourso yeah, with that voice, that

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<v Speaker 3>is the thing. That is the thing. People. Now, I've

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<v Speaker 3>officially reached the level of this is what ever level

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<v Speaker 3>of fame is.

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<v Speaker 1>When if I'm ever at a gay bar and.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm acting up a little bit of people go wait

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<v Speaker 3>a minute, you know, hey, hey, watch the special don't

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<v Speaker 3>watch me watch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have voice notes on Sniffy's because I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that would be the one thing that would give

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<v Speaker 2>you away the torso maybe the dudes maybe, but like

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<v Speaker 2>once I heard that voice, I'd be like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>know who stick that?

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<v Speaker 3>Come on. There's a beauty in that, though, there is

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<v Speaker 3>in their connectedness of New York slutty gay people.

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<v Speaker 2>I do call Chris the patriot active gay people in

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<v Speaker 2>New York because Chris can identify anybody based on like

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<v Speaker 2>the weirdest body parts.

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<v Speaker 3>You're the surveillance state.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I'll show him the left bunchee.

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<v Speaker 1>We're on Nancy Dream a little bit. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>all investigative.

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<v Speaker 3>Journalists exactly magnifying class Donald and Tow. Does she know

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<v Speaker 3>about Sniffy's.

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<v Speaker 1>She does?

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<v Speaker 3>I think she does.

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<v Speaker 1>I think because sometimes people they're like with it.

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<v Speaker 3>They know about everything. They knew about bath houses, they

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<v Speaker 3>knew about cruising. But then like there is like a

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<v Speaker 3>level of like sort of once you get out of

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<v Speaker 3>the game, you kind of like, wait a second, the

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<v Speaker 3>kids are doing what? So she doesn't, Rosie, if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't know about Sniffy's I hope you know now in

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<v Speaker 3>Ireland you are season four opening guests. Wow. Yeah, imagine she'd.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the dommiest masquest energy in this room. She would

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<v Speaker 1>tell Bun y'all to shut up, and you'll be.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I would be on my knees.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So j We're so fucking excited.

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<v Speaker 2>You are right now in the middle of a comedy

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<v Speaker 2>toury and you're special on Hulu.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, ma'am, Yes, Hulu, Thank you so much. Hulu Comedy Dynamics.

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<v Speaker 3>It's on Hulu. It came out November seventh. I filmed

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<v Speaker 3>it in New Orleans, a very queer, very southern, very

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<v Speaker 3>black city.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so funny. I filmed it and then I want.

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<v Speaker 3>To say the next night, I went to an underwear

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<v Speaker 3>party at a bar. And you know how sometimes you

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<v Speaker 3>go to a gay bar and you go, what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on back there? To go, Oh, it's like co check,

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<v Speaker 3>you go, this is the underwear party.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that happened to me at precington La.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was like fresh off like a work event.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in a words ceremony. I had on like

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<v Speaker 2>my nicest suit.

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<v Speaker 3>You in a suit?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, girl, I was working in the suit a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a good one. I've never seen you in

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<v Speaker 2>a suit. I know you're wearing a suit jacket, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody ever sees what I wear underneath. I'm like, RuPaul,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know what's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going on on the table.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's such a point of contention, the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that that was exposed and someone was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know sometimes she's not wearing and you go,

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About it if you ever want to, if you ever

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<v Speaker 3>want to be on that show, don't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know that sixty plus year old man isn't

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<v Speaker 2>wearing a corset.

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<v Speaker 1>For catching strays on the City's podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we're celebrating a rupaular every day. You remember when

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<v Speaker 3>you were like, wait a second, is the most famous

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<v Speaker 3>drag queen in this loud ass black old man from Atlanta? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And then you go, oh, that's also Tyler Perry?

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<v Speaker 1>Which one?

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<v Speaker 3>Which one? Which old loud blackness? Is it from Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I talking about? You know what Tyler Perry told me?

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<v Speaker 3>He said, Jay, It's like God told me I put

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<v Speaker 3>on that dress and make me some money.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, I'm really excited that you're here. And one

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<v Speaker 4>of the reasons that I really love you? Is like

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<v Speaker 4>your willingness to talk about sex, yes, and gay sex

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<v Speaker 4>in particular. Yes, How did you get to a place

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<v Speaker 4>where you felt comfortable sharing that like on stage?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I never did comedy in the closet.

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<v Speaker 3>I know some people like did comedy under your straight personas,

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<v Speaker 3>and they finally got to come out that it was

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit wild than twenty twenty three, and people like,

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<v Speaker 3>can you believe I'm gay? I was like, girl, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you filmed it in the village, but I never wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be in the closet on stage, primarily because one,

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<v Speaker 3>you have like these micro tells wherever now, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be talking about something and let's say you choose

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<v Speaker 3>to use gender nonspecific pronouns. People clock that. Let's say

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<v Speaker 3>you always kind of talk around your personal life people

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<v Speaker 3>in the audience and other comments, They'll be like, wait

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<v Speaker 3>a second, it was gone. And so then you have

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<v Speaker 3>these kind of almost self hating moments where you go, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want talk about any gay stuff. You'd be like,

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<v Speaker 3>wait a second. If I don't talk about gay stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no guarantee anyone's gonna talk about gay stuff at

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<v Speaker 3>this straight ass Mike. So then you kind of find

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<v Speaker 3>the fun and the taboo and the transgressive nature of

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<v Speaker 3>queer sex in a straight setting. Because now a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of these a lot of these straight boy comedians, all

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<v Speaker 3>of these straight men who do comedy, they think gay

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<v Speaker 3>sex is super funny, and you go, okay, sometimes it is,

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<v Speaker 3>but gay sex isn't funny because two people love each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Gay sex is funny because have you ever tried to

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<v Speaker 3>turn a door handle with lube on your hand?

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<v Speaker 2>That's fun you yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Gay sex is funny because you go, hey, are.

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<v Speaker 3>You killing him?

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying slate.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when gay sex is funny, because sex is funny.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I always wanted to be very open, and

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be as specific as possible sometimes because

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<v Speaker 3>through that specificity you get a lot of comedy. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's why my monkey pox jokes is very funny, just

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<v Speaker 3>because there was a specifisty when we were all getting

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<v Speaker 3>the monkey pops vaccine and you show up in the

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<v Speaker 3>Bronx and be like the Queen's were out Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>If you hear that means you can.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a long standing tradition of being able

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about taboo subjects and for some people, queer sex,

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<v Speaker 3>especially male centered queer sex, and comedy settings. What happens

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of times in comedy, and I hate that

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<v Speaker 3>I even have to say it this way, is that

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<v Speaker 3>like people can map sapphic and lesbian comics onto straight

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<v Speaker 3>male comics because at the end of the day they think, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>they just talking about bitches no matter what. So okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I can when it gets to like actual queerness and

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<v Speaker 3>femininity presented through a kind of male presenting body and

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<v Speaker 3>anything that's actually really transgressive and really taboo, it's so

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<v Speaker 3>scary for people. People like what, I didn't even I

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<v Speaker 3>have straight people still come up with me. They go,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even usually like gay comedy, but you And

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<v Speaker 3>then I go and I go, man, stop looking at me.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop your girlfriends right here, right here, right here, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>but put at least on him so I can watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Megan bar.

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<v Speaker 1>And she will.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm okay with some of these straight us come up

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<v Speaker 3>to me like, oh man, I really like your stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not okay with them being like I don't like

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<v Speaker 3>gay people accept you. I hate that ship and that

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<v Speaker 3>that's like that's like when I mean that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>when people go, I don't even like wrap, and you go, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, but yeah, that's uh. I'm very lucky in

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<v Speaker 3>the since that I've been able to curate and cultivate

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<v Speaker 3>a fan base that is pretty open and accepting and

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<v Speaker 3>like hopefully growing.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so ju, I want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>gym a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you are yoked by comedy standards, by any standards,

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<v Speaker 2>but right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm dressed like like a graduate teaching. I was wondering, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to play with I'm trying to play with reveals.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you can see some stuff through just a little yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you can see stuff through Oversize things make it

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<v Speaker 3>very fun. I didn't want to be whore like y'all

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<v Speaker 3>kind of covered, you know what I mean. We need

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<v Speaker 3>one of these shirts though. But I love the gym.

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<v Speaker 3>The gym is what got me through my first couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years in New York. When I first moved here,

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<v Speaker 3>I was a personal trainer and that was the first

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<v Speaker 3>thing I did, and then I started doing comedy and

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<v Speaker 3>it was a job that actually lined up pretty well

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<v Speaker 3>with comedy, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. I worked at a gym and after plays.

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<v Speaker 3>So I know the name has changed, but if you

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<v Speaker 3>know where it is, you know where it is. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's the gym where I first started working New

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<v Speaker 3>York and it was so gay when I got there,

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<v Speaker 3>huge discoll on the second floor with the DJ booth inside. Period.

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<v Speaker 3>Amanda Laport was like at the opening of this gym,

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<v Speaker 3>this gym was like it was one of those gyms

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<v Speaker 3>that was a nightlife gym that also was like basically

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<v Speaker 3>the pregame for a lot of people before they went out,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was always packed. Anderson Cooper was at this

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<v Speaker 3>gym for a little bit. I told one story where

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I was like just being silly with

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<v Speaker 3>one of my personal trainer friends and he's like, Jay,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you maintain size but also meantain definition. I said, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna believe me. Come, you gotta drink more. Come.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, is the protein? I said, no, it's a zinc.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, that's you're not You're not getting your micro nutrients.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like before I was doing scam up, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like basically workshopping sets in the gym. I go

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<v Speaker 3>to another group of trainers and I'm about to tell

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<v Speaker 3>this joke, and then who's with these trainers right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Anderson Cooper. So I'm like, shut up, But I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about second dick in front of Anson Cooper.

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<v Speaker 3>He ain't this like the first time that gym was insane,

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<v Speaker 3>primarily because it was also a place where you would

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<v Speaker 3>see people there for a very specific reason, gymnasium means

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<v Speaker 3>naked place. They were taking full advantage of that downstairs,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was a trainer who would definitely turn a

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<v Speaker 3>blind eye simply because I'm not a fucking cop. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not a cop, I'm not a narc So if someone

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<v Speaker 3>was down there for a little bit, I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead, that's right, I'm gonna go over here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the craziest thing that ever happened one time I was

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<v Speaker 3>upstairs and I saw like fire truck, fire truck, ambulance.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently someone was in the steam room a little too long.

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<v Speaker 3>Take a break, everyone psa, take a break. He's in

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<v Speaker 3>there too long, passed out, fell and then you know

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<v Speaker 3>he had to be carried out. He wasn't dead, but

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<v Speaker 3>as he was getting carried out, the meanest thing someone

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<v Speaker 3>said is what are you going to tell his wife?

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<v Speaker 3>Before there was any other gym or I saw a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of queenie muscly men who got to be gay,

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<v Speaker 3>like gay with the capitol G. Not scared of straight

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<v Speaker 3>men being all the wicks in here like that was

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<v Speaker 3>the gym, and so it was a place for them

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<v Speaker 3>both feel free and feel empowered.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was very happy.

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<v Speaker 3>It was one of those things that definitely informed my

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<v Speaker 3>comedic persona. I was like, Oh, these people can be

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<v Speaker 3>this loud and gay in the gym. I can be

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<v Speaker 3>this loud and gay on stage, of course. So it

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<v Speaker 3>was one of those things that I was happy I

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<v Speaker 3>got to see. It also didn't give me any sort

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<v Speaker 3>of like, it didn't give me any sort of issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when I was at that gym, I could talk

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<v Speaker 3>about queer stuff, I could talk about gym stuff, I

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<v Speaker 3>can talk about nerdy stuff. I could talk about whatever

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to and it was fine. We even had

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<v Speaker 3>my boss. He loved gay trainers, specifically because being a

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<v Speaker 3>trainer required knowledge and rapport and while gay guys sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>don't have burns, they do not, but the ability to

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<v Speaker 3>communicate and the rapport both with female clients. With female clients,

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<v Speaker 3>there's like a girl, let me tell you aspect. With

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<v Speaker 3>male clients, there's okay here if you want to look

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<v Speaker 3>good for men, I can tell you how to look.

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<v Speaker 3>And then with straight clients, straight client, whenever you had

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<v Speaker 3>a straight client in that gym, you were like, this

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<v Speaker 3>is not a zoo, but isn't this crazy? Don't feed them?

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, hungry. I mean. It's also where I saw

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<v Speaker 3>I saw trans people go to the gym without feeling weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw non binary people go to the gym without

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<v Speaker 3>feeling weird. And that was like a huge thing for

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<v Speaker 3>me coming from the South because I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my gosh, So let's go back in time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm wondering if you can remember your earliest sexual

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<v Speaker 4>awakening in the gym or locker room.

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<v Speaker 3>Locker room?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, okay, so locker room, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Whenever I was in high school, that's when we had

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<v Speaker 3>to take like gym, and so they would make us

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<v Speaker 3>change in the locker room. And that's the first time

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<v Speaker 3>you see anyone else in because like you'd be at home,

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<v Speaker 3>you see yourself in you're underwhere, but in high school

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<v Speaker 3>because everyone this is I'm aiding myself a bit. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>wearing boxers, so you you were seeing movement.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in the morning, I'm in a locker room with

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of my classmates. I'm seeing them get undressed.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting undressed, and the whole time like this is

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<v Speaker 3>crazy what they just let us look at this? We

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be in here. But then at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>like this is cool. Everyone be cool, Everyone be cool.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the first time. Like you also notice like

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<v Speaker 3>whose penises were like clocking in for work, Like who

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<v Speaker 3>like who like got the adult dicks? Right in high

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<v Speaker 3>school you're like, wait a second, whoa teacher?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a man in here. I'm still but a boy adults.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there were like all these silly and like

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<v Speaker 3>fun moments where like I remember one of my best friends,

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<v Speaker 3>he was notorious for like mooning people. Every time he

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<v Speaker 3>mooned people as a non out, but definitely I knew

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<v Speaker 3>something was going on. I'd be like, that's a good book.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, we're so thankful.

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<v Speaker 2>We grew up in the era of jackass, oh streight

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<v Speaker 2>men naked when I was in high school, of butts

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<v Speaker 2>and balls.

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<v Speaker 3>You would see the we went to high school during

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<v Speaker 3>the I got a piece of gum on my leg

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<v Speaker 3>era where you'd be like, that's okay. So around a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of straight boys they were shorts, they'd be like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I have a piece of gum on my

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<v Speaker 3>leg and you look at their upper thigh and they

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<v Speaker 3>would have like stretched their testicle out to make it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a little surprise. It was like a little

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hang out with boys in school.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I was notorious for being like I wasst being like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>me and the boys ain'tnging out. Ladies get out of

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<v Speaker 3>here over here doing crazy stuff like jacking out.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have any mutual masturbatory experiences with my good

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<v Speaker 3>friends from high school. But I did have, like you

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<v Speaker 3>compare notes, they'd like show you a like a I

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<v Speaker 3>gave them, like a porn thing, and you show them

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<v Speaker 3>your porn thing, and somebody should be like, okay, you

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<v Speaker 3>can have the Oh I'm gonna give you this DVD

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<v Speaker 3>or oh, I'm gonna show you this website. And so

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<v Speaker 3>you would never jernk off together, but you would be

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<v Speaker 3>like erect together.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you would be like you'd be like if he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard, yeah, and I'm hard when his mom get home,

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<v Speaker 2>you've worked at some of the gayest gyms you've worked at,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the rowdiest most like mixed crowd guy gyms

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<v Speaker 2>or all gyms created equal? Are you is a vibe

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<v Speaker 2>always equally cruisy, but just going in different directions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So every time you have that much man stink,

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<v Speaker 3>if you have that much must in a place, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a must. It's a must that you must. It's a must.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what happens is that attracts more men. And

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<v Speaker 3>so some places it's very kind of old school cruisy,

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<v Speaker 3>like you get a little bit of eye contact. Boom

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<v Speaker 3>be bock boom, And so some people they do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people you see them on their phone all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people think they're on the phone. Like the social media,

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<v Speaker 3>it's always an app. It's there's always an app pulled

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<v Speaker 3>up at a gym where people are geolocating. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>one aspect of it. And then there's something I called

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<v Speaker 3>sort of old fashion and this is kind of where

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<v Speaker 3>I usually fall, where you see people kind of be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen you here a couple of times, let's exchange

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<v Speaker 3>I g that's like and sometimes that's just like building

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<v Speaker 3>friendship and camaraderie, and you don't even fuck those people.

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<v Speaker 1>Half the time. You're just like a gay person here.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank god.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know if I go up to you and

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<v Speaker 1>ask you how many sets you have left.

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<v Speaker 3>On how to be like, hey, how many? I'd be

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<v Speaker 3>like girls, Yeah, I'd be like, hey, guess what your

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<v Speaker 3>ass is great? Get off, get off the leg press.

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<v Speaker 3>I need your squat depth is fine. I've seen the

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<v Speaker 3>hall okay, And sometimes that comfort level is present in

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<v Speaker 3>straight relationships and in gay relationships, and I was lucky

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<v Speaker 3>that I got to experience both parts of it. I

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<v Speaker 3>had like good friends who were like super straight who

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<v Speaker 3>I went to gym with. One of the men who

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<v Speaker 3>I met at a gym, I want to say, right

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<v Speaker 3>before the pandemic, we became close. He was he was fun,

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<v Speaker 3>but he was like this this jack dude in his

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<v Speaker 3>like I want to say, late fifties, early sixties, looks.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, just so charming. He told me he's like, oh, I.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a professional bodybuilder, but I'm all natural. I do

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<v Speaker 3>like the older class. And he was crushing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then one day he was like, and you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to do porn. And he started doing porn.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna tell y'all it's good porn.

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<v Speaker 3>He looks good. It was just wild because he like

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<v Speaker 3>he knew I was queer, and he's not doing gay porn,

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<v Speaker 3>he's doing straight porn. But it was But it was

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<v Speaker 3>just like one of y'all look disappointed. I was. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, but you're training.

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<v Speaker 2>You're putting in the training to be the leading lady,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you're going into a genre where you will always.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the supporting cast.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the wild part. He felt so comfortable because

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<v Speaker 3>he knew I was queer. That like, there's a and

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<v Speaker 3>tell me if y'all disagree with queer people. If you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>i'm a sex worker queer people, we've become way less

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<v Speaker 3>judgmental because we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, celebrate that. So you're picking up dinner, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I heard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when I heard is getting some past as, we're

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<v Speaker 3>getting some for the table. Since you fucking for money,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get let's bring the menu back. That's hurt ye.

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<v Speaker 3>So for him to confide with that in me, I

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<v Speaker 3>felt really really good. It was just one of those thingshere.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my god, this is like the

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<v Speaker 3>gym and queer stuff and porny stuff and sex stuff

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<v Speaker 3>all together. So and something that boomers are way more

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable with than like millennials and Gen Z because like

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<v Speaker 3>boomers and Gen xers, them digs be out.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, if a person is over fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Five, the minute they walk on the gym, they dig

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<v Speaker 3>out and they mad that yours ain't right?

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<v Speaker 1>What you doing this locker rooms?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're just here to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And if I don't know, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be a conspiracies, but them old man dicks maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn careful boomer digs that play. We all saw a

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:26.880
<v Speaker 1>lemon party. We all.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's funny that you bring that up.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like younger folks are maybe like less comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>getting naked sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do think there's a generational divide here.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's so funny because when we're talking about hooking

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<v Speaker 2>up in locker rooms, I'm wondering if you see that

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<v Speaker 2>same general divide when it comes to like turning a

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<v Speaker 2>blind eye to folks hooking up versus something else.

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<v Speaker 3>I think logistics specifically, when we're talking about like penetrative

0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 3>if we're talking about mutual masturbation, we're talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fun it's fun bull job situation. Those things I think

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<v Speaker 3>can happen a bit kind of more slide if we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about a full on kind of insertion level. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if we're there, then logistics proves that you either douched

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<v Speaker 3>there or you came douched and dangerous and that.

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<v Speaker 1>Next album, which would.

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<v Speaker 3>Frankie put it out, put.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Until I know people who worked at like berries

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff, and they they find like little fleet they

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 3>find like a little empties, like travel sized fleets.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, just like a regularize, regular size.

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<v Speaker 3>The logistics of gay sex sometimes does make it like

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<v Speaker 3>a bit more. It's an extra step. I don't think

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.399
<v Speaker 3>gen Z is like opposed to like people hooking up

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<v Speaker 3>and bathroom go out the clubs. They like people looking

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<v Speaker 3>up in bathrooms, And if you think about like that,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they're probably they're fed a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>like puritanical kind of prudy.

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<v Speaker 1>Bullshit online when everyone's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you should never know you go you never you

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:17.439
<v Speaker 3>never put your hand on your pants in the club,

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:24.400
<v Speaker 3>never listen. I think it was the poet Dojah Cats

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:29.640
<v Speaker 3>who said dick in the bathroom, that's correct on a hills. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that like a fun little gym moment.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's beautiful. I think it's well within the

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Roman and Greek tradition. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's closer than the original gymnasium.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Actually, I think you're being a history buff at

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 3>that point. You should get extra credit on your degree.

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 3>You're not intellectual, You're an intellectual, you're a historian.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a community member.

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean you're you're lifting up those at the lowest.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's mutual aid, absolutely absolutely, yes, community right, Yeah,

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:04.680
<v Speaker 3>I kind of borrow a couple of sugar and something else,

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we're going to hear some of

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Jay's patented tips that's right, patented for a cruising the

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<v Speaker 2>locker room, and we will also hear some cruising confessions

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<v Speaker 2>from our listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see after the break. See you after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>We are talking to Jay Jorden about his horny days

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<v Speaker 2>working at New York City's most notoriously cruisey Jim, And

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<v Speaker 2>in this act, we are going to ask Jay for

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<v Speaker 2>some helpful hints to aid in your own locker room sessions.

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<v Speaker 1>Hypothetically, if you were to engage if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>engage in bird watch. Sure, yes, yes, my favorite pastime

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:48.120
<v Speaker 1>of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. All right.

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<v Speaker 4>First question, okay, what advice would you give for someone

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<v Speaker 4>who's looking to cruise in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, after you establish where you're going to be,

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 3>make eye contact. Also a fun thing you can do

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 3>is shower, have a towel. You're always sort of readjusting

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 3>and adjusting the towel, so it's never that you were

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 3>naked or horny. I'm just getting dressed. I'm just drying off.

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 3>My upper thigh is just very moist. I just have

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 3>to keep patting this area. So that's one thing. Also

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:23.160
<v Speaker 3>like beat chill, like some people like when it comes

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 3>to like a gym like that, like they go, oh

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:26.919
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking. I go no, no, just relax a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>If it happens, it happens, If it doesn't, it doesn't,

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 3>because like that's also there's an element of a luck

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 3>and probability and chance no matter what. So relax a

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 3>little bit, Just be chip, be cool. Seeing your first

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 3>time here. You know what to do and compliment people.

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Compliment people. It's never as a vert is like all

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 3>let's go drink off but oh man, you look great.

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 3>You look oh you look great. Oh my god, your

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 3>back looks amazing. If you compliment a man's back, it's

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 3>a putty in your hands for sure. What is the

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<v Speaker 3>best time of day if you're looking at hook up? Okay,

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 3>I would say for most people, it's gonna be some

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 3>sort of afternoon to post work rush. So they're the

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 3>people that are there on a lunch break that kind

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 3>of probably need to get in and out very quickly.

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 3>And then there's also the people who just got done

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.719
<v Speaker 3>with the works. That's like a five forty six o'clock like,

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 3>and the gym is packed then, so there you have

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 3>a bundy of people.

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<v Speaker 1>So, especially if the gym is cruisy, that's when you do.

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 3>And some people go very early morning, but that's how

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 3>some people want to start their day. That's you know,

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 3>that's a little while. For me, that's eight am, nine am.

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you but blowjobs before noon? Yeah? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>You got a power point you gotta finish.

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<v Speaker 4>You mentioned this earlier about people being on the apps. Yes,

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 4>while at the gym. Should people be using the apps

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<v Speaker 4>to career?

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Use the apps?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, once again, within reason, I think that in

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.919
<v Speaker 3>person interactions. I think an app should always lead to

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 3>like an assessment in like, okay, how do I feel

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 3>about this before? Like everything is kind of said and done.

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 3>But that if that helps you make friends, if that

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 3>helps you meet new people, go for it. Use an

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 3>app in the gym. It is funny when you go

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 3>to some gyms and everyone you see a bunch of

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 3>blue screens. You go, okay, all right. I mean, have

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.400
<v Speaker 3>y'all seen the video where the Sniffy's map was pulled

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 3>up on the Kiosk Island Island.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Sniffy's Kiosk was one of the most popular

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:28.719
<v Speaker 2>things sent to me this summer.

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<v Speaker 5>Is there where people they were like shopping exactly? Or

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 5>do you want to ask on this laundry list of tips?

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 5>What are things guys should not do if they're trying

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 5>to cruise it? Oh my etiquet, talk to me about safety,

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:43.719
<v Speaker 5>like what's up?

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, if a guy don want to hook up with you,

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>do not go.

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Report it to us. Don't tell me that people are

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 3>hooking up because someone saying no to you.

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I know that's what happened. I've had that happen.

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<v Speaker 3>They're hooking up in there. Oh so you mad.

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>There's a take down there? How you know exactly?

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:04.719
<v Speaker 3>Because I try to get back to something saying no, okay,

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 3>so what am I supposed to do? It's very much

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 3>coming to a parent. They're not let me play. What

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 3>were you being nice? Yeah, so don't do that. Please

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 3>don't do that. The second thing is what don't stay

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 3>in the steam room too long. You will pass out,

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 3>you will hit your head. Okay, really like take a

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 3>break every now and be just be aware. Be aware

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 3>of your surroundings. Also, be respectful of other people's space.

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 3>That's one. Don't get too aggressive. But I think though

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 3>these are kind of like baseline cruisy rules, but like

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 3>that's it. I worked exactly. That is just why whenever

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 3>people go there, going up in there and.

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 4>Go you knew they were there, because it's like I've

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 4>seen you hooking up with people in the gym before,

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 4>so like, why are you coming to me?

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, because you got rejected. I'm not gonna say anything. Yeah,

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 2>you and the gym talk about something. I didn't know

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 2>this was full of sodomites.

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes you did, that's why.

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the gym is literally called Gomora gym.

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>You knew it was some citzies in here.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm curious. You've been to gyms with predominantly gay clientele.

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>We've also been a very mixed gyms. Yeah, do you

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 2>also cruise women at the gym? Is there a different

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 2>way to go about? Oh?

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So when it comes to like women at the gym,

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 3>so much of the past five years has been like,

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 3>please don't bother women who are wearing very tight stuff

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 3>at the gym. So now there is a little bit

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 3>of a kind of return to women ogling men at

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 3>the gym. And so now the men who are very

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 3>vain and very sort of like looks focused. Now I'm

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 3>seeing and have seen over the past couple of years,

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 3>a lot more women be like.

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>What's going over there?

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Wow?

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 3>And it's all innocent. I don't think it leads anything,

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 3>but it is fun to see women go way does

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 3>it keep going?

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's what I've.

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Seen no more. I also think that like, I've never

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 3>hit on a girl at the gym if it wasn't

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 3>like already a vibe interaction in space.

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I've never been like, hey, put that down, I gotta

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>talk to you. It's always kind of like.

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 3>What you do going over here? It's like, oh, okay,

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 3>what's happening, And I think that that's even more fun.

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 3>It also does remind me that this conversation is very

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 3>like cis male focused. And then sometimes you go, wait,

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I haven't even been thinking about what the girls are doing,

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 3>So there is a blind spot for for us where

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, they could have been bumping couchies this whole time.

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>We would never know.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say when I was working at that gym,

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 4>there was this woman who was banned from getting a membership,

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 4>and she was inquiring about getting another membership, and she

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 4>was suiting a fake ID et cetera, et cetera, and

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 4>what it had listed is that she was caught in

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 4>the woman's shower with another woman.

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 4>And she was like, it's just my girlfriend, it's fine,

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 4>but like they were fully engaging in sex.

0:31:58.200 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like that.

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, well, well if you if you're caught, if

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>you get caught, you get get caught.

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 4>And she came in and made a huge fuss at

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 4>the front desk and I was like, this is my partner.

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 3>That you understand.

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I know her man, I believe I thought he put

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:17.719
<v Speaker 1>it in your mouth. I don't know.

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 3>I know, but y'all can't do that, and.

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 2>So I'm curious to in your experience kind of like

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 2>dating and hooking up, have you ever experienced stigma for

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 2>taking PREP or being by like this assumption?

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that like no.

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I think the continuing conversation and awareness around PREP is

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 3>making me very happy. I think anyone who is having sex,

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 3>anyone who wants to engage in connonless sex, like talk

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 3>to your healthcare professional about PREP, just have the conversation,

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 3>talk about your risk assessment and the level of awareness

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 3>you want to have around it. I think it's been

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 3>a godsend for by man and for queer men. I

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 3>think there's also a level of transparency that's occurring now

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 3>where it's less and less of a stigma. When me

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 3>and my husband both got our PREP prescriptions, not a

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 3>single one of our friends are like, why y'all doing it?

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Because we have cool friends. But there were probably some

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 3>people who.

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Were like, but if but if you shut the fuck up,

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>how about you being an adult?

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Exactly that was yeah, I don't need to know. So

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 3>there was there was like a conversation between my husband

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 3>and I and so then we had that conversation with

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 3>our doctors, and so that was like to be in

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 3>New York and have the freedom to do that and

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 3>feel comfortable enough to do that.

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I was so lucky.

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 3>I hope that trend continues around the country. Whenever I

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 3>see people online being like I want to date this guy,

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 3>but he's on prep, I hate when I said, when

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 3>I see it on Twitter, oh my god, make my

0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 3>eyes roll out of my fucking head and out door.

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 3>I just I think that, like, we live in a

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 3>world where if you have access to life saving medication,

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 3>I want more people to have access to it and

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 3>be aware of it. So I've never really faced any stigma.

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 3>A lot of the women who do hit on me

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 3>they love because I'm very loud and by they like

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 3>by men from Jump. It's never like, wait a second,

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to feel like. They're very excited.

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 3>They find it by and they go, okay, I go

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 3>in a minute, I thought you had to bring gloves people.

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh damn girl, two fingers.

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Watch up Warner brother please.

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>There is one option for cruising in a gym that

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 1>we haven't really talked about.

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 4>And that is bath houses. Yes, yes, some bath houses

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 4>have gyms. Some bath houses not the ones here in

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 4>New York, but some there's like one left here in

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 4>New York. Yeah, yeah, and I'm wondering.

0:34:56.040 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Gym. So that's like so specifically for the purpose of

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 3>cruising that like the cruising questions in a bath house

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 3>like steam works or like a G I Joe in Montreal.

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 3>I went to G I Joe for the first time

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 3>with my husband because we were like, we gotta explore

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 3>what's canon I got going on, and so like we're

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 3>in there just looking.

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 1>It's called in Montreal. Yeah, the one in the village

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>in Montreal.

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 3>There are a couple So I think that like they're

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 3>all the rules are kind of like topsy turvy because

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 3>they're if you go, hey, I'm just here to work out,

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I go get the funk out of wrong with you

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 3>disrespecting this sacred space. I am at a point in

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 3>my career right now where sometimes I am a little

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 3>too bath house famous, because like, you don't want this.

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Every time February little antonymity.

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 3>But around the country there are some wonderful bath houses

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 3>where listen by, take it to my show, go to

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 3>bathhouse afterwards, have fun. You might or you might be

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 3>able to spind someone who's at the show with this

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 3>might be it might be my show might be the

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 3>pregame for Steamworks.

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.760
<v Speaker 2>And I do think like we've definitely seen a decline

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 2>in the number of bath houses, at least in New York,

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 2>wondering if like that that kind of goes hand in

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 2>hand with cruising at the gym, right, Like, if we

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 2>don't have these spaces, right, if we don't have bath houses,

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 2>many of which were rated even where they were legaling

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 2>a lot of places unfairly, then like where are we

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 2>supposed to go?

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? Yeah? And where people supposed

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 3>to even go for not necessarily the act, but the

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 3>thrill and just the awareness and just sort of like

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 3>having a sense of like, oh, I feel alive and

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 3>I feel like in my body, I don't I'm never

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 3>gonna be one of those people like you. No one

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 3>should cruise. Cruisiness is wrong, crustiness that just can't. And

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 3>I worked in the gym, so like that. That is

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 3>the company line. The company line is like, don't do it.

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 3>But the added wrinkle to that for me was don't

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 3>let me see you. And also maybe I saw it,

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 3>but don't let by coworkers because I'm gonna be like,

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 3>that's crazy. Wow.

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:58.359
<v Speaker 1>There was a there's a rule.

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 3>People know this rule. If you are in a steam room.

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 3>That's not like at a bath house. Once again at

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 3>bath house, you know, but at a regular gym, if

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 3>you're like the person closest to the door, you are

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 3>supposed to guard. Oh whoa Okay, And some people they

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 3>get mad because they get in actions going on. They're like,

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I got to be lookout. I'm like, well, yes, you

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 3>have to be the lookout. One of these people was

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 3>the lookout. Then you showed up the lookout.

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 3>It's always so funny whenever I think about that gym,

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.879
<v Speaker 3>because it was like it was like a serious job

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 3>for me because it was like my first job in

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 3>New York, but it also was just a silly gay playground.

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 3>There were moments I was like, this is hilarious.

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Okay, So Jay, we were almost at the

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>end of the interview.

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 2>There's still a lot more we'd like to know about you,

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna shoot you some rapid fire questions.

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, spread yeah in the face, all right, describe

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>your snippy's profile.

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Oo, look for it. You might not see it.

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>That's what That's how I describe it. You might go,

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>who was that? What is that? That's what I think

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>it is. That's how I'll describe it.

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, if you've done your homework, you should be able

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 2>to I have Yeah, wait a.

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Minute, who was that? It was theefs.

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 3>There we go. Yes, yes, I love white briefs. I

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 3>think white briefs are some of the SA tidy white is.

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 3>You remember they went from being like that's what dad's

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 3>wear to me like that's my damns. Yeah? All right.

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.240
<v Speaker 2>So what is the last message you received on Simpie's

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 2>if you can remember.

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it probably was like is this one thing? It is perfect? Great? Great? Yeah,

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 3>all right.

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 4>Next question, describe the last person you fucked in three

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 4>words or less.

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Lindsay Graham, So, if you're hooking up with someone, is

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 2>it your place, their place, or a third place? O?

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Their place would be nice?

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>My place?

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm four flight walk up, so I do test you

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:03.720
<v Speaker 1>if coming over? I go, all right, get ready? Yeah,

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 1>hey keep up.

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 3>But there are places their plays would be preferred. Yeah,

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 3>so I'm nosy of course.

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 4>All right, name an unproblematic straight person unproblematic straight person?

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't, I don't prescribe to the logic that

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 3>straight people are inherently problematic. But one very unproblematic straight person.

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say, Ja Marcos Sarraci. He's very unproblematic and

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 3>if there, if any problems do arise there he is

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 3>always actively learning. I would also sometimes, now you think

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 3>of a straight person, you go, no, wait a second,

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 3>she's by no ways like she's buy she's by. Because

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll try to name one of my girlfriends, I'll be like, no,

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 3>she she'd definitely be much on that cat.

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Wait a second, let me not put her. Oh Marie Fauston.

0:39:54.800 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh she's unproblematic and problematic, but straight and fun and

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 3>a Hatian American goddess who can do no wrong.

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear you name a problematic queer person. Oh,

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:08.800
<v Speaker 1>we gotta get the other side of the coin, problematic queer.

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:11.840
<v Speaker 1>How much time you got Jesus Christy?

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh joy, Oh yeah, oh many?

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I love everything you're trying to do. But I

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 1>don't think try Yeah, I don't.

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't think sort of investigating your divine femininity this

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 3>way is.

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Helpful for us.

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, you know, uh, you know, sometimes when

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 3>God gives somebody a raspy voice, and you go, that

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 3>was them trying to tell you to be quiet. So yeah,

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't want, you know, I don't want all the

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Jojo fans to come for me. She got fans. Oh,

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna come for you, now, careful, she got fans.

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 3>I've been in Disney World, all right.

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 1>What's the corniest opening line that it's worked on you.

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:05.919
<v Speaker 3>I've had men be like, oh my gosh, I don't

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:10.319
<v Speaker 3>have your number, and I was like, you're gonna get it.

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean straight up be like wait a second, oh

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 3>my gosh, I don't have your number, and I was like,

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 3>it worked and you got me.

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it always does that. What is the last place

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you hooked up with somebody?

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Ooh the last place? Uh, this will get specific living

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 3>room into the bedroom. So with the husband, you know

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 3>when it starts in the living room. But we got

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 3>a new couch, so he has a rule, no jerking

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 3>off on the new couch, no sex on the new couch.

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 3>But like you'll be like, you start to get into

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 3>it and you actually actually we gotta we gotta move. Yeah,

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 3>because he is strict about that. He is strict about

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 3>that new couch. I could put my DNA in another

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 3>person before I put it on that couch.

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 4>All right, last question, Okay, what is your most controversial

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 4>take around cruising sex queer life.

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I think my most controversial take is that the

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 3>best threesome is an MMF in my opinion, because and

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 3>then it's it's gay, it's straight if the people are

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 3>non bindary. This also applies to non binary people and

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 3>all our gender diverse siblings. I think you're doing something

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:25.839
<v Speaker 3>that is still taboo. All of these like FFM threesomes

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 3>in the early two thousands kind of like it was

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 3>so scopophilic and it was so through the male gaze,

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 3>and I think that like I think three men having

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 3>a threesome very high, but still like it's still.

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>There's holding someone else, you're still following rules.

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 3>I think one of the really boundary pushing things that

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 3>can happen with the threesome is an awakening of queerness

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:53.760
<v Speaker 3>and voyeurism. And so that happens a lot of times

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 3>in the MMF threes And I know that greedy bisexual

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 3>says it, but I love it. Mm They're so hot

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 3>to me, So I think it's something it's something for

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 3>everybody I know I'm talking about like as a Disney

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 3>Channel show, but it's something for everybody. That person's gonna

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 3>enjoy it. This person's gonna enjoy I stand by it.

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 3>I think it is I think it's top tier. I

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 3>think it's one of the best three things you can have.

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I live for the moment when the dick's almost touched yes,

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 2>or the guy's coming. One comes, the other comes right after.

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, are you sure you'rel's right?

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But I love that. I love this.

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 3>It's so hot when the guys almost kiss, when the

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 3>guys don't kiss, if the guy's touching the other guys

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 3>dig in, like while dealing with the with the receptive partner. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 3>uh huh. So to me, very hot, very hot. All right, Jay,

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 3>this has been so much fun. It really has been

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.800
<v Speaker 3>a gas talking to you. But unfortunately we're at the

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 3>end of this interview. No, but okay, well you stick

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 3>around for our cruising confession of course.

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh I love being nosy.

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Now we've heard some of J's locker room cruise confessions,

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.760
<v Speaker 2>but it's time to hear some of yours.

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 6>So I was now there just for a couple of

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 6>days for work and the guy hit me up on

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:11.879
<v Speaker 6>Sniffy's and told me to meet him at the gym,

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 6>and I was like, okay, but he told me to

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 6>meet him at the gym like eleven o'clock and I

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 6>was like, at the gym closed.

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 3>He was like, I work here.

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 1>WHOA?

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:23.280
<v Speaker 6>So I ended up me and him at the boutique

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 6>gym and on every fucking machine.

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 3>I fucked him in the pool. I fucked him in Asana.

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 6>Had a big old butt, really nice arms.

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Two.

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Faith was like, what the fuck are we doing in

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 3>this gym?

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 6>And uh we tuck for like an hour in there,

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:43.399
<v Speaker 6>and then the cleaning baby was.

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.879
<v Speaker 3>Like what are y'all doing? So we had to get

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 3>out of there. But that was lit some.

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<v Speaker 1>People, they just caught a brad. I know I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>saying something.

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<v Speaker 2>Big old, but and I faced the car that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>decline that guess what a jo exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy for this person. This is how you use

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<v Speaker 3>your privilege and your power and your gym access. Also

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<v Speaker 3>shout at that clean lady. She didn't say get out

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<v Speaker 3>of here, she said what you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Exact hour after the fat that clean lady was watching

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit because she said I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>cleaning lady attimp for cleaning up after them. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I want to yell the equipment when they were done

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<v Speaker 2>with it, I think so like the Patreots don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt the employees are good.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you? Yeah, I'll be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>When the story started, I was like, Jay, what did

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<v Speaker 1>you do? And then I was like, Chris, what did

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<v Speaker 1>you do?

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<v Speaker 3>I work here. That is funny whenever someone who is

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<v Speaker 3>like trying to hook up is like they're still very

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<v Speaker 3>you still have the presence of mind to be like

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<v Speaker 3>it's closed work.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, all right, we're gonna get the endless

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<v Speaker 2>guest You said you think the gym, Yeah, there's one

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<v Speaker 2>that's like what And they have treadmills of face right

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<v Speaker 2>out onto the main street.

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>And I am constantly getting hit up to go there,

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<v Speaker 2>and people are free with their guest passes.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, I'm trying to suck dick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yours is nice?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I give you a guest pass? Come meet me

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<v Speaker 2>in the steam room. I'm like, this is beautiful, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>lovely welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>The marketing campaign is I mean, I was gonna say

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<v Speaker 4>if I was a membership advisor, I would give all

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<v Speaker 4>my guest passes to the biggest horse. Yeah, so get

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<v Speaker 4>them into the gym and then they're like, I want

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<v Speaker 4>this experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, you need to run a gym because that is genius.

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<v Speaker 3>That's smart, that's very smart. And you have go go

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<v Speaker 3>boys at the gym by and go.

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<v Speaker 1>Go girl Mande Laport at the opening, go go boys

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<v Speaker 1>on the hawks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you for that Hallmark Channel movie of a story.

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<v Speaker 1>That was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to hear your own cruising confessions on

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<v Speaker 2>an upcoming episode of this podcast, you can call our

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<v Speaker 2>Cruising Confessions hotline at three zero two two and nine

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<v Speaker 2>three eight nine eight. That is three zero two two

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<v Speaker 2>and nine three eight nine and please leave, leave us

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<v Speaker 2>more stories like that jam story.

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<v Speaker 1>We need a nice little.

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<v Speaker 2>Breather, a nice little uplifting story, big old but.

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<v Speaker 1>Face you know, actually play it again? Was that tall

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<v Speaker 1>the parents? All right? Well, thank you again j for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Remind folks where they can see you and find you online.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you can watch my special in Hulu. It's called

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<v Speaker 3>Yes ma'am. You can find me on all socials just

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<v Speaker 3>at Jay Jorden, j Y J. U R D E N.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can see me in your town. I'm on

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<v Speaker 3>tour currently through the end of the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Come see me. Open up the app.

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<v Speaker 3>If someone's talking about going to Jay Jordan show, go

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<v Speaker 3>to the show, hook up afterwards, you know what, hook

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<v Speaker 3>up during the show. I don't don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>The ticket right by the tickets, boy, the ticket can

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>That was wild.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean this is a great episode, right, It

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<v Speaker 4>was like really amazing to have Jay on to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about literally everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like we were. We were in a new

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:07.480
<v Speaker 2>hour long special for sure. Jay, We'll go like around

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<v Speaker 2>the entire galaxy and then bring back going back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how did we end up back? We're re started?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't Yeah, that's a comedy, baby, that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>We get them on a theater, degree and a microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>They know how to structure a story.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>So as we wrap up another season, we did want

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<v Speaker 2>to thank you all for tuning in, for your supportive comments,

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<v Speaker 2>for your very honest feedback, and for your gnarliest sex stories.

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<v Speaker 4>And let's be real, it's kind of scary out there

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<v Speaker 4>right now. We're seeing queer people are being targeted at

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<v Speaker 4>their jobs online and yes, even a place instead of

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<v Speaker 4>a known as cruising spots for decades, but this isn't new.

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<v Speaker 2>For a long time, our community has faced police raids

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<v Speaker 2>on queer venues, targeted arrests for the way we dress,

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:48.799
<v Speaker 2>and vaguely worded laws used to entrap queer men using

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<v Speaker 2>a bathroom or trans women simply walking down the street.

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<v Speaker 4>So we need to be cautious and rely on each

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<v Speaker 4>other to figure out what's safe and what it's not

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<v Speaker 4>right now. But what we can't do is go back

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<v Speaker 4>into hiding out of fear or shame.

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<v Speaker 2>We will do our best on the pod to keep

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<v Speaker 2>some things that should just be among us among us,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have taken steps to do that this season.

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<v Speaker 2>But we won't be getting any quietor when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to talking to you frankly, honestly and very proudly about.

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<v Speaker 4>Sex, bigots will always find a way to demonize it

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<v Speaker 4>in chrap Us whether we're loud or quiet, so we

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<v Speaker 4>might as well be mouthy little sluts.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go absolutely and with that there's a wrap on

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<v Speaker 1>season three. Congrats.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you liked what you heard, please share this

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<v Speaker 2>about this because we would love to come back for

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<v Speaker 2>a season fourth on all.

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<v Speaker 1>The places where you get your podcast, those things help

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<v Speaker 1>us a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, don't just leave your thoughts in the comments. Go

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<v Speaker 2>go and use the thing that you used to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to the podcast and go, Yeah, we would love to

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<v Speaker 2>see you back for season four. Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is

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<v Speaker 2>directed by Adam Barron, produced by Amanda Kuper and Cameron Femino,

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