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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff Mom Never Told You From House top

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Speaker 1: works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Caroline and I'm Kristin. And on our last episode we

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Speaker 1: talked all about the history of fashion modeling and where

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Speaker 1: those ladies came from and gents to be honest. Um,

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Speaker 1: but today we returning our focus to fashion itself specifically,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that today we are having sort of

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Speaker 1: the same conversation about fashion in terms of feminism that

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Speaker 1: we've had for a long long time. Yeah, So this

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Speaker 1: has been a really interesting thing to look at in

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Speaker 1: terms of this intersection between fashion and feminism, because those

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Speaker 1: two things might seem completely at odds. Feminism doesn't care

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Speaker 1: about about fancy clothes and handbags and high heels, but

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Speaker 1: in fact, it has always cared about clothes so much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we we've talked before in the podcast about

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Speaker 1: Amelia Bloomer and dress reform and early early feminists who

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Speaker 1: are like, hey, you know what's awful wearing corsets and

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Speaker 1: like ten pounds of clothing that is literally dangerous if

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Speaker 1: we ever get wet. We should change how we dress.

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Speaker 1: The same thing happened with Second Way feminism as well, right,

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Speaker 1: Linda Scott writes about this in her recent book Fresh Lipstick, Redressing,

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Speaker 1: Fashion and Feminism. She says American feminism takes a dim

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Speaker 1: view of beauty. Across the spectrum of academic and popular literature,

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Speaker 1: feminist writers have consistently argued that a woman's attempt to

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Speaker 1: cultivate her appearance makes her a dupe, a fashion, the

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Speaker 1: plaything of men, and thus a collaborator in her own oppression.

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Speaker 1: And if you can't tell Scott disagrees with this assessment.

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Speaker 1: She herself talks about how when back in the seventies,