1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. It's a Tuesday, It's our one. Come on in, 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: stay a while. We'll check in with the always opinionated 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Nick Wright on what the Lakers did to Frank Vogel 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: and where they go from here. There's already talk that 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: maybe they go after Utah's head coach, Quinn Snyder. You 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: also have Phillies Doc Rivers in the mix there as well. 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: But Doc, if I'm Doc, I'm looking at I got 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: a good big man and Joel Enbad. I got James Harden. 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: You know, I got some tyres, Maxie, I got some 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: good players there. Do I want to go to a rebuild? 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: Or is it just getting back to Los Angeles for 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers? All right, we'll have a poll question, play 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: of the day, stat of the day, all of that forthcoming, 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: and your phone calls are welcome. Eight seven seven three 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: d P Show email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com, 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: Twitter handle at dp's show. We'll have that poll question. 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: Seaton will provide the honors there. The Lakers made it 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: official yesterday firing Frank Vogel, and it was no secret 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: that they underachieved the past two seasons. You lose in 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: the first round in twenty twenty one, failed to make 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: the play in tournament this year, and they do have talent, 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: it's just the pieces didn't fix fit. And you know, 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: it's like having a jigsaw puzzle and then you open 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: it up and then you start to put it together 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: and you go, wait, is this the wrong jigsaw puzzle? 27 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: Or maybe half of it's the jigsaw puzzle you thought 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: it was and the other half is him, and then 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: you start to point fingers. Well, Frank Vogel, you point 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: the finger at him because he's the one who got fired. 31 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: But they had more starting lineups than wins this year, 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: and Frank Vogel wasn't the one who said, let's bring 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: in Russell Westbrook. Russell Westbrook did talk about a disconnect 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: he had with Frank Vogel. He talked yesterday, I'm not 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: sure what his issue was with me, or I'm not 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: sure why, but I can't really give you ass of 37 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: why things we never really connected. Maybe you know, that's 38 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: something that he has to answer, but I never you 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: know from the get go, what was feeling like I 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: was haping to like trying to prove myself to him 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: and my capabilities and what I've been able to do 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: for this game. And it's unfortunate, but it's really not 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: cut out of my hands. Okay, Russell Westbrook doesn't have 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: a title. It's up to him to fit in with 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: Frank Vogel's team. Frank Vogel's got a championship, Russell Westbrook doesn't. Now. 46 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: Is he a Hall of Famer? Absolutely? But I always 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: find that interesting that you come to a new team 48 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: and then you expect the coach to maybe meet you halfway. 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: More than halfway. Russ has to meet him halfway as well, 50 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: and it felt like there was a disconnect from the beginning. 51 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: And that might be in part because Frank Vogel didn't 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: want Russell Westbrook because Frank once guys who are going 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: to play defense, and Russell Westbrook is not going to 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: play defense? Yes, but don't you want to if you 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: bring in a player, don't you want to play to 56 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: their strengths rather than force them into your box of 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: what they think they should be. I don't know what 58 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: Russell westbrook strings are anymore seton like That's part of 59 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: the problem is Russ thinks he's a player that he 60 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: used to be and he's his singular talent, and the 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: comparison you're always going to get is Alan Iverson. Alan Iverson, 62 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: they created a system for Alan Iverson, You're not creating 63 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: a system for Russell Westbrook. Certainly with the Lakers, yes, 64 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: because when you listen to Lebron James sound bite one 65 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: of them from yesterday, it seemed pretty clear that he 66 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: had an idea of the way Russ should play and 67 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: like his what he thought of Lebron says, well you 68 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: have Russell leading the break, I'm out on the wing. 69 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: Eighty is the lob threat. You know, it seemed pretty 70 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: clear that in Lebron James's mind he had a role 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: for Russell Westbrook. Well, Lebron certainly loves Russell Westbrook. He 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: had this to say yesterday. One thing about rust that 73 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: I love and we'll always love is, you know, just 74 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: his competitive spirit, what he brings to the game every 75 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: single night. And when you're in a profession where so 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: many injuries happen and so many things go on, and 77 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: to have a guy that's reliable and can put on 78 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: a uniform every single night, that's something I respect, you know, 79 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: out of everything, and you know, I'm not gonna see 80 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: here and make decisions for the front office and things 81 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: of that nature. But I love being a teamm or 82 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: Russ and you know that's just the way it is. 83 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: I can put on a uniform every night. It's what 84 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: I do when I wear the uniform. Man, I I 85 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: love having Russ out here every night, ball going off 86 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: his legs, you know, turnovers, miss shots yet, but he's 87 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: out here every night. You know. See, I'm surprised it's 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: not being twisted more into a shot at Anthony Davis 89 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: like a dude who's not out there every night, because 90 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: it's so fragile. That's kind of what Lebron is saying. 91 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: I respect the guy who could be out here playing 92 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 1: every night. Well it doesn't get hurt, but doesn't sound 93 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: like Russell Westbrook's going anywhere if Lebron has his say so, 94 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: or at least he's saying this publicly. But he may 95 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: love Russ, and Russ does play hard. I've said this 96 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: many times on the show. I do love the fact 97 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: that he does care. Just don't think he plays well. 98 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 1: And there's a reason why you've been on four teams 99 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: in the last four years. It's you can't build around 100 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: him when he averaged a triple double. It was his team. 101 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: But that's a long time ago, and there was a 102 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: fascination with Russ, with what he was doing. And you know, 103 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: you win the MVP, he's going to be a first 104 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer. But that's why I got kicked 105 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: to the curb in these other places, Houston, Washington, you know, 106 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: with the Lakers, he's just not that same player, and 107 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: he never developed a jump shot, and it feels like 108 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: he can be careless. He does. He does try to 109 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: do too much sometimes and he's not one of those 110 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: guys that play. Get him in a half court offense 111 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: and he's going to pick you apart. I mean, he's 112 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: not Chris Paul. And even in transition, he just gets 113 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: loose with things. He gets kind of in his mind. 114 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: His mind is going so fast and trying to process 115 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: and then his body can't keep up with it, or 116 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: vice versa. But now the Lakers looking for a placement, 117 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: they have no cap space, an aging roster, an impatient 118 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: front office. Other than that should be great, But I 119 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: guess Lebron saying publicly he loves Russ and you're gonna 120 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: bring him back, and maybe if you bring in another 121 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: head coach, like, I don't know if you can change him. 122 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: You know, Alan Iverson still wanted to be Allen iverson 123 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: his entire career. It I can't change you at thirty four. 124 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: You know, Kevin Love changed when he was winning a championship. 125 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: You know, in Minnesota, he was a guy putting up 126 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: twenty and twenty some nights, thirty and thirty one night. 127 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: But he wasn't you know, they weren't winning and they 128 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: weren't doing anything. He knows that he's got to be 129 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: the third wheel with Lebron and Kyrie. When Chris Bosh 130 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: went to Miami, Bosh knew that I used to be 131 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: the man in Toronto. Now I have to I'm third 132 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: in line the pecking order with the throne. It's Broun 133 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: d Wade and then it's me. You know, does Russ 134 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: understand that? And what is that role that you go 135 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: You just plug him in there. It's not like he's 136 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: a sharp shooter or a shot blocker. He's got the 137 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: ball all the time and that's not always a good thing, yeah, Polly, 138 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, and Russell has never stopped shooting. Like he 139 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: doesn't shot as much because there's more option on the team. 140 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: I always wish he would play like Rayjon Rondo did 141 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: Rajan Rondo. Rondo knew he couldn't shoot, so he didn't 142 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: shoot a lot. He shoot economic. He would shot economically, 143 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: but he'd lead the team and assists, lead the team 144 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: and steals, rebound like crazy, be a defensive force. Rondo 145 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: won and was always a good player because he knew 146 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: he couldn't shoot and avoided it. Yeah, I sort of 147 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: felt like when I was well, Rajan was never at 148 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: the level that Westbrook was. Well, the Westbrook of mass numbers, 149 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: not a mass efficiency. Yeah, but Westbrook won an MVP. 150 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Rajon Rondo has never come close. No, but so to 151 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: have that I was the MVP. You know, Rondo was 152 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: just a you know, really good, complimentary player. He did 153 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: the right things, very high basketball IQ understood the game 154 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: and his role. But if you're the MVP and I 155 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: average a triple double, it's not like you can kind 156 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: of suppress your ego and go and now I'm just 157 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: going to be a defensive guy or I'm gonna rebound. 158 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: I would never let him shoot a jumper. I would 159 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: tell him every single time, just go to the hoop. 160 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: That's it. Just go to the hoop. But I would 161 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: also ask insist that he played defense, because you can't 162 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: be that good of an athlete and then you're not 163 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: a lockdown defender. And look, you know, nobody played defense 164 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: for this team. They were one of one of the 165 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: worst defensive teams. And they didn't even care. They weren't 166 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: even hiding the fact that they were terrible on defense. 167 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: But we'll talk to Nick write about what the Lakers 168 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: do from here. You know, does Quinn Snyder want to 169 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: leave Utah? Is Utah gonna maybe dismantle that team? Is 170 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: this the final run for them? Would Doc want to 171 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: go back to Los Angeles? Would he want to leave Philadelphia? 172 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: I also wonder does Philly want Doc Rivers back. I 173 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: guess that would be the bigger question there play in 174 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: games coming up tonight, Cabs in the Nets, that's at Brooklyn. 175 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: I would love for my Cavaliers to shock the world, 176 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: but without Jared Allen, they're not going to beat the 177 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Nets in Brooklyn. In my opinion, Jared Allen, the former Net, 178 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: was great for this team. They've been a really good story. 179 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: Love Darius Garland, but I just don't see that happening 180 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: with the Nets. The Clippers will be at Minnesota coming 181 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: up tonight. This might be the first time you watch 182 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: Minnesota with Anthony Edwards Carl Anthony Towns, and they are 183 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: very interesting team. Edwards is a dynamic player. There's a 184 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Yeah yeah, Mark over under five? How 185 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: many technical fouls tonight between the Clippers or maybe not 186 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: technical files but a little dust up between Patrick Beverley 187 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: and the Clippers. Okay, five technicals. I wanted to clean 188 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: that up like dustups, little little interactions. Well that's how 189 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley plays. Um, if I'm Minnesota, I guess that's 190 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: what I want. I want to have him stirred up 191 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: a little bit there, not too much, but just enough, 192 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: you know, because uh, Paul George said, Hey, this is 193 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: isn't about me against Patrick Beverley, but it might be 194 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: about him and Patrick Beverley at some point tonight. Yeah. 195 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: Play does that anybody comfortably know the play in game rules? 196 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: Like the Nets are playing the Calves. Who's out if 197 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: they lose tonight? The seven eighth? Is that a one 198 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: and done game or nine game? The seventh and eighth 199 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: seed have two chances to win a play in game 200 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: to advance to the playoffs. The ninth and tenth seeds 201 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: need to win two consecutive games to get in seven 202 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: eight game. The seventh seed will host the eighth seed 203 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: in each conference. The winner of the seven eight game 204 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: will earn the seventh seed in the playoffs. So wait, 205 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: the Nets, if they lose tonight to the Calves are 206 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: still in or or not out yet. Uh? Okay, the 207 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: Nets are what place right now? Seven seven? So the 208 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: Nets they have two chances? Two chances. Yeah, you asked 209 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: for it, and then I gave you the information and 210 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: you know less than you did before I asked. You 211 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: ask me. Okay. So the Pelicans Spurs is is that 212 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: that's a nine ten game. Let's say the Pelicans won, 213 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: They're not in yet. They have to win two games. 214 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: Then they have to play the loser of seven seven eight. Okay, 215 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: So Hornets and the Hawks coming up on Wednesday, Spurs 216 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: and the Pelicans that will follow that one as well. 217 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: These are playing games. You know who got lost in 218 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: the shuffle this year, and he had an unbelievable year. 219 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: Unbelievable year, guys, want to guess just it felt like 220 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: he got lost. He slipped off of mainstream radar and 221 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure why which conference. Oh stop, Damian Lillar, 222 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: know what's Trey Young? Damian Lillar didn't play. Trey Young 223 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: led the league in scoring an assist and it doesn't 224 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, that's only happened one other time with Nate 225 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: Archibald back in the early seventies. Trey Young had a 226 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: great year, but it felt it feels like the other 227 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: players are moving higher than him, like his elevator stopped, 228 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: and you know, Lucas is going higher in beads, going higher. 229 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you can run down the list of people, 230 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: and it felt like Trey Young. He kind of peaked 231 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: last year in the playoffs against the Knicks, but after 232 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: that it felt like, you know, and also, this is 233 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: a guy and I don't know the exact stat here, 234 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: how many guys have led the nation in scoring an 235 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: assist in college and led the NBA in scoring an assist. 236 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: Now he had the most points, and so it's tricky 237 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: because Nate Archibald had the highest scoring average and the 238 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: highest assist total when he did it back in the 239 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: early seventies. Trey Young had the most points. He didn't 240 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: have the highest average, but he also led an assist 241 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: as well, but it felt like, I don't know, we 242 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: forgot about Trey Young. Maybe we get reintroduced to Trey 243 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: Young here in the playoffs. Yes, that would be the 244 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: Jamarant effect. Yeah, it could be Jamrant filled that took 245 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: that mantle or filled that hole, whatever you want to 246 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: call it. Yeah, he replaced Trey Young this year. Yes, 247 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: I agree, that's a good call, yes, Marv. Or maybe 248 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: he needs to go back to New York and abused 249 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: the Knicks in the playoffs. 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He went 304 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: nine for thirteen in the Guardians series against Kansas City. 305 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: He reached basse in fifteen of the nineteen plate appearances, 306 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: two walks, a triple, and he's the first player in 307 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: baseball history to reach base at least three times in 308 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: each of his first four games. Now, I remember when 309 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: it used to be the old days, where you try 310 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: to get on base whatever way you could get on base, 311 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: maybe a base hit, something as foreign as that. Don't 312 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: have many of those nowadays. And I was wondering how 313 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: many players hit over three twenty last year, because normally 314 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: you would say you're going to compete for a batting title, 315 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: you'd probably be batting over three twenty. How many players 316 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: hit better than three twenty last year? Poem two Trade 317 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: Turner hit three twenty eight, Frank Twindell hit three twenty six. Yeah, 318 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: twenty years ago there was ten players who hit over 319 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: three twenty in a season. Yeah, Well, then you had 320 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: power hitters who were batting over three twenty. Now it's rare, 321 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: and you used to value that, or at least you know, 322 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: before analytics, you'd say, well, Tony gwyn I don't know 323 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: how valuable Tony Gwynn would be in today's game because 324 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: he didn't hit a lot of home runs. It doesn't 325 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: mean he couldn't. But Tony was known for being a 326 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: really good fielder. He once led the league in stolen bases, 327 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of times over fifty stolen bases. We 328 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: don't value that anymore, and he's gonna bat three fifty. 329 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: But you know, the analytics will show that Adam Dunne 330 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: might be as valuable because he walked, strike out and 331 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: hit home runs and had a pretty good on base percentage. Yeah, 332 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: he batted probably two thirty. Tony Gwynn would bat three 333 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: thirty for his career. But you know, trying to figure 334 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: out what is valuable nowadays. That's why when I see 335 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: somebody like man, he's batting seven to fifty right now, Okay, 336 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: how valuable are you? I always thought you got on base? 337 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: What's better a strikeout or a base hit? And then 338 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: you hear that, you know, the analytics people, and they'll go, no, 339 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: you gotta you know, it's all about hitting home runs here. 340 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: And I thought, well, Brett Gardner played for the Yankees, 341 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: and when he did, he was guy who used his 342 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: speed and contact hitter, and then all of a sudden 343 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: he decided he was going to swing for home runs 344 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: as well. And I don't know what he batted, like 345 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: two thirty one. I just I don't know. I'm just 346 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: fascinated by that that you know, these are the analytics, 347 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: and this is It's like a team that is not 348 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: shooting and shouldn't shoot threes, but you're supposed to shoot 349 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: threes instead of going for two because that's what the 350 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: analytics say. Yeah, Paul, do you think that most Major 351 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: League Baseball players choose this direction strikeout or home run 352 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: because they think home runs gets you paid? Or I 353 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 1: can't like the analytics? Yeah, but why doesn't someone Why 354 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: aren't there a couple contact hitters. I know tony wins 355 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: don't happen every day, but the guys that hit three 356 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: thirty and hit ten home runs? But like each yer row, 357 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: how valuable would each yarrow be? Great fielder could run 358 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: and would bat you know three sixty? Yeah, seed, But 359 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: the number that twenty years ago there were ten players 360 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: that hit over three twenty doesn't sound very impressive to 361 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: me either, well, but it's five times as many as 362 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: last season. It is, but it's still only like one 363 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: percent of the total league. Yeah. Said to me that 364 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: if it was two hundred players out of the seven 365 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty, I would be like, damn, the game 366 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: has really changed. But going from ten players to two 367 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: over the course of twenty years is like, Okay, there's 368 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,239 Speaker 1: no shame in striking out anymore. That's that's really what 369 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: it comes down to. It used to be when you 370 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: struck out, like you had your head down, you're walking back, 371 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: he wanted to make contact. You didn't want somebody to 372 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: strike out. Now you don't care. It's it's And I 373 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: go back to a former teammate of Alex Rodriguez with 374 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: the Yankee said, a rod when he would strike out, 375 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: would come back and he wanted to look at the 376 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: video to see how good he looked striking out. That hey, 377 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: I struck out, But did I look good striking out? 378 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: I didn't look like it was fooled, did I? And 379 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: the teammate would say, no, no, don't look like you 380 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: were right on it. And that was almost like okay, yeah, Pauly. 381 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: Since Tony Gwinn retired now that's twenty one years ago. 382 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: There's only been really a handful of guys who've hidden 383 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: hit over three twenty three, twenty five and had very 384 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: low strikeouts, but none of them are household names. They're 385 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: guys like Wan Pierre or Jason Kendall, our buddy Sean Casey, 386 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: Mark Loretta. They're all guys who hit three, twenty five, 387 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: three thirty get like thirteen fourteen home runs, so they're 388 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: never considered power hitters. You could make an All Star 389 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: Game or two like that, but you can't make a 390 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame like that, and you can't get big 391 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: time paid like that appears. Yeah, I'm with you. I 392 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: want more Tony Gwinns, but well, therefore you get more action. 393 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: You want the game to have movement, and the commissioner 394 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: has been trying to get this. He said that he's 395 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: trying to get more action in the game. And if 396 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: you go back and watch one of those you know, 397 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: ESPN Classics, you'll see movement, Like there's so much more 398 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: going on in the game, and I think that helps 399 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: just the attention span that we have or we don't have. 400 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: When you're watching the game, there is something going on, 401 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: like when the guy gets on first base, you think 402 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: he might steal. Now the guy gets on first base, 403 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, just here and till Jimmy Lipper hits 404 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: a bomb here and then I'll walk around the bases. 405 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: Yes more, You're right, because how often when you watch 406 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: a baseball game do you see somebody do like a 407 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: pickoff move like Andy Petty used to do that, you know, 408 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Great pickoff. Yeah, but now they just 409 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: focus on the batter because they're not going anywhere. Yeah, 410 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: there's no reason to steal bases. A Rod said to me, 411 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: I said, why don't you steal basses anymore? And he goes, 412 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: if they start paying me to steal basses, I will 413 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: nobody cares about stealing bases. I still think one of 414 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: these days, somebody's gonna try to replicate what Whitey Herzog 415 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: had with the Saint Louis Cardinals, and that is just speed. 416 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: Your ballpark, you know, have a larger ballpark, and you 417 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: have Willie McGee, Vince Coleman. You just had guys Tommy Herr. 418 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: You got guys who could run and that, you know, 419 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: having pressure that you put on the team. There's nobody 420 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: who put more pressure on a team than Ricky Henderson. 421 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: And it was fascinating because he could walk, get on first, 422 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna steal, and then he would go to third 423 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: and then he would score on a you know, infield 424 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: grounder or sack fly. But he would single handedly manufacture 425 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: a run and he would put everybody on alert because 426 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: when he got on there, then the pitcher worried about 427 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: him and there was just movement there. But it's just 428 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: not valued anymore. Yeah, seed, do you think faster athletes 429 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: are playing other sports now? Well, there's still speed in 430 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: the game. I just think you don't really realize how 431 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: fast somebody is as much because it used to be 432 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: when you go, man, that guy he's got fifty you 433 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: know bags that he stole. Yeah, sec is that the 434 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: NFL has probably faster than it's ever been, right if 435 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: you look at the numbers that guys are putting up 436 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: there are just like off the charts, right. But baseball, 437 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: that element of the game has completely gone away. I 438 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: just don't know if you had somebody who was blazing 439 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: fast like a Tyreek Hill or you know, Jaalen Wattle 440 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: or somebody, you would have them still bases still wouldn't you. 441 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: But I don't know if there's you know, somebody's really 442 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: fast and they say I don't want to play baseball 443 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 1: because I can't utilize my speed, or they wouldn't embrace 444 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: my speed. Maybe I don't know. I've never I've never 445 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: thought of that. But you're still utilizing your speed whenever 446 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: you swing the bat. It's just you don't utilize your 447 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: speed when you get on the basis that they give 448 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: you the green light to steal. And I love that 449 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: mind game. I love that the pitcher, the catcher and 450 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: the guy on first base and everything that was going 451 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: on because there was the threat of that guy's going 452 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: to steal. You know. I go back to when Lou Brock, 453 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: you know, broke the old time record. I mean it 454 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: was it was a big deal. When when Ricky set 455 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: the old time record stolen basis, it was a big deal. 456 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: But speed was embrace back then. Now it's not, you know, 457 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: it's it's all about your launch angle. And this is 458 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: the same with the pitchers. I mean, it's not about 459 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: pitching being crafty. It's about I'm gonna throw as hard 460 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: as I can for as long as I can, and 461 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: then get Tommy John surgery and then I'll be bad tradition, Yeah, 462 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: unlike any other Yeah. Well, I was wondering if the 463 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: general managers ever thought, like, if you're the Pittsburgh Pirates 464 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: general manager, you know you can't spend one hundred million, 465 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: that's never gonna happen. I'm gonna go the opposite and 466 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: get a bunch of hitters, you know, numbers hitters, guys 467 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: who could run and play that kind of style, knowing 468 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: I'll never have to pay those guys because there's no 469 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: market for them. When if you're hitting three thirty with 470 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: twelve home runs for the Pittsburgh Pirates and fifty soul basis, 471 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: nobody else in baseball wants you because nobody plays that way, 472 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: so you would stay a Pirate. They would pay you. Like, 473 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: but if you change the financial system based off the 474 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: changing the players you've bet on, but you also have 475 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: to find those players because today's player is emulating what's 476 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: going on in the major leagues. I throw really hard 477 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: and I swing really hard. It's not you know, just 478 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: put your battle on the ball. And the same thing 479 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: with looking at shooters. Now, everybody wants to be a 480 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: three point shooter, and not everybody should be, but but 481 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: you're you're trying to find guys who can also hit 482 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: the mid range jumper. And that's another thing that I 483 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: wonder if you can see a team that is just 484 00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: more inside presence taking advantage of the defensive mismatch joe 485 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: that you have, like Shack. If Shaq played, is Shack 486 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: gonna be averaging thirty a game? Would he average more? 487 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna stop him down low? Like Kareem if he 488 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: played now, would Kareem be shooting threes? I can't imagine. 489 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he had the you know, the stroke to 490 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: be able to do it. But you know, that's what 491 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: I always wonder about. Will Chamberlain couldn't shoot, but he 492 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: would just be a dominating presence down low. So I'm 493 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm always curious with the evolution of things. And it's 494 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: almost like clothes. You know, you see something, you go, oh, 495 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: that's back in style, Like does the stolen base come 496 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: back in style? These guys can't bunt. They don't know 497 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: how to bunt. They've never been asked to bunt. I 498 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: find that amazing. It's one of the fundamental things you 499 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: learn when you play baseball. Yeah, seton, But again, looking 500 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: at how hard people throw. Now I'm not scoring around, 501 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. Well, no, well hopefully they throw 502 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: a strike. Yeah. It's like somebody used to throw ninety 503 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: two and you were like, dang, that's some serious heat, 504 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: and now it's like it's an off speed pitch. I 505 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: was looking back at Dion Sanders career, and I don't 506 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: know if he gets enough credit for his baseball career 507 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: because it was part time. But when he was twenty 508 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: six years old, Dion he hit two eighty three in 509 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: a season with forty stolen bases and he played half 510 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: the time. He had three hundred at bats. If you 511 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: pro rate that to a full season, you know, two 512 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: eighty three with sixty stolen bases, that's a nice baseball player. Yeah. 513 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: I just don't think that you're having players who were 514 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: being kind of positioned that way that this is what 515 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: we want. It's everybody is throwing, and I don't think 516 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: you can get a scout's attention unless you're throwing ninety five. Yeah. 517 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: Somebody just back to that point about faster athletes choosing 518 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: other sports. Somebody on Twitter just pointing out Kyler Murray 519 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: choosing the NFL over baseball. He's pretty quick. Yeah, I 520 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe there's a trend there. Let's take a break. 521 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: I want to talk to Nick Wright about what the 522 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: Lakers do now and how would he rate Lebron's season? 523 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: Was this a good season for Lebron even though they 524 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs. We'll get to phone calls coming up. 525 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: We'll settle on our poll question as well. Back after 526 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: this Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan 527 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 528 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific 529 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and you can find us on 530 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on 531 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: the Peacock app. I'm George Reister, host of the Reister 532 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: or Wrong Hidcast. This is the intersection where sports, business, society, 533 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: and pop culture meet the truth. Absolute fire home Monday's, 534 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: Wednesdays and Fridays facts only. Make sure you check your 535 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: feelings at the door, because nobs is allowed. We keep 536 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,959 Speaker 1: at one hundred. This is where real conversations happen. Listen 537 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: to the Rights or Wrong pod app on the iHeartRadio, 538 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: Apple Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Our 539 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: stats of the day brought you by Panini America the 540 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. I mentioned 541 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: that to Stephen Quan he's a rookie with the Guardians. 542 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: Still strange to say that he has reached base in 543 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: fifteen of nineteen plate appearances. He went nine for thirteen 544 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: in the series against the Kansas City Royals. I don't 545 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: know how much they value a guy who gets on base, 546 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: gets a couple of base hits. Here, it's always like 547 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: how many, how many home runs you got here? Let's 548 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: bringing Nick Wright. First things first, co host, are you 549 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: baseball fan? Not so much, but I'm a fan of 550 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: hearing you rail about how back in my day you 551 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: valued some ducks on the pond. It wasn't all about 552 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: the long ball. Back when men were men in the 553 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: game was played the right way. I could listen to 554 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: that for a while, But that doesn't mean I'm wrong 555 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: in what I said. No, you're right. I mean, no, 556 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: you're listen. Here's a take. Baseball has gotten too smart 557 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: for its own good. And every once in a while 558 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about analytics. Yeah I am, because that's to me. 559 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: When you say you don't know how much they value 560 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: base runners, it's like, every once in a while, sports 561 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: leagues need to have a moment of humility and recognize 562 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: there is nothing inherently more valuable from the world's best 563 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: baseball or basketball player compared to the world's best high 564 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: ali in frisbee golfer. The reason they make the month 565 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: the difference in money is because people enjoy watching them, 566 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: and every once in a while, the pursuit of winning 567 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: undercuts the watchability. I think that's happened with baseball, and 568 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: I think you have to take it very, very seriously, 569 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: because I see it's starting to happen in basketball with 570 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: you know kind of how it's all three pointer, you know, 571 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: centric about who wins loses. Is what made basketball as 572 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: popular as it was was guys are flying through the air, 573 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: superhuman feats. And because the smart numbers in baseball and 574 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: basketball have driven you away from some of the most 575 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: exciting parts of the game, that's a risky game to 576 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: be played in the entertainment business. And if you need 577 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: to tweak rules accordingly, you should. Well. Basketball used to 578 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: be about movement, and there's less movement in basketball now. 579 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: It is everybody is on the perimeter and waiting for 580 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: their turn to take a shot. You still have unbelievable players, 581 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: and then in college college that there were some bad 582 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: basketball played in March madness because of the proliferation of 583 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: the three point sean, everybody thinks they can shoot it, 584 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: and even though it's closer, there's a lot of guys 585 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: who should not be taken threes. Well. Listen, college basketball, 586 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: in part because of the racial dynamics of it, and 587 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: also in part because of just people's own kind of 588 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: nostalgia to it. People have convinced themselves people that, oh 589 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: my god, it's great deepens in college basketball. No, it's not. 590 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: It's terrible offense. It's guys that can't shoot. It's guys 591 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: with open jumpers and missing it. And I mean, I 592 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: feel like, Dan, you could, you could to this day 593 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: provide eight minutes off the bench just with some quality 594 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: jump shooting in college basketball. So yeah, you know, there's 595 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the kind I joke 596 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: with you about the back in my day stuff, but 597 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: a lot of it's true, Like there are certain things 598 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: that need to be refined a bit more similarly to 599 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: how they once were done. That part's fair. I wanted 600 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: to have you on about the Lakers situation of what 601 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: they do moving forward here, A lot of people came 602 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: out and said, you know, they were unfair to Frank Vogel. 603 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what role he played in this. If 604 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: you want to start there, and then we could look 605 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: at what kind of coach can they get should they 606 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: get for next year? Well let's start with Vogel. Let's 607 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: just say dan out of seemingly nowhere, this show had 608 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: its work first year in the history of the show. 609 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: It was a failure on all accounts, at all levels. 610 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: You think Paully gets fired. Maybe you think Paully gets fired, 611 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: and maybe he's only been there for three years. Probably 612 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: is it all Paully's fault. No, But when you have 613 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: the worst in a seventy year history, a lot of 614 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: people should be fired. The only real issue I have 615 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: with Vogel getting fired is it looks like Polink is 616 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 1: gonna escape any accountability. And I think Polinka is far 617 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: more accountable than Vogel is. But the Lakers blew the 618 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: second most double digit leads of any team in basketball 619 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: this year. That's gotta be a little bit of coaching, right. 620 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: The fact that at this very moment, the player with 621 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: the eighth most starts for the Lakers this year was 622 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan. DeAndre Jordan, Like, that's an active coaching choice 623 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: and it was the wrong one, and maybe no one 624 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: could have reached Russ, but it is the coach's job 625 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: to try to So I don't feel badly for Frank Vogel. 626 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: I also don't think firing Frank Vogel solves it. But 627 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: I also think Dan, when we see Coach of the 628 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: Year Ballance Taylor Jenkins is gonna win. But you know 629 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: who also is going to get a lot of votes, Tyler, 630 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: Monty Williams, Jason Kidd. What are those three names having common? 631 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: They all wanted to coach the Lakers, and so that 632 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: also doesn't help Frank Vogel. I don't think you know 633 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook said, Look, we never connected him in Vogel, 634 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: and it is incumbent upon the coach. Even though you 635 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: might not want that player, you still need that player 636 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: to help you. And I wonder if Vogel used Russell 637 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: Westbrook the correct way or to maximize Russell Westbrook. Dan, 638 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: I listen, Russell one of my favorite players ever to watch. 639 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: I used to say all the time how I found 640 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: it borderline inspiring, how hard he went every game. I 641 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: think that's a huge part of sports. And I thought 642 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: he was a guy if you have kids growing up playing, 643 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: it's like, hey watch this guy. You can't tell what 644 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: quarter it is, what game it is. He's given us 645 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: all out. But Russell Westbrook to me, is in denial, 646 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: and his press conference yesterday showed it. And I don't 647 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: think there is a proper way to use it. So 648 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to use a quick story and an analogy 649 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: and follow me on it. You've heard the old anecdote 650 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: about your parent finds their kids smoking, so like you're 651 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: gonna smoke this pack of cigarettes and you're never gonna 652 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 1: want to smoke again. And sometimes that works, and sometimes 653 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: the kid gets addicted. Right, So I had something similar 654 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: happened to me when I was young, playing my dad 655 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: in pool. I maybe have told the story. I'm not sure. 656 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: Playing him in nine ball, a couple dollars on the five, 657 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: five dollars on the nine, and I am crushing him, 658 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: like my dad stinks at pool. So he's like, oh, 659 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: you gotta let me into get my money back, Like, okay, 660 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: raise the stakes whatever, you're awful of this. He won 661 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: one hundred and eleven dollars from me Dan I was 662 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: twelve years old. He made me pay it back over 663 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: the course of eighteen months, and he thought, here's the 664 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: reason I'm telling my story. He thought the lesson I 665 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: was learning was don't gamble. The lesson I took from 666 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 1: it was is my god, if you're good at gambling, 667 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: you could make a lot of money, and such is 668 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: my So so here's the why I tell that story. 669 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: I think the twenty seventeen season for Russell Westbrook was 670 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: that pack of cigarettes moment, that pool game, and he 671 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: took the wrong lesson twenty seventeen scoring title, MVP triple 672 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 1: double in the playoffs, had a fifty point triple double 673 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: that they lost games two, three, four, five of the 674 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: playoffs they lost three or four. He averaged forty one, 675 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: twelve and twelve. That was a fork in the road moment, 676 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: first year without dream where he could have learned, Wow, 677 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: I led the league of story and I average a 678 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: triple double. I averaged forty a game in the postseason 679 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: and we stunk. I need to adjust. The lesson he 680 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: took from it was this is fun and awesome, and 681 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: I guess my teammates got to figure out how to 682 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: pick up the slack and he's now has a half 683 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: decade of these great numbers prior to this year, no 684 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: success and won't learn from it. So I you know, 685 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 1: my buddy Brussardo, I host the show with Dan. He's 686 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: been bringing up Verson and if you Iverson in two 687 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,479 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, Dan was twenty six points a game, 688 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: All Star, led the league in minutes, played all eighty 689 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: two games. That was two thousand and eight. Iverson in 690 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten was in Turkey. It can go 691 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: quick man, and I worry about that for us, and 692 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: I can't change him at thirty four. No, you know, 693 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: he's not somebody who can adapt like Kevin Love did 694 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: with the Cavaliers, Chris Bosh did with the Miami Heat, 695 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: his like Mellow did. How about Mellow with the Blazers 696 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: after laughing about coming off the bench was valuable for 697 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: them and he didn't even really have to adapt his 698 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: game something Mellow's like, I'm going to be a lockdown defender. 699 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: Mellow's game was the same, but he accepted a different role. 700 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: Not only Russ is willing to do that. It's really 701 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: worrying for him and andre Igudala. He was not at 702 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: the level at Russ. But he understood his role and 703 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: really embraced that. I mean he went from being a 704 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: score to a defensive minded player, defensive stopper there. I 705 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: just think, with all that athleticism, I should get more 706 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: out of Russ. It's just I think because he has 707 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: all that athleticism, I get less because he still tries 708 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: to do more. I would never let him take a jumper. 709 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: I would say, take it to the hoop and play 710 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: great defense. Use that athleticism, go to the boards, do 711 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: the smaller things, not taking fifteen eighteen foot jumpers and listen, 712 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: I thought, and I think that's what Lebron thought. I 713 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: think Lebron thought, I'll be able to get my arms 714 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: around him and we'll get the good of Russ, which 715 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: is the fearlessness, the availability, which you should get credit 716 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: for the one Laker that was available all year, and 717 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: not get the bad part. But it was almost nothing 718 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: but the bad part this year. Could you see Quinn 719 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: Snyder doc Rivers entertaining the idea of coaching the Lakers. 720 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: So here's the thing on that the only way it happens. 721 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: And I think Wilds, who I know is your favorite 722 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: member of the television show. I think Wild's made this point. 723 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: The only way that had happens is if those guys 724 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: fail this year, right, Like, the only way that Doc 725 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: Rivers is available is if the Sixers get knocked out 726 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: early round one or round two. And the only way 727 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: Quinn Sire's available is if the same thing happens to 728 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: the Jazz. So do you want, like, if those guys 729 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: got fired, would they entertain the possibility? Yeah? I think 730 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: they would, But would that make sense for the Lakers? 731 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm not certain. I like the idea of Juwan Howard personally. 732 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: I like what he's done at Michigan. I don't mind 733 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: occasionally putting your hands on somebody. I think sometimes you 734 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: know you need that. So yeah, I like I like 735 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: the idea of Juwan Ben Simmons making his debut, maybe 736 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: in the play Insane, Like, you don't think this is 737 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: going to happen, right, I hope it doesn't happen. Like 738 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: he's been through a lot and now I'm going to 739 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: just throw him in there and yeah, have him introduced 740 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: himself to his teammates on a fast break. I just 741 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: it just feels like they could use him, But it 742 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: feels like it's a little. It's I have trepidation. It's 743 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: pie in the sky. It's nonsense. The people are talking 744 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: about him returning to the Nets. He's never got me. 745 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: He's arriving with the Nets. He's never played a game 746 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,760 Speaker 1: with them like that. He first, and he hasn't played 747 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: a game since the playoffs last year, which was his 748 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: lowest professional moment. I think it's nuts. I think that 749 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: anything involving Ben Simmons has to be next year. Now. 750 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: Of course they need him. Can I tell you a 751 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: Net scenario, Dan, and this would be a great time, 752 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: a great opportunity for you to pay back that you know, 753 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: night out on the town. You owe me. If the 754 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: Nets lose tonight and the Hawks win tomorrow, we get 755 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: a chance for Trey Young, who is so deep in 756 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: New York sports fans head that they're channing f Trey 757 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: Young at Yankee Games, gets a chance to after eliminating 758 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: the Knicks last year, eliminate the Nets in Barclays on 759 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: Thursday night. So I think the Nets will win tonight, 760 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: but God Hawks Nets, which, by the way, this is 761 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: where you come in, you know, anywhere in the first 762 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: five rows is fine. I can meet you there, uh 763 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: seeing that in person would be epic theater. I know 764 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: the league wants the Nets in the playoffs, but Trey 765 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: young sending both Nick's or both New York teams home 766 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 1: within twelve months of each other would be unbelievable. I'm 767 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm more courtside or bust when it comes to Yeah, 768 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: well then buy it. What do you mean they're available? 769 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: Guess what I know? I know. Hey, great to talk 770 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: to you as always. Have fun tonight at the game. 771 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: Oh a little quick hook after I try to get 772 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: your bat. Do you understand how radio works go out? Oh? Yeah, sure? 773 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: Can you hear the music? Wait? Do you hear the music? 774 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: That means to update that they did the same music 775 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: for thirty years? Buddy, Thanks Nick, let's see it. That's 776 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: Nick right. That's one hour in the books and two 777 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: more to go in this popular show. One more item 778 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: as we close that our or one. We all have 779 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: different ideas about success. 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