1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody. Welcome into Texans All Access from the 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Honday Texans Radio Studio, John Harris and Mark Vanimir taking 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: you through the next hour. We got oboken, We're gonna 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: join us. We have also got Blake Cashman doing a 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: little Drew's Dozen. So Mark Vanimer, we get a lot 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: to do. Let's go, let's go. I'm ready, Johnny. We 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: are back to practice tomorrow. It's game week. Everybody's pumped up, 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: all right. One of the fun things about getting old, well, 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: wait a second, let me rephrase that. There really are 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: no fun things about getting old. There a couple, but 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: go on. Yeah. One of the things, though, is when 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: it comes to like Hall of Fame voting and Hall 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: of Fame balloting, you can say, hey, I watched that 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: guy his entire career, right, I've seen that guy play. Obviously, 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Andre Johnson, he is one of those guys that we've 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: seen play, we know him very well, etc. J. J. Watt. 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: Eventually we'll be that guy in that in the mix. 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: So the Hall of Fame just had their induction. Tony 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: Basselli congratulations. Yeah. I can't really say it's the first 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: texting going, but his first Jaguar to go in. You've 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: got Leroy Butler went in, Dick Fromeo went in, amongst others. 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: Richard Seymour from the Patriots, who I know, Nicko Sario 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: would speak higlie of I would imagine coming up in 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. This is and you and I've talked 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: about this a little bit, but in twenty twenty three. 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: Back in twenty twenty two, I thought it would have 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: been moving great and Andrea got in. One of the 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: things that worried about Andre not getting in was what 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: was coming after in twenty twenty three, in particular, combine 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: that with the fact that we've seen all these guys play. 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: You have called games against these particular first year eligible players. 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: These guys are are first year eligible. So I want 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: to go Hall of Fame gut reaction because we've seen 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: these guys play. This isn't well, you know without looking 35 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: up the numbers, right, Noka, this is just your gut 36 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: reaction because I have one, two, three, two or locks 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: to me, okay, one is as a first year ballot 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: going in. Another one is very very close. I think 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: all three of those would definitely get in. Some of 40 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: the others I don't know, not totally sure. So here 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: we go. We're gonna start here. He owned his own island. 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Durrell Rivas is a first time eligible Hall of Famer. 43 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: What say you, I think based on reputation, I'm gonna 44 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: have to say, yes, he's a Hall of Famer. Is 45 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: the first year Hall of Fame. I gotta look at 46 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: the numbers, Johnny. I feel like he is. That the 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: Jets thought so highly of him, and we all saw 48 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: that during hard knocks, and look, they went to back 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: to back AFC Championship games. They beat New England in 50 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: New England in the playoffs when that was extremely difficult 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: to do. I give him a lot of credit for that. 52 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: He was Vos Island. He was really good by the time, 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: well one of the times he played here in twenty fifteen. 54 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Hopkins put quotes around Rivas Island because he 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: torched him in that game, and that was towards the 56 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: end for Rievas. I'm gonna say, you know what, probably yeah, 57 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes, he's he's my first year eligible lock. 58 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: I think he's in. I think you said it. His reputation, 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: whether you know Rivas eye and whatever you thought of that. 60 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: I just know when I watched Durell Rivers, not a 61 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: lot of guys called passes against him, just didn't and 62 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: to a point where Bill Belichick went out and got 63 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: him for one year twenty fourteen, and they end up 64 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: winning a super Bowl and then he goes back to 65 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: the Jets after that. So Durrell reevs to me is 66 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: he's one of my locks. He's in first year Hall 67 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: of Famer. There's no doubt. I think Revis is definitely 68 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: that guy. Okay, now we're gonna make you throw up. Okay, 69 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: ye kind of probably edge Dwight, Freeney, Johnny. I have 70 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: to say, you know what, it's interesting about Freenie and Matti. 71 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: It's kind of like Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne. Right, 72 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: they worked together so well, so effective together. Does one 73 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: hurt the other's chances? Harrison's already in we're gonna talk 74 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: about Reggie Wayne. I'm sure in this segment, well his 75 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: name might come up because he was eligible last year 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: along with Drey Johnson, and that means, look, he's still 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: gonna be in the mix this year because he did 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: not get in. I'm gonna say Freenie's a Hall of Famer. 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: Do you think he gets it on the first ballot. 80 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say maybe not. I'm with you on that. 81 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: I think he probably gets it eventually. I think you 82 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: were right on both accounts. I don't think he's a 83 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: first ballot guy. He's not the other one. We'll get 84 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: to him in a little bit. But I do think 85 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: he goes in the Hall of Fame. I think when 86 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: I think about the NFL, the throwing game really starting, 87 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: the passing game really kind of kicking into effect in 88 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight with a mel Blunt rule came in 89 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: where you couldn't just absolutely mall receivers all over the field, 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: which apparently they have allowed in college football all this time. 91 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: Be the way when they put it in seventy eight, 92 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: offenses blew up. Well, then you had to find ways 93 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: how do you slow him down? Well, it felt like 94 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: the passing game went to a different level, and about 95 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: into two thousands, that's when teams were like, yeah, we 96 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: know that three things happen when you throw it, and 97 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: two of them are bad, but you know what, that 98 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: first one's good, and the second one we can live with, 99 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: and the third one will just make sure that we're 100 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: safely avoiding those, so yeah, we're gonna throw it more. 101 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: It felt like Freeny was one of those guys in 102 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: that time frame that became Okay, this could be a 103 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: thorn in our side in all of this, because he's 104 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: that good of a pass rusher, and he's a little shorter, 105 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: a little squattier, but man, he was tremendous first round 106 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: pick out of Syracuse. I think he goes in I'm 107 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: with you. How about this, though, Freeny and Matthis are 108 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: right next to each other on the all time sack leader, 109 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: I would have never thought that I whead well ahead. 110 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: Freeny's got one twenty five, He's two and a half 111 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: ahead of Matthis all time. I know you wouldn't think it. 112 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: It feels like Matthis is the Reggie Wayne. He's not 113 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: quite as productive and everything. Matthis was monumentally important because 114 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: he had to worry so much about both of these 115 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: guys coming off the edge. Wow, I would have never 116 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: thought that that close. And I mean, I know I've 117 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: always said Matthis was exceptional too. I would have if 118 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: you would have picked Okay, which guy do you feel 119 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: like you have to double to slow down or chip? 120 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: Definitely I would have said, Freeny, let matthis get his 121 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: And so maybe that's more to the greatness of Freny 122 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: in some sense of teams focused on him and matthis 123 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: was getting a lot of one on one battle. And 124 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: who was one player that Dwayne Brown always said gave 125 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: him fits more than any other. It was Dwight Freeneye. 126 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: That was kind of kryptonite in a way for Dwayne Brown. 127 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: It was interesting in the twenty fifteen All or Nothing 128 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: that was on Amazon with the Cardinals, Freeny signed with them. 129 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: He was really fun to listen to. He ran some 130 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: of the meetings just because of his experience and facing 131 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: guys and how you know, dealing with the pass rushers, 132 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: and it was really interesting to watch Freeny in that 133 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: in that sort of setting. But at the very end, 134 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, he had a couple of years. I'm trying 135 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: to remember who all he was with. I know he's 136 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals, and there was somebody else after that too, 137 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: I remember correctly. But he's in the Hall of Fame. 138 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: He's a Hall of Famer. I think he's one of 139 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: the best pass rushers he's ever been. And we get 140 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: to another pass rusher here and all I can think 141 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: about is two thousand and eight starting the season, first 142 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: game of the year. What do you remember James Harrison? Yes, 143 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: James Harrison. Is he a first year eligible Hall of Famer? 144 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: Is he a Hall of Famer? He's undrafted, right, and 145 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: undrafted and cut three times for the Steelers. How about that? 146 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: And I think he was cut by the Browns too. Yeah. 147 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: Remember he retired and he came back what with the 148 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: Bengals or did he go to the Bengals? He went 149 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: from Steelers to Bengals and then he retired and then 150 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: went to the Patriots. Wow, he's the Patriots in I 151 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: can't remember what year that was, sixteen, I think it was. 152 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: I'd say, yes, Johnny, it's he. He has the period 153 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: of dominance from like oh eight oh seven, o eight, 154 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: maybe before that. Maybe like th teammates would vote him in, 155 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's that kind of guy. 156 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: He means more than just the numbers too. Yes, he 157 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: has a ruboff effect on other players. Is he a 158 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: first year out? Do you think he doesn't first year No? 159 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't think so either. I do think he's a 160 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I think he was a tone setter 161 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh I think he's got the period of dominance 162 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: which I want to see. And I think he he 163 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: elongated his career too. I mean he played for a 164 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: long He played for a lot longer than I have. 165 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: The numbers here two thousand and two to two thousand 166 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: and seventeen. Yeah, on the sacklist, he's not that high 167 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: sixty third eighty because the first three or four years 168 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: there's just special teams. Yeah, And I think it's more 169 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: than the numbers with him, it's Hall of Fame performance. 170 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: It's I'm on the same defense as James Harrison, so 171 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ball out because he's just that leader yes 172 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: type and has, like I said, that effect on others. 173 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: There is a contains, just sort of thing that happens 174 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: when you're on a defense with him. He's playing so 175 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: hard and you got that highlight. You got that highlight. 176 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: Whether that matters or not, He's got that highlight in 177 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: the super Bowl that returned for a touchdown. I think 178 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: he goes in year two. I actually could see Harrison 179 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: and Freini going in together in year two, but I 180 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: think they're definitely going in all right. This one's interesting 181 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: because offensive linemen are always kind of tricky, especially this one, 182 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: because he played for such awful, just got awful, rotten 183 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: football teams. Cleveland Brown's iron man, Joe Thomas. All right, 184 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas is definitely going in. He's probably a first 185 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: Battle Hall of Famer. He's one of these offensive linemen 186 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: who has so much respect and it's the football people 187 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: you have to listen to. It's an offensive line. It 188 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: reminds me. Look, when I went to college, John Hannah 189 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: was this legend in New England, and he played on 190 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: a lot of bad teams. And he played on some 191 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: good teams too, but he played on a lot of 192 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: bad teams. But everyone's at John Hannah, John Hannahan. Yeah, 193 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famers. It's automatic. I mean, he's 194 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: so good. Okay, I'll take your w for it. All right. 195 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: I just saw the team get bludgeoned and go two 196 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: and fourteen. But I'll take your word for it. That 197 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: hand is awesome. It's the same thing with Joe Thomas. 198 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: Everyone who knows knows, and I think that's enough to 199 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: get him in. Johnny, I think you're right. I think 200 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas to me was the other lock. He was 201 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: the second lock to me. Reevus and Joe Thomas. I 202 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: think our lock first year they're going in. It's I 203 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be who was it was it? Uh, 204 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: it's either Mike Chappell or Bob Kravitz, who is on 205 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame committee. And he stood up when 206 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: it was Peyton Mannings here and he said, I'm here 207 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: to announce Indianapolis Colts and Denver Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning 208 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: apparently sat back down and that was it. That's his presidentation. 209 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna take that. I do think 210 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some discussion actually around Revus and Thomas, 211 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: but I think those two are gonna go in. So 212 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: those are your two. Those are the dead pipe cinch. 213 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: Here's the third one that I am. I'm teetering on, 214 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: and it's a hard one because I think with tackles, 215 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: we can see tackles, we can see them go against 216 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: pass rushers. I remember Tony Basselli and even though Bruce 217 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Smith doesn't like this, Tony Basselli became Tony Basselli when 218 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: he was shutting down Bruce Smith in the playoffs, and 219 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: they kept cutting to it, they kept showing highlights. They 220 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: weren't showing the running back. They weren't showing Natron Means 221 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: with the runs. They were showing BASSELLI going to work 222 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: on Bruce Smith that during the playoff game, and so 223 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: that really resonated, and I think people can can see 224 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: that with tackles guards. I think it's hard the guards. 225 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: I really think you have to go on reputation and 226 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: how those teams performed. I think it's a lot harder 227 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: for people to see guards. So I bring up Jarry Evans, 228 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: who played with the New Orleans Saints and was as 229 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: steady as it gets. He's the one I'm waffling on 230 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: because when I remember watching him, I remember thinking dominant dude. 231 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: But I don't know for an interior player that I 232 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: just am ready to stamp him and say, yes, he's going, yes, 233 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: no doubt. I didn't watch him as closely throughout his 234 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: entire career as I have others like Quentnon Nelson. Like 235 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: when quentn Nelson's up, also, yeah he's you know, seen 236 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: enough of him, gonna go in that kind of thing. 237 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm waffling a little bit on whether he should be 238 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: at first year lock, but I definitely think Jerry Evans 239 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: gets infesting Somewhere on my Facebook feed. There's a picture 240 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: of me and Jarry Evans at the Super Bowl and 241 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: he was doing a horizon thing and so was I 242 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: and we were there together, and he had his super 243 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: Bowl ring from his championship year in the only nine season, 244 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: So it must have been the next year's Super Bowl 245 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: or maybe two years later, because you know the ring. 246 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I got a picture of us, 247 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: and I remember thinking about this, like, how long is 248 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: he gonna play? How good is he really? I know 249 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: he's really good, Johnny, It's gonna take a while. He's 250 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to wait. He's gonna have to wait to 251 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: get in. I think there's a lot of respect there, 252 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: but he's gonna have to wait. I base my evaluation 253 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: of offensive lineman purely on reputation, which is the most 254 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: important thing. No, it's not. It's really not the most implant, 255 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: but in something like this, I think it is. But 256 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: in something like this it does come into play because 257 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: it's the team you played for, it's championships. One those 258 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: things really matter. If the Texans had been able to 259 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: win a super Bowl with Andrey Johnson, I don't think 260 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: that we would be waiting this long, right, It's not 261 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: like we've waited a long time because it's only year 262 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: two now. But I think he would have gotten in 263 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: a year one, possibly if the Texans had a championship 264 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: and he was a big part of that. Okay, this 265 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: next one is interesting to me because when you talk 266 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: about reputation, I feel like this next player around the 267 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: league was about as respected as it gets. And if 268 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: you ask people for a stretch of time, even though 269 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: he played on a defense that had a ton of 270 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: alpha's a ton, he was the alpha and at defense 271 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: and they all knew it. And that's legion of boom safety. 272 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor, don't start with me, because he is the 273 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: guy who really got the play going that changed everybody's 274 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: lives into my thirteen the Seattle Seahawks game. Here everybody 275 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: remembers Richard Sherman, the pig running down the sideline into 276 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: the end zone. But it was Cam Chancellor with the 277 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: pressure and the guy that should have either caused Shob 278 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: to call time out or changed to play because he 279 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: was coming in untouched and Matt was going to have 280 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: heat in the form of Chancellor, and he lollypopped the 281 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: ball to Owen Daniels, and I know he didn't want 282 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: to do it that way, but it just turned out 283 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: to be that way because he's under tremendous pressure. But 284 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if Matt knew it and thought I 285 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: can get the ball to Owen anyway, or he came 286 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: in faster than he thought, because there's no way he 287 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: was not coming in. He was unblocked, and Matt knew 288 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: the play, so we knew he was going to come 289 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: in unblocked. So now you made me relive that play, 290 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: and I do want to vomit. But Cam Chancellor, to me, 291 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of like Jerry Evans. I think 292 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to wait a little bit, but I 293 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: think he's got a shot to get in. I think 294 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: he's Safety's tough. Safety is tough, especially a guy that 295 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: did you know a lot of Paul Krouse. It took 296 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: Paul Crouse forever and he led the NFL and interceptions. 297 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: Think he at eighty one. It took him forever to 298 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: get in. But when you have guys that can put 299 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: up a number, Hey, I had the interceptions. This guy 300 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: was a you know cover, I mean his teammate Earl Thomas. 301 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: Although Earl sort of melted down at the end of 302 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: his career, Earls and want to put up the interceptions 303 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: he had the quote unquote numbers. Chancellor did it through 304 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: intimidation and reputation. He was the fiercest hitter maybe in 305 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: the NFL when hitting was starting to go kind of 306 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: like out of phase, like you didn't. It's funny because 307 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: as I go through and I look at different college 308 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: prospects and I see a guy that can hit, I'm like, 309 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't matter as much anymore. As much as I 310 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: love to watch guys that have that in them, it 311 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: just doesn't matter that much anymore. But where mattered for 312 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: Chancellor was the fact that he was such an intimidating 313 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: force that against the run receiver's catching ball in space. 314 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: He was that guy and he drove ever everything for 315 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: a defense that was thought to be one of the 316 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: best in league history for a stretch of time. I 317 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: think Chancellor eventually gets in. Eventually gets in, but I 318 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: think it's gonna take him a few years for that reason, 319 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: because he was kind of a strong safety in a hey, 320 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: there's no longer a strong safety on the field. Kind 321 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: of world. Richard Sherman, No, right, I don't think so. 322 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't you have to give those guys credit. We 323 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: got a few years before we can answer that one. 324 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: But I think Richard Sherman I might put in there. Wow, 325 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: I would put in there. I mean his body of 326 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: work is pretty darn good. I mean he's got a 327 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: number of Pro Bowls on there. Um, he was you 328 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: could argue the best corner in the league for two 329 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: three years. I think it would put Sherman in there. Yeah, 330 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: but I think Sherman's got I just looked it up. 331 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: Three time first team All Pro. That is pretty darn strong, 332 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: five time Pro Bowler. It's gonna take what the league 333 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: in picks in twenty thirteen where he hand that picks 334 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: sacks ain't gonna bring. He's on the All Decades Team. 335 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: He's in. Yeah, he's a decade team. He's in. He's in. 336 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: Unless you're Leroy Butler. I took you forever to get in. Um, 337 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: but I think Leroy Leroy is a great comp in 338 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: some sense to Cam Chancellor. Took Leroy forever to get 339 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: in because I don't think people were able to quantify 340 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,239 Speaker 1: how important Leroy Butler was the Packers, and I think 341 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: Cam's gonna end up being kind of the same way. 342 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: There were so many alphas on that defense, between Richard 343 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: Sherman and Bobby Wagner, kJ Wright, Michael Bennett, Pavor. Minute 344 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: defense was ridiculous. They were credible and you could argue, Man, 345 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: they should have at least one more championship. Yeah, that 346 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 1: that grew. They were so good. You have Russell Wilson 347 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: at quarterback, everything they had to offer offensively. Defensively, Nixon 348 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: was a squad. Nick's gonna walk down here and hit 349 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: you with that ring from twenty fourteen. He's like, no, 350 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: this one's mine. Okay. Now we get into the um 351 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: the flashy part of this list because we get to 352 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and running backs. Running backs first or a quarterback. 353 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: So these are eligible in first ten eligible in twenty 354 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: twenty three. This is what Dre will be up against. 355 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: These are the first year eligible players for the Hall 356 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: of Fame. I mentioned Darrell Reeves, Dwight Freeney, James Harrison, 357 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, Jarry Evans, Cam Chancellor. Here are your two 358 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: running backs. I'm not gonna tell you how I feel 359 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: about them, but I'm I'm very set and how I 360 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: look at these two running back Natt Forte no running back, 361 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: Chris two K Johnson no the same, the same thought. 362 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: I like both of them. They were very very good 363 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: in their careers. But I'm with you on that. I 364 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: think they both go into the Hall of very good. 365 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: I mean Johnson's two thousand season, I mean it was 366 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: it was tremendous. Outside of that, especially after that, he 367 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: there wasn't there wasn't much there Now he came back, 368 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 1: I think he came back with the Cardinals in twenty fifteen, 369 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: but he was never the same after that. So he 370 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: had three pretty good years, but then after that it 371 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: was just it was so sold. FOURTE was very consistent. 372 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: But I don't know that you ever looked at FOURTE 373 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: and thought, I'm looking at the best back in the league. 374 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: It'd be interesting to get Lovey Smith's thoughts on FOURTE. 375 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: That's a good one. You're right, though, to bring it 376 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: up that way. I always think with Hall of famers, 377 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: are you one of the top three at your position 378 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL over a period of time. I don't 379 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: think you could say that about FOURTE. When we're talking 380 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: about the best backs to play and FOURTE was a 381 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: little bit late O's and most of the teens best 382 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: backs to play in the teens. When does his name 383 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: come up in the conversation? He's out of the top five. 384 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: You who got love? You to draft him? Who cults? 385 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: Gm oh Chris Ballard, he was with the Bears at 386 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: the time. He said, draft map fourtet. It was interesting. 387 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: Fourte was really kind. I don't say he's off the 388 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: radar screen. But then it was either as protey or combine. 389 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: He ran like a four four five, and it was like, oh, 390 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: maybe we need to think about this. Let's look at 391 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: this map fo take character. And if you remember, for 392 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: Tay came after they had drafted said Benson and said 393 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: Benson just didn't work out, And they drafted Benson but 394 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: fourth overall and Benson a few good years, but then 395 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: they ended up going to Forte, and that guy was tremendous. 396 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he's all famer. I'm with you, Forte, John. 397 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some names of people who have 398 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: more yards than Matt Forte in their career, Corey Dillon, 399 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: Sean McCoy, Warwick Done, Ricky Williams. Oh how about that? Wow, 400 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: Marshawn Tiki Barber. Do you think Marshawn's Hall of Famer? See, 401 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: that's a reputation thing. That's Beast Mode the brand. Yeah, 402 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: and he's awesome and that helps. And you're gonna have 403 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: to say with these backs, you know, I'm reading yardage 404 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: totals here, I'm not really giving you the numbers, but 405 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: these guys are all in the top thirty. Yeah, and 406 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: Forte's at thirty third all time in rushing. You know, 407 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: you gotta be up there. You have to have a 408 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: body of work, some longevity, and you have to have, 409 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: like you say, maybe some highlight reel stuff and the reputation. 410 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: It all kind of goes together. I think Forte definitely 411 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: definitely had the consistency factor going for him, but period 412 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: of dominance, I don't know, maybe love he's listening right now. 413 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: I want to say Slayton had more yards as rookie year. 414 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: Maybe they were. They were rookies in the same year, 415 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: and oh wait, I remember that it was Slayton and Forte, 416 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: and Forte was good though, I'll give him that. Forte 417 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: was good. And Johnson, of course when you covered him, 418 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: he wasn't a great receiver or No, he was a 419 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: really good receiver, but when you left him uncovered. See, 420 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: now you're getting me mad. All right, here's your quarterback, 421 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: And I know my answer is on this guy, Carson Palmer. 422 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: No first Joe eligible for the Hall of Fame. No, No, 423 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't even know if you 424 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: created an auxiliary haul is very good. I don't even 425 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: know if I would put him in there. No, he 426 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: was good. He might have been very good at times 427 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: with Arizona. It was nice to see them see him 428 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: make that late run in his career later or in 429 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: fifty make it to an NFC championship game, right, and 430 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: we all remember the playoff game with the Bengals. My gosh, 431 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: they finally get in there. He is getting hurt on 432 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: a touchdown throw on the and it just costs them 433 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: and him so dearly ends up with the Raiders, right, 434 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: and then the Cardinals. He's not a Hall of Famer, 435 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: There is no way. There's a long list of guys 436 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: who need to go in before Carson Palmer. But he 437 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: was a good quarterback. I don't think. I mean, I 438 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: don't even know if I put him in a Hall 439 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: of the very good, at least with these guys, Rivas, 440 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: the thing's going. Rivas will go in free. You are going, 441 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: Harris are going. I believe Thomas and Evans eventually, Chancer, 442 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: Eventually those guys will go in. I don't think fort 443 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: and Johnson get in. Maybe wants to get to the 444 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: seniors committee. I don't think Palmer would even get to 445 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: the hall. Very good, and he was. You're right, he 446 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: was good. But did you ever feel like you're facing 447 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: one of the top at any time he was playing. 448 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: Ever feel like you're facing one of the top five 449 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league at any point? No, but he 450 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: was dangerous. He could be very You know, you could 451 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: do a lot worse than a healthy Carson Palmer on 452 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: your team, and I think that's just didn't work out 453 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: with the Raiders. But that's what was attractive. You know, 454 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: he's the number one overall pick, and he's one of 455 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: those guys like Mahomes who sat the first year and 456 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: played behind the veteran. Remember the veteran it was that 457 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: John k John Kittena and Cincinnati played well. I don't 458 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: want to I don't want to poop poop Palmer because 459 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: I you're right, he was a good quarterback. But I 460 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: don't think he's and then think he's a whole family. 461 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: He played a lot of years, man, he did. He 462 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: played for four through seventeen forty six thousand yards. But 463 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: that's I gotta see where that stands in today's world. 464 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: Forty forty six thousand, that's like eight mahomes years it is. 465 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean guys are throwing for five I mean Rogers 466 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: probably threw for fifteen thousand and last well, no, he 467 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: probably threw for ten grand plus the last two years. 468 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: He's fifteenth on the all time list. I'll tell you what, 469 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: five years, he'll be twenty fifth. That's that's why people 470 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: are look at Flacco is nineteenth. By the way, Flacco 471 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,239 Speaker 1: falls in the same category. Is not going to rack 472 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: up enough yards to get by him, but Flacco is, 473 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: so he'll fall out of the top twenty. But let 474 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: me tell you something. As far as active guys that 475 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: are threatening the top twenty, Russell Wilson has thirty seven 476 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: thousand yards, so he'll hit the top twenty this year. 477 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, good luck, Fitz he's done. H Kirk Cousins 478 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: has eight thousand yards. You know he could easily hit 479 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: that top twenty. All right, you got one game to win, 480 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: one game to win. You're taking Fitzy or Carson Palmer. 481 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: I know it sounds like a tomb question, but if 482 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: you really think about it, it's one game. It's one game, 483 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: sixty minutes to pull anything out of your backside at all. 484 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm a hopeless So I'm taking Fitzy. I'm taking Fitzy two. 485 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: I would trust Fitzy in that situation too. He's he's 486 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: half crazy as it is. Yeah, but he's gonna do 487 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: something in that game where you go, huh wow, we 488 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: don't win that game without him. I'm going Fitzy. Palmer 489 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: was kind of a statue, you know, not that he 490 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: wasn't aim a good athlete, but there's a there's a 491 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: big difference here. One game. I take one season, of course, 492 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: and take a Palmer. So see who's in the Hall 493 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: of Fame ahead of Carson Palmer, Tarkenton, Warren Moon, Yes, well, 494 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: Stafford still playing? Oh how many throw yards of Stafford thrown? 495 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: For forty nine thousand? Like he's six yards away from 496 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: fifty from fifty? Wow? Elway Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning is 497 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: Eli Manning a first ballot Hall of Famer that's a 498 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: big one. That's three Johnny. Matt Ryan will hit sixty 499 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: thousand yards possibly on opening day this year at NRG Stadium. Wow, Wow, Yeah, 500 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: I did not is two makes five away from sixty 501 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: thousand and that would be in the top seven. Marino 502 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: is seventh, and then Rivers, Roethlisberger, I'm going up here 503 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: five Manning Breeze, Brady Wow. So Ryan met It's he's 504 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: lasted so long. And they had some offense man, people 505 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: forget they did. They had some guys they did, They 506 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: definitely did. And we got some guys here and some 507 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: guys that are gonna sack Matt Ryan. Oh, coron Quo 508 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: is one of them, and maybe the other is Blake 509 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: Cashman when he blitzes. They are both up next on 510 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: Texans All Access X not Texans All Access X not 511 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: Texans All Access X not Texas Welcome Backs Monday Edition 512 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: to Texas All Access from the Honday Texans Radios Studio. 513 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris, still coming to grips 514 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: with the loss of the great Olivia Newton. John passed 515 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: away today at seventy three. My gosh, my first crush. 516 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: I mean, how many of my demographic and I'm fitty, 517 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: how many of my demographic was Olivia Newton John not 518 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 1: the first crush? Okay, fair faucet too, because she had 519 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: a poster and was on Charlie's Angels. But if you 520 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: saw Grease, you it was Olivan Newton John. It was 521 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: Olivia Newton John. Now, I don't think our next two 522 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: guests would have crushes on Olivia Newton John because they 523 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: are in their twenties and they may not know who 524 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: Olivia Newton John is. If they've seen Grease, it's probably 525 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 1: been a remake. But that's okay because they played football, 526 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: and they played very well, and they're great dudes. And 527 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: one is from a Leaf. That's right, a Houston homeboy. 528 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: That's Obo okron Quo's a really good training camp. But 529 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: we wanted to get to know him a little further, 530 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: so Drew Doherty had a chance to catch up with 531 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: Obo okron Quo aka oh b Easy, Obo Coronquo joins 532 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: me now, and this is fun because it's home grown 533 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: talent talking to me. You were from a Leaf, You're 534 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: from Houston. Let's start there. How sweet is it to 535 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: be back in the place you grew up? Oh man, 536 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: this is a real feeling, you know, just being able 537 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: to be here, see how the people I grew up with. 538 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: It's been a real it's been real cool. What's the 539 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: first place you went back to that you had to 540 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: get back to when you move back home. I went 541 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: to my high school. I went to a leave Taylor, 542 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: you know, take that my whole sumping ground. So it 543 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: was cool. What was reception like? They were definitely happy 544 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: to see but shared definitely happy to see, Vie. Who 545 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: are some of your coaches that you love the most, 546 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: that you love seeing when you got back? A lot 547 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: of them are gone. But plus Brian Randall, he was 548 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: my defensive coordinator and head coach when I left, and 549 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: then John lands at the defensive line coach. But they 550 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: both went to other high schools. You went to high 551 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: school there, then you go to Oklahoma for college, been 552 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: in the league. You're an adult now and you come 553 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: back to the place you grew up. How different do 554 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: you see the city versus back when you were leaving 555 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: high school. Well, I didn't have a license back in 556 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: high school, so I wasn't driving anywhere. I didn't know 557 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: how big the city was. You know, it's so big. 558 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: And then at the same time, it's so small because 559 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: everybody knows each other. But it's been really cool just 560 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: to be back. Being adult in the city is a 561 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: little different than being a teenager in the city, you know, 562 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: just being able to go to different restaurants, just seeing 563 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: how many hunt the infrastructure has changed so much. It's 564 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: been cool. What's been your favorite spot that you've that 565 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: you found that you got back? Favorite spot? I don't 566 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: want to give any shout outs, but but just Society 567 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: is so good. I eat there like three times a week. 568 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: Oh and Joey's. I go to Joey's Uptown too. The 569 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: other two of my spots that I frequent that good 570 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: to know, all right, So you like those two spots, 571 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: you like being back, Let's say, for the rest of 572 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: your life. When you walk into a room and they're 573 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: gonna play an entrance song for what song you want 574 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: them to play? Oh, that's a that's a question. Return 575 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: of the Mac I really I love the old School 576 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: for sure. That's a good one. That Did you ever 577 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: mess around with Morland Mac and sing that with him? 578 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: I could. He's a cool guy, so I'm sure he's 579 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: hit to that. That's a song that kind of just 580 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: it stands the test of time for sure. Just a 581 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: timeless song. What's the last meal that you cooked? Last meal, 582 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: I cooked air friar salmon. I used some lemon pepper. 583 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: I put a lemon on there. Well, I don't know 584 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: if that did anything for the taste, but it looked cool. 585 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: What's your go to dish that you cook? Go to dish, 586 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: I would say, I make a I make a nice 587 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: little cilantro lime rice with with some garlic, shrimp. You know. 588 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: I had some asparagus, some potatoes. That's that's my go to. 589 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: Look out popados, but that sounds good. Hello. Okay, what's 590 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: the last gift you gave somebody? My last the gift 591 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: that I gave somebody. I'm a big gift giver. So 592 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: can I actually have one? My friend, one of my 593 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: best friend's birthdays today. It's in my locker right now. 594 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna drop it off to him after I 595 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: buy him a lens first camera. Okay, we'll hold off 596 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: on saying who it is and we'll wait to publish 597 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: this until it goes out. But a lens for camera, 598 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: that's that's no small gift. That's I mean, he's a 599 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: he's a really talented photographers. So you know, I always 600 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: want to give him more tools for his tool bilt. 601 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: That's awesome, man. Now you're we got to get into 602 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: photography with you because you're a hell of a photographer. 603 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: That's how I met you. I was in Las Vegas 604 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: at the draft backstage you were doing. We were waiting 605 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: on the two picks who wound up not being you know, 606 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, you were backstage shooting some stuff for 607 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 1: the NFL, and it was awesome. I mean, how much 608 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: fun did you have just doing that at Vegas? Oh? 609 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: That was so fun, you know, being able to shoot 610 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: those guys and talk to them about just the process 611 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: and just the experience of being at the draft. It 612 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: was really cool. Do you ever find yourself after practice, 613 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 1: before practice, when you're walking out and you see all 614 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: these big lenses, like I wonder what that is? Or 615 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: I know what that is? I mean, do you ever 616 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: you ever thinking photography when you're when you're not actually 617 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: on the practice field doing stuff. Oh it's funny. Sometimes 618 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: I walk out here and I'll be like, oh, that's 619 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: the stuff Sunny seven there three, I have that too. 620 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: But I'll be like, well, that's a nice lens wonder 621 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: what glaster has you know, they don't have to snap 622 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: back like try to go to way. Yeah it's distracted. Guy, 623 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: could I could imagine you just want to ring with 624 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: the Rams. You want to ring win rings here with 625 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 1: the Texans. But we got to talk a little bit. 626 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: Plant two is what you say? I like that. What 627 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: was the ring ceremony? Like? How sweet was that for 628 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: you being a part of all that? Man? The ring 629 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: ceremony was just so it was so amazing. Man, just 630 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: being able to just celebrate with like your coaches, like 631 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: the guys you go out with. You know, that's opportunity 632 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: A lot of guys want to get to have, you know, 633 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: just to be able to see their coach, the fun 634 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: side of their coaches, you know. But when you went, 635 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: that brings out the fun side of everybody. So it 636 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: was really cool just to be able to celebrate. But 637 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: my old coaches, my old teammates that one last time 638 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: that we'll all be together, you know. Yeah, that's really cool. 639 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: And if there's a spectrum of a guy getting the ring, 640 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: putting it in his closet and never wear it again, 641 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: to a guy who wears it all the time, where 642 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: are you gonna fall in that spectrum as far as 643 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: how much you're gonna wear this ring. I'm gonna I'm 644 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: gonna bring it out. It's gonna be like it's gonna 645 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: be like my Sunday's best. I'm gonna bring it out 646 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: when when is time to bring it out? You know 647 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. You gotta bring it out when 648 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: you got to, right, Yes, sir, all right, Obo. We 649 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: could go on and on and on. I really do 650 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: appreciate time. We can't wait to see you guys. Bring 651 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,239 Speaker 1: some rings here to Houston. Welcome back to chtown. Man. 652 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: We're happy for you. Man, I'm happy to be here. 653 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: Thank you. Man. A leaf in the house. Love it 654 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: also love a man from the you. Now, if you 655 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: live in Minnesota, the U is not Miami, the you 656 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: is Minnesota. And Blake Cashman went to the University of Minnesota, 657 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: had a legendary career there with the Gophers. Been banged 658 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: up with the Jets. But he is healthy and he 659 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: is doing some good work. And he did a little 660 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: Drews dozen with Drew Doherty. We've got linebacker Blake Cashman 661 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: here for a Drews dozen. Blake, You're from Minnesota, so 662 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: hockey in Minnesota versus football in Texas, which is bigger. 663 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: I'd probably say football in Texas bigger, just because I 664 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: think of Texas as its own country within a country 665 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: in a way. But whenever I compare or talk about 666 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: hockey in Minnesota for people to understand it, that's how 667 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: I compare it. I say hockey in Minnesota is equivalent 668 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: to football in Texas. Like that's how big of a 669 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: deal it is to people up there in the North. 670 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: Obviously you're a football guy, but you love hockey. I 671 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: do love hockey. I played hockey growing up until middle school, 672 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: and then it came down to making a decision between 673 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: that and basketball, and I chose a basketball route. You 674 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: made the right choice, because now you're in the NFL. 675 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: You're going Okay, so as a proud Minnesota and I 676 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: think you're a proud Minnesota. Yes, yes, How true is 677 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: the statement Iowa stands for idiots out wandering around. Oh 678 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: we don't like Iowa, especially if especially if you went 679 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: to the University of Minnesota. We I mean them in Wisconsin. 680 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: We have a lot of a lot of hatred for 681 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: that state. But yeah, we like to think though the 682 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: Midwest is a one big family kind of contradicts each other. 683 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: But you know, when it comes to sports, we were 684 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: at war. It's ultimately a loving hatred, right, Yes, yeah, yeah, 685 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: there's respect, but it's we're at war. That's the best 686 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: way I can put it. I used to work with 687 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: a guy from Minnesota who who sprung that on me 688 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: one time, and like the rest of the day, we 689 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: were all everyone in the office was just laughing about 690 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: idiots out wandering. Yeah, I've heard that one, and so 691 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: obviously him a go for Anny Universe in Minnesota, and 692 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: we have a chant that goes, who hates Iowa? We 693 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: hate Island the whole stadium and be chanting that throughout 694 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: the game. I like that's pretty good. All right, Let's 695 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: rank the folks with cash or dollars in their name. 696 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: Got you you got Yankees general manager Brian Cashman, and 697 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: you get the man in black Johnny cash You got 698 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: ty dollars sign and you got the cashwenty millionaires. Where 699 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: are you in the order? You know, you always got 700 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: a root for yourself, better yourself, So I gotta put 701 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: myself at number one. Probably put Brian Cashman, right Yankees? 702 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: You know that's that's the richest team in baseball, right, 703 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: So I'll probably put him at at two. And we 704 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: got Johnny cash cash twenty millionaires. I'm gonna put tiny 705 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: cash legendary guy, and then I'm gonna put the cash 706 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: money millionaires four or five tyed doll aside. There we go. 707 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: That's a good ranking. I'll take that. Okay. What's the 708 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: last gift you gave someone? Last gift? I bought my 709 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: girlfriend a plane ticket to come see me. That was 710 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: the last gift I've that's a dark guy. That's a 711 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: good But where was she Where was she coming from? Uh, 712 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: well she hasn't come yet, but she's coming for the 713 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: first brief game, so it's uh, she's she'll be coming 714 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: from meniapolts. Okay, that's a good that's a good trip. 715 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: That's a good gift man. You get to see her 716 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: complete this sentence. I didn't realize htown dot dot dot 717 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: was so humid. I knew it was hot, I did 718 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: not expect it to be super humid. It's making you 719 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: a different person physically, isn't it. It is? It is? 720 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: And mentally yes, it especially when you're you're training, working 721 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: hard outside, you're grinding. But when before I got to Houston, 722 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: I knew. I knew it was hot, and I knew 723 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: I had a lot of good food. But other than that, 724 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: I didn't know much. But it being a big city. 725 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: But the humidity that's different. It's it's like nowhere I've 726 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: ever been. It's indescribable. I'm a if you've never been here, 727 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: blocka with three wise that's your IG handle? How come? 728 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: So there's little skit what's called key Impel video posted 729 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: on YouTube a long time ago. So I was a 730 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: sophomore in high school actually, and one of the seniors 731 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: on the basketball team kept calling me blockade. I never 732 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: understood what he was referring to, and I, why do 733 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: you call me blockade? Because I just go look up 734 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: the video key and peel substitute teacher. So I did that, 735 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: and it's stuck, and so everyone started calling me a 736 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: block ae. So I decided to make it my social 737 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: media hand. So now I got to look this up. Yes, Key, 738 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna enjoy this Key Impel substitute teacher. I get 739 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: a good laugh, he'll get a good laugh. All right, 740 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this. Okay, what's your go to 741 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: dish that you cook? I don't like to think of 742 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: myself as a somebody that cooks. I'm more like crafty, 743 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: like putting together snacks, I would say, but it's good. 744 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: What are some good craft I would thing I usually give. 745 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm cooking up by myself. It'll be like just like 746 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: a pasta or a stir fry is usually what I'll do. 747 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: It's it's easy for me. It's pretty quick. You gotta walk. Huh. 748 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: You gotta walk for that sturffry. W okay uh? Obell? 749 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: Just what comes you know, kind of pre made? Oh, 750 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: it's like the frozen stuff right about. How I've I 751 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: like when it comes to like you know, the sauces 752 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: and seasoning and all that. But like I've I've actually, 753 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, chopped up the meat and the vegetable, like 754 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: you're not screwing around. Seriously, I've done that. I've done 755 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: a little bit of work, you know for it. But 756 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: all Texans traded for you. Special Teams Coordinator Frank Ross 757 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: really took it interesting. How does it feel to be 758 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: traded for like somebody wanted you? It feels good. But 759 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: in this line of business, I can never get too comfortable, 760 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: you know. I have a great understanding that the linebacker 761 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: room here in Houston is very competitive. A lot of 762 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: talented players in that room, guys with a lot of experience, 763 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: have put out a lot of good film. So you know, 764 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: it's good to be wanted. And I I so, you know, 765 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: appreciate a Houston game and got me because I've enjoyed 766 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: every second of being here. I think this this staff, 767 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, from top down coaches, front office coaches, strange coaches, trainers. 768 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: You know, they've all done such a good job with 769 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: me and getting me prepared and honestly making me a 770 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: better and smarter player. But it's been it's been fun 771 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 1: to work with. Frank talks highly of me, and hopefully, 772 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, I can you know, continue to play well 773 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: through a training camp and show everyone here that I belong. 774 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: So it's kind of one of those things where it's nice, 775 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: but you sort of have to set it aside and 776 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: plat forward and make sure they look good for doing 777 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 1: that right. Yes, And you know, linebackers coach Miles Smith, 778 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: he says all the time to us, never get too high, 779 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: never get too low. And I feel like in the 780 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 1: NFL you always got to take everything you know as 781 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: a grain AsSalt because he'd like people can say good 782 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: things about you and then one horrendous game and there 783 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: get at you a completely different way, and bites versa. 784 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: You know, you may not think things are going your way, 785 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: but if you're doing the right stuff and an opportunity rising, 786 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,919 Speaker 1: you show out that one game, it can totally change 787 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: your career. So you just gotta you know, I feel like, 788 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: remain grounded and humble and just take care of your 789 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: business and the rest will settle itself up. Blake Cashman, 790 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: it's been great talking with you. I loved hearing the 791 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: chance from Minnesota. I liked turn about hockey versus basketball. 792 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: This has been a fun interview. Thank you very much. 793 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate those two stopping by. We get back. 794 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: We'll go around the NFL to finish up right here 795 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: on a Monday edition of Texans All Access Does does 796 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: we got one funal segments Monday edition of Texas All Access. 797 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: Great to be with you. I'm John Harris, football at 798 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: US and sideline reporter, and I consume a lot of 799 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: hot dogs now during a game and Energy stadium and 800 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 1: even on the road. I don't know good a chance 801 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: to eat until after the game. We travel on the plane. 802 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: When we're at home, it doesn't happen till I get home. 803 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this, if you get to the 804 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: games this year at Energy Stadium, you're gonna I have 805 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: an opportunity to really in a hot dog for almost 806 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 1: two dollars less than last year. Yes, the Texans unveiled 807 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: Fan First Deals today for all of you. They went 808 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: back and they looked into analytics on the four things 809 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: that people buy the most, Energy Stadium hot dog, twenty 810 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: ounce coke, chicken tenders basket, and the sixteen ounce bottled 811 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: domestic beer, all of them decreasing this year. The hot 812 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: dog is going from five to forty nine to three 813 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: seventy five, the coke from four seventy nine down a 814 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: dollar four to three seventy five, chicken tender's basket from 815 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: ten o nine to seven seventy five que me up 816 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: for some chicken tenders on game day, and then bottle 817 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: domestic beers go from eight sixty nine down to seven 818 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: ninety five. Is part of the first Fan Deals, and 819 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: Texas will continue to offer two dollars twelve ounce waters, 820 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 1: five dollars twelve ounce domestic draft beer, and two dollars 821 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: fifty cent twelve ounce domestic beer outside NRG Stadium. I 822 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 1: love it. So that's a total Just if you're doing 823 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 1: the math and you get it all up, that's a 824 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: little over twenty percent in total for those four items, 825 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: the four items that you the fans have consumed most 826 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: of all. So that's pretty cool. Greg Grissom, our Texas president, said, 827 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: and I quote, We're excited to unvail an innovative approach 828 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: to concession pricing the season in a world of increasing costs. 829 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: We chose decrease the price to select items on game 830 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 1: day based on conversations our fans, insight from analytics team. 831 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: We identify the foremost ordered items and adjusted their pricing. 832 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: How about that going to the game, saving a buck 833 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: watching the Texans win. That's awesome. I absolutely love the 834 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: approach that we've taken. And it's taken a little while 835 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: to get there, but we got there. And I mean 836 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: I would listen in my position, people ask me all 837 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: kinds of things. Is the roof going to be open? 838 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: I don't get as much as some people because will 839 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 1: know for the most part, like I'm Xas and knows 840 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: I'm football football, football, But I'll hear those things. You know, 841 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: your concession stand prices. You saw some teams around the 842 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: league do some different things, and so we're adapting as well, 843 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: and hopefully that will be received about as well as 844 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 1: the Red Helmet. Now, I don't know if anything's gonna 845 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: top the battle Red Helmet. I've never seen almost one 846 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: hundred percent thumbs up. I've never seen it, and I 847 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: don't think for anything the Texas have done other than 848 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 1: Andre Johnson going into the Ring of Honor, that's pretty 849 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: much about it. Hopefully this one will be there as well. 850 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: You get to save some money. Give me that chicken 851 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: tender basket. Somebody brings that to me on the sideline. 852 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: I got you covered, all right. That's gonna do it 853 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: for the show. Appreciate Mark being by Drew Obo, Blake 854 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: Cashman and all of you guys for listening. We'll see tomorrow, 855 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: remember Lovey Smith eight o'clock with Mark and I and 856 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: Texas Training Camp a live be there. Appreciate you guys, 857 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: and there's always go Texans