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Speaker 3: I would say that I would take Derwin more so

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Speaker 3: With Derwin each week, I can use him to take

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Speaker 1: So I would rather have Derwin more so than Sauce.

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Speaker 3: Look, DJ, one of the things that NFL teams are

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Speaker 1: I know he's coming. They're not going to leave him

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Speaker 1: out there with Tyreek Hill. I've seen Derwin James be

436
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Speaker 1: left alone with Tyreek Hill with no help like that.

437
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Speaker 1: You'd never step to the line of scrimmage as a

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Speaker 1: quarterback and feel comfortable knowing what you're looking at and

439
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Speaker 1: what's coming depending on where.

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Speaker 2: The safety is.

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Speaker 1: We always talk about quarterbacks. You know, safeties are the

442
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Speaker 1: window into the soul.

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Speaker 2: Of the defense.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna that's gonna be your tell, that's going to

445
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Speaker 1: help you with understanding what they're trying to do against you.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that when you have someone capable of

447
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Speaker 1: doing everything on a football field. And that's what like

448
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Speaker 1: a guy like der when James gives.

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Speaker 3: You, yeah, this this what it gives you and that's

450
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Speaker 3: why you have to have him, and that's why you

451
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Speaker 3: want to have that kind of player.

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Speaker 2: You want to have him.

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Speaker 3: You want to have a guy like Minka Fitzpatrick who

454
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Speaker 3: has corner like skills but can play the deep middle.

455
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Speaker 3: And his game has changed since he went to Pittsburgh,

456
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Speaker 3: but I still remember all the different things he did

457
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Speaker 3: in Miami, and you know it's still there.

458
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Speaker 1: Uh, it's just a different position.

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Speaker 2: It's a unique position.

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Speaker 3: It's also one of the reasons why you're seeing teams

461
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Speaker 3: kind of move away from the linebacker and they're having

462
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Speaker 3: that hybrid big safety kind of play there and nail formation.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know Jeremiah Willsue Cormole with Cleveland, he'd be

464
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Speaker 1: an interesting one to kind of have as a chess

465
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Speaker 1: piece to build a defensive system around. So anyways, that

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Speaker 1: that's an article. It's coming out. You can find that Friday.

467
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Speaker 1: It's fascinating topic there. Bucky's gonna list, what are you ranking?

468
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Speaker 1: Top ten on this thinge top ten? Top ten, top ten.

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Speaker 3: So now you made me go back and I got

470
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Speaker 3: to I had a little rough list, but now we

471
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Speaker 3: started talking about some things and so the offensive to you.

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Speaker 1: But that's my contribution PPU free of charge.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the look the offensive tackle thing. Yeah, that's that's

474
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Speaker 3: interesting because the names on the list. Let's just give

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Speaker 3: you some of the names, Penna Sewel, Tristan Wurf's, Andrew

476
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Speaker 3: Thomas Slater, Darrishaw and so Derisol. So if you think

477
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Speaker 3: about that, how many of those guys in traditional landscape,

478
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Speaker 3: if we're talking what every gentleman say, Oh, I gotta

479
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Speaker 3: have him, We got to build it around him. This

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Speaker 3: makes you go back and think, like, what could we

481
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Speaker 3: do it without a guy like that?

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Speaker 1: I love them and I love them. I love all

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Speaker 1: those players the way they've played and what they've brought.

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Speaker 1: And I trust me, you want to have a good

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Speaker 1: left tackle, I just think I don't know that the

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Speaker 1: the You know, if you go from a great left

487
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Speaker 1: tackle to a solid left tackle, is that worthy?

488
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Speaker 2: Is that big deal?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So anyways, interesting, interesting conversation. It's going to lead

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Speaker 1: to this next thing, and then we'll take a break

491
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Speaker 1: and come back and knock out this corner draft. I

492
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Speaker 1: was looking at this the other day talking to a buddy,

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Speaker 1: one of our mutual friends. We're talking pass rush and

494
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Speaker 1: we're talking about how teams can be successful you always

495
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Speaker 1: talk about there's more than one way to get to

496
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Speaker 1: the finish line. Teams can be successful doing it differently.

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Speaker 1: And he brought up a great point. He said, look

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Speaker 1: in the NFC East and two of the best pass

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Speaker 1: rush groups, if you look at it, So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: pull up the numbers series we can look at it.

501
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Speaker 1: So if you're looking at how they rush, you can

502
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Speaker 1: go to PFF and there's a cool way to pull

503
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Speaker 1: up some of these stats you can look at. But

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Speaker 1: this one is about stunt percentage. So how many games,

505
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Speaker 1: like what percent of the time are you running games?

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Speaker 1: And you're not just a straight rush, right, And if

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Speaker 1: you look at it, the team that did it the

508
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Speaker 1: most last year was Harry was pull it up here

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Speaker 1: one second past stunt percentage. So the team that did

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Speaker 1: it the most was the Dallas Cowboys forty two point

511
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Speaker 1: nine percent. And when you watch the tape you'll see it. They're,

512
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Speaker 1: you know, teet games all over the place. They're running

513
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Speaker 1: all kinds of loops and stunts and really trying to

514
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Speaker 1: challenge your communication, utilizing the athleticism that they possess. Forty

515
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Speaker 1: two point nine percent. The team that's second, ironically is

516
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Speaker 1: the Niners thirty three percent. So that's the very top.

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Speaker 1: Those are teams that are running games running stunts more

518
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Speaker 1: than anybody else in the league. And then you look

519
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Speaker 1: down here at the bottom, the two teams that did

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Speaker 1: it the least the Philadelphia Eagles. So you got the

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Speaker 1: Eagles Cowboys, same division. The Phildelphiagles only ran stunts on

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Speaker 1: fourteen point two percent of their pass rushes. The team

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Speaker 1: that was right next to them, the Kansas City Chiefs,

524
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Speaker 1: was seventeen point seven. So you look at that buck

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Speaker 1: and you pull it up and you're like, well, wait

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Speaker 1: a second, Like if we're talking about the great pass

527
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Speaker 1: rush teams and I look at let's look at the sacks.

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Speaker 1: Then on top of that, so if you stunt percentage,

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Speaker 1: you've got Dallas and San Francisco who do it the most.

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Speaker 1: Two great pass rushes, Philly and case do it the least.

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Speaker 1: Two great pass rushes in sacks. Philly was first, Casey

532
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Speaker 1: was second, Dallas was third, in San Francisco was seventh.

533
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Speaker 1: So it's fascinating me because we say, like, oh, it's

534
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Speaker 1: a copycat league, what do you do? Like these are

535
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Speaker 1: the two extremes, the ones who are doing at the

536
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Speaker 1: most are doing great. The ones who are doing at

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Speaker 1: the least are doing great. So it's fascinating to me

538
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Speaker 1: the different approaches to it. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: that I went and watched all the sacks I was

540
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Speaker 1: curious on, you know, with the games that they were running,

541
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Speaker 1: how it worked. And if you look at and we

542
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Speaker 1: were just talking about building blocks, you look at Micah

543
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Speaker 1: Parsons and if you look at Bosa, both of them

544
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Speaker 1: are great on games. They're great on you know, run,

545
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Speaker 1: you can loop them, and they're they're so athletic, they're

546
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Speaker 1: good at it. Their best rush is when you watch

547
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Speaker 1: the tape is when they're running they're running two and

548
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Speaker 1: three man games on the other side and they leave

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Speaker 1: them one on.

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Speaker 2: One on one.

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Speaker 1: So it's almost a mixture, right, So it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't need to I don't need to, I don't

553
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Speaker 1: need to fluff it up with this guy. Just let

554
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Speaker 1: him go. You just let just win the other guys.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like kind of like a magician, like look

556
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Speaker 1: over here, look over here. And then all of a sudden,

557
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Speaker 1: I got you on the other side. Fascinating, and then

558
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Speaker 1: they're more those teams more, you know, really really athletic

559
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Speaker 1: using speed. Then when you look at the Chiefs and

560
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Speaker 1: the Eagles, who again first and second in the league

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Speaker 1: in sacks, and they run the least amount of stunts

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Speaker 1: in the league, their rushers incorporate more power, so they

563
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Speaker 1: kind of just crush. They crush dudes. We don't need

564
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Speaker 1: to be We're not trying to trick you. We're not

565
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Speaker 1: trying to challenge your communication. We're going to explode off

566
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Speaker 1: the ball and we're going to try and run through you.

567
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Speaker 1: And they do it better than anybody else in the league.

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Speaker 1: It's fascinating to me just the two different ways you

569
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Speaker 1: can do it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the teams at the bottom was Kansas City

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Speaker 3: and San Francisco are more straight.

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Speaker 1: The straight line teams were Philly and case So Philly

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Speaker 1: the lowest in the league, Casey the second lowest in

574
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Speaker 1: the league. And the teams at the top were Dallas

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Speaker 1: and San Francisco. And the fascinating thing to me is

576
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Speaker 1: San Francisco and Philly. Their coach tree is aligned, so

577
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Speaker 1: I thought they would be doing the same thing because

578
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Speaker 1: they both kind of come from that Jim Washburn tree.

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Speaker 1: But you don't. You've got San Francisco running all kinds

580
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Speaker 1: of games, and you got Philly running the least amount

581
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Speaker 1: of games in the league. So here's here's what stands

582
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Speaker 1: out to me.

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Speaker 3: There's some people like Steve Jobs used to always talk

584
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Speaker 3: about simplicity, the ultimate sophistication is that, and so dj

585
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Speaker 3: they talk about whatever it is that you do, be

586
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Speaker 3: great at it. And so what you're seeing those the

587
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Speaker 3: two respective parts of the spectrum their team that have

588
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Speaker 3: even committed to we're going to be the best stunting

589
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Speaker 3: game team in the league. We're gonna do it. This

590
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Speaker 3: is who we are. We're not going to live in

591
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Speaker 3: both worlds. This is what we do. So they've gone

592
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Speaker 3: all out and doing it. So I bet you their

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Speaker 3: practice structure is all about gaming.

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Speaker 1: True, that's true. I know that for a fact. I

595
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Speaker 1: know that for a fact. It's either all games.

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Speaker 3: Everything we're doing is about stunt looping and doing that stuff.

597
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Speaker 3: And then you have the Eagles and the Chiefs are saying,

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Speaker 3: oh no, this is.

599
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Speaker 1: A we whoop you. Our guys win one on one.

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Speaker 3: So then their practice stuff is power rush is one

601
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Speaker 3: on one drills, working hands to defeat one on one situations,

602
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Speaker 3: or double team blocks and the like, and what it

603
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Speaker 3: tells me is regardless of what your philosophy is, you

604
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Speaker 3: got to go all in on whatever it is that

605
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Speaker 3: you believe in. But you can't live in both worlds

606
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Speaker 3: because the teams in the middle end up being right

607
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Speaker 3: in the middle. And so if you're all in on

608
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Speaker 3: hey man, I believe we're athletic enough to game it.

609
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Speaker 3: Everything that we do is about gaming and stunts and movement.

610
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Speaker 3: The people that we bring in fit that world, and

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Speaker 3: so it makes sense. And that's a lot of clarity

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Speaker 3: that I get now when you look at it.

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Speaker 2: The top four teams.

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Speaker 1: Live two different worlds, but whatever it is, they're great.

615
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Speaker 2: At it, and so it works.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad. This is why I brought this up

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Speaker 1: because you provided clarity to me because I know when

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Speaker 1: you said that, I know for a fact, and talking

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Speaker 1: to some of the coaches that they said with like

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Speaker 1: with Dallas, their their their time and their indie group

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Speaker 1: work is all majority of the time spent on games

622
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Speaker 1: and timing and landmarks and and and really mastering games,

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Speaker 1: and they're darn good at it. The Eagles, I know

624
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Speaker 1: for a fact, they're they are working on get off,

625
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: they are working on hands, they are working on winning

626
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Speaker 1: one on one. And I think the way you said it,

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Speaker 1: you phrased it better than I could, because I loved

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Speaker 1: it that there you want to major in something. If

629
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Speaker 1: you're trying to major in everything, you major in nothing.

630
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Speaker 1: So be great at one. One side of the thing,

631
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Speaker 1: it's who cares your playbooks this big and say oh

632
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Speaker 1: we can do a little this, we can do a

633
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Speaker 1: little that this that. Like those aren't the great teams

634
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Speaker 1: that they they do their thing better than everybody else.

635
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Speaker 1: And that's why these two two approaches, opposite approaches both work.

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Speaker 3: You know, there there's something to that because these when

637
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Speaker 3: you go and you study all the great coaches from

638
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: yesteryear or whatever, like Vince Lombardi and I had this

639
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 3: my radio partner, Steve Hartman, he used to work with

640
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Speaker 3: SC and he talked about John McKay, the legendary USC coach,

641
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Speaker 3: and Vince Lombardi used to have these contests to see

642
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Speaker 3: who could have the smallest playbook right, And so at

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Speaker 3: one point, like I think the Packers had six or

644
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Speaker 3: eight plays and same thing for SC. Who's known for

645
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Speaker 3: student body right, and then the Packers known for the

646
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Speaker 3: Packers sweep And.

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Speaker 1: What happens is DJ. Look, man, this is what we do.

648
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Speaker 3: But the only way to get good at it you

649
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: have to be really detailed in what you're doing. And

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Speaker 3: the only way to be detailed is you got to

651
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: rep it over and over and over again. And so

652
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: when you talk we talked about those teams and they're

653
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: two different philosophies.

654
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: The time on tasks.

655
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: If we're gonna be a good stunt team, we got

656
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: to allocate enough time to the task so we can

657
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: be good at it. Same thing when it comes to

658
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: the Power Russians, it seems like those teams have figured

659
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: out who they are and they're comfortable living in the

660
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: world that they live in.

661
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: How would how would this translate? And you do it

662
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: and coaching at the high school level, but I'm curious

663
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: what your thoughts are at the NFL level.

664
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: Is there is there is there?

665
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about gap schemes, when we talk

666
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: about zone schemes with offensive line and your run game,

667
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: are you gonna be are you gonna be downhill power team?

668
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be bulls on parade? You know, getting

669
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: to the perimeter and run an outside zone which a

670
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: lot of teams live off of. Are you better off

671
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: kind of majoring in one of those versus having a

672
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,239
Speaker 1: diverse rushing attack where we do a little bit of

673
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: you know everything, You're better off majoring in my submission,

674
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: you better off majoring is almost one of the reasons

675
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: why back in the old days when Mike Shanahan and

676
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: Alas Giz were together and it was his own system,

677
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: and you know.

678
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: Going in you're gonna deal with inside and really outside zone.

679
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: But because this is what they do, they live and

680
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: breathe it.

681
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: They've been doing it from the beginning of OTAs all

682
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: the way through the season.

683
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: The reps, the reps, there's a there's a quote that

684
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: I use with my team. It's a oh Bruce Lee quote.

685
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I get it right.

686
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: Bruce Lee says, I fear not the man who has

687
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: done ten thousand kicks one time. I fear the man

688
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: who's done one kick ten thousand times. And so DJ

689
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: that's what that's what they're talking about. They're talking about

690
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: the mastery of.

691
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: What it is that we do.

692
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: I don't care if you you can know what's coming,

693
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: but we do it so much that there's no way

694
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: you can prepare for what you're going to face.

695
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: Because we live it, you don't.

696
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: Live in Yeah, well, I think it's great. And your

697
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: your high school team's another testament to that. You guys

698
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: committed yourself to run in the rock and you did

699
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: it as well as anybody, and you guys had a

700
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: ton of success. And I'm sure, I'm sure there was

701
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: a large percentage of snaps where the dudes on the

702
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: other side of the ball knew exactly what was coming.

703
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: You can't do anything about it.

704
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: You only run like three or four plays and saying.

705
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: You are who you are, you are who you are,

706
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: you it, you master it, and then you live with it.

707
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: So I don't know, no, but this is, man, this

708
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: is fascinating, like the stunts and games and that stuff

709
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: in terms of like, hey man, we're just gonna get

710
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: good at We're just gonna.

711
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna do it over and over. But the thing

712
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: that you said, it's like isolation basketball.

713
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: Right.

714
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: I used to love back in the day when the

715
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: Utah Jazz wud run pick and rolled on one side

716
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: but then post somebody up on the other side and

717
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: do that stuff.

718
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: They're giving you all that hocus pocus on the right.

719
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: And then Michael Parson's is hitting you on the ma

720
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: in the mouth from the left, Like that's cool. We

721
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: got to talk about all these three man games, but

722
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: dog get Michael Parsons just had a one on one

723
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: and just ran Scott Free.

724
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

725
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: No, it's so true, man, it is. I mean, that's

726
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: like when you look at those two teams and look

727
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: at the sacks, the thing that jump, when you're like, whoa,

728
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: I look at from the offensive side, go oh man,

729
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: that's a nightmare. The nightmare is when they do all

730
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: that fluff one side and they free up the stud

731
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: to go go to work on the other. And that's

732
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: what those teams have done. So again, two different approaches,

733
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: but at times it can look similar because they're they're

734
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: finding ways to isolate those guys, their best rushers and

735
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: let them get to work. Anyways, that was a fun,

736
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: fun chat there. Let's take a quick break. We're gonna

737
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: come back and knock out this corner draft right after this.

738
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: All right, Buck, let's get it going here. Let's go corners.

739
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: I believe I'm up first. Not not gonna spend any

740
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: time going into this one because I think we're both

741
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: on the same page here. Even though he's a young

742
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: player going into year number two, I got the first pick.

743
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm going Sauce Gardener from the Jets. I can. I

744
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: can feel comfortable leave them out there, don't worry about it.

745
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: You want to play, You want to get up in

746
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: their face, play physical. He can do that at the

747
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. He can carry verticals with his speed.

748
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: He can find and play the ball. He's more than

749
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: a willing tackler. And I love the preparation he puts

750
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: into it as well. You get all the off the

751
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: field stuff dialed in as well. So to me, it's

752
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: really a no brainer. I'm gonna take Sauce Gardener with

753
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: the first pick.

754
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 3: Man, how rare is it for a guy to be

755
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: a rooky player to come into the league and rank

756
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: as the best cornerback in the league.

757
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: He is everything that everyone talked about.

758
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: I think he's exceeded everybody's expectations immediately, size, athleticism, strength,

759
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: but the DJ the part that you talked about, the preparation.

760
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: When you met him, you talked to him. He was

761
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 3: serious about his craft and is one of the reasons

762
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: why he's played really, really good well from the first

763
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: time he stepped into the league. This is interesting DJ

764
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: because I'm gonna go with Yarriy Alexander from the Green

765
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: Bay Packers here in this pick. And the reason why

766
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: I like Yarry Alexander is because his ability to lock

767
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: up and play man to man is essential. But also

768
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: under Joe Barry, he now has the opportunity to play

769
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: more zone, more eyes on the ball that lends itself

770
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: to put his hands on the ball, more vision on

771
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: the ball, see the breaks, get interceptions, and do those things.

772
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: This is the year where everyone is going to talk

773
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: about the loss of Aaron Rodgers. But I think at

774
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: the end of the year, what we're talking about the

775
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: emergence of the Packers defense. More pressures on them to

776
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: be able to keep the score down. I think they

777
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: kind of respond and part of that cause alasdais play

778
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: on the perimeter.

779
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

780
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: No, he's a stun big fan of his game. I remember

781
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: him coming out how just how twitched up and fluid,

782
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: explosive he was, come out of college and translated immediately

783
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: to the Packers. Been a great player. Okay, I've got

784
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: a couple different areas that I can go here. Might

785
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: surprise you on this one, because there are some other

786
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: good ones out there. But I'm gonna go pastser Tan

787
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: the second here, just in terms of the size and physicality.

788
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: I feel like the things I said about Sauce Gardner,

789
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: you get a lot of those same things with him.

790
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: You know, Look, this is a Denver team to not

791
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: play great last year. I think this is a year

792
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: where there's some renewed energy there with Sean Payton. He

793
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: is the building block to me of this defense. Get

794
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: him out there, get him healthy for seventeen games, and

795
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: I think he'll firmly establish himself for one of the

796
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: premier players at his position. He can do everything. I

797
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: love the size, I love the physicality that he possesses.

798
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: So a couple of different areas I could have gone,

799
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go with the Denver Bronco.

800
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny, DJ, did you talk about that

801
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: because I'm sitting here talking about Pastor Tan, And you know,

802
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: it's funny because we had the these conversations leading to

803
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: the draft, and then certain has been exactly what everyone

804
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: hoped that he could be in terms of lockdown corner

805
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: that can play variety of tools in the toolbox, and

806
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: so he certainly is deserving of being in that conversation. So, now, DJ,

807
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: here's where we're at because we're we're an interesting place

808
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 3: in terms of we can talk about the young guys

809
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: or we can talk about the old guys. And so

810
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: the guy who has always been celebrated as the top

811
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: corner for the last five years has been Jayleen Ramsey.

812
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take Jalen Ramsey in this at this spot,

813
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna do it with an asterisk.

814
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: The one thing about.

815
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: Jalen I would say his last year was not his

816
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: best year, and I think we're right at that point

817
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: where you begin to wonder is his play going to

818
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: drop off?

819
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 2: Now, maybe that was boredom.

820
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: Maybe because the team wasn't as good, he wasn't as

821
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 3: locked in. I think we see a different Jayalen Ramsey.

822
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see the better version of him this year.

823
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: I'm confident on that.

824
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: In mind, he was a little bit interested.

825
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: He was, I mean, it can't help but be I

826
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: mean with the way that season.

827
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: Went, yeah, he was a little checked out, and so

828
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: I think we'll see a better version. Also, Vic Fangio

829
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: might be able to do some things that will keep

830
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 3: him engaged, moving him around and doing stuff So Jaylen

831
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: Ramsey right now will be my second pick, taking him

832
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: into this Well.

833
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: You framed it. I mean, you talk about the difference

834
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: between the young guys and then the guys who have

835
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: done it and have a long track record. And I've

836
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: got two young guys already in the fold. So with

837
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: my third pick, I'm gonna get the veteran. I'm gonna

838
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: go with Darius Slay, Who's just the consistency with him

839
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: is what stands out. You know what you're getting each

840
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: and every year he lines up. He's competitive, he posts,

841
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: he's out there to play.

842
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: To me.

843
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: To me, he's kind of the consummate professional. I think

844
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: he's good for the room as well. So to me,

845
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with big play Sleigh

846
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: here with my third pick.

847
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 2: Okay, it's funny that you talk about big plays.

848
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: And one of the reasons I'm gonna go with this

849
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: guy is because he is a big play maker.

850
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: Now, some would say he gives.

851
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: It away, so he could be a bit of a

852
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: double agent.

853
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: But let's go ahead.

854
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: Tryon Diggs from the Dallas Cowboys. A couple of years ago,

855
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: we saw the interception numbers were ridiculous. They were through

856
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: the roof. But when you're drawing up a cornerback, you

857
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: want them along. You want them with good ball skills,

858
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,959
Speaker 3: envision and instincts. And he was more consistent last year,

859
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 3: not as productive, but Trevon Diggs is on his way

860
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 3: to being an outstanding quarterback in his league. He's already

861
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: flashed and shown it. We just want to see more

862
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 3: consistency from him.

863
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, at the end of the day,

864
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: the way the game's played right now, you want to

865
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: take the football away. So you know, he gives up

866
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: some plays, but man, if you're giving us some extra

867
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: possessions as well, you know, I think you live with that.

868
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: With the way the game's played right now, it's kind

869
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: of the college game leaking into the NFL game, all right.

870
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: I've tempted to go a couple different directions here with

871
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: this next one. I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot, I'm just

872
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: gonna go with Latimore. I'm gonna with Marshawn Latimore. It's

873
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: a couple different places I thought about going. But again,

874
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: a long track record, I think this is a Saints

875
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: team a lot of expectations this year. I think he

876
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: has a big year for them. You can still match

877
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: him up. He can play size, he can play against

878
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: the smaller, quicker guys. He's got a complete skill set.

879
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: He's been one of the best corners for quite some

880
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: time now. So I'll go with him.

881
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's a fantastic player. He certainly has

882
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 3: all the traits and tools that you look for on

883
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: the perimeter, and you're right when he's locked in and

884
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: loaded and healthy, he plays at a phenomenal level level.

885
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: And so I understand him being there. How about we

886
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: go with somebody.

887
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 3: From that division who has been solid but maybe got

888
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: lost a little bit last season. That's Aj Terrell from

889
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcon.

890
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: That was my choice. That was that was my struggle,

891
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: was those two guys, picking which one you want. I

892
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: don't think there's a wrong choice.

893
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

894
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 3: So with Ajterrel, I mean you talk about someone who

895
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: has been fantastic. He can go on the edge and

896
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: play man a man and be left alone. He can

897
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: play zone. He has all those scenes coming out of Clemson.

898
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: You know, we felt like maybe he came off the

899
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: board a little soon, But man, give the Falcons credit

900
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 3: because they know exactly what they have in him. And

901
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: he has played at a level that is worthy of

902
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: getting All Star consideration.

903
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

904
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: No, those two players I think travel together. You know,

905
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: I could have on either way there, all right, still

906
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: some really intriguing names that I'm left with here. I

907
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: always like with my fifth pick, I always like to

908
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: kind of bet on somebody's maybe bending a little bit

909
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: more on the future with them, a young player that's emerging.

910
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna do it with the Kansas City Chief

911
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna go Trent McDuffie. Trim McDuffie just knows how

912
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: to play man. He is always always in position, incredibly

913
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: smart and instinctive. I think this is you know this,

914
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: we saw it last year what he can do. I

915
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: think you see a big jump this year again. You

916
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: want to play him inside He's excellent. You know you

917
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: need them to hold up on the outside. He can

918
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: do that as well. A very versatile player. So I'm

919
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: gonna go with McDuffie. Here is my young guy that

920
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm betting on here for the future.

921
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 2: Okay.

922
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: I like the fact that you're betting on a young guy.

923
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 3: I'm a bet on someone who has played at a

924
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 3: high level but has been very very quiet the last

925
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: year or two. How about Marlon Humphrey from the Baltimore Ravens.

926
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: And some of this is the system has changed that

927
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 3: he's playing. Yet you know, you think about what they

928
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: were doing previously underwing Martin deal More manned a man

929
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: more stuff. Uh, Mike mc'donald comes over and kind of

930
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: changes what they do in the secondary. I still like Humphrey,

931
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 3: not only because he can play outside, but he's shown

932
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 3: the ability to play inside. As the Baltimore Ravens played better,

933
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: will have an opportunity to see Marlond Humphrey have more opportunities.

934
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: I think that reignites the conversation about him being one

935
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: of the best at his position.

936
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a big fan of his as well, but

937
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: doing it for a long time. Remember the knock on

938
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: him coming out was couldn't find you know, couldn't.

939
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: Play the ball.

940
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: He was always in a great position, he couldn't play

941
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: the ball, and I always wondered, can you ever improve

942
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: on that? Well, he absolutely has. At the NFL level,

943
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna punch the ball out every time he gets

944
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: as well. He's master the peanut the peanut punch.

945
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: He got it.

946
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 3: He took it from peanut tillman. He's coming there. He's

947
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: learned how to knock the ball loose. More turnovers. We'll

948
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: get more of that conversation about Marlon Humphrey. Yep, no doubt.

949
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 3: All right, that was a fun one. There's your there's

950
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: your corner draft. We have one left. I believe we

951
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: got safeties.

952
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to that next week. Uh buck. I

953
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: did get some comments. People enjoyed the fishing story. By

954
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: the way. I thought I might be in some heat,

955
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: thought I might be in some heat there with organizations,

956
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: But so far nobody showed up yet. I don't you know,

957
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: I'm in the clear. I'm in the clear. That's far

958
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: I have. I have sent an open invitation to it.

959
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: I did find a friend that had lunch with the

960
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: other day that I found out, uh is him and

961
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: his son fish, And I said.

962
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 2: You can eat them.

963
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: You go ahead. They are all yours. You can you

964
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: can catch them, you can cook them. They're all yours.

965
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let he's gonna take care of the rest.

966
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: I think the bass is still thanking you for your

967
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: appetizer the other day that you served up aladder.

968
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: They were pretty little fish too, man. They were beautiful

969
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: COI and I had I had one. I just say

970
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: the video, I have one goldfish in there. It's actually

971
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: the biggest goldfish I've ever seen. That's a big old goldfish.

972
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: And so he's my colorful fish in there. I'm like, buddy,

973
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: you got to play some defense. Help my guys out here.

974
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: I dropped some coy in there, trying to provide some

975
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: some more. He did this pond and you didn't look,

976
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: you didn't look out for him. Just let the basses

977
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: go right to work.

978
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just let them have their way.

979
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: Disappointed little coy man. By the way, I'm telling you, you

980
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: want to see sticker, you know what, anything about If

981
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: you know anything about fish, go look online for like

982
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: big coy and see what those things cost. Oh, in

983
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: the right mind is paying that much money for a

984
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: fish world?

985
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 3: I don't know, but they say you live long if

986
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: you have fish in you know, really, Yeah, if you

987
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 3: have aquariums something about like them?

988
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, tranquility there, huh. I guess he brought me my piece.

989
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: I can pay you that much, all right, that's gonna

990
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: do it for us, And I hope you guys have

991
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: enjoyed it.

992
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: Again.

993
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: Be on the lookout for Bucki's piece that's gonna be

994
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: nfl dot com sash Bucket Brooks. You can find that

995
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: on Friday for building blocks players you can build around,

996
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: so be on the lookout for that. We will see

997
00:42:50,800 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: you next time right here on move the sticks of