WEBVTT - TechStuff In Spaaace(X) - Part Two

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with text Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff Works dot com. Payson and welcome to text Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren. And when laugh we left,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about SpaceX and we had gotten up

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<v Speaker 1>to the year two thousand and nine, at which point

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<v Speaker 1>SpaceX had successfully launched the Falcon one once in a

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<v Speaker 1>test and wants to take a Malaysian satellite up. And

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<v Speaker 1>with these resounding successes said, you know, let's retire that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I spilled something bigger, bigger and better. Yes, we can

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<v Speaker 1>make it bigger, faster, stronger. So two thousand and ten

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<v Speaker 1>they launched a successful test of a Falcon nine rocket.

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<v Speaker 1>It's eight better than the Falcon one. You might ask, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why did they go from one to nine like what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to Falcons two through eight. Well, the nine doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>refer to the version, No, it refers to how many

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<v Speaker 1>engines are in the first stage of the rocket. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it has nine Merlin engines in that first stage. It

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<v Speaker 1>is also a two stage rocket. Yes, so like the

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<v Speaker 1>Falcon one, it's a two stage rocket, but unlike the

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<v Speaker 1>Falcon one, it had nine engines instead of just one engine. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>still was a liquid liquid fuel engine liquid oxygen and

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<v Speaker 1>kerosene specifically, and used aluminum aluminum lithium alloy tanks. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>according to SpaceX, the nine engines provide more thrust than

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<v Speaker 1>five seven forty seven's at full power. Now I should

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<v Speaker 1>stress that's the current Falcon nine because over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of the last few years. Yeah, the Falcon nine has

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<v Speaker 1>gotten pardon the pun, a bit of a boost over

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<v Speaker 1>the last Okay, I'm sorry, I regret everything I've said,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but but it is, it has improved over

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<v Speaker 1>the years as they've worked on it. So the the

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<v Speaker 1>figures we have for the Falcon nine really reflect the

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<v Speaker 1>most recent version of the rocket, not the original, not

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<v Speaker 1>this original one from yes Um. And the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>has those nine engines in there is to provide redundancy,

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<v Speaker 1>that way of the that the rocket can continue even

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<v Speaker 1>if two of its engines shut down entirely during the process. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So they've had issues where they I mean they've actually

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<v Speaker 1>tested it where they would shut down an engine on

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<v Speaker 1>purpose and then fire it back up to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that in fact the rocket would be able to continue

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<v Speaker 1>and deliver its payload into orbits. So this was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>something that was built into the design. Also, what's really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool is that, uh, the the stages stage

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<v Speaker 1>one and stage two, they are separated by a different

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<v Speaker 1>method than the way you would find in um in

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<v Speaker 1>in previous versions of launch vehicles. Now, normally a launch

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle the two stages would be connected with explosive bolts

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<v Speaker 1>and you would blow the bolts and then stage one

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<v Speaker 1>would fall away, in stage two would ignite and continue

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<v Speaker 1>to go up into orbit. But since they were hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to create a rocket system that can be used multiple time,

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<v Speaker 1>like the whole shebang, not just the shuttle bit, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they decided to go with something else. They went with

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<v Speaker 1>using air pressure. They essentially had like pneumatic bolts that

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<v Speaker 1>would blast off with a little little blast of compressed air.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't explosive in the sense of like an

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<v Speaker 1>actual explosive device. It would separate more um less violently.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say, yeah, gently is good because this soothing easing

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<v Speaker 1>blast from high in earth. Yeah. Really, it was mostly

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<v Speaker 1>to to make sure that things would remain safe for

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<v Speaker 1>once the falcon would start to carry people, not just

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<v Speaker 1>not just stuff. Stuff is replaceable. People are not to know.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the if everything is working properly when the

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<v Speaker 1>engines a night, Uh, they will burn for three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>in that first stage and uh interesting facts. So at

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<v Speaker 1>sea level, the Falcon engines engines provide and again this

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<v Speaker 1>is current. Falcon nines provide one point three million pounds

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<v Speaker 1>of thrust, which is five thousand, eight hundred five kilo newtonts.

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<v Speaker 1>But rocket thrust increases as altitude increases, so they just

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<v Speaker 1>get more powerful as they go further up in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>So once they get to space, the engines are putting

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<v Speaker 1>out one point five million pounds of thrust or six thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>six d seventy two kilo mutants, So that's pretty awesome. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>earlier rockets were slightly less powerful, but still significantly stronger

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<v Speaker 1>than the Falcon one, not a big surprise with all

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<v Speaker 1>the extra engines thrown in there. I'm just waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>them to have the Falcon eleven so turn it all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up to eleven um, which would make sense

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm pretty sure Tesla's vehicles have dials that go

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<v Speaker 1>all the way up to eleven I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>Musk is a fan of spinal test. So uh, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as the rockets mass decreases, which you would expect to

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<v Speaker 1>have happened. It's got fuel, it's burning fuel, so therefore

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to lose mass in the process of actually

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<v Speaker 1>launching into space. The Falcon nine engines gradually get throttled

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<v Speaker 1>back to compensate so that it keeps acceleration within the

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<v Speaker 1>right parameters, because obviously, if you have the engines blasting

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<v Speaker 1>at the same amount of thrust and the mass of

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<v Speaker 1>the thing it's thrusting up into space is decreasing, then

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<v Speaker 1>it would accelerate beyond what they had it they need.

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<v Speaker 1>So interesting that you have to actually think about throttling

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<v Speaker 1>back the engines as opposed to because you know, getting

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<v Speaker 1>stuff into space is hard. We talked about that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to think you would think that it would

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<v Speaker 1>be full, right, that's not the way it works. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool. Uh. Now, the second stage of the

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<v Speaker 1>rocket has a single Merlin vacuum engine, not a vacuum

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<v Speaker 1>cleaner engine. It's an engine that works in the vacuum

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<v Speaker 1>of space. So for being in space. Yes, yeah, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got this pneumatic stage separation that separates once. Once that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>the stage one starts to fall away. Stage two kicks

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<v Speaker 1>in that one Merlin engine kicks in and provides a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred eight thousand pounds of force or a hundred one

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<v Speaker 1>killing Newton's so, you know, relatively modest compared to the

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<v Speaker 1>actual stage one rocket, which makes sense because that was

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<v Speaker 1>again nine engines versus one. Uh. And that one burns

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<v Speaker 1>for three hundred seventy five seconds, which is six minutes

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen seconds for those who want to break it down

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Uh, and then it will get into its orbit,

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<v Speaker 1>so the second stage engine can actually stop and start

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times, which allows the Falcon nine to place different

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<v Speaker 1>payloads into different orbits. You group the payloads together so

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<v Speaker 1>if you have satellites that need to go into a

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<v Speaker 1>certain orbit, you can release them and then continue the

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<v Speaker 1>spacecraft further out to deliver more payloads and higher orbits. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this this allows you know, everyone involved to save a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money because the actual launch is what's expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Once once you're up there, it's kind of like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just just toss everything around wherever it needs to get right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who's here for lower th orbit? All right out you go. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things where, uh, it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>a viable business to work with these other companies we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in our first episode where we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how you know, a company might have a satellite

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to put into orbit, and another company may

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<v Speaker 1>have a similar satellite that also needs to go in orbit,

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<v Speaker 1>it's maybe a slightly different elevation. This would allow SpaceX

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<v Speaker 1>to have the opportunity to launch both in the same

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<v Speaker 1>mission and thus you you can serve and you end

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<v Speaker 1>up making the whole endeavor less expensive for all individual parties.

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<v Speaker 1>So pretty pretty savvy move on the business side. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool stuff. Now beyond all that, also in two,

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<v Speaker 1>SpaceX would land a contract with a satellite operator called

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<v Speaker 1>a Ridium for four hundred ninety two million dollars, as

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<v Speaker 1>was the largest commercial space launch deal ever up to

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<v Speaker 1>that time. And in the second test of the Falcon nine,

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<v Speaker 1>SpaceX becomes the first private company to launch of spacecraft

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<v Speaker 1>into orbit and then recover it after it orbits the Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is again pretty it's it's a pretty big yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Another step on that on that plan. On the back

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<v Speaker 1>of all of this this wonder and amazement, Musk would

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<v Speaker 1>make the only a little bit far reaching claim that

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<v Speaker 1>he would be sending astronauts into space within three years

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<v Speaker 1>at only twenty million dollars a piece. Yeah, that's um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's compared to uh previous missions. Sure, and spoiler alert,

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<v Speaker 1>that did not happen. No, it would take a little

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<v Speaker 1>longer than three years because we still haven't sent anyone

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<v Speaker 1>up into space. No humans have gone into space on

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<v Speaker 1>a SpaceX vehicle yet. So if you're waiting to hear

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<v Speaker 1>that magical fairy tale story, we don't have that. If

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<v Speaker 1>it happened while we were recording, that's different, but as

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<v Speaker 1>of the recording, it has not yet happened. Now, moving

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<v Speaker 1>on to two thousand eleven, we have a groundbreaking ceremony

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<v Speaker 1>for the Vandenburg Air Force Base space launch complex that

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<v Speaker 1>SpaceX would use. Uh. Now, at that point, SpaceX was

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<v Speaker 1>valued at about one point three billion dollars, pretty impressive

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<v Speaker 1>considering that it only had had started back in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand two. Yeah. Yeah, And and this Air Force space

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<v Speaker 1>that they were celebrating was not for them alone, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a government facility exactly. It's it's essentially they're saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do you mind if we use your your playground to

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<v Speaker 1>launch our our our rockets and air forces. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can work up a deal, and that's exactly we

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<v Speaker 1>can work that out. Um. Meanwhile, over at NASA, the

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<v Speaker 1>Shuttle program was officially shut down in eleven after the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlantis Is final flight, which returned to the Kennedy Space

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<v Speaker 1>Center on July one. This means, among other things, that

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<v Speaker 1>the amazing infrastructure that is the Kennedy Space Center and

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<v Speaker 1>its launch pads would be rendered idle um at a

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<v Speaker 1>cost of like some a hundred thousand dollars per month

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<v Speaker 1>in maintenance. I don't think that's offset by tourists like

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<v Speaker 1>me going to look around at the Kennedy Space Center.

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<v Speaker 1>Not quite no, um. So you know, in turn, that

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<v Speaker 1>means that you can bet NASA was pretty eager to

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<v Speaker 1>start looking at at ways to recoup that and start

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<v Speaker 1>renting out those launch pads to private companies. Yes, so

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<v Speaker 1>that will become more important a little later on. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand twelve, in May, SpaceX would launch a

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<v Speaker 1>successful mission to have its Dragon spaceship dock with the

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<v Speaker 1>International Space Station. So the Dragon spaceship is like a capsule.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at it, it kind of is reminiscent

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<v Speaker 1>of something like one of the Apollo capsules. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in that same sort of general shape. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not carrying any cargo on this first test. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And there it doesn't have any people aborted on the

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<v Speaker 1>first test, but it was successful in docking with the

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<v Speaker 1>I s sh yeah. Yeah, and the astronauts who are

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<v Speaker 1>already up there could open the docked capsule and go

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<v Speaker 1>right on inside, which is any brave. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you said there thinking. I mean, I'm sure they had

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<v Speaker 1>all the instrumentation to prove that in fact, it was

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly safe. But just think of this, This unmanned capsule

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<v Speaker 1>docks with the space station and it's you know, docks

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<v Speaker 1>to an airlock, and I can't imagine the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>tension I would feel opening the airlock for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time and not knowing for sure that everything on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side was still okay. I'm sure that they were

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<v Speaker 1>like tethered in, and I'm sure there are many safety

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<v Speaker 1>precautions taken. It's just interesting to be like, as are

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<v Speaker 1>a world apart from me. I'm too nervous to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do. Yeah, I get anxious, like going to

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<v Speaker 1>the grocery store. So let's talk about this Dragon spacecraft.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty cool. So it's designed to deliver people and

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<v Speaker 1>cargo to space, although again no people so far have

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<v Speaker 1>gone anywhere. Specifically, is designed to go to orbiting destinations

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<v Speaker 1>like the I S S or satellites, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>some longer mission to say the Moon or Mars. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not meant for that. About how much stuff can it hold?

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<v Speaker 1>It can hold eighty three cube feet of cargo, which

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty five cube meters on at least on the

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<v Speaker 1>way up. And it has a mass of six thousand kilograms,

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<v Speaker 1>which means it weighs thirteen thousand, two hundred twenty eight pounds. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the return payload when it comes back to Earth is

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand krams or six thousand, six d fourteen pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>and the return payload volume for the Dragon spacecraft is

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<v Speaker 1>three eight cube feet or eleven cube meters. And you

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<v Speaker 1>might say, well, why why is the difference? Where where's

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<v Speaker 1>the difference with the volume when it goes up versus

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<v Speaker 1>the volume when it comes down. And so part of

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<v Speaker 1>the capsule when it's going up is a connector that

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<v Speaker 1>connects the capsule to the launch vehicle right and in

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<v Speaker 1>that in that area you have an unpressurized chamber, and

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<v Speaker 1>inside the unpressurized chamber. You can have certain types of

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<v Speaker 1>cargo stuff that does not need to be protected in

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<v Speaker 1>that way. So let's say that you have some extra

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<v Speaker 1>satellites that you can just you know, throw in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the back of your truck. Essentially you go

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<v Speaker 1>up into space. Well, when you get up into space,

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<v Speaker 1>the capsule, when it's going into re entry, will disconnect

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<v Speaker 1>from that connector that originally had it next to the

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<v Speaker 1>launch vehicle, and so the capsule itself will come down,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that you can't carry as much back down

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<v Speaker 1>as you could carry back up. Now, why would you

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<v Speaker 1>want to carry stuff down in the first place, But,

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<v Speaker 1>like we mentioned in the first episode, occasionally stuff aboard

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<v Speaker 1>the I s S needs to be repaired or maintained,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can't necessarily do all of that on the

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<v Speaker 1>station itself. Or maybe they want to send little bits

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<v Speaker 1>of scientific experiments back down to Earth, right, and in

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<v Speaker 1>that case you would need to have exactly so that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that would be used for. So the pressure I section,

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<v Speaker 1>which would be the one that would carry humans if

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<v Speaker 1>we ever sent any up in a Dragon Space capsule UH,

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<v Speaker 1>can also carry cargo and it has something called draco thrusters.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are these are thrusters. They're meant to provide uh,

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<v Speaker 1>propulsion and some maneuverability in space, developed by SpaceX. So

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<v Speaker 1>since it's the Dragon Capsule, of course it's the Draco thrusters.

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<v Speaker 1>There are eighteen of them spread across four pods, So

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<v Speaker 1>two of the pods have four thrusters, two of the

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<v Speaker 1>pods have five thrusters. Now, the thrusters provide all this

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<v Speaker 1>maneuverability whenever they're needing to to dock with the I

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<v Speaker 1>S S or whenever they're they're trying to reposition themselves

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<v Speaker 1>for re entry um and each individual thruster is capable

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<v Speaker 1>of creating nine pounds of thrust. Now, the Dragon also

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<v Speaker 1>has this unpressurized trunk that was talking about. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>part where it'll disconnect just as you start to go

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<v Speaker 1>into re entry. And uh that's also why you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to carry more stuff up than down. As I said before,

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<v Speaker 1>on May thirty one, the Dragon Capsule returned to Earth safely,

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<v Speaker 1>completing that first test mission of the capsule. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>the first private spacecraft to dock with the International Space Station.

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<v Speaker 1>So in August of two thousand eleven, SpaceX would send

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<v Speaker 1>a Dragon spacecraft up again to pick up return earned

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<v Speaker 1>cargo to bring back to Earth, and Elon must champion

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<v Speaker 1>the mission as a demonstration of America being able to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver cargo and to take cargo from the I S

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<v Speaker 1>S for the first time since the space Shuttle program

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<v Speaker 1>was shuttered. Now keep in mind that particular capsule had

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<v Speaker 1>not actually carried anything up to the station, It just

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<v Speaker 1>brought stuff back down. But in October the Dragon capsule

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<v Speaker 1>would be the first private spacecraft to complete a resupply

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<v Speaker 1>mission to the I S S. So by the end

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<v Speaker 1>of two thousand eleven, it had done it all. They

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<v Speaker 1>had done a successful test stalking, they had returned cargo

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<v Speaker 1>safely to Earth, and they brought stuff up supplies back

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<v Speaker 1>up to the I S S in order to support

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<v Speaker 1>all of this. Meanwhile, that McGregor, Texas testing facility that

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned in the first episode was running at eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>hours a day, six days a week. Wow, And you

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<v Speaker 1>know I have actually heard I didn't include this in

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<v Speaker 1>the notes, but recently we're recording this in in August

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<v Speaker 1>of two thousand fourteen, and very recently there have been

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<v Speaker 1>some news reports of former employees who are laid off. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This happened very recently at SpaceX, who have also laid

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<v Speaker 1>allegations that they were not allowed to take breaks that

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<v Speaker 1>they would have legally been um allowed to do, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they were not being paid sufficiently for overtime.

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<v Speaker 1>So whether or not any of that is true, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but that that that is an ongoing thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you hear something like this about these facilities

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<v Speaker 1>running these crazy amount of hours per day, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when I think McGregor only employs some two fifty

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<v Speaker 1>people today. I'm not sure what the employment rate was

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<v Speaker 1>back then, although I think that that's the that's just

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<v Speaker 1>about the working team that they that they hire out.

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<v Speaker 1>So SpaceX, Yeah, exactly, space X as a as a

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<v Speaker 1>full company as like three thousand employees. So it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things that that's an ongoing situation.

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<v Speaker 1>So we don't have a lot to report about that

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<v Speaker 1>particular issue. But you can imagine that there are people

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<v Speaker 1>who are working really, really hard and I hope it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out that they're being compensation. Okay, But also in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve, SpaceX would test something else called the grasshopper.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a vertical takeoff and landing vehicle. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's a rocket that can take off and land vertically.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the reason why they want to test this

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<v Speaker 1>other thing while the Falcon nine is working. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of testing a proof of concept that they could

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<v Speaker 1>build a rocket that they could launch up into wherever,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when it starts coming back down, they could

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<v Speaker 1>maneuver it so it could land safely upright exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>way it had taken off. It's got landing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's got struts essentially that act like landing gear.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason you would want that is if you

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<v Speaker 1>sent any one to someplace like Mars, it would allow

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<v Speaker 1>them to, you know, come back would be nice. We've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about a lot about Mars, both on this show

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<v Speaker 1>and on Our Sisters show Forward Thinking, and some plans

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<v Speaker 1>don't involve the return ticket. I I prefer the plans

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<v Speaker 1>that involved the return ticket. Everyone collective sanity. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even people who think it's exciting to go to Mars,

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<v Speaker 1>even if there's no way back. I'm not sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to feel the same way. It's a five

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<v Speaker 1>years on Mars or ten years or forty years or

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<v Speaker 1>forty minutes. Who knows. I mean, it might be like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I really underestimated how boring it is up here and

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<v Speaker 1>how deadly. So yeah, this would be a way of

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<v Speaker 1>creating a vehicle that could potentially visit a distant surface

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<v Speaker 1>and then take off again from it. Um. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>particular one is too, is just designed to be a test,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would hopefully be built into the Stage one

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<v Speaker 1>Falcon nine rockets, which would also make them reusable, uh

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<v Speaker 1>in the sense of being able to actually land them

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<v Speaker 1>so that you could recover them, and the actual reprocessing

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<v Speaker 1>phase would be much shorter than if it were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had to go out into the ocean and

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<v Speaker 1>retrieve it from you know, crashing in there. So now

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<v Speaker 1>we move up to two thousand thirteen, SpaceX announced a

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<v Speaker 1>plan to launch a satellite into geo stationary orbit, which

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<v Speaker 1>is different from low Earth orbit. Geo stationary orbit is

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<v Speaker 1>one in which an orbiting body holds the same position

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<v Speaker 1>in the sky relative to an observer on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that if you're standing on the ground for

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<v Speaker 1>a week, I mean, you know, I guess you're having

0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.600
<v Speaker 1>people bring you snacks, but and look up the the

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<v Speaker 1>satellite would be there the entire time and maintain its

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<v Speaker 1>relative position to you that whole time. Uh. And in

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<v Speaker 1>order to do that, you have to actually put that

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<v Speaker 1>out a little further than your low Earth orbit. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I should all clarify that geostationary orbits are a subset

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<v Speaker 1>of geosynchronous orbits. A geosynchronous orbit is one in which

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<v Speaker 1>an orbiting body will return to a given position along

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<v Speaker 1>its path after a given amount of time. So you

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<v Speaker 1>might say that you have a satellite that has kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a figure eight type orbit over the southeastern United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and then every three days the satellite is over the

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<v Speaker 1>same point of reference along that pathway. That's a that

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<v Speaker 1>one is a geosynchronous orbit. Geostationary is very specific and

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:12.200
<v Speaker 1>that it maintains that's that particular location. So we would

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<v Speaker 1>have like a geostationary satellite directly above Atlanta, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be an example. Um. But yeah, in order to get

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<v Speaker 1>it out there, you gotta get it pretty far out

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<v Speaker 1>into the orbit. It's it's your your your local ones

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<v Speaker 1>are much closer in uh. Yeah, lower orbit satellites might

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<v Speaker 1>be some one thousand, two hundred miles that's one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>nine kilometers out from Earth's surface. Uh, GEO stationary satellites

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<v Speaker 1>are something like twenty two thousand miles or thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand kilometers out. And just for perspective, because I don't

0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.520
<v Speaker 1>know about you guys, but but those ranges of numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>my brain starts to go, I don't have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what that means. I can't compare that to things that

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<v Speaker 1>means stuff to me. A thousand, two hundred miles is

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<v Speaker 1>something like driving from New York City to Miami. Great

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<v Speaker 1>road trip, Uh, it can be, it can pleasant through

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<v Speaker 1>certain parts shirt um and uh, two thousand miles, by contrast,

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<v Speaker 1>is like eighty percent of the circumference of the entire planet.

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<v Speaker 1>So a longer road trip is what you're saying, A

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<v Speaker 1>very much longer road trip than trip. Yes, you would

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<v Speaker 1>have to have a submarine or jet skis. Well, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>hold off on planning that trip. But yeah, So that

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<v Speaker 1>that same year, SpaceX would put in a bid to

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<v Speaker 1>lease one of the Katy Space Center's launch pads, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about this earlier. Yeah, they the Kennedy

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<v Speaker 1>Space Center finally opened up one of their launch pads

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine A to be specific, which is like the

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<v Speaker 1>historic Apollo Mission launch pad out to a private company,

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<v Speaker 1>and SpaceX put in one of the bids. The other

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<v Speaker 1>bidder was Blue Origin, which is Amazon founder. Jeff Bezos

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<v Speaker 1>is space Company. In this corner, we have Elon Musk

0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.399
<v Speaker 1>and in this corna Jeff Bezos. I love the thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've done episodes on both of these people, right,

0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 1>We've done We've done a Bezos episode, We've done a

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Musk episode, and they're both these very dynamic, wonderful personalities

0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:09.879
<v Speaker 1>that have these big dreams and all of this stuff.

0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:13.160
<v Speaker 1>So you know, will come out the winner either way.

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<v Speaker 1>But as it turns out, the story ends ends up

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<v Speaker 1>with with a single entity winning that bid, right. Well,

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that was actually part of the bidding war here. Well,

0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:24.399
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't really a bidding war as much as it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a general political and legal kerfuffle because Blue

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<v Speaker 1>Origin and Jeff Bezos were really aiming for this pad

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<v Speaker 1>being opened up to multi company use. They wanted, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>many people to be able to come in and use

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, and you know, under the argument that leasing

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<v Speaker 1>to a single company would put that company in basically

0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:50.399
<v Speaker 1>monopoly territory as far as space launches go. On the

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<v Speaker 1>other hand, SpaceX was really the only company that was

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<v Speaker 1>prepared to actually use a launch site like that. Even

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<v Speaker 1>Bloor Origin had never had a successful test at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>so SpaceX might be saying like, well, that's all well

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and good, but we're the ones doing stuff and if

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<v Speaker 1>it just lays dormant that it's not doing anyone any

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 1>good anyway. Yeah, and they would eventually win that bid

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<v Speaker 1>in December. Sadly, it was not the way I had

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.600
<v Speaker 1>proposed when we were talking about this before the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>where I said all all all disagreements among entrepreneurs should

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<v Speaker 1>be settled in the thunder Dome, as as our ancestors

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.879
<v Speaker 1>would have had it. Yes. Yes, in fact, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you bust a deal and you face the wheel, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's no way. That's a different part of the movie anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Two two thousand fourteen, So we're up to this year,

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<v Speaker 1>at least the year were recording this. For those of

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<v Speaker 1>you in the future who are listening to us, I

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 1>hope you found it quaint. But in May of two

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 1>thousand and fourteen, SpaceX would unveil the design for the

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<v Speaker 1>Dragon version to spacecraft, and we all thought it looked

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:56.680
<v Speaker 1>gorgeous because it is. It also has the crew capacity

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<v Speaker 1>for seven crew members. Yeah, it looks it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>Apple designed the interior of this thing. Right, if you

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<v Speaker 1>ever look at the controls, all right, if you get

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 1>a chance, go on Google image search and look at

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<v Speaker 1>what the Apollo spacecraft control panel looked like. It looks

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the Millennium Falcon. It's all these little

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:20.679
<v Speaker 1>switches and buttons and things like nothing. Nothing looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it would control a spacecraft in the sense of, you know,

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:28.240
<v Speaker 1>being able to manually take control of this thing. The

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<v Speaker 1>the one that was unveiled. The concepts at least for

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<v Speaker 1>the Dragon version two console look like it was designed

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<v Speaker 1>by Apple. You have these enormous flat panel displays, this

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>very elegant looking control scheme set up. It looks the

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 1>way you would think a science fiction spacecraft control would look.

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty pretty beautiful. Now, again, these are concepts, so

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 1>we wait to looks. But anyway, it will according to SpaceX,

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and it will be able to and propulsively almost anywhere

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>on Earth, so you don't have to worry about a

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<v Speaker 1>window opening up for you to be able to land

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>at a specific location. Yeah, that was one of those

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:13.160
<v Speaker 1>big limiting factors for the Shuttle program, right, like if

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>you missed that window, you had to wait until you

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<v Speaker 1>came back around around so um, which is important because

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>it's meant to be reusable. Yes, uh, you know, after

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 1>being processed and refueled, it can go right back into service. Yeah,

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of crazy. And it will have eight

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Super Draco engines built into the sidewalls. I just talked

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>over the fact that they're they're building these right into

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 1>the side walls of the spacecraft. Absolutely. Yeah. The idea

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>being that if there's a problem during launch, the Super

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Draco thrusters can actually allow the capsule to detach from

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:52.199
<v Speaker 1>the launch vehicle and potentially save the lives of the

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>astronauts inside. That would be, you know, amazing, would be

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.880
<v Speaker 1>a really important development in this kind of spacecraft. They

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:03.360
<v Speaker 1>can produce one twenty thou pounds of axial thrust uh

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and m. Also, the Super Draco have engine chambers that

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:10.719
<v Speaker 1>were created in a three D printer. It's the first

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 1>time that an actual working part of a space engine

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:17.679
<v Speaker 1>has been built by a three D printer, not a

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>not a prototype. That'sn't then that's normal, right, that's that's

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 1>part of the course. No, but the actual bits that

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>are going into this space. Yeah, it's kind of interesting

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 1>and amazing and one of those. And again it really

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>brings home the fact that three D printing is playing

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>a very large role in in multiple industries. So it's

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I was really blown away by that when I heard that,

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 1>I thought, surely they mean that they just printed the

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>prototype and tested it. No, these are the actual chambers themselves.

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 1>In July two thousand fourteen, SpaceX received approval from the

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Federal Aviation Administration with the f a A to build

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>a launch facility in Texas, which would be the first

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>purely commercial launch site. This is different from relying on

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>that Air Force facility the or leasing the launch pad

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.360
<v Speaker 1>at the Kennedy Space Center, and they're hoping to support

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>twelve launches per year. It's a pretty impressive site, all

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>you know. It's not huge. It's just seventy acres. It's

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>in a town called Boca Chica Beach, which is about

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty miles outside of the larger town slash area of

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Brownsville in Texas, near the Mexican border. The US Census

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>has identified this area as being the poorest in the

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 1>entire country. Six percent of its residents live below the

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.919
<v Speaker 1>poverty line. Um, the spaceport is going to be an

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 1>eighty five million dollar project, or is projected to be

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>so right now, which is gonna be bolstered by fifteen

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>point three million dollars in funds from to Texas organizations,

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>one being the Texas Enterprise Fund, which makes perfect sense,

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and the second being the Spaceport Trust Fund, which apparently exists.

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 1>So that's the thing, um and uh and yeah, local

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>government is pretty excited about the some three hundred jobs

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>at the construction is likely to create in the area,

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and the hundred fifty or so staff members that it's

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>likely to hire once it's complete. Also all the tourism

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that that it's going to bring hopefully,

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and then you also have to have the businesses just

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>to support the existence of this thing. Sure, sure, yeah,

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:13.399
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to build a lot more Starbucks or

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, which is that's great news for this town.

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, but the potential for some some real

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 1>rejuvenation of that town's economy is pretty exciting. Uh. And

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:27.120
<v Speaker 1>of course Texas and Elon Musk have a standing, if

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>slightly to multious relationship. You know, in addition to housing

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 1>that that testing facility. Texas was also one of the

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>first states to have Tesla charging stations um, although as

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>if this recording, it can't actually sell Tesla vehicles in

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>the state due to car sales laws that preserve dealerships

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>being the sole distributors of consumer vehicles. You can't have

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>a company sell directly to its customers. Um. And for

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>more on that, you can check out our two part

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>or the Tesla Tale, which published in March. And rumor

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>has it that Stay Governor Rick Perry is really trying

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to change this whole thing because it would be pretty

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>good for the economy of the state, many people argue,

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, the laws have not budged quite yet. And

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>also Texas is on that shortlist of states that may

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 1>eventually house Tesla's giga factory battery plant. Yeah, the one

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>that would be making the Just like Musk wants the

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>space industry to be something that the United States can

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>really focus in on internally, same thing for producing the

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>batteries that would go into electric vehicles and improving the

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>batteries and improving the working conditions around all of that. Yeah, yeah,

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>so important stuff. Yeah. The only confusing thing about this spaceport.

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>For me is that the announcement about it really only

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>came a couple of months after SpaceX signed that lease

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>for that Kennedy Space Center a launch pad, but that

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>was for a lot, like, you know, six months or

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>something twenty years. Who alright, so they're gonna have their

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>own space and they're leasing the other like dormant space.

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they are like kind of edge and everybody else out.

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm yeah, I'm not sure what's going

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 1>on there. I mean, you know, it's sub lease of Yeah, yeah,

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm figuring that maybe they're going to try to use

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>their own launchpad for for commercial purposes, for helping other

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>companies get into space using that infrastructure and maybe preserve

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the Kennedy area for their own stuff or maybe for

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>their NASA related trips or something like that. Yeah, that's

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>a possibility. Well, and and maybe it'll be one of

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>those things where certain types of launch vehicles will be

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>able to use their one facility and others might need

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>a larger one. For example that you know, there's we'll

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about the Falcon Heavy at the end of this episode,

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and that one makes the Falcon nine look like a

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>junior just as the Falcon nine dwarf, the Falcon one,

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the Falcon Heavy dwarfs, the Falcon nine right makes it

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>look like a paper airplane. Yeah, I mean, you gotta

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you gotta do this. You have to keep on making

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>larger and larger vehicles so that we can finally get

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>to start destroyer. I mean, we've all seen where this leads.

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Is that the reason scientifically. One of the other things

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that is kind of interesting about this and and this

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>is one of those things. I just came across this

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>while I was doing some research on SpaceX, and this

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>may or may not indicate anything in the in the future,

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>but we've also talked about the hyper loop, uh, this

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>concept of this enclosed train system that would be able

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to move it really super fast speeds. Apparently SpaceX is

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>now the company that owns hyperloop dot Com. At least

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>from what I was able to find. It used to

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>belong to someone else. That ownership has apparently transferred to

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>space X. I have not completely fact checked this, so

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>this could be wrong. But if that is possible, can

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you just imagine that the commute to go to work

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>at your space factory is on the hyper loop and

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>you live in some other town in Texas and you

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>just in like fifteen minutes there would be pretty incredible.

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I wonder, I wonder if company employees, if you know,

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>they actually could buy Tesla vehicles in the state of Texas, Uh,

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>if they would get like an employee discount on it.

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>It's funny because this description just makes us us think

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>that this, this very tiny town, this this town that's

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>been struggling with poverty, could transform into like a super

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>future tech place in a span of like a decade

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>or so, like the the center of the new space Age.

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty crazy. Well, meanwhile, to to kind of conclude

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>this conversation, there's some other things we have to talk about.

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>One of those is that SpaceX has run into some

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 1>political opposition, and there are a lot of different ways

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>of looking at this. But some politicians are claiming that

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the company should be accountable to taxpayers, which is a

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>little odd because it's a private company. It's not it's

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a contractor, it's not a government organization. And some folks

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>like fill the bad astronomer plate, have hypothesized that the

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>politicians are actually trying to protect interests in their home

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>states because the states involved happened to be the same

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:12.719
<v Speaker 1>states that have large manufacturing facilities owned and operated by

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>companies like Lockheed and Boeing. So when the representatives of

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>those states happen to be the ones who are raising objections,

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>it does raise questions about, Okay, well, where are your

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>objections coming from. Is it from just an honest place

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:31.719
<v Speaker 1>of concern or are you trying to protect a large

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>company that falls in your constituency. Yeah, so tough questions.

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>On top of that, the company SpaceX has actually sued

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the US government specifically over military contracts between the US

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Air Force and United Launch Alliance, that being the organization

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess that both Boeing and Lockheed belonged to in

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>order to preserve their own best commercial interests for space

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>technologies exactly, And so SpaceX as that those contracts were

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>awarded unfairly in the bidding process, was non competitive. In

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>other words, that the Air Force went ahead and stuck

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>with its longtime partner, United Launch Alliance rather than going

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>to the lowest bidder. Now, if those suspicions are true,

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>that would imply that the politicians are playing favorites and

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>potentially that the Air Force would be wasting money on

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:27.359
<v Speaker 1>another company with the expensive contracts that they could they

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>could be they could be doing the same thing for

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>less money. And since that money ultimately comes from the

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:35.439
<v Speaker 1>United States taxpayer, this is this should be a big

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>deal to citizens. And it's even more complicated than that though,

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>right because Russia and and the Russian technology companies come

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>back into it. That's right, because ULA ends up getting

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>some components from Russia, UH specifically from a company that

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 1>is largely owned by the Russian government. And as we

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>have relations between the United States and Russia become more

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>common implicated. The situation in the Ukraine obviously is an

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 1>example of that. Then you also have these these complications

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that arise their their concerns about UH security, their concerns

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>about fairness. It's it's all wrapped up into this big

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>political mess. Right. So again, another argument SpaceX makes is,

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>if you go with us, it's all in the United States,

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to worry about funding a government that

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:32.320
<v Speaker 1>you may have disagreements with, unless you're disagreeing with yourself,

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 1>in which case we really can't help you. Um, But

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>at any rate, it's messy, is what we're getting down to.

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 1>And then on the government side of the issue, right,

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 1>because it's certainly not one sided. Yeah, I mean you

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>have to look at all sides of the I always

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>try to look at all the sides of any given

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 1>issue and not just try to jump onto one or

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the other. So on the government side of things, you

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>have to understand, first of all, the politicians are citing

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that there are anomalies and SpaceX tests and launches so far,

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>which may or may not hold merit. It all really

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 1>depends upon your point of view, because space launches are

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>potentially really hazardous, so you don't want anomalies obviously. You

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>want it to be as predictable and rough replicatable as possible,

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>so that way replicable, but you want to make sure

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:20.359
<v Speaker 1>for that for the safety of the astronauts, right and

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the cargo, I mean everything, oh, Sharon, and just the

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>money that you've poured into it, exactly. So uh. On

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 1>the other hand, you know, space launches are also really complicated,

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and even companies that have been in the industry for decades,

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:37.319
<v Speaker 1>way longer than SpaceX can have anomalies. Yeah. Yeah, So

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>the question is are the anomalies that are the quote

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>unquote anomalies that are in these SpaceX launches, do they

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 1>fall inside that same sort of set of parameters as

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 1>what you would find in any other business exactly. So

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't have the answers to those questions. I don't

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>know really, Like this is not so simple as to

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 1>say SpaceX is right and the government is wrong, or

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 1>the governments and space X is wrong. It's there are

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of factors you have to take into consideration,

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 1>and frankly, I don't have all the information, so I

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 1>can't really come down on it. I hope that SpaceX

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>is able to to be really in the mix for

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>these competitive projects because I would love to see that.

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I think competition is always a good thing. Oh of course, yeah, no,

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>And and I think that the thing is that nobody

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>has that information right at this very moment. This is

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.240
<v Speaker 1>all very much ongoing and uh and but but hopefully

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>it'll come to a resolution for the best of all

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of us soon absolutely so, speaking of the future, since

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about soon, this is soon and not so soon.

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>But next year two thousand fifteen, SpaceX plans to do

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 1>a test launch of a super powerful rocket. This is

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the Falcon Heavy that we talked about earlier. This would

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>be the launch vehicle that would allow us to to

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 1>actually go to places like the moon or march with

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>people with people exactly now this one. You know, the

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.320
<v Speaker 1>first stage of the Falcon nine was a rocket that

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 1>had nine engines. The first stage of the Falcon Heavy

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<v Speaker 1>is made up of three Falcon nine engine corps for

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<v Speaker 1>a grand total of twenty seven Merlin engines, ye creating

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<v Speaker 1>nearly four million pounds of thrust seventeen thousand kilo news

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<v Speaker 1>and capable of launching a payload that would weigh fifty

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>three metric tons into orbit. The second stage of the

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Falcon Heavy launch vehicle same as the Falcon nine. So

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<v Speaker 1>once you get up there, Yeah, if you ever look

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<v Speaker 1>at pictures of what this is going to look like,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like a it looks essentially like a Falcon

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<v Speaker 1>nine rocket with two other Falcon nine stage ones strapped

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of it. And so it's really fat

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 1>on the bottom and skinny on the top because you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a regular Falcon nine stage two and the payload

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>at the top of it. Pretty amazing if they are

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<v Speaker 1>able to actually make this work, and it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a feat of engineering that I am so far out

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<v Speaker 1>of the comprehension of I would I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>see the first launch of this, right, I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to be present for the test launch of the Falcon Heavy.

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<v Speaker 1>I am sure it's going to be an awesome site,

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and I mean that in the classic sense. Yeah. Uh. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some rumors that have been around pretty much since

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<v Speaker 1>SpaceX started that the company will go public, but as

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<v Speaker 1>of this recording that has not yet happened. That doesn't

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 1>stop the rumors from going around. I mean they've been,

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<v Speaker 1>They've really picked up since two thousand thirteen. Musk says

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<v Speaker 1>that he has no near term plans to go public,

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:30.839
<v Speaker 1>and likely he would wait until SpaceX is Mars Colonial

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Transporter is in service. That would mean the actual vehicle

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:38.879
<v Speaker 1>that would be capable of taking people to Mars, whether

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>or not it would actually be people would probably be

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, unmanned missions at first. But I can see

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<v Speaker 1>where I mean, you know, Musk is such a such

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<v Speaker 1>a personal driver of all of his businesses, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I can absolutely see where he would want to retain

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>that kind of control everything that they're and not have

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<v Speaker 1>to answer to a board, to a board that does

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily have him is the head of it, because

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>he is on the board of directors, right now as

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>is the president and CEO. Uh, she is also on

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<v Speaker 1>the board. But yeah, when you have stakeholders, when you

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 1>have we have uh, you know, stockholders, I should say,

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 1>then you've got to answer to a lot more people,

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<v Speaker 1>And often you may if you're in an industry that

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<v Speaker 1>requires as much risk as the space industry, you may

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:27.359
<v Speaker 1>have stakeholders who say, I'm not really I think can

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 1>we make money some other way? I can see you

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>getting pressured pretty easily into, you know, not doing these

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>crazy things like retiring the Falcon after one successful mission. Yes, exactly.

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>So it is interesting. We'll have to keep an eye

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<v Speaker 1>on it and see if, in fact, SpaceX ever does

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>go public and become a publicly traded company. But um,

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.479
<v Speaker 1>it's it's been a fascinating journey just to learn more

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>about this company and what what goes into it and

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>uh and what their plans are. And I have to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, before I started researching US, I was a

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>skeptical is probably not strong enough a word for it,

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<v Speaker 1>but very doubtful that we'd be ever able to get

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<v Speaker 1>anyone to Mars by twenty by the mid twenty twenties.

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Even now, I'm I'm skeptical, but I'm more willing to

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 1>believe it based upon the incredible accomplishments this company has

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>done so far, and it seems like they're gearing up

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 1>for something pretty big. Yeah, yeah, that's I mean. I

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>can't wait to find out what happens next. So for

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0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:43.360
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0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 1>all of the sound foam really interferes. Yeah, all I

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:48.920
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0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:52.120
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0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:55.120
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0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:57.680
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