1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This he's Talking 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: the Star in friscotowing to the say and now your hosts, 5 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: Isaiah stand Back, Patrick Walker and Kyle Yeomans. It is 6 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: a terrific Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black 7 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: Rifle Coffee Company. Here from the Star in Frisco in 8 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: the s WBC studios alongside Patrick No c Walker, Isaiah 9 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: stand Back, Crispiam in the backup. Kyle Yeoman's glad you're 10 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: with us. We are taking your calls today. Yes, this 11 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: is going to be a fan drib episode, much like 12 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: we like to do every Tuesday here on Talking Cowboys. 13 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: Put a little bit more so today I'm gonna take 14 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: a lot of calls today. Does that sound good? I'm 15 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: with it. This sounds good to me. Talk to Cowboys. 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Name Cowboys are six and two. You got the Green 17 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: Bay Packers coming up on Saturday. And in order to 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: take as many calls as we can eight eight eight 19 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: five five two two ninety seven, we gotta get right 20 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: into it. Gentlemen. Yeah, forty five minutes. Let's get some 21 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: news and notes out there. Patrick. Jerry Jones spoke on 22 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: one or five point three if from the Fan this morning. Um, 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: let's start with the smaller but still valuable tidbit in 24 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: that Ezekiel Elliott is expected to return to the field 25 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: and week ten against the Green Bay Packers. Um, now, 26 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: let's blow right past that and get to the bigger 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: what's the bigger nugget? What's that nugget? Is it like 28 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: a like a four chicken nugget? No, it's it's Is 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: it like a golden nugget? Golden deep fried? Turkey deep 30 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: fried and a whole nugget? Yeah, the nuggets that are 31 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: kind of reading turkey nuggets. I'm sure they're out there. 32 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: Everybody's made everything by the message message. Jerry Jones spoke 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: on one of five point three from the Fan about 34 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: in the Cowboys interest in Odell Belham Junior. Um, A 35 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: little bit of a political speak there, I'll put it 36 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: that way. And you know, on voting day of all 37 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: days to be political, but Jerry Jones was. He said 38 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 1: that he led with saying that he has full confidence 39 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: in the current White receiver Corps. He mentioned the incoming 40 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: debut of James Washington, which we expect he should see 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: his twenty one day window activated here soon. He spoke 42 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: about Ceedee Lamb still being the wide receiver one. The 43 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: team still believes that Michael Gallup's trajectory the tight end 44 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: trio as another white receiver group, something that I spoke 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: on here recently as well. And then he said that 46 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: if OBJ did have on the Cowboys, help me and 47 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: it would look pretty good on him. I'm sorry, who's 48 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: that Odell Beckham Jones? Oh, he did that as well. Said, 49 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, if you were to put on a Cowboys 50 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 1: helmet esthetically, it would look pretty good on him, and 51 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: then it looks good on anybody. Yeah. And then to 52 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: basically round it out, he said, if we we may 53 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: or may not make a move. Here's the actual quote. 54 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: We may or may not get something done as far 55 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: as adding that wide receiver. But if we don't, I 56 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: like where we are. End quote. So again, a lot 57 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: of double speak there. Let's let's get to the basic 58 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: science of it. Cowboys have interest in Odell Beckham Junior, 59 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: that's obvious. I don't think they're going to try to 60 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: overextend it publicly, because it would add that much more 61 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: leverage to the leverage he already has. Now that it's 62 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: post trade deadlines, there are going to be other suitors. 63 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: They'd have to bid high to get him against teams, 64 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: let the Green Bay Packers. But the Cowboys are interested. 65 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: Looks like it sounds like it's going to be a 66 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: future conversation. That's something that was said on yesterday by 67 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. It's potentially a future conversation dissect with Jerry 68 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: Jones said today he looks it looks as if he's 69 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: going to wait to see what James Washington can do, 70 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: look to give this a couple more weeks to see 71 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: if trajectory continues upward, if lamb can continue, if the 72 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: tight entrio, and then they may or may not make 73 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: a movie. Could this be one of those things because 74 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: there is, at least publicly there's mutual interest. I mean, 75 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys want to get a deal done, or at 76 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: least they're interested in pursuing the conversation. On the other side, 77 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior is interested quote unquote in coming to Dallas. 78 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: But could this just be one of those cases of 79 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: using the Cowboys as leverage to build your value as 80 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: a free agent. We see it in free agency in 81 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: the summer all the time, where a big name free 82 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: agent says, Hey, I'd love to be a Cowboy, and 83 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: then the price tag goes up a little bit. Yes, 84 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: could that just be the exact same thing happening right now? 85 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that it would just be. I think 86 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: that's also true. Yeah, I think that Odell has some 87 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: interest in potentially playing for the Cowboys. You you you talk 88 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: about and we were talking about this upstairs yesterday, Weather 89 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: being one of them. You're coming off of a second 90 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: toyin Aco. You're thirty years old, Dad, Frosty Green Bay. 91 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: Weather may not play nice, not not nearly as nicely 92 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: as Arlington with a dome in North Yeah. The cold 93 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: and uh and joints that have gone through injuries work 94 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: well together, right like those just mesh and it's it's 95 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: perfect lubrication. Yeah. I think he's I genuinely think he'd 96 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: like for a lot of reasons, he'd liked to put 97 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: on a Cowboys helping himself. But you know, at the 98 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: same time, he knows the game. He's a verite in this. 99 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: This isn't the first time he's been through this rodeo. 100 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: You mentioned the cowboys. Get the cowboys to the table. 101 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: The rising tide, you know, increases from everybody. So, Odell, 102 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: if you want to give us a call, by the way, 103 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: I know you're usually listening to Talking Cowboys. Odell Beckham Junior, 104 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: if you want to give us a call eight, five, two, two, 105 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: nine and seven. Now you would be in line because 106 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: we've got our first call of the evening world. First off, 107 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: did we have any more news and notes? I know 108 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: that'll do it. That'll do it all right. Nick in 109 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: Kansas City, you're on Talking Cowboys. How's it going? Nick? Hey, guys, 110 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: what's going on? It's going well, how's it going? Hey? 111 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: It's going all right, going all right? Happy to be 112 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: back from the bye weeks? Oh yeah, what's on your mind? 113 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: All right? So I got a couple questions. Um, one, 114 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: I heard the last end of you guys are talking about. 115 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: But is it the other way around where the OBJ 116 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: talk is uh Jerry being a business fan and uh, 117 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, getting people talking about the Cowboys during the 118 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: bye week. Muh you know, just tell you sometimes I'd 119 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: agree with that, and I'd also add in the aspect 120 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: of we've seen him use this similar tactic before, if 121 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: in fact, this is a tactic to motivate the guys 122 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: on the roster at that respective position. So maybe him 123 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: showing this amount of love to OBJ kind of likes 124 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: a bigger fire under the wide receiver group to say, hey, 125 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, we don't want that guy coming in here 126 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: taking out rips. It's a good point, yeah, for sure. Uh. 127 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: And the second is uh, um, I am terrified of 128 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: the Packers man um, even though they are what they 129 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: are now. They had tormented Dallas for years. It's legit 130 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: PTSD with him, you know, with Rogers. Uh, let's you 131 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: got eleven to the constas and the dive coutch, which 132 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: was worse. Yeah, you know, I'm just hoping this is 133 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: an old man showing and it's different, you know, and 134 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: dan Quinnon defense can get after him, but I'll let 135 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: you guys go. Uh. I appreciate show. Thanks Nick, Thanks Nick, 136 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: appreciate you as always. Nick in Kansas City. Uh, Let's 137 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: let's start with the Packers here, because I Patrick kind 138 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: of already got to what we were talking about with 139 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: OBJ and how it could be reversed. Jerry could certainly 140 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: be being a businessman at that point or a motivator. 141 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: But the Packers are a little It's one of those 142 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: weird ticking time bombs in the NFL that you know, 143 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: just because they've been bad at some point they're going 144 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: to figure it out. Now they haven't yet, neither have 145 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: the Rams. And the other one was Tampa Bay and 146 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: it looked like Tampa Bay might have figured it out 147 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: at the end against the Rams, but that was about it. 148 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: So Isaiah, when you look at the Packers, how worried 149 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: or concerned would you be in terms of this matchup 150 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: moving forward? I'm not extremely worried. I think that you 151 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: have to give the guy who is the QB there 152 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: all the respect in the world. I think he's not 153 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: playing good ball right now. I think the mistakes that 154 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: he's making are easily correctable. So I would worry in 155 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: that regard that you don't rest all all your freaking 156 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: ducks in the bucket to go off of what you've 157 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: seen from him so far, because you know what he's 158 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: capable of, and the mistakes that he's making right now 159 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: are literally just lack of focus, lack of execution, and 160 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: he literally he goes back and watches film and actually 161 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: dials in he can go back to being a run. However, 162 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the personnel surrounding him to be that effective. Also, 163 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: his officite line is pretty much compost. So combo that 164 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: with what Dallas does very well, which is get after 165 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: the quarterback, and all of a sudden, Green Bay has 166 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: a problem on their hands. But you definitely still give 167 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: the respect to a run. You don't treat him like, oh, 168 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: he's trash right now. If you do that, you'll you'll, 169 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: you'll catch one and eye. I most certainly understand and 170 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: can empathize with the PTSD from Aaron Rodgers and the 171 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. I get it. You know, the Cowboys 172 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: are favorites going into this game, and this is a 173 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: game that they should win handily. But I get it 174 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: right that said, I don't have a ton of concern here, 175 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: not to say I don't have any because when Aaron 176 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: Rodgers is on the field, like you said, how it's 177 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: a ticking time bomb. Sooner or later it's it's going 178 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: to explode, and you just hope that it's not in 179 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: your face, the face of their opponent next week or 180 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: the week after. But not the Cowboys but Aaron Rodgers 181 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have like like Asaiah said, he doesn't have the 182 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: personnelit wide receiver to exploit or even attempt to exploit 183 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: arguably the best passing defense in the NFL, led by 184 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: one of the best defensive coordinators in the NFL. I 185 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: think that pass rush has a chance to tee off 186 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers. And then the question is, you know, 187 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: ken your safeties and cornerbacks make wise decisions, right, because 188 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: that's when he really makes big plays outside of the pocket. 189 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: But for me, it's it's about flipping to the other 190 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: side of the coin. The Cowboys offense, if it continues 191 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: to find its chemistry and find it stride, it's going 192 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: to be going against a Packers' defense who's now without 193 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: Rashaun Garry lost for the season. With al he was 194 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: their team leader in sex six sex on the season, 195 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: third in the league and press. That's a massive loss, right, 196 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: And then they might not have I don't think they're 197 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: gonna have Eric Stokes, the safety out of the cornerback 198 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: out of Uga. He has a knee and a foot injury. 199 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: He might be done for the season as well. So 200 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: while on tape, the easiest thing to point out would 201 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: be Aaron Rodgers versus this defense. I think that might 202 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: cancel itself out. For me, it's going to be Dak 203 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: Prescott in this offense that takes advantage of a Packers 204 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: defense that just can't really stop much. So for the 205 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense, play Aaron Rodgers, don't play twenty twenty two 206 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. And then on the other side of the coin, 207 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: that might be the X factor. Whoever wins between the 208 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense and the and the Packers defense, and whoever 209 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: is bested in that battle may be the one that 210 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: comes out on Kissilver Shawn Garry in this football game. 211 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: These guys the games that they'd lost when you look 212 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: at their schedule, they've lost to two teams that you 213 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: would say and they probably shouldn't lost to those guys. 214 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: The last week. Yeah, I mean Detroit, right, Detroit. We 215 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: know how fisy Detroit is, Okay, and they put they 216 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: get after it, they play for Dan, they get after it. 217 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, so Detroit, it's like, Okay, you probably should 218 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: have won that game, but they're a feisty bunch, okay. 219 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: And then you look at the Washington Commanders talk about 220 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: a feisty bunch. So, I mean, other than that, they've 221 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: lost to the Vikings, they lost to the Giants, they 222 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: lost to the Jets, they lost the Buffalo, all very 223 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: respectable teams. Yeah. I think at the time, I think 224 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: it's safe to call thee Yeah. The Jets at that point, 225 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: whenever they beat the Packers, it was like, oh, okay, 226 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: that's just one of those Giants, same thing. Oh man, 227 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: they just beat him. But now you look now it's like, oh, 228 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: they're actually good. Okay, oh wow, the New York teams 229 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: are actually decent. Yeah. So I mean you can't look 230 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: at it as all these guys just been losing all 231 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: these games. They're not the Green Bay that you've come 232 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: to know and love. However, they don't have the arsenal 233 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: around them. But you they've lost the games they've lost 234 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: been to good freaking teams. These are good teams. I 235 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers he's going to because he's Aaron Rodgers, 236 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: He's going to get a couple plays off, a couple 237 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: of big plays off at home against the defense. But 238 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: I think for the most part of the defense is 239 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: going to do what they need to do. I can't 240 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: shake the thought though, that it's going to be the offense, 241 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: be it with the run and or the passing attack 242 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: that goes up a couple of scores, a couple of 243 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: possessions on this Packers offense, and then it forces Aaron 244 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: Rodgers to become a hero more and more and more. 245 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: And now those one or two big plays that he's made, 246 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: now it becomes one interception, two interceptions, three interceptions. I 247 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: mean the Detroit Lions, I like it, TFD. The Detroit 248 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: Lions did it right. They so bottled up that Packers 249 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: offense that doesn't have wide receivers or a real tight 250 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: end threat, that it forced the game on Aaron Rodgers, 251 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: and he started to make mistakes that were uncharacteristic and 252 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: he left with multiple interceptions. And so the blueprint is there, 253 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys have the personnel to execute a successful blueprint. 254 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: So there you go. Not the same Packers, but be careful, 255 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: be careful before we go to break. Let's get to 256 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: James in Memphis, Memphis, Tennis. Baby, you're on Talking Cowboys. 257 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Good morning, fantastic. How are you? Quick? 258 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: Question relates to the second half, well, actually during this 259 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: first half, with Damon Clark coming on and Dabril Cox 260 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: still out there. Do you see them in a rotation 261 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: with us losing um Jordan Lewis? And do you also 262 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: see us two part on the offensive side Kellen really 263 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: utilizing Tony and Zeke to their fullest potentials and using 264 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: them in the best way. Thanks to you guys, have 265 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: a great one. You're doing the best job possible. Thank you, 266 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you. James, thanks for tuning in. And two good questions. 267 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: Let's start with the scheme question on Jabrill Cox, good 268 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: coverage linebacker, still kind of fighting for some time coverage linebacker. 269 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: Don't look at me that way. What do you do? 270 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: You not agree that he's a good coverage linebacker since 271 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: his a CEO? Oh? How many times has he taking 272 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: coverage snaps? Probably two? Saying from what I've seen, Kyle, 273 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: that's my say. That sample moving the same way he 274 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: moved prior to his ACO and I think he's a 275 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: different type of player. Now what does he do now? 276 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: How is he different? Straight? So what he didn't do 277 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: well earlier is now what he does well, because that's 278 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: not what he did well initially. He was a coverage 279 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: linebacker out of college. I know. I'm just saying he's 280 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: not as agile as he wants. Guys. Well, I talked 281 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: to you about that in camp. Well, I know we 282 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: watched it in camp, and no, I agreed with you 283 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: at that point. I think we're a little bit far 284 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: removed and just now there's zero sample size, right. We 285 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: haven't gotten to see him yet games, which goes to 286 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: the question that James just poised, where does there is 287 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: there a rotation that's affected by the loss of Jordan 288 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: Lewis with the linebackers, Probably not a ton, but is 289 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: there a rotation where the mon arc and Jabril Cox 290 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: can kind of go hand in hand. I can't see 291 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: it right now. I don't think that a team possesses 292 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: multiple tight end threats to incorporate both of those guys 293 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: on the field simultaneously. I think the fact that you 294 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: haven't seen Jabril Cox in coverage to date is all 295 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: the evidence that you need to to kind of let 296 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: you know where they stand right now in terms of 297 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: his abilities in that regard, because otherwise he would have 298 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: been in there. Um, I think they're in a good 299 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: position at the linebacker position. I think they're still in 300 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: a good position even when George Lewis going down I 301 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: think they Dern Bland as a heck of a freaking player. 302 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: He's being as about as consistent as anybody has been 303 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: on that side of the ball since camp started. And 304 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: I think that they're they're they're they're good, They're they're 305 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: living in a glamorous life right now. On defense, I 306 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: don't I don't see that it would be a rotation, 307 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: which to me isn't a knock against Jabril Cox as 308 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: much as it is with the Cowboys need to repair 309 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: on defense. And I say that to say, if it 310 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: were the passing defense that was struggling and the run 311 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: defense was the best in the league, you'd likely see 312 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: your Bill Cox out there more than you see the 313 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: car because they it's subjective right now on if if 314 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: your Bill Cox is back to his LSU form as 315 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: far as being able to cover, But the Cowboys would 316 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: want to find out if their past defense was you know, 317 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: botting out. But because it's the inverse and the past 318 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: defense is a rock star, that means your coverage is 319 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: stellar for the most part, even from your linebackers for 320 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: the most part. But what you do need is your 321 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: linebackers or you know, yeah, your linebackers to help out 322 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: with the run defense, because I've said it time and again, 323 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: it's not the interior of the defensive line. It's it's 324 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: improved now with Jonathan Hankins, obviously, but even Hankering, I 325 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: think we've missed that we're gonna get back to all 326 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: so even with the addition of Hankins, so that that'll 327 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: help shore up the the interior defensive line. But without Hankins, 328 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: the interior defensive line wasn't the problem. It was the 329 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: linebackers covering those edges, and that's why you saw so 330 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: many successful runs to the outside by opposing teams. This 331 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: is what Deman Clark is going to be tasked with doing. 332 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: So the rotation isn't going to be Deman and Jabril, 333 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: is going to be Deman and Anthony. That's what it's 334 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: going to be. And Deman Clark's speed and physicality, that's 335 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are looking for from him as a 336 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: downhill guy who can also watch the pastor at times, 337 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy mentioned him as a potential flex option, So 338 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: don't be surprised if you see him once in a 339 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: while coming off of the defensive line. That's what you 340 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: get with Clark, that you don't get with your brill 341 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: where it is bar at right now. In terms of 342 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: the hemmy, they say he's fine. Yeah, I haven't heard 343 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: a whole lot coming out of the game. Mike McCarthy 344 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: said it was not a long term concern. And now 345 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: they're coming out of the bye week. Obviously this week's 346 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: this week in practice will tell all. But it was 347 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: a perfect week for him as it stands. There's no 348 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: there's no concern. Does it change things for you that 349 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: he's back in the phone with kind of what we're 350 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: saying here, Yeah, I mean if he's in, he's in. 351 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: Demron Clark is not. So. I mean, unless there's some 352 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: things that change, you know, catastrophically there, I don't. I 353 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: think Damron Clark is going to continue to get sprinkled 354 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: in there now that he was forced into getting reps. 355 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: I think that they they he probably showed some things 356 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: on film that they say, you know what, I like? 357 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: I like that, right. There's a whole lot of things 358 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: that he still needs to tie up, right, but it 359 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: was his first reps. Yeah, and I think now that 360 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: they've seen, Okay, this is the pace he's moving at, 361 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: this is what he's doing well, Okay, let's let's let's 362 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: sprinkle him in there. Now. Had he not been thrust 363 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: it into that position, he wouldn't be touching the field 364 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: and special team and be the same situation as Cox. 365 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: But he's but he showed him. Now once you I 366 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 1: see it, you can't see it. So now you got 367 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: to use them. And it's not going to be a 368 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: fifty fifty with Anthony Ball. I mean you might see 369 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: eighty five fifteen, but that fifteen percent has been earned 370 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: by what Clark was able to do um in being 371 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: thrust into the role two weeks ago. So ad snaps 372 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: for dabro Cox all on special teams. He only has 373 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: one snap on defense, and that was in a pass 374 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: rushing category. That was in Week five against the Rams. 375 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: Demon Clark forty total snaps last week twenty two in 376 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: the rush defense and seventeen back in coverage. So I 377 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: mean it's split. I mean there's a if Demon Clark 378 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: wasn't ready last week and it was Jabril Cox that 379 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: was active, because Jabill Cox was inactive for that game. 380 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: And then you see those guys go down like jay 381 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: Ron Kurz and Anthony Barr back to back almost simultaneously, 382 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: in that second half, it would have been Jabril Cox 383 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: in there instead of Demon Clark getting forty snaps. But 384 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: like you said, Damon Clark was the beneficiary of it. 385 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: And now he's been out there. Now he's shown that 386 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: he's had some good tape, or at least workable tape. 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We've got one on 455 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: the line right now. Like I said, that is behind 456 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: enemy lines. Troy in Philly. You're on talking Cowboys. Welcome 457 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: to the show. What's up man, I'm back talk you 458 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: guys A couple weeks ago. We actually the week we 459 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: play Philly out. Yeah, um, glad to hear you're still kicking. 460 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: That's good. I am. I am you know, they're a 461 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: little mum over. I think they're a litt nervous about 462 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, where they are. I think now I want 463 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: to talk about you know, they're the good season that 464 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: they're having started with their little mom m But you know, man, 465 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: I was, I was looking at this whole Dak thing, man, 466 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm I keep hearing people talk about 467 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: what Dak isn't, um, and I just get, uh, no, Ceo, 468 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: like this is there's some science for you, um, because 469 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: I keep hearing I keep hearing what Dak isn't in 470 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: terms of two things. One, I keep hearing that he's good, 471 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: not great, um, which you know that's that's that's I 472 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: guess that's subjective in questionable, um. But I hear that 473 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: around around his completion percentage and how accurate he is. 474 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: So I looked at some numbers, bradies, bradies, over his career, 475 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: Police completion percentage sixty sixty four point two, Aaron Rodgers 476 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: sixty five point three, Patrick Mahomes sixty six point two. 477 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 1: Your quarterback, Dak Prescott sixty six point six, higher than 478 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: all those guys. Probably you know the numbers throw line. 479 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: Then you know, I looked at them the overall quarterback rating. 480 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: UM Brady ninety seven point three, Rogers one or three 481 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: point nine, my Homes one or three point six. And 482 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: I get that. You know, those guys have some hardware 483 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: that Dak don't have. UM. And you know when you 484 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: talk about Brady and Rogers, they you know, the sample 485 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: size is a little larger, but um, I Dak Prescott 486 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: is right there with those guys. I mean, when you 487 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: talk about super Bowl victories, I think you guys know 488 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: that super Bowl victories are organizational wins, not quarterback wins. 489 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean it takes the front of the front office, coaches, players, trainers, 490 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: and little luck don't help, don't know't hurt even um. 491 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm just kind of getting a little 492 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: tired of him hearing what Dak isn't when he's right 493 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: there with some of the best quarterbacks in the league. 494 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: And that's actorly why I threw Pat Pat Mahomes in there, 495 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: because he's he hasn't played too long either. So you know, 496 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: we talked about the sample side, and that's completion percentage 497 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: is actually higher than is. So I mean it's time 498 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: for us to start putting a little bit of respect 499 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: on our quarterback's name. I mean, is he good? Is 500 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: he good or great? I don't know. I think you'll 501 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: have to win, you know, when the super bowlers to 502 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: get to that status. But his numbers do compare very 503 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: favorably to these guys. I'll hang ouvern, listen to you guys. 504 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: Love you guys. Man, keep doing this that great work. Thanks, 505 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: appreciate your Troy, Isaiah. You've got some thoughts. Okay, Um, 506 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: it's a lot to unpact. It's a lot to unpack, 507 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: all right, So first of all, thanks for the call. 508 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: Appreciate you calling in love, love thoughts outside of this room. 509 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: I am going to acknowledge that Dak Prescott is a 510 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: good quarterback. You're gonna roam and range it, Yeah, acknowledge. 511 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna acknowledge it. Yes. I'm also going to acknowledge 512 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: that the system that he operates in is obviously built 513 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: for him. And when I say that is I've been 514 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: known to stand on my own little mountaintop and say 515 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott is a play action quarterback. I've said 516 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: it a thousand times. That's what he is. And when 517 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: you usually have good play action, you have high precision 518 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: passes off of those plays, trust me being there done that. 519 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: Over routes, flats, nice little dumps to the tight end. 520 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: These are easier, high precision passes that usually guys are 521 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: open because there's a lot of misdirection things like that. Okay, cool, 522 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: So those passes are easier. When you start making comparisons 523 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: to the Allens and the and the Rogers and the 524 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, that's when you we really have to draw 525 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: the line because this is when stats. That is why 526 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm not a big component of just stats, because stats 527 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: are just one element of raiding a player. Stats only 528 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: show you a snapshot of what's going on in terms 529 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: of the game. It doesn't show you what's taking places 530 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: and show you drops. It doesn't show you any of 531 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: those things and then show you ball location, none of 532 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: that stuff. Patrick Mahomes through the ball sixty eight times 533 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: in last week's game, sixty eight times. Throw yourself to 534 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: a vict I think they ran it like five. You 535 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: would never you would never see Dak Prescott throw the 536 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: ball cc times. Why because of the system that he's in. 537 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: So when you look at the type of passers that 538 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: these gentlemen are, Patrick Mahomes can do, Dak Prescott play 539 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: action type stuff. I don't think that Dak Prescott can 540 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: sit up there and throw sixty eight times and throw 541 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: yourself into a victory. That's just me. That's my personal opinion. 542 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: That's not knock on him. It's just the system that 543 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: he's in is made for him to be successful. Good 544 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: running game playoff the running game. There are plenty of 545 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks around the league that are highly successful that plenty 546 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks have been around in this league that have 547 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: done very well being that type of quarterback. And then 548 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: there's gunslingers. Dak is not going to be in the 549 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: category of a gun slinger. And that's when you start 550 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: looking at the stat line or his percentage. You know 551 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: it's passing completion versus. You can't make that comparison. These 552 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: guys are throwing the ball twice as much as him easily. 553 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: Here's here's where I stand on him. I personally don't 554 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: like comparisons either, because no comparison is in a true 555 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: vacuum with you know, in and of it. So so 556 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: I will say this, Patrick Mahomes is a one of one. 557 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: You can't compare anybody to him. No. Ever, Tom Brady 558 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 1: is a one of one. Can compare anybody to TB twelve, 559 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: if only for the cerebral aspect of it. There has 560 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: never been a more cerebral quarterback and an arguably player. 561 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: That's an argument though to be made in the league. 562 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: Those are one of ones. But if you are insisting 563 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: on comparing and using that as a means of trying 564 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: to determine if you know where in the tears, just 565 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott rank. For me, he's he's not a good quarterback. 566 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: He's not a great quarterback. To me, Dak Prescott is 567 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: an elite quarterback. Now that could be viewed from several 568 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: different angles. I do believe that elite is above great. 569 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: Just for clarification, absolutely, he's an elite quarterback we're talking about. 570 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: And you're not wrong in that if you excel in 571 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: the system designed for you, you are still excelling. Yeah, 572 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean the systems that are designed for Aaron Rodgers 573 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: and Tom Drady and Patrick Mahomes and stuff like that. 574 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean they're good because they also are in a 575 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: good system. To my next point, you're not going to 576 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: tell me. No one's going to be able to shake 577 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: me from this. A player who was in the MVP 578 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: conversation pre injury, right, and now he started to get back. 579 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: When I say pre injury, I mean the compound fracture 580 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: in the ankle. This is a guy who has shown 581 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: he can throw five thousand yards and you know, almost 582 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: forty touchdowns and minimize interceptions and things like that. That 583 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: is an elite quarterback. You know you didn't see. And 584 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: this is this is why I hate comparisons, because what 585 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm about to say, somebody's going to take it as 586 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: as inadvertent shape. But it's not because the chest. All 587 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: the roses to Cooper Rushing listening, but there's a reason 588 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush was only averaging one touchdown per game, right, 589 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: Whereas Dak Prescott has shown that he can be in 590 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: the MVP conversation. To be in the MVP conversation, especially 591 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: at quarterback, you have to cross over the event horizon 592 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: to the elite status. Who would you classify as a 593 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: lade please? Along with Dak Prescott? Well, I mean obvious. Again, 594 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: you can't compare with Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady, but 595 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: their elite because give me a word above elite, like, 596 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: where are you going above that? Interstellar? Okay, let's create 597 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: a category for Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes interstellar. Okay, 598 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: out of this world. Out of this world that's interest? 599 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: Is Josh Allen in there? Interstellar? I need a bigger 600 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: sample size, So John, what Josh done? I'm has Josh 601 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: hoisted the Lombardi yet? He's had some postseason success? But 602 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: Dad has had some postseason success. I say that the cinema, right, 603 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a beast, He's a monster. He's elite. 604 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely he is. Is he interstellar? No, there're only two players. 605 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't even put I don't even I want to 606 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: say the same you said the LaDue. Yes, but Aaron Rodgers. 607 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is elite, but he's not interstellar in it. Okay, 608 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: you watched the Detroit Lions game and you tell me 609 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: that he's still interstellar. Steal. We're talking about careers though, right, 610 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: you said steal? Are we talking right? Tell me that 611 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: back to back NDP is not Please help me understand this. 612 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: I'll expand it to what you just said with no weapons. 613 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: I'll expand it to what you just said. Let's let's 614 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: look at it from a career standpoint, all right, So 615 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: let's go with the macro on a macro level. Fine, 616 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: I'll put Aaron at interstellar with those with the other two. 617 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: Thank you from a career than from a career aspect. 618 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: If you're asking me about Josh and Dak, what's what's 619 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: the real difference. Dak has been doing it longer. Dak 620 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: has put up more numbers because he's been doing it long, 621 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: stopped him from going to the Super Bowl. What do 622 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: you want me to do? Blame what you want me 623 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: to rank the coin like? I don't. I don't know 624 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: the team that beat him also lost in the AMC 625 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: chain and who who? So my point being, Dak is 626 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: better than good, better than great, He's elite. Is he interstellar? No, 627 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: he's not an interstellar because I would even give you 628 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So that's three. They're only three quarterbacks in 629 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: the league that are active right now that are interstellar. 630 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: Beneath those three you have this block of elite, and 631 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: it's not a huge block, but in that block you 632 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: have your Josh Allens and you have your Dak Prescott's um. Sure, 633 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: I'll throw Matthew Stafford in there because of what he 634 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: just did in you know, last year, he would be elite. No, 635 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: I would say, because heat Matthew Stafford actually did throw 636 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: the Rams to victory in Tampa a couple of times, right, 637 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: So sure they don't win that ring without Matthew Stafford. 638 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: So they're there's a block of elite in dak Prescott 639 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: is in that block. For me, would you put Jalen 640 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: Hurts in that block? Because that's my that's my one 641 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: hole I think in your reasoning that I can't get 642 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: over is Jack You're saying, you're saying MVP. If you're 643 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: in the MVP conversation at one points, Deck won the MVP. 644 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: Can we just go to that, Like, oh, I think 645 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: Lamar is in that category. Look at what he's doing 646 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: right now. He's arguing Lamar isn't. I'm not. I'm just saying, 647 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: like the word elite is its own category, and everybody 648 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: doesn't get in that category. Like everybody doesn't know you 649 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: have great five quarterback? No not not because you have three. 650 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: You have three an interstellar so that only leaves two spots. 651 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: I was about say, I feel like it's just this 652 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: is just an opinion, and everybody's value to their own opinion. 653 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: It depends on where you categorize these guys. Because the 654 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: guys that Patrick is calling interstellar are the guys that 655 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: I think people will call elitelite correct, and then people 656 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: that are great or who what that's fair you're saying, 657 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: it's just the way that you you classify it in 658 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: your own mind. They're one of ones, and those one 659 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: of ones will be Rogers, Mahomes, Brady, and for me, 660 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: they're better than elite. I think that calling them elite 661 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: is kind service disrespectful to what they actually are, much 662 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: like I would say calling Dak a good quarterback is 663 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: disrespectful to what he is. So yeah, I added another 664 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: category for guys that are untouchable, and they're only three 665 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: that are untouchable. But you can't lump them in. A 666 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: lot of people think elite is untouchables. That's what a 667 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: lot of But it's not though the definition would be 668 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: because in doing so, you would say that Patrick Mahomes, 669 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady are on the same accord. 670 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 1: And if you believe, if you believe Jalen Hurts is elite, 671 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: you're saying Jalen Hurts is in this and no, you 672 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: gotta there has to be another differentiator, and so I 673 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: created one. There you go, let's just say it. I 674 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: mean right now. Dak Prescott is third in the NFC, 675 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: and he's the third best quarterback in the NFC, but 676 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: he's only behind Jalen Hurts and Kirk Cousins. 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The concert kicks off at 725 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: seven pm and it's free and open to the public. 726 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: For more information, visit the Star Frisco dot com. Who's 727 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: in charge of determining what classification your music is in? 728 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: Probably the band right for them, you would yes and 729 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 1: no um, because a band or an individual can deem 730 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: their music one thing, um, but it can be category 731 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 1: cross categorized as a couple different things. Just a Bieber argument. 732 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 1: Just Bieber says he's R and B. But that's not 733 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: what Billboard says. They says he's popped, he's pop. So 734 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: would you classify uh, Western rewrun what Western rewinds country rock? 735 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: As elite? Would you classify it as elite or would 736 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: you do it as untouchable? It's not up there with 737 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: Stevie Nicks and and Billy Joel. Those are interesting, inter untouchable, 738 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: those are untouchable. That Isaiah, Oh gosh, all right, let's go. 739 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: H We got a couple more calls to get to 740 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 1: West in Philadelphi, Eric too, Not Philadelphia, You're in Pennsylvania. 741 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: My apologies, Wes, you're on Talking Cowboys. Hey fellas, good morning. 742 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for everything you do. I'm not a normal radio 743 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: show caller, but I listen to you guys every day 744 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you all. Patrick, You've been an awesome 745 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: addition to the show. And shout out to Rob the Island. Yeah, Rob, 746 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: love it. I want to know when are we going 747 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: to get to these defensive nicknames, because I have a 748 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: great nickname for I don't still knows these thunder here 749 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: no steal it go. I want to know what the 750 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: nickname is? What all right, this is it, though you're 751 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to find a better one, go 752 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: for it. We're gonna call them the quinn Essentials. Who 753 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: that's Bars. That's pretty good. That's Bars. Come ont Essentials. 754 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: I like it. That's Bars. Rom with it, massive fan 755 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: of word playing, Sir, you just dropped some real, some 756 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: real just interstellar untouchable, untouchable word play on the panel. 757 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: I love it. With we are So we are in 758 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,959 Speaker 1: week ten? Well we said, we said week ten after 759 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: the bye, we probably need to start looking at these nicknames, 760 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: and they've been dominant, so maybe maybe we do. And 761 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: we were going to take fan submission. So West has 762 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: got his the Quintessentials. I like, I've had money. That 763 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: chamber kind of rings you ready to roll. I'm ready 764 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: to pull back. West. Thank you for the call. Appreciate you, man. 765 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: I appreciate your support as always, and thanks for listening. Yeah, 766 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: feel free to call in a little bit more. That 767 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: was a great call about Gary in New Mexico. You're 768 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: on talking cowboys, Gary, what's going on? I'm not much 769 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: a couple of things. Isaiah is exactly right about Dak Prescott. 770 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: He is a very good quarterback, but he's got to 771 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 1: be in the right system. Twenty to thirty throws a game. 772 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: That's how you win with him, strong running game, complimentary football. 773 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: If you start winning at thirty five times a game, 774 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 1: they ain't going nowhere with him. That's just the way 775 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: it is. And if you look at Troy stats from 776 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 1: the early nineties when we were winning Super Bowls, there's 777 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: a whole lot of nineteen twenty five twenty one to 778 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven, two hundred and fifty yards a touchdown. That's 779 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: how they won. That's how you got to win with that. 780 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 1: On the on the defensive nickname, man, it's not rocket science. 781 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: Just make it Doomsday three. But we don't need to 782 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: be passing out nicknames until we actually get some skins 783 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: on the wall. Okay, championship game, you get back to 784 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: an NFC championship game, then you talk to me about nickname. 785 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: All right, appreciate your call, Mike Drop, get back to 786 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: an nc championship game. Good. Yeah, But you know, I'd 787 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: argue that the guy that has several four hundred yard 788 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: passing games with multiple touchdowns, he can throw you to 789 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: a win and has several times and can go check 790 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 1: his comeback wins is I think that's so you victory. 791 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't love that as an argument, like the can 792 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: he throw fifty eight times or whatever? Sixty eight? What 793 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: was it for Patrick Mahomes sixty that's a lot ten 794 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: more than Dak's career high, because he's thrown for fifty 795 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: eight twice and they've both been in losses. But I 796 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: do want to say if you needed Dak to do that, 797 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: he probably could. Any quarterback can. Was about how him 798 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 1: quarterback can sixty times a game? Now, well, he just 799 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 1: proved the point that Dak hasn't done. So he's thrown 800 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: fifty eight times. Okay, I will say he's thrown over 801 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: fifty times six times in his career thrown over fifty 802 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: he's won two of those six, so he's two and four. 803 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: So he's just one game below five hundred in that regard. 804 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: And you gotta think about the situation and a lot 805 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: of those you're playing from behind usually and we're playing 806 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: from what was this defense looking like? Okay, so twenty 807 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 1: twenty bad, twenty twenty bad, twenty eighteen pretty bad, twenty 808 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: one getting better, twenty one getting better? Uh, and then 809 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: yeah the defense was bad. We got to create another 810 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: category that wasn't so bad. We're talking untouchable bad. You 811 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: know Dante's infern over it, like, oh gosh, drag me 812 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: to hill baby. Yeah, it was not good by any means. 813 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twice in twenty twenty, 814 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,919 Speaker 1: and twice in twenty twenty one. So I mean that's 815 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: where it pretty much was all the way through. And 816 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: one of those wins was twenty eighteen, and one of 817 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: those was twenty twenty one against the Patriots last year. 818 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: So it's a conversation. It will forever be a conversation, 819 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: and especially if he never makes it time because that 820 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,959 Speaker 1: that makes the thing right there. Yeah, that logo, it'll 821 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 1: continuously be a conversation. But I mean I would probably 822 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: side toward Isaiah. I would say he's a good quarterback, 823 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: maybe even borderline great. I'm not at the elite conversation yet, 824 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean he can't get there. He can 825 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: certainly get there because he has every tool to get 826 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 1: there and to be there at some point down the line. 827 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it here for us on talking cowboys. 828 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: Hope you had some fun with us here over the 829 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: next or last forty five minutes. We'll be back tomorrow 830 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: to break down the Cowboys defense versus a Packers offense 831 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: and one of the X factor matchups that we talked 832 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: about a little bit earlier on Can this defense get 833 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: Actor Aaron Rodgers for Chris Bean, Isaish standback, Patrick Nosey Walker, 834 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: rom Kyle Yeomen, saying so long from Talking Cowboys. We'll 835 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. This has been a production of Dallas 836 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.