1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: And welcome back to George Norry along with doctor Donna Marx. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: Our books are called Healing, Moment, Exit Amaze. You've got 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: a live Facebook program you're working on, Donna, don't you. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 3: Yes, we are going to be launching on a course 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 3: live on Facebook, a three day challenge to help people 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: embrace their miracle moment or their New Year's resolution, however 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: you want to look at that. And we also are 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: going to be offering an online course for people who 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: want to stop a particular behavior or start a new one. 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: So we are here to help and support people who 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: are ready and willing to transform themselves. 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: What are some of the great points for people to 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: keep their resolutions? 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, make sure that you're ready to 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: do it and to be committed. That's the biggie. And 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: as I said earlier, to make sure that you're specific 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: about what you're going to do. You can't just say 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: you want to save money. How much money do you 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: want to save every week? And where are you going 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: to put that money? So it's not easily accessible and 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: you can just justify spending it. So you have to 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: really have a concrete plan, don't get distracted. It's so 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 3: easy to listen to that part of the mind that says, oh, 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: I don't really feel like doing that this week or today, 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: I'll do it tomorrow, I'll do it later. That is 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 3: a killer because it will not work. You have to 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 3: do it now. You know that expression do it now. 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: Don't even listen to the part of the mind that says, 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: do it later. Later doesn't exist. We don't know that 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: we even have it later. So doing it now is 32 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: very important. And then getting support. If your family isn't 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: going to support you, find people that will so that 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: you can stay on track. And the biggest thing, the 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: real biggie, is that you have to be willing to 36 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: be uncomfortable. Whenever you make a big behavior change, you 37 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: get uncomfortable just thinking about doing that thing, but there's 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: no growth in staying the same. You have to be 39 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: willing to be uncomfortable to experience the miracles that come 40 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: from these New Year's resolutions, or any type of resolution 41 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 3: anytime in your life. It's not comfortable to change. It's 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: not comfortable to feel like you're giving up something that 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: you like doing, even if it's not good for you. 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: So when you're willing to be uncomfortable, you've taken your 45 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: power back. And that's really the key here is that 46 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 3: you're willing to have your whole self, all of yourself, 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: and your brain, which is your command center, is now 48 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: under your control instead of something else that's not good 49 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: for you. 50 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: Donal Why is it easier for some people to change 51 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: and to commit and others have a difficult time doing that? 52 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: Well, some people enjoy growing. Some people really get excited 53 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: with making us kind into changes and they like, this 54 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: is what happens. Most people do not understand what self 55 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: love means. So once you start saying, once you start 56 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: claiming your power and you claim that you're going to 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: make some changes and then you succeed, you feel better 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: and better and better about yourself, and that builds an 59 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: internal momentum that makes you unstoppable. So you have more energy, 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: You feel positive, you feel connected, You go out into 61 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: the world on fire like you are. George. I hear 62 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: it in your voice on your show and you're just 63 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: doing your thing and you're bringing in all these amazing subjects. 64 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: So people that are embracing that life never stays the same. 65 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: And I want to keep growing and changing. They do 66 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: much better than someone who's like, no, no, no, that's 67 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: not comfortable for me. Yeah, maybe that kind of thing, 68 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: and the negativity, the fear based people, the people that 69 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: live in fear, they aren't willing to be uncomfortable. They 70 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: aren't willing to step out of what they're doing all 71 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: the time. They're in patterns. They're comfortable enough, and so 72 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: they settle for less and they never really achieve that 73 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: level of self love that makes life a wonderful, exciting, 74 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: fiery turned on experience. 75 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: You're on with me in April of twenty twenty three 76 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: talking about your book Healing Moment. But tell us again 77 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: about that title, Healing Moment. What does that mean. 78 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: It's when the light bulb goes off in the mind. 79 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: It's when you are thinking something's not right here, or 80 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 3: something terrible has happened to you. Maybe you're going through 81 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: a divorce, or maybe you had an accident, or maybe 82 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 3: you lost your job, or you had a bad breakup, 83 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: and the light bulb goes off and you see something 84 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: totally different than rather than seeing it from a place 85 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 3: of fear and sorrow and grief. This amazing insight comes 86 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 3: to you that you're going to do something with this 87 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: and it's going to turn into a miracle. And that's 88 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: the healing moment where instead of being a victim of 89 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 3: whatever happened, you become empowered and find meaning and purpose 90 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: in what happened and turn that into the miracle. It's 91 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: all about learning how to love yourself, how to love 92 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: other people. That's the only reason we're here. 93 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: You find that most people can make these things happen 94 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: by themselves or do they need this outside help? 95 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: Well, I think that the biggest support is internally and 96 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: then that need and then we need reinforcement from outside 97 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: because when we are trying to since we're talking about 98 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 3: New Year's resolutions, if someone's been smoking cigarettes for thirty years, 99 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: they need support. Very few people can just make just 100 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: swear off a habit and feed. Maybe one and ten 101 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: million people can do that. Those are not very good odds. 102 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: Plus the fact that it's so much it's pleasant to 103 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: have a support system and to have encouragement and the 104 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: add of boys and you're doing this and that's great, 105 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: and to be able to talk about those challenges emotionally 106 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: from change, so that when we talk about being uncomfortable, 107 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 3: you don't have to be uncomfortable because when you share 108 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: that discomfort with other people who've gone through That's why 109 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: twelve step programs are so powerful. You have the support 110 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 3: of people who are on the other side of the discomfort, 111 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: and you're seeing their joy and happiness, so you know 112 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: that you can have that too. So internally, to listen 113 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: to that little voice that says you can do this, 114 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: and you have that light bulb moment and you have 115 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: that breakthrough, and then take that and go get the 116 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: support that you need to be able to maintain that miracle. 117 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: What creates an addiction, Donna, Well. 118 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: That's a very good question, and I think that it's 119 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 3: created externally. I believe that it's nobody's fault as they've 120 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 3: become addicted. The first time I slept a cigarette, I 121 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: couldn't wait to smut finish the whole pack. I mean, 122 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: it was just unbelievable. Things are made to get us addicted. 123 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: It's intentional. People study behavior, they study the brain, and 124 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: then they invent things in order to get people addicted. 125 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: Whether it's cigarettes, whether it's alcohol, whether it's pornography, whether anything. 126 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: Sugar is like crack cocaine in the brain, we now know, 127 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: and then they refine it now and high fre those 128 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: corn SUPs, so it becomes more and more addictive. So 129 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: what happens is the brain wants more the minute that 130 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: the person's exposed to whatever they become addicted to, and 131 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: then then they truly are a victim of what happened 132 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 3: to them. I want people to take back their power 133 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: and control. If we never start these things to begin with, 134 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: and we won't ever become addicted. But now we've got 135 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: a whole new movement in addiction that's telling everybody that, oh, 136 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,119 Speaker 3: do you have a brain disorder and you've been born 137 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: this way? Well, I think that we do develop a 138 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: brain disorder. I certainly developed a brain disorder from torturing 139 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: my brain with substances and alcohol and nicotine and all. 140 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: It became disordered. But it's perfectly fine now that I'm 141 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: abstinate and that I'm healthy, so I don't need to 142 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: take more drugs to deal with the drugs. It just 143 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: makes no sense at all. So many mental health disorders 144 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: are diagnosed prematurely, and people are put on drugs that 145 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: alter their moods forever change their moods. And I'm not 146 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: anti medication. There are people who need medication, but it's 147 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: way over prescribed, and we have become a very addicted society. 148 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: And I think that it's time that we begin to 149 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: raise our children, to teach them to love their brains, 150 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: to love their lungs, to love their hearts, to love themselves, 151 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: and to know how to eat healthy and how to 152 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: play outside, and how to talk about their feelings in 153 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 3: healthy ways and not act them out. It's really easy 154 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 3: to raise healthy children. It just takes a little bit 155 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: of effort to teach children that they deserve to treat 156 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: themselves with love and to be loved. And so once 157 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: we have that kind of consciousness, we don't really want 158 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: to put poison in our bodies. We don't really want 159 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: to damage ourselves, we don't really want to disease our brains. 160 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: We want to feel good about ourselves. And so that's 161 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: what I really teach people when they come to see 162 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: me and they have call it bad habits or addictions, 163 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: I don't care what you call it. They had behaviors 164 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: that aren't serving them, are making them unhealthy mentally or physically, 165 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 3: and they want to change. And so those people that 166 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: I work with are willing to be uncomfortable and go 167 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: through those steps that will help them to be free 168 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: and reclaim their power and learn how to replace those 169 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 3: behaviors with self love. 170 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: Last week I had Howard Reebeck on he's an expert 171 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: on addictions to gambling. Is there a difference between an 172 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: addiction to a physical thing like a drug or an 173 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: alcohol as opposed to something that's more emotional. 174 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: Well, it's all emotional, and it's all giving me that 175 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: same hit, that dopamine hit, that adrenaline, and not charge, 176 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: So it doesn't matter what it is. Gambling has become 177 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: a really serious problem. Pornography and gambling are really at 178 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: the top of the list right now. Sex addiction as well, 179 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: because people since the book Fifty Shades of Grade Tea 180 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: were coming more and more into more and more things 181 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: to get more and more turned on, and course, just 182 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: like any addiction, the more you do, the more you need. 183 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: Pornography has become for young men, a very very serious issue. 184 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of young men in my office 185 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: that cannot sustain a relationship with a partner because they've 186 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 3: become so addicted to pooring that they it's almost impossible 187 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 3: to learn how to have healthy intimacy and gambling. Because 188 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: of the phones and the laptops and the iPads, and 189 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: that it's so accessible, people are just simply become addicted. 190 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: Then they get financially in trouble before they ever even 191 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 3: realize it, and so then they get that cycle. I'll 192 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: gamble my way out of it. That's like drinking your 193 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: way out of alcoholism. It just doesn't happen. 194 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: Does the addiction somehow start when you're a kid, Now, 195 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: not necessarily pornography or anything like that, but something within 196 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: the human body to create the addiction. 197 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: Well, that's the current theory is that children are born 198 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: with this brain disease. But I don't believe that there's 199 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 3: hundreds of millions people with addictions. So I don't believe 200 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: that the babies are born with that many babies are 201 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: born with brain diseases. I think that there is a 202 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: genetic factor that if you have addiction and your family 203 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: you are probably more likely to develop an addiction. But 204 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: there's no gene that says you have to smoke, you 205 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: have to drink, you have to watch porn or gamble. 206 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: There's no gene that dictates that you ever start doing that. 207 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: That's why we need to raise our consciousness to a 208 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: whole new level. Maybe some of these aliens that are 209 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: coming here are trying to deliver that message to us 210 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 3: that we need to start loving ourselves instead of medicating 211 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 3: ourselves so much and really take our power back. 212 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 2: Are the parents responsible for this? 213 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: Well? The family environment has a lot to do with 214 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: a child's mental health, of course, and so when children's 215 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: needs aren't met, if they aren't held, nurtured, fed, cuddled, 216 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: affirm that they're wonderful and fantastic, and given structure and discipline, 217 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: then they do not understand self love because they didn't 218 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: at it from the person who's supposed to love them. So, yes, 219 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: there is there is a role there. But it's not 220 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: like parents intentionally want to go have babies so that 221 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: they can turn them into addicts. It's just that as 222 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: a society we are evolving and understanding the factors of 223 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 3: raising a mentally healthy child. I was recently speaking at 224 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: a for a group and they were talking about children 225 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: and what children need to do, and what I finally said, 226 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: I can't take it anymore. It's not what the children 227 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 3: need to do. The parents need to be the healthiest 228 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 3: version of themselves so that they can raise healthy children. 229 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: You can't just expect the children to be healthy while 230 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,359 Speaker 3: you're doing all kinds of unhealthy things around them. 231 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: I was born in Detroit, so I'm a Detroit fan 232 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: for sports, and my son was born in Saint Louis, 233 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: but I taught him to like the Detroit teams and 234 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 2: loves and he loves them. 235 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: Well. 236 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 2: He's got a thirteen year old daughter, my granddaughter, Charlotte. 237 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: We call her Charlie. He's got her turned on with 238 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions football team, and so every Sunday when 239 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: the Lions are playing, she'll watch the game. She'll put 240 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: her Detroit Lions jersey on her hat. She'll be at 241 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: home sharing, sending me text measures Papa, Papa, they're winning, Papa, 242 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: they lost. They're playing pretty well this year. 243 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: By the way. 244 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: But I mean, is that an addiction? What would you 245 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: call that? 246 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: I think that's a wonderful family tradition, and family traditions 247 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: are important. She's not out smoking weed with her girlfriends. 248 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: She's at home with her family. She has an interest 249 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: and she's sharing that with you and her father, and 250 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: that is a wonderful, enthusiastic, passionate moment for her. To 251 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: be able to do. 252 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: That, But is it an addiction. 253 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: I would not call that an addiction. Addiction is something 254 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: that you continue to do despite harm to yourself or others. 255 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: I'm not hearing any harm in what you just said 256 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: describe to herself for others. I'm hearing sharing a loving 257 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: experience and exciting time which is going to be in 258 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: her consciousness and in her template and will and fill 259 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: her heart with warmth and joy the rest of her 260 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: life when she thinks back on those moments. 261 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 262 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 263 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: dot com for more