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Speaker 2: Check it out, man. This is the beating of the
Speaker 2: book week nine, October thirty first, which is also called
Speaker 2: Halloween Podcast here in the year of twenty twenty four. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: our fearless leader, Young Gil Barry Bonds Alexander is not
Speaker 2: here with us today due to the fact that his
Speaker 2: mom died. So it's a little bit of a sad
Speaker 2: day for him over there, or not a little bit
Speaker 2: of a very sad day for him over there. Are
Speaker 2: going to do this and try to, you know, try
Speaker 2: to do the best we can for the mediocre broadcaster
Speaker 2: that he is, and obviously he's not a mediocre broadcaster.
Speaker 2: I'm just getting around. Anyways, we have with us our
Speaker 2: friends here every week we have will the thrill, who
Speaker 2: is not in a good mood because a guy named
Speaker 2: Garrett Cole, former pirate, did not run to first base. Willie,
Speaker 2: what say you.
Speaker 3: Tough? We were just talking before we started here, like
Speaker 3: the as you get older, especially you're doing this, you
Speaker 3: know in terms of like media and you're betting seriously,
Speaker 3: the fan and you dies a little bit. But man,
Speaker 3: the fan in me feels it today because first of all,
Speaker 3: I was hoping for a Game six. The drama was building,
Speaker 3: Judge was getting hot, Otani was clearly hampered, and Game
Speaker 3: six I think they would have lost with Rodonn. I
Speaker 3: think it was a bad matchup, but who knows. It's
Speaker 3: one game and if they won that, they're in Game seven.
Speaker 3: So I was really looking forward to a Game six.
Speaker 3: I had some Yankees futures, really good prices before they
Speaker 3: treated for Soto, and my goodness, I can live with losing.
Speaker 3: It is tough to give it away, and they gave
Speaker 3: it away. I mean, think about five nothing. Cole has
Speaker 3: a no hitter in the fifth, gives up a single,
Speaker 3: No big deal. Judge hasn't made an air all season,
Speaker 3: regular season, postseason. He drops a pop up that you
Speaker 3: know the three of us would catching our sleep, all right,
Speaker 3: no big deal. Volpe botches a ball, and after all
Speaker 3: of that, you're still going to get out of it
Speaker 3: because Cole strikes out two guys he doesn't cover first,
Speaker 3: Mayhem ensues, and even after all that, you're up one
Speaker 3: with six outs to go, and you can't get home.
Speaker 3: So as painful as it gets, Yankees give it away
Speaker 3: and the season ends, and just absolutely brutal fashion here.
Speaker 3: And not only should this series probably be going back
Speaker 3: to La Man the way the Yankees gave away Game one,
Speaker 3: you could make a strong case the Yankees should be
Speaker 3: going back to la up three games to two, but
Speaker 3: it is not to be. The Dodgers the better team,
Speaker 3: and the Dodgers are the champions.
Speaker 4: Here they looked like Timmy Lupis and Tanner Boyle from
Speaker 4: the Bad News Bears out there in the fifth inning,
Speaker 4: just with with.
Speaker 5: All of those aerrs.
Speaker 4: Look give credit to Dave Roberts, though I thought Dave
Speaker 4: Roberts pushed all the right buttons pretty much in this postseason,
Speaker 4: Aaron Boone certainly did not.
Speaker 2: That's obviously, the voice of Wes Reynolds, Indiana University's most
Speaker 2: famous graduate from Visen and he was giving us his
Speaker 2: take there on the baseball wes. How you doing otherwise?
Speaker 5: I'm well, guys, glad to be here with you.
Speaker 2: Okay. So it's week nine. I'm going to do my
Speaker 2: best to try and to keep this going the way Gilwood.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do as good a job as him, obviously,
Speaker 2: but I'll try my best, okay. So first things first,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about the records real quick. Gilly is making
Speaker 2: quite a comeback, and we also have his picks for
Speaker 2: today as well, so we'll be giving those as well.
Speaker 2: But he has made quite a comeback with a nice
Speaker 2: two in one last week to go to twelve eleven
Speaker 2: and one. He also won his teaser to go to
Speaker 2: two and six, will goes one to one in one? Right, well,
Speaker 2: is that right? Had that battle to oh and one?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry too, Oh, I knew I did something wrong there, right,
Speaker 2: you won Browns, you won under bills and tie Caroline. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I knew I made a mistake.
Speaker 3: I shot on the push with a Carolina who suddenly
Speaker 3: turned into Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs going ninety eight
Speaker 3: yards to push on that final drive because both teams
Speaker 3: were trying to score for some inexplicable reason.
Speaker 2: So you go to oh and one as I as
Speaker 2: I predicted last week that you would turn it around
Speaker 2: and you go two and one with browns and under
Speaker 2: and the Bills, and then you got the you got
Speaker 2: How funny was that that? My my announce my fake
Speaker 2: announcership that was trying to knock both your picks off
Speaker 2: was almost correct because there was a back door touchdown
Speaker 2: that made us you push the Carolinian So that was
Speaker 2: pretty funny. Uh so you're eight fifteen in one. You
Speaker 2: also win your teaser to go three and five. We're
Speaker 2: making comeback on the teaser side, which is excellent. I
Speaker 2: went one and two had one of the most unfortunate
Speaker 2: pushes into a loss of all time there with the
Speaker 2: Rams under forty eight. If you tear a man's head
Speaker 2: off by grabbing his face mask, Wes, is that a
Speaker 2: penalty in the National Football League or is that just
Speaker 2: something to be ignored.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was a little bit surprised that they went ahead
Speaker 4: and ignored that I was on the Rams side last week.
Speaker 5: But yeah, that was a that was a brutal miss call.
Speaker 4: I think for the Vikings, where you know they had
Speaker 4: a chance to drive down there and tie the game.
Speaker 5: Eventually that gets called the safety, and that was a wrap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to score twenty eight twenty. At the time, I
Speaker 2: had under forty eight. So if they give them the
Speaker 2: they give them the fifteen yard penalty, it almost certainly
Speaker 2: well it could easily landed twenty eight twenty because if
Speaker 2: the Vikings don't score, it lands there. Now maybe the
Speaker 2: Vikings would have come back and score anyways, but it
Speaker 2: was a long way to go with not that much
Speaker 2: time left. Anyways, because it's.
Speaker 3: A big wrestling fan, I think that's a fifteen yard
Speaker 3: penalty even like w I think that's a penalty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such a qualification and that's a ring the
Speaker 4: bell DQ and did not make that happen. Sam Darnold
Speaker 4: does not get the call and the Rams get the win.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I go one and two to go to
Speaker 2: thirteen to eleven. I won my teaser as well to
Speaker 2: go to three and five. So we're getting healthy again
Speaker 2: with the teasers. Not as good as last year, but
Speaker 2: we're getting back to healthy. The guest Felika went oh
Speaker 2: in three Bengals, Miami and Buccaneers, but did win his teasers,
Speaker 2: So the guest goes to twelve to eleven and one
Speaker 2: and five and three on the teasers. Okay, so that
Speaker 2: takes care of the of the records. So I guess
Speaker 2: the first thing I just wanted to talk about is
Speaker 2: our Dumbo of the week, And maybe you guys will
Speaker 2: have different Dumbos of the week. But I felt that
Speaker 2: the Colts, and I've seen coaches do this in college
Speaker 2: and in pros all the time, these coaches. With twenty
Speaker 2: three seconds left the first half, you're inside your own
Speaker 2: fifteen yard line. The chances of you moving down and
Speaker 2: getting a field goal here are not very good, and
Speaker 2: you'd you insist on throwing the ball and turning it over,
Speaker 2: as Anthony Richardson did late in the first half. To me,
Speaker 2: that was just an egregious mistake. Am I reading that wrong, guys,
Speaker 2: or would you agree with that? Or did you find
Speaker 2: somebody else even stupider than that?
Speaker 3: I wasn't watching at the time, but I would based
Speaker 3: on the way you're describing, I have no disagreement. Just
Speaker 3: scrolling through the scores here to see if anything triggers
Speaker 3: my memory. In terms of something egregious, nothing really jumps
Speaker 3: out unless you want to talk about the Bears the
Speaker 3: defense of the last I don't know, ten to fifteen
Speaker 3: seconds where not only give up to hail Mary, but
Speaker 3: that ten twelve yards and Romo did a perfect job
Speaker 3: of Hey, they're not in hail Mary range. I would
Speaker 3: fake like I'm running a Hail Mary, and I'd get
Speaker 3: ten twelve yards on and out, and then I'm in
Speaker 3: hail Mary range. And even Nenny fell short on that.
Speaker 3: And then you have the ridiculousness of the kid dancing
Speaker 3: around in the middle of the play then batting the
Speaker 3: ball backwards when hey, you could have just as soon
Speaker 3: as that ball gets touched, you can wipe Noah Brown
Speaker 3: out and just tackle him. And that's not a penalty
Speaker 3: because the balls touched and anything kind of goes on,
Speaker 3: not hill Mayor to begin with. So I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe the Bears defense that last few seconds was was
Speaker 3: one for a nomination.
Speaker 4: How about you, I will piggy bet Yeah, I was
Speaker 4: gonna say, Todd, I'll piggyback off you. But I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be do a more holistic and encompassing approach here for
Speaker 4: the Indianapolis Colts, because look, Anthony Richardson, I think he
Speaker 4: was like two to fifteen going into the going into
Speaker 4: the half. Now it wasn't all on Richards and he
Speaker 4: went ten for thirty two, by the way, which is abysmal.
Speaker 4: And obviously he has been benched this week. We'll see
Speaker 4: if you guys have that game with Minnesota and it's
Speaker 4: going to be Joe Flacco.
Speaker 5: But it was him.
Speaker 4: It was the receivers dropping pass, it was the play
Speaker 4: calling I think of Shane Stiken, which really did him
Speaker 4: no favors. And it's just the whole organization is a
Speaker 4: mess to the s as they say, because now they're
Speaker 4: going with Joe Flacco. This seems like this might be
Speaker 4: a decision by the ownership.
Speaker 5: I don't know. That's been speculated about.
Speaker 4: It's been speculated that it's been maybe a punishment for
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson asking out of the game for a play
Speaker 4: where in the post conference he said, well, I was
Speaker 4: tired to be honest with you.
Speaker 5: Well, don't be honest with us.
Speaker 4: Lie to us, say your chin strap broke, say that
Speaker 4: your you know, your headset where you get the play
Speaker 4: call shorted out and you need to get that fixed.
Speaker 4: Lie kid, you know, don't you know, don't be honest
Speaker 4: about that. You know that he was tired.
Speaker 5: And look, that's a way to lose the locker room.
Speaker 4: That's a way to get a lot of unneeded grief
Speaker 4: for a kid that's really struggling to develop and only
Speaker 4: has ten starts in this league. So the Indianapolis Colts
Speaker 4: are the clown show of the week, clown.
Speaker 2: Show the week yet seven and one against the spread.
Speaker 6: Which is quite amazing.
Speaker 2: It's quite interesting that they're the clown shows.
Speaker 5: Took it, took a little money this week.
Speaker 2: Yes, they just keep covering spreads, but they are clownish,
Speaker 2: there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: The other dingy Indiana just covers the Indiana Hoosiers eight
Speaker 3: and oh straight up and against the spread.
Speaker 6: The football is West is rock.
Speaker 3: And the uh you know the Indiana had and Todd
Speaker 3: For people that aren't watching, and this is this is
Speaker 3: audio only. Todd has really taken Halloween seriously here, I
Speaker 3: don't know. This is like a naughty cheerleader outfit he
Speaker 3: has on. It's like two sizes too small. But thankfully
Speaker 3: for people, they can't see Todd's costume right now.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: That would be believable if Halloween costumes were made in
Speaker 2: the size of extra extra extra extra extra large, and
Speaker 2: we all know that they aren't, so obviously that cannot
Speaker 2: be true, but nice try Willie. Uh. Now. The other
Speaker 2: the other guy I just wanted to give a shout
Speaker 2: out to is my good friend Gil's neighbor, Antonio Pierce.
Speaker 2: Mister mister Piers, he really has some thoughts on fourth down. Now.
Speaker 2: We went over this two weeks ago on the fourth
Speaker 2: down and four that went the fourth and and I
Speaker 2: decided to kick to go from twenty to twelve to
Speaker 2: twenty to fifteen. I believe that was in the Rams game.
Speaker 2: And then last week did me a favor because he
Speaker 2: gave me back the money he stole from me on
Speaker 2: that nonsense. I had the Raiders team total under three
Speaker 2: and a half third quarter. Yes, at Rivers you can
Speaker 2: actually bet the third quarter team totals, and I bet
Speaker 2: the Raiders under three and a half team total in
Speaker 2: the quarter they it was seventeen ten and a half.
Speaker 2: At this point it was seventeen to thirteen, So any
Speaker 2: more points by the Raiders in the third quarter and
Speaker 2: I'm going to lose. And mister Mahomes gets the ball tipped,
Speaker 2: it's intercepted. The Raiders bring it back to the one
Speaker 2: yard line, and I am like, okay, well I lost
Speaker 2: that one for sure, because there's no way the Raiders
Speaker 2: aren't going to get at least three points here. First
Speaker 2: down nothing, second down nothing, third down, a loss of
Speaker 2: three and now it's fourth and goal at either the
Speaker 2: three or four yard line, and Antonio Pierce decides to
Speaker 2: go for it. Now, by the way, I don't really
Speaker 2: have an opinion one way of the other, but it
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. Now you're gonna go for it
Speaker 2: in the third quarter down seventeen thirteen, when in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter down twenty two, it just makes no sense.
Speaker 2: It's almost as if he did it just as a
Speaker 2: response to all the heat he took, you know, the
Speaker 2: week before. I don't know what you guys would think
Speaker 2: about that. But how you divine what Antonio Pierce is
Speaker 2: going to do on fourth O, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Antonio Pierce is in like the Hall of Fame for
Speaker 4: the for the clown of the week here, the bozo
Speaker 4: of the week or whatever it's called here on the megapod.
Speaker 4: He's already in the Hall of fame with some of
Speaker 4: the decisions that he has certainly made this season.
Speaker 3: I mean you you can see what's happening, though, right,
Speaker 3: you can see what's happening. He's being way too conservative.
Speaker 3: He did it in the Charger game week one where
Speaker 3: he punts what fourth and two from the plus four.
Speaker 6: And then he keeps the field goal.
Speaker 3: So with seven minutes ago, yeah, exactly, So he's being
Speaker 3: criticized for being too conservative.
Speaker 6: He here's it all week.
Speaker 3: He gets back to him and he goes the other way.
Speaker 3: He says, you know, I'm not You're not gonna criticize
Speaker 3: me this week for being too conservative. I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: for it. So it feels like I'm.
Speaker 4: Gonna be Brandon stan He's gonna be random.
Speaker 2: I thank him anyways for going forward to not getting
Speaker 2: it because that got my Raiders bet home. So thank
Speaker 2: you Antonio for your you know, incredibleness. Okay, as far
Speaker 2: as tonight goes, does anybody have any First of all,
Speaker 2: does anybody have a pick that's going to be using
Speaker 2: tonight's game on the spread or the total?
Speaker 5: I do not. Okay, I did bet this. I did
Speaker 5: bet this game.
Speaker 4: I won't use it for Megapod purposes, but I did
Speaker 4: bet the Jets Jets Jets Jets at pick him earlier
Speaker 4: this week, and I would lay I would actually lay
Speaker 4: a little bit small money line. And it's not really
Speaker 4: a backing of the Jets because we have no idea
Speaker 4: where this is going from here, and this could even
Speaker 4: go further south than it already has. You know, they
Speaker 4: hadn't been able to really generate a push in the
Speaker 4: running game. The offensive line I think has been a
Speaker 4: big disappointment. Aaron has actually been okay the last couple starts,
Speaker 4: but he's still obviously far from what he was and
Speaker 4: you know, he's in the eighteenth fairway on the back
Speaker 4: nine of his career here. So you know, I don't
Speaker 4: think that the Jets are all of a sudden going
Speaker 4: to turn it around, but I think in this spot,
Speaker 4: I think that they can get the win because if
Speaker 4: you remember last year, CJ. Stroud ten of twenty three
Speaker 4: for ninety one yards and took four sacks against this
Speaker 4: Jets defense, and that was with Nico Collins. We know
Speaker 4: that the offense for Houston has really taken a downswing,
Speaker 4: I think without Niko. Despite the fact that CJ. Stroud
Speaker 4: has good splits at home, very poor splits on the road.
Speaker 5: We know not only Collins is out. We know Stefan
Speaker 5: Diggs is out.
Speaker 4: Early down success rate, the Texans are near the bottom
Speaker 4: of the league, even though Joe Mixon is healthy. They
Speaker 4: were able to somewhat run the ball last week, even
Speaker 4: though I questioned that play calling by Bobby Slowick. They
Speaker 4: should have ran the ball much earlier against the Colts
Speaker 4: defense that really been gashed against the run all year.
Speaker 4: This is just, you know, the Jets got to get
Speaker 4: that stink off of losing to the Patriots on Sunday.
Speaker 4: I think it's probably a good thing that they're on
Speaker 4: a short week and they've been getting crapped on in
Speaker 4: the national media all week long. So I did play
Speaker 4: the Jets at a pick, and I would still lay
Speaker 4: money line anything less than three. Also, if you like
Speaker 4: a prop, here CJ Stroud under twenty and a half
Speaker 4: pass completions. For what I said before, I do expect
Speaker 4: the Jets defense have a good effort tonight, and Ciege
Speaker 4: if you saw the game in Green Bay two weeks ago,
Speaker 4: he's been horrible on the road. Didn't even have one
Speaker 4: hundred yards passing. So I think this Houston teams a
Speaker 4: little bit bit.
Speaker 5: Of a biger. I think the Jets get the win.
Speaker 2: I would just I don't want any part of Houston tonight.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can get you up enough
Speaker 2: to go with the Jets. I will say that Garrett
Speaker 2: Wilson seems to be a huge part of the game
Speaker 2: plan and every single week the last four weeks just
Speaker 2: having gigantic games. So you might want to look at
Speaker 2: his catchers or his yards. Willy, do you have any
Speaker 2: thoughts about this game?
Speaker 3: Just to lean towards the Jets. But I will be
Speaker 3: using Houston on some teasers. I don't know if I'll
Speaker 3: use it for this week. The teaser on the megapop,
Speaker 3: I have bet Houston teasers.
Speaker 2: Okay, so nobody has nobody has any official picks on
Speaker 2: tonight's game, and I believe we can now move into
Speaker 2: the picks for the week with Wes going first.
Speaker 4: Okay, first pick, I'm going to go with actually a
Speaker 4: late game on Sunday. I'm going to go with the
Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers plus three and a half. There is
Speaker 4: some three minus twenty. There are still some three and
Speaker 4: a halves out there. Of course, it hasn't been announced
Speaker 4: necessarily that Love is going to play. I expect that
Speaker 4: he is going to go here, but this is kind
Speaker 4: of just maybe you know the top of the market in.
Speaker 2: The last before you go, I'm sorry, Wes, before you
Speaker 2: go any farther, Willy, We me and Willy have to
Speaker 2: determine what line to give you because the way we
Speaker 2: do this on the mega part, if you remember, is
Speaker 2: what's the most what's the most normal number? Willie? What
Speaker 2: do you have for that?
Speaker 3: I'm seeing a dead split between three and a half
Speaker 3: and three minus one twenty, so I have no problem
Speaker 3: giving it to him.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're giving you packers plus three and a half.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for interrupting you, but go ahead continue, Wes.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Well.
Speaker 5: What I was going to say, and I'll go on
Speaker 5: Detroit side.
Speaker 4: First, of course, we all saw them beat the Titans
Speaker 4: fifty two to fourteen. Imagine that you beat a team
Speaker 4: fifty two to fourteen and get out gained by over
Speaker 4: two hundred yards. And that's exactly what happened, second fewest
Speaker 4: yards by a team and a fifty plus point outing
Speaker 4: in NFL history. Because they had they had the punt return,
Speaker 4: they had another punt return that wasn't for a touchdown
Speaker 4: but got them like into the red zone. The Titans
Speaker 4: had a bunch of turnovers on short fields, so you know,
Speaker 4: kind of a misleading final there. But I don't think
Speaker 4: that we could say, oh, Detroit's overrated. Detroit is very good.
Speaker 4: I just think that they're at the top of the market.
Speaker 4: Now you've got Jared Goff playing outdoors for the first
Speaker 4: time all season. Might be some weather up up there
Speaker 4: in Lambeau. I think the Packers defensively have really improved
Speaker 4: this year. If you look, they forced nineteen turnovers in
Speaker 4: eight games. So this is a team that's very opportunity.
Speaker 4: We know Jared Goff, those home those indoor outdoor splits
Speaker 4: have not been pretty really dating back to his career
Speaker 4: when he starred in LA with the Rams.
Speaker 5: I don't like this Detroit defense.
Speaker 4: They don't get as much of a pass rush unless
Speaker 4: they blitz clearly. Without Aiden Hutchinson. Green Bay very good
Speaker 4: at protecting the passers, So I think that secondary is vulnerable,
Speaker 4: and I think Love can make plays down the field
Speaker 4: even if Love doesn't play by the way. You know,
Speaker 4: Malik Willis, I don't want to say, but you know,
Speaker 4: buy all the way in and buy all the stock
Speaker 4: on the former quarterback from Liberty. But Malik Willis hadn't
Speaker 4: been bad. He's been good every time he's played so
Speaker 4: far this year. And Matt Lafleur is put together the
Speaker 4: right game plan for his skill set. Lafleur, by the way,
Speaker 4: twenty four and eleven against the number as an underdog,
Speaker 4: I think that's like sixty nine percent. So I think
Speaker 4: getting three in the hook here with the Packers. If
Speaker 4: Jordan Love was obviously cleared, this might be like Packers
Speaker 4: plus one or Packers pick. I think at least, so
Speaker 4: give me green Bay at home on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Okay, so West takes green Bay plus three and a half.
Speaker 2: As Dan Campbell would say, I don't know what the
Speaker 2: hell you're thinking about. We're gonna bring all the wings,
Speaker 2: We're gonna bring all the running backs, and I don't
Speaker 2: even think if you got Jordan Love we can stop
Speaker 2: that Guylake. Well, let's take that. I got a game
Speaker 2: ball here for somebody anyways. So that's what Dan Campbell
Speaker 2: would say to your pick West. But good luck with
Speaker 2: your plus three and a half. If I don't do
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell, people get upset. Anyways. Not my first pick
Speaker 2: for the week will be and again it's a very
Speaker 2: difficult week, as it seems to be all every week
Speaker 2: here in the NFL. I'm gonna go, what do you
Speaker 2: have Willie for the Giants game side in total? Please?
Speaker 3: Giants looking at mostly split between forty four and forty
Speaker 3: four and a half and the spread is mostly four.
Speaker 2: Okay, would you say forty four is fair?
Speaker 6: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna watch crossboard.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go over forty four with the New
Speaker 2: York g Men and the Washington Commandos and this. If
Speaker 2: you remember, the first game between these two was a
Speaker 2: twenty one to eighteen game. Giants didn't have a field
Speaker 2: goal kicker, so they had to go for two every
Speaker 2: time when they got their touchdowns. That's why they ended
Speaker 2: up with eighteen. The Redskins or the Commanders did not
Speaker 2: punt that game, got seven field goals and won the
Speaker 2: game twenty one to eighteen. There was a gigantic amount
Speaker 2: of offense in this game. They were going up and
Speaker 2: down the field. It's amazingly only got the thirty nine.
Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a lot of offense again.
Speaker 2: I didn't think that the New York Giants defense, especially
Speaker 2: this past week against Pittsburgh looked very good at all.
Speaker 2: The Steelers were running it on them, Pickens was getting passes,
Speaker 2: you know, Russell Wilson was doing whatever he wanted. So
Speaker 2: I think the Giants are going to give up points
Speaker 2: to what I think, you know in The Commanders is
Speaker 2: an excellent offense. I was watching the Chase Daniel thing
Speaker 2: on Twitter where he goes over about ten plays of
Speaker 2: a quarterback and shows that what the progressions are and
Speaker 2: who he's supposed to look for and who's open and everything,
Speaker 2: and I don't know, really, did you see that? Did
Speaker 2: you watch that that I sent you that Chase Daniel
Speaker 2: thing off? Anyways, it really shows that Jade and Daniels
Speaker 2: is going to be an unbelievable quarterback, which we already
Speaker 2: kind of know, but you could see it from the
Speaker 2: film even better. So I'm just incredibly impressed with that
Speaker 2: Washington offense. And you know, so I think they're going
Speaker 2: to get their points. On the other side. You know,
Speaker 2: the Giants have had some real garbagee games on offense
Speaker 2: and then they've had some other where they look pretty good.
Speaker 2: They look pretty good in Pittsburgh, I mean, other than
Speaker 2: the fact they couldn't block what you know the running
Speaker 2: back ran if I forget what that guy's name is,
Speaker 2: he's a backup running back, ran for like one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty yards, and then you know they got neighbors.
Speaker 2: They can move the ball at times, and I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm still not a believer yet on this Commander's defense.
Speaker 2: So to me, I think we could see some points here.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go over forty four g men against
Speaker 2: the Commanders, Willie your first pick.
Speaker 3: I'm also going to go with a total and it
Speaker 3: is a fan favorite here of this megapod that is
Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans. But I'm going to go under what
Speaker 3: are we looking at thirty eight here? Patriots Titans eight?
Speaker 2: I see thirty eight. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just think both teams, both coaches going to this
Speaker 3: game thinking the only way we lose is if we
Speaker 3: screw it up, and surely Will Levis is capable of
Speaker 3: screwing it up. But this Titans defense, I think is
Speaker 3: still underrated, still second in the league in yards for
Speaker 3: play allowed. And I think Brissette was probably playing here
Speaker 3: for New England a good low variance under quarterback where
Speaker 3: he's not going to make big plays, He's not going
Speaker 3: to turn the ball over, he's going to keep them
Speaker 3: and you know, thirty manageable and they're going to punt
Speaker 3: and play field position. So to me, this is, you know,
Speaker 3: an ugly sixteen to thirteen type of game unless there
Speaker 3: is a rash of turnovers and turnovers leading to points,
Speaker 3: which is always possible with the Titans and with Levis.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go under here. Thirty eight Patriots Titans under.
Speaker 3: So Rudolph is not playing, It's back to Levis. Now,
Speaker 3: who the fucking keep up at this point?
Speaker 2: Well, last week, Rudolph, I'm just wondering if you know
Speaker 2: something by saying Levis, or you're saying that because Rudolph
Speaker 2: played against the Lions in the last time. I'm just wondering.
Speaker 3: Last I saw it was TVD. It doesn't change my handicap.
Speaker 3: I like it better with Rudolph.
Speaker 4: He's low.
Speaker 3: Varian Swier No, he threw a pick early in that
Speaker 3: game last week. But either way, I think this is
Speaker 3: this is one that can only go over with turnovers
Speaker 3: leading to points.
Speaker 6: So I'm going under here.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not saying that the handicaps should change. I
Speaker 2: was just wondering if you knew something there because of
Speaker 2: You know, I thought that the other guy was a starter. Now,
Speaker 2: but okay, now I'll give Gil's pick. Gil our fearless leader.
Speaker 2: He is three megapod picks. His first one is a
Speaker 2: team that comes out of a very scary, eerie city
Speaker 2: called the Cleveland Bronnie's the Cleveland Brianni's just one hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty miles away. How much what are they getting there?
Speaker 2: Do you guys have him at plus one?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, Gill's first pick is Cleveland Brianni's plus one. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna see a half.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say, I see more. One and
Speaker 5: a half's out there too.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we'll give We'll give Gilly the Browns plus
Speaker 2: one and a half. I'm gonna assume he liked what
Speaker 2: he saw with Jameis Winston, who made the Browns look
Speaker 2: like a real football team last week. And I don't
Speaker 2: know what he thinks about the Chargers. What would you
Speaker 2: guys say as the reason why Gilly would like the
Speaker 2: Browns plus one and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just the upgrade with Winston, the fact that in New
Speaker 3: York Talk, you're turning the calendar in November, you're an
Speaker 3: LA team playing in Cleveland where it could be a
Speaker 3: little chilly, little windy and just a bump you you
Speaker 3: get from Winston by the way to clean up the
Speaker 3: Titans point.
Speaker 6: This was Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Levis Listen is questionable if he's good to go whole play,
Speaker 3: but we're not going to know until Sunday, so again
Speaker 3: we're not really sure.
Speaker 4: I'll add one thing on Cleveland too, if I can.
Speaker 4: They did go to kenon Dorsey as the play caller
Speaker 4: last week. Stefanski finally gave up the play calling responsibilities,
Speaker 4: and you.
Speaker 5: Know, they were better. They were better last week.
Speaker 4: I think it was the quarterback with the upgrade with
Speaker 4: Jamis and then getting a little bit healthier on the
Speaker 4: offensive line. But you know, Ken Dorsey before he got
Speaker 4: fired the season before Buffalo was like second in offensive Dboa,
Speaker 4: so he wasn't like a horrible play caller. It just
Speaker 4: didn't work out the season following, so that at least
Speaker 4: is an upgrade on the Cleveland side.
Speaker 2: The other thing I would say is that the Chargers
Speaker 2: seemed to get sometimes can't block for Herbert. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you guys have noticed this as well, but
Speaker 2: they seem to take a lot of drive killing sacks
Speaker 2: where Herbert just doesn't have the time to throw. So
Speaker 2: that could be a problem in Cleveland, you know, against
Speaker 2: the line that can get to the quarterback sometimes. So anyways,
Speaker 2: that's that's Gilly's first pick. Now, since we're doing that
Speaker 2: the snake around, Gilly gets his second pick, and his
Speaker 2: second pick, Gil Alexander will go with the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 2: and let's see what the line is in that I
Speaker 2: see nines? Is that what you guys see?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, So Gilly's gonna go with the Ravens minus the
Speaker 2: nine against the against the Denver Broncos. I'm gonna assume
Speaker 2: he's gonna he's doing this because he thinks that Bo
Speaker 2: Nicks has beaten up on some teams that were just
Speaker 2: not really ready for prime time. And it's not like
Speaker 2: Denver's doing anything on offense against real teams. They do
Speaker 2: have a good defense, but it's not like they really are,
Speaker 2: you know, a good team. They've just been beating up
Speaker 2: some bad teams. I would assume, And that's his thought
Speaker 2: process on that. What do you guys think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you get Baltimore in a bad mood coming
Speaker 3: off a loss, and you know, at home I could
Speaker 3: certainly see a bounce back spot for Baltimore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, Lamar historically has not been I think,
Speaker 4: a really profitable favorite, as a big favorite, as a
Speaker 4: small favorite, or a dog.
Speaker 5: He's like the one of the best in the business.
Speaker 4: But you know, this might be an angry Ravens bunch
Speaker 4: off off that Browns game.
Speaker 5: And just because I thought that they had so many high.
Speaker 4: Leverage games in a row that maybe the energy wasn't
Speaker 4: quite there early on last week, and you clearly had
Speaker 4: a motivated Cleveland team that I think really loves Jamis Winston.
Speaker 4: He's very popular in that locker room, and they were
Speaker 4: absolutely motivated. So you know, I could see Ravens maybe
Speaker 4: first half. By the way Lamar Jackson in the first
Speaker 4: half against the number in his career fifty four to
Speaker 4: twenty nine to two, that is sixty five percent. So
Speaker 4: Ravens when they come out, they usually get off to
Speaker 4: a good start at home.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's probably why Gilly likes the Ravens minus nine.
Speaker 2: I did forget one other thing that I wanted to
Speaker 2: talk about, as far as the dumbbells of the National
Speaker 2: Football League. But the guy I actually and this feeds
Speaker 2: into my one of my in game plays. It was
Speaker 2: seven to seven in the Buccaneer game. We've all noticed
Speaker 2: that the Buccaneers are a great over team this year.
Speaker 2: They're scoring a lot, they're giving up a lot. It
Speaker 2: was seven to seven and I got over thirty and
Speaker 2: a half first half in that Vike Falcons against the
Speaker 2: Buccaneers game, the Buccaneers guy hits a long pass and
Speaker 2: I forget who the receiver was, but he's running down
Speaker 2: the sidelines. I'm sorry. The Falcons guy hits a long pass.
Speaker 2: He's running down the sidelines and the guy's about to
Speaker 2: try to tackle him, and he's handling the ball like
Speaker 2: a loaf of bread. At the at the one yard line,
Speaker 2: it looks like he fumbles. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys saw this play, but it looked like he fumbled
Speaker 2: and they didn't have an angle to overturn it, so
Speaker 2: they gave him the touchdown. Because if they hadn't give
Speaker 2: him the touchdown, I would have gone apoplectic. But it
Speaker 2: sure looked to me like he fumbled at the half
Speaker 2: yard line. And there is just an epic epidemic of
Speaker 2: these guys who decide to stop running before they're in
Speaker 2: the end zone and get lack of days ago and
Speaker 2: fumble the ball at the one yard line. There was
Speaker 2: some other game I believe in college or something that
Speaker 2: happened recently with the same thing. Do you guys remember
Speaker 2: who that was in the in the Atlanta game?
Speaker 3: Pits?
Speaker 2: I think, okay, it's Pits. Yeah, But and would you
Speaker 2: agree with me that that was a fumble actually at
Speaker 2: the one yard line? Yes, okay. So anyways, I got
Speaker 2: very lucky on that endgame. I just wanted to get
Speaker 2: that in there. I'd totally forgotten about that idiocy. Okay,
Speaker 2: well your second pick, we're.
Speaker 3: Split here between one and one and a half on
Speaker 3: Arizona I get Do I get one?
Speaker 2: See Arnolds is yeah? Minus I see minus ones a
Speaker 2: lot with you see a lot of minus ones?
Speaker 4: Yeah, mostly one. There's I think about three or four.
Speaker 4: One and a half's out there though, all right, DraftKings,
Speaker 4: it's both one and a half.
Speaker 5: Well, we're going to give you one.
Speaker 2: We're going to give you one.
Speaker 6: I will lay the point with Arizona.
Speaker 3: I just I was not impressed, like I mentioned, with
Speaker 3: the way Chicago's coaching staff close out the game. And
Speaker 3: how about after the game where eber flues. Basically, Blew
Speaker 3: blamed everybody but himself. He said, well that Pastor McLaurin
Speaker 3: to set up to hail Mary didn't matter. It was
Speaker 3: always gonna come down to a Hail Mary. And you
Speaker 3: know we've got to defend it better.
Speaker 6: Everybody was under the.
Speaker 3: Bus except him. I don't know how a poorly coach
Speaker 3: team bounces back. And wait, if you look at Arizona,
Speaker 3: I know they're a strange team. I know they've won
Speaker 3: some close games, but in the division that's wide open,
Speaker 3: I think they're a wide because man, they've played a tough.
Speaker 6: Tough schedule.
Speaker 3: Bill Barnwell had this tweet about, you know how what
Speaker 3: a tough schedule they played in what easy schedule they
Speaker 3: have coming up. They've played the forty nine Ers, the Bills,
Speaker 3: the Packers, the Commanders, they played a healthy Miami team
Speaker 3: that had to This is an Arizona team that's played
Speaker 3: up through a gauntlet here. So I think they're a
Speaker 3: little underrated. I don't like this Bears coaching staff. I
Speaker 3: think Gannon is a good coach. And by the way,
Speaker 3: Gannon at twenty two to one, if you think Arizona
Speaker 3: can win the division, maybe not a bad little investment.
Speaker 6: But I will lay the point here with the cards.
Speaker 2: I have that as my second pick too, really, and
Speaker 2: so while I don't usually like doing the same thing
Speaker 2: as the other people, I'm gonna go with Arizona too. Look,
Speaker 2: this is also a negative Bears play for me. Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't believe in the Bears just because they won
Speaker 2: a couple of games against crapowl at teams. I'm not
Speaker 2: a Caleb william fan, a Caleb williamsent. Maybe he will
Speaker 2: become something great. I mean, I wasn't a Jordan Love
Speaker 2: fan in the beginning, and he was pretty crappy, and
Speaker 2: then he turned it around and I've changed my tune
Speaker 2: on Jordan Love. But I am not a believer yet
Speaker 2: in Caleb Williams just because you beat the Rams at
Speaker 2: home twenty four eighteen, you beat Carolina at home thirty six,
Speaker 2: you beat Jacksonville in London thirty five sixteen, and then
Speaker 2: you go to Washington and didn't really play really well offensively.
Speaker 2: To me, I haven't seen anything from the Bears that says, hey,
Speaker 2: we're a really good offensive team. Granted they're doing it
Speaker 2: with the defense, and their defense has been good, but
Speaker 2: you know Arizona. If Arizona's on their game, they're moving
Speaker 2: it against tough teams too. Like you said that, their
Speaker 2: schedule has been pretty tough. And you know who's more
Speaker 2: terrifying to bet against than Kyler Murray running around in
Speaker 2: that pocket and he gets free and look out. You know.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Arizona minus one with you, Willie.
Speaker 2: I just don't believe in this Bears team just yet.
Speaker 2: And you know, like I said, I think Arizona is
Speaker 2: a little bit better than people think. So I'll take
Speaker 2: Arizona minus one.
Speaker 5: Wes all Right.
Speaker 4: For my number two pick, I am going to go
Speaker 4: with the Dallas Cowboys plus three at Atlanta.
Speaker 5: Dallas, by the way, it comes off short weeks.
Speaker 4: Sunday Night Football had a chance at the end and
Speaker 4: then three straight in completions, and then San Francisco just
Speaker 4: had a massive third quarter and pulled away from Dallas
Speaker 4: last week.
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna I was down.
Speaker 4: I'm down on Dallas anyway because I have their underseason wins.
Speaker 4: So it's not like I think that they're gonna rebound
Speaker 4: and get hot. But I do like them a little
Speaker 4: bit in this situation here, just because I don't think
Speaker 4: Atlanta really in terms of what they bring defensively, other
Speaker 4: than the fact that that they've had some turnover look
Speaker 4: really helps that really I think can hinder what Dallas
Speaker 4: wants to do in the passing game. Atlanta, by the way,
Speaker 4: is thirtieth in pressure rate, so they do not get
Speaker 4: to the quarterback. So Dak is gonna have plenty of
Speaker 4: time to throw the football, just can't turn it over
Speaker 4: like he's done a little bit this season. Dallas, we
Speaker 4: know can't run the ball, so they're gonna be throw
Speaker 4: heavy anyway. And you know past Eavy game script, their
Speaker 4: defense has really struggled Dallas twenty ninth and Dboa. See
Speaker 4: if they get Micah Parsons back or Deron Bland this week.
Speaker 4: They've both been listed as quiet, So keep in mind
Speaker 4: on the injury reports. Atlanta, they're putting up a lot
Speaker 4: of points and Kirk Cousins is playing well.
Speaker 5: Now they're getting a little bit.
Speaker 4: They got to break last week against Tampa Bay, who
Speaker 4: didn't have Godwin or Evans and yet still put up
Speaker 4: twenty six and put up well over four hundred yards
Speaker 4: on the Atlanta defense. That's why you see this total
Speaker 4: as high as fifty two in the market, but I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go with Dallas here at plus three. You know,
Speaker 4: kind of what do they call it? Catch the falling
Speaker 4: knife here? And that's what I'm gonna do with the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I kind of like that over in that game too.
Speaker 2: I didn't make it as one of my picks. But
Speaker 2: like you were saying, Wes, you know, but Dallas can't
Speaker 2: rush the passer. I mean, Atlanta can't rush the passer.
Speaker 2: Dallas has no defense. So it's like, who's gonna stop
Speaker 2: who in this game? You know, it doesn't really look
Speaker 2: like there's gonna be a lot of defense. Okay, So Wes,
Speaker 2: you get a second pick. This is your third pick overall,
Speaker 2: and who do you like in your.
Speaker 5: Third Yeah, my third pick.
Speaker 4: And I missed a little bit of the number on
Speaker 4: this because I think they got somewhat friendly injury report
Speaker 4: earlier in the week. I'm going to go with the
Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks plus one and a half. That's what it
Speaker 4: That's what it mostly is out there. I missed the
Speaker 4: two and a half and a lot of it I
Speaker 4: think was injuries. I think DK metcalf. It looks like
Speaker 4: the prognosis is good. That he is going to play.
Speaker 4: We know that Woolan is back, Witherspoon might be able
Speaker 4: to go to he was listed as questionable, So that's
Speaker 4: why I think it dropped. But this was two and
Speaker 4: a half on the adjustment, of course, the adjustment from
Speaker 4: the look at being that the Rams beat Minnesota, they
Speaker 4: got Cup and they got Pukinakua back, so they beat
Speaker 4: Minnesota and showed a little life. Meanwhile, Seattle got absolutely
Speaker 4: humiliated at home by Buffalo. That wasn't even a game
Speaker 4: thirty one to ten. But if you look at the numbers,
Speaker 4: Buffalo was minus three last week at Seattle and the
Speaker 4: Rams ended up being on the open minus two and
Speaker 4: a half. So it's like the Rams are only a
Speaker 4: half point worse than Buffalo. I didn't think so, so
Speaker 4: I thought that that was a little bit of an
Speaker 4: overreaction just on one week of results.
Speaker 5: I do like Seattle here.
Speaker 4: I think that the Rams defense still is very very
Speaker 4: young and do not have a lot of stars or
Speaker 4: real playmakers on defense for those guys. So I think
Speaker 4: Seattle can get what they want. I fully expect that
Speaker 4: they're going to try to establish that running game because
Speaker 4: they couldn't do it last week with Kenneth Walker because
Speaker 4: they got behind immediately, so they had to go really
Speaker 4: a past heavy game script. So look, the Rams at
Speaker 4: least have some life with Kup and Nakua back. But
Speaker 4: I'm going to trust Mike McDonald here, who I think
Speaker 4: is obviously a really good defensive coach, was the DC
Speaker 4: at Baltimore and now in his first year as head
Speaker 4: coach in Seattle. So I just thought that this number
Speaker 4: the market. It was a little bit of an overreaction
Speaker 4: from the look aheadline based on one week of results.
Speaker 5: So give me the Seahawks plus one and a half
Speaker 5: at home.
Speaker 2: Like that one too. It sounds like you like that
Speaker 2: one too, Willly. I like Seattle too. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to use Seattle, but I couldn't agree with more with it.
Speaker 2: By the way, Seattle was inside the five yard line
Speaker 2: a number of times and couldn't get touched over it.
Speaker 2: That game could have been a completely different game, you know.
Speaker 2: But so I agree with that. I think we're gonna
Speaker 2: see that. It's almost like you're you're buying the Rams
Speaker 2: really high here. If you like the Rams, you're buying
Speaker 2: Seattle really low here. If you like Seattle, you know,
Speaker 2: as far as the as far as like the in
Speaker 2: season kind of fluctuation to me, So I kind of
Speaker 2: really like that pick of Seattle for my third pick.
Speaker 2: I'm really having a hard time here coming up with
Speaker 2: my third pick. But I guess I'm gonna go with
Speaker 2: the I'm gonna go with the Minnesota Vikings. I think
Speaker 2: that it's is it five and a half? Is that
Speaker 2: what you guys have? The Vikings at five and a half? Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Vikings minus five and a half.
Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about the seven and one
Speaker 2: against the spread Colts, and West gave us a nice
Speaker 2: little inside look into why the Colts organization is a shambles,
Speaker 2: and you know, I agree Minnesota. You know, after starting
Speaker 2: the season red hot has kind of come back to
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold Earth that we probably thought was going to happen.
Speaker 2: But it's not like the Colts defense is that good.
Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of wide receivers are having huge
Speaker 2: games against the Colts, So why can't the Vikings with
Speaker 2: Jefferson have a big game? Also, now you're going Flacco
Speaker 2: is going to have to go into Minnesota. That's not
Speaker 2: the easiest place to play, especially and their defenses is
Speaker 2: pretty good. So I just have a feeling that the
Speaker 2: you know, the Colts are going to come back to
Speaker 2: Earth on the spread, you know, as well as in
Speaker 2: the season here, and the Vikings kind of you know,
Speaker 2: could be on the upswing again after two subpar performances.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to go with the Vikings minus the
Speaker 2: five and a half and hope that the Vikings crowd
Speaker 2: and defense keeps Flacco down.
Speaker 3: Willie your third, Yeah, not to be repetitive, but I
Speaker 3: am going to go with the Seahawks plus a point
Speaker 3: and a half for all the reasons Wes mentioned, and
Speaker 3: you just it's a bi low spot and I mean
Speaker 3: the look aheadline on this was Seattle by a field goal,
Speaker 3: So you're talking about a major, major adjustment based on
Speaker 3: one data point, which was kind of a fogie game
Speaker 3: last week in Seattle with a couple of funny bounces
Speaker 3: in the game got away from Seattle. So I'm not
Speaker 3: sure the Rams and fixed all their issues. I know
Speaker 3: they look good on Thursday night, and I think that's
Speaker 3: why you're seeing this because when you have a really
Speaker 3: good game in a standalone game, you know, the public
Speaker 3: takes notice. Especially last Thursday, there was no World Series on.
Speaker 3: Everyone was watching Vikings Rams and the Rams did look good.
Speaker 3: So I think you're overpaying for the Rams here. I'll
Speaker 3: take Seattle plus point a half.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Willy and Wes are both on Seattle plus
Speaker 2: one and a half.
Speaker 6: Wes.
Speaker 2: Before we get to Gill's third pick, just like to
Speaker 2: ask you as a Indiana insider. Obviously the Indiana Hoo's
Speaker 2: your football having an incredible year, but what do you
Speaker 2: think about we got college basketball starting on November four?
Speaker 2: I believe that's a very important day on the calendar
Speaker 2: and the Indiana Hoosiers in Assembly Hall? Your thoughts about
Speaker 2: that club this year?
Speaker 5: Wes Well, I did get a look at them.
Speaker 4: Actually, last Sunday they played in afternoon exhibition down at Tennessee.
Speaker 5: Who is you know?
Speaker 4: I believe preseason number twelve and Indiana got out of
Speaker 4: grinder win sixty six to sixty two. If keep an
Speaker 4: eye on the name Miles Rice. He's the new point
Speaker 4: guard who transfers into Washington State. This kid's a real player.
Speaker 4: And Indiana just having a better backcourt with Miles Rice
Speaker 4: and Canaan Carlisle, who transfers in from Stanford. I think
Speaker 4: they're going to challenge for the Big Ten title. Look,
Speaker 4: this is a very portal heavy team. They don't they
Speaker 4: have one freshman recruit, but they added Umar Bollo, the
Speaker 4: big man out of Arizona. They also have Mackenzie and
Speaker 4: Baco returning in league renew and Trey Galloway. Galloway might
Speaker 4: miss the first couple games coming back from an injury,
Speaker 4: but should be right toward around Thanksgiving. But they're gonna challenge,
Speaker 4: I think for the Big Ten title. I think Purdue
Speaker 4: is the rightful favorite.
Speaker 5: Even though they lose ed.
Speaker 4: They still bring their backcourt back and their power forward
Speaker 4: back Kaufman ren But the Big Ten, it's not like
Speaker 4: last year.
Speaker 5: Guys were like Perdue.
Speaker 4: You clearly knew that this was a final four team
Speaker 4: returning all five starters, and then they eventually made the
Speaker 4: national championship and got beat by a really good Yukon club.
Speaker 5: But it's wide open.
Speaker 4: I think Purdue Indiana keep an eye on Ohio State.
Speaker 4: They could be very much improved this year. Illinois will
Speaker 4: be solid, but there's a lot of roster influx within
Speaker 4: this conference, and of course UCLA. Of the four Pac
Speaker 4: twelve teams that come into the Big ten. I think
Speaker 4: UCLA probably of those four, is the most ready to
Speaker 4: be competitive at the top, and then Rutgers is gonna
Speaker 4: be a lot of fun to watch. I don't know
Speaker 4: how good they're gonna be, but Rutgers, by the way,
Speaker 4: are probably going to have two of the top three
Speaker 4: picks in next year's NBA draft two to one, and
Speaker 4: done's Dylan Harper Ron harper Son.
Speaker 5: And also Ace Bailey. So Rutgers kind of going to
Speaker 5: be fun to watch. We'll see if those freshmen and
Speaker 5: brace Steve Bichael's defense.
Speaker 2: Though a very good Big ten. Quick conference update for
Speaker 2: US Indiana on the Ken Palm ratings currently preseason is
Speaker 2: number thirty nine, two slots back from my favorite team,
Speaker 2: the University of Pittsburgh Panthers in the eighties.
Speaker 5: That's probably that's probably too low.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be labor to the point here,
Speaker 4: but that's probably too low for Indiana. Now what I
Speaker 4: want to see are they going to shoot more threes? Nobody,
Speaker 4: by the way shot less threes of any power for
Speaker 4: conference than Indiana, and you can't win in modern day
Speaker 4: college day college basketball doing that. So I think that
Speaker 4: they're going to open up the offense a little bit.
Speaker 4: We certainly didn't see it though. In the exhibition game.
Speaker 2: Will Will's favorite college team I cannot find on here.
Speaker 2: I believe it's the Fairfield women's team, and I do
Speaker 2: not see it on the twenty twenty five Palmery College
Speaker 2: basketball rankings for some reason. Now why he likes the
Speaker 2: Fairfield women's team, we won't go into that, but I
Speaker 2: will say that as they don't have a ranking on
Speaker 2: Ken Palm. So you know, between me and you, probably
Speaker 2: not a great pick. Okay, So now let's go to
Speaker 2: Gilly's number three pick. Gil Alexander out of the University
Speaker 2: of Tuffs will pick the Arizona Cardinals as well. Wow,
Speaker 2: everybody's on Arizona. First time this year. We have three
Speaker 2: people on the same pick. Arizona minus one Me, Arizona
Speaker 2: minus one Willie, and Arizona minus one Gilly. What does
Speaker 2: that tell you, folks? Unload on the Chicago Bears and
Speaker 2: you will be happy on Sunday night, Because whenever we
Speaker 2: all love one team, it's a bad, bad omen. So
Speaker 2: Arizona minus three for Gilly to complete the trifecta here
Speaker 2: on Arizona. So that's pretty funny that we all like Arizona. Okay.
Speaker 2: So that completes the picks. Now we'll go on to
Speaker 2: the teasers. Teasers from WES. Your best six pointer for
Speaker 2: this week, Wes.
Speaker 4: Okay, first leg, I am going to use what was
Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, the Cleveland Browns one and a half to
Speaker 4: seven and a half, and look low total here, low
Speaker 4: ish total, I should say it about forty three. I
Speaker 4: know the Chargers throwing the ball more, but Cleveland certainly
Speaker 4: has a pulse offensively, and I'm just not all that
Speaker 4: impressed with the Chargers.
Speaker 5: I think the Chargers about a five hundred team.
Speaker 4: I know they're one game over right now, but that's
Speaker 4: kind of what I thought that they were going in
Speaker 4: the season, and that's what I think they're going to remain.
Speaker 4: So Cleveland up to seven and a half and then
Speaker 4: I believe it's mostly seven out there. I'm going to
Speaker 4: tease the Bengals down to one here, from seven to
Speaker 4: one against the Raiders. I just think that, you know,
Speaker 4: the Bengals defense has not been good, so I think
Speaker 4: the Raiders might have some offensive success. But Joe Burrow,
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow has been putting up amazing numbers and the
Speaker 4: Raiders are dead last in the in past coverage grades,
Speaker 4: so I would fully expect hopefully T Higgins is back
Speaker 4: for the Bengals here. But I say the Bengals minus
Speaker 4: one and the Browns plus seven and a half.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's Wes's teaser of the week, Willie your teaser
Speaker 2: of the week.
Speaker 3: I'll use the Texans tonight. I understand why the Jets
Speaker 3: are favored, but I mean, really at the point where
Speaker 3: this two win Jet team is going to win and
Speaker 3: win with margin against a pretty good Textan team. So
Speaker 3: I'll go Texans and I'll double down with Seattle. I
Speaker 3: like ittting seven and a half at home. I would expect,
Speaker 3: if nothing else, that's going to be.
Speaker 6: A close game.
Speaker 3: So I will go And there's a decent amount of
Speaker 3: options this week, but I will go Texans Seahawks.
Speaker 6: Two team teasers.
Speaker 2: Okay, so your two team teaser Texans plus eight, Seattle
Speaker 2: plus seven.
Speaker 5: And a half.
Speaker 2: My two team teaser is going to be similar to Wes's.
Speaker 2: I'm also thinking the Bengals cannot lose to this moribund
Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce squad, So I'm gonna go with the Bengals
Speaker 2: minus the one at home. You know, agreed, They stink
Speaker 2: on defense, but they're not going to lose to the
Speaker 2: Raiders at home. So I'll take the Bengals minus one.
Speaker 2: And then my other pick, I'm going to go with
Speaker 2: Eagles minus one and a half against Jacksonville, which I
Speaker 2: think is just the dumpster fire franchise. Now. They lost
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk for the year, they got injuries all over
Speaker 2: the place. They're just not good. They're not good on defense.
Speaker 2: I hate the coaching. I hate everything about this team.
Speaker 2: Every time I would pick them, I would lose. I'm
Speaker 2: going with the Eagles minus one and a half against
Speaker 2: the Jaguars. I just don't see the Eagles losing. I
Speaker 2: kind of feel like the Eagles aren't a ups swing
Speaker 2: in general playing the last couple of weeks, and we've
Speaker 2: seen the Eagles be kind of a streaky team in
Speaker 2: the past. I believe last year were they ten and
Speaker 2: one in the beginning where they were just not losing
Speaker 2: early in the season, if I remember correctly, and then
Speaker 2: they kind of tailed off late. So they do seem
Speaker 2: to be like kind of front runners when they get going.
Speaker 2: So I'll take Eagles minus one and a half. Gilly
Speaker 2: for his teaser pick, will take the Browns plus what
Speaker 2: do we say, Browns plus seven and a half. So
Speaker 2: he's gonna take the Browns up to plus seven and
Speaker 2: a half and he's gonna put it with the Bengals
Speaker 2: as well, Bengals minus one for all the reasons. Me
Speaker 2: and West both like the Bengals. Okay, so that takes
Speaker 2: care of the teasers. Willy, do you have a favorite
Speaker 2: college basketball team or even though I was teasing about
Speaker 2: the Fairfield women's team, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, living in Yukon, I do enjoy when Yukon's good.
Speaker 3: It's almost like you know you in Connecticut, we don't
Speaker 3: have a pro team. So I thought after the cow
Speaker 3: Goo in years, once he moved on and once it
Speaker 3: was Kevin Oli, I was a man, if you've ever
Speaker 3: been to stories Connecticut, I don't know that will ever
Speaker 3: be back. I don't know you can recruit to Connecticut.
Speaker 3: So I was proven wrong with that. So it is
Speaker 3: fun with you when Ucon's good. So I do root
Speaker 3: for them, and having had some futures on them in
Speaker 3: the last couple of years at various points, it's I've
Speaker 3: enjoyed the Dan Hurley experience.
Speaker 4: Dan Hurley is kicking my alma. I'm sorry to interrupt there.
Speaker 4: Dan Hurley is kicking my alma maters ass in recruiting
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 5: They got a five star freshman this year.
Speaker 4: At Ukon by the way of Liam McNeely, and they
Speaker 4: just get a kid from Greenfield, Indiana, just northeast of
Speaker 4: the city of Indianapolis, a good shooter by the name
Speaker 4: of Brayln Mullins.
Speaker 5: Those used to be like slam dug recruits.
Speaker 4: Rye you were Purdue, but it's not anymore if you
Speaker 4: don't make him a priority.
Speaker 5: And Danny Hurley did, and Yukon's going to be just.
Speaker 4: Fine under Dan Hurley for the next however many years
Speaker 4: he wants it to be.
Speaker 2: I rarely bet futures on teams. I last both of
Speaker 2: the last two years I had in December Yukon twenty
Speaker 2: four to two years ago and Yukon eleven to one
Speaker 2: last year, so I actually was on them. I love
Speaker 2: Danny Hurley. I think he's the best coach in America.
Speaker 2: He's fantastic. So we'll see if they can keep it
Speaker 2: going this year and whether or not if they get
Speaker 2: to the championship game, they can have ratings as good
Speaker 2: as Will's other favorite team, the University of Iowa Ladies basketball,
Speaker 2: who actually out TV rating the men's game this year.
Speaker 2: And if you had told me that ten years ago
Speaker 2: that a women's college basketball game could outrate the championship
Speaker 2: game for the men's I would have told you you're crazy,
Speaker 2: But it actually happened. So anyways, that's a college basketball
Speaker 2: talk here on the megapod. Now we will go to
Speaker 2: our last two questions, which are the which is the
Speaker 2: biggest favorite to lose? And the choices that we have
Speaker 2: are the Saints at seven. We could put the Bills
Speaker 2: in there against Miami, the Ravens nine against the Broncos,
Speaker 2: Bengals seven against the Raiders. We also have seven and
Speaker 2: a half Eagles against Jags, and Chiefs nine against the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2: So wes your most possible biggest favorite to lose.
Speaker 4: I'm actually gonna go with the Buffalo Bills here. You know,
Speaker 4: I know Miami, the market certainly I was on it
Speaker 4: as well. The market came in on Miami. They got
Speaker 4: out to an early ten oz lead on Arizona. You're thinking, Okay,
Speaker 4: this is going to be one way traffic, and then
Speaker 4: it wasn't. In credit Arizona for coming back. You know,
Speaker 4: four and four and at the top of the NFC West.
Speaker 4: Who would have thought that after eight weeks. But I think,
Speaker 4: you know, one a game back for Tua and going
Speaker 4: on the road against Buffalo, who's been a little bit
Speaker 4: more run heavy, where Josh Allen still trying to find
Speaker 4: some trust and his actual receivers. So I debated actually
Speaker 4: between going with Buffalo being as a favorite to lose
Speaker 4: outright and also New Orleans. But I can't do it
Speaker 4: with Carolina. I was dead wrong on that team this year.
Speaker 4: They've just got so many injuries and now they traded
Speaker 4: Deontay Johnson, so they're clearly tanking, and you know they're
Speaker 4: going to give Bryce Young an audition I think, for
Speaker 4: the rest of the year to get his next job.
Speaker 4: But they're clearly trying to go all in for that
Speaker 4: number one pick. So my choice for the favorite to
Speaker 4: lose this week is going to be the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2: Oh that is very funny that you brought up the
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers, because last week Will said after he liked
Speaker 2: the under forty two in that Broncos Carolina I said, hey, Will,
Speaker 2: would you rather have Carolina Panthers team total under fifteen?
Speaker 2: And a half and he said he would and I
Speaker 2: agreed with that. By the time, I didn't bet it
Speaker 2: right then I looked at it pregame and it was
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half against the Broncos last week, and
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, don't do thirteen and a half.
Speaker 2: There's just something that feels dangerous about them getting two
Speaker 2: touchdowns to beat you. So I didn't do it. I
Speaker 2: didn't take I said, look, I missed the fifteen and
Speaker 2: a half team total, I'm not going to do thirteen
Speaker 2: and a half. So I waited. Carolina got a touchdown
Speaker 2: on their first drive to go up seven to nothing.
Speaker 2: After one more Carolina drive, I said to myself, seventeen
Speaker 2: and a half. It sounds crazy. I just don't believe
Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers can get seventeen and a half in
Speaker 2: Denver against a good defense. So I took under seventeen
Speaker 2: and a half and I was in no danger when
Speaker 2: they backdoored it to lose twenty eight to fourteen. Willie,
Speaker 2: did you go down with the with the pregame under
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half or did you at least wait
Speaker 2: and get the over fourteen number.
Speaker 3: I got fourteen, so it was one of those pushes
Speaker 3: that felt like a loss, and I chopped everywhere by
Speaker 3: the time I decided to bet again late to the party.
Speaker 3: On these these team totals are not that readily available,
Speaker 3: you know, three four days out at least some of
Speaker 3: the books I'm looking at, So the best I could
Speaker 3: find was fourteen. I pushed, and uh boy, that was
Speaker 3: a strange end of game from both ends, because usually
Speaker 3: a game like that twenty eight to seven, middle fourth quarter,
Speaker 3: both teams just kind of gentlemen's agreement, Hey, you run
Speaker 3: the ball, we run the ball.
Speaker 6: Let's just both get out of here.
Speaker 3: Sean Payton's like running fake field goals. He's going for
Speaker 3: it on fourth down.
Speaker 6: He was really trying to stick it to Carolina. I
Speaker 6: guess a couple of years ago he didn't get an interview.
Speaker 3: When they had a vacancy, and he was really trying
Speaker 3: to run up the score. And then Carolina gets the
Speaker 3: ball back on their own two when you figure, hey,
Speaker 3: just run a couple draws and you get out of there.
Speaker 3: And Carolina's marching down the field to get rough in
Speaker 3: the passer calls and they punch one in late.
Speaker 6: So very strange ending game scenario. There.
Speaker 2: But obviously it's just another great example and anybody who
Speaker 2: bets obviously knows this. But I'll just say it again,
Speaker 2: don't talk yourself into thirteen and a half. Just don't
Speaker 2: talk yourself into thirteen and a half, because it's gonna
Speaker 2: hurt you if you wait to get the fourteen and
Speaker 2: a half and you might miss the bet. Look, you know,
Speaker 2: had Carolina not scored early, I wouldn't have been able
Speaker 2: to get that seventeen and a half, right, I would
Speaker 2: end up not betting the game. But what's so interesting,
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you guys noticed this also
Speaker 2: on the end game this happened to call also happens
Speaker 2: in the pros. When you have teams that are not
Speaker 2: moving the ball at all early in the game, sometimes
Speaker 2: the team total will rock it down so hard that
Speaker 2: it will go like underneath ten sometimes like and you'll
Speaker 2: see this and you'll think to yourself, well, this team,
Speaker 2: they're three and out four times in another's never they're
Speaker 2: never going to score the whole game. Ten is not
Speaker 2: hard to get, guys, It's just not that hard to get.
Speaker 2: You can accidentally back yourself into ten. And I understand
Speaker 2: why the books are doing it. The books are knowing
Speaker 2: that anybody who's watching this in game is saying to themselves,
Speaker 2: this team's not going to be able to score, and
Speaker 2: they're going to be betting the under. So the books
Speaker 2: want to get that under that that juicy ten number
Speaker 2: or sometimes under thirteen. In the Browns game two weeks ago,
Speaker 2: they had brought it down to twelve and a half
Speaker 2: and I luckily didn't play it, and then Jamis got
Speaker 2: the back door touchdown late. Just be really careful being
Speaker 2: on the opposite side of those what I would call
Speaker 2: key numbers in you know, garbage team total in game stuff,
Speaker 2: because there will be backdoor touchdowns or just accidental touchdowns.
Speaker 2: A turnover can screw you. So just be careful with that.
Speaker 2: And this Carolina Panther game is just such a great
Speaker 2: example of it. Okay, so I West, says Bill Salus Willie.
Speaker 2: Who do you say is the biggest dogger to upset
Speaker 2: a big team?
Speaker 3: This is an unconventional one. I feel like the Chiefs
Speaker 3: are due for a stinker. They've played close in a
Speaker 3: lot of these games. I mean, are they going to
Speaker 3: be twelve thirteen? I know, or a little ways from that,
Speaker 3: but I don't know we're due for kind of a
Speaker 3: Chiefs upset here.
Speaker 6: I'll go with Tampa here.
Speaker 5: I'm betting the Bucks.
Speaker 4: By the way, I'm kind of waiting because I don't
Speaker 4: think that number is gonna move. But I agree with
Speaker 4: will I think that this is kind of like the
Speaker 4: Chiefs have had so many high leverage games, whether they're
Speaker 4: primetime games or division games or rivalry games against like
Speaker 4: Cincy and against Baltimore, against San Francisco, obviously the Super
Speaker 4: Bowl rematch. They get another primetime game here. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: Chiefs don't really get margin very often. Is big favorite.
Speaker 2: So I think on the right track, I think I
Speaker 2: agree with you Willie too. I think the Chiefs could
Speaker 2: Obviously they're not, you know, their big favorites, nine point favorites.
Speaker 2: But it's not like Tampa can't score Tampa can you Now,
Speaker 2: granted they don't have the wide receivers, but they you know,
Speaker 2: it's it still seems like, you know, Baker can throw
Speaker 2: it around the yard. And just like Wes just said,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs don't like the win by a lot, So
Speaker 2: sooner or later, one of these Chiefs not wanting the
Speaker 2: win by a lot is going to bite him the
Speaker 2: ass and they're going to lose the game. Remember the
Speaker 2: Chiefs lost on Christmas Day to the Oakland Raiders. Okay, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, when me Ando were watching in Vegas
Speaker 2: to get could not believe it. I believe the Raiders
Speaker 2: had like four total yards in the game and somehow.
Speaker 2: So these teams can lose from time to time, so
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shying. Haven't lost since exactly, and they
Speaker 2: haven't lot since. Okay, so Gills and Gil's team that
Speaker 2: most out likely to lose. He likes the Eagles to
Speaker 2: lose to Jacksonville. I don't know why, but I guess
Speaker 2: you got to pick somebody. I'm not going to come
Speaker 2: up with what his reasoning is for that, but he
Speaker 2: says Eagles is the biggest favorite to lose. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: the Eagles aren't that great. They could obviously lose, so
Speaker 2: it's not wouldn't be a shock. I mean, Jacksonville did
Speaker 2: play Houston on the road real tight, so there have
Speaker 2: been times where Jacksonville has shown up, so that might
Speaker 2: be why he's thinking that. Okay, our last question is
Speaker 2: what game do you want no part of? You have
Speaker 2: to bet them all, but if you could stay away
Speaker 2: from one game and one game alone, which is the
Speaker 2: one you want absolutely no part of.
Speaker 6: WES.
Speaker 5: I'm going to say the Commanders and the Giants.
Speaker 4: I feel like this is a fade spot against the
Speaker 4: Commanders based on you know that that miracle win, the
Speaker 4: Maryland Miracle. I guess they could call it last week
Speaker 4: against the Bears there in Landover, and I feel like
Speaker 4: four is high. But I wonder about this Giants team
Speaker 4: because I actually played them on Monday night against the Steelers,
Speaker 4: and I don't know if they deserve the cover, but
Speaker 4: you know it was just a special team to play,
Speaker 4: and that's what they did West.
Speaker 2: They did West. They did deserve to cover. They gave
Speaker 2: up for a touchdown they were inside the twenty and fumbled.
Speaker 2: I mean, they deserve to cover the game, there's no doubt.
Speaker 4: But the Steelers do what they do and they went
Speaker 4: on special teams and they've gotten a lot of fortune
Speaker 4: and they keep they keep doing it to me when
Speaker 4: I bet against them.
Speaker 5: But yeah, this is tough for me.
Speaker 4: I think obviously this is a tough spot to lay
Speaker 4: the Commanders on the road, But you got to take
Speaker 4: a Giants team that I think got ten combined points
Speaker 4: in their last two home games, seven against the Bengals
Speaker 4: on Sunday night and then three the following week against Philadelphia.
Speaker 5: So this is my stay away game.
Speaker 3: I have no interest in laying seven on the road
Speaker 3: with the Saints, but the Panthers are just a very
Speaker 3: difficult team to put your money on.
Speaker 6: So Saints Panthers for me.
Speaker 2: I am going to say the game that I want
Speaker 2: no part of is this Lions Packers game, just for
Speaker 2: the mere fact that I agree with what Wes was
Speaker 2: saying about Malik Willis has not been bad. He's been,
Speaker 2: you know, serviceable. I just think that there's such a
Speaker 2: giant difference between love and him that, you know, I
Speaker 2: just want to stay away from that game as far
Speaker 2: as that goes. And Gil his pick for game he
Speaker 2: wants no part of is the Dolphins Bills, and maybe
Speaker 2: because who knows what you're getting with the old Capri
Speaker 2: pants Dolphins, caupri pants Dolphins. Sometimes they play good, sometimes
Speaker 2: they don't. What the hell do you get from this team?
Speaker 2: We have no idea And that's why Gilly Alexander wants
Speaker 2: no part of the game. That was just a quick
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins song for the folks that like that. To
Speaker 2: jam it up in there right before we end it.
Speaker 2: So that's what Gilly says. He doesn't like the capre
Speaker 2: Pants Dolphins game. So that's everything. Wes. Where how can
Speaker 2: we plug you? You are where?
Speaker 4: I'm still here on vsin by the way, but it
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Speaker 5: But I'm still around hanging in there.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's Wes Reynolds. That's where you can find him,
Speaker 2: Willie the Thrill. Other than Fairfield Women's hoops games, where
Speaker 2: can we find you.
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Speaker 2: And I am Todd Wishnev. You can find me at
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Speaker 2: video up there for when I won my in game
Speaker 2: Chiefs Commander's parlay last week. There was the actual art monk.
Speaker 2: He looks white, but it was actually the actual art
Speaker 2: was there at the River Sports Book and we were
Speaker 2: hugging and screaming after an unbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable Hail Mary.
Speaker 2: That makes up for ten bad beats. Now, granted I
Speaker 2: didn't have ten time to bet on it, but just
Speaker 2: the joy of that Hail Mary. And it's said that
Speaker 2: Gilly can't be here today when one of the most
Speaker 2: iconic Washington plays of all time was last week. It's
Speaker 2: just unbelievable. So check out my Twitter if you like.
Speaker 2: We are going to college basketball soon. So if you
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Speaker 2: I do the college football in college basketball and pro
Speaker 2: football in game picks, just send me a DM and
Speaker 2: once in a while I have the time and I
Speaker 2: sit down and add people to that. If you want
Speaker 2: to be in on that. That's about it. I apologize
Speaker 2: for not being as good a host as Gil Alexander.
Speaker 2: He is a pro and I am certainly nothing more
Speaker 2: than an amateur as a host. So I did the
Speaker 2: best I can. I hope it was good guys, and
Speaker 2: have a great week. Hopefully we all win betting. Thanks
Speaker 2: for for being here, guys.
Speaker 6: Thanks Wes