WEBVTT - Are intentional walks bad for MLB? 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.640 All right, Jared Sandler is here covering the Rangers, of course, 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.360 but we're talking World Series ball. Jared, Great to see you, 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.720 and I'll set this up. So this, I think, is 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.080 what our show is all about. Texting with a friend 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:18.760 about some ideas about the game, and then it's like, hey, 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:20.599 you want to hop on for ten minutes and go 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.320 over it? So how you doing? And then within that, 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.000 just lay out what we were texting about to everyone 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:28.920 and we'll kick around the ideas for fun. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.200 Yeah, what's up? Fellow's great seeing you guys. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:37.440 So I just had someboddies email thread talking about the 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.880 game last night, and one of the guys like, hey, 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.080 we got to get rid of the intentional walk in baseball. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.040 And I want to make something clear. It's given me 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.320 something to think about. And it's not just last night. 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.199 I've had conversations about the intentional walk before. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:52.240 I don't know where I stand. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.120 I'm gonna admit that I'm kind of riding the fence 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:59.200 on the pros and cons. But he offered up three alternatives, 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.640 one of which I really like. The one I like 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.040 is that a team can only intentionally walk about her 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.279 once per game. After that, you've got to execute four 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.199 pitches in the dirt or four pitches where you're working 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:13.080 around the hitter, but you can only you know, hey, 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:15.440 throw up the four fingers. That guy goes to first 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:20.839 once per game. The other options one was an intentional 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.120 walk advances every batter or every base runner one base. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.039 So if you have a runner at second and nobody out, 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.720 or runner at second nobody else on, you intentionally walk 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.280 the hitter, it becomes first and third as opposed to 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:35.600 first and second. Obviously, if you're intentionally walking someone with 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.160 a runner at third, then that guy scores. 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.400 I don't know if I love that one. Another one 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:43.640 was all four pitch walks or intentional walks or two bases. 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.160 I don't know that I love that either, because what 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.560 if there's a guy that just he's lost control for 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:50.000 a second. 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:50.880 I don't I don't know that. 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:55.520 I certainly think that's the way to go, and maybe 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.080 they're the answer is that there doesn't need to be 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.920 a change. I'm not sitting here saying that, you know, 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.760 we need to overreact because of one game, But the 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.760 impetus behind all this is and a part of what 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.239 makes every sport unique is what makes you know people 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.200 love those sports. But you know, in the NBA close game, 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.120 fourth quarter, you want to get Steph Curry the ball. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:16.919 You get Steph Curry. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.120 The ball team might double team him, that they might 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.320 try and force the ball out of his hands, but 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.799 you still, you know he's in a position to try 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.880 and do something and you can counter that. In the NFL, 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.080 if the Chiefs have the ball with a minute thirty 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.840 five left, you know, the Bills can't say, hey, we're 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.960 going to force We're going to use the press this butt. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.960 Patrick Mames has to be on the sideline. In the NHL, 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.400 you want your best line out on the ice in 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:40.120 the biggest moment. 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.680 You can do that. In our sport. A part of 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:44.640 the beauty is that you rely on one through nine. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:45.280 Like I love that. 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.480 I don't think that's a bug. I think that's a feature. 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.600 But I do wonder, you know, does it does it 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.520 make sense to at least force the athletes on the 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:58.000 mound to get the athlete in the box out in 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.160 these big moments, you know, and being Shoho tani as 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.800 opposed to just taking the bat out of his hands 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.040 completely strategically, it makes all the sense in the world. 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.239 I just I don't know, I'm curious your thoughts. I 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.040 don't know where I stand on this. I don't know 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.000 that there needs to be a change, but it was 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.720 something that we had discussed over email after the game 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:16.120 last night. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:17.959 I thought it was an interesting discussion. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:20.640 They used to do this, Jared. 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.240 They used to stand up, a right handed batter used 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.720 to stand up and you put your hand out and 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.520 they'd throw it out there and everybody would boo and 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.640 it was a waste of time. Or we could go 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.800 to this your email thread where all your buddies are like, yeah, 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:39.160 you know, they should just get rid of the intentional walk. Okay, 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.800 then and then we'll all write letters into the league 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.840 and say how we want to watch the game and 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.560 what we want to see happen. You can do all 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.880 those things. You can double team somebody in the NBA 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:51.800 and you can make sure they don't get the ball. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:58.800 You can go absolute blitz coverage on Patrick Mahomes and 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.440 you can make it just living hell for him and 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.000 not cover anybody else if you think he's But it's 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.120 a team sport, like getting rid of the intentional walk. 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.600 You know how you stop teams from intentionally walking guys? 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.640 Five times? Mookie Bets gets a hit and ends the game. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.080 Oh wait, I guess we can't do that. Like it's 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.000 a team game and if we always are like, oh man, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.479 I really love to see Shohil Tani hit man. That 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.520 would be great. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Tell Mokie Bets 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.080 to do better, or tell your pit like I don't 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:29.880 want to see I don't want to see them. You know, 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.760 stand up here, okay, you know over here. The one 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:35.320 moment is when some dude has the yips and he 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.800 throws he yard darts one or he lobs one, and 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:42.320 Miguel Cabrera hits a base hit. So when I read this, 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:46.240 I was kind of like, no, we were already there. 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:47.719 We don't need to go back. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.560 If I would have bet on the three of you 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.520 guys who is going to have the strongest opinion against this, 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.400 I would have put all my chips in that it'll 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:57.120 be cratzy. 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:58.279 I don't know. 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.000 AJ's a wild card, but I I figured I was 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.599 going to get that sort of response to America. I 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.440 just want to make it clear again, I don't know 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.120 how I feel about this. I think it's interesting. I 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.440 also think about things like that, the long term health 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.160 of the game. And I'm not saying the intentional walk 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.480 is shaping this one way or the other, but like 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.160 there's the baseball side of it, but then also like 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:23.680 just the entertainment fan side of it, and I try 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:25.880 and balance those two. And that's why I think this 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.880 maybe has meyrit not so much for the baseball side 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.800 of it, because this is a strategy. It's strategy just 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.120 like anything else, just like hack a shack with strategy. 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:35.160 In the NBA. 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.200 But then I think about, like the people who are 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.840 watching this game trying to decide do I like, how 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.720 much do I want to invest in being a fan 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:45.760 in the sport? And you know, they go and they 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.400 hear about the show Heyo Tani guy, and they certainly 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.600 got to show the first you know, nine innings of 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:52.400 the game when he had the four extra base hits 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.040 and the game time home run in the seventh and whatnot. 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.520 But yeah, I'm not necessarily saying I want to get 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.479 rid of the intentional walk, but I do. It's interesting 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.800 just hearing the other possibilities that could be out there. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.440 And like I said, the one that if you told 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.120 me you have to make a change, we're getting rid 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.000 of the intentional walk. The one that I would say 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.359 I would vote for is you can you can choot, 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.520 or I say, get rid of the intentional walk. Get 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.479 rid of the intentional walk as it is currently allowed, 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.360 which is you can do it as much as you want. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.679 I would say you can do it once again if 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:25.359 you told me you had to make a change to 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:26.200 the current structure. 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:35.640 The old card experience was a slow burned, long grind. Right, 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:40.040 find the box, find the pack you want, open the pack. 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.880 Most of the cards. Nah, Right, you got one that's 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:46.599 worth something, Now send. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:47.200 It in for grading. 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:49.640 I mean, the list goes on and you want to 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:50.960 sell it. Now, you got to put it up. Then 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.640 you got to ship it out. There's one solution for that, and. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.920 It's called Arena Club and it's just on a click 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:58.919 of a dime. You get on your computer. You type 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.360 in get the Arena Club app. Go on there, type in, 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.000 put some money in, and type in exactly what kind 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.919 of cards you want and while lah, It's a great experience, 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.640 and I think that's what people miss nowadays, the experience, 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.200 the excitement of getting a new card. You never know 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.640 what you're gonna get, an autographed card, anything you could 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.400 think of really cool stuff. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.600 You can get twenty percent off your first slab pack 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.200 or card purchase at arenaclub dot com slash foul. See 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.680 what gets Todd father so excited when he gets that 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:26.880 digital slab pack. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.080 It's like butter babyter. 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.760 Sorry, Jared, because that's how much I think your idea sucks. 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.960 But sorry, I appreciate it. This is all this is. Listen, 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.160 they already did it. I've seen pitchers throw intentional walk 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.000 pitches away, so what they did was the right thing. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:46.720 It speeds up the game. And I'm all for speeding 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.120 up the game with the pitch clock and all that. 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.560 But here's the key, and I think and Crats nailed it. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:52.520 Mookie Bats get some hits. You want to know how 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.720 they stopped doing this if Mookie Bats comes up and 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:55.040 gets it. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.360 I hit behind Barry Bonds a year. 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.840 He walked two hundred and I don't know seventy times, 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.520 and like one hundred and eighty nine of them were 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.360 intentional because I wasn't a guy that could hit seventy 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.920 homers like Barry Bonds could. So they were like, oh, 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.120 this guy hit into a double play and whatever. Like fine, 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.760 And I had a decent year but I'm not Mookie Betts, 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.120 and they still are doing this to get to an 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:17.160 MVP and Mookie. 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:17.880 Betts and Hall of Famer. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.040 Okay, so Mookie Betts does to get it, get his hits, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.240 but this is the strategy when they will. 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:24.880 You have to walk, guys, and you have to pick 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:25.880 and choose your battles. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.080 Baseball is it individual is a team game made up 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:33.040 of individual performances. Okay, and that's the key. You need 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.640 one through nine. You needed some guy every night. It's 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.120 got to be someone else that steps up. When the 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.560 Texas Rangers won the World Series, it wasn't always Corey 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.679 seeger A. Doley Scarcia had big hits. Jonah him had 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.480 big hits, everybody had. All these different guys had big 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.959 hits at different times. Right, So I think this is 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.520 a dumb idea. I appreciate that you guys put a 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.079 lot of thought to it. You and your friends put 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:55.839 a lot of thought into it. But you know what, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.319 you guys wasted your time and you're a Spurs fan, 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.520 so it hurts me to say that. But man, y'all, 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.120 y'all put a way too much time to something is 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:02.720 not gonna happen. 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.920 Just to be clear, not a San Antonio Spurs fan 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.480 the top because I hate the Spurs. 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:13.120 I'm a mass him. Uh no, I listen. I I 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:14.240 don't know if they're listening. 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.120 We'll definitely be sure to send them the link and 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.280 uh you know, we'll put that in the email threat. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.559 I I just thought it was an interesting discussion. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.400 But uh, hey, I I never claimed to be smart. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.959 I I I I know my place in this game. 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.240 Jared, I hope you're not offended by us saying it's 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.480 not at all. You're not saying at all you're dumb. 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:39.720 We're saying your idea was dumb. Okay, your friends they 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.000 might be if they didn't come on the show. 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:44.760 Wait, bring me on, bring me on here. I want 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:45.320 to jump in. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:51.960 Okay, you know, defense attorney Scott. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.640 Scott's gonna come on and say Rob for I'm Rob Manford, 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.800 and I think that's a great idea because da whatever, 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.720 go ahead, wrong, we alreadychang here's the role thirteen years ago. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.600 Now we're going to change it back because we just 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.040 want to make everybody get a participation award. 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.000 Go ahead, Scott, Jared. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:10.720 And I have covered the game for a long time 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.200 and we work with players and talk to players right, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:14.960 and players are not always. 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.880 Right about what fans want to see. 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.280 Many players I spoke to were against any rule change 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:26.000 of any kind, timeouts, pitch clock shifts. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:26.439 You name it. 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:28.400 And there have been a lot of changes that have 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.320 brought a lot of positivity to the sport. 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:35.520 So I just think it's worth having discussions. People lost their. 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:44.160 Minds on Scott's on the email thread Scott email thread. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:50.000 Scott was one that sent the email exactly just kidding, 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:50.600 I'm just kidding. 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:52.960 Question. 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.880 Here's so many players that want to pitchcock and they 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:57.240 were flat out wrong. 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.760 I love the pitch clock as an announcer is Jared, 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.400 I know he does. But here's the thing. How many 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.680 of you? Hi? Hi, mom? Who's that? Hi? Honey? 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.720 It's my it's my my wife and I are living 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.520 with my wife's nana right now. 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:10.839 So that's Nana who just walked by. 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:15.000 Hey, Rana, what's up? Here's my question? 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:19.120 Nana? Do you like the intentional walk? She said? What's 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.959 the intentional lot? She's on high side? 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:22.240 Ay? 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:23.360 J sixty seconds? 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:24.000 No real quick though? 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:24.480 You okay? 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.640 Would you rather see the just him show? Hey go 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:27.120 to first? 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.560 Or have that at baut where the guy throws four 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.320 balls in the dirt and we waste three minutes of 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.400 our lives instead of just saying go to first, like 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:34.840 that was so much better when they just were like, 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.040 go to first, MOOKI trying to get it. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.120 Well, I'd say this, there's no skill in doing this. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.240 I think there is a skill in pitching around guys, 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.440 because you guys have seen this, find the plate, you've 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.720 had a picture on the mound, and the directive is, 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.160 you know, we're let's see if this guy can chase. 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:49.440 If not, we're going to pitch around him. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.400 And then you leave a pitch that is over the 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.839 corner and that guy, that athlete in the box is 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:55.920 so good he's able to drive that into gap or 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:57.800 over the wall. So I do think there is a 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.640 skill in being able to pitch around guys. There's no 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.120 skill in turning and doing this. So I just the 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:05.160 reason I find this to have some merit. I know 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.280 we're on o'clock here, is that I'm all for rules 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.360 that at least put athletes in a position to be 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:15.800 athletes or challenge their athleticism. And I always ask myself 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.200 that question, So that that's why I think I've given 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.800 it some consideration. I have asked some players around the league, pitchers, 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.240 as you can imagine, they don't like it. I've talked 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.200 to some hitters though, They're like, yeah, I think this 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:26.920 is interesting. 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.040 There's obviously biases involved with their roles in the game. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.040 Though. Stay for two minutes. We're hitting a break for 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.360 the TV crowd. We have two minutes left to keep 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:53.200 this going. Okay, So here's the radical thought. And I'm 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.800 not saying this is what we should do, but Jared, 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.440 what about if you're limiting the amount of times you 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.280 can walk someone in a game period? 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:01.679 Right? 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.960 So if you're limited not I'm saying, if. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.560 You can't make a guy swing, you can't make a 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.000 guy swing, Scott, what are you gonna Oh no, he 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.040 gets extra balls until you throw him a strike? 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.840 Like, what are you talking about? What do you mean 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:15.600 the other? 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.120 Yeah? But if if you walk guys, right, punished for 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.600 walking guys. If if you want to throw strikes, throw strikes. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.800 If you can't throw strikes to a guy, because the 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:28.199 problem is yeah, if you go back to saying, oh, 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:29.880 you actually have to throw it, you can just fake 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.240 throw right, guys know where I mean? 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:31.520 Guys? 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.080 Can throw outside the zone or throw it in the dirt. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:35.800 But what if you're like, hey. 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.439 No, they can't, No, they can't. Some guys can't do it. 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.280 I know, but I saw Flag Guerrero. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:42.600 Hit a home run. 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.040 I didn't see it, but Flaguerreo hit a home run 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.280 on intentional walk and double a off Troy Carrasco lefty. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.640 He couldn't get him out. He tried to intentionally walk him. 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:55.360 Flagguerrero went right center boom at Harrisburg on intentional walk. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:56.920 So some guys can't even do that. 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.160 So don't say, oh, well, guys, how hard is it 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:00.360 for a guy to hit a guy when you tell 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.520 them to hit a guy? It ain't that easy for 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.440 these guys because they're programmed to throw strikes. They're not 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.200 programmed to miss the strike zone. 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:08.680 Right. 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.920 But my point is, if you're just gonna intentionally walk 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.040 a guy, you could stand out like we used to 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.000 and just catch a ball unless you have the yips. 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.440 Well the guys, I know. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:20.280 But it doesn't happen. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.040 You should just go like this and put them on 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:23.160 if that's the strategy. 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.160 But the point is all the sports get to see 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.280 their stars thrive and thrive, and our sport. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.440 Actually does the opposite, And I get it. That's fine. 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.280 I'm just throwing it out there. Other sports do thrive 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.640 by letting their superstar step up for half the night. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.320 Last night, Otani just goes to first and he's still 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.240 a factor because he can run and you know, he 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:42.960 was caught stealing the one time. But it's not the 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.120 same as getting to see more Show Hey at Bats. 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.120 That's all we're just trying to brainstorm. Is there a 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.360 way to still get show Hey at Bats or Superstar 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.000 at Bats? And your answer, both of. 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:56.560 You guys gold nip bat, gold nip Bat, gold nipet, do. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.680 You actually like like I don't like that role. There's 0:14:58.680 --> 0:14:59.840 no way you actually like that rule? 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:03.440 Right, No, But if you wanted to get in a 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.920 little bit, because it would have been kind of come 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:06.640 up a couple. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.920 Of times, you know, Yeah, I don't buy that you 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.200 like that wad. 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.680 And blat here comes flat. Oh wait, we're gonna move 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:13.640 flat into the spot. 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:15.920 I don't know, been kind, We got a guy, we 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:17.280 got ten seconds. 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.200 Well, never mind the show Hey rule. It's basically tonight 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.360 he's able to pitch in d H. It's a rule 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.360 made for him. I'm curious your thoughts on that can 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:25.920 discuss in. 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:26.480 A later time. 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.720 Yep, there you go, all right, Jared, good stuff, dude, 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.280 Thanks for popping on and waking our guys up. 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:33.720 We needed some coffee. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:36.480 Boys. 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.000 We were continuing the combo. 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.360 Gied Tandler did a nice job, and he brought up 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:45.520 the show Heyo Tiny Rule. 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:49.720 Do you like the show Hao Tiny Rule? The real one? 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:50.280 Yeah? 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.960 Yeah, it allows them to play in DH I'm fine 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.160 with it, but he's the only guy. He's the only 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.720 guy that could do it, which I wish. I wish 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:00.440 there was a I wish there was a more way 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.800 to get more people to try this, but because the 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.920 way it's set up, it's it's set up basically for 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.200 one guy, and they change the rule for one guy, 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.520 and I don't know, We'll see if we can get 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.520 some other guys to do it. But I do like 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:13.320 the fact that we get to see him, and even 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.120 if they walk them five times, Scott, at least we 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:15.760 get to see him. 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.080 Guys are trolling me so hard, like I'm not the 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.160 one pushing for it. I'm just saying, like, let's. 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.480 Listen, you're on the email threat Scott you're on the 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:24.120 email threat. 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:25.120 I was a problem. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.960 Sometimes it's like you're not even allowed to bring something 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.440 up or say something right in our sport or in 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:31.760 a lot of debates, right. 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:33.560 Like why can't we just talk through it? It's a 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:34.560 sports talk show. 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.400 Some people I was texting were like, hey, fifteenth inning, 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.640 ghost Runner, I'm okay with it. 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.640 Bad It's the only sport where we have one rule 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.920 for the regular season and a different rule for the postseason. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:49.040 No hockey, hockey a shootouts in the regular season, and 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.880 then they don't so too true. But I'm with you. 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:55.360 I mean, I like the ghost Runner more than most do. 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.680 Fifteenth inning, I'm okay with it. Woh, I got last words? 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:08.560 See how the post game step aft is presented by 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.600 Fox one. That's where you can watch the rest of 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.119 the World Series. Doesn't matter how long it takes, the 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:16.480 app can handle it for you. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:17.879 Foul territory. 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:22.240