1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm at Wardahal and this is big Fish Small Pod. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Today is November fifth. This is the Fish Strips podcast, 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: ahead or behind whatever direction you came to get here. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: We also have an episode up with Eli Hawking with 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Keith Law of The Athletic. Really great interview. Totally recommend 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: you check it out. But first things first, on a 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: big Fish Small Pod today, I'm taking a look at 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: the fangrafs projections for the Marlins for twenty twenty two 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: and then like looking ahead at like what they could 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: maybe do with that. So yeah, starting like quickly, we'll 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: look first at like ketcher, I'm only focused on hitters here. 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: We know that the Marlins like pitching. We know the 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: Marlins pitching. We just like we know the Marlins pitching. 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: Hitting is like where we might see some real changes. 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: So at Ketcher, Fangrafs has the Marlins ranked at thirtieth. 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: It is a foe gwn conclusion that they will make 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: some movement there. They have a spot open on the 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: twenty sixth man roster with Sandy Leon now out of 19 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: the picture at least for now. He could come around 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: again as a minor league free agent leader in the offseason, 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: but don't expect anything like that yet. Because the Marlins 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: have stated that they're looking for a starting catcher, I 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: expect them now to be making some calls. Some free 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: agents they could target, like a young films someone could 25 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: be like really respected. They could spend some money on, 26 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: like a player like that, who would even add like 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: more awesome internationality to this Marlins team. Additionally, they are 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: like trade targets, trade a prospect, some prospects, some who 29 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: knows what, maybe like another like forty man roster pinch person. 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: There's plenty of options for the Marlins to go without 31 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: really threatening their top of the line. So when we 32 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: see that the Marlins are projected thirtieth at catcher, really 33 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: what we're looking at is just like it's disturbing. It's 34 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: like disturbing numbers. Yeah, they expect about negative twenty runs 35 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: by the bat for catchers for the Marlins in twenty 36 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: twenty two, negative four fielding overall. Rough. So first base, 37 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: we'll move forward twentieth Agular Diaz, Cooper bulk of the vats. 38 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: They're going to Aguilar Diz kind of filling behind him. 39 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: So like, looking at this position, I feel like they're 40 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: not really accounting for Isan Diaz's stride with his bat. 41 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: I like that they've paired it with a vet DH 42 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: would help with Garrett Cooper. Not a lot to say 43 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: at first base second base, though the graps some ratings 44 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: have the Marlins at twenty seventh for second base. Looking 45 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: at their depth chart, Jazz, who's like expected to get 46 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: the bulk of the app bats, is leading that front. 47 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: Just they expect him for like a two twenty four 48 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: batty average. I'm really like, I feel like this really 49 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: uncovers a bit of the Fangrafts projections. They don't really 50 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: assume development. So Jazz we've seen like his like his talent. 51 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: We've he's shown it in moments, think like some of 52 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: his home runs or just how he runs the bases 53 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: or how his bat is, but he hasn't shown that 54 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: he can consistently hit at a high level or like 55 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: stay healthy. So all of that gives like fan Grafts 56 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: plenty of reason to like Hedge who he is, But like, 57 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: we're not looking at that second base twenty seventh best 58 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: second base situation in the major leagues. I fully don't 59 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: buy it, even if it does seem like they need 60 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: some depth at it. They don't mention Jose Devers at all. 61 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: They expect to something. Yes, first of Matt Bat's John 62 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: Birdie is still in the conversation. Just a moment of 63 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: pause for John Birdie. Don't know what to expect with 64 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: his career yet where it's going to take off, but 65 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 1: like great dude. Moving on to shortstop, Miguel Rojas leads 66 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: the way. Shortstop is considered the thirteenth best shortstop situation 67 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: in the major leagues going into twenty twenty two. With that, 68 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: with Jazz getting some play, yeah they could still like 69 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: hit on that. There's still like room for improvement. Miguel 70 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: Rojas has said that there's like, I mean, no ego 71 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: issue with him moving away from shortstop full time, so 72 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: like yeah, like why not. I know the answer to 73 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: that is like budget and stuff, like all the other construction, 74 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: but like why not? So third base twentieth Brian Anderson 75 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: leads the way pretty much exclusively. I was curious, so 76 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: I looked at it. His outfield versus third base splits 77 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: just quickly some numbers. When he's a third baseman. His 78 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: weighted runs created plus is one oh nine versus a 79 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: one to eighteen. As a right fielder, So like there's 80 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: a distinct level up for his bat when he is 81 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: in the outfield and versus in the infield. It could 82 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: be something to do with finding less demands on his 83 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: like game. He obviously values both sides of the game 84 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: very highly, Brian, so if like there's less demand on 85 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: the defensive end, maybe he's able to put a little 86 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: bit more into the bat, which could result in that 87 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: split we see there totally a theory, maybe not, but 88 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to highlight that because Brian Anderson is a 89 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: candidate to play in the outfield. In looking at the outfield, 90 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: it's like overall pretty rough left field. The Marlins have 91 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: the thirtieth best left field situation with Lewis Brinson getting 92 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: a bulk of the bats as like a plus fielder 93 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: and Garrett Cooper getting kind of like the bench load 94 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: of at bats as like a solid bat. Brian day 95 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: la Cruz also like fits in some there, and like 96 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: with Lewis, it's hard to imagine him coming back as 97 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: a starting player on the Marlins. I just don't see it. 98 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: He hasn't shown enough with the bat to really be 99 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: in consideration for a team that has like so repeatedly 100 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: said that they need to hit. It's just not enough 101 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: of a lock to it. So Garrett Cooper kind of 102 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: the same thing. But like you want a good fielded 103 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: player too. Left field seems like primed for an upgrade 104 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: of sorts, even if it is like someone to compete 105 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: with Brian de la Cruz. By that, I mean someone 106 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: who's like a similarly developing player, kind of just going 107 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: to say names like Tyler Trammel, or like Brandon marsh 108 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: or like or there's room to bring in a vet 109 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: or maybe Brian can play left center field twenty eighth 110 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: Purthy's Fangraff ratings. Marlins have said they need a centerfielder. 111 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: They've shown that they needed a centerfielder when they got 112 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: Jonathan Vr, that they valued having a good centerfielder when 113 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: they got Starling Marte. Then when they traded Starling Marte, 114 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: they've been pretty adamant that they still need a good 115 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: center fielder. So that could lead the way to a 116 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: major trade. Obviously, like Byron Buxton is like the top 117 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: of the market, and there's a real free agent scarcity. 118 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm pretty much like Starley Marte, and then there's like 119 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: a field of players that are like centerfield capable, but 120 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: not quite like you're like proto type of like a 121 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: Tory Hunter center fielder, which like Starley Marte kind of is, 122 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: but like Chris Taylor definitely isn't. You'd need like an 123 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: absolutely stellar athlete, which I mean like maybe we're looking 124 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: like years down the line, but maybe like Jazz could 125 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: fit in through some centerfield at bats in like innings 126 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: that don't matter when the team is greatly ahead. Because 127 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: the bats situation was figured out this offseason. Right field 128 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: Hayesu Sanchez pretty much a lock to start, rated twenty 129 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: sixth by these Fangrafts ratings. Again, like looking at the 130 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: outfield thirtyeth, twenty eight and twenty sixth, plenty of reason 131 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: for the Marlins too, Like look to add two people 132 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: to that like outfield depth chart, even with like Brian 133 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: de la Cruz, Like I struggle with that because he's 134 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: not the fourth outfielder. He's also not quite a proven starter. 135 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: So how do you set up that like person to 136 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: be in the right position for success In twenty twenty two, 137 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: the play might to be to go over the top 138 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: and get a center fielder that might not put it 139 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: all together, but has all the tools to do it 140 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: and has done it before, like a Byron Buxton who 141 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: is an injury risk that Brian de la Cruz could 142 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: step in for, or Cody Bellinger, who maybe the Dodgers 143 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: are done with. I have no idea, but I can dream. 144 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: First things first, seems to be a catcher with the 145 00:09:54,640 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: availability coming up of free agents Monday, No. Eight will 146 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: be up for the taking, so we'll see quickly how 147 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: the s offseason's take in shape with already some movement 148 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: in the catcher market. Anyways, for the podcast, I've been 149 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: eighteen dult. We'll be back with you later and if 150 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: you seriously haven't checked out Eli's latest go do it.