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Speaker 3: Gross Monday, Welcome to the show Man.
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Speaker 5: My boy three pumps. Hey, that's that's Nate with the
Speaker 5: fresh cut. I see you looking clean over the baby.
Speaker 4: Hey, look well you get your head cutting everything.
Speaker 6: Your eyes be real gleamy and brown and hazel.
Speaker 7: It's some Indians came in from.
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Speaker 4: Man, First off, how are you guys doing? Okay, I'm fine,
Speaker 4: I'm fine now I know now I know.
Speaker 6: I told y'all on Monday.
Speaker 7: I told y'all on Monday.
Speaker 6: What does it be?
Speaker 7: Ready to be? You go ahead?
Speaker 4: This will be the last show that we were together
Speaker 4: this week. This is uh, you know, you know what?
Speaker 4: And call us because we want to know how you
Speaker 4: got We know how we feed. We would like to
Speaker 4: do you really want to do this?
Speaker 6: Yes, a couple, Let's let's see. Let's see, let's see call.
Speaker 4: I know one person that is not going to call
Speaker 4: eight five five two two nine seven?
Speaker 7: Is that right?
Speaker 4: Eighty five five?
Speaker 7: Yes? I got it right? What is it now?
Speaker 6: Any eight eight five five to two nine seven?
Speaker 4: Let us know how you feed today on this Monday.
Speaker 6: That's how you got to intro it. Now, hey, this
Speaker 6: is Chris Froher.
Speaker 5: So, so, Chris, how did you fee today?
Speaker 4: I think we all knew it.
Speaker 7: Let me get the scores.
Speaker 4: I didn't even look at the scores.
Speaker 6: Right here, this is mine's in here.
Speaker 4: So we all knew it. Right, Let's see who knew it.
Speaker 7: Kurt knew what seven They didn't know it? I didn't, Yesse,
Speaker 7: he knew it.
Speaker 4: Shannon I knew it. I just say you know it,
Speaker 4: jazz it.
Speaker 8: Josh knew it.
Speaker 4: Got it by a mile, he said, he meant de troit.
Speaker 4: Actually he actually won, if so. I think we all
Speaker 4: knew what was coming. We were I believe we were
Speaker 4: in denial a little bit. But you saw what you
Speaker 4: saw what happened.
Speaker 9: When a really good you called me earlier offensive line
Speaker 9: just had their way with your defensive line and you
Speaker 9: just everything we said on Friday that they needed to
Speaker 9: do to win this game, they did the opposite. They
Speaker 9: got off to a slow start, they didn't score touchdowns.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was just disaster. I think I heard
Speaker 4: that that what the worst home loss ever since Jerry.
Speaker 8: Title, worst loss ever, you know, you know, fifth overall history.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 10: And I want to get this out of the way quickly. Jesse,
Speaker 10: what was it the Cowboys win?
Speaker 7: If? What was what was our final thing on if
Speaker 7: they lose? What has to happen?
Speaker 4: Jesse lines twenty or less rushing attempts or one hundred
Speaker 4: and twenty or less rushing yards. You know what, one
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty. Here's a silver lining.
Speaker 6: Don't cheat me. They they don't cheat me. Don't cheat me.
Speaker 7: Chris.
Speaker 4: Wait, here's a silver line.
Speaker 6: I'm about to find four.
Speaker 3: Okay, Sorry, they didn't have one hundred.
Speaker 4: Yard rusher, did they?
Speaker 7: They did not.
Speaker 4: There you go, there's a silver lining.
Speaker 7: But they did pay one of the guys. He was
Speaker 7: he was in a vengeful mode. Number five. They paid
Speaker 7: paid the night before. He was in a very angry
Speaker 7: running mold.
Speaker 4: So Nate just over before we get into the details,
Speaker 4: overall thoughts on what you what you saw.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna pull it. Yes, I'm gonna pull it. Jest.
Speaker 6: I told y'all.
Speaker 7: Starting last Monday.
Speaker 4: It's hard not to look at.
Speaker 10: Their offensive line. They are a dominant unit. Everything is
Speaker 10: predicated off of Detroit. And they did not make me
Speaker 10: a liar. And I hate that and I am through.
Speaker 4: Jesse. Wait, let's go to Kirk because he's gonna have
Speaker 4: a lot less to say.
Speaker 8: It just disheartening, man, They're just so bad. They could
Speaker 8: do nothing right. I mean, if you told me, I mean,
Speaker 8: I think most people thought at this point they would
Speaker 8: be three and three and they're three and three, but
Speaker 8: it's such an ugly three and three that you just
Speaker 8: got to wonder where the rest of the season is
Speaker 8: going to go.
Speaker 4: You don't have much hope. And when we picked the games,
Speaker 4: you had longevity, you had hope. There was a full
Speaker 4: season at three and three.
Speaker 7: I wasn't a.
Speaker 4: The three losses. You look like a college team playing,
Speaker 4: you know, Jesse, your turn, sir, Well, I'm a place
Speaker 4: of reason.
Speaker 6: I'm a pulling Nate.
Speaker 7: See them or.
Speaker 6: Hold on y'all my phone. Man, No, man, I don't, guys.
Speaker 6: It is what it is man like.
Speaker 5: When they show you who they are, believe them, like,
Speaker 5: this is who this team is against quality opponents. And
Speaker 5: it was gonna be no different as the week. As
Speaker 5: a week beginning to progress, I remember watching the film
Speaker 5: Monday night. I watched the first thirteen minutes of it
Speaker 5: and I said, this is gonna be bad.
Speaker 7: I did.
Speaker 6: And then as a week progressed, and it was.
Speaker 5: This players on the injury list, this player may not play,
Speaker 5: this player may not play. And then we got to
Speaker 5: game day and there's a bunch of you. There's a
Speaker 5: bunch of you because y'all called me out.
Speaker 6: When I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: There's a whole lot of y'all that that tweeted me
Speaker 5: and was in the comments about we need to have
Speaker 5: the best start in five. Then we get to Sunday
Speaker 5: and I realized Tyler got is not playing. Y'all all
Speaker 5: told me, you all told me the best five was
Speaker 5: Tyler Smith, that tackle basket guard, Cooper Martin Steele. Y'all
Speaker 5: told me that, and I told you you were wrong,
Speaker 5: and that's right again. Not only that, not only that,
Speaker 5: but Zach Martin may have played the absolute worst game.
Speaker 6: He has ever played. He gave up eight pressures.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think his PFF pass rush grade zero, yes, zero.
Speaker 9: Overall he was like twenty three, twenty three, twenty point
Speaker 9: three cowboy.
Speaker 5: They took turns, Tyler Smith got whooped up bass. Cooper
Speaker 5: Bebe might have been the only kind of one that
Speaker 5: did anything positive.
Speaker 6: But Zach Martin and we know what Steve has been.
Speaker 4: What happened on the offensive line night? What did you see?
Speaker 7: Like? Why?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 4: Because they faced good defensive My friend.
Speaker 10: Let me see this has been building. I will make
Speaker 10: no excuses for Zach Martin. I don't know what year
Speaker 10: it is.
Speaker 6: For him, ten in ten eleven.
Speaker 7: You guys posed this question. You pose this question when
Speaker 7: you walked in Shannon and.
Speaker 10: Kurt, and the only thing I told him, Jesse, welcome
Speaker 10: to the world of old. Yes, it is so. I
Speaker 10: would not make any excuses for for Zack. Zach is
Speaker 10: a great player who is for the last year, has
Speaker 10: been declining slowly. Yesterday he got a chance to feel
Speaker 10: what I felt at one point. He's old still. I've
Speaker 10: been waiting and Jesse's been correct and with his assessments,
Speaker 10: but I've been just hoping and praying that this kid
Speaker 10: would just find that whatever he had two years ago,
Speaker 10: whatever he you know, just that little bit of extra
Speaker 10: it's not there.
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's gonna get there.
Speaker 10: I left tackle, Get him back to left guard where
Speaker 10: he's at home, where he can.
Speaker 6: Move and dominant. He's dominant at left guard.
Speaker 10: Yes, get him back home, solid spot right, and you're
Speaker 10: gonna have to do what you gotta do with the left.
Speaker 10: The left tackle center is growing. Yesterday they faced a
Speaker 10: nice team. They faced the team that knew who they were.
Speaker 10: They played discipline ball, they rally got out of their gaps.
Speaker 7: They played their four to three like we wished our.
Speaker 10: Guys could play, but we don't have the players defensively
Speaker 10: to play the.
Speaker 4: Way Detroit watching him yesterday. Do you think they're the
Speaker 4: favorite in the NFC to go to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 6: I think so.
Speaker 5: It hurts now that they don't have Ady Hutchison. That's
Speaker 5: a huge, huge, huge, Yeah, that sucks, and thoughts and
Speaker 5: prayers go out too. They said he was having this
Speaker 5: he's still here having his surgery last night.
Speaker 7: Or today, Yes, last night, all last night.
Speaker 6: That's that sucks. But I would not be shocked.
Speaker 5: I know that we can't talk about other players on
Speaker 5: other teams that are under contract.
Speaker 6: I would not be shocked.
Speaker 7: They will get somebody.
Speaker 6: A the scruntle defensive end in this league.
Speaker 5: Would not be shocked. Who just signed a new agent,
Speaker 5: by the way, Yes he did, just going there. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's just something they get him. He signed equal better,
Speaker 5: he's equally better.
Speaker 6: And yeah they just signed they signed.
Speaker 5: He signed Google that So the next and the next
Speaker 5: I tweeted this in the next five to seven business days.
Speaker 7: That he left a bunch of birds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that specific player, Oh.
Speaker 4: That guy we've talked about that a bunch of birds. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he will probably be dig digit on his jersey right, talked.
Speaker 7: About it, but he gets but he gets double digit sa.
Speaker 4: Man, So a lot of people what what bothers you?
Speaker 10: More?
Speaker 4: Before I move on to this that the offense is
Speaker 4: so anemic and they just can't get anything going, or
Speaker 4: that the defense just can't stop anything from getting God,
Speaker 4: because I saw Tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 9: Did I see a couple of business decisions made yesterday
Speaker 9: on defense?
Speaker 6: Like yeah, you know where when you know where?
Speaker 5: The show of calling the spade of spade, right, we
Speaker 5: don't dance around things on this show.
Speaker 4: Some of us do, some of us don't.
Speaker 5: Trayvon Diggs made a lot of business decisions yesterday, Okay, Like.
Speaker 10: I mean plays that could have been only a three
Speaker 10: yard game or five yard game.
Speaker 7: Turn it. Come on, man, that's what I saw. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that was not nice.
Speaker 5: Trayvon made a bunch of business decisions yesterday. And I'm
Speaker 5: not saying like David Montgomery and Jamiir Gibbs, they ain't
Speaker 5: six foot four, two hundred and forty five fifty pounds.
Speaker 5: They're not Derrick Henry. Right, I'll even give you a
Speaker 5: little pass every now and to get on Dereck Henry.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying speaking of Jesus, I'll give
Speaker 5: you a pass on a guy like that coming downhill
Speaker 5: on you, coming around the corner on you, the guy
Speaker 5: to headstart on you, I'll give you a p If
Speaker 5: there's elephants on parade and they're running student body right
Speaker 5: and the left tackle is coming out there, the guard
Speaker 5: is coming out there and he's screaming down at you
Speaker 5: at two hundred and you just squat down.
Speaker 6: You get a pass from me. You get a little
Speaker 6: pass for me.
Speaker 5: But the way that he was turning down tackles yesterday,
Speaker 5: and I mean turning them down multiple times, that's embarrassing.
Speaker 6: And that leads me to believe.
Speaker 5: And I said this before and I'll keep saying it,
Speaker 5: there is zero accountability on this football team, zero zero,
Speaker 5: because there's no way we're going in there watching film
Speaker 5: today and those plays come up from one of your
Speaker 5: best players and nobody says nothing. And I know no
Speaker 5: one is saying anything because it keeps happening. The things
Speaker 5: that we keep talking about are recurring situations. Again, if
Speaker 5: it was one of those deals where he was a
Speaker 5: guy who was a short tackle or a solid tackler,
Speaker 5: you know, okay, we give him grace had it off day.
Speaker 5: But this has been a recurring thing for him this year,
Speaker 5: and that those type of things continually show me that
Speaker 5: everybody's too buddy buddy, and I can't say nothing to him,
Speaker 5: or I can't say nothing to him because well we're friends,
Speaker 5: and I don't want to have that relationship a little bit.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: It's it's and it's across the board. It is a
Speaker 5: cross the board when you when you turn on the
Speaker 5: tape and you watch these guys play, the accountability level
Speaker 5: is at a at an all time low. And I
Speaker 5: can I can confidently say that because when I when
Speaker 5: I watched these games and I watched the film, and
Speaker 5: I watched the same things happen over and over and over.
Speaker 6: And so either I.
Speaker 5: Told you guys before, either you're coaching it or you're
Speaker 5: allowing it. Those are the only two options. And the
Speaker 5: allowing part goes to all of the leaders, the coaching leaders,
Speaker 5: the player leaders. Y'all allowing this, y'all allowing these things
Speaker 5: to happen. You're allowing Mazie to still get off the
Speaker 5: ball late. You're allowing Mazie to get blown back, liv
Speaker 5: Velle Joseph to get blown back. You're allowing guys like
Speaker 5: Schoolmaker who you know, Hey, I got the chip block,
Speaker 5: but I shouldn't have to go a feeling. Gys running
Speaker 5: into each other. You got offensive players running into each other.
Speaker 5: This ain't This is not you know, Chris Son plays
Speaker 5: pot one of football. They run into each other and
Speaker 5: that's what you Okay, it's cute, right, Oh, they're learning.
Speaker 5: Pros are running into each other. Offensive guys are running
Speaker 5: into each other, trying to run routes.
Speaker 6: It's it's it's bad.
Speaker 12: All right.
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Speaker 4: By the way, congratulations to Josh. He got to score
Speaker 4: the closest he had Detroit, winning by thirty four to twenty.
Speaker 4: He still missed it by a mile, missed it by
Speaker 4: twenty four points, but he was the closest, So congratulations Josh. Josh,
Speaker 4: by the way, will be on Hanging with the Boys tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Who else do we have on here? Chris tomorrow?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 4: You have Jazz Money and Nick har.
Speaker 5: All right, allus just have to experience what it feels
Speaker 5: like to sit in the number one show.
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm gonna bring that up right, how
Speaker 4: does that seat feel the number one seat?
Speaker 11: Number?
Speaker 4: What shows are you guys on? Just so people can
Speaker 4: tune to what's interesting? Yeah, both of them?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they together really want of the players loud players?
Speaker 14: What time we normally are? We don't want to know, West.
Speaker 14: We're trying to help that show. We got to bring
Speaker 14: them up from the rear you with everthing?
Speaker 6: Whatever? Okay, what time two o'clock?
Speaker 4: Two o'clock right after the show.
Speaker 7: We got to pick up ever since space.
Speaker 6: He's with Mickey, so our piece show?
Speaker 4: What show are you on?
Speaker 7: Kurt? They are.
Speaker 11: The players?
Speaker 7: Show?
Speaker 6: Real quick, Chrish, the three old guys.
Speaker 4: First of all, I didn't schedule him, by the way.
Speaker 7: Second.
Speaker 3: Second of all, Kurt is filling in for ever since
Speaker 3: obviously on that show because he's switching.
Speaker 4: So Kurt decided to take Wednesday off like Everson.
Speaker 8: Would sure think goodbye without me?
Speaker 6: Looks are.
Speaker 4: Like wow you yeah, so, Chris, Yes, sir? Are we
Speaker 4: ready to do this?
Speaker 7: Yes, let's do it.
Speaker 4: These have not been screened, right, they have been screened
Speaker 4: a little bit. Let's let's just get to her and
Speaker 4: see what happens. Okay, let's see what happens. Who we
Speaker 4: got we got Priscilla. She's in Santos, Priscilla, how do
Speaker 4: you feed today?
Speaker 15: OMG?
Speaker 16: First of all, you guys got me cracking up, regardless.
Speaker 4: Of the blush. That was all we could do today
Speaker 4: to keep from crying. So thank you for that.
Speaker 16: Yeah, and it's harder for me because I live in
Speaker 16: the Bay Area, so I am surrounded by nine fans
Speaker 16: and yeah, you know what, try to punch me in
Speaker 16: the face.
Speaker 4: You know what I was gonna say.
Speaker 9: They're quickly becoming the most aggressive fan base in the
Speaker 9: NFL outside of Philly. They'll us, they'll punch you as
Speaker 9: soon as look at you.
Speaker 16: So exactly. But you know what, I still wear my
Speaker 16: cowboy colors loud and proud.
Speaker 4: There you go, Stay safe, Stay safe.
Speaker 16: So I am bummed out, but it is what it is.
Speaker 16: Just like you all say, we.
Speaker 10: Are what we are.
Speaker 4: Oh, Bill Parcells aid the best. Are you gonna keep
Speaker 4: watching Priscilla? Keep?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 16: I'm a Cowboy fan for life, just like Nates.
Speaker 4: Yea, even if you quit watching the games, keep listening
Speaker 4: to our show. We need all the viewers we can get.
Speaker 4: Keep us number one.
Speaker 16: I watch you guys all the time, regardless winter loss
Speaker 16: you are the ones I turn on. We are the
Speaker 16: number one show for sure.
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 7: Thanks? Do you like the new name of three pumps
Speaker 7: for Kurt? Don't even?
Speaker 8: Don't you.
Speaker 6: Know?
Speaker 16: You'll pick on Kurt so much and he just takes
Speaker 16: it in it, doesn't say nothing, and he's still smiling.
Speaker 5: You should see how he cuss us out in the break,
Speaker 5: the words against us in the break.
Speaker 4: Hey, Priscilla, how do you how do you view the show?
Speaker 8: Why are you doing that?
Speaker 4: How do you watch the spot?
Speaker 5: Watch it?
Speaker 16: I do watch it on the Cowboy website.
Speaker 4: On the website dot com. All right, didn't know.
Speaker 5: I can see y'all.
Speaker 16: I see y'all.
Speaker 4: We appreciate you listening so much for the call. Hang
Speaker 4: in there. They support them out in the Bay area.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 4: What did you think I meant by that? Kurt?
Speaker 8: I thought you're like one of the critique us.
Speaker 7: How do your view?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? I went read YouTube comments like one time?
Speaker 7: Is that?
Speaker 4: Never again?
Speaker 6: Every day they can't sound to.
Speaker 1: Say to me.
Speaker 8: Finally have a woman call and you ask her about
Speaker 8: three points?
Speaker 4: All right, Chris, we got another one. Yeah, we got
Speaker 4: Josh and Maryland. Hey, Josh, how do you see?
Speaker 15: Hey, I'm feeling good. I don't know how the Cowboys feeling,
Speaker 15: but I'm feeling good. I can't complain. Yeah, they real store,
Speaker 15: they real store. I mean, I really don't know, Like
Speaker 15: where do we go from here? You know what I mean?
Speaker 15: I think Dak say something about when we were three
Speaker 15: and five and twenty eighteen, But I don't think it's
Speaker 15: one trade that's gonna get us, you know, out of
Speaker 15: the situation that we're in this shit. I'm honestly looking
Speaker 15: forward towards the draft and free agency, you know, whatever
Speaker 15: free agencies you do do, but that draft, because I
Speaker 15: don't see nothing fits in this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 15: The three and three don't feel like that three and five,
Speaker 15: So you know, a few years back. So that's totty
Speaker 15: much all I got to say about right there.
Speaker 9: Appreciate it, man, Thank you for la That's a great,
Speaker 9: great question because you know, you know, ownership's got to
Speaker 9: be looking at this. They they see what we saw,
Speaker 9: they feel what we feel.
Speaker 4: I would hope, so Jesse, I would hope, so I
Speaker 4: would hope I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 6: Didn't Jerry said that there wasn't like but.
Speaker 4: What you say and what you know and feel and see,
Speaker 4: like Chris knew that they were losing this week, and
Speaker 4: he still picked the Cowboys to win. Right, they gotta
Speaker 4: know that's correct, So that's correct.
Speaker 9: So and Nate picked him seven to three. And you know,
Speaker 9: Nate saw the film too leading up to this game.
Speaker 7: I try to warn them.
Speaker 4: He actually gave us a score. But what do you
Speaker 4: do from here?
Speaker 5: But Jerry, Jerry said, and he said it when he paid,
Speaker 5: that that Dak's gonna have to do more with less, right,
Speaker 5: Like I think he meant that. I think he meant that.
Speaker 5: I'm not if I'm not mistaken. He said last night
Speaker 5: that he does and see anything in the foreseeable future
Speaker 5: of them going out and doing anything in free not
Speaker 5: free agency, but.
Speaker 6: In the trade.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 4: But would it even matter?
Speaker 6: You're this bad? They're not one player away, so they're
Speaker 6: not you can matter. You can go get a Mark.
Speaker 5: Cooper or you can I can't say other players, but
Speaker 5: you can go get other players. You're not one player
Speaker 5: away on either side of the right.
Speaker 4: So, as ownership looking at this thing, what are you
Speaker 4: doing behind the scenes, because you're like, look, we do
Speaker 4: you start thinking about the future? Do you start thinking about.
Speaker 7: Like, okay, already have.
Speaker 4: Where can we say money, Are we looking at the draft.
Speaker 7: Or were next year?
Speaker 10: They already have the way this team is built and
Speaker 10: lined up, they are all already say Okay, we've done
Speaker 10: what we're gonna do financially.
Speaker 7: That was with Dak and cd uh.
Speaker 10: They told you at the beginning of the year they
Speaker 10: were happy with this team, that they wasn't gonna be trading,
Speaker 10: that they wasn't gonna do it free.
Speaker 7: They already have. This is it?
Speaker 10: That's why, you know, cause you know me, I'm always
Speaker 10: kind of panicking doing the off season. Man, this dude
Speaker 10: doesne told us more than once, and he's showing.
Speaker 7: It by with his money.
Speaker 5: And he told us all every week. He tells it
Speaker 5: like our guys like I got, telling this roster like
Speaker 5: I got. He's been telling us every week.
Speaker 4: So as a fan, I'm looking at it going, Okay,
Speaker 4: it is what it is. I got.
Speaker 9: I got to tough this one out this year. Hopefully
Speaker 9: everybody gets healthy and we can have a respectable record
Speaker 9: at the end of the year. As a fan, I'm
Speaker 9: looking at it going I probably have a new coaching
Speaker 9: staff next year. Looking at it the way it is
Speaker 9: right now, When does it get better next year, two years,
Speaker 9: three years, because.
Speaker 7: I got them in about two and a half years,
Speaker 7: we should be back. Men just going at it about
Speaker 7: NFC super Bowl. You know, we know, we.
Speaker 8: Know a lengthy playoff run is that's never happening. But
Speaker 8: is even making the playoffs out of the question? I mean,
Speaker 8: I like, again, no, there one.
Speaker 6: Game behind first place?
Speaker 7: Right now?
Speaker 6: Why? Right?
Speaker 9: Like so that as bad as your three losses, it
Speaker 9: felt that is crazy to think you can still turn
Speaker 9: this around.
Speaker 5: The the hopeless part is is that as you're get
Speaker 5: to look at begin to look at the schedule, you
Speaker 5: start thinking to yourself, well, we got the Boombox boys
Speaker 5: in two weeks, right, and then we don't know what Atlanta.
Speaker 6: Team is going to come in. Well, when we go
Speaker 6: down there to Atlanta.
Speaker 4: To play, then you got Washington twice and.
Speaker 5: They're playing some good football. So what what used to
Speaker 5: be a sweep? Maybe it's a split down.
Speaker 4: And New York's not terrible terrible.
Speaker 5: You know, and Philly's gotten all their people back, right
Speaker 5: like they look different when they got two receivers out
Speaker 5: that I can actually play receiver, right like when they
Speaker 5: when they had Davonte Smith and AJ Brown out there,
Speaker 5: they look, they look pretty okay on offense, and as
Speaker 5: they begin that trend of building those guys up, they
Speaker 5: can be a force to be reckoned with. But the
Speaker 5: three it just feels hopeless because of the way that
Speaker 5: you lost. And so now going forward, if you aren't
Speaker 5: going to make any additions, We've seen what this team
Speaker 5: looked like fully equipped defensively with Tank, with Micah healthy,
Speaker 5: and we saw them up against Baltimore and in New
Speaker 5: Orleans too, we saw without those guys, and that was
Speaker 5: this past Sunday. So nothing gives you hope that whatever
Speaker 5: was coming back will be able to fix what was
Speaker 5: ailing them when they left, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: Like that doesn't change that. So it just it just
Speaker 5: feels a lot more hopeless because of the wind they
Speaker 5: got whooped in those three losses.
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Speaker 11: Who?
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Speaker 4: We got Eric in North Carolina. Here he is, Eric,
Speaker 4: how do you feed?
Speaker 12: Hey?
Speaker 14: Guys?
Speaker 17: Hey guys, what's up?
Speaker 11: Kurt?
Speaker 12: What's up?
Speaker 17: Mate? What's up?
Speaker 11: Jesse?
Speaker 15: What else? Shannon?
Speaker 12: And guys?
Speaker 6: Don't forget Chris. I don't huh, don't forget Chris.
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, Chris went. But you know, guys, I just
Speaker 17: came to it. I had a pizzany last night that
Speaker 17: I'm addicted. I having a dig ship. I take that
Speaker 17: shot of that hope.
Speaker 4: It's not that kind of show, Eric, you know, And
Speaker 4: let me just.
Speaker 17: Say this, Burton Testy, I apologize Jess. A couple of
Speaker 17: weeks I called and I and I'm in sinuated that
Speaker 17: late was a new voice of reason on the show.
Speaker 17: I had to send that you are the true voice
Speaker 17: of reason. And I apologize to you, sir, because I
Speaker 17: had to pick for me last night.
Speaker 15: I need to go.
Speaker 17: I'm going to football rehab. I think it was taking
Speaker 17: myself in around Wednesday because I take that shot of that.
Speaker 15: Hope of your man and I'll be sidered. Whoo e lated?
Speaker 17: You know, But when you got how come down?
Speaker 7: Baby?
Speaker 17: You back down in reality.
Speaker 15: You just barely making.
Speaker 17: It out here. I need help, guys, Okay, I was
Speaker 17: gonna get some help because it ain't looking too promishing.
Speaker 17: You just nailed it. You just nailed it, Jesse. I
Speaker 17: don't care what you're selling. It can be Teddy Bears,
Speaker 17: Gummy Bears, Chicago Bears. If it's not the business isn't ran, like,
Speaker 17: you're gonna get residual effects of how the business is ran. Okay,
Speaker 17: And he just get your whole illustrious list and why
Speaker 17: how it was not ran right? And he couldn't have
Speaker 17: been more spot on one. So I just want to say, hey,
Speaker 17: maybe next time I call it being better spirits. But
Speaker 17: for right now, guys, this is wrong. This is wrong, okay,
Speaker 17: and play for my wellness. Okay, guys, I love you all,
Speaker 17: because this gotta get better.
Speaker 4: It will keep your head up. Man, it doesn't have
Speaker 4: to get better.
Speaker 5: I'll keep saying that that's the problem.
Speaker 10: That is not that is the problem. You should have
Speaker 10: kept me as your voice of reason. Then you could
Speaker 10: have stayed in fantasyland.
Speaker 6: You hope you see.
Speaker 7: I stayed on the hope see you could have stayed
Speaker 7: on it.
Speaker 10: But now you want to go back to reality now
Speaker 10: you in rehacity.
Speaker 7: It could get worse.
Speaker 10: Yeah, these players stopped really really believing. I mean, I
Speaker 10: know what we saw yesterday, Like do they really believe?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Trust me week in and week out of this because.
Speaker 4: For the most part, most part, there might have been
Speaker 4: a couple of guys. Did they get did they give
Speaker 4: up yesterday?
Speaker 9: Let me ask you all that. Did you see there
Speaker 9: was as a team? Did they was their give up?
Speaker 10: Let me tell you why because if your team, if
Speaker 10: you give up, we've seen give up.
Speaker 7: Let me tell you why, and that'll get you.
Speaker 4: Let go on the flight back.
Speaker 7: Right and let me tell you why.
Speaker 10: With five minutes left in the game, a six minute
Speaker 10: eleven game, did you see a flux of new players
Speaker 10: running the game?
Speaker 4: M m whole squad?
Speaker 10: Well, what are you trying to do? Give them some
Speaker 10: playing time? Are you trying to win the game? Oh,
Speaker 10: you just gonna say we done lost this game. Let's
Speaker 10: put the second team in. So now you make your decision.
Speaker 9: M hm m.
Speaker 6: You said this started on the coaches gave up?
Speaker 10: Did you only see this in basketball? Because they got
Speaker 10: eighty two games? We want to help seven.
Speaker 6: That's a good point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Chris, we got any more?
Speaker 7: Yes, we do. All right, let's go to the phones.
Speaker 4: This is Larry in New Jersey. Larry, how do you
Speaker 4: me today?
Speaker 12: First from I'm from actually on a town called Pennsauken.
Speaker 12: I'm surrounded by Eagles fans and they're loving what happened today.
Speaker 12: But yesterday, but to me, to me honest with the guys,
Speaker 12: it looked like, uh, first they were taking the school
Speaker 12: and then take them behind the witches. Take behind the witch.
Speaker 12: It for the old fashioned butt whooping. It was. It
Speaker 12: was embarrassing. And if you're a Cowboys fan and anybody
Speaker 12: anybody asked you a question, how do you how can
Speaker 12: you defend yourself as a fan acker watching what happened
Speaker 12: in front of your eyes?
Speaker 8: What did what did you think? And not posed this
Speaker 8: to you and you guys like, what did you think?
Speaker 8: If it's obviously Dan Campbell wanted to embarrassed. They didn't
Speaker 8: want to just win. He wanted to embarrass What did
Speaker 8: you think about that?
Speaker 6: Did you?
Speaker 7: Did? You?
Speaker 6: As a as a player?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I loved it. I'm petty like that, and so.
Speaker 7: I love I am.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm all for petty damn.
Speaker 5: But I remember we talked about that during the week,
Speaker 5: and I was like, he's over there telling these dudes
Speaker 5: like we are so much better than them, Like they
Speaker 5: cut the film on it was like, Oh, we got
Speaker 5: cheated last year. That's what they felt. Now we're gonna
Speaker 5: come in here and leave no doubt. We're gonna come
Speaker 5: in here and leave no doubt. They they they toy
Speaker 5: with them eleven eleven eligible offensive lineman eligible plays they ran.
Speaker 5: They had one lineup at X they ran up. They
Speaker 5: ran a hooking ladder with one they.
Speaker 6: Threw play soon they threw. They threw a seam route
Speaker 6: to one in the end zone.
Speaker 4: That was almost a hell of a cat. Yeah, like
Speaker 4: that dude had some hands.
Speaker 5: They're not only that offensively. Defensively they mocked zim. They
Speaker 5: ran a double a gap blitz which I ain't never
Speaker 5: seen them run all Yeah, and the team they lined
Speaker 5: up mugged up in the eight gaps, drop one, set
Speaker 5: the other one like they were they their goal was.
Speaker 6: And it didn't punt at all.
Speaker 5: The one time. Dan Campbell's goal was not to come
Speaker 5: in here and just win. His goal was to come
Speaker 5: in here and embarrass you in front of your home fans.
Speaker 6: And he did that.
Speaker 5: He did that, and they were like, I remember in
Speaker 5: Pop Warner when we were blowing teams out, Hey.
Speaker 6: Guys, hey, coach, coach, coach, coach, Hey, can I go
Speaker 6: play receiver?
Speaker 5: And he'd be like, little little, little fat Johnny could
Speaker 5: never play receiver. But because we're up five touchdown, all right, man,
Speaker 5: go out here and play receiver. Let's let's throw.
Speaker 6: Johnny goal route, and we want.
Speaker 5: A little Johnny chug its way down the field and
Speaker 5: the ball hit him in the side.
Speaker 6: That's what they were doing.
Speaker 5: They were they were having at the end of the game,
Speaker 5: they were having Pop Warner fields to it.
Speaker 8: Should the Cowboys players have reacted differently to that.
Speaker 5: These guys don't care, Kurt, they don't care. I shouldn't
Speaker 5: generalize everyone. A large majority of these players on this
Speaker 5: football team, and it's it's just a different it's a
Speaker 5: different generation. They don't care. They don't care. They they
Speaker 5: they they they worried about like they're they they finished
Speaker 5: up the finishing touches to their bye week trip. Okay,
Speaker 5: they'll get to the meetings today and do they gotta
Speaker 5: do today and they'll have their assignment of houndid days
Speaker 5: they have off and when they got to you know,
Speaker 5: they got to come to work today to watch the film.
Speaker 6: But these guys they live.
Speaker 10: It were laughing at double seven. He faked itself. Hey,
Speaker 10: I am one hundred percent with you. When we used
Speaker 10: to be getting them three and thirteen whoopings and one
Speaker 10: in fifteen whoopings, and Coach John said, when we get
Speaker 10: our opportunity, fellas were coming from some payback and he
Speaker 10: told us, he say, promise you we wouldn't and I
Speaker 10: would never ask you to shake some one's hand after game.
Speaker 10: And I was like, this is my man.
Speaker 7: I am petty, Like, what what do you do?
Speaker 9: If you're the coach of this team? Right, you can
Speaker 9: only play the players that you have. You're so beat up.
Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody could have.
Speaker 9: I mean, it is what it is on the field, right,
Speaker 9: If you're the coach of this.
Speaker 4: Team, you're on a one year deal. You've got three ugly, ugly,
Speaker 4: ugly losses, Like what is that locker what is that
Speaker 4: side of the building?
Speaker 9: Like this week, I mean it's a bye week, so
Speaker 9: thank goodness you get some time off, but what is it?
Speaker 4: Have you lost the locker room after a loss like that?
Speaker 4: Three ugly losses, like, what is what is the vibe
Speaker 4: over there?
Speaker 6: If I'm the head coach.
Speaker 5: If I was the head coach, I would be trying
Speaker 5: to convince whoever whatever about the fact that we still
Speaker 5: have a lot of football left and we're three and three,
Speaker 5: Like I'm whatever, ugly as it is, We're still on
Speaker 5: it as it is, We're still in the mix.
Speaker 4: And just turn it around just a little bit where
Speaker 4: we're now.
Speaker 6: For him, it can't be just lip service right there.
Speaker 5: When these guys come back from their time off, there
Speaker 5: needs to be something that is visibly tangible that's different
Speaker 5: offensively and defensively. They have to be able to come
Speaker 5: into the building and go, oh, this is different from
Speaker 5: what we've been doing. Oh, this is different from what
Speaker 5: we've been doing, because that's the only way to kind
Speaker 5: of reinvigorate the spirits of the guy. Because if I
Speaker 5: come back off the by and we're back to the
Speaker 5: same bull, the same bull that we were on before
Speaker 5: we left, I'm out, bro. I'm like, oh, when you
Speaker 5: sing I know the Taken beat.
Speaker 4: And you say that, are you talking about like the
Speaker 4: signs that are hanging around at the schedule.
Speaker 6: The practice is the playbook, the.
Speaker 4: Intensity and practice, all of.
Speaker 5: Them, everything, everything, There has to be tangible differences, Like
Speaker 5: I have to feel as a player that over this
Speaker 5: time you're doing something to make you're doing something to
Speaker 5: make this better. Right, you're talking about looking in the
Speaker 5: mirastic changes. There has to be drastic changes. You have
Speaker 5: to come in and say, you know what, guys, here
Speaker 5: here's the deal, here's here's the we're.
Speaker 6: Gonna we thrown it all out there. You know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: We gotta beat the Niners because if not, they're gonna
Speaker 5: embarrass us too. And here's how we're gonna do it.
Speaker 5: But if you come back in and you give me
Speaker 5: the same thing that we had before we left, I'm
Speaker 5: looking at you and like, hey, I've been here for
Speaker 5: the last couple of years. I know what them boombox
Speaker 5: Boy's gonna do. And that plan that you was put
Speaker 5: up on that board, the same one we had the
Speaker 5: last two or three times we went against them. I'm
Speaker 5: I can't believe in that. Yeah, you see what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 5: I can't believe because I hope that there is enough
Speaker 5: realization in that locker room where players are saying, I
Speaker 5: know what, you know what your locker room is you
Speaker 5: know the talent level. You know, you can stand in
Speaker 5: front of the press all you want and be like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we like this and our guys and I'm standing tall,
Speaker 5: and you know, if you want to jump off jumping
Speaker 5: all that cool, that's fine. When you go home and
Speaker 5: you had you and you sitting in your well, I
Speaker 5: don't know where you're living that nine because he knocked
Speaker 5: his house down. But if you go home and you
Speaker 5: sitting in your quiet time, you know what your team is.
Speaker 5: You know who your team is. You know what it is.
Speaker 6: You know who are the dogs and you know who
Speaker 6: the pussy cats.
Speaker 7: You know all of that.
Speaker 6: You know all of that.
Speaker 5: And so if you're going to if you're going to
Speaker 5: be able to convince me as a player that things
Speaker 5: have changed, I need to We talked about the way
Speaker 5: Phillips situation when when when when he got fired and
Speaker 5: Jason Garrett came in, there was a tangible change. The
Speaker 5: playbook literally changed. And we sat back and it was like,
Speaker 5: it was this for the last but we can I
Speaker 5: can get down with this.
Speaker 4: I say, saying it out loud now makes it makes sense. R.
Speaker 4: I can get down with this because change it was
Speaker 4: the change, and it was a shock at first because
Speaker 4: we look you flipping places and you're.
Speaker 7: Saying, what.
Speaker 6: What the hell these plays been?
Speaker 7: Like I ain't.
Speaker 5: Oh, I can get behind this like this looks fun,
Speaker 5: this looks like we're actually gonna go.
Speaker 6: We're not running the same Harvey routes.
Speaker 5: We're not running on saying if you come back in
Speaker 5: there and these guys looking at the same up to
Speaker 5: double slid, Here come to hitch routes, Here come the comebacks.
Speaker 5: They're gonna be like, dog, what you do over the week.
Speaker 5: I know I was in Cabo. What you do over
Speaker 5: the week, that's gonna make me believe that we're gonna
Speaker 5: be able to have a chance to beat the thing.
Speaker 4: My trip is safe.
Speaker 7: All I know.
Speaker 10: Used the right players too, well, I just don't. I
Speaker 10: just think, Dak go to the open guy. I don't
Speaker 10: care how it looks and who what people think.
Speaker 4: Don't don't you.
Speaker 10: You can't force things, make uh trying to say the
Speaker 10: defense by making a tremendous play, say, if you have
Speaker 10: to dink and dunk, It's been quarterbacks that have made
Speaker 10: their living dinking and dunking down the field, two things
Speaker 10: it does unless the players know that if you're open,
Speaker 10: I'm gonna get you the ball. And number two it
Speaker 10: saves your defense, your defenses and shambles. So I'm asking
Speaker 10: dak Man just make the correct thoat, you know, And
Speaker 10: I know CD gonna get mad. He have to get mad.
Speaker 10: He's a competitor. But for the sake of the team,
Speaker 10: no more bad interceptions.
Speaker 7: I don't care. No more bad interceptions.
Speaker 3: All right, fellas, If you want to see Kurt, tune
Speaker 3: in on Thursday only before the show room.
Speaker 4: Tomorrow tomorrow because he's going down next two days. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Tuesday tomorrow only, I got my tea's messed up Tuesday
Speaker 4: and third tomorrow right before the show, and then Jesse
Speaker 4: and Nate will be on right after the show. So
Speaker 4: tune in and I will be right here.
Speaker 7: We will have all news.
Speaker 10: I want y'all to understand. I counseled. Uh oh, Marquis Bell. Yeah,
Speaker 10: I kind of like he say he cannot answer questions
Speaker 10: for number seven.
Speaker 4: Are we gonna Are we gonna have him on when
Speaker 4: we come back?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, this storm the residue from Detroit at least special.
Speaker 5: It's crazy that you gotta you got the dog, you
Speaker 5: got a dog fight I want the dog fight. You
Speaker 5: got in a whooping against Detroit and when you finally
Speaker 5: got a chance to really come through. Okay, what happened
Speaker 5: to me? You got the fortnight is looking at you,
Speaker 5: you like God, that's a that's a that's a daunting task.
Speaker 4: All right, good stuff, fellas glad we were able to
Speaker 4: at least kind of light light the yeh. Otherwise, thank you, Priscilla.
Speaker 7: What is that thing when we say how do you?
Speaker 7: How do you? Today?
Speaker 5: I gotta also got to give a shout out to uh,
Speaker 5: to my boy Jack, Jack, who we all had dinner with,
Speaker 5: right we went to dinner Jack, Yeah, yeah, and Jack
Speaker 5: then broke his dang foot ankle man something. He was
Speaker 5: down there in the Tornados. Man the hurricane, I mean
Speaker 5: Milton man messed around and broke his foot.
Speaker 11: Brother.
Speaker 5: So so Jack man, get well soon, man, get back healthy, man,
Speaker 5: Get back.
Speaker 6: On your good foot.
Speaker 4: And then Gilbert Valdez sent me a DM on Instagram
Speaker 4: and he said, tell Jesse to calm down on the
Speaker 4: fries and the deep Elm women on his postgame show.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 10: Whatever that means, Okay, hey Jack, what we'll do is
Speaker 10: we'll send three pumps down there.
Speaker 7: Since he Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air.
Speaker 3: Josh and Jazz thanks for keeping him company. We will
Speaker 3: be back tomorrow with a different crew.
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