WEBVTT - Impeachment, Lawfare and Fallout 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.520 An hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred nine to 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:04.240 four one, Shawn, if you want to be a part 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:06.840 of the programmer, I sold a lot of news that 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:08.760 we're going to kind of sum up in this this 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:13.480 Friday hour. One fascinating thing that is going to be 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:18.000 interesting to watch unfold legally is after Tulsei Gabbard sent 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.760 a criminal referral to the DOJ targeting the Inspector General 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.200 and the CIA analyst whistleblower that wasn't a real whistleblower. 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:28.920 As it relates to the first impeachment, you got to 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:32.800 wonder is that going to be vacated? Can't it be vacated? 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:37.120 The Constitution doesn't say anything specifically about it. I believe 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:41.919 it was Andrew Jackson that had censure, and later Congress 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.880 removed that. I'm pretty sure it was him, and I 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.519 saw comments recently by Professor Alan Dershowitz, who has a 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:52.120 brand new book out which we're going to get to 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:56.160 the topic of as well. Could President Trump constitutionally serve 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.200 a third term? Just the title of it is going 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.319 to piss off so many people of cracks me out. 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:04.040 Mahek Cook is with us as well, a senior national 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.160 security legal analysts for The Daily Signal. We're going to 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.319 get into the Iranian issue with both of them as well. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.880 I want to start on the law, considering they're both 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.440 brilliant on a professor, We'll start with you can the 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:19.039 president serve a third term? And could this Ukrainian impeachment 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.600 based on this new information be vacated? 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.720 They're both hard questions. It's never happened before, of course, 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.840 but I do think that in a criminal case, if 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.480 you discover evidence that was with Hell that would have 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:38.640 exculpated the defendant, he can get the indictment dismissed, he 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.959 can get the conviction reverse. So I think there's a 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.480 good argument that an impeachment can be undone as well, 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.560 if you find people who would have voted against the 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.760 impeachment had they gotten the information. And we know there 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.000 are several people who voted for impeachment to may very 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:59.760 well decide that they would have differently had they known 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.960 all the information that was withhealth from them. So I 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.640 think there's a strong case for it. There's no precedent. 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:10.680 You're right about Andrew Jackson. They did rescind a censure 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.680 application that was the Senate. This is the House, but 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.200 that is probably the closest thing we have to a precedent. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.440 I have now gone back and read the congressional debates 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:25.400 about impeachment, and I've read the Jefferson Manuel about the 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.799 House of Representatives, and I can find nothing either way. 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.080 So it's a blank slate. And when you have a 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:35.120 blank slate, that's what good lawyers love. So I'm thinking 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.320 about it, and who knows, maybe we'll file something. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:39.600 I don't know. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:43.440 If I had to guess, you probably would. I know 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:49.520 Jay Sekulo of the A C l J was involved 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.800 in that impeachment case, and this was information he brought 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.160 up all the time based on what we know that 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.520 we haven't seen. And I think, my heck, if you 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.600 look at you know, prior to president, if a case 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:06.920 comes before a judge and exculpatory information was withheld from 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:11.360 the defense, that is usually very strong grounds for dismissal. 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.799 In this case, vacating no right. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.440 Yes, And I've won a lot of cases on appeal 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:21.880 based on what's called the Brady or Jiglio Supreme Court 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:26.799 decisions would say that a conviction can't stand if information 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.560 that was material was withheld, And I think the same 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.840 arguments would apply to impeachment, which is a quazy criminal 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:38.880 proceeding that follows many of the rules. In fact, in 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:44.240 the Jefferson Manual it says that impeachment should follow generally 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.800 the rules of criminal cases. So we have a little 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:47.840 bit of support there. 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.600 What do you think, ma heck Cook Jehn. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.760 I think this is going to be very difficult. There's 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.600 definitely a sculpatory evidence, and I think if we could 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:01.080 use Brady, that's a route towards reverse this record. I 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.280 also think there's an opportunity again for Congress and the 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.480 House to look at this. I know it would be 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:10.400 a symbolic move, but what about clearing the record that way? 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.880 So at least if we can't go through the legal route, 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.560 as Alan has outlined, then potentially at least the American 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.320 people know the truth and we can litigate this in 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:23.040 the American public because far too often it's mainstream media 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.400 that gets to have the final word. So I think 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.320 this should be really litigated in the House as well. 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.160 I agree it's that I think it would do. 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.680 I think it would do very well there. All right, 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.960 moving on, let's get to this. Can the president serve 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:41.480 a third term? The premise of Professor Dershowitz's book The Heck. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.559 Before I get into more specificity with him, can Donald 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.000 Trump go for a third term? 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.320 Look Sean. My personal feelings on this, taking off my 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.800 legal hat is absolutely. I think what President Trump has 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.680 done through this term alone, within a year plus in office, 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:01.360 he has continued to dominate, whether it's safety and security 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:06.040 at borders to delivering tax relief. We finally had tax 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.640 Day come up and Americans are celebrating that the government 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.719 isn't bankrupting us like they did under Joe Biden. But 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.680 all that aside, all my politics aside. The twenty second 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.119 Amendment says no person shall be elected to the office 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:19.560 of the President more than twice. 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:21.039 So I think unless. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.760 There's a clever argument, I stand by that. But I 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.880 think that President Trump has paved a path for future 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.440 leaders Jadie Vance, Marco Rubio. There's going to be a 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.920 gamut of people on the right that actually can pick 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.400 up the helm and lead just like Trump did. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:38.800 Professor Derisha, it's your thoughts. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.000 Yeah, unless there are clever arguments. Well, my book has 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:46.839 seven clever arguments for why President Trump could So you 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:47.360 say that. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:51.239 Very humbly, Professor I mean, with all due respect, go ahead, 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.800 I'm kidding, no, I mean there. 0:05:53.480 --> 0:06:00.680 For example, if the vice presidency becomes vacant, the statutes 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:05.560 in the twenty second and other amendments provide that the 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.719 vice president can be appointed, can be appointed by the 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.160 President with the consent of the Senate. And if Trump 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.720 were to be appointed vice president to another president and 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:20.200 then that president were to resign, being each die or whatever, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.719 he could then ascend to the presidency. The twenty second 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:27.640 Amendment does not prohibit a president from serving, only from 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.520 being elected. In fact, the framers of the twenty second 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:35.560 Amendment were given proposals to say that a president couldn't serve, 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.000 couldn't act, couldn't be and they turned them, all of 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.240 them down, and they said, no, we're not going to 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.080 do that. We're just going to say he can't be elected. 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:47.560 And so there is a hole, a large hole in 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.520 the twenty second Amendment, bigger than the new ballroom of 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.919 the White House through which President Trump could serve a 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.919 third term. Now would he do it? I was with 0:06:58.000 --> 0:06:59.760 him in the Oval office. I presented him with a 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:01.840 cop be of my book and he got a good 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.400 laugh out of it. And you know, he basically basically 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.960 suggested that, you know, he's not thinking about that. But 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:13.240 for example, if the Democrats were to nominate some terrible, 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:18.520 terrible person like AOC or one of the other extreme radicals, 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.360 people who they are now electing to the Senate, and 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.880 Trump were to be told that the only way of 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.240 defeating and destroying the country would be for him to 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.200 serve a third term, he would he would, you know, 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.840 he loves the country. He would be sympathetic to that, 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:33.960 and he would call me and say, hey, what can 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.440 we do to get me in for a third term? 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.440 And I would give him. I would give him the advice, 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:39.239 I give him the book. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.040 As long as we're talking about the presidency, some very 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:46.960 interesting developments on the Democratic side. It looks like mister Nosho, 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:51.720 Governor Gavin Newsom full time Trump stalker, Halftime Hannity stalker. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.520 Now we find Gavin Newsom's pack at one point five 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.400 million dollars to buy copies of his book. Doesn't sound 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.840 like he's very confident that any anyone would want to 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:04.040 buy it on their own, although Katie Kirk and Gavin 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.400 Doo agree that he's very handsome and that could be 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.960 very troubling for him. In the campaign trail and also 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:14.120 out in California, Chris Ruffo filmed encounters with transgender illegal 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:18.960 immigrants outside of San Francisco, homeless shelter apparently getting taxpayer 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:24.160 funded boob jobs, and sex change operations in California. Republicans 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.640 now are all over these bluestates for keeping taxes on 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:31.880 tips and overtime which the president had put in place, 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.760 you know, and the scandals keep getting bigger and bigger 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:40.600 into the billions of dollars of misappropriated funds for non 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:44.360 existent daycare centers and non existent hospice care. 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:49.160 Heck, cook, well, Sean, you're nailing a huge issue right now. 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.480 It's the Democrat collapse you're talking about. Newsom, who's supposed 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.320 to be the front runner would be president who got 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.959 caught right buying two thirds of his best selling book, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.680 as he puts it, using pack money. I'd love to 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.120 have the Justice Department look at this, because that looks 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.560 like fest to me. And the worst part about this 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:08.920 is this man wants to run the country when he 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.240 can't even run an honest book launch, and we have 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.280 the highest fraud in his state. But make no mistake, 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.400 It's not just red blue states, it's red states. You 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.920 and I have talked about fraud in Ohio and how 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.599 people in charge here want to hide from it. Do 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.040 you know I have visited dozens of daycares where we 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:30.600 are sending federal money, state money included, and when I 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.920 go there, there's no children in there sean, and I 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.360 ask questions about where the money is going, and nobody 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.440 wants to answer the questions. Most of the people are 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.760 Somalians here speaking Somali, so how are you supposed to 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.079 send your children to these daycares? But this is the 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.800 biggest problem in America is what Elon did through DOJ. 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:52.320 We have continued to rob from American taxpayers and government 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.640 is complicit. And I don't care if you're a Republican 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.920 or a Democrat today, It's happening anytime you have welfare. 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:59.079 So Democrats are. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:09:59.640 Running from it. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.280 Republicans are just as complexe that I'm seeing it in 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.959 the state of Ohio, where people refuse to take this seriously. 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:28.480 Yeah, I think we're all seeing it all right. 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:32.200 We continue with Maheck Cook and Professor Alan Dershowitz. He 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.040 has a new bookies launch. Did President Trump constitutionally serve 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.240 at their term. I could just see the left bubble 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.040 and fizzing like alca seltza in water. Anyway, our final 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.200 moments would then and then your calls are coming up 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.920 straight ahead as we continue this Friday. Do you think, 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:52.520 Professor Dershowitz, that this in any way hurts Gavin's chances 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.360 of securing the Democratic nomination. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.000 I do. I think the thing that hurts the most 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:01.240 is that the Democratic Party today is because the most 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:07.200 anti Israel party in the history of America. And you know, 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.120 Democrats used to be able to count on pro Israel 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.440 support and Jewish support. I just wrote an our bed 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.520 piece that I've submitted saying why nobody who supports Israel, 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.800 whether you're Jew, Christian, or Muslim, can in any way 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:25.640 vote Democrat anymore? The Democratic Party has become the party 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.600 that is most strongly post Israel, the becoming like the 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.680 European left wing parties of England and other places that 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:37.400 are automatic knee jerk opposition to Israel. And I think 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.600 that's become a real liability for the Democratic Party. And 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.080 by the way, Israel is the canary in the mind. 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.680 The mind is America. And if you're opposed to Israel, 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.000 which is fighting a defensive war. You're opposed to America. 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.920 Look at Tom Friedman of the New York Times. He writes, 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.040 he's on television the other day in which he says, 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:04.840 I am born torn between supporting Iran, the worst terrorist 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:09.440 country in history. I'm torn between supporting Iran or supporting 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:13.840 America because Trump is so terrible in Natanya, who is 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:17.199 so terrible? So I mean here, he is practically rooting 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.880 for Iran. And that's what the Democratic Party is doing 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.360 these days. And they're turning against America. They're turning against 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:28.320 Western values, they're turning against Judeo Christian values. And I 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.520 think a lot of American voters are going to understand 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.840 that we're a centerist country and we don't want political 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.840 leaders who are opposed to American values. 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.839 What do you both think, ma Heck, I'll start with you. 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.040 We both heard all these women come out and make 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:49.559 very severe allegations in a couple of the instances outright 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:54.480 rape by congressmen and former good manatorial candidate mister Fang 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:59.839 Fang Eric Swolwell. I have found that their interviews were 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:05.600 so believable and compelling, and there's so many people that 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.360 I have a hard time believing if they told those 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.400 stories that way before any jury, that they would get 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.599 anything other than a conviction pretty immediately. 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.240 Is his arrest likely imminent? 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.680 The rest has to be imminent, Sean, because if the 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:24.319 DOJ does not take this seriously, the rule of law 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.160 is just going to evaporate. The Republican Party has spent 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.640 four years saying nobody is above the law, just like Democrats, 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.080 and now we're going to prove it. The worst part 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:37.000 is about Swallow. He lectured America about President Trump's character 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.640 for years, and now he's accused of drugging and raping women. 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:42.880 And let me tell you, there's a digital footprint. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:43.840 It doesn't lie. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.800 There's going to be financial records that the FBI and 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.640 dj can go through. They can look at his campaign 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.760 finance and they can start looking at where these women 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:56.680 were and continue to make this huge timeline. And I 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.320 also think, Sean, there's many other women that are going 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.839 to feel to speak out. The worst part about all 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.760 of this is that Swawell, even Gallego who stood up 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:08.200 at a press conference and cried, he said he didn't know. 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:09.520 Just listen to their words. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:10.760 These Democrats aren'tlying. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.440 He then admitted in the same breath that everybody in 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.400 Washington knew and heard these rumors. Well, look, if it's 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.600 a pattern, it's no longer a rumor, and we have 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.520 to start investigating it. These are the same Democrats that 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:27.040 are holding hostage a congressional release of every sexual misconduct violation. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.400 And by the way, Republicans are complicit in this, we 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.440 should be releasing that taxpayers are funding this. I mean, 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.960 we have such a moral problem in America today and 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.080 if we don't actually get justice for these women, it's 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.600 going to keep happening. Sean, I've seen it firsthand. Men 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:46.160 do not like taking no for any type of response 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.280 from women when they hold power. I've been fortunate, though, 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.280 I've been able to walk away from positions because I 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.200 haven't cared about the money on the table. Many of 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.360 these young interns, that's their livelihood. 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:56.560 They're terrified. 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.880 This is disgusting. It has to be done. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:01.960 There are just evil people in the world, and there 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.560 are evil predators in the world, and it's just sad. 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:09.680 And I found the credibility of these women to be 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:14.120 on the highest level and the charge is so despicable 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:18.840 that I can't imagine that this guy is gonna it's 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:22.160 gonna avoid jail, but you never know with a jury. Anyway, 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.800 We appreciate both of your kind of news roundup segment 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.720 this Friday, eight hundred and ninety four one Shawn Maheck 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.040 Cook and Professor Derschwitz is with us. 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:31.240 Thank you both. 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:06.920 The New Sean Hennity Show talking about what's right for 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:11.320 America Weather renewed commitment to keep you up to date 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.680 on the breaking news stories. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.320 You know, I knew I'd get a lot of blow 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.680 by brush back. I've been doing this now. I started 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.440 in radio in nineteen eighty seven, and you know when 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:29.040 you take a strong position on a controversial issue that 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:33.240 that sometimes you know that you're going to anger people. However, 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.000 I think I have an obligation to my audience to 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.760 be truthful. And when it comes to the controversy between 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:44.520 the Pope Pope Leo and with Donald Trump and the 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.760 Pope saying that God does not bless any conflict, I 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:53.320 knew by taking that on that I would get people angry. 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.560 And it has gotten people angry, and a lot of 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.160 articles have been written and a lot of nasty comment. 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.560 Who the heck is Sean Hannity to tell the pope 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.840 that he does he needs to read the Bible. Well, 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.480 I was pointing out that in the Bible, in the 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.359 Bible consists of the Old and New Testament. He said, 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:16.200 God does not bless any conflict. Now is the God 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.200 of the Old Testament the same God of the New Testament. 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.600 Did Jesus not come to fulfill the law? Did Jesus 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.560 not come to do his father's will? Did Jesus not 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.320 say I am my father? 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:28.840 Are one? 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.080 That would mean that God has not changed. When Moses 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.200 saw the burning bush and he says, well, who should 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:35.520 I say? 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:39.080 Sent me? I am sent me? It's to me. 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:43.720 My interpretation, and that of many theological scholars, would be 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.560 that God always was, is, ever present, always will be. 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.439 That God does not live in the space of time 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:52.359 the way human beings do. 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:53.840 But I knew i'd get blowback. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:55.640 I'm going to get some right now, Mike, and San 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.320 Antonio disagrees with me. 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:58.560 Mike, I am glad you called. 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:03.080 Glad you're listening, and I'm. 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.280 Appreciative of any constructive criticism. Go for it. 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.240 How you doing, Sean. I'm a deacon in the Catholic 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.960 Church in San Antonio, I've been listening to you forever, 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.359 and I love you. I'll stay with you, But I 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.880 do have a problem with your position on the Catholic 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.080 Church being Catholic before and then the reason why you left. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.560 So I was just saying, you know, the way that 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.240 you didn't agree with the way the church handled the scandal, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:28.240 but it's no different than Congressman Gonzales handling you know 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.440 his predicament. Why don't I just leave the Republican Party? 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.320 You know, I want to know what how you feel 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.520 leaving the church. What did Jesus have to do with it? 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.240 The Church is full of humans, and humans make mistakes, 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:41.040 and so therefore let. 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.400 Me ask you, did you hear the entirety of my comments? 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.919 Because I went through I was an altar boy. I 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:51.959 went to Catholic schools for twelve years. I studied in height, 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.280 I went to a seminary for high school, I studied 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.040 theology in Latin, went to Mass every day. I told 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:01.439 I went into great detail how the Catholic Church formed 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.760 a very solid foundation for me and my conscience, and 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.520 I'm grateful to the Church. I talked about how much 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.240 I loved the Mass and the Eucharist, and so on 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.359 and so forth. Did you did you get all of that? 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:15.560 Did you hear all of that? 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:16.040 Dude? 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:16.840 I do? 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.760 But but again I feel that with your with your 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.920 reach and the platform that you have, I felt that 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.000 that was really a small reason to leave the church 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.640 because it was something that humans did, and I don't 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.160 understand what Jesus had to do with with I. 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:33.480 Think it's broader than that though. 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.600 Why or is it a fact or not that eleven 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:40.200 or the twelve apostles were married. Jesus picked married men. 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.000 Is it a fact that for the first twelve hundred 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.919 or so years of the church that priests were allowed 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.400 to marry? Yes, but that's that is a church given rule. 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.080 You're a deacon, I bet you'd be a great candidate 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:56.720 to be a priest, And unfortunately that rule has resulted 0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:01.320 in a very very small percent of the population that 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.679 would like like to join the priestthood that otherwise would 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.800 in my opinion, and that was a church decision on 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:13.360 the corruption issue, it was for me, it was I 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:17.879 just think that foundationally, I think it's probably rooted in 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.560 that basically, if you applied, you became a priest, because 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:25.040 I mean, you have a dwindling percentage of the population 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:28.159 that want to live their lives unmarried. And I'm assuming 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:32.520 that you probably got married, and you know, otherwise you 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.639 probably My guess is, if you're a deacon, you probably 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:36.440 would have been a priest. 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:36.960 Am I wrong? 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:41.640 Probably? Maybe not, because I became a deacon later in life. 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.639 I already had children and grandchildren already, so it was 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.760 just a I continued in the church because I was 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.600 serving in the church, so it kind of led me 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:52.399 to that. But I don't see that. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.159 Would you agree that the parishes knew about the sex scandals, 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:59.160 and the bishops knew, and the cardinals. 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.240 Knew, and Rome knew, and that there. 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:06.200 Was collectively institutionally a major cover up and they still 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:10.000 to this day have not really dealt with the scandal 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.520 head on in the way that they should have. 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.320 I do agree with you, But I also agree that 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.000 the Republican Party hadn't handled everything in the way they should. 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:20.960 But yet I don't I agree, But they're not the pope. 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:25.399 But let me examine my criticism, and I think and 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:28.760 I understand the pope. Look, Donald Trump is not the 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:33.600 Pope Donald Trump. I mean, he's not the perfect human being, 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:35.480 and a lot of people pointed that out to me, 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:38.280 and I knew it would be pointed out to me. However, 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:42.560 if you're the head of the Roman Catholic Church, your 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:44.760 standard to me is very different than the standard of 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:47.520 being a president. But that's a separate issue. But he 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:52.919 made a very definitive statement. God does not bless any conflict. 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:55.760 And the God of the Old Testament, you would agree 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:57.280 with me, is the God of the New Testament. 0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.000 Correct, Correct? Okay? 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.840 In the Bible, and the has over four hundred references 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:07.600 to war, God authorizing, commanding, intervening in battles. I mean 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:09.440 that's that's a fact. 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:13.359 Correct, Yes, you're right. But my point is is that 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:16.280 folpe can speak. That doesn't make him right. 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:19.639 That doesn't mean he's not unless he speaks ex cathedra, 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:22.520 which would mean infallibility in those moments. 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.520 Correct. My theology is still in there. Yeah, you had 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:25.880 a boy. 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:26.520