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Speaker 1: Tell me what they have at Ohio State and everything

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows elite coaches can't win at A and M

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. Michigan beat

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Speaker 1: Here I have in my hand a copy of the

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Speaker 2: Allow me to share it.

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Speaker 1: Run Run Run, Run, Run, Run, Run, Run Run Run.

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Speaker 1: It's not exactly a Peter friendly metaphor, but that's what

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Speaker 1: I do remember standing on the field and it was right.

436
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Speaker 1: But I remember it right before New Year's right before

437
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Speaker 1: the stroke of midnight, and McCarthy and Blake Korum and

438
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 1: some other of their young kids are standing there and

439
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: they're they're just off. They're not seeking attention. They're like

440
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Speaker 1: off near the tunnel. I happened to be standing over there,

441
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Speaker 1: so I saw him, and they're watching the Georgia celebration

442
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Speaker 1: and I remember thinking to myself, those dudes are gonna

443
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Speaker 1: get a couple of more cracks at this because I'm

444
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Speaker 1: looking at true freshmen. And then they got another shot

445
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Speaker 1: last year. Didn't go their way last year, but it

446
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Speaker 1: kind of led.

447
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 2: Up to this moment. You couldn't have known that was coming.

448
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: When these kids are true freshmen getting beat by Joe

449
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Speaker 1: and they're standing there swallowing a bitter pill like that

450
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: and soaking it in. You could never know that they're

451
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Speaker 1: kind of being molded. For two years down the road,

452
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Speaker 1: their head coach is going to be suspended, and it

453
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Doesn't matter because what Jim Harbaugh has there

454
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Speaker 1: is now a player led team that you want to

455
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 1: know what the best test of culture is, take your

456
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Speaker 1: hands off the wheel. Harball was forced to take his

457
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Speaker 1: hands off the wheel.

458
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Speaker 2: The car didn't veer a bit.

459
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Speaker 1: I mean, there are coaches out there terrified to even

460
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Speaker 1: turn their back on their team, most of them because

461
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,719
Speaker 1: they're younger teams or they don't have a solid culture.

462
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: Harbaugh gets forcibly removed from his team. Hands are off

463
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: the wheel, that thing's on autopilot. But in the best

464
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Speaker 1: of ways, they were as razor focused as I've ever

465
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Speaker 1: seen a team. They went in there and handled business,

466
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Speaker 1: and then afterwards could have been a lot more demonstrative.

467
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Speaker 2: Than they were sing more.

468
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Speaker 1: Notwithstanding, obviously on the postgame cut an Attitude Erra promo

469
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Speaker 1: on Fox, I heard I was standing there. I didn't

470
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Speaker 1: know that some of that got out on live team.

471
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: But it's just all the good teams, the ones that

472
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Speaker 1: are there in the end, they normally have that in common.

473
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: They are player led.

474
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Speaker 2: You talk to.

475
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: Coaches on those teams and they'll tell you, you know,

476
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: all we kind of had to be was like the bumpers.

477
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: If you've ever been bumper bowling, I myself would never,

478
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 1: but if you've ever witnessed bumper bowling, the bumpers are

479
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 1: just there to kind of guide the ball a little bit.

480
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: It's not the ball itself. The ball itself is taken

481
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: care of business. The players are taking care of business.

482
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: Coaches are just there. Here's the practice schedule for this week.

483
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Speaker 1: Let's make sure attention to detail is on this drill

484
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: the way it needs to be. The players are running

485
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Speaker 1: the team. The players run the team at Michigan. The

486
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Speaker 1: players on Saban's best teams have run the team at Alabama,

487
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: Ditto at Georgia, diddo at Ohio State. Clemson's best teams

488
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: were like that. That's what Harball's got. It's why it

489
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: didn't matter that he wasn't on the sideline yesterday. I'd

490
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Speaker 1: be careful worshiping the box score on this game, too.

491
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: Be careful because you're gonna look at it. If you

492
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Speaker 1: didn't know any better, and you hadn't watched Michigan this year,

493
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: you'd look at it and you'd say, this looks like

494
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Speaker 1: a Service Academy box score. They threw the ball eight times,

495
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: McCarthy was seven for eight. If you don't know any better,

496
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: you may think to yourself, that's Michigan's brand, that's their

497
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: style of play. They're eighty percent to the run. Well,

498
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: of course they're not. They did that yesterday because they

499
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 1: knew Penn State couldn't answer. Because Penn State could score,

500
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: they couldn't move the ball. So there's no reason to

501
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: insert risk or variance by putting the ball in the

502
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: air when you don't have to. But if they do

503
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: have to down the road, I think they can. I

504
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: think McCarthy is capable of that. I think Roman Wilson

505
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: and those guys, they're fully capable of that, maybe not

506
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: going for three fifty or four hundred through the air,

507
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: but be very careful. There will be false conclusions drawn

508
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: off this, and mark my words. Down the road a

509
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, you'll be watching that game set up

510
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: in ann Arboro, Ohio. State's coming to town, and folks

511
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: will they'll start saying, hey, we just got to shut

512
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Speaker 1: him down on the ground. If we can force McCarthy

513
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: to throw the ball on us, I like our chances. Remember,

514
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: he didn't even throw the ball ten times, or maybe

515
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: they didn't trust him to throw the ball ten times.

516
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: They trust that dude on that entire offense, They trust

517
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Speaker 1: him implicitly. I got more to say on this game

518
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: in just a second. By the way, we had multiple

519
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: academy sports and outdoors open well, we have them opening

520
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: all month. We had a couple of them open this

521
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: past week. And I challenged you, if you make it

522
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: to a grand opening and you prove that you were there,

523
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm taking five of you at random. I am sending

524
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: chalive supremacy, which is which is this thing right here

525
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: that I sip this questionable liquid out of non alcoholic

526
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: of course, and I am giving you until tonight, So

527
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: tonight's the deadline. I've already given out a couple of them.

528
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: Got three more to give away. Academy Sports and Outdoors,

529
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: one stop shop for all things outdoor, sporting, good supplies, tailgating,

530
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: et cetera. Giving away two tickets to the SEC Championship Game.

531
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: Given away ten thousand dollars in Academy gift cards to

532
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Speaker 1: one person. By the way, all you got to do

533
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: is download the Academy app and log in. All you

534
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: gots to do unless you live in Hawaii or Alaska, Jesse,

535
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: what are the other ones? California and New York. Sorry,

536
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: I'll find you consolation prize. But the rest of the

537
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: continental US, you're in the game. We appreciate Academy. I

538
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: was talking to them today. They're headquartered down there in Texas,

539
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: so they have a vested interest on this Texas A

540
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: and m situation. So let me get back to this

541
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: for a second. Let me get back to this Michigan thing.

542
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: Because.

543
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to talk to you about

544
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh being suspended. It happened on Friday night. I

545
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: was in a hotel room in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and so

546
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: I figured, let's let the game play out and then

547
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: let's talk about it on Sunday. The twenty four hours

548
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: leading up to that game were surreal. Like, I don't

549
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: know that people fully appreciate because you heard rumblings that

550
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: it was coming all week. I don't think people fully

551
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: appreciate the impact of what you witnessed. You witnessed a

552
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: major head coach of an undefeated team tracking for conference title,

553
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: maybe playoff forcibly removed by his own conference. As an

554
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: invent instigation is ongoing. Imagine saying that to yourself in August.

555
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: Imagine our friend the alien comes down and the alien

556
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: looks around ass and that translates to where's Jim Harbaugh?

557
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: And you're impressed that the alien knows the head coach

558
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: of a Big ten program. And then you tell him, well,

559
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: he's not here, and then the alien why and you say, well,

560
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: he got suspended, and the alien wants to know in

561
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: response to the conclusion.

562
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: Of what investigation and you have to say, nobody.

563
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: Investigation is still ongoing, but punishment's already been handed down.

564
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: Like I said, pretty surreal.

565
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: Michigan as an organization kind of sort of put on

566
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: a clinic yesterday on how to handle crisis management. Doctor

567
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: McCullough down at Columbus State University taught my crisis management

568
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: class and I.

569
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 2: Got a solid B. Got a solid B in that class.

570
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: I like to think I handle mysel myself well in

571
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: crisis or crises. I've been in several, obviously, but I look,

572
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: I was there yesterday, man, I was there when they

573
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: got off the bus. I was there when those buses

574
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: pulled out around that organization the entire day. I say

575
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: organization intentionally because it ain't just eighty five scholarship players

576
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: and some walk ons that you take on the road.

577
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: Everybody was horse race blinder mentality on. Everyone was raise

578
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: or focus sharp or or razorshop, focused on the task

579
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: at hand. And like I said me and while used

580
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: to always tell me, you want to know what the

581
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: true test of culture is. You find out if you

582
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: take your hands off the wheel. So Harball takes his

583
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: hands off the wheel. And if anything, team just sped

584
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: up yesterday ran over Penn State in the process. So

585
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: I took it upon myself to talk to a number

586
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: of the Michigan fans who were there yesterday, and they

587
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: represented themselves well by the way numerically, and I had

588
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: robust conversation with several of you because some of you

589
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: didn't like the way I talked about Michigan last week.

590
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: And then I found out a lot of you had

591
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Speaker 1: conflated what a lot of the national media types had

592
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Speaker 1: said and just assumed I said the same thing, like

593
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: eighty percent of my interactions, by the way, So I

594
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: dismiss those because you were just wrong, like you didn't

595
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: hear what I actually said. Some of you did hear

596
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: what I said and you disagreed with it, which is fine.

597
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: So to be very clear where I stand on this,

598
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: I think that Michigan did something wrong. I think the

599
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: way the conference handled it is a joke. I think

600
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: it came off extremely poor. I think Michigan comes out

601
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: looking better as of this moment than their conference does

602
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: because I think they handled it better. So obvious they

603
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: got some folks with some experience in said fields advising

604
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: behind the scenes up there. I think Jim Harbaugh should

605
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: have known what was happening in his program, and to

606
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: tell me he didn't is really irrelevant because I'm telling

607
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: you I think he should know what's going on in

608
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: his program, and the other thing.

609
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: This is really to me the key distinction. I don't

610
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: think this is the end of the world. It's not

611
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: the biggest scandal blah blah blah. Some people have made

612
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: it out to be.

613
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Speaker 1: I don't care what kind of competitive advantage you tell

614
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Speaker 1: me you think you got.

615
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: That's irrelevant to me. And that is where a vast

616
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: majority of the argument has shifted to and like, I

617
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: don't care, man.

618
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: In other words, in signs stealing in baseball, I don't

619
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Speaker 1: care if you go zero for five with five strikeouts.

620
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: If I find out that you illegally acquired my signs,

621
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna punish you the same way as if you

622
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: hit five bombs off of me. So I don't I've

623
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: never cared about that from the outset here because I

624
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: got one person over here that says it's worth ten

625
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: points a game. I got another person over here's saying no, no, no, no, no,

626
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: it's it's irrelevant.

627
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: Man.

628
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Speaker 1: Maybe it makes a microcosm of a difference. I don't care,

629
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Speaker 1: because that's all subjective. You can't prove it one way

630
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: or another. You're not gonna come to me and say

631
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: we shouldn't be punished because you know what the teams

632
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: that we've already played. We didn't need any added advantage against.

633
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: We would have beaten them anyway. It's irrelevant. Oh, that's irrelevant.

634
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: So that's been my opinion on this, and that's about

635
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: the end of it. I haven't trapped in a lot

636
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: of what you've heard some of the other folks out

637
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: there say, and that's their prerogative. So you know, I

638
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: went back and forth with some Michigan folks yesterday. I

639
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: had like five different handshakes. Agree to disagree, Let's go

640
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: our separate ways. But the storm is winding now for Michigan.

641
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: I don't think people really get this.

642
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 2: Now. Everything that's going to be thrown in Michigan's been

643
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: thrown at them.

644
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm not so convinced that there are any kind of

645
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: new allegations or evidence of more impropriety that's going to

646
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: come out. I largely think we know what there is

647
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: to know about Michigan, and if there's anything else, I

648
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: think it'll be small layers, not anything above and beyond

649
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: what we already know. The head coach has been suspended,

650
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: and obviously, as of yesterday, it's not exactly on track

651
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: to derail this team in any way. So the storm

652
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: from Michigan to me is kind of winding down, but

653
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: the storm itself is not winding down, Because now I

654
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: think it'd be wise to start to shift your attention

655
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: a little bit to all right, well, what's their full

656
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: on response going to be, cause it could be multi

657
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: fast in and of itself. You know, you know, Michigan

658
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: made very little, very little doubt last week about the

659
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: fact that we got information too, just hadn't spilled a

660
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: lot of it yet.

661
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: Are they right?

662
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: Will they have they to the proper authorities? And number

663
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: two is not only what do they know? But how

664
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: angry are they? I guess it's the best way to

665
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: put it. I asked some folks with the Michigan program yesterday,

666
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: long term, years down the road, how different do things

667
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: look because of this?

668
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: And I think everything's on the table.

669
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't think any rash decision is going to be made,

670
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: but I don't think anything's been taken off the table.

671
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: I'm talking about affiliation with the Big ten. I'm talking

672
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: about where you know, what they call home, where they

673
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: call home long term. I think all that's in play. Selfishly,

674
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: if I were them, i'd probably feel the same way.

675
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: I'm not them. So I'm on the outside looking in, wondering, wow, like,

676
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: is that what it's going to come to? I don't know.

677
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: It doesn't surprise me.

678
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: That's the attitude, because I'm telling you now, as strong

679
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: as people feel on one side of this fence, they

680
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: feel every bit as strong on that side of the fence.

681
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: And my kind of unique situation I found myself in

682
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: is I get both sides. Like I'm readily sitting here

683
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: telling you I think some kind of action should have

684
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: been taken against them. I don't necessarily know that I

685
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: would align in course of action with what Tony Pettiti

686
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten has decided to do, but I

687
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: think some kind of action was warranted. However, I'd be

688
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: beside myself if I were associated with Michigan or a

689
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: Michigan fan at the way it's been handled, and I

690
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: would also go full bunker mentality us against the world

691
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. I mean, I'd harness it.

692
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: What else can you do with it? I'd harness it.

693
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: There was another side of this coin. Yesterday I got

694
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: plenty more to talk about. I just I need to

695
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: touch on this right quick. And then we got several

696
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: more games. I got best bets, I got all kind

697
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: of stuff. James Franklin lost yesterday. Penn State loss yesterday.

698
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: Interesting experience postgame talk to a bunch of Penn State

699
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: fans in the stands as it was emptying out, I mean,

700
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: stopping at gas stations up there. Folks are coming up

701
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: to me and saying, don't hold back tomorrow night. Say

702
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: what needs to be said, Just be honest. You don't

703
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: need to treat this with kid gloves. And you know,

704
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: the overwhelming sentiment was what more could we do? Man

705
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: Like we as a Penn State people, a PSP, what

706
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: more can we do? Kind of the same sentiment that

707
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: I get from A and M fans?

708
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: What more can we do? We give?

709
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: We give, we give emotionally, financially we give, and we're

710
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: not getting the result that we want. We're not bad,

711
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, Penn State's a lot better off as a

712
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: team right now than A and M was. We're not bad,

713
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: but we're not aiming to be a solid three in

714
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: the Big ten. That's not the goal here, and I'm

715
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: not suggesting it's the goal of James Franklin.

716
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I get you. Kind of sound like

717
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: a fence rider.

718
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: I guess you can label me if you want to

719
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: kind of get both sides of the too, Like I'm

720
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: one who sits here and defends James Franklin, and I'll

721
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: give you the reason for that in a second. But

722
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: if I'm a Penn State fan, there's no way that

723
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the stands yesterday watching at a horrific

724
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: offensive performances the one we saw yesterday and just stomaching

725
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: that I'd want change by the way we got changed today.

726
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: James Franklin earlier this afternoon fired Mike Hersitch. He relieved

727
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: him of his duties as offensive coordinator, so obviously he

728
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: didn't look at it much more favorably than we did.

729
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: But the current situation there, hate to put it this way,

730
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: is a championship caliber defense is going to be wasted.

731
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: Not wasted in a sense that there's nothing gained this year.

732
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: This could be a ten win team, but it is

733
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: a program that has produced a team this year that

734
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: had goals and aspirations much higher than that. So action's

735
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: been taken. This doesn't save anything this year, but it

736
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: was tough. It was tough to stand there and watch

737
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: for an offensive performance yesterday, just nothing. There was never

738
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: a threat. You never felt like they were a threat

739
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: to do anything. It was almost like a yawn for

740
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: Michigan's defensive backs. There wouldn't really much pay attention to

741
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: for them the entire afternoon. So the program is miles away.

742
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: But as you could imagine, I came on the show

743
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: last week, I again shared what I thought was common sense,

744
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: and what I shared was I never called Franklin an

745
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: elite head coach. I've never called Penn State an elite program.

746
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: Very intentional with my words, I say they're a very

747
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: good program. I say Franklin is a good to very

748
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: good head coach. What that means is there are not

749
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: a ton of coaches I would list above him. There

750
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: are a ton of coaches I would list beneath him.

751
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: So naturally someone comes at you every time he loses

752
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: a game, and then they say, well what now, what now?

753
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: So last week I tried to put a number next

754
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: to this, and I came up with the stat which

755
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: is now three to seventeen against top ten teams in

756
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: his time at Penn State. And I said, well, that

757
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: doesn't prove he's overrated because he's only been a favorite

758
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: in one of those games, and he won that game,

759
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: and he's won two other games, and people had a problem.

760
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: They said, well, point spreads aren't the best metric. Instead hype,

761
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: media hype, that's what makes him overrated. Dude, I don't

762
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: care about media hype.

763
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

764
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: The barometer I choose to judge how you're performing against

765
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: an expectation is the barometer of people who set lines

766
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: on these games for a living. I do not care

767
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: what your salary is. I know that's a little bit

768
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: of a controversial take. I don't care what your salary is,

769
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: and I don't care what media says about you. And

770
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: I say that as a dude who's part of media.

771
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't care to me your salary. And I'm not

772
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: saying this about Franklin. I'm saying this as a general thought.

773
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: Your salary sometimes is just proof that your boosters were

774
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: dumb enough to pay you that much money. Again, that's

775
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: not aimed towards Franklin. That is a generic comeback I

776
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: always have when people want to tell me, well, since

777
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: he makes this much, we should expect this from him.

778
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that way. I understand people who do.

779
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: I just have a different philosophy on that. I want

780
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: to know what the smartest expectation level in the room

781
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: is that's been set for you. How are you performing

782
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: relative to that? So anyway, Franklin lost a game yesterday

783
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: he was supposed to lose in terms of pointspread, and

784
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: I had folks coming at me, obviously saying, well, what

785
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: do you think about him?

786
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: Now?

787
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: I think the same thing I thought last week. I

788
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: think he's a really good coach in a conference where

789
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: you're going to have to be better than really good

790
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: to win it. I think there are two above him,

791
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: and I think there are what eleven beneath him. So

792
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: that is the definition of pretty good. And it's not elite,

793
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: and I've never said it is, and yet I have

794
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: this argument and every time I do, well, he's never

795
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: won a national title. Yeah, I didn't say he was

796
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: that would make him elite. Well, well, where are the

797
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: conference championships? Well, he's got one. I didn't say he

798
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: was elite, though people give me reasoning and it's fill

799
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: in the blank, like why is he not? And whatever's

800
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: in the blank is equivalent to elite? And I say, well,

801
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: the reason is because I never said he was elite.

802
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: So you're not disagreeing with me, even though you think

803
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: you are. That program's not far away. It's not miles away.

804
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: There are.

805
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: Like I said last year, and I'll say it again

806
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: this year, you gotta make minor changes to get major results.

807
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: You'd be just shocked at what the right hire at

808
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, for example, could do.

809
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: Here.

810
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Hey, what's the right higher a defensive coordinator done for him?

811
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: The problem is you don't just get to maintain all

812
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: that like you don't get to keep Manny Diaz forever.

813
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: You don't get to keep that caliber of defense forever

814
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: and just keep trying things offensively. That's why you gotta

815
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: thread the needle when you have these windows, because they're

816
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: not guaranteed.

817
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: Let's move on.

818
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: I need to do one thing right quick, and that

819
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: is type in my password on this laptop so that

820
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: I can make sure I monitor. I'm just really, I'm

821
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: really paranoid about news breaking during the show because I

822
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: never know if Bradley's taking a nap, so I never

823
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: know if I'm going to be informed of.

824
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: Anything or not.

825
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: Okay, so far, we're going large, large contingent, like ten

826
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: thousand people watching live. Do me a favor because some

827
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: of you are here, probably for the first time. Make

828
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: sure you subscribe to the channel. That's the way you

829
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: keep this show free. Like that's it, no hidden catch.

830
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 1: Subscribe to the channel, and then go steal your mom's

831
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: phone and subscribe her too, because what she doesn't know

832
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: in this case will not hurt her. Georgia beatle Miss

833
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: into a coma last night fifty two to seventeen.

834
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: They clenched the SEC East.

835
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: We've got Georgia versus Bama in the SEC Championship game again,

836
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: and I will have plenty of time to talk about that.

837
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: Brock Bowers, a living, breathing alien amongst us, returned yesterday

838
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: and he played, and you know, with a repaired ankle,

839
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: did all kinds of things that a human shouldn't be

840
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: able to do. He should probably still be in a wheelchair.

841
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: Most of you would. I'm speaking to you as a

842
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: guy who got sidelined for five days with food poisoning

843
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I don't think brock Bowers

844
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: would have missed two shows. That's just the way I'm

845
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: going to put it to you. So anyway, before I

846
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: mentioned anything on this game, I got to go to

847
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: the post game because I thought Drake Stoops of Oklahoma

848
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: had one of the great pieces of sound last week.

849
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: But outside of that, when it comes to coaches talking,

850
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart talked for brock Bauer's post game and I

851
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: suspected that there were going to be people in that

852
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: kid's ear telling him not to play.

853
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: It's not worth the risk.

854
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: Because there are casuals all over the play. Some of

855
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: them happened to be agents and they got in brock

856
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: Bauer's ear. And it's not shocking that brock Bawers chose

857
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: to play. But Kirby Smart shed a little light on

858
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: the decision making behind that process.

859
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: Afterwards, take a listen to this.

860
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: Well, people called him and told him that, and those

861
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: people will not be representing him. I can promise you

862
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: that because all I did was piss him off. And

863
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: he said, I had to have people call and tell

864
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: me that I shouldn't play, coach, And he said that

865
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: just drives me crazy, and he wants me to play,

866
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: wants me makes me want to play more to prove

867
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 3: them wrong. He said, why am I in this game

868
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: If I'm not gonna come back and play. I mean,

869
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: he's he's not risking millions guys, he has an opportunity.

870
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: To get more millions, like it's the other way. It's

871
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: not the way.

872
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 3: Because he's a great player. The NFL knows people heal

873
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: like they healed from that injury. They've had tons of

874
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: that same injury in the NFL. So all he did

875
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: was go out and stamp himself as a warrior that said,

876
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go hear practice on Tuesday in front of

877
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: fifteen scouts. Then I'm gonna practice on Wednesday in front

878
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: twelve scouts, and they're all gonna be over going, Oh

879
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: my god. And he's got an opportunity to move up because.

880
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: Of who he is.

881
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: Well, pat State material, Curby, you could just say payt

882
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: State material. Everyone would know what you mean. So the

883
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: game was tied at fourteen, just enough to draw in

884
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: an audience. Basically, this game's tied at fourteen. I got

885
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: back to my hotel in Harrisburg last night, games tied

886
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: at fourteen, and I am stupid enough to say, oh,

887
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: Lane's got something for him tonight. And so we went

888
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: back and checked. With fourteen minutes and twelve seconds to

889
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: go in the second quarter, it was fourteen to four.

890
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: With fourteen twelve left to go in the fourth quarter.

891
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: It was forty five to fourteen. So Georgia just not

892
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: so casually rips off thirty one unanswered padlockstat here. If

893
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: I tell you this on Friday, you need to know

894
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: nothing else about this game. Georgia averaged eight point six

895
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: yards per carry, and Kendall Milton, who has been injured

896
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: nine ways from Sunday, had his career game yesterday. Good

897
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: for him by the way, nine carries, one hundred and

898
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: twenty seven yards, two touchdowns. I said, I thought last

899
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: week the key was not letting Jackson Dark do a

900
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: lot of what Peyton Thorn for Auburn did, Like I

901
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: think that Georgia on the wrong Saturday is susceptible to

902
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: QB run messing a lot of what they do up well.

903
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart thought that too, and they're just they're not

904
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: gonna let it happen. And Jackson Dart yesterday eight carries

905
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: for twenty yards. This game came down to what games

906
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: have come down to since the beginning of time, since

907
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: God invented football, the game has come down to the

908
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: following who has players, And every now and then an

909
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: upset convinces you that players and talent is not the

910
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: end all be all, like the one or two times

911
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: out of ten, make you ignore the eight or nine

912
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: other instances out of ten. And it always helps if

913
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: we have Lane Kiffen in the room because Lane Kiffin

914
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: is probably the most brutally honest coach this side of

915
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,479
Speaker 1: Rush probest who has ever roamed a sideline. And Lane

916
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: Kiffin had this to say afterwards, We.

917
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: Got to recruit at a higher level, but I'm not

918
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: blaming people. Got to coach better.

919
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: But you know, at some point those whatever those stats are,

920
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: we've signed one to five star, they've signed twenty four or.

921
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: Something, and there's kind of new show up.

922
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: At some point, So.

923
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 3: We would we'd have to recruit at a better level,

924
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: do a better job.

925
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm recruiting, dude, they're so good man like George is

926
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: so good. I say talent is the end all be all.

927
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: Actually I did say that that's a trick. Talent's not

928
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: the end all be all. They acquire it and they

929
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: develop it, and yet again George's turned into an ignition team.

930
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: If you're new to the program, we got like our

931
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: own dictionary of terms, like Phil Steele, we have to

932
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: have a guide in front of the show.

933
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: But ignition teams are what we're looking for every November,

934
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: and it's usually a team that's got plus level coaching

935
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: and a plus level to elite level roster, And for

936
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: obvious reasons, when you combine those ingredients, they start to

937
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: pretty pretty significantly scale their level of play when it

938
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: comes time to in November. George's doing that, Bama's absolutely

939
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: doing that. Ohio State's doing that. Now.

940
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: I know these are the usual suspects, but you got

941
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: some other teams out there that are in these waters

942
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: for the first time.

943
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: You noticed yesterday, didn't you how.

944
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: There were some teams out there that won by one

945
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: possession against teams you know, kind of comparable to what

946
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: Ole Miss is to Georgia. Georgia didn't do that. Like

947
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: Georgia didn't mess around with the Old Miss. Bama didn't

948
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: mess around with Kentucky. They throttled them, they pulled away

949
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: from them. They in Bama's case, emptied the road stadium.

950
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: In Georgia's case, they made you turn the channel along

951
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: before the final. And that's what eventual championship caliber teams do.

952
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: They didn't look like that at halftime of the South

953
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: Carolina game, did they that's because there are twelve versions

954
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: of teams that we get every year, and for the

955
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: ones who are elite programs, the versions of teams they're

956
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: putting on the field come November are the best versions

957
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: of themselves. So Georgia ignition team at once again they

958
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: owned third down. That's the best third down team in

959
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: the game. When you count both sides of the ball,

960
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: they are now top ten offensively, they're top ten defensively,

961
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: may very well be the best team in the country.

962
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: Let's continue moving because I've got several more games to

963
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: talk about. Do you watch Florida State Miami last night?

964
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: Florida State won twenty seven to twenty. You know, we

965
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: have padlock stats, but I also have badlock stats. Badlock

966
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: stats are what you think would be padlock stats, but

967
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: they're just fooling you cause it's a fog out there

968
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: to sift through before you get to what really matters.

969
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: For example, a badlock stat is still worth the paper pop.

970
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: Miami outrushed Florida State one thirty one to fifty seven.

971
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: Now, if I told you that Friday, you'd go full

972
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: on double alarm emoji upset alert on me. Miami twenty

973
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: yards per completion absent any other context, that's a pretty

974
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 2: interesting stat.

975
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: They outgained Florida State. Those stats would punk you if

976
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: you saw on Friday. Those are badlock stats. Keon Coleman

977
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: was in this game. That's the problem for Miami. You know,

978
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: you want to know how powerful that transfer portal is,

979
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: and we look at transfer portal rankings for teams with

980
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: good reason. That's the best industry metric there is to

981
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: gauge how well you've done or how impactful a class

982
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: you've signed. But it really comes down to individual players.

983
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: And Keon Coleman yesterday, here's what's funny. He had four

984
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: catches for twenty four yards and yet made a huge

985
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: impact on this game via special teams that punk return

986
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: at the end. He's playing hurt, he's obviously playing hurt,

987
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: and he's even hurt, still better than a vast majority of.

988
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: Guys out there. I thought.

989
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: I thought Brendan Sonan over at Noel's twenty four to

990
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: seven had a good article. It's probably still up right now.

991
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: It was about the culture that Mike Norvel's built down there.

992
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: It didn't happen overnight, like they planted the seeds a

993
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: few years ago. And you know some folks looked around

994
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: and said, we planted these seeds last night, where's the

995
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: crop drop my pen Jesse, where's the crop? Well that's

996
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: that's not the way the harvest actually works. But now

997
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: you're finding out those seeds that were planning a couple

998
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: of years ago, all of a sudden, like you got

999
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: guys on special teams. Some of them are walk ons.

1000
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: Like it's not just Keon Coleman, is his point. It's

1001
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: just that Keon Coleman will grab the headlines. But you've

1002
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: got a team. It's not just individuals. They're not winning

1003
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: via mercenary acquisition. They are adding cherries on top in

1004
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: the form of Keon Coleman. But there's a foundation there.

1005
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't think the rest of the country probably appreciates.

1006
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: I don't think Florida State's played in enough marquee games, really,

1007
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: including this game last night.

1008
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 2: Imagine saying that.

1009
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: About that rivalry a couple of decades ago, but even

1010
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: this game last night, I don't think people have really

1011
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: zeroed in like they will if Florida State's a playoff

1012
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: team and you get a month's worth of specials and

1013
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: build up and then all of a sudden, you'll start

1014
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: seeing some of that stuff highlighted, and you'll start having

1015
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: more of the rest of the country, otherwise agnostic towards

1016
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: Florida State, start to say, Wow, that's an actual program.

1017
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: That guy who's that guy, Mike what Mike NorVa? That

1018
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: guy's built a program down there. Good for him.

1019
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: And then they'll start talking like they discovered this, and

1020
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: the rest of us will be saying, welcome to the party, friend,

1021
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: better late than ever. I guess it's interesting gauging the

1022
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: reaction to this game, though, This is something you gotta

1023
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: guard against. I am warning you kids, if you're new

1024
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: to college football, I'm warning you don't be saying stuff like, well, yeah,

1025
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: Florida State beat Miami, but they barely got past them.

1026
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not even saying this just because it's a

1027
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: rivalry game. I am telling you that there is not

1028
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: a wide gap in these rosters. You fool yourself. Sometimes

1029
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: rankings do not magically coalesce into on field result. You

1030
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: can't just put a number by one team and not

1031
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: have a number next to another team and magically just

1032
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: have it play out that way like it's a video game.

1033
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: On the field, the team.

1034
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: Talent composition for these two rosters actually favors Miami talent

1035
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: just being one of the ingredients it takes to win Miami.

1036
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: According to the twenty four to seven team talent composite

1037
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: is number twelve Florida State's twenty and so over the

1038
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: course of a season, Florida State's a much better team

1039
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: than Miami this year, but they don't play a season

1040
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: on Saturdays. They play one game, four quarters, and so

1041
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: if some things don't go your way, you're in a dogfight.

1042
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: The other team, who also has pretty talented players, is

1043
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: allowed to try as well and salvage their season and

1044
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: circle you as their super Bowl. It would have surprised

1045
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: me if this wasn't a close game. We talked about

1046
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: this Thursday. We had this on high Upsettler potential, and so,

1047
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: I mean I looked at it and I said, good

1048
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: for Florida State. And the other thing to remember, guys,

1049
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: is this is not Georgia. This is not Alabama. This

1050
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: team hasn't been there year after year. They're experiencing it

1051
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: for the first time. I've never climbed a mountain other

1052
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: than Pine Mountain in Harris County, Georgia.

1053
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: Beautiful this time of year.

1054
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: But I would imagine a mountain climber would tell you, brother,

1055
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: the first time you get up there and you're experiencing

1056
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: it all for the first time, and you're experiencing every

1057
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: one of the elements that's working against you because nature

1058
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: does not want a human existing at that altitude.

1059
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: Boy, it can be really, really, really surria. It can

1060
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 2: affect you all different kinds of ways.

1061
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: Now, if you go up there a third, fourth, fifth, sixth,

1062
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: and seventh time, all of a sudden, you're a veteran

1063
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: and you understand what to expect. Well, Florida State's breathing

1064
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: this air for the first time. Florida State is walking

1065
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: the tightrope for the first time. And we talk every

1066
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: year about how long November is. In reality, it's the

1067
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: same four weeks as all the other months in the season.

1068
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: But it's really not. Ask Washington, ask Florida State. Ask

1069
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: some of these teams that.

1070
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: Are contending for a legitimate shot in the playoff for

1071
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: the first time, how long this has felt. I mean,

1072
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: September must feel like an eternity ago from Mike Norvel

1073
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: right now. As for Miami, they last night lose by seven.

1074
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be the end of the world. But you

1075
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: pair that with the loss to Georgia Tech in North

1076
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: Carolina and NC State. Emery Williams out trying to stretch

1077
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: for a first down last night, Big Emery Williams fans

1078
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Speaker 1: on this show. By the way, Tyler van Dyke came

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Speaker 1: back in. And so the rest of their season, I

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Speaker 1: mean they could be anywhere from six and six to

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Speaker 1: eight and four. They got Louisville and b C left.

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Speaker 1: I thought, Gabby over it are Miami twenty four to seven.

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00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: Site does a great job covering that program. And Gabby

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00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: put out a stat there at six Miami freshman total

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00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: three hundred snaps.

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Speaker 2: And that's what they had to do. Told you that

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Speaker 2: in Springs, what they got to do.

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Speaker 1: I will continue to preach patients with this team program,

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Speaker 1: not just team program, because I'll I'll take seven and

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Speaker 1: five like I'll take it. If I parlay that with

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Speaker 1: the idea that next year, that's when I expect a

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Speaker 1: quantum leap. Now, if I'm sitting here this time next

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Speaker 1: year and I'm talking six and six, seven and five,

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing a much different tune about Mario Christapaul, the staff, Miami,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. But twenty twenty four is the year that

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Speaker 1: we circle in the spring and give me noticeable improvement.

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Speaker 2: This year, Florida State's already there.

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Speaker 1: Though.

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Speaker 2: Good for Mike Norvell. We move on. The one thing

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Speaker 2: about going to big noon.

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Speaker 1: Kickoff is you you miss all the other noon kickoffs,

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Speaker 1: and so I had to wait and watch the following

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Speaker 1: game today Alabama forty nine, Kentucky twenty one. I don't

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00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: want you to do me a favor, a little science

1105
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: experiment here. We were too cheap to do it ourselves.

1106
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: But you guys can do this. Go buy two sodas

1107
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: I would prefer doctor Pepper. You go buy whatever you

1108
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: want to, But I want you to set them on

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00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: a table, and I want you to just open one,

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00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: and then I want you to shake the other one

1111
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: as violently as you can for fifteen seconds. And then

1112
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: I want you to open that one because you have

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00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: the same product in each hand. But you're gonna get

1114
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: a much different reaction from bottle b as opposed to

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00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: bottle A. And what I have just done is I

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00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: have described the difference in September Bama versus November Bama.

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00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: Because if you didn't know any better, you would think

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00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: Nick Saban traded the entire team and has imported a

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00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: new staff, new team, And in reality, none of that's happened,

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Speaker 1: not even a quarterback change outside of one random Week

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00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: three occurrence at South Florida, none of that's happened. What's

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00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: happened is coaches have rolled up their sleeves, players have

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Speaker 1: rolled up their sleeves, They've gone to work, they figured

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Speaker 1: things out. Cream has started to rise, and even in

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Speaker 1: what should have been a classic letdown spot yesterday, they

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Speaker 1: just rolled. Because that's what really really good teams do.

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Speaker 1: That's what ignition teams do. That's what teams that are

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Speaker 1: hitting their stride do. I want you to think about

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Speaker 1: that for a second. Now, Bama goes and they beat LSU,

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Speaker 1: and they got this sleepy eleven am Central time kickoff

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Speaker 1: of Kentucky. And by the way, everyone after the LSU

1132
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: game is talking about the SEC title. Everyone's looking down

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00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: the road and nobody in the building did. And they

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Speaker 1: got up twenty one to nothing on Kentucky and the

1135
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: game was really never in doubt. Milrow three passing touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: three rushing touchdowns. I want you to do another favor

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Speaker 1: for me. You start talking about I'm not gonna. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna do the Heisman thing because I I don't

1139
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: really talk Heisman.

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Speaker 2: A lot on the show. But just think about the

1141
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: best players in the country right now.

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Speaker 1: I think the well is still tainted on Milrow because

1143
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: you cannot get out of your mind some of the

1144
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: first things you saw from him, and some of the

1145
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: first things you saw from him this year were just atrocious,

1146
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: terrible quarterback play. But if you chop off the early

1147
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: part of the season, if you just go amnesia and

1148
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: all you can remember is the last few weeks you've

1149
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: seen him play, that's one of the best quarterbacks in

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00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: the country because they fully utilized this skill set. When

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00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: I was in Tuscal Loose a couple of weeks ago,

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00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: the Friday before the LSU game, I told you guys,

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00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: I worked out at Bama's facility. I'm walking out on Friday.

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00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: Tommy Reese was walking in. The offensive coordinator talked to

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00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 1: him for a second, said how do you feel? I said, good,

1156
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: think we got some things figured out in the bye week.

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00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know what that meant at the time. I

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00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: didn't press him on it. It looks like they figured

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00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: some things out offensively in the bye week. Defensively, they're

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00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 1: what they've been all year. They can get after the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: they are relentless on the back end. They'll give up

1162
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: a play every now and then, but you're gonna have

1163
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: to take it. They're not laying down. You don't just

1164
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: have bodies all over the field like you did last year.

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Speaker 1: So it's a credit to coaching.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's not Nick Nick Saban hired all of the staff,

1168
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: but it's a staff, top to bottom job that's being

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00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: done there right now. And it's resume versus real time.

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Speaker 1: And this is gonna be a growing debate. It's already

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00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: kind of there, but you're gonna continue as we shaved

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Speaker 1: down the weeks until conference title Saturday and and then

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00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: selection Sunday. You're going to have those debates of what

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Speaker 1: if what if Ohio State or Michigan is undefeated, what

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00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: if Georgia's Well, if George is undefeated means Bama's out.

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Speaker 1: But what if Florida State's undefeated? What if you've got

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Speaker 1: Texas who has a head to head win. You've seen

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Speaker 1: all the scenarios. It's going to be resume versus real time.

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Speaker 1: Those Bama's resume includes, obviously a loss to Texas earlier

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Speaker 1: in the year, and some performances that left a lot

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Speaker 1: to be desired. And that's resume because you have to

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Speaker 1: bake in the entire body of work. And I'm a

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00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: proponent of that, by the way. But if you go

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Speaker 1: the opposite way and you go real time, like, what

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Speaker 1: does this one lost team, Let's say Bama wins the

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00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: SEC title. At that point, you've baked in a win

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Speaker 1: against Georgia. By the way, what does this team right

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Speaker 1: now look like?

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Speaker 2: There aren't four better There aren't three better than that

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00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: version of Bama at that point, And that would be

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00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: a very, very spirited debate.

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Speaker 1: There's a part of me that hopes we experience it.

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00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: There's another part that hopes we don't experience it. And

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00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: it's just it's a classic duality of host I guess,

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00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: as me mal would say, that Bama Georgia game is

1196
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: not hypothetical anymore.

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00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: We have locked that one in for the SEC title.

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Speaker 1: As of last week, FanDuel had a line on the

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Speaker 1: game of minus four and a half in favor of Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I'll have plenty of time to break that game down.

1201
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: Not worried about that, but just wanted to throw that

1202
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: out there. I've got some added takeaways on more games here.

1203
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Speaker 1: You know, no, time is not an issue.

1204
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: I don't care.

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: Time's not an issue. This is Internet, baby, this is streaming.

1206
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: So we go three hours if we want to. We

1207
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: could have a telethon in real time if we wanted to,

1208
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: but we don't have a bank of phones, and I

1209
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: don't think that CBS would appreciate me using the Josh

1210
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: Foundation as the charity of choice.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna forego that idea.

1212
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Speaker 1: But I'm about to talk to you about several more

1213
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: games after I take a sit from the chilie. Of course,

1214
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Speaker 1: good crowd, good robust crowd tonight watching live like a

1215
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: ninth of you have liked the video, so do me

1216
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,479
Speaker 1: a favor and clicked that little thumbs up button show

1217
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: that you care.

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Speaker 2: Please. What in the world happened to Tennessee yesterday? They

1219
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: got body bagged.

1220
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,479
Speaker 1: Missouri ran all over Tennessee literally thirty six to seven

1221
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: the final. This was the most stunning result of Saturday

1222
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: to me, even more stunning than Oklahoma State. I'm going

1223
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: to talk about that in a second. They held Tennessee

1224
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: to three point six yards per carry Missouri just undressed them.

1225
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: They got pantsed.

1226
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Speaker 1: And the thing about it is what I thought would

1227
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: be a benefit for Tennessee ended up not mattering. If

1228
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Speaker 1: they won yesterday and Georgia lost the following week, the

1229
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: SEC East would be on the line.

1230
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Speaker 2: Now, as it turns out, Georgia one, so it was

1231
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: going to be irrelevant.

1232
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Speaker 1: Tennessee didn't know that they played several hours before Georgia,

1233
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: so they had everything to play for.

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Speaker 2: Don't let history be rewritten on this.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee had everything to play for in this game, and

1236
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: late as big an egg as I've seen them lay

1237
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: under Josh Hipel. Now, look as much as I say that,

1238
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: I hear my Missouri viewers saying, what are you talking about?

1239
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: Like we didn't have anything to do with that. Oh,

1240
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: they had a ton to do with it.

1241
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: Cody Schrader two hundred and five yards rushing, one hundred

1242
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: and sixteen yards receiving. That is the first SEC player

1243
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: go two hundred and one hundred in a game. I

1244
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: mean that's significant. And Eli Drinkwitz, you know, we've got

1245
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: a nice little piece of video that we recorded in

1246
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: August that we're waiting to release at the opportune moment.

1247
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Speaker 1: Eli Drinkwitz has done a phenomenal job, and that says

1248
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: staff that's very underrated. It's not just the head coach.

1249
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Speaker 1: You look at the caliber of staff that he's put

1250
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: together in Colombia. Quietly, because most of what happens in

1251
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: Colombia happens quietly, doesn't resonate and reverberate around the sec

1252
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: like something happening in Gainesville. That's a great staff, very

1253
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: underrated staff, and they're getting the job done.

1254
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: They got Florida and Arkansas left. UCF took Oklahoma State

1256
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Speaker 1: apart yesterday. Reminded me of the Kansas State game last year.

1257
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Speaker 1: We had major concern on this game. I told you

1258
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: Thursday that Oklahoma State had had five consecutive weeks of

1259
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: plus level play and that is a massive red flag

1260
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: in the betting world because you are like quadruple do

1261
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: down at that point. You just you don't continue to

1262
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: get college kids to play at that kind of level

1263
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: week after week. And Mike Gundy had and then they

1264
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: beat Oklahoma. So you have the rivalry let down on

1265
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: top of being due down, and you want to know

1266
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: what that looks like when it all comes crashing down.

1267
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: It looks like that. Forty five to three, ucf ran

1268
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: for more yards than Oklahoma State had total yards in

1269
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Speaker 1: this game. Two ninety three they ran for. Oklahoma State

1270
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: was three of fifteen on third and fourth downs. That's

1271
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: probably your padlock stat from this game. They were minus

1272
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: three turnovers. Every bit of goodwill and equity they had

1273
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: built up just evaporated down there in Orlando. Gus Malson

1274
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: specials light clockwork every November. Does not matter what his

1275
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: record is. It is going to happen. It's just hoops.

1276
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: Will it happen to? And the unfortunate victim this year

1277
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: was Oklahoma State. The Big twelve standings are like spilling

1278
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: spaghetti all over the place.

1279
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Speaker 2: It's just a mess.

1280
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: Texas controls their own destiny if they went out there

1281
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: in outside of that, as best we could tell, almost

1282
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: everyone's in this thing. And let me remind you people,

1283
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: Iowa State is still alive. Iowa State placed Texas this week.

1284
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: Iowa State gets them at home. Texas is going to Ames.

1285
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: Texas is favored by check it for me, Jesse, I

1286
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: want to say seven points or thereabouts. Matt Campbell, we

1287
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: got our shot, man, We got our shot. This is

1288
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: just a conversation between me and him right now. We

1289
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: got our shot. They gave up on us, they sold

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Speaker 1: us down the river. But I didn't burn my T shirts.

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Speaker 1: I haven't worn them on air. I haven't burned my

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Speaker 1: T shirts. So let's just keep and keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on it. I'm not saying and that was totally off

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Speaker 1: the radar for the once upon a Saturday tour trip.

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Speaker 1: I just know that I would have taken unbelievable amounts

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Speaker 1: of ridicule if we went to the game. Next up,

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Speaker 1: LSU fifty two, Florida thirty five. Just a little Jade

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Speaker 1: and Daniels appreciation segment here for a moment. Jaden Daniels

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Speaker 1: is a living, breathing American hero.

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Speaker 2: Look at him. The only thing stopping him is the

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Speaker 2: back of the end zone.

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Speaker 1: At this point, he had three seventy two through the

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Speaker 1: air and three touchdowns yesterday. But he thought to himself self,

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks have thrown for three seventy two or more before,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go ahead and run for two thirty

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Speaker 1: four and add another couple of tuddies, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do what no quarterback has ever done.

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Speaker 2: LS.

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Speaker 1: You had seven hundred and one yards yesterday he accounted

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Speaker 1: for over six hundred of them and five touchdowns. Translation,

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Speaker 1: that's a Heisman front runner front runner, not contender. That's

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Speaker 1: my Heisman front runner. I don't care how many games

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Speaker 1: this team has lost. It's not his problem.

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Speaker 2: The defense sucks act. Jayden and Daniels.

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Speaker 1: Probably do a half decent job at dB for them

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Speaker 1: right now, but it wouldn't be in Brian Kelly's best

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Speaker 1: interest to try it out. So there's my ballot. They

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Speaker 1: don't give me a Heisman vote. I commit the crime

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Speaker 1: of actually caring too much about this sport and watching

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Speaker 1: every game. They don't want people like that voting on

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Speaker 1: the Heisman. Uh, please don't mistake me. I'm not bitter

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Speaker 1: about that. I'm just saying i've seen some of you

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Speaker 1: folks who do have a vote.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I am. You know what, maybe I'm a little

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Speaker 2: bitter about it.

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Speaker 1: I never realized that until now. I'm just asking how

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Speaker 1: come other people get things I don't get. That's all

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Speaker 1: I'm asking. I've asked the same things as I was

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Speaker 1: a kid. I want all the credit, none of the blame,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to be able to have whatever

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Speaker 1: I want to have. Other than that, I'm very humble.

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Speaker 1: I'm not spoiled whatsoever. Let's go to this Washington game

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Speaker 1: for a second. Washington thirty five, Utah twenty eight. Cubulic

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Speaker 1: just texts me he has endorsed my Jad and Daniels

1335
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Speaker 1: for cornerback movement, but why not just put him at dB.

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01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: Look if travel Us Hunter can do it at wide receiver,

1337
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: why not play your quarterback both ways? They used to

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Speaker 1: do it in the fifties. Why not Washington got by

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01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: Utah thirty five to twenty eight again. I think we

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01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: have people out there suffering from a chronic ailment. In

1341
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: November in college football, memal called it the over inflation

1342
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: of expectation syndrome. And that's when you get this little

1343
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: number next to your name and you're undefeated. People continue

1344
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: to just elevate and elevate and elevate their expectation and

1345
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: in reality you are who you are, and all of

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01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: a sudden, they think you should win by eight this week,

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Speaker 1: and twelve the next week and twenty the following week.

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Speaker 1: Rankings do not coalesce into on field results. They're just

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Speaker 1: numbers that humans put next the team's names. The teams

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Speaker 1: have to go play Utah's really good, Washington's really good.

1351
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: And last night Washington gets buy them in a dog fight.

1352
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: And I got people out here asking what's wrong with Washington?

1353
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: Nothing's wrong. What's wrong with you? If you think that

1354
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: this is something to look down on? What's wrong with you?

1355
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Speaker 2: Did you watch the game?

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01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: By the way, I highly doubt a lot of you

1357
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: who are saying such things did, And if you did

1358
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: and you still don't get it, I guess you just

1359
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: don't get it. We're trying our best to show you

1360
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: the proper way in this sport. This was always destined

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01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: to be a four quarter game. We talked about this

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01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: on the Thursday show. Just like FSU Miami, it would

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01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: have shocked me if this was a blowout. I expected

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01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: the close game. That should have been the expectation. It

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01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: was twenty eight to twenty four and to a half.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what the second half score in this

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Speaker 1: game was? Washington won the second half eleven zip. That's

1368
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: coming to play. That's the old fabled halftime adjustment, as

1369
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Speaker 1: certain members of my family love to talk about so much.

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Speaker 1: They are at Oregon State this week are the Washington Huskies,

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Speaker 1: and we will be there.

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Speaker 2: Hoomst to amongst us.

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01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: Thought I would see Washington at least two times this

1374
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: year in person. Me maybe PAC twelve. Pate is not

1375
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: going to watch this conference, fade off into the ABYSS

1376
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: and not attend every possible game that I can attend.

1377
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: I'll be there if no one else will be there, shameful.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't be us. Imagine not being at Washington Oregon State Saturday.

1379
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: Couldn't be us. Next up.

1380
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: Don't have much to say about Auburn blank in Arkansas

1381
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: forty eight to ten. It was painful to watch. Auburn

1382
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: ran for three fifty four two touchdowns. Arkansas had two

1383
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: to twenty five total.

1384
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 2: Just a lifeless effort, lifeless team right now, and a

1385
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 2: lot is being asked about Sam Pittman and what his future.

1386
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: There is one of twelve on third downs. They don't

1387
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: have an answer. I mean, there's no answer for this

1388
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: year's team. I think that's been pretty obvious. They've got

1389
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: two more games FIU and Missouri, and they are three

1390
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: and seven right now.

1391
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 2: They're not going bowling, so you've you've got significant change

1392
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 2: that has to happen at this point.

1393
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: The question is does it bleed up to head coach?

1394
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: Are they going to make wholesale changes there. Neither would

1395
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: surprise me right now, and I don't know that decisions

1396
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: have been made. I'm sure there are serious conversations happening

1397
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: up there. If there were an exit, I don't think

1398
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: it would look like Jimbo's exit today.

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Speaker 2: Let me just put it that way.

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01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: So at hogsports dot Com, Trey Biddy, those folks are

1401
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: right on top of this, not some rando on Twitter.

1402
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: If it's going to be broken and it's legitimate, Trey

1403
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: Biddy and the folks will break it.

1404
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, I know it's tough to watch.

1405
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: I hear you, guys. I want positive change for you

1406
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 2: as well.

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01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: My thinking with Arkansas similar to my thinking with a

1408
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: lot of programs in college football. There are guys who

1409
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: get fired all the time that I believe if they

1410
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 1: were just given unlimited time, they'd eventually put the right

1411
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: pieces together.

1412
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: But you don't get to do that. I know you don't.

1413
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm a realist. I understand when you invest like you

1414
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 2: do in these programs and these teams, you don't get

1415
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 2: the head coach in there and allow him to say,

1416
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: all right, well, let me try it a few different ways.

1417
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 2: Can't do that. You got twelve games a year. You

1418
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 2: don't have time to mix and match and experiment.

1419
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: You go do that in the MAC. You go do

1420
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: that in Conference USA. You go do that in the

1421
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: Sun Belt. All due respect, you don't do that in

1422
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: the SEC, nor should you, Nor should you. Texas twenty nine,

1423
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: TCU twenty six. I sit here behind this microphone and

1424
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: I tout Texas's ability to close out games, and I

1425
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: quote Sark about how intentional they've been about fourth quarters.

1426
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: And then they got a twenty six to six lead

1427
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: in this game, they win by three. They were up

1428
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: on Kansas State twenty seven to seven, they won by three.

1429
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: They were up on Houston twenty one to nothing, They

1430
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: won by seven. How much gas we got in tank?

1431
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 2: Here?

1432
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: All gas, no breaks, how much gas we got in

1433
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: the tank. They're winning, That's what's most important. They're winning games,

1434
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: and they have bought themselves wiggle room. They only got

1435
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: one loss, and that's to Oklahoma. They got themselves wiggle room, well,

1436
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: a little bit. You can't wiggle in terms of adding

1437
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 1: another loss on the resume. But it's a tough pill

1438
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: to swallow because as you win, you lose. Brooks the

1439
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: running back who has been a stalwart, one of the

1440
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: bell cows of this team. Jonathan Brook's over eleven hundred

1441
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: yards for this year out for the season yesterday tore

1442
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: his acl still got Baxter. But it's a complimentary game

1443
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: in the backfield these days, very rarely do you watch

1444
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: someone going feature back.

1445
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 2: Now.

1446
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: It's different in a sark offense. I get that quinn

1447
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: Ewers came back yesterday, so hopefully fingers crossed they'll be okay.

1448
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 2: Their schedule is tough. It's very tough. They go to

1449
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 2: Iowa State this week.

1450
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: That is the second leg of back to back road stretch,

1451
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: and then they come home and play Texas Tech on

1452
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: short rest the day after Thanksgiving.

1453
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: Not easy.

1454
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you look in a vacuum

1455
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: out there and you say, Iowa State's not good, Texas

1456
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: Tech's not good. Careful this time they yek careful. It's

1457
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 1: very thin air. Texas is another team. They're breathing this

1458
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 1: air the first time. They're already showing you signs of

1459
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: being shaky down the stretch. I'm just saying, if we

1460
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: watch them go up to Ames, Iowa Saturday night and

1461
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: it's closed, don't sitting there and.

1462
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 2: Be shocked that House Texas struggling with these guys. You

1463
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: put some respect on Iowa State's name unless they get

1464
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 2: beat by thirty, in which case we won't cover the

1465
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 2: game very much next week.

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Speaker 1: But if you do have some confidence in Iowa State,

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Speaker 1: who knows, maybe I will this week. Maybe the Rominul

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Speaker 2: I mean, I got an idea. I'm meeting with them tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I got an idea.

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