WEBVTT - John's Mom: The Story of Juanita Smith

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome The Money in Wealth with John O'Bryant, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Hey, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is John O'Brien and this is the Money in

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<v Speaker 1>Wealth podcast, coming to you every Thursday, dropping new episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell all your friends about it. Financial literacy is a mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just about money, and my mother had the

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<v Speaker 1>right mindset. This is an episode dedicated to my mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Wanted to smith a bad sister. Grew up in the

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<v Speaker 1>Deep South and very much like this bandage out of

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<v Speaker 1>my hands, supporting my wrists, which I'm like an athlete

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<v Speaker 1>of the brain, always work in those writing new books.

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<v Speaker 1>So wore my muscles out here so recuperating. My mother

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<v Speaker 1>just wore out her hustle. She wore out her dream,

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<v Speaker 1>She wore out her life for her children. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know Rainbold's only follow storms. You know that you cannot

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<v Speaker 1>have rainbow without a storm first. And so she went

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<v Speaker 1>through stuff in order to become someone just like you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do. And this is dedicated to single mothers

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere who want to know you can make it. You

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<v Speaker 1>can come up from nothing. My mother, it's a definition

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<v Speaker 1>of legitimate hustle. Became a millionaire working just like you,

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<v Speaker 1>many of you, an hourly job. Born in a small

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<v Speaker 1>town in Alabama, moved to East Saint Louis with her

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<v Speaker 1>sisters and her brother, and her dad died before she

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<v Speaker 1>was five. Before there were social security, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>social safety net as we call it today. So her

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<v Speaker 1>mother had to make a choice, right, And the choice

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<v Speaker 1>was do I send my kids everywhere like, break them up,

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<v Speaker 1>break the family up. And because there was no welfare,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no public assistance to take care of the family,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no father at home anymore, right, or do

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<v Speaker 1>we all find a way because we're better together to

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<v Speaker 1>make this, to make this work. And so grandmother of

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<v Speaker 1>Vester Murray decided that they were going to make it work.

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<v Speaker 1>And nobody cares work harder. Everybody had to work. So

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<v Speaker 1>they went to go work as domestics because they did

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<v Speaker 1>not have back then, you know, options that we had today,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did not have higher education. So they want

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<v Speaker 1>to go work for white families in private homes. And

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<v Speaker 1>my mother she made five dollars a day for the

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<v Speaker 1>whole day, not an hour for the whole day. And

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<v Speaker 1>when she come home from working, my grandmother, her mother

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<v Speaker 1>would say, would you make the day baby, and my

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<v Speaker 1>mother would say, I made five dollars, mom, and so

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<v Speaker 1>Vestor my grandmother would say, would give me that five dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to the casino. Well, she didn't tell my

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<v Speaker 1>mother that. She just went to the casino and she

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<v Speaker 1>lost the money, their money. Now I'm about to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a big definition here in financial literacy. One of

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<v Speaker 1>these lessons is not what you make, is what you

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<v Speaker 1>keep right. And if your outflow sees your inflow, then

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<v Speaker 1>your overhead or be your downfall. And sometimes we save

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<v Speaker 1>our worst behavior family for those we care the most about.

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<v Speaker 1>Real talk. So just because somebody says they love you

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean they know how to love. And there's an

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<v Speaker 1>old Southern saying again, no matter how much I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't have wisdom, I can only give you

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<v Speaker 1>my own ignorance. I'll repeat that, no matter how much

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, my son or my daughter, if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have wisdom, I can only give you my own ignorance.

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<v Speaker 1>I can only give you what I've got In the

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<v Speaker 1>blind town of one eyed Man's King, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know better, you can't do better. So my grandmother knew

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<v Speaker 1>enough when my grandfather passed to not break the family

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<v Speaker 1>up and send the kids hither and there and there

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<v Speaker 1>around the country, and that's cool. But she did not

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<v Speaker 1>know enough to encourage my mother and her sisters and

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<v Speaker 1>brothers to go get higher education, which was really the

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<v Speaker 1>way out back then. Today we're trying to educate you

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<v Speaker 1>to you can go write a check, start a business.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an option. Back then, it was just they thought

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<v Speaker 1>cash a check and get a job. But they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think the exception of my uncle, by the way, Buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle Buddy, who did create his own business sanitation business,

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<v Speaker 1>amongst others. But Germany speaking, the mindset was low frequency,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just go work for somebody, and that I'll

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<v Speaker 1>never make it out of this. So the only way

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<v Speaker 1>to make it out was to get lucky, to gamble.

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<v Speaker 1>So my grandmother took my mother's hard earn money and

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<v Speaker 1>went to the casino and lost it all every day.

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<v Speaker 1>So once my mother got win, that was what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on. She didn't want to talk back to grandma,

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<v Speaker 1>be disrespectful, but Grandma had short term memory, so luckily

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<v Speaker 1>for my mother, Grandma's like, well what you make today?

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<v Speaker 1>This is you know. A few weeks after and my

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<v Speaker 1>mother's got the memo now of like, what's really going on?

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<v Speaker 1>So my mother's like, well, I made two fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and fifty cents, give me that baby. So my

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<v Speaker 1>mother gave her the two fifty and she saved two

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and fifty cents. She had made five dollars, just

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<v Speaker 1>like she did before. But she now knew that that

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<v Speaker 1>she had to help grandmother help herself because she she

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<v Speaker 1>was financially illiterated and she didn't know any better, couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do any better. So my mother learned the value of

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<v Speaker 1>savings at an early age. And I guess a survival mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's three mindset surviving mindset, a thriving mindset, and

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<v Speaker 1>a winning mindset, And these three mindsets in my book

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<v Speaker 1>Up from Nothing, by the way, So initially my mother

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<v Speaker 1>had a surviving mindset, and she ultimately got to a

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<v Speaker 1>thriving mindset, but part of her that surviving mindset never

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<v Speaker 1>left my mother and the winning mindset, the builder mindset

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<v Speaker 1>that she blessed that my parents were able to give

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<v Speaker 1>me the optionality I guess to bless me with. When

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<v Speaker 1>I said I guess, meaning they didn't give it to me.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave me the platform, and I would and took

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<v Speaker 1>it for myself because they didn't know how to build.

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<v Speaker 1>That was not how they were built, It wasn't how

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<v Speaker 1>they were oriented. My wife, Shacher would say that all

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<v Speaker 1>behaviors learned behavior. I absolutely believe that. Right if you

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<v Speaker 1>hang around nine broke people, you'll be the tenth. Once again,

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<v Speaker 1>Grandma loved everybody, but all she knew was what she knew,

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<v Speaker 1>so all she could give was the ignorant She had

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of knowledge in the area of financial literacy.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mom decided she needed to save and protect that

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<v Speaker 1>and not she had that information, because you know, ignorance

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<v Speaker 1>was bliss in the household, so Mom gained a habit

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<v Speaker 1>of savings. Mom did not value education, unfortunately, she did

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<v Speaker 1>not see that as a way out for the family,

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<v Speaker 1>and so nobody in the family went to college. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>most girls, and because there were girls, they are women. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>they were live in a chauvinistic world even to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>and back then, expectations were not high for women, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly not black women. Thank god, things have changed,

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<v Speaker 1>and so most of my aunties and my uncle they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go to higher education and they were smart ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>They just were not encouraged to finish high school. And

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<v Speaker 1>my mother didn't finish high school. She worked, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when she went back to high school at age sixty

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<v Speaker 1>two and marched in. I mean, this was amazing. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know my mother was in school. She was going

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<v Speaker 1>to work, and she was in school part time after work.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't know it until one day I was asked,

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<v Speaker 1>did I want to go to her graduation? And like

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<v Speaker 1>graduation from what? Graduated from high school? And she marched

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<v Speaker 1>with cap and gown on with eighteen year olds who

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<v Speaker 1>were graduating in high school. This was when we were

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<v Speaker 1>in California. I couldn't be more proud of my mother

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<v Speaker 1>then and now, I mean, just an extraordinary woman. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember you know how much courage and how much

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<v Speaker 1>confidence and self belief and self esteem and individuality it

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<v Speaker 1>takes to go back to high school and to finish,

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<v Speaker 1>and to not be ashamed but be proud of marching

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<v Speaker 1>with eighteen year olds as a sixty two year old.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you meagine the ridicule and the cutting of the

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<v Speaker 1>eyes that some people must have had about my mother

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<v Speaker 1>when she was going through that process. She didn't care

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<v Speaker 1>right there was an eagle surrounded by buzzes and turkeys.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother was an amazing individual, and she graduated and

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<v Speaker 1>I got to find that high school diploma and put

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<v Speaker 1>it up on the wall. She graduated, and then at

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<v Speaker 1>Boying Aircraft a mcdonnald Douglas, she would sometimes get laid

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<v Speaker 1>off because contracts with the government would not get renewed,

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<v Speaker 1>or there was some issue with the federal government having

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<v Speaker 1>the budget not be approved or whatever, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>would not fire my mother. They'd lay her off until

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<v Speaker 1>new business came. At the aircraft manufacturing company that she

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<v Speaker 1>worked at as a centric, she was a fabricator. She

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<v Speaker 1>fabricated interiors of airplanes, which then led to a side

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<v Speaker 1>hustle by the way of her making handicrafts which she

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<v Speaker 1>made with her hand in a sewing machine or with

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<v Speaker 1>needles and crocheting. Things get more low cost and high quality,

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<v Speaker 1>and she would sell those handicrafts, not after work. She'd

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<v Speaker 1>do it boldly at work at lunch on brakes, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she'd make food and she'd sell that. And she

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<v Speaker 1>would ride a bicycle around the plant in Long Beach

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald DOA's aircraft and she would market her wares, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I got, you know, some of my early

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<v Speaker 1>hustle from is looking at my mother and she makes

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<v Speaker 1>sure her nine to five financerr five to nine. She

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<v Speaker 1>had a part time hustle for the entirety of her

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<v Speaker 1>working life. And when that and the supervisors couldn't fire

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<v Speaker 1>her because the supervisors were often buying product from her

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<v Speaker 1>right so they could not they could not fire her.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to tolerate and even support her because they

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<v Speaker 1>were buying food and the handicraft. And my mother would

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<v Speaker 1>would go in ap proachas terry cloth towels from the

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<v Speaker 1>handicraft store, and she would turn those towels, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>towels that we wash our bodies off with, our drying

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<v Speaker 1>bodies off with when we come out of the shower

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<v Speaker 1>or out of the bath. She create bathrobes out of

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<v Speaker 1>that custom bathrobes made out of towels, and she had

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<v Speaker 1>different designs and different approaches. In fact, it was so

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<v Speaker 1>successful that Walmart is so odd that I'm being the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of Walmart. Are good friends today and I coach

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<v Speaker 1>here financial literacy for all with him today at Operation Hope.

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<v Speaker 1>But back in the day, my mother's products were so well,

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<v Speaker 1>were so good that Walmart offered to purchase her products

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<v Speaker 1>and put them in their stores. They wanted to put

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<v Speaker 1>them in testament a Walmart store in I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was comped in our Long Beach. My mother said that

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<v Speaker 1>one financial literacy mistake she made was they offered her

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<v Speaker 1>one percent of sales, and she said, that's ridiculous. Why

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<v Speaker 1>would I make anything for one percent? And she really

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<v Speaker 1>today that she passed up a gold mine because one

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<v Speaker 1>percent of whatever sales might have been at what we

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<v Speaker 1>now know to be or what was even then Walmart,

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a pretty big number. She learned then

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<v Speaker 1>that she'd rather have ten percent of something than one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent of nothing. But that was a lesson she

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<v Speaker 1>learned later in life. So when she got laid off

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<v Speaker 1>at McDonald's Aircraft and couldn't get the it wasn't getting

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<v Speaker 1>an hourly wage, and couldn't then have her side hustle there,

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<v Speaker 1>she brought her side hustle home. But she also didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go on welfare, no different than when she

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<v Speaker 1>was a child and there was no SOI security, It

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<v Speaker 1>was no welfare, whether welfare. They barely didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go on it. State assistance. Her grandmother didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go on it, and she always wanted to do for herself.

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<v Speaker 1>He's self reliant. The James Brown version of affirmative action

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<v Speaker 1>opened the door. I'll get it my dangself, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>so she would just go find the job in wherever

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<v Speaker 1>I was and irritate the heck out of me. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was at, of course school, I was at Colin

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<v Speaker 1>Peakelly Elementary School, El Segondo. It was actually El Segondo,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, and it was renamed Colin Peakelly Elementary School,

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<v Speaker 1>if I got that correct. In Conflin, California, and she had

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<v Speaker 1>time on her hands. So she went and befriended the principal,

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<v Speaker 1>a low relationship. Capital became friends with the principal, and

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<v Speaker 1>initially she became the janitor. Yes, my dignified mother, who

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<v Speaker 1>worked as a as a trained seamstress at fabricating interiors

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<v Speaker 1>of commercial airplanes at a major airplane manufacturer when laid off,

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<v Speaker 1>went and became a janitor at my elementary school so

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<v Speaker 1>she could keep an eye on me. Of course, it

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<v Speaker 1>drove me nuts the lines. I gonna want it with

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<v Speaker 1>my mother around me all day and all night. But

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<v Speaker 1>my mother was in the fight. She's like, I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the fight to say my kid's life. That's just there's no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not negotiable. She was all in, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter what I wanted. In fact, that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>learned that I tell parents today, you should whether your

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<v Speaker 1>kids respect you and learn to like you, then like

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<v Speaker 1>you and never respect you. My mother wanted me to

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<v Speaker 1>like her, but it didn't matter right. She was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to respect me. And so she was a

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<v Speaker 1>janitor and that job ran its course. She was called

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<v Speaker 1>back to mc donalds Aircraft as a seamstress, so another contract.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she's relaid off again and she became a security

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<v Speaker 1>guard at my school. I think she was three different

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<v Speaker 1>jobs she took at my school to stay close to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had many problems growing up, but self esteem

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<v Speaker 1>was not one of them. I learned early on there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of love, you know, in the word no.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother would tell me no when it was appropriate,

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<v Speaker 1>but she also made sure I had high self esteem,

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<v Speaker 1>so I now know. Also there's a difference between being

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<v Speaker 1>broken being poor, being broken as economic but being poor

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<v Speaker 1>as a disabling frame of mind. A depressied edition of

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<v Speaker 1>your spirit and you must vow never ever ever to

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<v Speaker 1>be poor again. I still use this quote, that operation Hope,

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<v Speaker 1>and it resonates with people. It probably resonates with you

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<v Speaker 1>as you're listening to this now. It's so common sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Operation Shope is a radical movement of common sense. But

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<v Speaker 1>I got that common sense from my mother. Because common

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<v Speaker 1>sense is not so common, it has to be taught.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she taught me to, you know, love myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and that became the real wealth we had because we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have financial resources, so we had to have inner resources, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went to go on to sell mail order

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<v Speaker 1>Stacey Adams shoes and mail order jewelry and things like

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<v Speaker 1>that to my teachers and the principal at school in

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<v Speaker 1>part because of that self esteem and confidence that my

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<v Speaker 1>mother generated in me, and through her the relationship capital

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<v Speaker 1>I had with the personnel of the school, and I

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<v Speaker 1>leveraged that to get paid right. And I thank my

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<v Speaker 1>mother for that. I mean, there's so many other lessons

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<v Speaker 1>I got. I remember, Uh, there was a law pass

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<v Speaker 1>where you couldn't you couldn't beat your kids, and you

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<v Speaker 1>could spank your kids, but you couldn't beat them. And

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<v Speaker 1>child a piece of course. Uh, but it was a

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<v Speaker 1>broadly defined rule. And you know, teachers could spank you

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<v Speaker 1>with a ruler back in my day, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>they got out of law as well. So I came

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<v Speaker 1>home one day and I'd done something wrong and my

0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:35.840
<v Speaker 1>mother wanted to spain me. She wanted to go get

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<v Speaker 1>a switch you off the branch from the tree in

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<v Speaker 1>the back. I'm like, oh, no, you can't spank me.

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<v Speaker 1>That day is over, lost change. I'm free. And my

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<v Speaker 1>mother's like, oh you're free, right, I can't. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>spank you. No, no, no, you go to jail. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>call the police, argle my mother. My mother said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's cool. Tell you what. Here's the phone I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to call. Pick up the phone down. I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to call the folks with the red light on

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<v Speaker 1>me the police and call the folks then with the

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<v Speaker 1>blue light for you. That's the more. Because I brought

0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.080
<v Speaker 1>you in this world, I damn sure can take you out. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I respected my mother, an I was afraid.

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<v Speaker 1>I was slightly afraid of her right. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>important because in my neighborhood, in the hood or d

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<v Speaker 1>hood d I d a hyphen h O d The

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<v Speaker 1>street behind me was so dangerous that if you went

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<v Speaker 1>on that street, you may not make it back. Like

0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.800
<v Speaker 1>my neighborhood, it wasn't you know, getting home, going to

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<v Speaker 1>school and getting home was not a foregone conclusion. Like

0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.040
<v Speaker 1>you you might get murdered. You certainly could have got jumped.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was jumped several times so my mother. And

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<v Speaker 1>my mother wasn't wasn't at home during the day, she

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<v Speaker 1>was at work, so I had to fear her, and

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I remember one day my mother was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>expect me again, and I said, I'm gonna call my daddy.

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<v Speaker 1>And they had divorced, of course, and she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna call your daddy, and she got a switch

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<v Speaker 1>from the back. She's like, no, this was a built.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually he ain't every word with a lick or from

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<v Speaker 1>the built. He ain't paid child support in all these years.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to. I mean, she she's made me up

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<v Speaker 1>one side and down the other. I never made that

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<v Speaker 1>mistake again. Uh. It was actually good discipline. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we today you have too many people raising their daughters

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<v Speaker 1>and loving their sons, right you you got to you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta raise a young black man differently and he needs love,

0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.040
<v Speaker 1>but he needs discipline straight up. He needs me to

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<v Speaker 1>know what the boundaries are, and he needs to know

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<v Speaker 1>the word no, and that discipline may need may have

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<v Speaker 1>an exclamation mark in an underline next to it. And

0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I needed everything my mom and dad gave me. I

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<v Speaker 1>am who I am because of what they put into me.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's too many UH parents today who want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the best friend of their children, and the children

0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:01.679
<v Speaker 1>are buck wile, they're crazy off the chain. They have

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<v Speaker 1>no discipline, no respect. And if I don't like me,

0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna like you. If I don't respect me,

0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.280
<v Speaker 1>don't expect me to respect you. If I don't love me,

0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a clue how I love you. And

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't have a purpose of my life, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>make your life a living hell. My mother sold all

0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.280
<v Speaker 1>of that. With all these life lessons, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>pour it into you. Now. Let's fast forward. My mother

0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:36.639
<v Speaker 1>married a man who abused her, and the number of

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<v Speaker 1>calls are divorced by the way. It's money. Know of

0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.159
<v Speaker 1>the reason why I police respond to calls and the

0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:44.960
<v Speaker 1>household is domestic abuse, and then number one calls her

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<v Speaker 1>domestic abuse. It's money. Number one reason for heart attacks,

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<v Speaker 1>says you know, American heart association is stress. Number one

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<v Speaker 1>reason for stress. It's money. So my mother married the

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<v Speaker 1>this man. They had two children, my brother and my sister. Together,

0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:08.520
<v Speaker 1>they were stressed about money. Their alphloks, either their inflows

0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.160
<v Speaker 1>or their overheall was bound to be their downfall. And

0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.280
<v Speaker 1>he took it out of my mother. And so domestic

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<v Speaker 1>abuse going on in the household, and he hit her

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<v Speaker 1>and tried to humiliate her, and she kept saving a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit on the side for herself and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure ot how she gonna get out of that situation. Ladies,

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<v Speaker 1>in any of this sound familiar, by the way, why

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<v Speaker 1>does a woman stay with an abuse of me? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just real talk, like why is a woman

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<v Speaker 1>on a stripper pole at three in the morning with

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<v Speaker 1>some three hundred pound guy throwing cash at her because

0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.560
<v Speaker 1>she likes it? Because she likes it because she's attracted

0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.920
<v Speaker 1>to this dude. Of course not it's economics. It's money, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So just real talk here. Financial literacy and the need

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.080
<v Speaker 1>for it is everywhere. It is. It's entirely possible that

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<v Speaker 1>the only true freedom is financial freedom. And I want

0:20:57.520 --> 0:20:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you to be free. My mother, God rest her soul,

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<v Speaker 1>who passed on the glory September tenth, twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>So this episode is dedicated to her. She wanted you

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<v Speaker 1>to be free. Her credit score was eight fifty when

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<v Speaker 1>she was still in the workforce, and it was over

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred after she retired several years later. She wasn't

0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:20.399
<v Speaker 1>doing financial transactions anymore, but she understood that she wasn't black,

0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.680
<v Speaker 1>she was green, economic right, she was free. She could

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<v Speaker 1>do what she wanted. When she put her sub security

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<v Speaker 1>number in the computer whenever she was applying for the

0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:33.840
<v Speaker 1>computer to look at it and see what color she was,

0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the computer realized that her credit score was extraordinary, outstanding

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<v Speaker 1>and above average and just said, yes, whatever it is

0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.280
<v Speaker 1>she wanted. So she ever, later in her life, she

0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:45.320
<v Speaker 1>got credit access to whatever she wanted because she knew

0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 1>better and could do better, unlike grandmother. Her mother back

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<v Speaker 1>to the story, So, I want you to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>rainbows only follow storms, which understand that you can't grow

0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:02.440
<v Speaker 1>except through legitimate suffering. Should understand that people don't change

0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:06.160
<v Speaker 1>in good times. Why would you, right, you only change

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.399
<v Speaker 1>in bad times. And so my mother had bad times.

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<v Speaker 1>She realized that this was not working for her, this

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<v Speaker 1>being the situation with her mother, even though her mother

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<v Speaker 1>loved her. Right, And there'll be people who love you,

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<v Speaker 1>who say they love you, who don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>love you, don't know how to live a successful life,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going to need to be bilingual love them

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<v Speaker 1>and do something else, do something different to argue with

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<v Speaker 1>the fool cruiser are too So I want you getting

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 1>in stupid arguments with people because they say they love you.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to accept what they have to give

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<v Speaker 1>that's beneficial to you, and then make a move that's

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<v Speaker 1>different for your life and the situations that require a

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<v Speaker 1>different set of choices and frankly intellect right, a software upgrade.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother was able to get this software upgrade initially

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 1>on her own, and then she was with again my

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:03.960
<v Speaker 1>brothers sister's father. I won't mention his name because it's

0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 1>not positive what I'm saying here, and I wanted to.

0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to jam up his legacy, but I

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't like to beat my mother. Hello. So my mother

0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 1>had one last insult too many, and she poured some

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:22.239
<v Speaker 1>hot coffee on home boy. He was sleeping and had

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.199
<v Speaker 1>demanded some coffee, and so I got some coffee for you,

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and he said, I'm gonna kill you, you know, And so

0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>she knew she had to go, and she prayed to God,

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, she said, look, Lord, please just get me,

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>just get me out of here with my children. And

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 1>she had premonition from God. She told me that God

0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>told her that you'll be delivered two thousand miles from here.

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<v Speaker 1>And my father, the guy who became my father, Johnny Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>came through town east Saint Louis and saw a mother

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<v Speaker 1>and went crazy, just fell and initially in loss with

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<v Speaker 1>her and then in love with her and was like

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<v Speaker 1>within a day, like how do I marry you? And

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 1>she said, well, you got to take me and my

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 1>kids if before we can have any kind of conversation.

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 1>And he said that's great. I live in California. Well

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 1>that's about two thousand miles right, almost precisely for where

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 1>my mother was. So my mother's like, okay, this is

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 1>God speaking. And so she got out of town before Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>I say that's his name, my brother and sister's father,

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<v Speaker 1>day before he could find her and do harm to

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:32.360
<v Speaker 1>her self preservation. So she had to go, right, don't

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:34.159
<v Speaker 1>let the perfect become the death of the good, like

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>this was good enough at the stars a line, and

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.199
<v Speaker 1>she was out. My father was in town because he

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 1>was back in the day, if you were successful and prosperous.

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 1>My dad owned a construction of a senior contracting business.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get into his story in a separate podcast episode

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Smith. But he was driving his car to go

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 1>buy a new car in Detroit, Michigan, and he drove

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<v Speaker 1>across the country and was seeing some relatives or some

0:24:58.000 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>friends in Saint Louis, and he was going to the

0:24:59.880 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>d dealership the manufactured by a cart. That's what they

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>did back in the day. I guess the profile, and

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>so versus. Continuing on to Detroit, he met my mother,

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>lost his mind. They turned around, packed up all the clothes,

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:12.679
<v Speaker 1>packed up my brother and my sister, and went back

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>to California. And I was born February sixth, nineteen sixty six,

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 1>at Good Samaritan Hospital in downtown Los Angeles. And they

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:27.360
<v Speaker 1>ultimately bought a home on Santa Barbara Boulevard now it's

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:32.439
<v Speaker 1>called Martin Luther King Boulevard and started to build a life.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was the youngest of three children, and I

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 1>remember up and they had done a great job. They built,

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 1>they bought a home together. Only forty one to forty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of black folks own a home today, by

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the way, compared to seventy five percent of our white counterparts.

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Was the number one way you build wealth in America

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>home ownership. Hello, So they had built a home, started

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>building some wealth. They had built sor I purchased an

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 1>eight unit apartment building across the street, I believe it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were at some point, and by maybe getting

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<v Speaker 1>my math, I think making the chronology here wrong. I

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>think they bought the eight unit apartment building. First lived

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<v Speaker 1>in one unit rented to out that covered the mortgage

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>payment that was subped three hundred dollars a month. Yes,

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 1>they built. They bought it for eighteen thousand dollars. For

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.160
<v Speaker 1>anybody who think in real estate, it's not magical that

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:25.360
<v Speaker 1>private building's worth several million dollars today almost the last

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 1>time I checked, it was six million dollars. That's that

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 1>apartment building is worth. We bought it for eighteen thousand

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>dollars and the rest of the unit rent so it

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>was eight units. So we lived in one unit rented

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>out to to cover the mortgage payment. The rest of

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the units, the five units that were left for profit,

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.199
<v Speaker 1>and they used that profit, saved that extra money to

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>then put a down payment on their home, the home

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about on Santa Barbara Boulevard. And by the way,

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 1>we lost the apartment building. I'll get to that in

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 1>a minute. And I say we lost because that's generational

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 1>wealth for our family. It wasn't just my mom and

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 1>my dad. It wasn't just my dad. They my dad

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize that they had to be better together, a

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.239
<v Speaker 1>pastor Andrew Young, my dad was a great hustler, by

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the way, a great hustler. But there's a difference between

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>making money and building wealth. At the end of that.

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>In a separate podcast, we're really focused on that. But

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of black strivers, we think that making

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that money, getting that dollar, getting that cash, getting that buck,

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>getting that bag is everything. It's actually not right. You

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>can win the battle and lose the war. And that's

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>exactly what my mother or my father did and wouldn't

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>listen to my mother. So but here's the positive part.

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.439
<v Speaker 1>They were smart enough to buy that apartment building for

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:43.160
<v Speaker 1>eighteen thousand dollars and they did nothing else but buy

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>that and just hold it. The whole family would be

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>set today, more set than ultimately we ended up being

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>with my mother by at least six times more set

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.360
<v Speaker 1>that my mother ended up being technically a millionaire when

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>she passed on, But that one apartment building again would

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>be worth six million dollars today. We only own eighteen

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars when we purchased it, when they purchased it.

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.399
<v Speaker 1>And when you buy a piece of real estate, you

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>get the benefit of the depreciation at tax benefits. You

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>get the benefit of the appreciation the equity, and you

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>write off the most of the mortgage payments against your income.

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>So it was really win win win anyway. So we

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>moved from the apartment building, owned it, then woved, got

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 1>a house, great good job. Then we bought a gas

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>station at I believe it's at Norman Dy and Vernon

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>South East corner. For those who know Los Angeles geography,

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>you know that that gas station is still there today.

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Last time I was in LA it was still there

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>and functioning. We owned that gas station. We own a

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>cement contracting business. We owned a little nursery business taken

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>care of knucklehead kids like me. Before and after school,

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>and dad ought really argued over money because my dad

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>can make it but couldn't keep as I mentioned earlier,

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and he was a great hustler, but he was not

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>financially literate. And Basil Young says the men and women

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>failed for three reasons arrogainst pride, and greed. My dad

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>was not greedy, but he was full of pride and

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>slightly arrogant. And he wouldn't ask my mother for advice.

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>And only in a relationship do I think that the

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>math should not work? Like I love math, I quote

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>my friend Melody Hobson. I love math because it doesn't

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 1>have an opinion right, But only in a relationship should

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the math not work two plus two if it doesn't

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>equal four, sorry equals six, eight or ten meaning more

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>than four? What are you doing right? You can do

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>better all by yourself. If you're not better together, what

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>are you doing right? So Dad and Mom had the

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>building blocks right, but they didn't have the strategy right.

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have the mindset right. They still had a

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>surviving mindset. They didn't together move to a thriving mindset. Again,

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>my mother finally got to thriving mindset. We're not there yet,

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately they thought they were builders, but they still

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>had a surviving, hustling mindset and approach, and so ended

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.719
<v Speaker 1>up winning the battle and losing the war. Crossing bridges

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>ahead of time, picking up a stepping over a dollar

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>to pick up a dime. What do I mean by that?

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 1>They argued over money. Dad wouldn't listen to mother. He

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>would bid jobs of the scene seement contractor. He wanted

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to win the bid. I respect the hustle, but again

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>not financially literate. So the job was the last contract

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>to bid with the client for one thousand dollars. My

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>dad would go in and bid at nine hundred. Well,

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the materials might be nine to fifty. My dad didn't

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>think about that. He thought the cash flow is profit wrong.

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>So the more money he made the broker we got.

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>He made a dollar and spend a dollar fifty and

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>we lost everything. We lost the gas station, we lost

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the apartment building, we lost our home, and on the

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>verge of losing our home. My mother again, she was

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a master at savings, remember this going back to the

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:07.959
<v Speaker 1>Grandma story. And she would put the little sea corns

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to the side, and then ladies and gentlemen, get married.

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I want you to trust each other. I want you

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to be in each other's lives. I want you to

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>all that. But understand that you're meeting a business partner

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>here and not just the mate. And when you go

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>to the club and you see the dude, oh he's handsome. Lady, guys,

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you see the lady, Oh she's fine. Don't just ask

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>their name, ask their credit score. Right, And I'm joking,

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>but I'm serious, right, because this is a business partner

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of your life. So you want to

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.959
<v Speaker 1>have a joint account, right, and you want to have

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>a separate account to make sure that you know, if

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you find out this person is actually not financially literate,

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>they tear their own reery and they're not tearing yours,

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:49.959
<v Speaker 1>the collective of yours. At the same time, you need

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>to have the backup plan for your family. So my

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>mother had a separate little account that she had set up,

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and she wasn't hiding from my father. My father knew

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>it was there, and she had saved one thousand dollars,

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>which was a lot of money back then. This is

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty eight. Now, this was nineteen seventy. I was four,

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>four or five years old, between three and five years old,

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I get the math right, So sometime between sixty I

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>was born in sixty six, sixty eight, sixty nine, seventy

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>seventy one, that time period, anyway, four thousand dollars a

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of money. My mother had saved this four thousand

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>dollars to send my brother to a college of his

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>choice because she wanted him to move from a surviving

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>mindset to a thriving mindset. Right, a thriving mindset, sost

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>surviving mindset is free. Your first reconstruction, free slavery. Out

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>of slavery, you're free. Second reconstruction, civil rights movement, getting

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 1>access to jobs, access to careers, access to education, access

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to the polling booth, access to you know, public facilities,

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>restrooms of your choice, all that stuff being able to

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>have access. Of course, third reconstruction, which is we're in today.

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 1>That operation shop is helping the lead as a movie,

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>from the streets to the suites, from civil rights to

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>silver rights. Right, the third reconstruction. The color's not black

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>or white, it's green. It's not red or blue, it's green.

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>It's economicist opportunity for all. It's about writing checks. Not

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>just cashing them. So we're in the second reconstruction. Now

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.479
<v Speaker 1>we're in the sixties and the seventies, and my mother

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>knew that for my brother to do better, he needed

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>a higher education. And you know better, you do better.

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 1>And to give you a little bit of inspiration, I

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>had a ged degree, which Chris Rock calls a good

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>enough diploma. Now I've got honorary doctor degrees from several

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>universities and colleges, and I'm on the bord of Clark

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Atland University, and most people who work for me have

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a college degree. I think actually everybody w works for

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>me as a college degree advanced degree. So I'm obsessed

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>with education. Around my library right now, it's nothing but books.

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I love making smart sexy. Right I think we'll be

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>making dom sex even way too long. We've dumbed down

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and celebrated it, and now we got to make smart

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>sexy again. So my brother was set to go to

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>a college of his choice to be whoever he wanted.

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>My father got to the bank first and took that

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>four thousand dollars. Unfortunately, my mother had him as a

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 1>signer on the account. So you might want to have

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>until you guys, in bed until you embed yourself into

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, going through what about me to about week.

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>It may take up a minute for you guys to

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 1>come together as one and you trust each other, not

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>just romantically, but about money and business decisions, and you're

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>on the same accord. You might want to have an

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>account just your own name on it, and then he

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 1>has an account, or she has an account with their

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:39.800
<v Speaker 1>name on it, and then you have a joint account

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>until things evolve. So I'll do a whole podcast on marriage,

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>so don't don't in the history of marriage and all

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 1>that stuff, So don't worry about that. So he got

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the money and wasted it on some hair brain idea.

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 1>He had to get a bag, my dad did, and

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 1>of course he lost it like my grandmother lost it,

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>because they were both financially literate, good people, but financially literate,

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and my brother could not go to a college of

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>his choice, and it broke my mother's heart and the

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>first thing she was my time. My brother ended up

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:17.360
<v Speaker 1>going to the Navy, and he went to the Navy

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>because he could get a four year education to be

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>signed up for military service. He thought he signed over

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>for four years. Of course, it's like they know the

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>psychology in the military. Once you're there, you probably stayed there.

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>You had a good experience. So he signed her for

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>four years, resigned up, resigned up, and had a career

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 1>of the Navy, became a noncommissioned officer, a great career

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>in intelligence there, and ended up retiring to Hawaii, marry

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>somebody who lives in Hawaii. It works for retired from

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:47.359
<v Speaker 1>the Navy, works for the Navy as a private contractor

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>with his family. And it's a beautiful story, but it

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't his choice. His whole story is defined by that

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 1>four thousand dollars moment where he did not have self determination. Right,

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>But what would his life be? How to be different

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>if he had gone to college of a choice and

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 1>become a dentist or a doctor, or a banker or

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a business person or an engineer or whatever. Right, you know,

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>what does a matter what he was? But it could

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>have been his choice and he and he just didn't

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>do that. And as a result of that, Uh, well,

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I just told you the story. Right, he's a great,

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>great life, but it wasn't his choice. And that was enough.

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 1>My mother had had enough and my mother said him

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>out and uh and that became the fight of all

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>fights and my dad they had domestic abuse came to blows.

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:36.839
<v Speaker 1>They had to call the police to get my mother,

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>my dad off, my off, my mother beating her up,

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>and she put off a pump, a three inch pump

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>popped him on the head. Here didn't grow on the

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 1>top of his head until his last dying days from

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that pop. So he learned how to do that with

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>my mother again. But uh, she she was out, you

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>know that she left. We left with the shirt or

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>her back and her kids and we went to go

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to say with somebody, she said, with my uncle O

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:06.919
<v Speaker 1>c h. Was really her girlfriend and her boyfriend whose

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>name was OC. But it order made me feel comfortable,

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>make the kids feel comfortable, she said. It was that

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>that was my uncle and I was playing on the

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and she was staying there with her girlfriend and her

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend to save money for her by her first house

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>on her own. Again, here's that same lesson again, the basics,

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, spending lesson you make, putting a little side

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>for the future. So she's working as a seatrist now

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>in McDonald bill's aircraft which she later became boeing and

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 1>making you know, equivalent of today, of fifteen dollars eighteen

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>dollars an hour. And she worked work, work safe, safe, save.

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>And while she was doing that, I built a relationship

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>with the guy oc who again thought was my uncle.

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>And I I was playing on the porch one day

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 1>and I fell and I was swallowing my tongue. I

0:37:55.840 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 1>was choking, and he cleared. He cleared my throat, you know,

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>he cleared my throat passage and saved my life. I

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. So I

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<v Speaker 1>adored this guy right, and he got murdered in front

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<v Speaker 1>of me in order to take care of his family

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<v Speaker 1>and all and and and are staying with him. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a conversation with us saying, hey, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford to have you guys stay with me. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this again bas Young's quote. Men and when failed

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<v Speaker 1>for three reasons arrogance, pride, and greed. He could have

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<v Speaker 1>just had a conversation with us. My mother would have

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<v Speaker 1>contributed some money. But he decided he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to work his legit job. Then he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to go out again and he was going to sell

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<v Speaker 1>drugs part time. And it was marijuana was in the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong neighborhood, and those guys shitted very seriously. They followed

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<v Speaker 1>him home. They said, you're in the wrong territory, and

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<v Speaker 1>they drove. They dragged him. They hit him with a

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<v Speaker 1>truck and dragged him. Was on a bicycle. H And

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<v Speaker 1>that was right in front of me, in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the house. And I think they did it because I

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<v Speaker 1>could see him sent a message and they killed him

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<v Speaker 1>right in front of me. And I still had an

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<v Speaker 1>I mention in my head. So I saw my first

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<v Speaker 1>death and that was about money. So the first death

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<v Speaker 1>was the death of our of our parents' net worth,

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<v Speaker 1>family structure, generational well, second first murder was oc getting

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<v Speaker 1>murdered in front of me. All this is about money.

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<v Speaker 1>And my best friend George got murdered over money selling

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<v Speaker 1>drugs with the next door neighbor, Tweet, who we moved into.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother bought our first home one five five oh

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<v Speaker 1>two South Freeley in Compton, California, and she bought that house. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I became friends with George, who was real smarter

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<v Speaker 1>than me, by the way, so intellect alone is not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But George had the wrong role model, wrong mindset and

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<v Speaker 1>got murdered hanging out with tweet. So watch who you

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<v Speaker 1>hang around again. You hang around nine broke people, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be the tenth. Whoever you hang around, whatever you see

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<v Speaker 1>is who you will be. And so I could go

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<v Speaker 1>on and on and on about my mother. But the

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<v Speaker 1>story here is that she she bought that house, we

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<v Speaker 1>lived in it. It was the beginning of her generational wealth.

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<v Speaker 1>She built equity, and then she sold that house, bought

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<v Speaker 1>another house, sold that house, she used the equity to

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<v Speaker 1>buy another house. She did that seven times, and she

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<v Speaker 1>ended up with a net worth of a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that because she gave some money to

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<v Speaker 1>my sister and my brother to buy a home a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times. And of course i'm the manager of

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<v Speaker 1>her estate trusty Veru State, because she had a will.

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<v Speaker 1>I want everybody to have a will when she passed

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<v Speaker 1>on the glory. So hopefully she's an inspiration to you.

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<v Speaker 1>She lives on today, she has a fund in her name,

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<v Speaker 1>her legacy lives and hopefully now you know that even

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a single parent, you can still make it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can work an hourly job and build a net

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<v Speaker 1>worth of a million dollars and live a life of

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<v Speaker 1>dignity and self reliance. You can be free. It is possible.

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<v Speaker 1>The only freedom is financial freedom, because every other freedom

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<v Speaker 1>can be taken away from you. But my mother's story

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<v Speaker 1>is a very simple one. She took a message from

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<v Speaker 1>her grandmother. She loved it, but she did My grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, couldn't do better, and she used that lesson

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of her life to take an hourly

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<v Speaker 1>income and turn it into generational wealth. And she passed

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<v Speaker 1>it on to her kids, or her kids would have

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<v Speaker 1>optionality and choice. And now the three of us are

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<v Speaker 1>living our truth because my mother lived her life not

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<v Speaker 1>only for herself, not just for me, but for week.

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<v Speaker 1>This is John O'Brien and this is how. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>make some money, but you build some wealth and you

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<v Speaker 1>have that dignity inside of you that no one can

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<v Speaker 1>take from you. All right, let's go Money and Wealth

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