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THERÉSA: Welcome back, Hauntos. You can probably already tell, but we're

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THERÉSA: not in our usual digs today. We're in Hudson for

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THERÉSA: my ex friend's wedding. Long story short, but I got

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THERÉSA: invited before I died. Then after some unimportant drama involving

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THERÉSA: going to attend spitefully as our mutual guy friends plus one,

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THERÉSA: and now we're here. I tried to take today off

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THERÉSA: from work, but because of my ironclad eternal podcast contract,

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THERÉSA: I'm multitasking and I had to bring Len as my date.

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LEN: I love weddings.

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THERÉSA: The tuxedo T-shirt wasn't necessary.

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LEN: [MUMBLES]

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THERÉSA: I know, it seems insane to attend a wedding from

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THERÉSA: the flowers are some of the best I've seen, and

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THERÉSA: the venue is stunning, especially this time of year with

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THERÉSA: the foliage. Merlin's having a field day in the woods.

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THERÉSA: But whatever, we're just getting started. There's no way all

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THERÉSA: the bridesmaids are pulling off a yellow floral. Here we go,

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THERÉSA: and yup, that is an awful shade of yellow. Yikes!

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THERÉSA: Okay, Len, keep an eye out for a groomsman, tall

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THERÉSA: like six two, six three, green eyes. Him, him! We

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THERÉSA: He didn't take our breakup well. And whoever's been spreading

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THERÉSA: the Ozempic rumors does not seem to be the case.

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THERÉSA: This feels good. I'm so glad we came. The best

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THERÉSA: part of weddings is getting the scoop on everyone you

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THERÉSA: knew in college. The friends you make in those four

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THERÉSA: years really do last a lifetime, or in my case,

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THERÉSA: even longer. And I was bounced out of USC after

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THERÉSA: only three semesters during that college admission scandal. Obviously, I

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THERÉSA: was never on the junior bobsled team. I grew up

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THERÉSA: in Los Angeles. That's on them. But we've all got

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THERÉSA: our demons, like Kat and her college friends, whose demons

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THERÉSA: were yeah, literal.

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KAT: I've never felt anything like that previously, and I've never

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KAT: felt anything like that after the fact. Just all of

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KAT: the worst feelings you can put into one. Instant fear, dread,

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KAT: darkness just consumed me. I screamed bloody murder and ran

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KAT: down the stairs, out of the house and down the block.

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KAT: My name's Kat and in college I lived in a

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KAT: really haunted house in Savannah, Georgia.

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KAT: Stacy was my best friend at the time. The two

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KAT: of us were really really close. Our families lived pretty

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KAT: close to each other in Manhattan Beach, LA Area. My

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KAT: freshman year of college, I moved into this house down

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KAT: in Savannah, Georgia. We show up at the house and

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KAT: it's me and Stacy. We had driven together from California.

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KAT: At the time, Savannah was known as the most haunted

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KAT: city in America. But I didn't really have any expectation

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KAT: to see any of that. I'm going to art school.

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KAT: I'm not even worried or bothered by any of the history.

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KAT: I don't even know if I really believed in ghosts

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KAT: per se. The first thing that our landlord said to

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KAT: and laughing about it, Like, yeah, I don't know. It's

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KAT: an old, historic Victorian house. It feels haunted, but who knows.

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KAT: But we didn't really believe it. The house is two

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KAT: stories and it has two beautiful old bay windows, and

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KAT: then it's got a red porch, a little porch swing.

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KAT: It's got that kind of Victorian roof style, which is

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KAT: like pointy. There's a huge Spanish moss tree right out

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KAT: The windows are covered in ivy and different plants. It

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KAT: I already had been planning that I really wanted to

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KAT: living with three other girls. You guys are all young women,

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KAT: like this stuff happens. Finally, we have a roommate meeting

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KAT: because we're being absolute bitches to each other. We are

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KAT: We're talking about our feelings and kind of discovering that

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KAT: we are all having the same reoccurring nightmare. A man

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THERÉSA: the bride is in a gorgeous strapless drop waist dress.

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THERÉSA: No surprise there. She's always had impeccable taste. The best man,

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THERÉSA: They should have put the witch doctor on the payroll.

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THERÉSA: Who has the time to clean their own home, let

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THERÉSA: Well, the ceremony is over. Turns out bringing Merlin was

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THERÉSA: after the kiss they'd be releasing a dozen white doves? Merlin,

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THERÉSA: Blood splattered everywhere, all over the bride's dress. Needless to say,

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THERÉSA: the pictures are ruined and everyone is a little shaken up,

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THERÉSA: but all in all, not bad for our first Haunting

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THERÉSA: You guys know I love to dish, so if you

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THERÉSA: us at HauntingThePodcast@gmail.com. And of course, if you've ever had

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THERÉSA: to salt a demonic entity out of your home like

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THERÉSA: Kat did, we'd love to hear about that too. I'm

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THERÉSA: going to see what world of drama is going on

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THERÉSA: in the ladies room and don't let Len have any

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THERÉSA: more Champagne. He's a lightweight.

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