1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: Oh, there are a lot of people in Los Angeles 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: doing the following this morning. That was a long game, 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 2: late night, six hours, thirty nine minutes. One of the 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: greatest World Series games that maybe you didn't see. That's 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: one of those where you go, I'm going to be 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: watching Sports Center in the morning and one of the 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 2: great home runs of all time that I don't know 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: how many people got to see Freddie Freeman go deep 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: to win that game last night. So the Dodgers beat 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays on Freddie Freeman's home run in the 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: eighteenth as they lead two games to one. Can we 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: play what it sounded like? 15 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: Marvin? Do we have the call on Am five seventy, 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: Little delivers Freeman. 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: It's on high in the air, straightaway center field, carcel petal. 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 4: Walk Freddie Freeman, mister World Series hens the marathon at midnight. 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: Freddie Freeman is one of four players with multiple walk 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: off home runs in the postseason, so David Ortiz, Bernie Williams, 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: in Carlos Correa, but Freddie is the only player in 22 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: baseball history with multiple walkoff home runs in the World Series. 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: Shoho Tani oh, by the way, had two home runs, 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: two doubles. They also walked him five times, four intentionally. 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: And that's one of those moments where, and we were 26 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: talking about this earlier this morning, we're actually watching the 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: greatest baseball player of all time. We're watching him in 28 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: real time. It's happening right now. It's not one of 29 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: those Hey, you should have seen that guy play. He's 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: the greatest baseball player of all time. Babe Ruth did something, 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: but he didn't do it together. He didn't do a combination. 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he couldn't have done it, but he 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: didn't do it. He was a great pitcher, best pitcher 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: in the game, and then all of a sudden decided 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: to be the greatest hitter. Show hey Otani with what 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: he and he pitches tonight. So you're going to have 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: that performance where you walk him four times. And I 38 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: talked about this when the series started. If you don't 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: have left handed pitching against the Dodgers, you're in trouble 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: because you don't have you got Freddie Freeman and show 41 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: Hey Otani, and if you don't have somebody that you 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: can bring in and go, I can get that guy 43 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: out they've gotten to the point where he's getting Bond's treatment, 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: and I want you to pitch in shame. If you're 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: going to intentionally walk him, I want you to throw 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: the four pitches that look silly because you don't want 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: to face him. I don't want it to be I 48 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: had we're going to walk him and I point him 49 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: to first base. Nope, I want you to pitch in shame. 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: I want you to acknowledge that you can't get him out, 51 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 2: and you throw those four pitches. But I mean one 52 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 2: of the home runs, I went, oh, what are we doing? 53 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: What do you how could you possibly put it anywhere 54 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: near that? And they did, and I'm thinking, oh my goodness, 55 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: so oh Tani made him pay. Freddie Freeman made him pay. 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: There was one nervous moment there when Clayton Kershaw was 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: in with the bases loaded. 58 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 3: Oh. 59 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: I just was like, just get the out, go, sit down, 60 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: don't pitch anymore, and maybe you win the World Series. 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: But they would cut away to his wife, Oh, you 62 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: talk about the ebb and flow, the highs and lows, 63 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: and you rarely think about when you're the family is 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: there watching this, Oh, just get off the mount that's 65 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: all I could think of. But watching that last night, 66 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: or at least as long as I could, you're watching 67 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: the best player in baseball history. 68 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: Now. 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: I know people are going to say, well, what about 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Babe Ruth. Babe was a better hitter. But what he 71 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: is doing at the same time, and imagine, just imagine 72 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: if he goes out there tonight and pitches at five 73 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: or six innings quality baseball and everybody emptied their bullpen, 74 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: like this is one of those losses that's not just 75 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: one loss. You used your bullpen. You realize you can't 76 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: pitch to Otani, and all of a sudden you're gonna 77 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: face him on the mound. That was monumental I think 78 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: last night. But up two games to one, I know 79 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: it's only one game. All it takes is, you know, 80 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: a couple of breaks going your way, but that one, 81 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: that one's stinging, and you got to turn around and 82 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: go back out there and play again tonight, and then 83 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: the next game is on Wednesday. So these pitching staffs 84 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: are really going to be taxed. But that's where if 85 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: you get Yamamoto who gives you a complete game, if 86 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: Otani can give you five or six innings here, you 87 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: have an incredible advantage here, all right, see let's pull 88 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: question for hour one. 89 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, when you look at his at bats 90 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 5: last night, Show Heyotani, he had a double, a home run, 91 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 5: a double, a home run. He was then intentionally walked 92 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 5: f war straight times and then walk the fifth time. 93 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: That's a hell of a night. 94 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're talking about let me see. So he 95 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: walked five times, four intentionally, reach based nine times nine 96 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: times in the game, the only player to be walked 97 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: intentionally four times in a postseason game since they started 98 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: tracking this in nineteen fifty five. 99 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: It's fight. 100 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 5: Paul is just saying, if you took that series of 101 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 5: at bats from show Hey Tony, just from last night, 102 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 5: that's good enough to win a World Series MVP for 103 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 5: the whole series. 104 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: So week, the whole thing. 105 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 3: If you had two doubles and two home runs, well. 106 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: He won the National League the NLCS MVP based off 107 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: one game, and he might win this MVP wait based 108 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: off one game. 109 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 110 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 111 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio w ap. 112 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 6: Hey Is Cabino and rit from Fox Sports Radio Now, 113 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 6: in addition to hearing us live weekdays from five to 114 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 6: seven pm Eastern two to four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 115 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 6: we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for 116 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 6: the show. 117 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: Yep, that's right. 118 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 6: You can now watch Covino and Rich live on YouTube 119 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 6: every day. All you gotta do search Covino and Rich 120 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 6: FSR on YouTube again, go to YouTube search Covino en 121 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 6: Rich FSR. Check us out on YouTube, subscribe, hit that 122 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 6: thumbs up icon and comment away. 123 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: The Louisiana Governor is Jeff Landry. He told reporters yesterday 124 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: that the LSU athletic director Scott Woodward would not be 125 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: involved in selecting LSU's next football coach, saying he would 126 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: let President Donald Trump do it before Woodward. Okay, a joke, 127 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 2: but still, this is your acting athletic director here. 128 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: Today. 129 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: Of course, fired Brian Kelly. Now you've got a settlement here, 130 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: and Brian Kelly's going to walk away with perhaps fifty 131 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: four million dollars. And well, here is the governor yesterday 132 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: at the press conference. 133 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 7: This is a pattern. 134 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 8: The guy that's here now, I wrote that contract cost 135 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 8: Texas A and M seventy something million dollars right now, 136 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 8: we got a fifty three million dollar liability. We are 137 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 8: not doing that again. And you know what, I believe. 138 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 8: I believe that we're going to find a great coach. 139 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 7: You know, I'm not going to be picking the next coach, 140 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 7: but I can promise you we're going to pick a coach, 141 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 7: and we're going to make sure that that coach is successful, 142 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 7: and we're going to make sure that he's compensated properly, 143 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 7: and we're going to put. 144 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 8: Metrics on it. Because I'm tired of rewarding failure in 145 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 8: this country and then leaving the tax payers, you know, 146 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 8: to foot the bill. Look, my role is about the 147 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 8: fiscal effect of firing a coach under a terrible contract. 148 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So, he criticized Woodward, the athletic director, for gringing 149 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: to a ten year, ninety five million dollar contract with 150 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly. LSU's on the hook for fifty four million dollars. 151 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: Woodward said that the school would quote continue to negotiate 152 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly's separation and will work towards a path for 153 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: that's better for both parties now. The governor then also 154 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: criticized his athletic director for agreeing to a similar one 155 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: sided coaching contract when Texas A and M. He was 156 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: the athletic director when Jimbo Fisher got his contract. We 157 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: have another comment from the governor Marvin Okay. 158 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: Who's no. 159 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 8: I can tell you right now, Skwood is not selecting 160 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 8: the next coach. 161 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 7: Hell, I'll let Donald Trump select it before I'll let 162 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 7: him do it. 163 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 8: I don't know, but the Vorta Superas is going to 164 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 8: come up with a committee and they're going to go 165 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 8: find us a coach. 166 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: That's SEC football right there, that's SEC football. Yeah, you 167 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: got to throw my athletic director under the bus. Yes, ton, 168 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: real quick question. What about the taxes? Another player rate 169 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: in our streets need to be a lot more safe 170 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: and all the kids don't have school books where we 171 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: gonna go. Okay, But in fairness to the governor, this 172 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: was not about the football situation. He was asked football 173 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: questions and then that was at the end of the 174 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: press conference. I don't know what the press conference was about, 175 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: but I know what it became about, because it was about, 176 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: you know, picking your successor to Brian Kelly and doing 177 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: it in a fiscal way. Now, I don't know if 178 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: this means, Hey, how about it not a ten year deal. Hey, 179 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: maybe you don't get that coach because you're going to 180 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: be tied up for ten years, and you should never 181 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: be tied up for ten years with a coach with 182 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: that amount of money. And they this athletic director has 183 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: done it twice with Jimbo Fisher and now Brian Kelly. 184 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: You may not get the guy you want, but you 185 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: might get somebody who is on the precipice of being somebody, 186 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: and maybe you get them at a better price. 187 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: Don't go over five years, don't. 188 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: It in today's In today's college football climate, nobody's staying 189 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: around for ten years, whether they want to leave or 190 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: you want them to leave. Sustainability is so difficult. Now, 191 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm not signing up for ten years with anybody. I'd 192 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: have a pre nup, yeah, Pauling. 193 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 9: So in theory, the governor is agreeing with what you're saying, 194 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 9: and he's going to have a more fiscally conscious contract. 195 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 9: Wherever the next head coach of LSU is, I don't 196 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 9: know if he realizes that's not the current trend in 197 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 9: college football, and no current coach is going to consider 198 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 9: LSU under those conditions. For example, Lane Kiffin, if he 199 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 9: gets a call from LSU and says, we're going to 200 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 9: offer you a six year contract and the buyout is light. 201 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 10: He will not. 202 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 9: Return their calls because Florida will not do that. They'll 203 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 9: would be with the old rules ten years, one hundred 204 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 9: and ten million. 205 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: Even if I give ten years to Lane Kiffin, he's 206 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: not staying there ten years. 207 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 9: But he will never join your football team. 208 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: You know what, at some point, I have to have 209 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 2: some kind of continuity. I have to have where we're 210 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: both in this together. And Brian Kelly was never a 211 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: good fit. 212 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: He wasn't. 213 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: He's a really good coach. He's going to coach someplace. 214 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: He's going to get opportunities. Vegas already has odds of 215 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: where they think he's going to end up. 216 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: He will coach. 217 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: But if you're going to try to even Indiana with 218 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti, I love the story. 219 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 3: He's been successful. I don't want to give you nine years. 220 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to give you five. I'm going to give 221 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: you five. 222 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: Top end dollars. But after that then we go into 223 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: this together. And it's not his age, it's just I 224 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: can't give you ten years. That's an eternity in college 225 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: football now. But the governor's involved in this. And I 226 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: know you got other younger coaches here that would love 227 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: to coach LSU. Maybe you sign him up for five years, 228 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: Maybe you get a friendly contract there. I mean, who 229 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: are the marquee coaches that you have to give a 230 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: ten year deal to? James Franklin. I don't want James Franklin. 231 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: Urban Meyer is not going to show up in the doorstep. 232 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: The only guy that you would ever consider this, or 233 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 2: you might have to consider this, is Lane Kiffen Nick 234 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: Saban's not coming back to LSU. Urban Meyer. The one 235 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: guy is Lane Kiffin. All the other coaches, no, Ryan 236 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: Day is not going to NSU. So who are the 237 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: coaches where you go? 238 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 10: We're go. 239 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: I gotta give him ten years. Kirby Smart's not going down. 240 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: None of these coaches are going there. It's Lane Kiffin. 241 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: That's it. Yeah, Paul, I don't know if you'd look 242 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 3: at it. 243 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 9: There's no reports, but if Dan Landing of Oregon put 244 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 9: himself out there, it would be interesting to see what 245 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 9: he got from Melish. 246 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: Just coach energetic. But you're at Oregon, you're in the 247 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: Big ten. 248 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: You got the financial resources that match Texas. You know, 249 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: you got, you know, the Boosters, Phil Knight, Nike, that atmosphere. Now, 250 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: I know he's an SEC guy, so I guess there's 251 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: always that chance. 252 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 11: Yes, Marmon, what about Dabosweeney. 253 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: He's gonna want He'll want a ten year deal, but 254 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want Dabo Sweeney for ten years 255 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: in today. It's really a ten year guy. But I 256 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: don't want him not in today's college football because it's 257 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: not working at Clemson. Your model is not working at 258 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: Clemson right now. It did, but it's not going to 259 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: it's not sustainable. You're gonna go to LSU. What system 260 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: are you bringing in to LSU? 261 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, Pauline, I could see Sweeney because it's cooled off 262 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 9: at Clemson right now and before you get a chance 263 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 9: to be fired. Remember the old Jimbo Fisher model at 264 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 9: Florida State. I'm cooling off. I'm cooling off. I'm going 265 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 9: to run to A and M and get ten years, 266 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 9: seventy five million. That could be what Dabo does before 267 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 9: someone else tells him he's leaving. 268 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: I hope LSU hires somebody who is, you know, an 269 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: up and coming guy and get that opportunity. But you know, 270 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: maybe you get these guys who go I could swoop 271 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: in and get a big payday here. It feels like 272 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: lane Kiffin's gone. 273 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: It just feels like that. 274 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: And I brought this up about the documentary that I 275 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: saw on the mother Ship, and there's no reason for 276 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: him to leave Oxford given that he's family's there, he's healthy. 277 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: Now there's a lot of positives there what he's doing 278 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: for ole Miss, But I don't know if Lane has 279 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: always got one foot in and one foot out. It 280 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: just feels like that's his personality. Yes, Marv, do you. 281 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 11: Think that the LSU brass would put up with a 282 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 11: lower level, kind of no name head coach, Like we're LSU, 283 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 11: how come we don't have a big time coach? If 284 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 11: they get some guy that came from a smaller school, 285 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 11: did be like who. 286 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: Well Ed Orgeron wasn't a big name coach. Les Miles 287 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: wasn't a big name coach. 288 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: I mean. 289 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: Nick Saban became a big name coach, So I think 290 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: it can be a launching pad. 291 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, Paulie, lane Kiffin does not make quite as much 292 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 9: as some of the other coaches. I think he's I 293 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 9: don't think he's in the top He's the eleventh highest 294 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 9: paid coach in the country as of this year. That 295 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 9: win he had over Oklahoma last week actually triggered a 296 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 9: one year contract extension for him, and that will pay 297 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 9: him nine million. But that's at the back end of 298 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 9: his contract. 299 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: He is, all right, I pump him up two more 300 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: million dollars. Yeah, I put him in eleven million dollars. 301 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: I keep him there. 302 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 303 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 304 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 305 00:15:59,080 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: listen live. 306 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: Charles Barkley, Hall of Famer inside the NBA on ESPN. 307 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: Are you an ESPN employee? Do you get invited to 308 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: the Christmas party? 309 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 10: I don't know. I didn't know they had a Christmas party. 310 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a big one. Now, I don't know. 311 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: You have to go to Bristol, Connecticut Open bar I 312 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: mean it's a big deal. 313 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 12: Well, you know, you know, I was talking to Matt 314 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 12: Barry and Michael Eves. I've actually never been to the 315 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 12: ESPN studio. I want to do that before our relationship started, 316 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 12: and I just got busy playing golf every day this summer. 317 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 12: But it looks amazing on television the campus. So but no, 318 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 12: I haven't got invited to the Christmas party, but I 319 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 12: do want to go see I talked to Matt Barry 320 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 12: and Michael Leaves and my girl al Duncan. At some point, 321 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 12: I want to get to see that studio on an 322 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 12: off day. Not that I want to work or anything. 323 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 12: I just want to go see you. 324 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: Okay, how is your schedule If you go there, they're 325 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: going to put you to work. 326 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 12: Well, that's why I'm gonna go doing the summer. Well, 327 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 12: I can't just it. There's nothing going on except football 328 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 12: every day. I'na make sure there's no basketball or anything 329 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 12: going on. 330 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you go in that building, you're 331 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 2: gonna be on ESPN News or two or NFL Live 332 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: or you know. 333 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 10: I'm brushing up. I'm brushing up in my Spanish so 334 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 10: I can do this. I got to get ready for 335 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 10: I got to get ready for the Super Bowl. 336 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: You guys haven't missed a step though. Seems like you know, 337 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: gang's all back together and now has your approach to 338 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: the NBA changed at all since you're now on ESPN. 339 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 12: No, it's been great, you know, the guys at ESPN, 340 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 12: Dan I said this, and I wasn't kissing anybody, as 341 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 12: you know, I ain't gonna kiss nobody. As that's the 342 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 12: best thing about having mine. I don't have to listen 343 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 12: to anybody. It's an honoring and privilege to work for 344 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 12: ESPN because every kid grew up wanting to be on SPN. 345 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 12: They did, like every kid who's ever touched any type 346 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 12: of ball. If they're being honest, if you go on ESPN, 347 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 12: you feel like you've made it. So it's an honor 348 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 12: to work for him. And we've only did three shows 349 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 12: and they've been great. They left us alone. 350 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 10: You know. 351 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 12: The only thing that sucked about it is in Game 352 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 12: one on NBC, we had a great double overtime game, 353 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 12: which was awesome. Then the next night we had winby 354 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 12: go crazy. We had Steph go crazy for us, and 355 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 12: we didn't even get to talk about that because of 356 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 12: this gambling BS and that was the only downer. But 357 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 12: other than that, it's been fantastic. 358 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 10: Now. 359 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: I know you guys talked a little bit about it, 360 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: But what bothers you the most about this investigation, whether 361 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: it's the poker games or prop bets or you know, 362 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 2: did anything stand out that would would alarm you a 363 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: little bit more. Being a former player now an analyst. 364 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 12: Well, it all alarms me first and foremost. Number one, 365 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 12: if you're rigging poker games, especially some of the guys 366 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 12: are your friends, that's a bad thing. But obviously when 367 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 12: players are out here points shaving basically what it is. 368 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 12: You know, you can come up with prop bets or 369 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 12: gamble out lesson. Man, if you're out here shaving points, 370 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 12: that's just bad. You know, we've all then, we've all 371 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 12: been so blessed to make. We make more money in 372 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 12: one month than most people are gonna make the entire lifetime. 373 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 12: And all you got to do is play basketball. You 374 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 12: we're the luckiest people in the world. I say this 375 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 12: about sports man. I love sports, but we are so 376 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 12: lucky and blessed. We get to do something so stupid 377 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 12: and we make more money. Think about Dan, Most of 378 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 12: us get paid back. Then you get paid twice a month, 379 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 12: and you make more money during that period. And most 380 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 12: people are gonna make in their lifetime the mone of 381 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 12: these guys are making today. And to do something hopefully, 382 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 12: like I said, I'm hoping all these as are not true. 383 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 12: But if you did something that stupid. It's just it's just, 384 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 12: it's just stupid, plain and simple. 385 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: Do you get in these poker games that are held 386 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: outside of a casino. 387 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 10: I'm not a poker guy. First of all. I would 388 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 10: never gamble at somebody house. 389 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, not gonna Charles froze up there, 390 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 3: fear me. Yeah, now, yeah, you froze up again. 391 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't. I don't believe in gambling at people houses. 392 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 12: And I and I I don't go to casino. I 393 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 12: love you know, you know, I gamble a lot, but 394 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 12: I don't play poker. Uh, but no, I don't go 395 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 12: to people house and gamble. Dan and nobody's coming to 396 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 12: my house to gamble either. 397 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: Talking to Charles Barkley NBA on ESPN, almost said, TNT, 398 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: it's been weird. 399 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 10: Ernie. Ernie screwed it. He said, he only did it 400 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 10: one time. 401 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 12: I knew that was gonna happen, but he only did 402 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 12: it one time in three shows, So it's been pretty good. 403 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: If Austin Reeves was the let's say that Luca and 404 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: Lebron weren't on the Lakers and it was Austin Reeves team. 405 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: Are these numbers sustainable for a player like. 406 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 10: That impossible because he could. 407 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 2: Get froze up again. Yeah, he froze up a couple 408 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 2: of times there. All right, let me take a break. 409 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: We'll come back with Charles Barklay after this. When I 410 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: last spoke to you, I asked if Austin Reeves could 411 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 2: he be the number one guy? Could he put up 412 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: these numbers on a team? 413 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 10: No, because they're gonna make adjustments. 414 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 3: He froze up again. 415 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 10: That's crazy, ended Dan. 416 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you're good now. 417 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 12: Yeah, teams are gonna start making adjustments, so his forty 418 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 12: gonna come down to twenty five or more, you know, 419 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 12: because I don't think he's that type of guy who's 420 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 12: gonna get forty a night or like now, he's got 421 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 12: like a triple yellow caution light, can shoot anytime he 422 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 12: wants to. But as teams adjust, they're gonna make adjustments 423 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 12: on him. He's a really good player. But also to 424 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 12: go out there and get for tonight is really hard. 425 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 12: I mean, well, because nobody's ever done it. I mean, 426 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 12: I mean, nobody's ever average forty points in the NBA 427 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 12: other than probably Will Chamberlain back in the day. But 428 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 12: teams are going to make adjustment to make him pass 429 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 12: the ball more, which he's comfortable with. But he's a 430 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 12: hellth of a player. 431 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: Is there any basketball player's future you would trade for 432 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: Victor wimbin Yama's future. 433 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 12: Well, the only question about Victory's health, there's never I mean, 434 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 12: there's never been a question about him playing. It's just 435 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 12: can he stay healthy? You know these guys who have 436 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 12: these very unique bodies. I mean, and he probably got 437 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 12: the most unique body we've ever seen in the NBA 438 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 12: other than Shaquille. Like Shaquille when we me and Kevin 439 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 12: McHale talk about it, when the first time we saw 440 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 12: Shaquille O'Neill, we couldn't believe how big an athletic he was. 441 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 12: He's probably and I met Will but I never got 442 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 12: to see him play. But Shaquille had the most unique 443 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 12: body I've ever seen in the NBA because how big 444 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 12: and strong and fast than he was. But Victor's different 445 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 12: because you look at Minute Bowl, Jeorge Morrison, Mark Eden, 446 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 12: guys who are like seven three seventy four, they didn't 447 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 12: have this type of athletic ability. They couldn't shoot threes 448 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 12: and dribbling things like that. So he's probably the most 449 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 12: unique player we've had in the NBA, and we never 450 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 12: had anything like him. 451 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: If Ralph Samson was playing today, Ralf Samson could be 452 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 2: maybe a Winbin Yama kind of player. 453 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, but Ralf never had to dribbling skills. 454 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: Well, they didn't let him. 455 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 2: Now they're saying to a big guy, we want you 456 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: to handle the ball, shoot the threes. 457 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 10: First of all, No, I forgot to Todd. 458 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 2: Why don't we see if we get Charles just on 459 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: the phone here because I don't No, there you are again, Yeah, 460 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: let me try it one more time and then if not, 461 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: well we'll just we'll try another another day. 462 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 12: So if Reph Sampson played in the NBA today, would 463 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 12: he be compared with the Victor only if he was 464 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 12: able to dribble and shoot threes like Victor does. But 465 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 12: Victor is the most unique player we've had in the 466 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 12: NBA since your Quiel. 467 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: Can you see where Steph Curry would be the second 468 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 2: option on the Warriors a couple of years from now 469 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: that that would extend his career, but he might not 470 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: be the number one guy. 471 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 12: Well, they would have to bring in a big time 472 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 12: free agent. I think right now they're stuck with the team. 473 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 12: They have the only question is Victor Kamingau. 474 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: Is that his name, Victor Kaminga, Jonathan Kaminga. 475 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 10: Jonathan Cominga. Excuse me? 476 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 12: So he's the only he's the wild card because we've 477 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 12: seen how far that team can go with Draymond and 478 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 12: Jeremy Butler their. 479 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 10: First round team. 480 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 12: The only question is can jump the Kaminga take the 481 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 12: next step because in the West, you're gonna have to 482 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 12: be OKC, you're gonna have to be Houston, You're gonna. 483 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 10: Have to beat the joker. 484 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 12: So can he grow enough to get them past the 485 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 12: second round of the playoffs. That's the only question with 486 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 12: the Warriors because Steph is clearly he's on the down 487 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 12: side of his career. You can't expect him to play 488 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 12: like he did that game last week in June. I mean, 489 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 12: that's just physically impossible because everybody's fresh right now, Dan, 490 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 12: everybody's fresh. But you can't expect a thirty seven year 491 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 12: old to go to November, December, January averaging thirty five 492 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 12: points a game. That's just not gonna happen. Man, get 493 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 12: through three or four rounds in the playoffs. 494 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, in his interview with Mike Tariko, was talking 495 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: about load management. Back in the day, you guys took 496 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: great pride in playing every single game. How do you 497 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: think today's player will react to what Michael Jordan said 498 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: about outload management. 499 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 12: Well, first of all, we don't care what they think. Dan, 500 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 12: men and you have discussed loads of manager on this 501 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 12: show for years. It sucks load management. These guys can 502 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 12: play basketball two days in a row. We played basketball 503 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 12: two days in row. They got better equipment. They got 504 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 12: they got better equipment, they got better medicals, they got 505 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 12: cold plunges, they got hyperbaric chambers, they got private planes. Now, 506 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 12: if we can play back to back games and Chuck 507 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 12: Taylor's and things like that, and fly commercial. 508 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 10: I flew commercial my first four years in the NBA. 509 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 12: We didn't have ice plunge, we had ice ice bags, 510 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 12: we didn't have hyperbarrick chambers. So if we can do 511 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 12: that for two million dollars a year, they damn sure 512 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 12: can do it for forty million dollars a year. 513 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 10: And Dan, we said it before. 514 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 12: It's interesting how it took up a life of its 515 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 12: own because it was Michael Jordan. You you asked me 516 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 12: last time. I can't remember. I love doing your show. 517 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 12: First of all, I must love doing your damn show. 518 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 12: You make me get up and damn six o'clock in 519 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 12: the morning, I want to kick you in taz ass. 520 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 12: I just want you to know that it's six o'clock 521 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 12: in the morning. But you asked me what was a 522 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 12: bigger problem in the NBA. All the threes are load management, 523 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 12: and I said to you, quite as load management. It's 524 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 12: sad when Michael says that it's like just turning into 525 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 12: a wildfire. It's been a problem for years, and let 526 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 12: me tell you some Dan, it's going to really be 527 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 12: a problem going forward because we got guys making seventy 528 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 12: million dollars a year, God bless them. That's just on them. 529 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 12: But when we start having guys making eighty ninety one 530 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 12: hundred million dollars a year and they says, yeah, I 531 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 12: played last night, I can't play tomorrow. We can't just 532 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 12: keep crapping on the fans saying that that that's just disrespectful. 533 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 12: Number one is disrespectful to the game, But it's really 534 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 12: disrespectful to the fan. If I saved up all my 535 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 12: money expensive as tickets are, did some of these star 536 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 12: is only gonna come to East Coast, West coast one 537 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 12: time a year, and you're making ninety million dollars and 538 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 12: you can't play basketball two years, two days in a row. 539 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 10: That's one hund wrong. 540 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 541 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 2: I said the same thing. My reaction to Jordan was, 542 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 2: this is obvious. Of course he's going to be against 543 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: load management, and it makes his reputation, you know, stand 544 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: even taller because he didn't take games off. He tried 545 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: to play in every single game, so there wasn't any 546 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: news in this. And you're right if Mike says it, 547 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, load management's a topic again. And 548 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, these guys today don't care. 549 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: They don't care. 550 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: What Michael Jordan says about home. I'm going to play 551 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: every game now because Mike said so well. 552 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 10: And the thing that bothers me, I wish they would 553 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 10: tell the truth. 554 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 12: Uh, instead of just saying you hear people saying well, 555 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 12: it's not healthy or the like that, just say I 556 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 12: want it and listen. 557 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 10: This is a fair thing. 558 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 12: On their point, if I'm able to play basketball two 559 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 12: or three more years, I'm probably gonna make an extra 560 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 12: fifty to one hundred million dollars. 561 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 10: I mean, depending on who you are. 562 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 12: Even if you like, say, if you're a star, who like, 563 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 12: if you play an extra three years, you're gonna make 564 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 12: a minimum of probably one hundred million dollars. Dan, if 565 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 12: you can pay add three years, at the end of 566 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 12: your career, you're probably gonna be making thirty to fifty 567 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 12: sixty million dollars. And I understand that, But just say, hey, 568 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 12: I'm trying to extend my career. Don't just tell don't 569 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 12: try to tell me it's not healthy. I've seen reports 570 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 12: out there saying it's not healthy to play, dude, But 571 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 12: for guys that played basketball back to back their entire life. 572 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, And I understand this because if 573 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: you said to Larry Bird, hey, why don't you do 574 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: load manage? You might be able to extend your career 575 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: three more years. Or I said that to Steve Nash, 576 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, would they do load management if they knew 577 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: I got a chance to play a few more years here? 578 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 10: And I understand that argument. 579 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 12: But what Michael said, Man, these people are only gonna 580 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 12: get to see the great ones every now and then, 581 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 12: Like Michael Jordan car Malone was only gonna come to 582 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 12: Philly one time a year. He's only going to go 583 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 12: to New York one time a year. Magic Johnson's only 584 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 12: coming to Philly one time a year. That's not fair, Like, Yo, 585 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 12: you got to play in New York, you gotta Can 586 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 12: you imagine in the day, if Magic Johnson had a said, Hey, 587 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 12: we played, I'm gonna pick some crap and okay, I 588 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 12: shouldn't say that I know I'm gonna get in trouble. 589 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 12: Can you imagine if Magic Johnson said, we planned, I 590 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 12: played in Brooklyn last night. I'm not gonna play against 591 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 12: the Celtics the next day. Can you can you just 592 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 12: think about how stupid that sounds. I played in Indiana 593 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 12: and I apologize to Brooklyn. Now we played at the 594 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 12: Pacers last night. I'm not gonna play against the Celtics tonight. 595 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 12: Can you can Can you imagine? 596 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 10: Imagine? 597 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: David Stern? 598 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 10: Yeah? 599 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 12: Can you imagine if LARVII Bird said, Hey, we played 600 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 12: the Clippers last night. I'm gonna sit out this Lakers 601 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 12: game tomorrow. Can you imagine how that's stupid that sounds? 602 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: Uh, you won the MVP in nineteen ninety three. Yes, 603 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: if I said you could trade in the MVP but 604 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: the Suns win the championship. 605 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 12: Yeah, I would rather win the championship. But you know, 606 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 12: nobody can take away what I accompassed that year. You 607 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 12: know it's Cam Newton. 608 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: The reason why I bring it up. Cam Newton said 609 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: that he would rather win the NFL NB like he 610 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: wouldn't trade his m VP for a Super Bowl win. 611 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 12: Well, well, we all have our thing, Like I wanted 612 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 12: to win a championship for the people of Phoenix. That 613 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 12: I've said, that's my only regret not winning the championship 614 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 12: in Phoenix, because you know, this is where I live. 615 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 12: These people have always treated me amazing, Like Philip, that's 616 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 12: no disrespect to Philly, but they've already won a championship. 617 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 12: That's my only regret of my career is not winning 618 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 12: a championship for the Phoenix Suns fans. But yo, man, 619 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 12: that year I was the best basketball player in the world. 620 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 10: We had the best record in the world. 621 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 12: I like these That's the one thing that annoys me 622 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 12: about ESP and I'm not gonna lie they are. They 623 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 12: have this stupid argument every year about the MVP, that 624 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 12: Michael should have won more or Lebron should have won more. 625 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 12: It's not who's the best player, it's the person who 626 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 12: had the best year. It's like, because let me use 627 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 12: an analogy, you're trying to tell me. When Magic and 628 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 12: Bird were going back and forth on MVPs, one of 629 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 12: them was better than the other. Notes whoever had the 630 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 12: best regular season. But now guys like to start like 631 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 12: Lebron should have won, Like David Rose was the best 632 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 12: player in the world. That year he won MVP. The 633 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 12: Chicago Bulls had the best record of the Eastern Conference. 634 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 12: The years Karl Malone won the MVP, the Utah Jazz 635 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 12: had the best record in the NBA. 636 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 10: Like Chack. Chack always gets to know that Steve Nash, well. 637 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 12: Steve Nash as good as should kill No, but the 638 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 12: Phoenix Suns had the best record in the NBA both 639 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 12: years he won MVP. I don't think Steve Nash would 640 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 12: Steve when nats to tell you, No, I was not 641 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 12: better than Kobe Bryant, but those two years. 642 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 10: I had a better regular season. It's a regular season award. 643 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: Did you think you were better than Jordan? Not having 644 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: just a better year than Jordan in ninety three, but 645 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: you were better than Jordan. 646 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 12: I did not realize that I was not as good 647 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 12: as Michael Jordan, so I played him in the finals. 648 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 12: Because when I got traded to Phoenix, I told the guys, 649 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 12: we're going to the finals and we're gonna play the Bulls. 650 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 12: That's the first thing I told them when I got 651 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 12: traded the Phoenix, and I said, the only reason, Michael 652 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 12: Jordan I felt like it was just as good, I said, 653 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 12: the only reason he's better. He got Scottie Pippen, Dennis Robin, 654 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 12: Harris Grant, guys like that, Packson, bj He had a 655 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 12: hell of a team, I said, But now I got 656 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 12: Kevin Johnson, Dan Marley said to Bolos Mark West. And 657 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 12: it wasn't until after game two that I realized that 658 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 12: he was better than me because I had fifty he 659 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 12: had fifty five. I told the guys, we're gonna win tonight. 660 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 12: We're gonna win the game tonight, and I did. 661 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 10: I had. 662 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 12: I think I had forty seven, to be exact, but 663 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 12: he had like fifty two. That was the first time 664 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 12: because like even when I played against Magic and Barry, 665 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 12: I was like, I'm just as good as these guys. 666 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 12: But they got James Worthy and Kareem and Barry McHale 667 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 12: in Paris and Dennis Johnson. But I don't think any 668 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 12: great player. Think Karl Malone thinks he's the greatest. I 669 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 12: think Patrick Ewing, I think all you can't be a 670 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 12: great player unless you think you're betting everybody else, because 671 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 12: you have to have supreme confidence. But like then, there's 672 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 12: a lot of guys who are delusional. They're just good. 673 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 12: It's just alright, good player. They think they're bad. 674 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 10: They are. 675 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 12: But there's no great player. There's no Hall of Fame 676 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 12: type player who don't think he's the best player out 677 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 12: there every night. 678 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: Lebron's not out there. You said that he's got an 679 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 2: old guy injury. 680 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 12: He's just old. Everybody gets old. Yeah, he says, a sciatica. 681 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 12: You know what that means. Yeah, I know. It's back hurt. 682 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 12: All old people back hurt. Then all old people back hurt. 683 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 12: You can you can dress it up like a sciatica. 684 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 12: You can come up with all these medical terms. Lebron 685 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 12: is old. 686 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 2: Ah, you froze up again. Thank you, Charles. We'll talk 687 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 2: to you soon, all right, man, have a great one, Okay.